I know this fight has gotten something akin to a small cult following, but I can't stop thinking that going from MF to Yozora is one of the biggest glowups I've ever seen in a game series.
Wait if windcutter can be comboed with areial slam what about areial slam 👉 normal hit to trigger RV barrier👉limit storm? This might work oscurita since you found the wombo combo
It probably could. I think Limit Storm has the same startup time as Windcutter. It'd be mostly for fun though, since if I remember correctly, Limit Storm only hits once and doesn't air-toss. That said...it might be possible (if meme-y) to follow up with Sacrifice and chain _that_ into Limit Storm.
@@oscuritaforze Doesn't Limit Storm also require you to be at critical HP levels in order to do good damage? Practically speaking, it would be an outright downgrade compared to Windcutter because of that.
@Boyishdude Yeah that is what I suspect, it's why I said it'd mostly be for fun lol. That said, I'm pretty much down to try out (or revisit) any command against MF, for certainty's sake.
@@oscuritaforze Only way I can think of to where Limit Storm _could_ work if you get lucky enough would be to find some way to combine Limit Storm with the Sacrifice command so that way you can gradually chunk your HP on your own throughout the fight, but that might be too luck-dependent, especially since, as I recall, Sacrifice has a pretty long windup.
For commands: Aerial Slam and Fission Firaga have always been good, but they were previously underexplored. Windcutter is only decent under certain circumstances. The combo with Aerial Slam in particular is newly discovered (and will fail if MF doesn't block the normal hit in between). Ars Solum...wasn't good even with me getting kinda lucky with it lol. Two of the times I used it I started getting clone comboed almost immediately. For MF himself: It's part luck - the standout to me is 2:18, where I don't think there's any reason he couldn't have used Doom (which would've been guaranteed death). But it's also part knowing the boss well enough to anticipate and adapt to some of the BS. (For example, I only went for single hits before dodging or Aerial Slamming once I got into Critical Impact because I know MF has an unusually high chance of warping away from that style's normal attacks. I figure a lot of people would've gotten grabbed at 0:44 lol.)
@reddodeado301 Probably, though I also have a lingering feeling there's more to it than that lol. EDIT: OK, nevermind, I no longer feel there's more to it. I remembered Payback Fang triggering warp more often when in Critical Impact, but after just testing for that specifically, I think I was just drawing conclusions from one or two times I got unlucky.
I know this fight has gotten something akin to a small cult following, but I can't stop thinking that going from MF to Yozora is one of the biggest glowups I've ever seen in a game series.
Especially from the same dev team
@Unnamed noo way that's awesome! I'm happy for them lol
I love how the very first hit MF is like "you wanna rethink your plan here?"
And you went "alright, I'll stop going easy"
You know what's missing?
Terra: Say Goodbye!
2:42 SWAGGG
You used one of the coolest Terra's command on this fight, ars solum
Even got through the full, pre-extension part of the animation each time!
That was awesome
I think this is your slickest one yet!
Really nice! 🤟
Thanks! I was very happy with how this fight went lol.
awesome
Wait if windcutter can be comboed with areial slam what about areial slam 👉 normal hit to trigger RV barrier👉limit storm?
This might work oscurita since you found the wombo combo
It probably could. I think Limit Storm has the same startup time as Windcutter. It'd be mostly for fun though, since if I remember correctly, Limit Storm only hits once and doesn't air-toss.
That said...it might be possible (if meme-y) to follow up with Sacrifice and chain _that_ into Limit Storm.
@@oscuritaforze Doesn't Limit Storm also require you to be at critical HP levels in order to do good damage? Practically speaking, it would be an outright downgrade compared to Windcutter because of that.
@Boyishdude Yeah that is what I suspect, it's why I said it'd mostly be for fun lol. That said, I'm pretty much down to try out (or revisit) any command against MF, for certainty's sake.
@@oscuritaforze Only way I can think of to where Limit Storm _could_ work if you get lucky enough would be to find some way to combine Limit Storm with the Sacrifice command so that way you can gradually chunk your HP on your own throughout the fight, but that might be too luck-dependent, especially since, as I recall, Sacrifice has a pretty long windup.
how come the commands are better here and mf was less bullshit than bbsfm?
For commands:
Aerial Slam and Fission Firaga have always been good, but they were previously underexplored.
Windcutter is only decent under certain circumstances. The combo with Aerial Slam in particular is newly discovered (and will fail if MF doesn't block the normal hit in between).
Ars Solum...wasn't good even with me getting kinda lucky with it lol. Two of the times I used it I started getting clone comboed almost immediately.
For MF himself:
It's part luck - the standout to me is 2:18, where I don't think there's any reason he couldn't have used Doom (which would've been guaranteed death).
But it's also part knowing the boss well enough to anticipate and adapt to some of the BS. (For example, I only went for single hits before dodging or Aerial Slamming once I got into Critical Impact because I know MF has an unusually high chance of warping away from that style's normal attacks. I figure a lot of people would've gotten grabbed at 0:44 lol.)
@@oscuritaforze
Pretty sure MF has a high chance of warping out of Critical Impact's normals because normals deal two hits instead of 1
@reddodeado301 Probably, though I also have a lingering feeling there's more to it than that lol.
EDIT: OK, nevermind, I no longer feel there's more to it. I remembered Payback Fang triggering warp more often when in Critical Impact, but after just testing for that specifically, I think I was just drawing conclusions from one or two times I got unlucky.
not gonna lie i read the title and assumed you pulled some strings to get khii version of lingering will to fight mysterious figure
Ha, I could see that reading. It would certainly be a "significantly better Terra", that's for sure.
Gg so nice
1:00 That 1-frame block window. ☠
Yup lol, also a time when a command style change genuinely helped out.
Now, if only it were possible to use Ars Solum for long enough to be able to start pressing triangle...