Ottocast Lite C5 | Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for your bike!
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- With Sat Navs slowly declining on bike in favour of using mobile phone and all the apps that come with them, we reviewed the Ottocast Lite C5 Apple CarPlay and Android Auto system which is dedicated to motorbikes…. Great bit of kit!
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Firstly thanks for giving this away in your raffle on 19th, I'm the lucky bugger who won this unit, so thanks, pleased it comes with the cable to connect to battery or ignition as my 30 year old CBR400RR doesn't have USB or any power outlets, the mounting brackets are well engineered and the screen resolution and response time seem really good, I'm currently using it with buds inside the helmet but will consider a different headset to receive the audio if anyone can recommend better. At first it seemed a little strange fitting a flat screen to such an analogue machine but this brings this bike into the 21st century, so cool.
Awesome buddy. Glad your enjoying it. Cardo are the best for Comms that we have found. Also a discount too using code RiderCamTV :)
I have a similar Andriod based GPS. While not Android Auto/Apple Carplay it has the same body and bracket system. Keep an eye on the four screws that hold the GPS to the Ram bracket and be careful when removing the GPS from the cradle. That plastic tab is known to break and then all of the load is on that tiny retaining screw. So when i need to remove the GPS I undo the Ram mount and unplug the screwed connector.
Thanks for the tips :)
For £215 it's well worth it and I would consider this for my F800GT if ever I need to replace my XT. You could always buy one of those Speed Angel anti-glare screen protectors for it also.
Didn’t have an issue with glare or reflection when riding, just when filming
I paid 95£ for mine on Ali 👍
Thanks for review!
Any chance of a link to the Ali shop you used and were there any customs charges?
Not saying this bad, but alternately any Android device around $150 with DMD will work best, with a larger and brighter screen. As you are not limited to Carplay or Android Auto apps. Virtually run anything you want, Rever, Calimoto, Google Maps, Chrome and even Netflix (not suggesting) but yea you could. Most modern devices are IPX6/7/8 waterproof so adding a clear screen jacket will make it rain proof.
Dmd. Doesn't do landscape mode outside of nav . Also no split screen. My phone's brightness is supposedly better. But the bigger icons and lower resolution makes it easier to see ( yes that sounds oxymoronic). Also this touchscreen works way better with gloves than my phone.
@@satur9satur9 I don’t understand. DMD doesn’t stop any of your apps to use the mode it needs to run. DMD in itself is optional as you can choose any launchers to your liking. There is even a Apple TV lookalike called Flaucher with large icons. About the touchscreen I can’t comment since it depends on your device. I don’t mess with my screening while riding so it doesn’t bother me much. Native OS will be hard to beat in terms of functionality. Split screen is not very useful for me given the small form factor of the phone. But all set I can glad the device is convenient for your use.
Hey you! Brought one of these on the back of your presentation! I am mightily chuffed with it.! Ideal for lazy gits. Who just want to go! Brilliant.
The advantage is to have an extra device that saves your rather high priced phone. My ducati would vibrate my optical zoom to death. And if stolen my personal data stays save as well as my lovely phone.
Major issues is if you have your phone (Apple) set up on your Cardo/Sena on BT channel 1 and the CarPlay on Channel 2 it is impossible to answer a call. More of an issue if you ride more than one bike. On warm days it occasionally switches off. The small screw at the back works itself loose with vibration.
It’s a great idea but this unit is not the solution, it’s 85% there but needs a big company just to make it perfect.
I have a different brand of CarPlay unit but I am experiencing the same problem -- Iphone connected to CarPlay and no microphone works the way you expect. Only if you set your phone and Sena together as "Second Phone Pairing" it will make the microphone work, but will destroy the audio quality coming through the headset.
Looks like a great little bit of kit.
Looks like an awesome bit of kit, especially for an older RT!!!
Just received the very same unit £120 on ebay hope to test it tomorrow.
The C5 Cast device just sucks. I installed it on my motorcycle and it worked great for a couple of days... after that it just stopped working. What happened?... well, first when passing through a city or town or any place with many cars or buildings, it started to receive a lot of interference and it disconnected my headset, then it restarted itself for no reason, I had to disconnect it from the power source now The on/off button didn't respond. Once I rebooted it would work fine for a couple of hours and then reboot again. Overall, a pain in the ass. In the end, it no longer recognized my smartphone and did not stream carplay wifi, it only connected via BT intermittently and kept resetting itself. I ended up returning the product and they refunded my money via Mercado Libre (Latam). Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea and a very useful gadget for us who ride motorcycles almost daily, but I feel that the product needs to mature and in the following versions it will possibly be better and all these problems will be solved. For now, I will wait a few more months to buy the product again. Greetings and good riding to all!
Check the site for a Firmware update - Just make sure you do it from a laptop that is full charged and this way you can't brick the unit because of power failure.
all great BU>T what about OS and Security updates from the OEM ( original equipment manufacturer). If your not Ford, etc the small OEMS will do updates for 1 year and then your left with a brick.
The menu said EMIT BT. I use an old iPhone 6s+ which will run any app but I do have to take it off the bike.
Just ordered one via your link above. Used FAT30 discount code and paid £188.50 at checkout. Not sure yet if import taxes will apply or not, if so will expect 20% duty on top. Still, I don't want to risk my iPhone 14 pro max camera with quad lock vibration dampener. Been spooked already with iPhone XS and ruined camera. These phones at over £1000 I'd rather just keep in my pocket thanks!
How did you get on with it mate??
@@RJ-tu3mz Hasn’t arrived yet!
over here we have the exact same thing branded as Jmance / Peerce. Exact same product & box but at only 140USD
Mark are you on the Portsmouth to Santander Ferry for your Spanish trip tomorrow? If so I'll look out for you and say hello.😃
I got back two weeks ago. Next tour is September. Ride safe
@@markholroyd5365 ah, should have realised today's video was recorded a couple of weeks back. 🤣🤣 Hope you had a great time
I don’t like touchscreens in a car and I dislike them even more on a bike. The temptation for using them while not at standstill is just too great (ex. zooming the map in and out using ludicrously small buttons) and full access to all the phone apps allows for far too many distractions/notifications. In my humble opinion the BMW Craddle (allowing you to use the Multicontroller to control the navigation/calls/bike mgmt) + BMW Connected app seems a somewhat more limited but safer solution.
You are right of course but lots of people use just their phones and it’s a great unit and solution for some people ;)
I noticed the vid at the end was shot on a 2013 RT? That’s my bike. How did you set it up? Is there a diagram or source? Thanks Toby.
Hey Kevin. It was indeed on an RT.
To wire it up was really easy. I used the supplied cable to USB and then used a din adapter with a USB adapter inside it, plugged the USB cable into it and then used the front left power outlet and it all works. I hid the cable behind the plastics on the left hand side of the tank :)
can-am RT Limited Spyder BRP. Are putting them on because it's difficulty to read the gps on the bike.
Great review. I like it a lot. Couple of questions though. Is the touchscreen glove compatible? Are there any import duties to buy a unit into the UK?
Hey mate. Yeah it works with gloves and we didn’t have any import duties either. Hope that helps
Very nice! Can I change the image of the BMW GS for any other bike?
not sure you can unfortunately... would be great to be able to though
Got it installed, no problem. I love it. I don’t have a dedicated headset so I use wired or Bluetooth buds. Music is great however, my turn by turn directions come through the unit speaker, not the buds. Is there some way I can turn the unit speaker off or redirect it? Map audio settings are all fine.🤨
Mine is the same. Everything works fine through my cardo scalarider Q3 but I cannot get my Waze notifications through the headset as it comes out of the units own speakers. Has anyone found a solution for this?
@@AaronPeacock99 I think the system is made for headset devices not buds. You can switch speaker sets from your phone for buds or BT but not for ways. CarPlay locks onto ways and won’t let go. Maybe the answer is a command in the CarPlay that turns that speaker off.
@@AaronPeacock99 Waze not ways….
It works fine. But the screen is too small for a motorcycle. And the audio output quality (Bluetooth) is terrible. You need to send the audio from your iTunes app to your headrest directly so the sound wont go through the unit. It sounds normal that way.
Also wonder what import duty will be due when it arrives. Nice unit though
There is a discount code (OTOCAR30) so I just paid £190. I will update if anything goes wrong with the order and how much HMRC bilk me for it.
Looks a good unit that’s set up for motorcycle travel. A very informative video, thanks. I’m now thinking what my tomtom rider 550 would sell for?
£90 over here in Malaysia via China !
So easy fix for power - add a 10,000 mAh Romoss Power Bank and let that charge from the bike and the unit can run off the Romoss! Done!
Looks great. You could try sticking matte finish phone screen protector to help make the screen more visible.
Question:
Is it possible to connect your phone to CarPlay and also connect it to a Cardo or Sena device for the sound output?
The finish is honestly great and is visible in day light no problems. I think it may be possible although you would have to set the priority of the audio output correctly on your phone but should be possible. Although I haven’t tried this
@@RiderCamTV On the reviews I saw - it works with Sena or Cardo. This is a great product.
Question …. If I connect my iPhone 14 plus to this , can I also connect to my helmet via Bluetooth at the same time ? , I have the viper Bluetooth helmet . Cheers .
You should be able to. I had my iPhone connected to it and my headset and it worked fine
@@RiderCamTV I’ve just ordered one 😎
Thanks!!!
I was impressed by this unit and looked it up on line. On one of the sites I stated that if you had an Apple I watch and that spoke to your I phone then the unit would not work.
Do you know if this is correct or not ?
It would be good to see how you fit it to the RT also, particularly where the wires attach
Not sure thats right as I have an Apple Watch and had no issues :)
Will it respond to hey siri, when also connected to gsa tft? 🐾
It should do but I have it on an older RT so no tft on that one
Hey Siri does not work properly through these CarPlay devices -- even on different brands. I am working through the same problem with another brand who supposedly will fix with a software update.
How did it fare when your phone is, for example, in your pocket of back pack? Likey any connection issues?
Worked a great. No drop pits at all with phone in a pocket
I picked up a different unit. Looks similar but it doesn't like my touch sensitive gloves that work perfectly with my phone. Curious if you find it responsive to touch.
That’s odd, as this one was really good. I wear the Furygan James gloves and not had a problem.
@@RiderCamTV Yeah...I picked up a Carpuride 5" unit. Hoping they release a patch that increases the touch sensitivity. There is a toggle on Pixel phones that cranks up the touch for glass screen protectors. Hoping they can fix it in software. It fails 4 out of 5 touches with my gloves.
Great product..but can you check that when in use,you cannot use your packtalk bold as a bike to bike Comms as the unit takes over this option??
It may do but I guess no different to connecting to a bikes tft and also a phone and then using Comms which work fine ;)
Hi nice video !! I bought the same unit but while using CarPlay on IPhone connected to this unit google maps wont show the navigation for motorcycle and it shows only for cars !! So Navigator always shows the route for cars only via express highways where Motorcycles are not allowed!!!! I don’t know 🤷 why its not showing for bikes !! May be Android Auto must be working ? Any one faced this issue?
Hi There, watched your video and bought one. It seems really great and functional except for the fact that when I play music through deezer / spotify the volume levels are not great, compared with just playing it from phone directly into my Cardo bluetooth headset in helmet. But because the ottocast overwrites everything as soon as you switch it on, I don't really have a choice.. Did you experience this issue and if so, is there a work around?
Have you ensured that the phone volume is up to MAX once connected to the unit? I find that this sorts out the issue.
Does it work also with normal bike glows ?
Yes works with the gloves I was wearing :)
And it works with regular gloves?
Yep it worked with ours
I have a cardo packtalk bold, my partner has a generic Bluetooth intercom, works well when you put it in cardo gateway, my issue is the voice commands no longer works. I gave up conecting it to the BMW tft. Will this work for me or any advice for my situation? Thanks
It should work. But have you tried changing the language on your cardo app to UK? Once I did this the voice recognition works a treat
@RiderCamTV Sorry , I meant I can't hear the sat nav talking when cardo is paired to non cardo unit using Bluetooth. Not that big a deal as I enjoy the silence but sometimes on a grinding road route it helps when your zoned out on cruise control. I really like this device you're reviewing, I might get one if it works fully. I ride a GS also and now I just don't connect the bike anymore, way too many issues and the nav on the connected app is pants. What is your experience?
After seeing your review I ordered a C5 Lite arrived within 10 days (I’m in Spain) AirPlay not working, no screwdriver and screws in box as shown on install instructions. The plate with the ball head was already attached, the micro usb lead not in plastic bag… worst of all AirPlay not working tried 3 different iPhones. Despite sending 3 emails to their support address no replies. I’ve just found a WhatsApp contact number for them, sent a message via WhatsApp. Will give an update as soon as I get a response. So far not very impressed with their support service.
That’s not a great experience. Hope you get it sorted
@@RiderCamTV WARNING: Riders -Check your headset/comms Bluetooth version before buying….you won’t get a full refund.
Hi there, great review as always, but Ottocast need calling out very loud and clear about deliberately misinforming customers for pure profit should you need to send it back. Although clones of these units can now be purchased from Ali Express for around £80, I paid £173 on an offer code from Ottocast simply because of their returns policy.
I have exactly the same problem reported elsewhere with the Schuberth SRC system (made by Cardo) fitted to my C3Pro helmet. Music, App sound etc all good, but the headset will just not connect no matter what.
After investigation and emails back to Ottocast they are now stating that their unit is ONLY compatible with headsets using BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) mode which I believe was introduced in Bluetooth version 4.1? The SRC is using an earlier version. It works fine with my Garmin Zumo and iPhone 14 using iOS 16 however.
Ottocast are stating that because the ‘issue’ is my headset not the C5, they will only accept it back if I pay to ship it to them, and then they will take a 35USD restocking fee!
I have gone back with screenshots saying that they are deliberately misleading customers. Nowhere on their website does it mention any Bluetooth headset connectivity requirements, and whilst their returns policy small print does mention the re-stocking fee, if they published the the minimum Bluetooth version and BLE requirement, I and others would not have bought it.
They suggest I stick it on eBay!! Great.
Keep up the good work
I use the same device, but have a big issue with it maybe someone can help me? Around 5000rpm from the bike vibration the device is reboot itself how can i avoid this? Thanks advance
Can you damp the mount? Not had any issues on an rt
Outside of the DashCam features…. How does this compare to the ottocast?
The connection with tpms and also the ruggedness of it. The CarPlay is as good but the audio is better as there is only a connection to your phone and your phone is connected to your headset so less to go wrong. Ottocast is good but the chigee feels much more premium
@@RiderCamTV Appreciate. I think I will put my outcast on the other bike and get the Chigee for my big bike. Mahalo!
Thanks for the review. Do you know if it’s possible to connect two helmets to the unit? So if my pillion was riding with me, they too can listen to the music.
Not sure. I’ve tried 2 can’t get them both to work at the same time
Take my money !!
I've tried everything and can't get the audio through to my cardo packtalk bold so pretty useless for me unfortunately
Need to go to the settings of the unit and use "BT EMIT" function. Connect to the phone and you'll get your audio through there.
Toby, can I ask what hardware did you use to mount the unit to the bike. Perhaps a clamp that connects to that garmin IV crossbar?
It was a hornig sat nav mount. Got it cheap in ebay
My nightmare startet when i bought this. It disconnects from bluetooth all the time.
90% of the times i try to turn it on, it does nothing. I have to take it out of the mount and click ot back in, before it works.
I have spend 3 weeks now with their support on e-mail and only get stupind answers and keep telling over and over again what is wrong.
Have asked many times if i can get a new or my money back. But get no answer…..
Sorry to hear that buddy. Our units working well.
They will tell you that you have to send it to China to determine if they will replace it or refund.
I am curious about how it fits on an benelli trk 502.
Not sure. You have to mount it and have a power source
Hi can you run this as a stand alone sat nav, with out connecting to your phone,
No as it uses your phone for CarPlay or android auto
Overpriced I think £150 would be more reasonable, it’s just a screen that duplicates your phone… no gps no battery
If I connect that ottocast to my bmw k1600b , will it play music through the motorcycle speakers ?
Not sure m afraid
Damn it
Did you connect your Cardo unit to it and it works? For some reason my shows connected but can’t hear it in the headset.Thanks ,Cheers
Yeah worked fine and connected first time
Did you the c5 lite to pair and work correctly? We haven't been able to. CarPlay works great but trying to pair a headset is a pain and when it does finally pair you can't hear anything in the headset.
We managed to ok. Have you contacted ottocast to see if there is an issue with yours?
@RiderCamTV yes. Waiting on a response
El dispositivo C5 Cast simplemente apesta. Lo instalé en mi motocicleta y funcionó muy bien durante un par de días... después de eso, simplemente dejo de funcionar. Que sucedio?.. bueno, primero al pasar por una ciudad o pueblo o cualquier lugar con muchos carros o edificios, empezo a recibir mucha interferencia y desconectaba mi headset, despues se reiniciaba solo sin razon, tenia que desconectarlo de la fuente de energia ya que el boton de encendido/apagado no respondia. Una vez que reiniciaba, trabajaba bien un par de horas y nuevamente se reiniciaba. Total, un dolor de culo. Al final ya no reconocia mi smartphone y no hacia el wifi straming del carplay, solo se conectaba via BT de manera intermitente y seguia reseteandose solo. Termine regresando el producto y me devolvieron mi dinero via Mercado Libre (Latam). No me malinterpreten, es una gran idea y un gadget muy util para nosotros que andamos en moto casi a diario, pero siento que le hace falta al producto madurar y en las siguientes versiones posiblemente sea mejor y todos estos problemas se resuelvan. Por lo pronto, esperare de nuevo unos meses mas para volver a adquirir el producto. Saludos y buena rodada para todos!
02:02 "If you drop (your phone) .... you can't pay for stuff"
I despair for our civilization.
I've heard there are a few places around the world that have started using a kind of medium of exchange - coloured pieces of paper and small, embossed disks of metal that represent various denominations of wealth and that can be traded for things. I think it might catch on.
That’s so retro 😂
I know what you mean and I still like using cash above everything but most people rely on their phones now. It’s all gone wrong 🤣
Utterly pointless. Jut use your phone
If you have a newer phone. Vibration of bike can break image stabilization of camera. Touchscreen on this is better with gloves. It also has split screen and landscape mode for apps like UA-cam music and xm app which don't do it natively
Did you watch the video Ewen? We covered that very point you raised 🙄
@@RiderCamTV Yes, I did. You didn't make a meaningful case for spending 250 quid on something that adds next to no functionality.
@@satur9satur9 Why are you even playing around with apps on your bike while riding? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
@@ewenbruce5851lol, you don't think keeping your phone from getting destroyed by vibrations is a good idea? Either you've got a piece of shit phone, or you didn't actually watch the video.