How To Beat Apple At Their Own Game
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Here's what I did about my Apple problem.
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Here we see a Rick Beato turning into a Linus Tech Tips
@William Mazza, he really has it out for Apple. 🙊
@@kalijasin I don't think you have to be anti Apple to be pragmatic. I never could AFFORD an Apple. What I did get was affordable and definitely adequate.
@@kalijasin No, its just Legit constructive criticism.
That Apple brings on itself!
Jason C. Yea I know right? Apple isn’t that bad. I record music, podcasts, and edit videos with ease.
Steve Jobs to current Apple: "I've been dead for 9 years and the most innovative thing you've done is emojis?"
"No, Steve, we also learned how to file lawsuits for no reason!"
You forgot Tom Cr00ks contribution to the gay lesbian communities around the world, baby whipes, ky jelly And air freshner
Absolutely not true!
They also “invented” Memojis. It’s like emojis, but you can stick your tongue out.
@@TruenorthmtGod Yes! Apple is nowhere without an unhealthy dose of narcissism.
@@TruenorthmtGod Based on what?
Damn never thought Beato would do a video on computers. As a Beato fan and a computer nerd, it's a dream come true.
No. He should stick to music and get expert advise like he does with music. This build is a fail IMHO
Honestly same. Computers and music go hand in hand these days. Probably the most frequent question I get from aspiring artists is "what kind of computer do I need to do x, y and z?" I think this video very accurately gives millions of people the answer to that question. So many of my friends/acquaintances assumed they NEEDED an apple to record music and it's simply untrue.
If you built a $4,499 dollar computer for $1,499. Imagine how cheap apple can build them for...
yup...this is why i rarely by "anything" when it first comes out...
@@sseltrek1a2b I never buy anything when it first comes out for this point alone. Kinda like buying a new car.
That's why Apple is sitting on Billions of cash
@@christophertodman8254 And laughing at the stupid isheep!...................BAAAAH!
No, a $1499 computer for $1499.
around 94 or 96 my kids wanted a computer my nephew said it was cheaper to build your own, so I hired the kid to build me one but he would have to teach my two sons how to do it and let them be as involved as much as possible. I had to sail ships So I could not be there to help. two thousand dollars later they had a bright and shiny new 486 computer with a 20" monitor and they knew everything about it. they used that computer through grade school and all the way through college. one became a computer science major the other a defense radio electronics designer. So I think that was the best two grand I ever spent. later they did fall into the apple crap trap just like me, but we are in recovery now.
My parents sort prevented me from falling into the apple trap. They never wanted to buy Apple products because of the price, and I had to buy my first smartphone with my own money, so an iPhone wasn't an option ^^
lol
@@leDespicable 1 iPhone and 1 iPod Touch later, only Samsung and other Android things come near me
mcdradus smart move. It remind me of when our first son was in high school having trouble with math and I hired a local math whiz to help him out. Long story short he is a nuclear engineer with a free division 1 school diploma via the Navy. Best money I ever spent.
@@leDespicable- That's really too bad because once you go Mac you never go back!
Didn't someone say you were an old geezer stuck in the 90's? Love it how you proved them wrong.
"the minute you stop growing, is the minute you start dying..."...
@@sseltrek1a2b At a cellular level we are constantly growing and dying simultaneously.
@@sseltrek1a2b the minute you stop growing? I thought it was the moment I quit bitching..
When you can't get it up anymore it is time to get down.
I like how Newton solved the Apple problem.
That's the most brilliant comment I've read in a very very very long while! Thank you sir! In actual fact though, it was Newton that actually set up the problem :) We're still to this day looking for a solution!!)
The solution would be some sort of cider?!
There's a bunch of similarity to how Rick solved it, right?
That Newton! He was always coming up with stuff right off the top of his head.
Boones Farm.
I gave up with computer recording and software music stuff. I went back to playing music!!
Great advice! Though, I think you missed to mention an important point for people out here: hackintosh is not for any hardware, you need to buy pieces looking for compatible ones. For example: AMD processors are basically not supported by macOS, buying the wrong motherboard makes the build unusable. And it's not always granted that newer components give better compatibility
Oh godddd, the cable management and missing IO shield...the horror!!! hahaha great build guys!
Chris Hummel seriously. That has to be the most noob build mistake ever. He should stop now and watch a Linus tech tips video on how to build a PC.
Reminds me of my first build.
Stress acoustics and knowledge several times.
Couldn't even be assed to do some research on how PCs are put together.
The young guy told he doesn't know about computers. He was right.
doubt that he'd buy a USED Z270 boards as they are like a year old, also, the guy's a pro, he can't gamble on the mobo working perfectly
Man, this is cool. Thanks for taking the time to figure all of this out and sharing it with us, Rick. I'm a long-time Mac user and needing to upgrade my system soon, maybe I'll go your route. Thanks again, love your channel.
I would love to know if your hackintosh is still getting it done in the studio, Rick!
"Anyone can build these things." So true. And it makes you feel special. And imagine if you spend that $4500 Apple price on your own build? Holy smokes!
:( Well golly Batman
my dream PC Build is around 700 bucks with all the bells and whistles I could ever want. Paying 4500 bucks for a mediocre hunk of plastic is completely insane. You can't even upgrade components.
Oh man. It would be an absolute screamer
I've spent about 1.9k on my build and it's going to cost about 2-2.1k total, fully water-cooled 9600k and an rtx 2080 A chip along with 1TB nvme drive and 16GB DDR4 ram. For 4.5k you could go absolutely insane.
Yes but once you start doing water cooling and stuff, I would be more careful.
The absolutely amazing thing about PC's is that they can be upgraded.
My PC build was made in 2006, and I've basically been changing components as I needed them. Right now there are no parts from 2006 in my current PC, and I haven't done a 'complete' build at all - I was just changing things as I went.
Although that works quite well you can run into issues down the line and eventually you basically are just buying a new PC. Specially when you gotta swap out your CPU and Mobo.
But yea still agree
mine 2003
@@anubisgod23 when it's time for that, it's actually fun. Find out what's out there & what's right for you & still compatible with the rest of your system & it's a lot cheaper than a whole new system. If you spent high school building hot rods, building PCs is really fun.
I bought my computer in 2012 and I've since upgraded every part except the case. It's a regular ship of Theseus at this point.
I built my PC in 2006. Only thing that's been replaced is the power supply. It's been used just about every day for 12 years for music production. Solid as a rock. A relative bought me the original iPod Nano back when they first came out (2005?). It froze on first use. As did it's replacement. And the one after that. Only Apple product I ever owned and I got to listen to about 4 minutes of music on it. Apple is the Fisher-Price 'My First' of the computer world. Computers for people who don't know anything about computers (or anything else for that matter). I'll stick with my PC thanks.
Awesome! I just finished my A+ cert and I was thinking about building my own. Thanks! I will let you know when I am done.
Good on you Rick. I've been a dyed-in-wool PC guy since there have been PCs. I upgraded almost two years ago to a nearly identical system as you built. The only major difference is I'm running Windows. I've never understood Apple's cult following. Most people I know with even modest DIY skills shun Apple as schlock for the ignorant masses. Glad to see you broke out of their voodoo.
I was a died in the wool PC guys and since swallowing my pride and moving to mac I have upgraded every ten years. My current video edit system is a 12 core 2010 Mac Pro Tower with 64 gigs of ram and an 8 gig graphics card and it still runs circles around every PC I ever had and I don't have to deal with "Windows". My laptop is a 2012 MBP with 32 Gigs of Ram and an i7 Processor and it almost keeps up with my desktop when editing 4K H.265 video.
It's like watching an Apple fan discover they can build computers for the first time.
Fortune more like a console gamer discovering a gaming PC.
PCMR unite :D
Rick probably has a lot of Apple versions of software. Why pay for those licences twice?
I thought in the same direction. It's quite cute. Super professionals talking about something they don't know are almost always cute.
Anyway,
does it djent?
@@CasperLD WASD for life! lol
Let's remember, 32-bit applications (including plug-ins) cannot use more than 3.5 GB. Also, some DAWs cannot utilize multiple cores very well. Depending on your DAW, you may not notice a difference.
If you care, I'm a professional electronics design engineer. I understand electronics and what makes a difference.
If you are using a 64-bit, multi-threaded DAW, this will be fine:
Intel i7 or AMD Ryzen 7 processor. Xeon processors are not worth it, since their main feature is their compatibility with ECC memory.
8 GB+ DDR4 memory. Make sure your processor AND motherboard can support the clock rate and quantity.
SSD for OS and applicaitons. Use an NVMe M.2 drive. SATA 6Gb/s is not as fast and the price isn't much different. I suggest between 256 GB and 512 GB. You're paying for the capacity.
SSD or HDD for storing audio clips, documents, raw data.. I highly recommend an SSD, or 2 SSDs in RAID1, unless you have an automatic backup. SATA is fine for this. Depending on the size and amount of content, go for 512 GB+. Either way, you NEED a backup. I've lost music projects on a high quality, name brand SSD that failed. It can and will happen eventually.
GPU isn't very important for just music production, but remember how many monitors your motherboard and CPU can support. I also do some gaming and 3D modeling, so I have a GTX 970. For video editors and animators, you want an NVIDIA Quadro GPU.
Good quality PSU with adequate power for upgrades. Go with a name brand and spend a little bit more. You don't need a 1 kW PSU and it will be less efficient at low loads. 600 W+ is usually fine with a single GPU
Any case will do, but I recommend a quiet/silent solution (liquid cooled heatsink with integrated radiator). I enjoy my NZXT. case. I also recommend using only SSDs. I've noticed that there are times when my HDDs can produce EMI (electro-magnetic interference). I can hear it through my studio monitors.
You MUST have an audio interface if you are doing recording. The sound card is NOT good enough. It's too noisy, as it is integrated on the electrically noisy motherboard. Don't skimp on this. You want something that has a high SNR (signal to noise ratio). 192 kHz 24-bit isn't always good! There are so many poorly designed analog sections in audio interfaces. Trust me, I've designed sensitive, low-noise, high-speed interfaces.
As a fellow tech head, musician and studio/label owner for the last 20 years, your comment and information is spot on, well done and thanks!
There's nothing wrong with your advice, but "I'm a professional electronics design engineer" is irrelevant.
I think I'm able to confidently give factual advice about the quality of electronics products. That may or may not be useful for some.
You're absolutely correct. My old build was using a Phenom II, where the stock cooler was not great. I switched it out for a Corsair H50, which is very quiet even at full-load. However, my current build uses a Ryzen 7 with the stock cooler and it's dead silent inside my case.
My Corsair H50 has been run almost daily for 8 years and I haven't had any issue. That being said, you're totally right about the possibility of the failure causing a lot of damage when it does go.
King OfNothing It's called ethos
Inspiring. I recently rebuilt my mac pro taking it from a 1,1 to a 2,1 with most of the whistles and bells mentioned here. However, it will run its course in effectiveness, I'm sure, and when it does, I am definitely going to build my own from scratch. Thanks for the encouragement.
Be careful where you get the drivers from. If you have a disc drive (CD/Rom, DVDROM etc...), use the disc that comes with the parts. A lot of driver sites are just places to download malware. Only get the drivers from the manufacturer's website if getting them from the web. Rick, you're the man. Thank you for your awesome videos.
That and redundent bloatware Mike.
I've been building my own PCs since the 90's. Its the best way to go. Not only is it cheaper, you get exactly what you want. I don't run mac os though :)
And it can also be a lot of fun (usually)
I have built a lot of pc's with the daughter boards at SnapOn, loved it. Got to the point where I could read a whole XP key and type it all in without looking back, couldn't do that now.
I don't get it...
How would I then install all the Mac OS software?
which OS to run then? Windows 10 is a joke, Windows 7 is officially unsupported on all recent cpus, Linux has almost no software and hardware support, only MacOS can be used as Windows substitute in professional environment
using Reaper, it can handle more tracks and plugins compared to for ex. Cubase Pro 9 before starting to crash,
and using RME audio interfaces for decade, those work flawlessly regardless of operating system used,
Windows 10 is a tacky unfinished piece of crap which I totally refuse to use in any professional environment, been testing it past 3 years and it simply doesn't work well in the long run
aaron is hacking the pentagon 3:30
"what are you doing back there dude?"
"erm... nothing, just some cyberterrorism"
@Mike
hahahaa, RIck's face
Just NICE wallpaper but funny.
Haha! That was super funny!
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One of the most helpful and informative videos I have seen on any subject on UA-cam. Thank you so much for this info and for the encouragement. Even a technoklutz like me can do this.
Hi Rick. Love the video & the Apple rants! I have been building my own PCs for over 20 years & wouldn't have it any other way. I love doing it & build for others all the time. They tell me how much they want to spend & I show them the options in that price range. Never owned an Apple anything (learned why from friends & family) & never will. Love the channel & keep up the great work!
My recording rig is an XP box that's well over 10 years old. It isn't on any network since it is a dedicated machine. I forget the exact model numbers, but I run an old Gigabyte motherboard with a 3.2GHz, single core, processor, 2GB of RAM, and 4 assorted hard drives including one from a scrapped laptop. The interface/soundcard is an old PCI type EMU 0404 that I bought reconditioned off of ebay for like $32 or something stupidly cheap. I run SONAR 8.5.
The machine was basically cobbled together from a couple of bought things (mobo, sound card, power supply), but mostly used parts that I got out of other machines. It still runs extremely ~fast~ (comparatively speaking) for an XP machine. Menus and clicked actions appear faster than most high end modern computers running Win 10. And when I am recording parts, if it gets too processor or RAM heavy, I will mix down a track with some effects, then archive the original track so nothing is lost, but the plugins aren't using processor cycles or RAM. I've recorded well over 30 tracks simultaneously this way.
I do own a few Linux machines, mostly Ubuntu or Mint. I have a laptop running on Android. And my other computer is running Windows 7, which I plan to either upgrade into a triple boot machine with Win 7 and 10, as well as Linux OR just a dedicated recording machine.
I'm keeping my XP machine because it's got my preferred setup. I am in no way afraid of technology or someone who doesn't want to upgrade to more modern equipment. It's just that when you have very little money, if it ain't broke, DON'T FIX IT!!! Ha ha
Ha! Sounds familiar. My recording rig is also an XP machine with Gigabyte motherboard. And I use the Lite version of Cubase because it came with my Tascam interface. Suited my needs for years. Also using it to run Amplitube and Ozone plugins.
Very cool!
^^^ You're the man. I can't argue with points waxed so eloquent.
jonthecomposer - with you on XP. I'm running a 3.2 single core w/ 4 gigs ram, MOTU 324 pci card with two 1224's for I/O (16 × 16 analogue, 4 × 4 AES/EBU) and 4 HD's. Running Nuendo 4.
I can bang 16 tracks at a time into that machine for hours on end with no problems. I can run complicated mixes for hours on end with no problems. I can run multiple mixes out for HP's and for control room with no problem (and stupid low latency).
I put that machine together in 2006. As long as it keeps working like a champ (meaning, as long as I can keep cobbling it together), I'll keep running it. I know what it can do. I know how to make it do what I want. I can track full bands. I've run as many as 42 tracks in a mix with plug-ins. I run software instruments.
Only very rarely have I ever felt like I needed more than my machine could give me, and I've never not come up with a workaround on those rare occasions.
Every time I hear someone spec out the minimum requirements for a recording computer these days, I giggle a little. If they only knew how much one can do with so much less.
Hey, Rick. I'm sure many of us are curious to hear how things have been with the Hackintosh. Any chance we could see a follow-up video?
I'm sure he is still happy with it the build he has is really good and can easily future proof him for more years to come
Asim Shaiban i am sure Chris wanted to know about bugs and other issues which occur when you run hackintosh
Running Mac OS on a non-Mac computer is illegal so don't hold your breath.
I would advise you to check in after his second or third session.
Yikes. Stick to the music....
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing Rick!
I simply run Parallels Software on a new i7 for 50€. This allows me to boot iMac software, load Logic Pro X or FL Studio, run a Nektar controller and or plug in my guitars. PLUS - move files in either formats.
I've 38 years old, I've owned well over a dozen desktop computers since I was about 12 years old. I've literally built all of them except for the first two when I was in my young teens. LOL It is, by far, the way to go. It IS worth noting however, building a Hackintosh isn't near as simple as building just any ol' PC like it may sound here. Also I know this video is from several years ago, but a Hackintosh system is going to start becoming very hard to do once apple stops supporting intel CPUs. :(
I didn't even think about that!! I knew that they were developing their own proprietary CPUs, I never thought that they might make it so their OS isn't run by Intel. Well I'm glad I jumped ship. I love my Windows PC, I've never had a faster, better experience and like everyone else said: I'm so proud of it. It almost feels like an extension of myself, and I can change it whenever I need to easily. Don't even need to use Logic to make music; Presonus Studio One is incredible.
Anyone who is on the fence: just make the switch already. Altogether, my build (including Studio One Pro) was ~$1500US and I could not be happier with it. The machine I'm typing this on would be pushing $3000 in Apple territory, easily.
You skiped the interesting part: how did you install the OS on it and where did you get the OS from? Do you need an actual MAC to obtain the OS?
Wow..that is most definitely FOOD for THOUGHT!!..good job!
Another great talk! I was born in 1947 and grew up in Knoxville TN. Because of Oak Ridge 15 miles away and Nashville a hundred or so miles away. Knoxville had hundreds of math, engineering, and country music people. Chet Atkins lived there until he became an executive for RCA- a very nice man. He raised the Everly brothers there instead of Nashville. They did high school sock hops for years, usually standing on milk cartons. My father and a brilliant friend of his did some home studio work for him in the small house he and the Everly bros lived in. Later in college I took some courses in Cobol and Fortran. I had some brief access to some big time computers back then. And was briefly in a few studios. Please believe me when I say that consumer computers even in the 21st century are about what auto mobiles were in 1908. Don't waste your time on current tek or programs- they are already obsolete. I believe the future of music is live performance and as acoustic as possible..A few years ago my wife and I were able to get tickets for short recital in one of Cleveland's smaller venues. There were about thousand people in the audience. No cellphones or recording devices allow. There was no PA or microphone, just her, her voice and a pianist. No one even coughed. This was a pure acoustic event by a trained professional and was truly beautiful.This I believe is where the future will be found. Best.
Missing IO shield?
The Bear Why would you miss that part
+Nasduck
It helps with airflow through the case, for one thing (it's a pressure leak otherwise). For another, it keeps your fingers (and the plugs) out of the machine when reaching around and trying to plug things in blindly. Finally, although it's probably not important in a control room, it keeps animals from poking around or even crawling inside.
Mal-2 KSC you forgot the most important thing for a professional Audio computer. Keeping RF noise from leaking out of the case and inducing noise in microphones, cables and electrical instruments...
Intel core i7 6700k - processor
EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 superclocked - graphics card
16 GB DDR4 (you rarely need more than that today, I think 64 is totally overkill ) - ram
Asus Z170 - A - motherboard
Corsair RM650x - power supply
240 mm liquid cooling from Corsair (I don't remember the exact model)
Fractal Define R5 computer case
250 GB SSD from Corsair (don't remember the exact model) - OS
1 TB mechanical hard drive from Segate (don't remember the exact model) - general storage
Happy to see you decided to make an hackintosh that's really awesome .
Michael Novak for sounds libraries more memory it's necessary
As for music production I honestly don't know whether 64 GB of ram is beneficial, but I know that for other demanding tasks like video editing and gaming, a least today, you usually don't see a major improvement with more than 16 GB epically above 32 GB, but maybe It's really different for music production, although that sound weird.
Modern virtual instruments take up insane amounts of ram. An orchestral template can easily get above 32GB, although there are ways to optimize ram usage, of course.
good to know
Just too bad he didn't want to wait for Coffee Lake to become more widely available.
This is excellent, thanks! I've been agonizing for some time now over what my next system should be, and I think you just answered this for me. I'd love to know the details of how you assembled it. Or perhaps you could provide a link to someone who could show us how to do it? Thanks again!
plenty of videos out there and it really is very simple.
Thanks so much Rick for such valuable input be it for music, guitar, or plain reflection on how we consumers are being taken advantage off. I noticed that cloud, missing headphone jacks, no more USB ports all make us less independent and rather becoming dependent. Instructional videos like yours and by Tim Pierce among many others emphasize the importance of the internet and youtube.
Cool, did the Hackintosh more than 14 years ago, the need to do stuff after every update made me go back to the Mac:-)
It's easier now with QEMU which lets it run on any hardware, but since the M1 processor it's not gonna be able to do that anymore.
How To Beat Apple At Their Own Game?
*Don't buy/support Apple*
From your lips to God's ears!
I bought an Apple computer because I was tired of the problems with PC based computers (blue screens) and 3rd party software. Before I went Apple I had a programmer friend build me a computer that I thought would be last one I would ever need. It eventually had the blue screen problems too amongst other problems. I've had my Apple for 12 years now with NO problems...NADA.
@@ktcarl That's good. I hope it doesn't break and you have to get a new one. 12 years ago Macs were still pretty good, and these old machines ARE NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT!!
@@ktcarl User error.
@@ktcarl Hate to say it but that's my experience exactly. I want the hours back that I spent fixing PCs. 10 years on a mac and I have never once had to fiddle and fix and fart around, reformat, fix drives, replace things. I have a computer to do the work and with Mac the computer shuts up and gets out of the way and I only think about work. My macbook is so fast that haven't even thought of processor speeds, memory, caching etc. in years and years and years. Sorry to be the odd guy out but man it works for me. I used to buy a PC laptop every year, year and a half, towers frequently. Now I don't buy any. My 2015 macbook pro is so fast that I've never once noticed a pause. It's like an android phone, just snappy and fast fast fast.
Great info Rick! Discovered your channel a couple of years ago from the first DIY Hackintosh video. Thanks!
"Everything that can be made, can be unmade" -A little phrase a TV engineer friend of mine taught me a while back. Since Slapping OSX10 onto my Dell PC and making my first hackintosh (which ran for 6 months without a crash), I've be tearing been macs apart. They glue stuff together to make it chic-looking but ultimately it can with a bit of research and determination quite often be taken apart and (more importantly) be upgraded. More power to your arm, sir ;)
Not an apple fanboy but for fairness sake, did you include a 5k monitor in your build? Love your vids, keep up the good work 🤘🏻
No. Nor should he. The world doesn't operate on 5k, nor will it.
There's one thing I would SERIOUSLY recommend. No matter what OS or DAW you're using, it is extremely recommended that you use multiple harddrives (solid state) and set up your disk allocation in your daw to share the workload. It massively improves your performance by taking advantage of the data bandwidth to your processor. I did it on my last two computers and it has helped...even with the old mechanical harddrives. It's better than upgrading your memory.
This got a lot more intense than I expected and I love it
I built my first one in 2016 after returning from deployment and I spent about ~$1500 originally for gaming and producing as I finally had enough money to get started! Runs like a monster looking to replace my GPU for something quieter (I don't game much anymore and my GPU is loud) and get another SSD specifically for all my music and art. Cool video man glad you found a solution!!
Hey gang,.... I've been building systems since the late 80s. It seems amazing that state of the art systems always seem to be 1k price point or there about. The difference is that all I've built have been windows based systems. Apple hardware is, and always has been out of budget for me. I would like to know the process of intergrating the hardware with apple software... and how you would rate the performance ver running same software on apple hardware... sound fun?.... I hope so. Keep it up Rick!
The poor thing was so helpful! Why did you talk to him like that?
Lol
❤️
Thanks for the video.
Antonella Kalavati ...Yah, seemed serious, maybe he was joking 🙃. Could’nt tell- my guess it was planned
Building your own PC is such a great thing. I love the sound when you hook up the power button to the motherboard and fire it up for the 1st time. I haven't built a PC for about 4 years because I usually use Linux (Linux Mint Mate in fact) and that OS uses very little system resources to run beautifully. You should try a dual boot with that nice machine you have to run both your OS for your work and the Linux Mint for everyday stuff, you will probably really love it. My builds usually run about 500 bucks, but I am currently building a dedicated gaming machine so it will no doubt cost about double that price.
you are a learner Rick! great video that you share whats inside your computer. at least were leveling together in this area. hahaha. love all your videos. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
3:35 hacker man in the background XD. Also you can get PCI cards for lots of things, pros could really use this stuff
I built my own PC and it’s kind of a nightmare for audio production. The problem is that you can spec it however you want...Macs just play more nicely with audio production. Asio4All is a decent fix but Apple’s built in drivers are superior. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten weird latency issues, audio dropouts, etc that basically boiled down to “because Microsoft.” Hackintosh is a smart solution!
@@freedomgoddess Build a hackintosh then
Hey Rick, great video! Just in the process of researching for a Hackintosh build, equivalent to the New Mac Pro. Would love to see you do an updated video on this topic!
I'm a software engineer, but i suck at hardware. However i can tell you 2 things :
One : that Aaron guy is awesome
Two: you build a monster. I hope you beat the crap out of that thing. Make it rock Rick !
Install the IO shield... and get some zip ties...
Also fan dust filters...
Yeah lol, the supposed computer expert inserted the motherboard into the case without the IO shield. That is a painful mistake to correct. Very amusing.
@@lunchbox9991 Doesn't actually matter tho.
1K for a near 6K Apple equivalent... Left Apple 3-years ago after loosing significant amount of time & money. (Ryzen 1700X, Windows 10 Pro, 16GB Ram, GeForce 1080, and an excellent ASUS Motherboard). And as far as the rundown on my rant... Adobe pointed fingers at Apple. Apple pointed fingers back at Adobe. Replaced the top-of-the-line Apple 3 times, via warranty status... Also as a means to teach Apple. - - > Left reviews and spoke with supervisors on multiple levels - - > All the way to the main corporate branch. | With all due respect, I was running right along and enjoying the Apple experience; < - - blissfully unaware of the ability to buy/build a PC. |
- - > Meanwhile, cool demonstration on the next generation of production personal. Point well taken!!! < - -
^This guy gets it^ "Assembling" a computer isn't rocket science, I wish more people would try it. Do your own upgrades... It just takes a little reading or watching UA-camrs with the knowledge.
Cool poem.
you can save some money and drop the 1700X to the 1700 & set the 1700 to 3.7ghz in the bios with the stock cooler.
could save around $100 depending on cooler you buy. the 1700X is not a good buy when the 1700 overclocks just as good
Great video. Could you possibly add a list of the parts/brands? I would expect that the quality of the motherboard would be important for a reliable studio DAW.
I swore off Apple back in 1994-5(Give or take a year or two). I bought I nice new mid range Mac LC575 for $4000 odd Aussie Dollars, that was a lot back then. 3 Weeks later Apple announced they were moving to Power PC Architecture. Which basically meant I had an Apple Paper weight worth $0.
Everyone stopped making software for my LC575.
I Used the LC575 for 2 years and it broke down. The cost to repair it was almost as much as it was to buy a new one.
Good to see not much has changed with Apple.
I'm a computer Tech running my own business, I have 5 Staff, we repair and install both Windows and Apple computers. There has definitely been a decline in Apple products coming through our Workshop of late. Many of my customers have moved away from Mac.
Every time I see a customer switch to Windows it brings a smile to my face.
If a customer asks me whether they should buy Apple or Windows you can guess what my reply is:)
I had convinced myself to not build a Hackintosh...but now it's back in consideration. Thanks Rick!
Unless you are highly technical and have experience troubleshooting driver level issues, do not build one.
As the guy above me said, don't build one unless you know what you are doing. Even though I dislike the way apple does things, hackintoshs are not a good solution if you want to build a workstation, way too unstable, and way too buggy.
If you are really dependent on the OSX software I unfortunately recommend you buy a mac.
However I suggest you consider moving to windows, there are a lot of misconceptions with it being buggy, slow or full of viruses, but trust me, as long as you know not to click the big red download buttons, windows is perfectly fine (in some cases better since more plug-ins are compatible with windows).
Also don't get 64gb of ram, seriously, please don't.
I am, and I do. I only have to ask myself if I want to spend the time doing it.
64gb of RAM too much? Depends on perspective, I guess. I spend my days with servers that have 768 GB of RAM, so 64 sounds reasonable.
I mean 64gb is fine, the more the better, but 64gb of ddr4 is not cheap. If you have the money go for it, but if not, don't sweat it 64gb isn't really *needed*, 32gb will do just fine.
For example I would rather put $200 into getting a better CPU, or getting a bigger SSD than spending $200 to double up my ram to 64gb.
A small nitpick, but showing the hackintosh build, you say that the CPU with a lower frequency is slower. This metric hasn't been true for quite some time. There are A LOT of things that affect CPU speed. Higher frequency doesn't mean faster, it just means higher frequency. It doesn't even mean more operations per second, because that heavily depends on the internal architecture, such as the number of compute units, pipeline length, etc. There's also tons of other factors like cache size, which can drastically affect performance.
I know this is quite offtopic and not really relevant, but felt worth mentioning since people often misinterpret hardware information.
TL;DR: 4.0GHz is not necessarily faster than 3.7GHz. There are vast number of cases when a CPU with a higher frequency is slower. Compare speed with benchmarks.
Frequency is the number of complete cycles per second, higher frequency IS faster. I think he actually gets that , if your going to nitpick, then understand it, don't just parrot some other nerd.
Chuzz Bot Nope, the frequency of a processor is the clock speed, not the number of operations completed per second. The measurements that tell you how many operations are completed per second are FLOPS or MIPS. For example; my 6800k crushes a 672 (both intel) despite the 672 actually running at a higher clock speed (6800k is about 2000 times faster on cpubenchmark). A Xeon E5 2699 crushes both despite running a clock speed over a GHz less than either. The clock speed is a factor in how fast a processor runs, but there are many others including; number of cores, number of transistors per core, parallelisation and memory configuration. Peak clock speed hasn't really changed much over the last two decades, but every other aspect has been drastically improved.
TL;DR: Cut the snark, your comment is completely incorrect.
There you go , getting all nerdy and making up what I said , to suit your own tiny little world. THE WORD Frequency , means is the number of complete cycles per second, I didn't mention computers or clocks or anything. This is my point , you are obsessing with nerdy details without understanding the meaning of the word. I don't give a frak about your flops, but if you look in a dictionary ( they were around before hard drives, or cpus ) or science book, you will find exactly what frequency means. When you do, I suggest you wedge it sideways in your jazz drive.
Chuzz Bot Chuzz Bot Unless you have absolutely no grasp of the English language you should have realised that the comment you replied to was specifically talking about processor performance as was the guys advice in the video when the word speed was used. The person in the video falsely said that you should go for a processor with a clock frequency of at least 3.4GHz which is a completely invalid statement as it doesn't actually mean anything in terms of processor performance, which was the aspect of the advice given in the video being referred to in the original comment. Furthermore if you had even bothered looking up what FLOPS meant, you'd find that it meant the frequency at which floating point operations are carried out, or in terms you'll understand; the frequency at which the most basic calculations your processor does are performed. This is a completely different scalar from the frequency of the reference clock of the processor, which is the number given out by processor manufacturers. Frequency has completely different meanings when you apply it to different events, which you would be aware of if you were a 1/10th as smart as your prose suggests you think you are. You're also watching someone build a hackintosh and calling others nerdy? You should probably look up the idiom about stones and glass houses.
TL;DR: take your boorish attitude elsewhere and look up 'context in the English language' before replying again. The statement in the video was factually incorrect and the comment you initially replied to corrected the person speaking in the video.
George George George. Unless you are a complete troll you should have realised that you are talking at cross purposes to the actual point I was making. You can fuss all you like , but The WORD frequency refers to speed. That's all there is to it. Sorry drone.
The most important thing is that you choose the correct processor. It really does not matter how many cores or threads a cpu has. What matters most is that you choose one based on it's ability to utilize one core for the entire workload of the recording software. The reason for this is that a cpu that spreads it's workload over all the cores will cause a lag in playing your instrument into your DAW. Intel processors that utilize a single core before it has to start using other cores is the only way to go. You can always go to the Intel website to find out which processors are better at utilizing a single core for the entire workload before being forced to use another core. Processors that utilize a single core better than other processors will cut out any lag or delay while recording instruments. One iCore7 may do this better than another iCore7 that is similar in speed and price. Always check out the Intel website to view the complete specs and find out which processor is better at utilizing a single core fore the entire workload first. I'm also a Systems Integrator and tech and I'm also a musician that plays everything but drums. For some reason I have a problem using the high hats on a drum kit lol. It just throws me off. Love your Channel and keep up the great work and informative videos.
This is a good trade off for you Rick. Some people may suggest switching over directly to a Windows PC for a fraction of the cost, however that would require you to learn an almost whole new workflow. Building a Hackintosh (off the shelf PC components that can run OS X) for a fraction of the cost is a great happy medium.
i build my pc the parts are
amd 1500x
rx580 8gb
asus b350 plus
16gbddr4 3000mhz
2tb hdd
120gb ssd for windows
nzxt h500
One problem with the speed of a cpu/processor or ghz
is that different Cpus have different architectures. so 4ghz might be 3.8 for a different cpu intel/Amd
Go AMD for core/threads go intel for ghz.
Can't use AMD for Hackintoshes, since MacOS is only meant to run on Intel.
Plus wouldnt music not need threads?
I was always under the assumption that AMD Threading CPUs are really good for simulation/AI Programmers. Anyone else is better off with an Intel
Not Really some programs uses more cores than others.
Ryzen has a better potential performance for the price than Intel.
its just up to the program if its programed to use it.
@@Ravenomics yes. But in general the only programming that really utilising more threads is high data, AI and simulation.
Web developers. Small database admins, software engineers are alot less likely to need or even use them
Correct Currently applications us really only up to 4 threads.
but both intel and AMD are pushing 6 to 8 core cpus in mass.
so its expected that programs are pushing for the same.
Not now but later.
An eMac was gifted to me, too heavy to steal, using Logic Express 7, I don’t desire anything else atm.
Nice to know there’s a way forward
wow...thats amazing I might get my buddy to build one for me, thanks Rick!
Nice but.. Does it run Crysis??
It was a joke
Being how old that game is, and the fact that it came out in the era of the 8800GT card, yes this will run Crysis. :)
lol nice one
youknow the meme but can it run crysis in 4k
Michael Dell built a multi million dollar business just like this... from his dorm :-P
I've once put together a Hachintosh (maybe 2012?) in a rack housing for a studio use. I think it's still working. Dual boot W7/Hackintosh.
Since you're interested in graphic and sound production, you shouldn't skip on the video card. Many motherboards that include graphic capabilities produce lower quality depending on the price range of the motherboard. Your best bet is to look over the video card specs that seem favorable to your needs and buy that. Your buying a card that is known, rather than relying on the motherboard's unknown qualities. I started my computer career in Silicon Valley building computers, including custom computers, repairing them, technical support, and quality control engineer. What I said about the video card also applies to sound. Check the specs for the onboard stuff and compare that with external sound cards that you like. If onboard information is missing, get an external card (with stats that you know.) If onboard stats are missing, there's probably a good reason why they are not included.
Hey Rick - are you still using a Hackintosh and is it stable? I tried one and could never get Logic to be stable on it - constant crashes, freezes, etc. I've heard that could be specific to Logic - I assume you're using PT?
I also want to know about this. I like better Logic than Pro Tools but I've had Nothing but bad experiences with Apple. I Don't know what to do anymore.
I’m a computer scientist... There’s no reason I’m watching this other than loving Rick. - Though actually, the iMac isn’t as overpriced as it seemed in this video. The iMac comes with a great 5K display that on it’s own costs around 1 grand. The SSD isn’t just any SSD either, similarly you pay for custom elements like the logic board, and some of the controllers on there are quite expensive, like the Thunderbolt controller. The Radeon 580 is also a really nice GPU. In a like for like comparison, granted comparing to one of the more expensive PC brands, I got the iMac out $300 cheaper.
But that’s really just an aside. If you’re happy with your setup and it works well for you, good. If not, you can change whatever on the PC, and not the iMac, and that’s great. My own iMac died recently due to the GPU failing, and it’s BGA soldered to the logic board so swapping that would be not just difficult but also way more expensive than worthwhile. That’s the biggest downside of Apple sadly. I’d much rather have a tower like the new upcoming 2019 Mac Pro, but damn those prices are steep. That one also has reasons for its massive price tag, but the reasons are hard to swallow if you don’t need the ultra high end model for mission critical work and it’s payed by an employer.
But I need macOS and I couldn’t do with the headaches of managing a hackintosh. I could fix anything faster than most as a computer science person, but I just don’t want to deal with an hour of fixing the OS to work with the hardware, when I just want to code for the latest beta release.
Macs are way overpriced. I've designed PCs. A Mac is basically a reference design with a few minor customisations. It's just packaged nicely. Not upgradeable or user serviceable. I will add that all the drivers are standard and basically linux customisations done by Apple for unix.
@@pentachronic It doesn't take a computer scientist to know that.
@@kitekrazee Did I say you had to be ?
Yeah, the apple ssd is soldered onto the board, making sure that if it fails, you have to replace the whole loigcboard...haha. There is nothing special about Apple's SSD's, they are buying them from third parties.
You don't really sound as a computer's scientist. More like a fanboy doe
I found this very helpful,
Thank you. 👍
I didn't know you did this too Beato! I keep coming back...there's a genuine real touch here with this guy. Good music, good videos, great intellect, and white hair!
Ah, the white hair. So important.
If you're going to load MacOS onto a home built PC, you need to be aware that not all brands of Mobo, CPU, Rams and video will be supported. Also be aware that you're committing software piracy as you will be stealing the MacOS. It is not just a EULA violation. It is piracy. This could affect your work flow and how your Hackintosh plays with other licensed components. These are facts, no judgement involved.
Also be aware that it is no trivial matter to load MacOS onto a home built PC. It is not for the faint of heart. You will actually need to be fairly well versed in kexts, plists, EFI and other aspects of MacOS/Linux/Bootstrapping systems. You may have to troubleshoot some baffling issues. It does not always run smoothly even all other things being equal. And updates can be a real pain.
If, after all this, you still want to try it, then go for it, knowing you have been fully informed of possible issues. At some point, the time spent getting it all to work isn't worth the money you save. Its easier to buy a used Mac and upgrade it, and to learn to use a PC. I don't think there is anything anyone can do on a Mac that you can't do on a PC faster, cheaper and better now. Files move easily across platforms too. But some people still want to use their Macs and that's ok. You now have one more option to go about it.
But that phrase "Apple, it just works" doesn't really apply anymore. Just look at the lines at the genius bar.
This... x10
It's nice to be appreciated :-)
What other licensed components?
These days though Hackintosh has been made pretty trivial.
Windows still doesn't feel as nice to use. I use both daily.
He could of gotten a SSD from a mac.
Bob: I agree with a lot of your post except I believe the only way to acquire the OS X is to purchase it from the Apple Store -- which must be accessed by a system already running Mac OS X. I had already been researching building a Hackintosh for a friend and stumbled on this very issue. If I were to manage to pay for the OS X, I wouldn't feel as if I had stolen it, though I realize using it on a Mac is not what Apple intends -- though how many people also dual boot Windows on an Apple machine? But, again, I agree with much of what you said.
**FOR ANY FIRST-TIME HACKINTOSH USERS**
Unless you have prior experience troubleshooting driver-level issues and configuring custom DSDTs for your motherboard and PCIe connections, please do not try Hackintosh. You may have a smooth first year, but eventually you will introduce new hardware into the computer or mistakenly update macOS without proper prep. As a hackintosh user, you will be running third-party drivers written by a fine individual of InsanelyMac forums... In fact tonymacx86 STEALS all their content from this hackintosh user forum, and presents it in a newbie friendly way. Keep in mind that real Apple drivers are written by professional teams with deep access to the macOS internals. Your driver written by a single developer will eventually be abandoned.
If you are okay with building the system once, and essentially never changing a component or driver for the period of time you plan on having a 100% working system -- then you will enjoy your build.
If you plan on staying up to date with various drivers for your PCIe devices and macOS versions -- do not attempt a Hackintosh without a collegiate level understanding of systems-level computing.
Collegiate level of understanding, really!!! The only skill required is the ability to read instructions, search the web and problem solve. I don't have a degree in computer science or information technology. I built a Hackintosh in 2014 from tonymacx86 suggested parts. I'm running Sierra just fine and have run every Apple OS released since 2014 except High Sierra. I check the forums first before installing security and OS updates, and I've never had a problem with an update. I haven't installed High Sierra on my MBP either. As long as you stick with the suggested hardware, Clover does most of the work for you. I've only had a slight issue with my cheap Bluetooth/WiFi mini card, but It doesn't work well in windows either.
"do not attempt a Hackintosh without a collegiate level understanding of systems-level computing"
*tips fedora*
College has nothing to do with it. I know several people with computer science degrees who can barely use a computer compared to me.
Searching forums for solutions is one, time consuming and two, an indication that you are running into problems that are more involved than a simple search of how to set something up. That may be the trade off where your time and effort is the trade off from what you saved on an actual Mac.
Or a simple search takes you to a forum where instructions have been posted on how to setup your hardware. I found the whole experience to be fun.
Hi Rick,
I recently subscribed to your channel and keep watching interesting videos of you, including those that you posted in the past. I have great respect for your musical abilities and I really appreciate your work! Thanks and keep it up!
A question from an unsuspecting person to you as a long-time Mac user: will I find suitable IOS software for simple video editing or for music recordings on the web for free?
Or does IOS already provide such tools as on-board resources?
lg Danny
My favorite part of the studio PC I built many years ago, RME audio RayDAT card for low latency audio I/O.
That cool outro music tho :o
EpicZEVEN do you (or anyone else) see what it was?
Sounds like Dylan singing, must be one of their songs (no idea which)
its Otis mcdonald aka Joe bagale, he makes alot of really cool royalty free music and he has some albums under Joe bagale. most of the Free stuff is under Otis Mcdonald.
I only disagree on the graphics cards being optional. I mean with the amount of visual reference on software these days the graphics card really needs to work.
for gaming.
I disagree on your disagreement. If you only do software development, browse the internet and watch videos, you don't need a fancy graphics card. Of course, I understand that you want to run Minecraft @120FPS 🤣
@@menyasavut3959 Have you ever did a track using 200 individual tracks with a 256 MB graphics card? Even if you mess with the aperture size you will be going through hell. The difference between a 512mb to a 1 gb and up it's pretty big working with Cubase or PT. Logically you won't need a gamers graphics card with ridiculous ram and pipelines tho. I don't even play games.
I'm saying this because i had the exact same setup just upgraded the GC and the difference was huge as the GC won't need to use your cpu.
I don't think we are in this channel because we are gamers or software developers. Most of us are musicians right ? Cheers
Everything is amazing... Hats off to you Rick and your guy, great job!!! I use the Apollo Racks using thunderbolt 2, I know there is a thunderbolt 2 to 3 adapter and thunderbolt 3 and USB C just looks like the same but are essentially different working mechanism, so I am unable to built a Hackintosh with thunderbolt 3 that works with MacOS, there are a few high end motherboards by ASUS supporting thunderbolt 3 but no confirmation on working with MacOS, If you have any one using Apollo racks with MacOS on a Hackintosh or just any information regarding this idea please throw me some light and guid lines on it. Cheers to you Man!! And being a computer engineer and music producer Id say you have the heart, knowledge and strength of a young guy in the 20s!
Rick, your Hackintosh box is a beast! 👌🏻 I’m a Windows guy who has built numerous and varied Windows boxes over the last quarter-century. Although I can’t afford it anytime soon, I want to add a Mac box to my computer stable. This video has inspired me to build my own Hackintosh box.
By the way, “enclosure” is a vague term. “Chassis” or “case” is more specific.
You should have went with a ryzen cpu, but still, a nice build! btw dont judge the gpu only by its video memory.
On paper it would be nice, but MacOS is only designed to work on Intel CPUs. I highly doubt it would work at all.
Apart from OSX not supporting this (because he likes to lock himself down with this inferior OS) Ryzen isn't really that great just a cheap alternative to intel with rather weak cores.
That Cable management and Missing I/O shield thou .... 😅😅😅
You're my new hero!!
I like hackitoch for many times (10ans) and it's the first time i seen a guy use it for profetionnal mixing music!!
It's great!! Keep going!! Mac it's crap!!
I Work on the "PA land" concerts and , festivals....
Sorry for my english
Wow! Forgive my ignorance, but this is so cool. I didn't know that this can be done via snapping in the components. I thought we had to go soldering, splicing, running wires etc. This really changes things dramatically. Wonderful vid! I'm seeing this in 2020 so I wonder how much has changed since you've put this vid together. Things progress so quickly.
Hey, Rick. Huge fan here.I realize this video is almost three years old, but I just wanted to chime in. I built my own pc. Here are the specs: 3.40 gigahertz Intel Core i7-6700 (water cooled), 64 gig RAM, ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING motherboard, various SSDs totaling about 20 TB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TI FTW3 Ultra graphics card with 11gig of ram, Samsung 32 inch curved monitor, EVGA NU Audio sound card (which is freaking awesome), PolkAudio OWM5 speakers, Sennheiser wireless headphones and Google Fiber 1GBit/s for my internet. I just got the Positive Grid Spark 40 and I am loving it! I use Mixcraft 8 Studio for my recording. What music software do you use?
Mark Korolevich Good job, that’s a solid build. Rick uses Pro Tools, as do I.Your Mixcraft is a great choice for musicians. For everyday engineering, most go with PT. But it ain’t the DAW that makes the music. ✌️👍
Tl/dr: spend 900 dollars on a PC and you're good to go.
Or spend 5000 on a Mac you can't get serviced, and Mac will tell you that you need a new one.
And imagine what this kind of "support" does to our planet...
I have a 2014 Macbook Pro running Logic Pro X and I love it, so I might just buy a few more of the same exact model at a fraction of the price if I need a replacement. I use it to make albums/music videos and it's great. I don't see a need to upgrade anytime soon.
Good informational video to put out for people. I’ve been building my own PCs for gaming for over 20 years, always has been far cheaper than buying one with similar specs. Many don’t realize how simple and easy it is even for people that aren’t at all mechanically inclined.
eh the issue i see is warranties and problems. if you buy a prebuilt, you call the store. if you build it yourself, you have to track down the papers to see what the warranty is and deal with that. seems way more annoying.
@@bradhaines3142 way less annoying than forking over double to triple the price on the initial layout.
@@j.dragon651 it isnt that big of a price increase though
Since the year 1999 i am using only custom build computers on PC basis one for office and one for production. They all run solid. And i'm still using Win7, some might laugh, but why changing a running system and why spennding so much more money to a company, that changes its parts every couple of years so.
kamaismusic customized win 7 ( barebone drives upload ) intel i5 with only 4 gb of ram and my machine out perform my friend win 10 i7 with 16 gb of ram. This days companies preload so much crap inside your Computer that by the time you load what you need haft of its performance power is waisted. Never update and always clone your drive.
XP has security problems and is no longer getting security updates, if you want to kiss that computer good bye then go ahead and use XP otherwise upgrade
Running Apple o/s on PC parts. . . You're almost there dude.
what does "there" look like?
@@MalikEmmanuel "There" looks like a completely devoured apple rather than a singular byte.
@@MalikEmmanuel Linux?
Creeping Jane I guess my problem is that I need LogicX....
brilliant video man! cheers
Also the track at the end is super sick!
Hey Rick, I dunno if you’ve already interviewed Guthrie Govan. If not, be sure to ask him about the growing interest in microtonal music and his experience with fretless guitars. Maybe this relatively new instrument can be a major contributor to this century’s coming music? Perhaps different learning methods (such as Suzuki) that are foreign to traditional guitar pedagogies will be necessary to capitalize on the fretless axe’s idiosyncrasies.
A better one to ask would be Ron Thal instead, since he plays fretless more often than Guthrie does, to the point of having a double neck with one fretless neck.
I cannot believe what I’ve just watched huh! Apple is killing us. I’m so inspired Rick. I’m gonna definitely build my own. Thank you so much.
Richard Boateng well we welcome you to the PC Master race remember if you need any help the sunreddit is the best place to go
r/buildapc is the subreddit to go !
A few tips, get the best power supply you can afford, in wattage and quality. Learn how not to fry components with electrostatic discharge, memory and M/B all affected by this..
For audio interface, a two way system is good, ie it becomes a sound card so internal sounds can be played out to external amplifier, research what what works for you. Firewire does a good job with external mixer with this, in/outs all handled by software drivers.
yuo only need so much wattage, so that is a false argument. Quality and efficiency, that does matter. When your system takes 300watts from the wall, you don't need more then a 600watt psu. Why? Because, at 50% load from the psu, the psu works at its best efficiency, hands down. It will stay silent too.
It's much more than gigahertz (clock speed) and core count. Advertised clock speed can be ignored anyway since you could just overclock. But what makes the difference is the CPU architecture. A better architecture handles more threads, or executes more instructions per second (IPS) at a lower clock speed. The general thing I recommend is for multi-threaded applications, a higher core count can be very helpful, even if it runs at a slower clock speed. Because more cores usually means the CPU can execute more IPS's, if the architectures are relatively the same. But again a better architecture and less cores could be better. It's always situation dependent too, because some applications will not utilize those 16 threads. And that can be a performance hit. That's why for gaming we tend to stick around 8 (hyperthreaded, meaning 16 logical processors, 8 psychical) core, for the more demanding games. And even that can be overkill. I hit about 35% utilization on Red Dead Redemption 2, which is a more demanding, and much newer game than my CPU. What would benefit the game is a better architecture, not necessarily more cores. (Really my GPU is why it won't run lol). And again my advertised clock speed doesn't matter because I overclocked, which is raising the clock speed. (Advertised 4.0 I'm at 4.7)
For a production based PC I would recommend this:
For CPU AMD Ryzen 5 or higher, and not the apu's. APU's are processing units with and integrated graphics processor, or iGPU, the piece of silicon on a video card responsible for rendering. These will game as well. I recommend sticking Ryzen for production.
For graphics card, if you're not doing any rendering, anything works. Get a cheap Nvidia GT 710. But use case is important. If you want to game for example, then think about what kind of games and pick a card appropriately. To cover everything but the most demanding games, I would just say go Nvidia GTX 980 or better (1070 is roughly equivalent 1000 series) or AMD RX550 or better. For SERIOUS visual production, rendering, workstation level files that need to be done quick, go for the best card you can afford. 2gb of VRAM is not enough for rendering. Now I don't know anything about AMD workstation cards, but for Nvidia I would say 2080 or better for video, and you can go a little lower for picture. But it also depends what resolution you want to render in. I'm assuming you want as high-res as possible. Although if you really need a powerful graphics card to render multiple projects at once and you can afford it (I assume this has some kind of payoff and you're most likely a business) then drop a few grand on a Nvidia Quadro. These are also great for general-purpose computing. Quadro's are actually used by a few supercomputers for general-purpose computing.
For RAM, I agree 16gb should be enough. But make sure its decently fast and that you get 2 modules of 8gb, not one 16. This runs the RAM in dual channel mode. Also, get a motherboard with 4 DIMMS, in case you decide 16gb isn't enough later. You can double it.
Motherboard is up to you... not one to be picky about a motherboard, so long as the company has a low rate of failure, and good warranty. Same with power supply. Just make sure both are correct for you system. With motherboard that's chipset and socket, with power supply its connectors (unless you use a mini-itx board this shouldn't be an issue) and wattage. Go a little higher than what your Graphics card recommends, just to factor in other components (multiple hardrives, RAM modules or and case fans for example, or many PCIe expansion cards) and for upgrade path.
For storage, I agree that if you are doing work, an SSD is great, but even better is an M.2 NvME. But they cost more so I would get a small one and only use this as a boot drive and for essential programs and projects.
And then take into account any PCIe expansion cards you may need, Rick, for example, used a fire-wire 800/400 card. I myself use a PCIe WLAN card to connect to wi-fi, since my PC is nowhere near my families modem.
Anyway I tried to cover just about every use case I could think of. Intel Core series CPU's still perform better in gaming, but AMD Ryzen is perfectly capable. But, Intel Core also tends to overclock better. Not that this necessarily matters. Just throwing it out there. AMD is still king of price/performance and generally delivers higher core counts as well.
My Specs:
Intel Core i7 6700k Quad Core @ 4.0GHz (OC'd to 4.7GHz)
EVGA 980 TI SC 6gb
Asus Prime Z170-E
RAM is 16Gb (2x8) 2666MHz
where is the I/O Shield
ooopss
I'm guessing it's a used motherboard and the seller forgot about the I/O shield. Not a big deal
it's pretty funny though.. I'm using a G4 450mhz (2001 computer) running Digital Performer 3.. I think it has like 700ish mb ram.. running OS9.. with MOTU 2408 + MidiExpress .. paid like $25 for the computer on CL.. +$150 for MOTU hardware.. TL;DR you do not need a monster computer to do audio.. and you DEFINITELY don't need new.. custom or premade..
audio has been easy for most computers for many years.. if you have the money, great, but if you're learning / on a budget.. just get something used / cheap.. I just bought a Macbook Pro i7 15" 2011 model for $250.. plenty of muscle for audio.. again Craigs list and that's here in Boston.. you can find great deals like that these days.. shop around and be smart about what you buy.
True. Yeah, I frowned a bit when he said 'you need at least 16GB of RAM' and whatever CPU he mentioned. Um, no, you totally don't. I have a fancy PC now, but like you say, PCs from quite a few years ago (which I also have) will run a ton of plugins/DAW/ReWire etc etc. without ever reaching their limits for most people. Having said that, an SSD is something that is well worth getting for any PC. I run a 2011 HP Elitebook 8760W in my studio and it kicks butt. You can pick one of the top-of-the-line ones up for about £300-350 on eBay.
still got the atari st... 1992
@@ashleywhiteman2684 IIRC isn't the Atari ST what Fatboy Slim uses?
If you're doing any sampling of any kind you need major hardware. Even if you're just trying to record very high bitrate audio you will need lots of RAM.
I agree with everything you said in this video, except for one thing: The amount of cores. There are a lot of today´s applications that do not actually support more than two cores - eventhough they say they do. I have a lot of top-of-the-line applications from cubase, to davince resolve, cinema 4D etc.. and there are only a few that truly support multicore rendering. When you use tools like istat-menus you can see the actual CPU and GPU usage and then you´ll find out how much potential of you machine goes unused because of improper application coding. But aside from that, all you said i totally agree with!!!
Great job, Rick. More on this kinda stuff. Debunk the myths. Apple is great, but it's got it's downsides as shown in all your vids. I am always ready for a new perspective and you sure make a compelling one here. Thank you.