The horrible truth about Apple's repeated engineering failures.
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2018
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1:01 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook GPU failures, warranty service refusal
2:21 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook Pro hinge/frame problem
3:16 - A1286 Macbook Pro - the "Unibody" myth, glued together pieces fall apart
4:58 - A1286/A1297 MCP power circuit failure due to poor buck converter design: C7771 issue
6:01 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail
7:12 - iPhone 5 power button problem
7:27 - A1286 2010 Macbook Pro GPU kernel panics due to same buck converter defect from 2008/2009(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products, same design flaw for three straight years)
10:04 - A1286 2011 Macbook Pro GPU failure, Apple gets sued over not addressing problem.
11:43 - Apple gives out badly refurbished boards as warranty replacements for 2011 GPU failures.
13:06 - 2012 Retina Macbook Pro: another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method on the GPU buck converter.
14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again).
16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue.
18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies.
20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue.
21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue.
22:50 - A1278 Macbook Pro SATA cable failures(yes, really).
For 10+ years Apple has produced failure after failure - and never had to pay the consequences. It's time that changed.
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What's the alternative then Louis? A WINDOWS laptop? Please, just no. It's only recently that linux destops have grown to provide a decent alternative and even they lack the smooth integration to the backups and media sources. Apple is not just a hardware producer, it produces an ecosystem that works far better than the competition. When it works.
@@dingdong2103 Wish linux laptops become a decebt and fast option one day. I don't want a laptop that i would want to get rid of 3 years later bcs of not enough performance for me 💀
This video, 3.5m views speaks the truth and still doesn’t have enough views it should.
@@texrot9781 you must not be married yet stay safe young person
@@barryoverson4988 Thanks kind sir
People on ebay seem to think that Apple products don't deprecate: 'I bought this iMac 5 years ago for £2,000. I spilled Starbucks on it so I'm only asking for £1,900'.
Lmaoo
But the spilled Starbucks would increase the value!!
If someone uses Starbucks and Apple positively in the same sentence avoid them at all costs
I recently went to eBay in hopes of replacing my deceased 2011 MacBook Pro. They were selling it for just as much as it would cost to buy a 2019 MacBook Pro. Madness.
JOEmega64 Buy a PC man, so much better
The People: "You're just selling us the same shit every year"
Apple: "Yes, but every year, it'll be a little more expensive"
and a little more broken
Apple fans: Shut up and take my money!
And every year you'll queue up 5 hours to buy new shit from us! ... so, why not?
And every year you'll buy it!
Because we are Apple and you will buy any shit we put on disply.
Reminds me of Nintendo fanboys saying "You're just using the sticks too hard" whenever someone complains about joy-con drift.
When the real issue is dust protection of the joycons
Ikr, what kind of a piece of shit controller breaks from regular use? Literally every controller I've ever had for any system, including other nintendo systems, lasts forever unless I drop them or lose them, I've used gamecube and xbox controllers so long that the rubber on the control sticks eroded away, but they still work! Meanwhile this Fisher-price trash joycon malfunctions within a few months. Ninty is really slipping, hopefully that class action lawsuit pays out soon
@@tongpoo8985 Fisher-price lmao. I think even Fisher-price products last longer
@@tongpoo8985 I got a lot of controllers. Some are even over 20 years old and they work like day 1. My Joycons on the other hand... They broke after a month of playing(I got bigger hands, the only controller that fits properly is the original duke controller for the OG Xbox)
Only an asshole gets emotionally attached to their purchases.
Back when 4G first came out, I specifically remembered when apple released The Apple IPHONE 3GS and people where lined up almost outside the Mall to get this "ALL NEW SMART PHONE" That was 3G capable, I was left scratching my head wondering why.....
as I walked in the opposite direction looking at all the Die-Hard Appletons, I held up my 4G Samsung Galaxy and kept repeating myself asking them: "ARE YOU NOT ALL AWARE 3G HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED BY 4G NOW? SAMSUNG HAD 4G PHONES OVER HALF A YEAR!!"
That was the moment I realized
How deep apples influence ran.
When a tech company can have customers lining up to buy yesterday's technology at Tomorrow's Prices is Nucking Futs
Your G’s are designed to control or kill you.
😂but 4g coming out that recent is completely useless since like 5G when it came out, their was barely any towers resulting in spotty signal
Guess what, nobodg gives a damn, it's tech - let people buy what they want not what you think is better. Sad how you believe tech companies define the who people are .
@@DanielTheMathematicianHow old are you? Do you know what a scam is? Do you understand the video or the comment?
@@lexluthor3811 Can't 4G enabled devices also use 3G, and 5G enabled devices use 3/4G too? Adding compatibility with promising nascent technologies to your devices is futureproofing, and it's great. I wouldn't judge someone who bought a new phone that wasn't compatible, but I'm gonna squint a little at a company who charge _a lot_ of money to their customers for regular upgrades not using the latest technology.
Other companies should adopt the slogan "don't think different, think better" just to piss apple off
#Don’tthinkdiffrent,thinkbetter
#dontthinkdifferentthinkbetter
Think different? Think better
or
Think different? Just think!
Knowing big companies like Apple, they would probably send a cease and desist for using those words in their own slogan lol
"They don't expect people to buy Apple products even after all their problems that they have, do they?" Yes... yes they do...
Apple.
Yesterday's technology
At tomorrow's prices
Mix in a little bit of 'courage' and you got a winner that will sell like hotcakes.
+ Ony stupid selfish egoist snob buy "less for more". All for public. The center of attention is cool for biznesmen or idiot.
Apple.
Last decade's technology
at next decade's prices.
Elfferich, "you're marketing skills" = "you are marketing skills"
I liked it, But then i removed the like. At this point you are at 666likes and i wanna leave it like this, so here is your like +1... Also i am getting a T-shirt with this on it.
Just watched this again in 2021.
Apple is even more successful than ever before. Why do Apple users keep forgiving this company?
It is hard to fathom for me.
They don't. Apple just keeps shaming them into it. It's like, "Heeey, you don't want everyone at Whole Foods to think you aren't keeping up with them ... do you? It would be a shame if , you know, you walked in with such an old phone. People might wonder if you only buy organic ... every now and then... Hmm We'll just mass text everyone and let them know you'll get your budget together soon, mmk ... maybe see if they can donate any spare charging cables and adapters since they won't need them ... ever."
Like how the majority of Muricans wants Trump to screw them over again in the presidential election of no one in the world cares of 2020.
Apple’s more successful because they finally made Mac’s worth buying for more than their first-party software. Questionable upgrade prices aside, their performance, engineering and value are leagues better than the dark ages of the mid-2010’s. (This is from a non-Mac guy)
My family’s been using Apple products for years, so all our photos, videos, documents, etc are stored in the Apple cloud; we’re basically having our data being held hostage, and that’s the reason my dad gives me whenever I propose a switch.
@@1337Superfly Not an easy switch if you're my parents I guess.
"And the issue here is that this one chip after it dies, will short a main power rail to ground."
I'm sorry, *what*?!
What kind of design is that? That's like if you designed a car fuel system that would randomly stop working, and when it stops working it would just ignite all the fuel in the tank.
"Think different."
How many Apple cult members does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, it's a proprietary light bulb only serviceable under the protection plan by a certified Apple Technician.
Siri wont laugth.
Oops your warranty has run out. Please buy an extension for $950
I'm sorry. Apple does not repair 'vintage' hardware. You'll have to buy a new house to put that light in.
@ Alan Rizkallah What certified Apple Technician ??? Are they really able to identify real malfunctioning issues, or are just there to swap components until it works again??? In that case, anyone can do that....Oh and don't even start me over the "Genius-es" at the Apple stores....I would just loooove to catch one and strangle him a little with one power cord from a macbook 2013 model, the MagSafe :-)))
Jokes aside, _Apple_ actually *is* a textbook totalitarian cult. Deliberately built this way using a cult-building manual. It's same as Scientology, probably inspired by it.
He manages to make a good amount of money repairing Apple products, but still he suggests every one to not buy Apple products. Huge respect for your dedication and the ethics you put on your job.
Basically liberals. “I hate Capitalism ! Support my small business though !” How do you hate he who gives you a job. If Apple didn’t exist Louis Rossman’s youtube career wouldn’t exist in the caliber that it’s in. Let’s be real. But just like it’s cool for a community to love Apple, this is a community where it’s cool to hate Apple. Ironically, they don’t understand that they’re on two different sides of the same obsessed coin.
@@patrickhenry1249 Why somebody would try to repair a product with no issues? That does not make sense :-D
@@KjvYaBoii you are a dickhead
big pp play
@@KjvYaBoii How fucking crazy obsessed are you that you took this to political and economic labels....capitalism vs yada yada yada. These are corporations, they manufacture goods and there is a predictable failure and defect rate of every part and a lifespan. These corporations, like Apple, mix and match their part selection to make their products disposable and short lived, many reaching obsolescence within a year of release. And Apple...Apple is special with this because they try to take COMMON technology, make it attractive to you so you buy it, even though it's more proprietary than a car(you technically don't even own the entire device, you're a licensee), so no one can touch them, like they're some kind of medical device manufacturer. They aren't selling you a product, they're selling you a business relationship with them, where so long as you have their product, you are stuck with them for maintenance and upkeep. And what better way to repeatedly pressure resale than to get you when you're vulnerable and without the device you crave connection to. This is what this man is showing you and folks get on here, though in small numbers, and try to talk about Apple being his paycheck...He's a electrical engineer idiots-he doesn't need a corporation, he has skills not tied to any single manufacturer. He's in insider trying to tell you you're sheep and MOST the things he's seen from Genius Bar and Geek Squad are freebie fixes so don't trust them. This isn't how free trade and capitalism are supposed to coexist, so why you would bring this to politics is beyond me. Apple is a prime example how Capitalism is NOT suppose to work in the US. Monopolies are supposed to be banned, huge corporations are not supposed to be allowed to control entire markets.
Many Apple flaws are there because management refuses to believe that a perfect company could possibly have a flawed product - you know. a cult. When I was working at Apple I found an obvious flaw and a simple fix for the iMac-7 fan control problem. It was huge electrical noise emissions from a poorly designed power supply distorting data on a nearby cable. "You're wrong. We have good power supplies" my boss said, totally ignoring the facts and evidence which I had found. I left that goofy place soon after. iMac-7 went into production, then all I read in user reviews were complaints about the fan.
Not my problem anymore.
Ur boss was just sucking his bosses dick. Don't take it personally. That's how it works in corporations. Its one big dick sucking fest
That actually makes sense. My dad's Macbook was under warranty for this graphics issue, and got a replacement board but failed a few months later
When you realize their a fashion company and not an electronic company it will all make sense.
Holy shit you're right
Its a luxury item made for degenerates
they’re*
The new iSock
Starting from $999999.99
when a fashion company releases a 6000u$s desktop cheese grater last year.
This is exactly why i always laugh at people, when they say: "Apple prices aren't so high for the brand name. It is their technology being so advanced."
Yeah.. very advanced. Advanced glue?
Yeah, their Mac software hasn't been really advanced either. I will agree that iOS is written in Objective C, so it consumes less RAM than android per app. But Linux, Windows, etc are all written in C, assembly and are highly optimized. Windows has better support and software availability than macOS
Mac OS doesn't have any "optimization". they keep changing their chip sets and have never supported graphics properly. Windows has proven to have better gaming performance and boot up times as well.
It's so bullshit that apple prevents their software (final cut Pro and others) from being used elsewhere, cuz it's one of the only reasons to buy their PC's anyways.
Shoe rubber is some high tech shit.
Actually, a lot is laptops from lenovo and dell are similarly priced, in my country apple is cheaper compared to xps or thinkpad
@@arunthebuffoon4554 Advanced rubber shoe
@@adwaitsharma6915 Yeah, I have a Lenovo and it's much cheaper than Apple, works better too.
I've been an Apple customer for years, but after discovering your channel I can confidently say I will never purchase any Apple product again. I knew they were shady, but wtf
But what will you buy instead. The other ones are even worse
@@Nooely framework
@@Nooely its not a coincidence that dumb women and kids prefer Apple products
Yeah. The trouble is, they cost so much more. It makes this shady behaviour much harder to swallow.
@@Nooely 🐑🐑🐑
My HP laptop had 2 drinks spilled on it, was in a house fire and got hosed down, dropped down the stairs while on, and managed to last 10 years. The screen backlight would eventually start to flicker occasionally, or not turn on with the laptop itself after 8 years. Recently, when I tried to get something from it, after 12 years, it finally wouldn't boot. It was a 540$ machine and it served me very well for a long time. And even spent years of its life playing games, working hard.
I have a samsung notebook that my parents gave to me in 2011. It was slow already in 2011, with a simple pentium dual core and 4 gigs of ram. I remember the laptop struggled to run cs go but I still gamed a lot in it. I did everything I could so I could use it far beyond its potential. I have a picture using an external monitor, cooler, external mouse and keyboard, headphones etc and there I was happy as I could be. I eventually upgraded to 8 gigs of RAM and put an SSD on it and it still works perfectly whilst being almost 10 years old. I just recently opened it to clean it and it's still a laptop I use just to watch videos or something
I've also got a HP laptop that was puchased before my daughter was born. Shes 10 now, and that cheap laptop still works fine.
I've heard a story of a person accidentally dropping their Lenovo Thinkpad from the rafters of a stage. They picked it up and it was still running, no damage other then some scuffs. with a macbook the screen would probably be separated from the computer.
Ok. But it isn't said that a Mac can't do the same. I have been an Apple user since the Apple II which my father brought home. And i have never had any issues with any Mac i purchased. And i purchased a lot of Apple products over time (several releases and sizes in iMac's, several releases and sizes in MacBook and MacBook Pro's, several releases and sizes iPhones and iPads). And i even own a 12 inch MacBook 2017 with butterfly keyboard which i use daily and no issues with the butterfly keyboard. So having an HP, Samsung or Lenovo does not mean that they can't have similar issues as well. Ok, Apple could have handled warranty and service better. But it is often also Apple bashing by mainly Windows users who never even used an Apple device. And my girlfriend has had many Windows notebooks by Acer, Asus, HP and Lenovo. And they all had issues. I installed Windows on a 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch for my girlfriend which runs a lot faster with Windows then any Windows notebook from that time and over time there is always the issue that Windows will start to run slower. And she can't figure out how macOS works which is a lot easier to use than Windows IMHO. But Windows users are so stuck in the Windows way of working that they can't figure out how to work with macOS. I can do both but i ditched Windows years ago. Because despite all the Apple bashing Windows still sucks when you use it over a longer period of time. It gets slower. And macOS just does not. So every manufacturer be it hardware or software has faults. Not only Apple but also HP, Samsung, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etcetera. And some of these companies also lack in warranty and service.
When they start manufacturing quantities in the millions, there must be some kind of cap or curve that shows what percentage of these products will fail over time or in specific parts. My guess is both PC and APPLE are obligated to a kind of CHAOS function that results in failures at a certain percentage. You make billions of M&Ms and maybe ther'll ba a percent of packets with all geens, all reds etc., and all else ok. But with pcs and macs, with thousands of parts (thousands of m&ms in one machine, that failure rate soon appears). I've used APPLE since the original mactintosh. Only recently since 2017, have I started seeing these types of failures. My next machine will be a Dell or Lenovo? and will compare. While traveling in Asia, I dropped my iphone 7 on cobblestone in the RP, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF sidewalk repair setups for pc's, cellphones, gaming hardware in the philippines. Took my iphone there asked for a price, $25 to replace screen 3rd party, $45 for new Apple screen. Not bad I thought and I didn't bargain. Iphone still works. My Huawei is also still solid, but Android sucks is all I can say about that.
Seriously, there was a CNBC or abc or something news story where they went into an apple store to get a MacBook repaired, and the dude said something about water damage, then said they’d need to charge $1100 for repairs and $100 in labor, and $600 to reset the sensors or something
They took it down the road to a repair shop and the dude bent a pin and it worked just fine
oooohhhh, you will never believe just WHO was that dude)
Here is the link in case you are interested)
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Who fixed it was rossman lol
it's in the same channel you are watching this video from
That dude was this dude dude :p The dudest of all dudes
Imran Hossain I figured that out like a week later
That was Rossman. I saw the same news story too.
Person at an ant trap: Pfff how could ants fall for something so obvious?
At mouse trap: how are mice so stupid?
At bear trap: Really, Bears? Come on!
Person: *Ooh boy! The new iPhone 37!*
Truly underrated comment.
Don't insult the animals like that. At least the food could've been useful for their survival!
😂
@Aran Rasekhi shut up stoopid kid, ur live is prety sad by havin only Apple...
Still having issues with my iphone x after it's been 'repaired' at apple. Random, very rapid 'ghost touches' all over the screen as well as not responding until I forcefully press at the very bottom of the screen. Guess I didn't learn from when my 2012 macbook pro used to burn my wrist when typing...
“It’s not a bug, it’s a feature”
-Internet Historian (probably)
customer: " OH MY GOD! my macbook pro for 3000€ start overheating and i saw some smoke too! "
Apple: So buy a new one right?
customer" : yea thanks Apple, i lowe u.
bro you look like hawkeye
@@shahtayyib hawkeye look like me
Apple repaired all 2009 models with the Glue issue for free, also unhinged displays.
Dont believe everything you hear online.
@@Batsot You may have forgotten to mention that this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN for the price tag of 3000 dollars.
@@Batsot why should i believe you then lmao
They said "think different"
Not "think logically"🤣
whereas pc users don't think at all.
@@elkiddo1114 Because they don't need to, since they build their own machines.
@@Larry82ch Dude,
We are in agreement, they don't think at all.
@@elkiddo1114 Apple users don't have the intelligence to avoid Apple products. Their cognitive abilities are just below not thinking at all.
@@Larry82ch Dude,
Really? Why does Best Buy sell already put together PCs eh dingleberry?
This is truly an age of chosing which company would you like to be screwed with. You put your faith in one company hoping they don't screw you up that bad compared to other companies
I'm 45, I have never owned anything made by Apple and it will stay that way.
Same age and same situation. ;)
Maybe "only" 29 now, but same, never, and ever. In fact, I've been more and more getting into Linux and I'm so proud I do so the more I see these things.
The worst part of all of this is not Apple's faulty designs or engineering errors, not even the way they treat their customers, late recalls and GPU warranty fixes only if the machine boots, but the fact that other companies are copying both the shitty designs and the shitty behaviour of Apple, spreading the cancer across the whole consumer electronic product segments. No EOM spares, no recalls, and a "it should last only 2 years" mentality. Apple is dangerous for us repairers and for all the segment everywhere. Support the right to repair. Support freedoom.
Apple fanboys are coming lol
Exactly, and to go even further: Every industry, even before Apple was around, takes advantage of the system they run on. Freedom of choice is always there, but the obstacles to get started or even survive with a new/competing product are stifling (cable industry comes to mind). We can pass the blame around to whomever, the point is there is always this problem, and I'm with Louis about looking into solutions. Not just for consumer electronics, but business- and customer-handling as a whole.
The new XPS from Dell are designs rip off of Dell and are actually better XD However, no matter how much you prove, you come out with fact, you do whatever logics you want, the power of Apple's marketing and brand will always shade this. Making people think they have the best product is more powerful than having the best product overall. And I agree with you and since I, being myself an independent technician, refused to work on Apple products my life has got easier.
Luckily, certain countries (like Norway) have laws that protect customers from the "it should last only 2 years" mentality (to a certain degree) Here's a direct excerpt from The Consumer Purchases Act in Norway:
"If an item is defective, the consumer must, within a reasonable period of time after he or she discovered or should have discovered the defect, notify the seller that he or she intends to submit a formal complaint with respect thereto. The deadline for submitting a complaint can never be shorter than two months from the point at which the consumer discovered the defect.
Any complaint must be submitted no later than two years after the consumer took possession of the item. If, when in normal use, the item or any part thereof is meant to last substantially longer, the deadline for submitting a complaint is five years. This does not apply as long as the seller, by means of a guarantee or other agreement, has assumed liability for defects over a longer period."
Phones and laptops are actually examples of items that are meant to last longer than two years. So you have 5 years protection against defects (like some of those Rossmann mentioned in the video)
I think that's pretty awesome.
Thankfully we can build our own PCs so at least Windows/Linux users don't have to put up with shitty company policies. And if you can afford an expensive laptop, then you have the option of getting a customisable Clevo laptop (or equivalent) from a reputable computer store.
1:01 - 2008 Macbooks with hinge problem.
5:00 - Capacitor that would fail to provide power to GPU because it's not supposed to be used with AC.
6:10 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail
7:10 - iPhone 5 power button problem.
7:27 - Another MBP Problem with GPU failure, due to came capacitor that was causing problem on a 2008 model.
(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products.)
11:04 - Result of the GPU/display problem, Apple getting lawsuit'd.
11:45 - apple giving out refurbished boards as warranty.
the boards given out by apple as warranty replacement has signs of rework/soldering on them.
13:07 - Another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method.
14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again).
16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue.
18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies.
20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue.
21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue.
Lord's work
cheater00 and yet at Apple there isn't much of a choice either.
People don't know because they don't look for it, even this video can't so nothing for them.
But by any means:
- Any Dell XPS from 2015 to 2018
- Any Thinkpad really
- Matebook pro for the style obsessed ;)
Etc.
the problem is, every other manufacturer is making almost same shit designs that it feels like that they purposely doing this so that units will fail after couple of years. You cant possibly show any better alternatives to people unless we were in 2010..
Any brand that makes though (do actually works forna long years) laptops or phones already get bankrupt and erased from history.
I highly recommend you to read brave new world. Because this is how new world order looks like.
cheater00 // don’t trust apple hardware. That’s why I buy anything else that are compatible with hackintosh
You missed out the massive problem of retina MBPs having their anti-reflective coating peel off and look absolutely horrible, and still not being fixed 5 years later. The screen replacement program has been running since 2015, it's insane
The true geniuses at Apple aren't their engineers. it's their PR department that has the geniuses
I really appreciate your honesty, professionalism, detailed presentations, and aptitude for furthering your skills. Those are all traits that I aspire to emanate from my work.
Apple is a marketing company, not a tech company
Apple Inc. is an American multinationaltechnology company headquartered in Cupertino, California, that designs, develops, and sells consumer electronics, computer software, and online services. Wikipedia
@@Almin88
The joke
Your head
@@Almin88 r/whoosh
+OrangeOctopus Clearly you do not think differently...
OrangeOctopus clearly you are susceptible to their marketing
remember when Apple's slogan was "does more, costs less"?
More like the opposite
@@marinap5345 yep costs more does less and lasts half as long
No lol
Lmao wtf time has really changed that
it think depends where u r from, in my country iphone 6s+ (which i have rn) costs 620$ meanwhile in usa iphone 11 is nearly the same bruh nice economy
Apple makes a great operating system. The best part of Apple is that it’s based off of Unix. For a closer version of Unix install home brew. One of the things I truly love about Apple is mission control. I’ve tried Windows task viewer and I really don’t like it with dual monitors. I still don’t like their hardware and I’m still using a Mac mini 2011 and a MacBook Pro 2012 because I don’t like their soldered ram or soldered SSD. They could have easily upgraded the removable ram on the Mac mini to potential 64 gigs of ram and kept the two bays for 2.5 inch drives or added m.2 SSD dockets, but no they want to make their machines in fixable so if the ram or ssd go back a whole logic board has to be replaced. The best Macs are the hackintosh ones, although there days maybe numbered with the ARM processor design.
Apple doesn't make thier own OS. OSX and iOS are based on FreeBSD. It's a split of the code that they keep updating with new features as FreeBSD releases them then drops their own features on top of. They write a pretty wrapper for it and add in some proprietary stuff on top. The core OS, Apple has never written. Just get that out of your head right now. Apple hasn't written an OS in decades. What Apple creates are what Linux people would call Distributions. A lot of the big under the hood advances come from FreeBSD, not Apple. Here's the real kicker though. All those proprietary Apple connections. Apple HAD to write those themselves. FreeBSD comes out of the box with support for all the industry standards. To create all those things Apple had to set out with the goal of not using standards they already had all the work done for them on and decide to create those proprietary Apple products just to screw customers. It gets worse. Apple purposely removed shell access from the consumer so consumers could not go in and reenable FreeBSD features Apple didn't want them to have. Say what you want about Microsoft. They've expanded shell access. Apple straight up removes it.
@@halycon404 No wonder why homebrew is so popular. Yeah I definitely need to play more with Powershell on Windows. If windows could only something better for dual monitors like apple does mission control I think I would use windows more. I would love for microsoft and Linux to beat Apple. I haven't played with FreeBSD except of course the little bit on Apple. I have played with the Raspberry Pi 4 for of Debian Im not sure how that compares to Debian. One of the great things about Linux is that you can run it on practically any hardware. There is no you have to get a new phone or a new computer with pure Linux.
@@jonny777bike Android is based on Linux. There's a low spec mode to turn off all the pretty graphical party tricks and some of the bells and whistles. In which case it runs on anything, it's also more stable than the full feature version we use. For pure usability us rich folks chasing the newest and best phones get the worst version. There's a reason Android phones pretty much have 90% of the global market. Apple is only a concern in the richest countries. There's entire continents where Apple is less than 1%. Globally Google and Microsoft won the consumer space, it isn't even close. And Linux won in server space, even Microsoft runs a lot of its infrastructure on Linux.
This is eye-opening, thank you. Most importantly, also giving advice on what laptops outperform Apple's ones in terms of hardware quality and longevity, would be very very helpful.
I've had a pretty deep hatred of Apple ever since a malfunctioning Mac caused me to fail my multimedia final (which was 50% of my grade) in high school. "You probably did something wrong." my Apple fanatic friend says as they place their smashed screen iPhone on my coffee table before bending down to search between the carpet fibers for the $300 airpods they dropped.
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You did do something wrong. You didn't shove the Mac up your friend's ass like they deserve one-another!
Did you hold down the GPU constantly even though it’s not supposed to come off? No? Well, then that’s your fault.
In all seriousness, this is horrible. Absolute bullshit. Making money is more important than someone’s future, apparently.
@@Pigninjius "It Just Works!"
Remember that?
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Apple breaks their users hands just so they can hold their phone.
Apple users: "harder, and break my legs while you're at it."
I know I’m late to the game as this was posted 4 years ago, but it was a shocking eye-opener. I’ve been a Mac guy for a couple decades and will find it difficult to ween myself from the eco system. I have owned some of those units without failure and have owned others and experienced those failures.
Will definitely hesitate before my next purchase and will take a look at your suggested list of well build machines.
The amount of expertise that you demonstrate in your videos is amazing
I grew up using Apple's products. Through high school I was that kid arguing with my friends over mac vs. windows. Now in my 30's, I switched to windows three years ago and haven't looked back. Thanks for telling it like it is.
S4nari I had a similar arguments of Motorola vs Apple. I miss my little flip phone Motorola. That sucker lasted me 3 years and still worked like brand new, despite being thrown, dropped, and rough handled.
I'd settle for macOS (A certified UNIX operating system) over Windows any-day of the week. Thankfully, I can build a Hackintosh and run macOS on decent hardware. Apple really needs to correct its hardware path.
Agreed.
Apple use to be great machines. I have such fond memories of my Apple II. But that Apple is long gone.
@Evi1M4chine These are all the apple hardware products I've ever used: Macintosh Plus, Macintosh II, iBook, first-generation iPod, Original iMac, Power Mac G4, PowerBook G4 12", iPod touch, MacBook Air, Ipad, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, ipod Nano, Iphone 6, Ipad Pro. Not listed here is the multitude of mac only software that went along with these machines including things like Final Cut Pro. So yeah, I have experience with their products, both currently and throughout the companies history. Nothing in my comment would suggest that I confuse software and hardware, I've used it all since the late 80's. The pricing of their products are not justified by the return of any extra processing power or availability of exclusive software. Also, being able to run one OS on the other machine is irrelevant.
I have a cheap 4-5 years old HP laptop that I dropped a few times, spilled water on it's keybord, and it works absolutely fine like new
That's why HP isn't worth $900bn. When HP also start to make crappy products and charging twice the price - then their stocks will sky rocket
@@lookoutforchris whats cost of ownership?
I have Asus k55vd which is 9 years old and still running. All i did was i have changed hdd to ssd and added a bit of RAM. Epic laptop
My mother had her HP laptop for over 10 years and had to stop using it only because the performance was getting too low.
Tbh I had an HP 10 years ago and it died hard due to a motherboard failure. I'm not fond of HP all that much any more.
i still cant believe that in response to someone telling him that the antenna stopped working when they held their phone steve motherfucking jobs was just like "uhhh... have you tried Not holding it like that?"
Watched it 2 years ago and it was recommended again....even better the second time around .
That capacitor is not a bug, it's a feature. For them.
Surprise Mechanics
@@imdone8243 Lmfao
Pull that out of your ass did you?
@@elkiddo1114 I meeeaan... It is getting apple money. And apple isn't fixing it. Soooo. Yeah he's pretty much correct.
@@Hexcede Dude,
Dude, the earth isn't flat. deal with it
I came here to see a fully adult guy saying happy, sad for 1 minute
worth
Totally worth it.
Lmao
*Best one minute of my life*
@@indonesia8394 I agree.
Hi Louis! Thank you for the video. My main problem in the way of switching back to Windows is that a LOT of my workflow speed relies on the Macbook’s gestures and multi-desktop features. Thankfully my late 2013 Macbook Pro is still very alive, but I’m well aware it won’t last even close to forever. Is there a way to have a Windows machine copy those functions?
"The problem stands with the circular form factor. They struggle to figure out which side to make thinner" -sofila
What an absolute legend, I'm dying
Pffff, it’s fine. My 4s still runs at 2FPS, has a battery life of 7 minutes, and only dies at 100%
Lol, it's that true 🤣
Yo I used to have a 4s it had all of those issues
Oh, and the screen is starting to fry itself and darken at the same time
My 3 year old iPhone 7 literally has a battery life of 7 minutes and dies at 100% all the time too, so I felt that
@@chrisjklofton They are called "features"
To be clear, none of that are faulty product, error, or mistake. All of that are feature, feature whose sole purpose is to make more money for stakeholder. And it work beautifully.
Elepole Eolis good ole Bethesda excuse except it works for them lol
Lol only apple could sell a product with a fatal flaw and call it a feature. I know your just making fun of them but honestly they could probably legitimatelly tell people its a feature and they would buy it knowing its going to break and tell all their friends "its just a feature" lol.
Per Karlsson I think you have your time off a little bit, I think you mean 10+ months, unlike many competitors that last around an average of 5 years based on either user error, the screen hinges breaking, or just simply becoming outdated.
Per Karlsson tell that to my friend that have speaker problem on his macbook only in his 2nd year of usage
I trust Louis Rossmann and Linus Tech Tips, It is great that you have had a good user experience and your devices are still fine I am truely happy for you but I'll never get one based off the vast majority of poor owner experiences both from what I have read and seen online via credible sources like LTT and LR but also from friends and their experiences.
All of my friends that once were Apple fanatics have since moved to Android and Windows based products many years ago. Usually just 1 owner experience is all it took them to make the switch.
There is no reason for Apple to make their batteries "non replaceable" at all other than to intentionally make the product performance decline so you buy a new phone. Just a small example of their b.s. they pull.
I was an unlucky user of a macbook pro from 2008. Spent a lot of money on it, died after not even a year because of the failure you described. They run this Apple tool to verify the logic board failure without success (didn't even turn on), so they wanted me to pay for the repair. I am Italian and bought it in Italy, where the rules protect the consumers more than in the USA. After calling Apple (at my expenses cause their customer service was also extremely expensive to call) and bothering the shop where I bought it, I managed to let it fix it thought warranty.
Needless to say, never bought an Apple product since.
I once worked in a call centre (tech team) for a British ISP.
We had a code for Update for the IPhone OS.
The call flow increased by around 2 fold at least, once see it go up to around 4-5 fold.
Less the quarter of the Clients used apples products.
"modeled after an air filter"
That's a trash can my dude
Yep, that's that we called it at my various jobs....trash can Macs. It was probably one of the worst designs for a computer. In a professional rack mount environment, you can imagine how the trash can Mac would fit in or wouldn't ...and it didn't. We had to sit them on rack mount shelves, taking up much more room in the rack then it should. Had to design/get... custom made rack mount hardware for them, sometimes. This is what I thought and said when they came out first...what was Apple thinking when they conjured up this design? The rest of Apple product lines through out the years were never a cup of my tea anyway....design and reliability -wise. They are totally out of the server business now...remember the X-Serve?
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@@MegaSunspark tell me of computers with good software too also please? I have people that I have to stop from forcing me to have Macs!!
@@pgum123gonowplayread4 Try out Linux Mint, or Ubuntu, those are decent
MegaSunspark Probably because Apple is so obsessed with the “form over function” BS.
And Apple's LATEST engineering failure is putting an Intel Core i9 in a thin 2018 MacBook Pro. Cooling is so poor that the i9 can't even maintain its BASE clock speed under heavy load due to thermal throttling. This means the premium you pay for the i9 gives you LESS performance than the i7 version in some cases!
YEAH! The last masterpiece.
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Its not actually the core i9 that is getting to hot, but the driver chips that provide the power to the i9 cpu, and that is why this macbook is throttling down the speed, those chips can't compete with the "power hungry" i9 chip, so the chip doesn't receive its full power because the drivers are boiling themselves of the board, this macbook will die in about 13 to 14 months, and many will think it is a dead cpu while the actual problem are those boiling driver chips, and these chips are made by apple and nobody can provide those, so apple has made a unfixable machine again that will fail in a very short amount of time, unless repair shops can get their hands on donor boards, but the i9 model is simply to new
kevin12567 ya the i9 is something that would be used in a desktop because it needs a water cooling system
and thats what they were working on for 2 years
you don't need water cooling for an i9, matter of fact is that air coolers are actualyl better for cooling, water cooling is actually less efficient than air cooling, it's just quieter.
Great video! I am extremely lucky - I’ve never had an Apple device fail on me! However … my first Mac was the “MacBook Pro Mid 2012 unibody non-retina” - about the *only* one without hardware design flaws (except thermal). Thermal paste + fan control is the first app I ever install. 4TB SSD! Also, MBP 17” 2009 secondhand, $50 and a proper cap from your website. And MBP 17” mid-2012 (home-made), and iPhone 4S, 5S, 6s, 8. Won’t buy anything newer than Unibody mi$-2012 and iPhone 8 Plus. Keep up the good work and #RightToRepair!
Everytime I see a brand new Mac and think for a second on getting it as my next laptop I remember! Apple is full blown anti consumer and needs to be stoped! It's time (it is way overdue) to regulators step up
Can you explain how?
@@OG_Gyekye Literally watch the fucking video
@@trugictra I did and didn’t understand so why can’t you explain?
@@OG_Gyekye they make products that are counter intuitive and literally break themselves while you use them. they often fuck their customers over with bad support and often set very tight criteria as to when you're eligible to send their shit back
@@trugictra is their any proof of this? I need to know cause from the videos I’ve see. They’ve given proof and I just want to under if there’s any proof on the other side before I make my final decision
As an electronic design engineer I was looking at Apple in 1976 when they introduced the Apple 1 computer. I thought then it was a product that had potential but was poorly designed. My problem with Apple even then was their business practices and the way they treat their customers. They have a reputation for screwing their customers with high prices and producing products with a built-in limited life span and are also closed systems to make you buy the next generation of product from them when the product dies or becomes obsolete. People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics. Even when screwed by Apple they just continue to buy their crap for extremely high prices. I don't understand their thinking but it is their money to spend any way they like. I refuse to ever buy an Apple product from 1976 till today.
So...43 years ago..in the absolute infancy of personal computers, you thought that the Apple 1 computer had potential but was poorly designed? You were one of the people that was able to get your hands on one of the 200 units made and critiqued its design? What experience did you have in personal computing did you have at this time? Or..did you just look at a picture of the machine? "People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics." LMAO. Is that your statement? Funny..most people buy these devices because they don't..and don't want to understand electronics. They just want a device that works smoothly. They want to turn it on and use it. Which is exactly what Apple provides. This is why people keep buying Apple products...I don't understand how you can have any idea what it is like to own an apple product if you never have had one? How did you know how they treat their customers? I will tell you this. When my son was in college we offered to buy him a mac desktop..he wanted a PC. We advised against it but he insisted he wanted a PC. We bought him a Dell Inspiron. As far as I could tell he never had a problem with the hardware..but he was constantly dealing with malware and virus's. People are willing to pay more for a product that works. Back in the day I had a Dell, Packard Bell and IBM desktops. I liked them at the time. After I bought my first iMac I was hooked. Everything just worked flawlessly. No virus's no problems. I have had 2 iMacs, 3 ipads, 5 iphones, apple TV, apple watch, two macbook pros, ipods, ipod shuffle and a time capsule. The only problems I had were..the first iMac, hard drive failed after 9 years. Apple replaced it at the Apple store for just the cost of the part. My time capsule had multiple hard drive failures. Great product idea but I had a lot of problems with it. See, unlike you I don't care what anyone else buys..I buy what works for me. According to your summation you make me out to a crazy person. Why? Again, if you have never bought an Apple product how can you tell people what that experience is like? So..people that buy PC's and Android products understand electronics and aren't crazy? lol. You see, I can only tell you about my experiences. You talk about products having a built in limited life span? What consumer electronics product doesn't? One last point...everyone that has a smartphone now has more information on it than at home. With that being said, Android is so far below Apple in data safety it is not even in the same universe. Which is part of the reason the android platform is much more customizable. I still get a kick out of reading that you don't like the way Apple treats there customers..lol...saying that and NEVER having owned an Apple product. So..you just read what other people say and make it gospel? BTW..I was 16 in 1976..how old were you?
@@kevinshea5819 are you criticizing an electronic engineer? I can't stop laughing, a simple customer who says at an engineer how he should see things/products with a critical eye... You wrote something unreadable for how long It Is, just to say to an engineer "you didn't have the instruments to see the product properly", well guess what, you surely don't have and Will never have the critical eye the engineers have 'cause you don't want to criticize what you have a feeling for. It doesn't exist you can even think to tell to an engineer how he should see the products/things cause your blindness Is the cause Apple does shitty quality products, and since they know It's their weak point, they take advantage of conditions in their warranty programs to screw the the customer (you). This type of people doesn't demonstrate coherence to criticize someone else's thinking, so live in your Little world and shut up! You have what you deserve; pay a lot to solve nothing, but leave in peace Who doesn't want to do the same.
Anto G Well as a PhD candidate in engineering at an R1, I can assure you that OP is full of BS. Steve Wozniak is a genius and revolutionized the personal computer using innovative circuitry with the Apple I and some Atari games. You can hate Apple today but saying the Apple 1 was poorly designed makes 0 sense. If that was the case Apple would have never grown as it did. Furthermore, a ton of innovation with the GUI and usability happened on the mac.
It’s one thing to disagree with the direction Apple took or dislike their current hardware, but denying the impact it had is a whole new level of BS hating.
@@diverman1023 don't make confusion, i'm an engineer and i lived the transformation of seeing something with "new eyes". I replied to the post in which someone who demonstrates to don't have the instruments to criticize products (the customer "eye") tells to someone who can have the instruments to see critically "you're wrong, i'm right", asking about the age and other things which are useless in this topic (attacking firstly the person, not what have been added to the discussion). This Is the attitude which create confusion. You've done the right thing; in synthesis you said: "i don't share what Richard said cause i see those things which make me say that It was well designed." There was an argumentation and you did It without attacking the person, this Is how a constructive discussion Is. Also you replyed to something old (Apple I), i was talking about something newer (post 2008), so don't make confusion; about Apple I, talk directly to Richard, about Apple post 2008 i can participate to the discussion, about what i've said to Kevin don't name Apple cause the subject was the attitude to demonstrate a critical thinking, which Kevin doesn't have; the fact It was defending Apple was a plus, if he tried to defend another brand in the same way i could write something very similar.
@@diverman1023 anyway, what today happens demonstrates that the consensus doesn't come only After quality, so i can say that the reasons Apple has grown so much aren't only in the potential of the Apple I (also because all the big party people who didn't help Apple to grow up, i don't remember specifically the names of the the reference of the PC market, but i remember that most of them didn't accept to help Apple, cause they also didn't see sufficient potential in their project). I don't think these people were stupids and i understand what Richard could have think: something these big names could have think also. So, Apple surely had success but the reasons aren't so simple to find and understand...
A similar thing happened with my old iphone 5. In early 2015 Apple's newest software update BRICKED my phone, and when I took it in to get it repaired, not only did they FORGET I was there after I had been forced to make an APPOINTMENT and had reminded them I was there multiple times over the HOUR that I had to sit there (they literally were closing the store, turning off the lights with me being the ONLY PERSON still sitting there in the MIDDLE OF THE STORE), but when I called someone over, he said they needed to run tests on it. I told him I'd already tried taking it to a 3rd party repair shop and knew what the issue was because it was fairly widespread, but he said company policy required that they run a test via the phone. I told him the phone wouldn't turn on, and he insisted that they had to run the test on it. 15 minutes later he comes back and says that they can't run the test on the phone because it won't power on (he said this as if I wasn't aware of that), and that because they can't run the test, they won't be able to do anything to fix it. I didn't even have the option to PAY to get it repaired. He said I would just have to buy a new phone. I asked to speak to the manager, he said the manager had already left because the store was closed. He acted like I had shown up at the last second unannounced, as opposed to, you know, sitting there for over an hour with my thumb up my ass trying to get help. I looked him in the face and said "what you're telling me right now is that BECAUSE the phone is broken, your policy PREVENTS you from fixing it. Does that make any sense to you?" He replied "if you want to buy a new phone now, I can take $20 off of an otter box case because you had to wait a little bit longer (yes, he had the BALLS to say "a little bit longer") but that's about the best I can do."
I looked him dead in the face and said "No thanks, I'll just get an Android."
It's been 5 years and I've never once looked back. Android. For. Life.
Good on you for having the courage to say that.
Cool story. Fuck Apple
Lets fucking go, yessir!
@@Pigninjius Honestly it was more like blind rage than courage.
I had the exact same experience as you at apple store and like you i went to samsong but about a year later the phone didn't want to charge so went back to the store kind of upset but the saleman said it couldn't be fixt so he just give me a new one
My 2016 Macbook pro had both of the issues you mentioned: both the shitty keyboard that continuously fails (replaced with an identical one) and the battery that started swelling after ~4 years. Swelling batteries are a fire hazard, to add insult to injury. I thought that was a rare occurrence and that I'd just been unlucky, so I'm happy to learn that it's apparently a common issue with this model.
Now this is quality content
Unlike apple's.
Andre Gon oof
the type of content Apple haters fap too.
‘Cheaply built’ ok, like my lovely plastic dell which shredded my DVD while I typed on it because there was no material between the keyboard and the optic drive. Your argument seems to be simply that Apple products are flawed, and it takes longer than seems necessary to amend the design flaws. I feel your pain, but honestly, I find this is just a growing trend, electronics are today’s version of expensive disposable cameras. Dell, HP, Apple, Samsung. All very flawed and designed to fail. They want you to buy a new one in 2-3 years. And... honestly, by then you wouldn’t really want to still be using the machine as it will be reliant on what is now outdated tech. If you analyze the circuits in any modern product, you will find many flaws. At the end of the day, there has to be such a thing as ‘good enough to ship’. They can’t spend 5 years designing and perfecting the next model, they come out every 6 months anymore. I work in IT, and I know as well as you do; if none of this stuff ever broke down, we wouldn’t have a job. Under HEAVY use, I literally EXPECT failure:
Monitors max 5 years
Mouse/keyboard 1 year
Desktop 2-3 years
Laptop 1.5 years major repair, 3 years salvage/dead
Hard drive 2 years tops
SSD 2-3 years maybe
Bottom line is unless you are babying machines, they will break simply from use and wear. In a busy work environment, the data and continued productivity is crucial and downtime or lack of machines far outweighs the comparably small size of doing some repairs or even replacing a batch of machines. Perfect machines that never fail just wont happen.
thejpkotor Dell is the only manufacturer worst than Apple. Get yourself a quality Asus laptop. I still have one running strong since 2010. The battery died sometime ago but that’s expected.
It's not incompetence. It's planned obsolescence.
Just like the phone slow down because of batteries and bricking phones with replacement screens. They make their products obsolete long before they should be.
Noble1xCarter I get the sentiment, but objectively, it's literally the same thing.
planned obsolescence usually occurs shotly after warranty end, with a lot of theese issues here it was 2-6 weeks after purchase
lacucaracha111111 true but considering how much cash Apple has I highly doubt that they didn't notice any of these problems while in testing, the only answer is that they purposefully let this stay.
Erick J. An Android phone keeps getting updates from the company that made it for 3-4 years, which I admit is less then Apples phones but considering how big the Android community is you can install the new version of Android if you want. Phones like the Nexus 4 and 5 are still being updated my fans in the community.
Im interested what they messed up since 2018. How about an update?
I used to work in SMT assembly and did some rework jobs - that reworked board would've been the star of our monthly scrap report wall of shame.
Don't forget that Apple also owns Beats by Dre. Known for their bad (for the price range) audio quality and absolutely terrible durability.
The Chillmaster That is true, but even still. When a reviewer gets a pair of beats headphones, they almost always say it has that "beats sound" (not really a good thing, but it might suit some people's taste) and they recommend to be careful with them since the headphone band can't bend much. In my opinion, beats still need a hardware redesign/boost.
They kind of inherited that problem though
they could try and fix it
Quality is not bad (I've got Beats solo) but they definitely overpriced. No microphone (they're not full headset) it's something they do not advertise. It just uncomfortable when somebody is calling...
The Chillmaster they only got better because as time passes,audio quality gets better. Not because Apple is any good. Any company's headphones get better sound quality for the price as time passes.
I think Apple has mastered the Stockholm syndrome ability
People have simply become stupid and lost their ability to think critically.
It's in most parts of the world right now, people think the earth is flat, people think religion is real, people think aliens are amongst us, some people think they should storm Area 51 because "they have aliens there".. People aren't smart.
Puro Area 51 is just a meme - or is it not?
@@OriginalPuro
Your first sentence (or it's second half) is correct. But later...
Except "area 51" is nothing but a running joke, as are the aliens, religion is very real as it always has been, Earth may, or may not be flat - as a common person, you cannot prove either way.
In conclusion, you are the one not sounding very smart mate. Sort yourself out.
AmIgOltu lmao you just fit his description of a fucking tard
@@Gyvulys As a Common man, i can look out the window of an airplane and see the curve of the world, so regardless of if its a sphere or not, it is NOT flat.
great delivery on your posts. sounds like you were born for this role. happy that almost everyone here likes you.
I really enjoyed this video format!
As if apple fans would be able to comprehend any of what this means
I'm not an apple fan and I barely understand what it means xD
Then again, I did watch the video on 2X speed so that miiiight have had something to do with it.
@@darrenwalsh5030 don't watch videos in 2x if ur brain can't handle lmao
@@pocketanime Most videos are fine to watch in 2x, but sometimes the speaker talks in a way that doesn't translate well to faster speeds.
Also it was roughly around midnight so sleep fatigue doesn't help either.
Ok
You give me r/imverysmart vibes
Finally, someone who doesn't just bash Apple mindlessly, but with some facts to back it up. Thumbs up!
Yes! This is a message I can get behind.
If I see any Apple fanboys I can send them here and watch their brains melt from through the Interwebs.
You dont need to be a wiz tech to know Apple products are fuckin garbage. Their computers are alright tho
@@umbrellacorporation9168 you can get a better computer for the same price tho
lol... thing is bullshit (like this) baffles brains
@@joshm.9427 I said their computers are "Alright not amazing 😛
Thanks for the info. Your video is very insightful
Is there a most recent video like this for the issues with 2018 models? Louis is the most knowledgeable person I've ever seen on UA-cam for Macs wow wtffff
Why does any of this surprise anyone? I dont know how many times I have to tell people, Apple DOES NOT make computers, they make fashion accessories
Yes. They're computers for people who don't really need computers. The ad campaign with the Mac and PC Guys was explicitly classist, and positioned Apple as a luxury brand rather than a producer of useful products.
@@pkunkbwok Actually, that's not always the case. I am a PC guy myself. I dislike Apple products, but my mom loves them a lot. She's got, an iPhone, an iPad and a Mac. She uses the latter when she needs to work while traveling, as it is pretty light. She says that that is the main reason why she uses a Mac for this.
Also, guess who gets stuck with troubleshooting an unfamiliar system when something goes wrong?
@@interlamer7480 thats my life in a nutshell, except they dont just have apple devices, they sometimes screw up good devices by falling for stupid *U won 10k* shits that appears on random websites. And when it comes to their iphones, i always say, "I own an android tablet, A TABLET, thats a phone, im never familiar with iphones so i cant fix it dead ass"
People just don't want to listen man...
Why does it have a keyboard and trackpad/mouse?
I knew apple wasnt the best, but I never imaged it was that bad.
-a baffled PC/android user.
Oh it's even worse
@@IStMl Steve pls come back one way or another
Same
Honestly, and I’m not excusing the people who got screwed over, but it’s always a very small % if units that have failures in their normal lifespan. OP’s job means he encounters these machines every day, but that doesn’t mean it’s widespread. In my experience macs last way longer than any windows laptop I owned.
Mat Well first of all, I don’t think it’s fair that you put an aura of ease of use “toys” around the mac, because it’s a very versatile OS that’s extensively used by the majority of STEM researchers, many experts in their field. The beauty of it is that a text editor, developer and researcher can all feel like it was tailored to their use. And in any case, don’t you think it’s fine if people want a stable experience with a phone and computer? There is nothing wrong with people wanting to pay a few extra hundred bucks to not get a blue screen if they can afford it. They’re good phones and good computers.
Second, I have used many, many computers. In my personal experience, Apple products have lasted significantly longer. I’m not denying that they make engineering mistakes, I just personally have never encountered these “widespread” failures with extensive use and my family members either with simple use. This is why a lot of Apple costumers, when they hear all the time that macs are shit that have widespread issues, respond this way.
Regarding the video, he’s a repair man that is constantly exposed to broken macs, so the failure points become apparent. He also makes most of his popularity with videos that paint a negative view of Apple.
What numbers do you have regarding the number that fail? A few forum posts and people bringing it in his shop isn’t enough to paint an accurate picture considering the millions of units sold.
2012 macbook user here, everything is still good, after the ram upgrade and the hard drive upgrade, glad this model is still useable
Even though I've been buying Apple products since 2007: MacBook Pro, 2 Mac Pros (cheese grater and trash can), 2 iPhones including 12 Pro Max, 3 iPads (2 iPad Pros including M1 iPad Pro) AirPods Pro, iPod, large monitor, bluetooth keyboard, dongle/adaptors, etc., ... the only malfunction I've had with any of these devices so far is the battery on the 2007 MacBook Pro expanded and Apple replaced it for free immediately. But I watch your videos anyway because you are so damned entertaining and persuasive ... even though all my brand new and 'antique' Apple products are all still working perfectly ... your videos make me almost believe that everyone's Apple products must be malfunctioning on a massive scale ... I guess I'm the only lucky one 🍀 🍀 🍀 😃
Why im never buying apple
1. Impossible to repair
2. Expensives as hell
3. Fragile and underpowered for the amount of money spent
@Robin Nilsson uses google....
@Robin Nilsson Well there is a reason why the other services are going to struggle. From understanding you use an android phone? Well from the moment you accept the ToS you get tracked, its part of the OS. you dont need to invest. The whole world is tracking you anyway. i would say that the huge sums of money is really part of anything these days . Like it or not apple's products arent really of dubious quality, every manufacturer has recalls, do they get the same media coverage nope they dont. anyway i am not here to change your mind, however i am also at least going to set some things straight. Also the Algorithm already knows you pretty well the random searches are filtered out automagically.
PS; DuckDuckGO is pretty close
Gtx 1080 Ti iPhones are literally the most powerful consumer phones right now, so they’re not underpowered
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 If google were as restrictive as apple I wouldnt have been able to come close to using 'duckduckgo' webbrowser extension *on CHROME* whose profits very much depends on dissing google and denting their tracking profits nor use adblockers to filter out the ads which essentially very much is google's moneymaker.
@@nitinanku since when do iPhones OR in fact anyphone have a GTX 1080 Ti in them!? Know your facts before you speak out loud.
I've been using Android and avoiding Apple like the plague. When I got my job 2 years ago, they gave me an iPhone to use. I hated it. The menus are clunky and our business app crashed constantly. The camera didn't know what app was using it and wouldn't focus properly. Those are just a few of the complaints I had. I'll never buy an Apple product. Especially after seeing this video. I recently helped a friend fix their MacBook. It installed Mountain Lion, an old version. You have to manually update it to a slightly newer version before you could just install the new version. Wtf.
Nicki Boling which iphone was it?
@@splatooner808 fortnite players dont have an opinion
TheMetalCactus you know some of us aren’t annoying and are actually sensible people
Splatooner 808 no fetuses don’t have an opinion
TheMetalCactus redditors don’t have an opinion
to fill the gap of 2014-2015 > check Retina display stains > there is a facebook page dedicated to this issue. Had this issue as well with my 2014 late macbook pro and fortunately acknowledged before the replacement program end (1 month before out of support for this issue on my device). Got the display replaced entirely, people came with all sort of solutions, those poor dudes/ladies whom didn`t catch the program > using mouthwash solution to remove the display coating that had the issue that created terrible stains.
That's why Rossmann is the best! Real talk a cool way! Love it! :)
I was attending a 4 year university for some classes, had just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, was playing Turtles 4 on a Super Nintendo emulator, as well as the four player X-men arcade game with a friend and I using 2 Xbox one controllers. Classmates were mesmerized asking me how I was able to get my phone to do that. I had to explain emulators, the Xbox controller drivers for Android, what a file manager is, etc. I am 40 and these were 18-21 year old kids. One asked me how he could get his phone to do that as he had an iPhone, I took great pleasure (in a nice way) of explaining why I despise Apple...fuck Apple!!!
Agreed, hate the way Apples are locked down.
WaterFlam3 are you three years old or something? This is the Internet.
I am so happy to live in The Netherlands, where you can actually legally hold a company liable on an individual basis instead of class action suits. We just have a law that requires vendors to replace/repair a part/product if the initial cost of it, suggests a certain longevity.
I'm all for that, we have an administration now that is gutting all consumer protections.
I've been to said Netherlands and can confirm; these guys are great, really
I am pretty sure than that law is tyrannical.
Okay, but consumers end up paying for those costs. I’m guessing computers are far more expensive in the Netherlands than the U.S. The manufacturers and retailers just spread out the costs into higher computer prices.
@@showtimebruin7821 nope, false
You are truly a blessing in a consumer market like this, holy shit.
After replacing the mainboard of my 2011 MBP 15“ - it works until today, with a new battery and a new ssd. But that’s an exception among different Macintosh machines that failed..
I am a mechanic in australia and your opening statement is exactly the same case with Crappy European and Australian built cars.
LOL This is exactly why the Apple icon is a bitten apple: The Apple you buy is already screwed :D
It’s the “original sin”.
Hopefully if they make a 3D model of the apple logo, there would be half a worm in it.
Haha lol right so try I prefer windows for life
And probably going brown from air exposure
Probably half a worm in there too.
I remember colleagues with the failed Mac Pro were, at the time, profoundly in denial.
I used HP and Lenovo laptops that, we knew for fact, were designed - from their inception - with software which took into account both local and global thermals of the computer...
I’ve had 5-6 iPhones, 2 Apple Watches, Apple TV, iPod touches, 3 iPads, and 2 MacBook pros. I’ve never had any issues with any of their products. I only upgraded after the products reach their usable life or a new cooler model is out.
I am an independent service tech and have been for over 20 years making quality repairs and servicing desktops and laptops of various brands EXCEPT Apple. I do not live in an area that is host to a large number of video or graphics professionals who woefully depend upon these devices to meet deadlines and earn a living. I totally agree with your points that not only are the Apple laptop devices designed with obsolescence in mind but also serviceability locked to Apple certified technical staff (and OEM replacement parts). Therefore I refer any potential Apple clients back to Apple for repairs or suggest a different brand that is serviceable from an economical and open source bin of OEM replacement parts.
I can tell from your free videos that you have a genuine concern for your clients and will make a reliable repair to get these people back to their vocation and for that I take my hat off to you. Yes, even at my ripe old age, 65+ now, I learn from your experiences. You qualify your distrust of Apple with facts not just negative rhetoric. Keep up the good work Louis Rossmann, the world needs more people like you!
Except he's wrong and presents distorted facts to fit his narrative. Apple devices have the lowest average failure rates in the industry and are supported for the longest with software updates. Thus they have the highest 2nd hand resale value. Enjoy.
@@AndyMilne The iphone 6 had a higher failure rate than even the cheapo alcatel line, which would be covered by even Walmart warranty. So, that's money back or in-store credit. Several laptops boast way more features than the macbooks, beating them in every single aspect, aside from smaller touch pads, with much lower failure rates(see toshiba and asus) at a fraction of the cost! If something went wrong (which obviously was rare), you could exchange them if it was within usually 2 years. No scams, no fuss! So, average price range, average warranty, average failure rates kinda puts them in the area of scammy but that's okay, you gotta climb over people to get to the top.
Amen to that.
*kauan yamaguti*
"others prefer what works!" - So these wrecked machines _looking like_ Apples aren't _actually_ Apples. Is that what you are saying? Are you sure you _know_ what a 'life' is?
@@AndyMilne OmegaLULZ, fanboi just undid all his facts with a no-fact rebuttal. Well played.
Anyone else listen to rants like this from Louis Rossman and pretend its a bedtime story. Its so satisfying hearing apple get roasted more than their own graphics chips, it helps me sleep.
He's deadass soothing
I don't pretend it *is* a bedtime story 😁
Calm rant 😁
Happy...sad...
Oh man dejavu my friend. I had the exact MacBook Pro back in college, and guess what? The gpu burnt out! A day before my midterm paper was due! I took it to the Apple Store on campus the minute they opened in the morning, the dude was cool enough to just replace the board for free, and I got a due date extension from my professor. All worked out but I was freaking out the night the screen went black. Good memories lol.
I had about 10 to 15 pieces of the Unibody Macbook Pros (2008-2012). I liked how they were produced. Always bought them used. Never bought a new apple product and will never do it. Now I have a 2012 Macbook Pro with an i7, SSD hardrive, and so on. Enough power. More than when you pay more than 2k dollars for a new 2020 Macbook Pro, where it is not possible to use Firewire, USB and so on without Dongles. Also it is not possible to change RAm, hardrive and battery. I do not know what happens when my 2012 Macbook will break.
Thanks, Lous... just took my Mac back the second time for repair. My wife: "Why don't you just buy a PC at Costco?". Me: "But I love my Mac!" Then I saw your videos, and my cult mentality became apparent.
Jeff Zekas, Apple are absolute Masters at “creating a Hype” for their products, and making people Believe in their products. Unfortunately the products don’t live up to the hype that they created in the first place. And don’t forget, Apple are just Marketing specialists, they don’t even produce their own products... they are just Awesome at Marketing, otherwise known as “the blah-Deeh-blah”
I think you should try your Wife's advice, just don't hold it against her when you switch back to apple.
@@kazhilly Dude,
What a crock. Apple designs their own motherboards and chips if necessary. They get consistently good reviews and performance ratings by the labs that do that kind of analyses.
Apple's computer advertising budget is less than Dells, most of it is word of mouth, because most apple users are happy customers.
Dude, get your GED and get a clue!
Get a decent PC and put a Linux distro that you like on it. There are some where the desktop simulates the crabapple look. Their OS is based on a linux kernel that nowadays runs on X64 hardware.
El Kiddo you clearly did not watch this entire video, and you clearly are another victim of Apple’s marketing. But hey, Thanks for the advice here, how nice to be told off by a “Kiddo”, that really adds further value to my life. You don’t have to believe me and it’s Fine if you don’t, but I know a few more things than you do about Apple as a business. Enough said.
I’m watching this on an apple I pad that doesn’t charge properly
damn
Ironic. He could save others from death, but not you.
Clearly you're chargin it wrong
Freddy Kabuffke bruh I’m using an apple charging cable and an apple charging base and it says not charging
@@_wheat856 Buy a new charging base and cable. If this doesn't work, buy a new phone. Not Apple's fault, if you handle it wrong 👀
I've been fortunate with my 2021 Macbook Pro. No problems, and it runs cool even under pressure.
However, now I know who to send it to should it need servicing. Thank you for your excellent videos.
I will say that their wireless mouse acts odd at times. One program I work with I have to plug in my old wired mouse to avoid constant frustration.
You seriously bought a "magic" mouse?
My first Apple product was the 2008 MBP that I bought second hand in 2009. GPU failed out of warranty in 2012 and I had it fixed by independent technician. Upgraded to 2011 MBP with GPU issues that surfaced in 2015. Fixed under warranty in 2015 and second time in 2016, again under warranty. This laptop is still running well, I put 2TB storage in it and maxed out the RAM. Not bad for a 11 year old laptop. But the 2008 model and Apples attitude was a disaster. Overall cost of ownership with accessories, repairs and upgrades works out to be $300/year from 2009 til 2022.
finally someone that can explain the norwegian teenpopulation. like 80% use it and they all complain, "but it is better than androiiiiid" *facepalm*
FrostyKaynine tbh android is still crap. System is so unsecure. Is switched to iphone for a reason
@@tripzz3013 at the cost of limiting your freedom.
@@tripzz3013
"Alphabet GOOGL-owned Google researchers recently published a report about Chinese hacking of iPhones to track its minority Uighur community."
Yet apple is soo secure?
@@lexort4204 Apple only has the "secure" reputation because, historically, very few people had them and so it wasn't worth hackers breaking into them.
@@tripzz3013 its not. it is the lack of understanding you have of it. it is way more open to the public, for involvement in whats going on. which is not a case with apple. a devlicence on android is a 25 dollar one time purchase, apple is 100 dollars a year.
ive never owned an apple product nor do i care, but im still pissed for some reason
...what's hilarious is that I totally "get" that! I'm pissed, too.
years ago i had a girlfriend who got me a iphone for my birthday. I needed a new phone, i broke mine a few days before.. She is no longer my girlfriend.
My only Apple product is an iPod that I got as a gift like 6-7 years ago. And it already had at least 2 owners before me. It still works fine, aside from the "adjust volume" buttons on the side not working anymore and the "power" button needs to be pressed hard for it to work. Screen is shattered but still works (dropped it around a million times over the years). So all in all, that's pretty good for a portable device. My android phone only lasted 2 years before I dropped it one too many times and it stopped turning on.
But still, the android had so much better functionality. I could use it as usb drive, I could easily put in and switch SD cards, installing apps was easier, putting music (or movies or any media) onto it didn't require a program (iTunes), and putting music (or again movies etc...) didn't require you to have an exact copy of your library on your PC (otherwise the missing files from your pc will also be deleted from your iPod for some fucking reason), I could take out the back panel without ease, while the iPod can't be taken apart, the iPod has this stupid Apple USB cable that isn't standard for any other company (and more expensive too), while I had around 10 other cables in my home for my android phone that I could use to charge it or connect it to my pc.... I could go on forever but you get the point.... it just sucks that Apple devices don't have these features which are standard for any other device on the market.....
Same here, never owned an Apple product and i am pissed for a good reason. Apple jacks up the prices, and the rest do the same. So Apple screws over everybody, even non-Apple sheep.
It's called, "being human". Apple can't grasp that concept, because their consumers are sheeps!
I haven't been a fan of Apple since the Apple II. Once the Mac came out, I felt their attitude was "user condescending" as I like to call it. I got an iPhone 3GS to test on our corporate Exchange, and it hosed my calendar, and lost ALL of the groupings of my contacts. Years later an iPad did the same to my calendar again. It's nice to hear my feelings about Apple were not unjustified - even though I'm 3 years late!
I think that you are great. Awesome insight into think different. I built a hackintosh out of PC Hardware in 2016 based on Apple Pro Specs not only did I save 2k Eurod, but the machine is still running today. It doesnt look like an air Conditioner either.
Why building hackintosh? Is there some advantages using macOS?
Imagine having one of the iPhone models that were actually good just for one day to install an update that makes your phone slow as a sloth lool
There hasnt been a good apple product in years and finding the one that hasnt had that update is damn near impossible
I'm still running iOS 8-point-something on my 5s specifically for that reason, if I could have it my way I'd still be on iOS 7. This phone will last me forever if I never update it.
TeamAlive2011 except that they rolled that back next update
@@klebs7724 wdym
Think different
-Steve Jobs
Bend over
-Tim Cook
Steve jobs - im so innovative i steal peoples ideas and inventions just like Thomas Edison and sell them as my own a couple years later to dumb people.
Hitesh Lalwani Tim Cook seems very shady. That man is the devil.
Steve job was all 20 heads of the snake....glad he's gone
TheGodfather
👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
@@dragonduel7909 Pretty fucked up being glad someone's dead. Also, the company has only declined since jobs passing, steve dying fixed nor proved anything.
About 7 years ago, guy at work was flapping his jaw about his new crApple, after 20 minutes i had enough and said i can build a PC with better specs for half the price, he said he paid $2200, I looked up the specs (cpu/ram/video/hdd) and started pricing the stuff out, a hair over $600, he could not believe it. And here is the kick to the nads, it had TWO GRAPHIC CARDS,,,,and it turned out, they were 4 years old!!! Sucker punch to his 2 BB's in the hefty bag. Then i asked why he spent so much on his machine, "so you can surf the web to see all the programs YOU CAN RUN! Total burn.
Please do guide and give your feedback on latest equations
iPad etc
Looking forward