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What's the alternative then Louis? A WINDOWS laptop? Please, just no. It's only recently that linux destops have grown to provide a decent alternative and even they lack the smooth integration to the backups and media sources. Apple is not just a hardware producer, it produces an ecosystem that works far better than the competition. When it works.
@@dingdong2103 Wish linux laptops become a decebt and fast option one day. I don't want a laptop that i would want to get rid of 3 years later bcs of not enough performance for me 💀
I liked it, But then i removed the like. At this point you are at 666likes and i wanna leave it like this, so here is your like +1... Also i am getting a T-shirt with this on it.
Ikr, what kind of a piece of shit controller breaks from regular use? Literally every controller I've ever had for any system, including other nintendo systems, lasts forever unless I drop them or lose them, I've used gamecube and xbox controllers so long that the rubber on the control sticks eroded away, but they still work! Meanwhile this Fisher-price trash joycon malfunctions within a few months. Ninty is really slipping, hopefully that class action lawsuit pays out soon
@@tongpoo8985 I got a lot of controllers. Some are even over 20 years old and they work like day 1. My Joycons on the other hand... They broke after a month of playing(I got bigger hands, the only controller that fits properly is the original duke controller for the OG Xbox)
He manages to make a good amount of money repairing Apple products, but still he suggests every one to not buy Apple products. Huge respect for your dedication and the ethics you put on your job.
Basically liberals. “I hate Capitalism ! Support my small business though !” How do you hate he who gives you a job. If Apple didn’t exist Louis Rossman’s youtube career wouldn’t exist in the caliber that it’s in. Let’s be real. But just like it’s cool for a community to love Apple, this is a community where it’s cool to hate Apple. Ironically, they don’t understand that they’re on two different sides of the same obsessed coin.
@@KjvYaBoii How fucking crazy obsessed are you that you took this to political and economic labels....capitalism vs yada yada yada. These are corporations, they manufacture goods and there is a predictable failure and defect rate of every part and a lifespan. These corporations, like Apple, mix and match their part selection to make their products disposable and short lived, many reaching obsolescence within a year of release. And Apple...Apple is special with this because they try to take COMMON technology, make it attractive to you so you buy it, even though it's more proprietary than a car(you technically don't even own the entire device, you're a licensee), so no one can touch them, like they're some kind of medical device manufacturer. They aren't selling you a product, they're selling you a business relationship with them, where so long as you have their product, you are stuck with them for maintenance and upkeep. And what better way to repeatedly pressure resale than to get you when you're vulnerable and without the device you crave connection to. This is what this man is showing you and folks get on here, though in small numbers, and try to talk about Apple being his paycheck...He's a electrical engineer idiots-he doesn't need a corporation, he has skills not tied to any single manufacturer. He's in insider trying to tell you you're sheep and MOST the things he's seen from Genius Bar and Geek Squad are freebie fixes so don't trust them. This isn't how free trade and capitalism are supposed to coexist, so why you would bring this to politics is beyond me. Apple is a prime example how Capitalism is NOT suppose to work in the US. Monopolies are supposed to be banned, huge corporations are not supposed to be allowed to control entire markets.
People on ebay seem to think that Apple products don't deprecate: 'I bought this iMac 5 years ago for £2,000. I spilled Starbucks on it so I'm only asking for £1,900'.
I recently went to eBay in hopes of replacing my deceased 2011 MacBook Pro. They were selling it for just as much as it would cost to buy a 2019 MacBook Pro. Madness.
Seriously, there was a CNBC or abc or something news story where they went into an apple store to get a MacBook repaired, and the dude said something about water damage, then said they’d need to charge $1100 for repairs and $100 in labor, and $600 to reset the sensors or something They took it down the road to a repair shop and the dude bent a pin and it worked just fine
Back when 4G first came out, I specifically remembered when apple released The Apple IPHONE 3GS and people where lined up almost outside the Mall to get this "ALL NEW SMART PHONE" That was 3G capable, I was left scratching my head wondering why..... as I walked in the opposite direction looking at all the Die-Hard Appletons, I held up my 4G Samsung Galaxy and kept repeating myself asking them: "ARE YOU NOT ALL AWARE 3G HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED BY 4G NOW? SAMSUNG HAD 4G PHONES OVER HALF A YEAR!!" That was the moment I realized How deep apples influence ran. When a tech company can have customers lining up to buy yesterday's technology at Tomorrow's Prices is Nucking Futs
Guess what, nobodg gives a damn, it's tech - let people buy what they want not what you think is better. Sad how you believe tech companies define the who people are .
@@lexluthor3811 Can't 4G enabled devices also use 3G, and 5G enabled devices use 3/4G too? Adding compatibility with promising nascent technologies to your devices is futureproofing, and it's great. I wouldn't judge someone who bought a new phone that wasn't compatible, but I'm gonna squint a little at a company who charge _a lot_ of money to their customers for regular upgrades not using the latest technology.
1:01 - 2008 Macbooks with hinge problem. 5:00 - Capacitor that would fail to provide power to GPU because it's not supposed to be used with AC. 6:10 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail 7:10 - iPhone 5 power button problem. 7:27 - Another MBP Problem with GPU failure, due to came capacitor that was causing problem on a 2008 model. (this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products.) 11:04 - Result of the GPU/display problem, Apple getting lawsuit'd. 11:45 - apple giving out refurbished boards as warranty. the boards given out by apple as warranty replacement has signs of rework/soldering on them. 13:07 - Another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method. 14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again). 16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue. 18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies. 20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue. 21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue.
cheater00 and yet at Apple there isn't much of a choice either. People don't know because they don't look for it, even this video can't so nothing for them. But by any means: - Any Dell XPS from 2015 to 2018 - Any Thinkpad really - Matebook pro for the style obsessed ;) Etc.
the problem is, every other manufacturer is making almost same shit designs that it feels like that they purposely doing this so that units will fail after couple of years. You cant possibly show any better alternatives to people unless we were in 2010.. Any brand that makes though (do actually works forna long years) laptops or phones already get bankrupt and erased from history. I highly recommend you to read brave new world. Because this is how new world order looks like.
You missed out the massive problem of retina MBPs having their anti-reflective coating peel off and look absolutely horrible, and still not being fixed 5 years later. The screen replacement program has been running since 2015, it's insane
I've had a pretty deep hatred of Apple ever since a malfunctioning Mac caused me to fail my multimedia final (which was 50% of my grade) in high school. "You probably did something wrong." my Apple fanatic friend says as they place their smashed screen iPhone on my coffee table before bending down to search between the carpet fibers for the $300 airpods they dropped.
Did you hold down the GPU constantly even though it’s not supposed to come off? No? Well, then that’s your fault. In all seriousness, this is horrible. Absolute bullshit. Making money is more important than someone’s future, apparently.
How many Apple cult members does it take to screw in a light bulb? None, it's a proprietary light bulb only serviceable under the protection plan by a certified Apple Technician.
@ Alan Rizkallah What certified Apple Technician ??? Are they really able to identify real malfunctioning issues, or are just there to swap components until it works again??? In that case, anyone can do that....Oh and don't even start me over the "Genius-es" at the Apple stores....I would just loooove to catch one and strangle him a little with one power cord from a macbook 2013 model, the MagSafe :-)))
Jokes aside, _Apple_ actually *is* a textbook totalitarian cult. Deliberately built this way using a cult-building manual. It's same as Scientology, probably inspired by it.
Just watched this again in 2021. Apple is even more successful than ever before. Why do Apple users keep forgiving this company? It is hard to fathom for me.
They don't. Apple just keeps shaming them into it. It's like, "Heeey, you don't want everyone at Whole Foods to think you aren't keeping up with them ... do you? It would be a shame if , you know, you walked in with such an old phone. People might wonder if you only buy organic ... every now and then... Hmm We'll just mass text everyone and let them know you'll get your budget together soon, mmk ... maybe see if they can donate any spare charging cables and adapters since they won't need them ... ever."
Apple’s more successful because they finally made Mac’s worth buying for more than their first-party software. Questionable upgrade prices aside, their performance, engineering and value are leagues better than the dark ages of the mid-2010’s. (This is from a non-Mac guy)
My family’s been using Apple products for years, so all our photos, videos, documents, etc are stored in the Apple cloud; we’re basically having our data being held hostage, and that’s the reason my dad gives me whenever I propose a switch.
I grew up using Apple's products. Through high school I was that kid arguing with my friends over mac vs. windows. Now in my 30's, I switched to windows three years ago and haven't looked back. Thanks for telling it like it is.
S4nari I had a similar arguments of Motorola vs Apple. I miss my little flip phone Motorola. That sucker lasted me 3 years and still worked like brand new, despite being thrown, dropped, and rough handled.
I'd settle for macOS (A certified UNIX operating system) over Windows any-day of the week. Thankfully, I can build a Hackintosh and run macOS on decent hardware. Apple really needs to correct its hardware path.
@Evi1M4chine These are all the apple hardware products I've ever used: Macintosh Plus, Macintosh II, iBook, first-generation iPod, Original iMac, Power Mac G4, PowerBook G4 12", iPod touch, MacBook Air, Ipad, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, ipod Nano, Iphone 6, Ipad Pro. Not listed here is the multitude of mac only software that went along with these machines including things like Final Cut Pro. So yeah, I have experience with their products, both currently and throughout the companies history. Nothing in my comment would suggest that I confuse software and hardware, I've used it all since the late 80's. The pricing of their products are not justified by the return of any extra processing power or availability of exclusive software. Also, being able to run one OS on the other machine is irrelevant.
customer: " OH MY GOD! my macbook pro for 3000€ start overheating and i saw some smoke too! " Apple: So buy a new one right? customer" : yea thanks Apple, i lowe u.
"And the issue here is that this one chip after it dies, will short a main power rail to ground." I'm sorry, *what*?! What kind of design is that? That's like if you designed a car fuel system that would randomly stop working, and when it stops working it would just ignite all the fuel in the tank. "Think different."
I've been using Android and avoiding Apple like the plague. When I got my job 2 years ago, they gave me an iPhone to use. I hated it. The menus are clunky and our business app crashed constantly. The camera didn't know what app was using it and wouldn't focus properly. Those are just a few of the complaints I had. I'll never buy an Apple product. Especially after seeing this video. I recently helped a friend fix their MacBook. It installed Mountain Lion, an old version. You have to manually update it to a slightly newer version before you could just install the new version. Wtf.
And Apple's LATEST engineering failure is putting an Intel Core i9 in a thin 2018 MacBook Pro. Cooling is so poor that the i9 can't even maintain its BASE clock speed under heavy load due to thermal throttling. This means the premium you pay for the i9 gives you LESS performance than the i7 version in some cases!
Its not actually the core i9 that is getting to hot, but the driver chips that provide the power to the i9 cpu, and that is why this macbook is throttling down the speed, those chips can't compete with the "power hungry" i9 chip, so the chip doesn't receive its full power because the drivers are boiling themselves of the board, this macbook will die in about 13 to 14 months, and many will think it is a dead cpu while the actual problem are those boiling driver chips, and these chips are made by apple and nobody can provide those, so apple has made a unfixable machine again that will fail in a very short amount of time, unless repair shops can get their hands on donor boards, but the i9 model is simply to new
you don't need water cooling for an i9, matter of fact is that air coolers are actualyl better for cooling, water cooling is actually less efficient than air cooling, it's just quieter.
Many Apple flaws are there because management refuses to believe that a perfect company could possibly have a flawed product - you know. a cult. When I was working at Apple I found an obvious flaw and a simple fix for the iMac-7 fan control problem. It was huge electrical noise emissions from a poorly designed power supply distorting data on a nearby cable. "You're wrong. We have good power supplies" my boss said, totally ignoring the facts and evidence which I had found. I left that goofy place soon after. iMac-7 went into production, then all I read in user reviews were complaints about the fan. Not my problem anymore.
Nice video, I like how you not only discussed the problems , but showed the exact design failures in real life and explained where Apple failed to back their own products up. This reminds me of issues I see daily in auto repair, where the manufacture knows for a fact they have a design failure, but instead blames the customer or pretends it is normal wear and tear.
Apple Inc. is an American multinationaltechnology company headquartered in Cupertino, California, that designs, develops, and sells consumer electronics, computer software, and online services. Wikipedia
The worst part of all of this is not Apple's faulty designs or engineering errors, not even the way they treat their customers, late recalls and GPU warranty fixes only if the machine boots, but the fact that other companies are copying both the shitty designs and the shitty behaviour of Apple, spreading the cancer across the whole consumer electronic product segments. No EOM spares, no recalls, and a "it should last only 2 years" mentality. Apple is dangerous for us repairers and for all the segment everywhere. Support the right to repair. Support freedoom.
Exactly, and to go even further: Every industry, even before Apple was around, takes advantage of the system they run on. Freedom of choice is always there, but the obstacles to get started or even survive with a new/competing product are stifling (cable industry comes to mind). We can pass the blame around to whomever, the point is there is always this problem, and I'm with Louis about looking into solutions. Not just for consumer electronics, but business- and customer-handling as a whole.
The new XPS from Dell are designs rip off of Dell and are actually better XD However, no matter how much you prove, you come out with fact, you do whatever logics you want, the power of Apple's marketing and brand will always shade this. Making people think they have the best product is more powerful than having the best product overall. And I agree with you and since I, being myself an independent technician, refused to work on Apple products my life has got easier.
Luckily, certain countries (like Norway) have laws that protect customers from the "it should last only 2 years" mentality (to a certain degree) Here's a direct excerpt from The Consumer Purchases Act in Norway: "If an item is defective, the consumer must, within a reasonable period of time after he or she discovered or should have discovered the defect, notify the seller that he or she intends to submit a formal complaint with respect thereto. The deadline for submitting a complaint can never be shorter than two months from the point at which the consumer discovered the defect. Any complaint must be submitted no later than two years after the consumer took possession of the item. If, when in normal use, the item or any part thereof is meant to last substantially longer, the deadline for submitting a complaint is five years. This does not apply as long as the seller, by means of a guarantee or other agreement, has assumed liability for defects over a longer period." Phones and laptops are actually examples of items that are meant to last longer than two years. So you have 5 years protection against defects (like some of those Rossmann mentioned in the video) I think that's pretty awesome.
Thankfully we can build our own PCs so at least Windows/Linux users don't have to put up with shitty company policies. And if you can afford an expensive laptop, then you have the option of getting a customisable Clevo laptop (or equivalent) from a reputable computer store.
A similar thing happened with my old iphone 5. In early 2015 Apple's newest software update BRICKED my phone, and when I took it in to get it repaired, not only did they FORGET I was there after I had been forced to make an APPOINTMENT and had reminded them I was there multiple times over the HOUR that I had to sit there (they literally were closing the store, turning off the lights with me being the ONLY PERSON still sitting there in the MIDDLE OF THE STORE), but when I called someone over, he said they needed to run tests on it. I told him I'd already tried taking it to a 3rd party repair shop and knew what the issue was because it was fairly widespread, but he said company policy required that they run a test via the phone. I told him the phone wouldn't turn on, and he insisted that they had to run the test on it. 15 minutes later he comes back and says that they can't run the test on the phone because it won't power on (he said this as if I wasn't aware of that), and that because they can't run the test, they won't be able to do anything to fix it. I didn't even have the option to PAY to get it repaired. He said I would just have to buy a new phone. I asked to speak to the manager, he said the manager had already left because the store was closed. He acted like I had shown up at the last second unannounced, as opposed to, you know, sitting there for over an hour with my thumb up my ass trying to get help. I looked him in the face and said "what you're telling me right now is that BECAUSE the phone is broken, your policy PREVENTS you from fixing it. Does that make any sense to you?" He replied "if you want to buy a new phone now, I can take $20 off of an otter box case because you had to wait a little bit longer (yes, he had the BALLS to say "a little bit longer") but that's about the best I can do." I looked him dead in the face and said "No thanks, I'll just get an Android." It's been 5 years and I've never once looked back. Android. For. Life.
I had the exact same experience as you at apple store and like you i went to samsong but about a year later the phone didn't want to charge so went back to the store kind of upset but the saleman said it couldn't be fixt so he just give me a new one
I bought a Macbook Pro in the year 2000. It was the first generation of the so called 'aircraft aluminium' and supposedly milled from a solid piece of that aluminium. I think it cost well over £2400, which back then was a Kings ransom. On slotting a disc into the player I found that it would not eject the disc, caused by a misalignment between the player and the milled slot on the case. The only way I could remove the disc after pressing eject was to insert a very thin pair of tweezers into the slot and pull the disc out far enough to get my fingers on it. I explained my problem over the phone to the apple store, who were then based in ireland, and asked for a replacement laptop. They informed me that under no circumstances would they give me a replacement and my only option was... 1. Return the laptop by post to their store at my expense. 2. Wait a minimum of 8 weeks from the date they received the laptop for a decision and/or repair. 3 Pay a small charge for the return postage, and a second larger charge if they found no problem with my laptop. At that point I informed them that there was a second option. Because of UK laws I was entitled to a full refund, with them reimbursing the postage I paid to return it to them. I did this and the following year (2001)went out and bought a Sony Vaio laptop for over £1200 less with higher spec. This ran Windows XP and lasted over 10 years and the only expense I ever went to was to double the ram and fit a larger hard drive later in it's life. It's now in a cupboard somewhere and would probably still start up and work fine if I tried it. I then vowed never to buy another product from Apple, and have kept my word. To this day I wouldn't piss on Apple if they were on fire.
I thought the 2000 Macbook Pro had the little hole by the drive where you could insert a paper clip to eject it... I could be wrong... Was a long time ago... No I'm sure it did have that option...
IMO Apple's undoing was when the iMacs caught on like wildfire and they decided to put style over substance and put a premium price tag on less-than-premium hardware.
@@MementoMori-xx5qo (No hate) haven't seen? There is well built windows laptops, with the same kind of aluminum body (they're more rare ofc) but example new(ish) Dell XPS series could be pretty close. *some new MacBooks have that problem, if you close and open the screen (laptop ofc) the" screen flex cable" will broke in matter of time because the cable is too short...( and Apple's engineering is only the reason why its happening( "its your fault" is their idea behind that.) (Apple didn't even admit it?)*
@@MementoMori-xx5qo "I’ve never seen a windows laptop with better structural integrity than a Apple laptop." - Straight from the description: "1:01 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook GPU failures, warranty service refusal 2:21 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook Pro hinge/frame problem 3:16 - A1286 Macbook Pro - the "Unibody" myth, glued together pieces fall apart 4:58 - A1286/A1297 MCP power circuit failure due to poor buck converter design: C7771 issue 6:01 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail 7:12 - iPhone 5 power button problem 7:27 - A1286 2010 Macbook Pro GPU kernel panics due to same buck converter defect from 2008/2009(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products, same design flaw for three straight years) 10:04 - A1286 2011 Macbook Pro GPU failure, Apple gets sued over not addressing problem. 11:43 - Apple gives out badly refurbished boards as warranty replacements for 2011 GPU failures. 13:06 - 2012 Retina Macbook Pro: another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method on the GPU buck converter. 14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again). 16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue. 18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies. 20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue. 21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue. 22:50 - A1278 Macbook Pro SATA cable failures(yes, really). " Great structural integrity from Apple. LMAO. Have you only seen Windows laptops that cost less than $100 or something?
I've been an Apple customer for years, but after discovering your channel I can confidently say I will never purchase any Apple product again. I knew they were shady, but wtf
Steve jobs - im so innovative i steal peoples ideas and inventions just like Thomas Edison and sell them as my own a couple years later to dumb people.
@@dragonduel7909 Pretty fucked up being glad someone's dead. Also, the company has only declined since jobs passing, steve dying fixed nor proved anything.
Honestly, and I’m not excusing the people who got screwed over, but it’s always a very small % if units that have failures in their normal lifespan. OP’s job means he encounters these machines every day, but that doesn’t mean it’s widespread. In my experience macs last way longer than any windows laptop I owned.
Mat Well first of all, I don’t think it’s fair that you put an aura of ease of use “toys” around the mac, because it’s a very versatile OS that’s extensively used by the majority of STEM researchers, many experts in their field. The beauty of it is that a text editor, developer and researcher can all feel like it was tailored to their use. And in any case, don’t you think it’s fine if people want a stable experience with a phone and computer? There is nothing wrong with people wanting to pay a few extra hundred bucks to not get a blue screen if they can afford it. They’re good phones and good computers. Second, I have used many, many computers. In my personal experience, Apple products have lasted significantly longer. I’m not denying that they make engineering mistakes, I just personally have never encountered these “widespread” failures with extensive use and my family members either with simple use. This is why a lot of Apple costumers, when they hear all the time that macs are shit that have widespread issues, respond this way. Regarding the video, he’s a repair man that is constantly exposed to broken macs, so the failure points become apparent. He also makes most of his popularity with videos that paint a negative view of Apple. What numbers do you have regarding the number that fail? A few forum posts and people bringing it in his shop isn’t enough to paint an accurate picture considering the millions of units sold.
My HP laptop had 2 drinks spilled on it, was in a house fire and got hosed down, dropped down the stairs while on, and managed to last 10 years. The screen backlight would eventually start to flicker occasionally, or not turn on with the laptop itself after 8 years. Recently, when I tried to get something from it, after 12 years, it finally wouldn't boot. It was a 540$ machine and it served me very well for a long time. And even spent years of its life playing games, working hard.
I have a samsung notebook that my parents gave to me in 2011. It was slow already in 2011, with a simple pentium dual core and 4 gigs of ram. I remember the laptop struggled to run cs go but I still gamed a lot in it. I did everything I could so I could use it far beyond its potential. I have a picture using an external monitor, cooler, external mouse and keyboard, headphones etc and there I was happy as I could be. I eventually upgraded to 8 gigs of RAM and put an SSD on it and it still works perfectly whilst being almost 10 years old. I just recently opened it to clean it and it's still a laptop I use just to watch videos or something
I've heard a story of a person accidentally dropping their Lenovo Thinkpad from the rafters of a stage. They picked it up and it was still running, no damage other then some scuffs. with a macbook the screen would probably be separated from the computer.
Ok. But it isn't said that a Mac can't do the same. I have been an Apple user since the Apple II which my father brought home. And i have never had any issues with any Mac i purchased. And i purchased a lot of Apple products over time (several releases and sizes in iMac's, several releases and sizes in MacBook and MacBook Pro's, several releases and sizes iPhones and iPads). And i even own a 12 inch MacBook 2017 with butterfly keyboard which i use daily and no issues with the butterfly keyboard. So having an HP, Samsung or Lenovo does not mean that they can't have similar issues as well. Ok, Apple could have handled warranty and service better. But it is often also Apple bashing by mainly Windows users who never even used an Apple device. And my girlfriend has had many Windows notebooks by Acer, Asus, HP and Lenovo. And they all had issues. I installed Windows on a 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch for my girlfriend which runs a lot faster with Windows then any Windows notebook from that time and over time there is always the issue that Windows will start to run slower. And she can't figure out how macOS works which is a lot easier to use than Windows IMHO. But Windows users are so stuck in the Windows way of working that they can't figure out how to work with macOS. I can do both but i ditched Windows years ago. Because despite all the Apple bashing Windows still sucks when you use it over a longer period of time. It gets slower. And macOS just does not. So every manufacturer be it hardware or software has faults. Not only Apple but also HP, Samsung, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etcetera. And some of these companies also lack in warranty and service.
When they start manufacturing quantities in the millions, there must be some kind of cap or curve that shows what percentage of these products will fail over time or in specific parts. My guess is both PC and APPLE are obligated to a kind of CHAOS function that results in failures at a certain percentage. You make billions of M&Ms and maybe ther'll ba a percent of packets with all geens, all reds etc., and all else ok. But with pcs and macs, with thousands of parts (thousands of m&ms in one machine, that failure rate soon appears). I've used APPLE since the original mactintosh. Only recently since 2017, have I started seeing these types of failures. My next machine will be a Dell or Lenovo? and will compare. While traveling in Asia, I dropped my iphone 7 on cobblestone in the RP, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF sidewalk repair setups for pc's, cellphones, gaming hardware in the philippines. Took my iphone there asked for a price, $25 to replace screen 3rd party, $45 for new Apple screen. Not bad I thought and I didn't bargain. Iphone still works. My Huawei is also still solid, but Android sucks is all I can say about that.
This is exactly why i always laugh at people, when they say: "Apple prices aren't so high for the brand name. It is their technology being so advanced." Yeah.. very advanced. Advanced glue?
Yeah, their Mac software hasn't been really advanced either. I will agree that iOS is written in Objective C, so it consumes less RAM than android per app. But Linux, Windows, etc are all written in C, assembly and are highly optimized. Windows has better support and software availability than macOS Mac OS doesn't have any "optimization". they keep changing their chip sets and have never supported graphics properly. Windows has proven to have better gaming performance and boot up times as well. It's so bullshit that apple prevents their software (final cut Pro and others) from being used elsewhere, cuz it's one of the only reasons to buy their PC's anyways.
To be clear, none of that are faulty product, error, or mistake. All of that are feature, feature whose sole purpose is to make more money for stakeholder. And it work beautifully.
Lol only apple could sell a product with a fatal flaw and call it a feature. I know your just making fun of them but honestly they could probably legitimatelly tell people its a feature and they would buy it knowing its going to break and tell all their friends "its just a feature" lol.
Per Karlsson I think you have your time off a little bit, I think you mean 10+ months, unlike many competitors that last around an average of 5 years based on either user error, the screen hinges breaking, or just simply becoming outdated.
I trust Louis Rossmann and Linus Tech Tips, It is great that you have had a good user experience and your devices are still fine I am truely happy for you but I'll never get one based off the vast majority of poor owner experiences both from what I have read and seen online via credible sources like LTT and LR but also from friends and their experiences. All of my friends that once were Apple fanatics have since moved to Android and Windows based products many years ago. Usually just 1 owner experience is all it took them to make the switch. There is no reason for Apple to make their batteries "non replaceable" at all other than to intentionally make the product performance decline so you buy a new phone. Just a small example of their b.s. they pull.
I'm 32 and I won't own another crapple product .I had one iPhone 5 for a few years and I hated how limited it was in so many areas... especially the fixed storage...I hated it.
38, same here. Forget about the overpricing or the cringe hype, to me it was enough that the music you put on the ipod was locked for me to despise the sheep around me who thought that was acceptable. My thought at 16: You don't want me to use you, do you? Ok then I won't, I like my stuff to be useful.
I am an independent service tech and have been for over 20 years making quality repairs and servicing desktops and laptops of various brands EXCEPT Apple. I do not live in an area that is host to a large number of video or graphics professionals who woefully depend upon these devices to meet deadlines and earn a living. I totally agree with your points that not only are the Apple laptop devices designed with obsolescence in mind but also serviceability locked to Apple certified technical staff (and OEM replacement parts). Therefore I refer any potential Apple clients back to Apple for repairs or suggest a different brand that is serviceable from an economical and open source bin of OEM replacement parts. I can tell from your free videos that you have a genuine concern for your clients and will make a reliable repair to get these people back to their vocation and for that I take my hat off to you. Yes, even at my ripe old age, 65+ now, I learn from your experiences. You qualify your distrust of Apple with facts not just negative rhetoric. Keep up the good work Louis Rossmann, the world needs more people like you!
Except he's wrong and presents distorted facts to fit his narrative. Apple devices have the lowest average failure rates in the industry and are supported for the longest with software updates. Thus they have the highest 2nd hand resale value. Enjoy.
@@AndyMilne The iphone 6 had a higher failure rate than even the cheapo alcatel line, which would be covered by even Walmart warranty. So, that's money back or in-store credit. Several laptops boast way more features than the macbooks, beating them in every single aspect, aside from smaller touch pads, with much lower failure rates(see toshiba and asus) at a fraction of the cost! If something went wrong (which obviously was rare), you could exchange them if it was within usually 2 years. No scams, no fuss! So, average price range, average warranty, average failure rates kinda puts them in the area of scammy but that's okay, you gotta climb over people to get to the top.
*kauan yamaguti* "others prefer what works!" - So these wrecked machines _looking like_ Apples aren't _actually_ Apples. Is that what you are saying? Are you sure you _know_ what a 'life' is?
As an electronic design engineer I was looking at Apple in 1976 when they introduced the Apple 1 computer. I thought then it was a product that had potential but was poorly designed. My problem with Apple even then was their business practices and the way they treat their customers. They have a reputation for screwing their customers with high prices and producing products with a built-in limited life span and are also closed systems to make you buy the next generation of product from them when the product dies or becomes obsolete. People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics. Even when screwed by Apple they just continue to buy their crap for extremely high prices. I don't understand their thinking but it is their money to spend any way they like. I refuse to ever buy an Apple product from 1976 till today.
So...43 years ago..in the absolute infancy of personal computers, you thought that the Apple 1 computer had potential but was poorly designed? You were one of the people that was able to get your hands on one of the 200 units made and critiqued its design? What experience did you have in personal computing did you have at this time? Or..did you just look at a picture of the machine? "People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics." LMAO. Is that your statement? Funny..most people buy these devices because they don't..and don't want to understand electronics. They just want a device that works smoothly. They want to turn it on and use it. Which is exactly what Apple provides. This is why people keep buying Apple products...I don't understand how you can have any idea what it is like to own an apple product if you never have had one? How did you know how they treat their customers? I will tell you this. When my son was in college we offered to buy him a mac desktop..he wanted a PC. We advised against it but he insisted he wanted a PC. We bought him a Dell Inspiron. As far as I could tell he never had a problem with the hardware..but he was constantly dealing with malware and virus's. People are willing to pay more for a product that works. Back in the day I had a Dell, Packard Bell and IBM desktops. I liked them at the time. After I bought my first iMac I was hooked. Everything just worked flawlessly. No virus's no problems. I have had 2 iMacs, 3 ipads, 5 iphones, apple TV, apple watch, two macbook pros, ipods, ipod shuffle and a time capsule. The only problems I had were..the first iMac, hard drive failed after 9 years. Apple replaced it at the Apple store for just the cost of the part. My time capsule had multiple hard drive failures. Great product idea but I had a lot of problems with it. See, unlike you I don't care what anyone else buys..I buy what works for me. According to your summation you make me out to a crazy person. Why? Again, if you have never bought an Apple product how can you tell people what that experience is like? So..people that buy PC's and Android products understand electronics and aren't crazy? lol. You see, I can only tell you about my experiences. You talk about products having a built in limited life span? What consumer electronics product doesn't? One last point...everyone that has a smartphone now has more information on it than at home. With that being said, Android is so far below Apple in data safety it is not even in the same universe. Which is part of the reason the android platform is much more customizable. I still get a kick out of reading that you don't like the way Apple treats there customers..lol...saying that and NEVER having owned an Apple product. So..you just read what other people say and make it gospel? BTW..I was 16 in 1976..how old were you?
@@kevinshea5819 are you criticizing an electronic engineer? I can't stop laughing, a simple customer who says at an engineer how he should see things/products with a critical eye... You wrote something unreadable for how long It Is, just to say to an engineer "you didn't have the instruments to see the product properly", well guess what, you surely don't have and Will never have the critical eye the engineers have 'cause you don't want to criticize what you have a feeling for. It doesn't exist you can even think to tell to an engineer how he should see the products/things cause your blindness Is the cause Apple does shitty quality products, and since they know It's their weak point, they take advantage of conditions in their warranty programs to screw the the customer (you). This type of people doesn't demonstrate coherence to criticize someone else's thinking, so live in your Little world and shut up! You have what you deserve; pay a lot to solve nothing, but leave in peace Who doesn't want to do the same.
Anto G Well as a PhD candidate in engineering at an R1, I can assure you that OP is full of BS. Steve Wozniak is a genius and revolutionized the personal computer using innovative circuitry with the Apple I and some Atari games. You can hate Apple today but saying the Apple 1 was poorly designed makes 0 sense. If that was the case Apple would have never grown as it did. Furthermore, a ton of innovation with the GUI and usability happened on the mac. It’s one thing to disagree with the direction Apple took or dislike their current hardware, but denying the impact it had is a whole new level of BS hating.
@@diverman1023 don't make confusion, i'm an engineer and i lived the transformation of seeing something with "new eyes". I replied to the post in which someone who demonstrates to don't have the instruments to criticize products (the customer "eye") tells to someone who can have the instruments to see critically "you're wrong, i'm right", asking about the age and other things which are useless in this topic (attacking firstly the person, not what have been added to the discussion). This Is the attitude which create confusion. You've done the right thing; in synthesis you said: "i don't share what Richard said cause i see those things which make me say that It was well designed." There was an argumentation and you did It without attacking the person, this Is how a constructive discussion Is. Also you replyed to something old (Apple I), i was talking about something newer (post 2008), so don't make confusion; about Apple I, talk directly to Richard, about Apple post 2008 i can participate to the discussion, about what i've said to Kevin don't name Apple cause the subject was the attitude to demonstrate a critical thinking, which Kevin doesn't have; the fact It was defending Apple was a plus, if he tried to defend another brand in the same way i could write something very similar.
@@diverman1023 anyway, what today happens demonstrates that the consensus doesn't come only After quality, so i can say that the reasons Apple has grown so much aren't only in the potential of the Apple I (also because all the big party people who didn't help Apple to grow up, i don't remember specifically the names of the the reference of the PC market, but i remember that most of them didn't accept to help Apple, cause they also didn't see sufficient potential in their project). I don't think these people were stupids and i understand what Richard could have think: something these big names could have think also. So, Apple surely had success but the reasons aren't so simple to find and understand...
Still having issues with my iphone x after it's been 'repaired' at apple. Random, very rapid 'ghost touches' all over the screen as well as not responding until I forcefully press at the very bottom of the screen. Guess I didn't learn from when my 2012 macbook pro used to burn my wrist when typing...
I am so happy to live in The Netherlands, where you can actually legally hold a company liable on an individual basis instead of class action suits. We just have a law that requires vendors to replace/repair a part/product if the initial cost of it, suggests a certain longevity.
Okay, but consumers end up paying for those costs. I’m guessing computers are far more expensive in the Netherlands than the U.S. The manufacturers and retailers just spread out the costs into higher computer prices.
‘Cheaply built’ ok, like my lovely plastic dell which shredded my DVD while I typed on it because there was no material between the keyboard and the optic drive. Your argument seems to be simply that Apple products are flawed, and it takes longer than seems necessary to amend the design flaws. I feel your pain, but honestly, I find this is just a growing trend, electronics are today’s version of expensive disposable cameras. Dell, HP, Apple, Samsung. All very flawed and designed to fail. They want you to buy a new one in 2-3 years. And... honestly, by then you wouldn’t really want to still be using the machine as it will be reliant on what is now outdated tech. If you analyze the circuits in any modern product, you will find many flaws. At the end of the day, there has to be such a thing as ‘good enough to ship’. They can’t spend 5 years designing and perfecting the next model, they come out every 6 months anymore. I work in IT, and I know as well as you do; if none of this stuff ever broke down, we wouldn’t have a job. Under HEAVY use, I literally EXPECT failure: Monitors max 5 years Mouse/keyboard 1 year Desktop 2-3 years Laptop 1.5 years major repair, 3 years salvage/dead Hard drive 2 years tops SSD 2-3 years maybe Bottom line is unless you are babying machines, they will break simply from use and wear. In a busy work environment, the data and continued productivity is crucial and downtime or lack of machines far outweighs the comparably small size of doing some repairs or even replacing a batch of machines. Perfect machines that never fail just wont happen.
thejpkotor Dell is the only manufacturer worst than Apple. Get yourself a quality Asus laptop. I still have one running strong since 2010. The battery died sometime ago but that’s expected.
Apple makes a great operating system. The best part of Apple is that it’s based off of Unix. For a closer version of Unix install home brew. One of the things I truly love about Apple is mission control. I’ve tried Windows task viewer and I really don’t like it with dual monitors. I still don’t like their hardware and I’m still using a Mac mini 2011 and a MacBook Pro 2012 because I don’t like their soldered ram or soldered SSD. They could have easily upgraded the removable ram on the Mac mini to potential 64 gigs of ram and kept the two bays for 2.5 inch drives or added m.2 SSD dockets, but no they want to make their machines in fixable so if the ram or ssd go back a whole logic board has to be replaced. The best Macs are the hackintosh ones, although there days maybe numbered with the ARM processor design.
Apple doesn't make thier own OS. OSX and iOS are based on FreeBSD. It's a split of the code that they keep updating with new features as FreeBSD releases them then drops their own features on top of. They write a pretty wrapper for it and add in some proprietary stuff on top. The core OS, Apple has never written. Just get that out of your head right now. Apple hasn't written an OS in decades. What Apple creates are what Linux people would call Distributions. A lot of the big under the hood advances come from FreeBSD, not Apple. Here's the real kicker though. All those proprietary Apple connections. Apple HAD to write those themselves. FreeBSD comes out of the box with support for all the industry standards. To create all those things Apple had to set out with the goal of not using standards they already had all the work done for them on and decide to create those proprietary Apple products just to screw customers. It gets worse. Apple purposely removed shell access from the consumer so consumers could not go in and reenable FreeBSD features Apple didn't want them to have. Say what you want about Microsoft. They've expanded shell access. Apple straight up removes it.
@@halycon404 No wonder why homebrew is so popular. Yeah I definitely need to play more with Powershell on Windows. If windows could only something better for dual monitors like apple does mission control I think I would use windows more. I would love for microsoft and Linux to beat Apple. I haven't played with FreeBSD except of course the little bit on Apple. I have played with the Raspberry Pi 4 for of Debian Im not sure how that compares to Debian. One of the great things about Linux is that you can run it on practically any hardware. There is no you have to get a new phone or a new computer with pure Linux.
@@jonny777bike Android is based on Linux. There's a low spec mode to turn off all the pretty graphical party tricks and some of the bells and whistles. In which case it runs on anything, it's also more stable than the full feature version we use. For pure usability us rich folks chasing the newest and best phones get the worst version. There's a reason Android phones pretty much have 90% of the global market. Apple is only a concern in the richest countries. There's entire continents where Apple is less than 1%. Globally Google and Microsoft won the consumer space, it isn't even close. And Linux won in server space, even Microsoft runs a lot of its infrastructure on Linux.
Person at an ant trap: Pfff how could ants fall for something so obvious? At mouse trap: how are mice so stupid? At bear trap: Really, Bears? Come on! Person: *Ooh boy! The new iPhone 37!*
Steve is a genius in computer, but he is more than a genius in marketing, he use the advantages of people thinking he gonna give them good products, those products were created to fails, and those people still buy more and thinking to themselves: "This product is bad, but it probably the best bEcAusE he was know a genius in computer". So yeah, your statement is absolutely right
This is truly an age of chosing which company would you like to be screwed with. You put your faith in one company hoping they don't screw you up that bad compared to other companies
I'm not an apple fan and I barely understand what it means xD Then again, I did watch the video on 2X speed so that miiiight have had something to do with it.
@@pocketanime Most videos are fine to watch in 2x, but sometimes the speaker talks in a way that doesn't translate well to faster speeds. Also it was roughly around midnight so sleep fatigue doesn't help either.
Yep, that's that we called it at my various jobs....trash can Macs. It was probably one of the worst designs for a computer. In a professional rack mount environment, you can imagine how the trash can Mac would fit in or wouldn't ...and it didn't. We had to sit them on rack mount shelves, taking up much more room in the rack then it should. Had to design/get... custom made rack mount hardware for them, sometimes. This is what I thought and said when they came out first...what was Apple thinking when they conjured up this design? The rest of Apple product lines through out the years were never a cup of my tea anyway....design and reliability -wise. They are totally out of the server business now...remember the X-Serve?
In Norway we have 5 year warranty (Its called "reklamasjonsrett" ,and it gives the consumer a lot of power). Exception is battery. They have 3 years of reklamasjonsrett. Can take the case to a govermental agency if the store/brand does not want to comply. Works pretty well, and Apple has lost a ton of cases this way. If they Lie about product, or have made it with fault you have right to money back, FREE fix or some compensation.
@@machtundrebel3127 I know right. Its so annoying having the security of "free" school and healthcare. And regulations on how much companies can scam us. Everyone over here hate it so much. xD Its not socialism tho. You need school.
years ago i had a girlfriend who got me a iphone for my birthday. I needed a new phone, i broke mine a few days before.. She is no longer my girlfriend.
My only Apple product is an iPod that I got as a gift like 6-7 years ago. And it already had at least 2 owners before me. It still works fine, aside from the "adjust volume" buttons on the side not working anymore and the "power" button needs to be pressed hard for it to work. Screen is shattered but still works (dropped it around a million times over the years). So all in all, that's pretty good for a portable device. My android phone only lasted 2 years before I dropped it one too many times and it stopped turning on. But still, the android had so much better functionality. I could use it as usb drive, I could easily put in and switch SD cards, installing apps was easier, putting music (or movies or any media) onto it didn't require a program (iTunes), and putting music (or again movies etc...) didn't require you to have an exact copy of your library on your PC (otherwise the missing files from your pc will also be deleted from your iPod for some fucking reason), I could take out the back panel without ease, while the iPod can't be taken apart, the iPod has this stupid Apple USB cable that isn't standard for any other company (and more expensive too), while I had around 10 other cables in my home for my android phone that I could use to charge it or connect it to my pc.... I could go on forever but you get the point.... it just sucks that Apple devices don't have these features which are standard for any other device on the market.....
Same here, never owned an Apple product and i am pissed for a good reason. Apple jacks up the prices, and the rest do the same. So Apple screws over everybody, even non-Apple sheep.
The Chillmaster That is true, but even still. When a reviewer gets a pair of beats headphones, they almost always say it has that "beats sound" (not really a good thing, but it might suit some people's taste) and they recommend to be careful with them since the headphone band can't bend much. In my opinion, beats still need a hardware redesign/boost.
Quality is not bad (I've got Beats solo) but they definitely overpriced. No microphone (they're not full headset) it's something they do not advertise. It just uncomfortable when somebody is calling...
The Chillmaster they only got better because as time passes,audio quality gets better. Not because Apple is any good. Any company's headphones get better sound quality for the price as time passes.
I'm not technological-wizard, but I used to be really into computer hardware. I built my own PC, and have a pretty good understanding of specs. I've despised Apple for years now. I wish I could remember which laptop it was specifically, but I remember looking at one of their computers that was made in 2017, sold for over $2,000, and the thing had specs equivalent to a cheap smartphone. I'm talking 4G of ram, and this absolutely terrible dual core processer. It was in that moment that I truly grasped just how fucking awful they are. Selling what's essentially a $300 computer for the price of a used car.
My 2013 MacBook air 11” has those same specs :/ Needless to say, I’ve been planning on switching to pc once I have the money. (The laptop was a Christmas present several years ago)
Kasai i dont know my sister has a macbook air from the 13 or 14 and it might not be a beast but it is very durable. We fling that thing across the room and nothing would happen to it.On the other hand, I got a hand me down iphone 7 and that shit is flimsy and unreliable.
No Name for most people, the audio fizzles out after a while because some audio chip got loose. The problem happens to a lot of these iphone 7s so as far as apple products go; the iphone 7 and 7 plus aren’t reliable.
Nokia DOES still make phones. They release phones with android os and they still have classic Nokia build quality and strength. (and no its not the 3310 disgrace of a remake they made, they make actual phones like Samsung)
People have simply become stupid and lost their ability to think critically. It's in most parts of the world right now, people think the earth is flat, people think religion is real, people think aliens are amongst us, some people think they should storm Area 51 because "they have aliens there".. People aren't smart.
@@OriginalPuro Your first sentence (or it's second half) is correct. But later... Except "area 51" is nothing but a running joke, as are the aliens, religion is very real as it always has been, Earth may, or may not be flat - as a common person, you cannot prove either way. In conclusion, you are the one not sounding very smart mate. Sort yourself out.
No, man. Thank YOU. Unfortunately, I discovered your channel just 3 days back. Going through a lot of your videos now, very relevant even today. Because a lot of the things you talk about are very basic. Things that are applicable from the beginning of time to the end of it. There are two kinds of videos on youtube. One that thinks for you, others that make YOU think yourself. You have figured out how to do both. Bravo.
Even though I've been buying Apple products since 2007: MacBook Pro, 2 Mac Pros (cheese grater and trash can), 2 iPhones including 12 Pro Max, 3 iPads (2 iPad Pros including M1 iPad Pro) AirPods Pro, iPod, large monitor, bluetooth keyboard, dongle/adaptors, etc., ... the only malfunction I've had with any of these devices so far is the battery on the 2007 MacBook Pro expanded and Apple replaced it for free immediately. But I watch your videos anyway because you are so damned entertaining and persuasive ... even though all my brand new and 'antique' Apple products are all still working perfectly ... your videos make me almost believe that everyone's Apple products must be malfunctioning on a massive scale ... I guess I'm the only lucky one 🍀 🍀 🍀 😃
Anyone else listen to rants like this from Louis Rossman and pretend its a bedtime story. Its so satisfying hearing apple get roasted more than their own graphics chips, it helps me sleep.
Just like the phone slow down because of batteries and bricking phones with replacement screens. They make their products obsolete long before they should be.
lacucaracha111111 true but considering how much cash Apple has I highly doubt that they didn't notice any of these problems while in testing, the only answer is that they purposefully let this stay.
Erick J. An Android phone keeps getting updates from the company that made it for 3-4 years, which I admit is less then Apples phones but considering how big the Android community is you can install the new version of Android if you want. Phones like the Nexus 4 and 5 are still being updated my fans in the community.
You forgot the iPhone slow down scandal. After they got sued, they released an update for my 6S and the phone suddenly started being fast again after months of random shut downs and touch screen malfunctioning. Edit: I should also mention that my Antutu benchmark score rose from 76000 to 110000 after the update (which is still worse than my initial score of 134000 when the phone was newer)
I mean my 6 was slower with the original battery in it. I tried turning off the battery protection and it would shut off around 15-20%. I get why they did it but they should have told people they were doing it.
Not only Antutu score has doubled in like 2015. Geekbench has also increased iPhone scores with newer versions. Compare Geekbench 2 to Geekbench 3 and 4 with same devices, and you'll be very surprised.
If you bought this iphone 6 on release date or the same year I still cannot see how this battery could be so horrible. Why they didnt just offer to replace batteries or allow users to replace them is still absurd. Throttling your phones performance because they lock you from changing your battery to me is BS which is why I still only buy phones with removal backing to have the option to replace your battery. Can you imagine if car companies did this? You would be screwed WOW!!
Yes. They're computers for people who don't really need computers. The ad campaign with the Mac and PC Guys was explicitly classist, and positioned Apple as a luxury brand rather than a producer of useful products.
@@pkunkbwok Actually, that's not always the case. I am a PC guy myself. I dislike Apple products, but my mom loves them a lot. She's got, an iPhone, an iPad and a Mac. She uses the latter when she needs to work while traveling, as it is pretty light. She says that that is the main reason why she uses a Mac for this. Also, guess who gets stuck with troubleshooting an unfamiliar system when something goes wrong?
@@interlamer7480 thats my life in a nutshell, except they dont just have apple devices, they sometimes screw up good devices by falling for stupid *U won 10k* shits that appears on random websites. And when it comes to their iphones, i always say, "I own an android tablet, A TABLET, thats a phone, im never familiar with iphones so i cant fix it dead ass"
well that's psychology. if you pay a huge amount for a luxury product, it has to be good. one can't admit, that he spent so much money for crap. so it's easier to defend the decision
They made experiences about this. Take two identical products. Put the price of one low, the other high. People will automatically assume the high price product to be better and worthwhile and would buy this one if they have the money.
@Emily Pace Every company produces *profitable*, not every company intentionally uses crap materials to milk you, not every company wants to screw you over, to become a trillion $ company. Only the worst, the few, the different.
@Emily Pace good luck getting it repaired, look at Linus Tech Tips and Snazzy Labs for examples of what you can expect. To be fair, you aren't nearly famous enough to get the service that they got. I'll stick to my modular PC (which as a qualified tech I can repair myself) and an android phone that I can have repaired or replaced locally (had an issue once) and I did have one instance where I had a Sony flagship replaced within the day (in a backwards country like South Africa) I geuss it is a matter of preference. You should get what you pay for. I do agree that some of the products that reach the end user has issues that were not picked up during quality checks. THE FACT IS THOUGH: IF THAT IS THE CASE IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROCESS TO HAVE IT REPAIRED OR REPLACED. Intelligent people vote with their money (IE. Stop buying from companies that sell shit)
Everytime I see a brand new Mac and think for a second on getting it as my next laptop I remember! Apple is full blown anti consumer and needs to be stoped! It's time (it is way overdue) to regulators step up
@@OG_Gyekye they make products that are counter intuitive and literally break themselves while you use them. they often fuck their customers over with bad support and often set very tight criteria as to when you're eligible to send their shit back
@@trugictra is their any proof of this? I need to know cause from the videos I’ve see. They’ve given proof and I just want to under if there’s any proof on the other side before I make my final decision
Imagine having to repair an unrepairable phone, that has no customization and isn't even that cool to look at -This post was made by the cheap android gang (Moto G8 Play best phone in Brazil lol)
É só no Brasil que Motorola faz sucesso mesmo, aqui o povo despreza Samsung pq eles só compram modelos ruins como J1/J8 em vez de pagar um pouco mais em um S7 Edge, que bate de frente com qualquer celular de hoje em dia.
I was attending a 4 year university for some classes, had just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, was playing Turtles 4 on a Super Nintendo emulator, as well as the four player X-men arcade game with a friend and I using 2 Xbox one controllers. Classmates were mesmerized asking me how I was able to get my phone to do that. I had to explain emulators, the Xbox controller drivers for Android, what a file manager is, etc. I am 40 and these were 18-21 year old kids. One asked me how he could get his phone to do that as he had an iPhone, I took great pleasure (in a nice way) of explaining why I despise Apple...fuck Apple!!!
Been laughing at Apple products for decades. I have always liked to build my own pcs, so seeing the price tags on apple for worse specs always made me cringe.
Ditto. I've been building my own PC'S for more than 20 years. If something goes bad, I can easily repair it. With Apple, that often not easy or possible.
your point is partially correct and partially wrong to be honest. specs arent everything. the specs argument has also become quite dull lately, but then again its not too wrong, just enough for me to complain about it.
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 specs define the pc's price. Yes they are important. No Apple is not giving enough specs to justify their pc's prices. Fuck apple.
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 @Cotonee "Specs aren't everything" What you said might be favorable for iOS vs android, (still not true, since apple's phone processors are literally a better "spec") but is actually the opposite for PC's. Mac OS isn't optimized for anything, it is written in a similar way to every other desktop operating system. It has been proven to have lower graphics and battery performance than windows running the same hardware. Apple just uses Intel CPUs - and they kept changing their CPUs too, so they have never optimized properly, and still suck at gaming. Now they're switching, again. Despite Windows' inconsistencies, it's actually written to be perform
@NeverSettlealone samsung is almost as bad as apple.. It's all overpriced hype. Learn to buy good products not good marketing and you mastered a skill that will improve your life and will save you money.
I know someone who is an apple fanboy and just recently bought was I think was the newest macbook for almost $2000. At first I didnt know he was a fanboy and offered to help him find a laptop/gaming laptop that can quintuple its usefulness and power. He straight up told me that he doesnt need all that because the only thing he does online is browse the internet, I just died inside.
Thanks, Lous... just took my Mac back the second time for repair. My wife: "Why don't you just buy a PC at Costco?". Me: "But I love my Mac!" Then I saw your videos, and my cult mentality became apparent.
Jeff Zekas, Apple are absolute Masters at “creating a Hype” for their products, and making people Believe in their products. Unfortunately the products don’t live up to the hype that they created in the first place. And don’t forget, Apple are just Marketing specialists, they don’t even produce their own products... they are just Awesome at Marketing, otherwise known as “the blah-Deeh-blah”
@@kazhilly Dude, What a crock. Apple designs their own motherboards and chips if necessary. They get consistently good reviews and performance ratings by the labs that do that kind of analyses. Apple's computer advertising budget is less than Dells, most of it is word of mouth, because most apple users are happy customers. Dude, get your GED and get a clue!
Get a decent PC and put a Linux distro that you like on it. There are some where the desktop simulates the crabapple look. Their OS is based on a linux kernel that nowadays runs on X64 hardware.
El Kiddo you clearly did not watch this entire video, and you clearly are another victim of Apple’s marketing. But hey, Thanks for the advice here, how nice to be told off by a “Kiddo”, that really adds further value to my life. You don’t have to believe me and it’s Fine if you don’t, but I know a few more things than you do about Apple as a business. Enough said.
I really appreciate your honesty, professionalism, detailed presentations, and aptitude for furthering your skills. Those are all traits that I aspire to emanate from my work.
Id say its engineering success. This type of engineering is what made them the first ever trillion dollar company. Making products easily breakable and paying ridiculous fees to repair them is the name of the game. They cant be this incompetent. It must be purposely designed like this.
Exactly. Its part of the business plan for sure. Make people pay as much/many times for their products and services as possible. Apple is one the most greedy companies out there, but then again people choose to support and buy their products themselves. So who is really to blame? But the REALLY shady business practices like saving money on repair and such. Greed from Apple knows no limit. And yet its OH SO TRENDY. Come on Apple is crap, and a parasite in the IT world.
The Auto Industry has done this for decades. You see this most often in Automatic Transmissions. Life on them is 60-80k miles. Realistically if built to the best possible standards with all of the aftermarket parts... 100-120k is more then possible. Usually it comes down to a little tighter tolerances to get the shift over faster... which means less heat and less wear on the clutches and more steel to reduce flexing and add strength. (replacing some aluminum parts for steel ones)
Oh yeah have you seen the new budget friendly iphone? Has the same resolution as a iphone 4(720p). Apple did this on purpose to create a gap between the 2 new iphones. Prompting you to get thr $1300 phone.
I know I’m late to the game as this was posted 4 years ago, but it was a shocking eye-opener. I’ve been a Mac guy for a couple decades and will find it difficult to ween myself from the eco system. I have owned some of those units without failure and have owned others and experienced those failures. Will definitely hesitate before my next purchase and will take a look at your suggested list of well build machines.
I dont really care about peoples opinion about apple of they hate it or not if android is better or not all devices are equal but apple sued samsung lol that sucks
Thanks for the video. As a software developer, I can say that everything you have said about Apple hardware is applicable to Apple software, Apple is the only company that can make developer software incompatible with they own devices.
Remember the switch to Intel chips? Glad I was done with Crapple by then. Oh wait...they rumored to switch again to in-house CPUs come 2020. Fun times to be had for the crapple sheep.
I will never understand why people buy Apple products. I've been using PC since around 2004, and yes, some of computers I've bought have been terrible. But the beauty of PC is that for desktops (and certain laptops) you can just replace whatever sucks because the unit is basically just a shell. And if you don't like the Windows operating system you can replace that too, just switch to Linux. Hell, you can even run macOS on a PC if you're so inclined.
@@sheheryarshahbaz911 I have both an imac an Iphone 7 and I can say that it sucks SO MUCH . 10-10 would never go buy it again. Prefer razor pc and an oppo f7
I feel many Apple buyers suffer from cognitive dissonance caused by buying an overpriced piece of hardware. Paying the high price creates the cognitive dissonance. This feeling of unease is resolved by convincing oneself that it's price is justified because it's a superior product. The problem arises when that piece of hardware fails. In such a case people who bought a cheap computer can easily come to the conclusion that it's just a cheap crappy machine. But it is not that easy for Apple buyers. Due to the cognitive dissonance they are highly motivated to come to another conclusion, hence the Apple story continues.
^this And this: www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/bps-wyc083116.php Everyone with their conclusion, but it doesn't look like Apple users are generally very nice people.
Based on the fact that he liked your comment and it was only posted 44 minutes ago, clearly he has seen my previous one and refuses to argue against my very valid point. hahaha
Apple isn't the best company in the world nor the worst. I respect Apple's first iPhone for making a smart phone that didn't suck ass in 2007 and also for SIRI which came out in 2011(those were huge selling points for the consumers), but the problem is that they push for this "INNOVATION" marketing brand and started marking up their prices for their PC's, when competitors sold for less and had equal components that rivaled the Apple PC products.
Apple is the most valuable company because Apple is the best company in the world. Economics doesn't lie. They make products everyone wants. If you think every Apple customer out there is a braindead moron, you are an asshat.
When did I say Apple customers are brain dead? people have multiple reasons to whether it'd be 4k Camera/Video or simple and reliable apps. Yes the numbers don't lie but have they thought what the consumer wanted or what to improve with their products? or the longevity of their products? Then again they are targeting people who have cash to spend. Even so, I don't like defending any sort of company since they all have one goal in mind, Profit Potential.
I'm still running iOS 8-point-something on my 5s specifically for that reason, if I could have it my way I'd still be on iOS 7. This phone will last me forever if I never update it.
Is there a most recent video like this for the issues with 2018 models? Louis is the most knowledgeable person I've ever seen on UA-cam for Macs wow wtffff
max bkt so you don't care if other people get screwed over? Says alot. Who cares if other people are dying in a hurricane on the other side of the country it doesn't affect me so why should taxes go to repairing and helping their lives it doesn't do anything for me. That's you. A fool.
max bkt That's sad? NO It is BS. Here is why. When a Company screws over consumers and fans keep buying than this same Company will continue to screw people over. This also spreads to other Companies as they will see how dumb people are and will join in on this trend and screw others over as well. Just look at the gaming industry with XBOX and PlayStation, and if you think they aren't screwing people over than I recommend that you watch some videos here on youtube. Nintendo is just as bad as well. ' I have to also ask. How do you know Clockwork doesn't hate apple because of a product he has bought, or knows someone that has bought a product. Apple is HORRIBLE. I personally am happy to see them on top that list of bad companies right along side of EA. They do not care about you, will make a cheap product and market it as if you are dumb and charge you way too much money for it. What is sad to me is that you come here bashing someone that doesn't like apple. Are you a fanboy? I hope you learned something from this video. If you did not than you are a reason for horrible practices that apple and other companies make. Thanks!!!!
Great video! I am extremely lucky - I’ve never had an Apple device fail on me! However … my first Mac was the “MacBook Pro Mid 2012 unibody non-retina” - about the *only* one without hardware design flaws (except thermal). Thermal paste + fan control is the first app I ever install. 4TB SSD! Also, MBP 17” 2009 secondhand, $50 and a proper cap from your website. And MBP 17” mid-2012 (home-made), and iPhone 4S, 5S, 6s, 8. Won’t buy anything newer than Unibody mi$-2012 and iPhone 8 Plus. Keep up the good work and #RightToRepair!
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What's the alternative then Louis? A WINDOWS laptop? Please, just no. It's only recently that linux destops have grown to provide a decent alternative and even they lack the smooth integration to the backups and media sources. Apple is not just a hardware producer, it produces an ecosystem that works far better than the competition. When it works.
@@dingdong2103 Wish linux laptops become a decebt and fast option one day. I don't want a laptop that i would want to get rid of 3 years later bcs of not enough performance for me 💀
This video, 3.5m views speaks the truth and still doesn’t have enough views it should.
@@texrot9781 you must not be married yet stay safe young person
@@barryoverson4988 Thanks kind sir
The People: "You're just selling us the same shit every year"
Apple: "Yes, but every year, it'll be a little more expensive"
and a little more broken
Apple fans: Shut up and take my money!
And every year you'll queue up 5 hours to buy new shit from us! ... so, why not?
And every year you'll buy it!
Because we are Apple and you will buy any shit we put on disply.
Other companies should adopt the slogan "don't think different, think better" just to piss apple off
#Don’tthinkdiffrent,thinkbetter
#dontthinkdifferentthinkbetter
Think different? Think better
or
Think different? Just think!
Knowing big companies like Apple, they would probably send a cease and desist for using those words in their own slogan lol
"They don't expect people to buy Apple products even after all their problems that they have, do they?" Yes... yes they do...
Apple.
Yesterday's technology
At tomorrow's prices
Mix in a little bit of 'courage' and you got a winner that will sell like hotcakes.
+ Ony stupid selfish egoist snob buy "less for more". All for public. The center of attention is cool for biznesmen or idiot.
Apple.
Last decade's technology
at next decade's prices.
Elfferich, "you're marketing skills" = "you are marketing skills"
I liked it, But then i removed the like. At this point you are at 666likes and i wanna leave it like this, so here is your like +1... Also i am getting a T-shirt with this on it.
Reminds me of Nintendo fanboys saying "You're just using the sticks too hard" whenever someone complains about joy-con drift.
When the real issue is dust protection of the joycons
Ikr, what kind of a piece of shit controller breaks from regular use? Literally every controller I've ever had for any system, including other nintendo systems, lasts forever unless I drop them or lose them, I've used gamecube and xbox controllers so long that the rubber on the control sticks eroded away, but they still work! Meanwhile this Fisher-price trash joycon malfunctions within a few months. Ninty is really slipping, hopefully that class action lawsuit pays out soon
@@tongpoo8985 Fisher-price lmao. I think even Fisher-price products last longer
@@tongpoo8985 I got a lot of controllers. Some are even over 20 years old and they work like day 1. My Joycons on the other hand... They broke after a month of playing(I got bigger hands, the only controller that fits properly is the original duke controller for the OG Xbox)
Only an asshole gets emotionally attached to their purchases.
He manages to make a good amount of money repairing Apple products, but still he suggests every one to not buy Apple products. Huge respect for your dedication and the ethics you put on your job.
Basically liberals. “I hate Capitalism ! Support my small business though !” How do you hate he who gives you a job. If Apple didn’t exist Louis Rossman’s youtube career wouldn’t exist in the caliber that it’s in. Let’s be real. But just like it’s cool for a community to love Apple, this is a community where it’s cool to hate Apple. Ironically, they don’t understand that they’re on two different sides of the same obsessed coin.
@@patrickhenry1249 Why somebody would try to repair a product with no issues? That does not make sense :-D
@@KjvYaBoii you are a dickhead
big pp play
@@KjvYaBoii How fucking crazy obsessed are you that you took this to political and economic labels....capitalism vs yada yada yada. These are corporations, they manufacture goods and there is a predictable failure and defect rate of every part and a lifespan. These corporations, like Apple, mix and match their part selection to make their products disposable and short lived, many reaching obsolescence within a year of release. And Apple...Apple is special with this because they try to take COMMON technology, make it attractive to you so you buy it, even though it's more proprietary than a car(you technically don't even own the entire device, you're a licensee), so no one can touch them, like they're some kind of medical device manufacturer. They aren't selling you a product, they're selling you a business relationship with them, where so long as you have their product, you are stuck with them for maintenance and upkeep. And what better way to repeatedly pressure resale than to get you when you're vulnerable and without the device you crave connection to. This is what this man is showing you and folks get on here, though in small numbers, and try to talk about Apple being his paycheck...He's a electrical engineer idiots-he doesn't need a corporation, he has skills not tied to any single manufacturer. He's in insider trying to tell you you're sheep and MOST the things he's seen from Genius Bar and Geek Squad are freebie fixes so don't trust them. This isn't how free trade and capitalism are supposed to coexist, so why you would bring this to politics is beyond me. Apple is a prime example how Capitalism is NOT suppose to work in the US. Monopolies are supposed to be banned, huge corporations are not supposed to be allowed to control entire markets.
People on ebay seem to think that Apple products don't deprecate: 'I bought this iMac 5 years ago for £2,000. I spilled Starbucks on it so I'm only asking for £1,900'.
Lmaoo
But the spilled Starbucks would increase the value!!
If someone uses Starbucks and Apple positively in the same sentence avoid them at all costs
I recently went to eBay in hopes of replacing my deceased 2011 MacBook Pro. They were selling it for just as much as it would cost to buy a 2019 MacBook Pro. Madness.
JOEmega64 Buy a PC man, so much better
Seriously, there was a CNBC or abc or something news story where they went into an apple store to get a MacBook repaired, and the dude said something about water damage, then said they’d need to charge $1100 for repairs and $100 in labor, and $600 to reset the sensors or something
They took it down the road to a repair shop and the dude bent a pin and it worked just fine
oooohhhh, you will never believe just WHO was that dude)
Here is the link in case you are interested)
ua-cam.com/video/o2_SZ4tfLns/v-deo.html
Who fixed it was rossman lol
it's in the same channel you are watching this video from
That dude was this dude dude :p The dudest of all dudes
Imran Hossain I figured that out like a week later
That was Rossman. I saw the same news story too.
Back when 4G first came out, I specifically remembered when apple released The Apple IPHONE 3GS and people where lined up almost outside the Mall to get this "ALL NEW SMART PHONE" That was 3G capable, I was left scratching my head wondering why.....
as I walked in the opposite direction looking at all the Die-Hard Appletons, I held up my 4G Samsung Galaxy and kept repeating myself asking them: "ARE YOU NOT ALL AWARE 3G HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED BY 4G NOW? SAMSUNG HAD 4G PHONES OVER HALF A YEAR!!"
That was the moment I realized
How deep apples influence ran.
When a tech company can have customers lining up to buy yesterday's technology at Tomorrow's Prices is Nucking Futs
Your G’s are designed to control or kill you.
😂but 4g coming out that recent is completely useless since like 5G when it came out, their was barely any towers resulting in spotty signal
Guess what, nobodg gives a damn, it's tech - let people buy what they want not what you think is better. Sad how you believe tech companies define the who people are .
@@DanielTheMathematicianHow old are you? Do you know what a scam is? Do you understand the video or the comment?
@@lexluthor3811 Can't 4G enabled devices also use 3G, and 5G enabled devices use 3/4G too? Adding compatibility with promising nascent technologies to your devices is futureproofing, and it's great. I wouldn't judge someone who bought a new phone that wasn't compatible, but I'm gonna squint a little at a company who charge _a lot_ of money to their customers for regular upgrades not using the latest technology.
1:01 - 2008 Macbooks with hinge problem.
5:00 - Capacitor that would fail to provide power to GPU because it's not supposed to be used with AC.
6:10 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail
7:10 - iPhone 5 power button problem.
7:27 - Another MBP Problem with GPU failure, due to came capacitor that was causing problem on a 2008 model.
(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products.)
11:04 - Result of the GPU/display problem, Apple getting lawsuit'd.
11:45 - apple giving out refurbished boards as warranty.
the boards given out by apple as warranty replacement has signs of rework/soldering on them.
13:07 - Another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method.
14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again).
16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue.
18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies.
20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue.
21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue.
Lord's work
cheater00 and yet at Apple there isn't much of a choice either.
People don't know because they don't look for it, even this video can't so nothing for them.
But by any means:
- Any Dell XPS from 2015 to 2018
- Any Thinkpad really
- Matebook pro for the style obsessed ;)
Etc.
the problem is, every other manufacturer is making almost same shit designs that it feels like that they purposely doing this so that units will fail after couple of years. You cant possibly show any better alternatives to people unless we were in 2010..
Any brand that makes though (do actually works forna long years) laptops or phones already get bankrupt and erased from history.
I highly recommend you to read brave new world. Because this is how new world order looks like.
cheater00 // don’t trust apple hardware. That’s why I buy anything else that are compatible with hackintosh
You missed out the massive problem of retina MBPs having their anti-reflective coating peel off and look absolutely horrible, and still not being fixed 5 years later. The screen replacement program has been running since 2015, it's insane
I've had a pretty deep hatred of Apple ever since a malfunctioning Mac caused me to fail my multimedia final (which was 50% of my grade) in high school. "You probably did something wrong." my Apple fanatic friend says as they place their smashed screen iPhone on my coffee table before bending down to search between the carpet fibers for the $300 airpods they dropped.
F
You did do something wrong. You didn't shove the Mac up your friend's ass like they deserve one-another!
Did you hold down the GPU constantly even though it’s not supposed to come off? No? Well, then that’s your fault.
In all seriousness, this is horrible. Absolute bullshit. Making money is more important than someone’s future, apparently.
@@Pigninjius "It Just Works!"
Remember that?
F
How many Apple cult members does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, it's a proprietary light bulb only serviceable under the protection plan by a certified Apple Technician.
Siri wont laugth.
Oops your warranty has run out. Please buy an extension for $950
I'm sorry. Apple does not repair 'vintage' hardware. You'll have to buy a new house to put that light in.
@ Alan Rizkallah What certified Apple Technician ??? Are they really able to identify real malfunctioning issues, or are just there to swap components until it works again??? In that case, anyone can do that....Oh and don't even start me over the "Genius-es" at the Apple stores....I would just loooove to catch one and strangle him a little with one power cord from a macbook 2013 model, the MagSafe :-)))
Jokes aside, _Apple_ actually *is* a textbook totalitarian cult. Deliberately built this way using a cult-building manual. It's same as Scientology, probably inspired by it.
Just watched this again in 2021.
Apple is even more successful than ever before. Why do Apple users keep forgiving this company?
It is hard to fathom for me.
They don't. Apple just keeps shaming them into it. It's like, "Heeey, you don't want everyone at Whole Foods to think you aren't keeping up with them ... do you? It would be a shame if , you know, you walked in with such an old phone. People might wonder if you only buy organic ... every now and then... Hmm We'll just mass text everyone and let them know you'll get your budget together soon, mmk ... maybe see if they can donate any spare charging cables and adapters since they won't need them ... ever."
Like how the majority of Muricans wants Trump to screw them over again in the presidential election of no one in the world cares of 2020.
Apple’s more successful because they finally made Mac’s worth buying for more than their first-party software. Questionable upgrade prices aside, their performance, engineering and value are leagues better than the dark ages of the mid-2010’s. (This is from a non-Mac guy)
My family’s been using Apple products for years, so all our photos, videos, documents, etc are stored in the Apple cloud; we’re basically having our data being held hostage, and that’s the reason my dad gives me whenever I propose a switch.
@@1337Superfly Not an easy switch if you're my parents I guess.
When you realize their a fashion company and not an electronic company it will all make sense.
Holy shit you're right
Its a luxury item made for degenerates
they’re*
The new iSock
Starting from $999999.99
when a fashion company releases a 6000u$s desktop cheese grater last year.
I grew up using Apple's products. Through high school I was that kid arguing with my friends over mac vs. windows. Now in my 30's, I switched to windows three years ago and haven't looked back. Thanks for telling it like it is.
S4nari I had a similar arguments of Motorola vs Apple. I miss my little flip phone Motorola. That sucker lasted me 3 years and still worked like brand new, despite being thrown, dropped, and rough handled.
I'd settle for macOS (A certified UNIX operating system) over Windows any-day of the week. Thankfully, I can build a Hackintosh and run macOS on decent hardware. Apple really needs to correct its hardware path.
Agreed.
Apple use to be great machines. I have such fond memories of my Apple II. But that Apple is long gone.
@Evi1M4chine These are all the apple hardware products I've ever used: Macintosh Plus, Macintosh II, iBook, first-generation iPod, Original iMac, Power Mac G4, PowerBook G4 12", iPod touch, MacBook Air, Ipad, Macbook Pro, Mac Pro, ipod Nano, Iphone 6, Ipad Pro. Not listed here is the multitude of mac only software that went along with these machines including things like Final Cut Pro. So yeah, I have experience with their products, both currently and throughout the companies history. Nothing in my comment would suggest that I confuse software and hardware, I've used it all since the late 80's. The pricing of their products are not justified by the return of any extra processing power or availability of exclusive software. Also, being able to run one OS on the other machine is irrelevant.
customer: " OH MY GOD! my macbook pro for 3000€ start overheating and i saw some smoke too! "
Apple: So buy a new one right?
customer" : yea thanks Apple, i lowe u.
bro you look like hawkeye
@@shahtayyib hawkeye look like me
Apple repaired all 2009 models with the Glue issue for free, also unhinged displays.
Dont believe everything you hear online.
@@Batsot You may have forgotten to mention that this SHOULD NOT HAPPEN for the price tag of 3000 dollars.
@@Batsot why should i believe you then lmao
"And the issue here is that this one chip after it dies, will short a main power rail to ground."
I'm sorry, *what*?!
What kind of design is that? That's like if you designed a car fuel system that would randomly stop working, and when it stops working it would just ignite all the fuel in the tank.
"Think different."
I've been using Android and avoiding Apple like the plague. When I got my job 2 years ago, they gave me an iPhone to use. I hated it. The menus are clunky and our business app crashed constantly. The camera didn't know what app was using it and wouldn't focus properly. Those are just a few of the complaints I had. I'll never buy an Apple product. Especially after seeing this video. I recently helped a friend fix their MacBook. It installed Mountain Lion, an old version. You have to manually update it to a slightly newer version before you could just install the new version. Wtf.
Nicki Boling which iphone was it?
@@splatooner808 fortnite players dont have an opinion
TheMetalCactus you know some of us aren’t annoying and are actually sensible people
Splatooner 808 no fetuses don’t have an opinion
TheMetalCactus redditors don’t have an opinion
I have a cheap 4-5 years old HP laptop that I dropped a few times, spilled water on it's keybord, and it works absolutely fine like new
That's why HP isn't worth $900bn. When HP also start to make crappy products and charging twice the price - then their stocks will sky rocket
@@lookoutforchris whats cost of ownership?
I have Asus k55vd which is 9 years old and still running. All i did was i have changed hdd to ssd and added a bit of RAM. Epic laptop
My mother had her HP laptop for over 10 years and had to stop using it only because the performance was getting too low.
Tbh I had an HP 10 years ago and it died hard due to a motherboard failure. I'm not fond of HP all that much any more.
And Apple's LATEST engineering failure is putting an Intel Core i9 in a thin 2018 MacBook Pro. Cooling is so poor that the i9 can't even maintain its BASE clock speed under heavy load due to thermal throttling. This means the premium you pay for the i9 gives you LESS performance than the i7 version in some cases!
YEAH! The last masterpiece.
S
Its not actually the core i9 that is getting to hot, but the driver chips that provide the power to the i9 cpu, and that is why this macbook is throttling down the speed, those chips can't compete with the "power hungry" i9 chip, so the chip doesn't receive its full power because the drivers are boiling themselves of the board, this macbook will die in about 13 to 14 months, and many will think it is a dead cpu while the actual problem are those boiling driver chips, and these chips are made by apple and nobody can provide those, so apple has made a unfixable machine again that will fail in a very short amount of time, unless repair shops can get their hands on donor boards, but the i9 model is simply to new
kevin12567 ya the i9 is something that would be used in a desktop because it needs a water cooling system
and thats what they were working on for 2 years
you don't need water cooling for an i9, matter of fact is that air coolers are actualyl better for cooling, water cooling is actually less efficient than air cooling, it's just quieter.
Many Apple flaws are there because management refuses to believe that a perfect company could possibly have a flawed product - you know. a cult. When I was working at Apple I found an obvious flaw and a simple fix for the iMac-7 fan control problem. It was huge electrical noise emissions from a poorly designed power supply distorting data on a nearby cable. "You're wrong. We have good power supplies" my boss said, totally ignoring the facts and evidence which I had found. I left that goofy place soon after. iMac-7 went into production, then all I read in user reviews were complaints about the fan.
Not my problem anymore.
Ur boss was just sucking his bosses dick. Don't take it personally. That's how it works in corporations. Its one big dick sucking fest
Finally, someone who doesn't just bash Apple mindlessly, but with some facts to back it up. Thumbs up!
Yes! This is a message I can get behind.
If I see any Apple fanboys I can send them here and watch their brains melt from through the Interwebs.
You dont need to be a wiz tech to know Apple products are fuckin garbage. Their computers are alright tho
@@umbrellacorporation9168 you can get a better computer for the same price tho
lol... thing is bullshit (like this) baffles brains
@@joshm.9427 I said their computers are "Alright not amazing 😛
Nice video, I like how you not only discussed the problems , but showed the exact design failures in real life and explained where Apple failed to back their own products up.
This reminds me of issues I see daily in auto repair, where the manufacture knows for a fact they have a design failure, but instead blames the customer or pretends it is normal wear and tear.
Apple is a marketing company, not a tech company
Apple Inc. is an American multinationaltechnology company headquartered in Cupertino, California, that designs, develops, and sells consumer electronics, computer software, and online services. Wikipedia
@@Almin88
The joke
Your head
@@Almin88 r/whoosh
+OrangeOctopus Clearly you do not think differently...
OrangeOctopus clearly you are susceptible to their marketing
That actually makes sense. My dad's Macbook was under warranty for this graphics issue, and got a replacement board but failed a few months later
The worst part of all of this is not Apple's faulty designs or engineering errors, not even the way they treat their customers, late recalls and GPU warranty fixes only if the machine boots, but the fact that other companies are copying both the shitty designs and the shitty behaviour of Apple, spreading the cancer across the whole consumer electronic product segments. No EOM spares, no recalls, and a "it should last only 2 years" mentality. Apple is dangerous for us repairers and for all the segment everywhere. Support the right to repair. Support freedoom.
Apple fanboys are coming lol
Exactly, and to go even further: Every industry, even before Apple was around, takes advantage of the system they run on. Freedom of choice is always there, but the obstacles to get started or even survive with a new/competing product are stifling (cable industry comes to mind). We can pass the blame around to whomever, the point is there is always this problem, and I'm with Louis about looking into solutions. Not just for consumer electronics, but business- and customer-handling as a whole.
The new XPS from Dell are designs rip off of Dell and are actually better XD However, no matter how much you prove, you come out with fact, you do whatever logics you want, the power of Apple's marketing and brand will always shade this. Making people think they have the best product is more powerful than having the best product overall. And I agree with you and since I, being myself an independent technician, refused to work on Apple products my life has got easier.
Luckily, certain countries (like Norway) have laws that protect customers from the "it should last only 2 years" mentality (to a certain degree) Here's a direct excerpt from The Consumer Purchases Act in Norway:
"If an item is defective, the consumer must, within a reasonable period of time after he or she discovered or should have discovered the defect, notify the seller that he or she intends to submit a formal complaint with respect thereto. The deadline for submitting a complaint can never be shorter than two months from the point at which the consumer discovered the defect.
Any complaint must be submitted no later than two years after the consumer took possession of the item. If, when in normal use, the item or any part thereof is meant to last substantially longer, the deadline for submitting a complaint is five years. This does not apply as long as the seller, by means of a guarantee or other agreement, has assumed liability for defects over a longer period."
Phones and laptops are actually examples of items that are meant to last longer than two years. So you have 5 years protection against defects (like some of those Rossmann mentioned in the video)
I think that's pretty awesome.
Thankfully we can build our own PCs so at least Windows/Linux users don't have to put up with shitty company policies. And if you can afford an expensive laptop, then you have the option of getting a customisable Clevo laptop (or equivalent) from a reputable computer store.
A similar thing happened with my old iphone 5. In early 2015 Apple's newest software update BRICKED my phone, and when I took it in to get it repaired, not only did they FORGET I was there after I had been forced to make an APPOINTMENT and had reminded them I was there multiple times over the HOUR that I had to sit there (they literally were closing the store, turning off the lights with me being the ONLY PERSON still sitting there in the MIDDLE OF THE STORE), but when I called someone over, he said they needed to run tests on it. I told him I'd already tried taking it to a 3rd party repair shop and knew what the issue was because it was fairly widespread, but he said company policy required that they run a test via the phone. I told him the phone wouldn't turn on, and he insisted that they had to run the test on it. 15 minutes later he comes back and says that they can't run the test on the phone because it won't power on (he said this as if I wasn't aware of that), and that because they can't run the test, they won't be able to do anything to fix it. I didn't even have the option to PAY to get it repaired. He said I would just have to buy a new phone. I asked to speak to the manager, he said the manager had already left because the store was closed. He acted like I had shown up at the last second unannounced, as opposed to, you know, sitting there for over an hour with my thumb up my ass trying to get help. I looked him in the face and said "what you're telling me right now is that BECAUSE the phone is broken, your policy PREVENTS you from fixing it. Does that make any sense to you?" He replied "if you want to buy a new phone now, I can take $20 off of an otter box case because you had to wait a little bit longer (yes, he had the BALLS to say "a little bit longer") but that's about the best I can do."
I looked him dead in the face and said "No thanks, I'll just get an Android."
It's been 5 years and I've never once looked back. Android. For. Life.
Good on you for having the courage to say that.
Cool story. Fuck Apple
Lets fucking go, yessir!
@@Pigninjius Honestly it was more like blind rage than courage.
I had the exact same experience as you at apple store and like you i went to samsong but about a year later the phone didn't want to charge so went back to the store kind of upset but the saleman said it couldn't be fixt so he just give me a new one
I bought a Macbook Pro in the year 2000. It was the first generation of the so called 'aircraft aluminium' and supposedly milled from a solid piece of that aluminium. I think it cost well over £2400, which back then was a Kings ransom. On slotting a disc into the player I found that it would not eject the disc, caused by a misalignment between the player and the milled slot on the case. The only way I could remove the disc after pressing eject was to insert a very thin pair of tweezers into the slot and pull the disc out far enough to get my fingers on it. I explained my problem over the phone to the apple store, who were then based in ireland, and asked for a replacement laptop. They informed me that under no circumstances would they give me a replacement and my only option was...
1. Return the laptop by post to their store at my expense.
2. Wait a minimum of 8 weeks from the date they received the laptop for a decision and/or repair.
3 Pay a small charge for the return postage, and a second larger charge if they found no problem with my laptop.
At that point I informed them that there was a second option. Because of UK laws I was entitled to a full refund, with them reimbursing the postage I paid to return it to them. I did this and the following year (2001)went out and bought a Sony Vaio laptop for over £1200 less with higher spec. This ran Windows XP and lasted over 10 years and the only expense I ever went to was to double the ram and fit a larger hard drive later in it's life. It's now in a cupboard somewhere and would probably still start up and work fine if I tried it.
I then vowed never to buy another product from Apple, and have kept my word. To this day I wouldn't piss on Apple if they were on fire.
I thought the 2000 Macbook Pro had the little hole by the drive where you could insert a paper clip to eject it... I could be wrong... Was a long time ago... No I'm sure it did have that option...
IMO Apple's undoing was when the iMacs caught on like wildfire and they decided to put style over substance and put a premium price tag on less-than-premium hardware.
@@MementoMori-xx5qo (No hate) haven't seen? There is well built windows laptops, with the same kind of aluminum body (they're more rare ofc) but example new(ish) Dell XPS series could be pretty close. *some new MacBooks have that problem, if you close and open the screen (laptop ofc) the" screen flex cable" will broke in matter of time because the cable is too short...( and Apple's engineering is only the reason why its happening( "its your fault" is their idea behind that.) (Apple didn't even admit it?)*
@@MementoMori-xx5qo "I’ve never seen a windows laptop with better structural integrity than a Apple laptop."
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Straight from the description:
"1:01 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook GPU failures, warranty service refusal
2:21 - A1226/A1260 2007-2008 Macbook Pro hinge/frame problem
3:16 - A1286 Macbook Pro - the "Unibody" myth, glued together pieces fall apart
4:58 - A1286/A1297 MCP power circuit failure due to poor buck converter design: C7771 issue
6:01 - iPhone 4 cellular placement fail
7:12 - iPhone 5 power button problem
7:27 - A1286 2010 Macbook Pro GPU kernel panics due to same buck converter defect from 2008/2009(this gives you a hint that apple engineers doesn't give a crap about engineering good products, same design flaw for three straight years)
10:04 - A1286 2011 Macbook Pro GPU failure, Apple gets sued over not addressing problem.
11:43 - Apple gives out badly refurbished boards as warranty replacements for 2011 GPU failures.
13:06 - 2012 Retina Macbook Pro: another motherboard issue (U8900), due to poor soldering/manufacturing method on the GPU buck converter.
14:46 - Mac Pro GPU failure (again).
16:27 - iPhone 6/6+ touchscreen issue due to structural issue.
18:23 - SSD soldered straight into the motherboard+ chip that would kill the macbook, because a power line would short out to ground when the chip dies.
20:18 - 2016 Macbook keyboard reliability issue.
21:52 - 2016 Macbook Battery failure issue.
22:50 - A1278 Macbook Pro SATA cable failures(yes, really). "
Great structural integrity from Apple. LMAO. Have you only seen Windows laptops that cost less than $100 or something?
Scirocco “what windows laptop is made from metal”. You must be good at your job then 😂😂😂
I've been an Apple customer for years, but after discovering your channel I can confidently say I will never purchase any Apple product again. I knew they were shady, but wtf
But what will you buy instead. The other ones are even worse
@@Nooely framework
@@Nooely its not a coincidence that dumb women and kids prefer Apple products
@@Nooely 🐑🐑🐑
Yea OK.....LMAO
remember when Apple's slogan was "does more, costs less"?
More like the opposite
@@marinap5345 yep costs more does less and lasts half as long
No lol
Lmao wtf time has really changed that
it think depends where u r from, in my country iphone 6s+ (which i have rn) costs 620$ meanwhile in usa iphone 11 is nearly the same bruh nice economy
Think different
-Steve Jobs
Bend over
-Tim Cook
Steve jobs - im so innovative i steal peoples ideas and inventions just like Thomas Edison and sell them as my own a couple years later to dumb people.
Hitesh Lalwani Tim Cook seems very shady. That man is the devil.
Steve job was all 20 heads of the snake....glad he's gone
TheGodfather
👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
@@dragonduel7909 Pretty fucked up being glad someone's dead. Also, the company has only declined since jobs passing, steve dying fixed nor proved anything.
I knew apple wasnt the best, but I never imaged it was that bad.
-a baffled PC/android user.
Oh it's even worse
@@IStMl Steve pls come back one way or another
Same
Honestly, and I’m not excusing the people who got screwed over, but it’s always a very small % if units that have failures in their normal lifespan. OP’s job means he encounters these machines every day, but that doesn’t mean it’s widespread. In my experience macs last way longer than any windows laptop I owned.
Mat Well first of all, I don’t think it’s fair that you put an aura of ease of use “toys” around the mac, because it’s a very versatile OS that’s extensively used by the majority of STEM researchers, many experts in their field. The beauty of it is that a text editor, developer and researcher can all feel like it was tailored to their use. And in any case, don’t you think it’s fine if people want a stable experience with a phone and computer? There is nothing wrong with people wanting to pay a few extra hundred bucks to not get a blue screen if they can afford it. They’re good phones and good computers.
Second, I have used many, many computers. In my personal experience, Apple products have lasted significantly longer. I’m not denying that they make engineering mistakes, I just personally have never encountered these “widespread” failures with extensive use and my family members either with simple use. This is why a lot of Apple costumers, when they hear all the time that macs are shit that have widespread issues, respond this way.
Regarding the video, he’s a repair man that is constantly exposed to broken macs, so the failure points become apparent. He also makes most of his popularity with videos that paint a negative view of Apple.
What numbers do you have regarding the number that fail? A few forum posts and people bringing it in his shop isn’t enough to paint an accurate picture considering the millions of units sold.
My HP laptop had 2 drinks spilled on it, was in a house fire and got hosed down, dropped down the stairs while on, and managed to last 10 years. The screen backlight would eventually start to flicker occasionally, or not turn on with the laptop itself after 8 years. Recently, when I tried to get something from it, after 12 years, it finally wouldn't boot. It was a 540$ machine and it served me very well for a long time. And even spent years of its life playing games, working hard.
I have a samsung notebook that my parents gave to me in 2011. It was slow already in 2011, with a simple pentium dual core and 4 gigs of ram. I remember the laptop struggled to run cs go but I still gamed a lot in it. I did everything I could so I could use it far beyond its potential. I have a picture using an external monitor, cooler, external mouse and keyboard, headphones etc and there I was happy as I could be. I eventually upgraded to 8 gigs of RAM and put an SSD on it and it still works perfectly whilst being almost 10 years old. I just recently opened it to clean it and it's still a laptop I use just to watch videos or something
I've also got a HP laptop that was puchased before my daughter was born. Shes 10 now, and that cheap laptop still works fine.
I've heard a story of a person accidentally dropping their Lenovo Thinkpad from the rafters of a stage. They picked it up and it was still running, no damage other then some scuffs. with a macbook the screen would probably be separated from the computer.
Ok. But it isn't said that a Mac can't do the same. I have been an Apple user since the Apple II which my father brought home. And i have never had any issues with any Mac i purchased. And i purchased a lot of Apple products over time (several releases and sizes in iMac's, several releases and sizes in MacBook and MacBook Pro's, several releases and sizes iPhones and iPads). And i even own a 12 inch MacBook 2017 with butterfly keyboard which i use daily and no issues with the butterfly keyboard. So having an HP, Samsung or Lenovo does not mean that they can't have similar issues as well. Ok, Apple could have handled warranty and service better. But it is often also Apple bashing by mainly Windows users who never even used an Apple device. And my girlfriend has had many Windows notebooks by Acer, Asus, HP and Lenovo. And they all had issues. I installed Windows on a 2012 MacBook Pro 15 inch for my girlfriend which runs a lot faster with Windows then any Windows notebook from that time and over time there is always the issue that Windows will start to run slower. And she can't figure out how macOS works which is a lot easier to use than Windows IMHO. But Windows users are so stuck in the Windows way of working that they can't figure out how to work with macOS. I can do both but i ditched Windows years ago. Because despite all the Apple bashing Windows still sucks when you use it over a longer period of time. It gets slower. And macOS just does not. So every manufacturer be it hardware or software has faults. Not only Apple but also HP, Samsung, Lenovo, Acer, Asus, etcetera. And some of these companies also lack in warranty and service.
When they start manufacturing quantities in the millions, there must be some kind of cap or curve that shows what percentage of these products will fail over time or in specific parts. My guess is both PC and APPLE are obligated to a kind of CHAOS function that results in failures at a certain percentage. You make billions of M&Ms and maybe ther'll ba a percent of packets with all geens, all reds etc., and all else ok. But with pcs and macs, with thousands of parts (thousands of m&ms in one machine, that failure rate soon appears). I've used APPLE since the original mactintosh. Only recently since 2017, have I started seeing these types of failures. My next machine will be a Dell or Lenovo? and will compare. While traveling in Asia, I dropped my iphone 7 on cobblestone in the RP, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF sidewalk repair setups for pc's, cellphones, gaming hardware in the philippines. Took my iphone there asked for a price, $25 to replace screen 3rd party, $45 for new Apple screen. Not bad I thought and I didn't bargain. Iphone still works. My Huawei is also still solid, but Android sucks is all I can say about that.
This is exactly why i always laugh at people, when they say: "Apple prices aren't so high for the brand name. It is their technology being so advanced."
Yeah.. very advanced. Advanced glue?
Yeah, their Mac software hasn't been really advanced either. I will agree that iOS is written in Objective C, so it consumes less RAM than android per app. But Linux, Windows, etc are all written in C, assembly and are highly optimized. Windows has better support and software availability than macOS
Mac OS doesn't have any "optimization". they keep changing their chip sets and have never supported graphics properly. Windows has proven to have better gaming performance and boot up times as well.
It's so bullshit that apple prevents their software (final cut Pro and others) from being used elsewhere, cuz it's one of the only reasons to buy their PC's anyways.
Shoe rubber is some high tech shit.
Actually, a lot is laptops from lenovo and dell are similarly priced, in my country apple is cheaper compared to xps or thinkpad
@@arunthebuffoon4554 Advanced rubber shoe
@@adwaitsharma6915 Yeah, I have a Lenovo and it's much cheaper than Apple, works better too.
To be clear, none of that are faulty product, error, or mistake. All of that are feature, feature whose sole purpose is to make more money for stakeholder. And it work beautifully.
Elepole Eolis good ole Bethesda excuse except it works for them lol
Lol only apple could sell a product with a fatal flaw and call it a feature. I know your just making fun of them but honestly they could probably legitimatelly tell people its a feature and they would buy it knowing its going to break and tell all their friends "its just a feature" lol.
Per Karlsson I think you have your time off a little bit, I think you mean 10+ months, unlike many competitors that last around an average of 5 years based on either user error, the screen hinges breaking, or just simply becoming outdated.
Per Karlsson tell that to my friend that have speaker problem on his macbook only in his 2nd year of usage
I trust Louis Rossmann and Linus Tech Tips, It is great that you have had a good user experience and your devices are still fine I am truely happy for you but I'll never get one based off the vast majority of poor owner experiences both from what I have read and seen online via credible sources like LTT and LR but also from friends and their experiences.
All of my friends that once were Apple fanatics have since moved to Android and Windows based products many years ago. Usually just 1 owner experience is all it took them to make the switch.
There is no reason for Apple to make their batteries "non replaceable" at all other than to intentionally make the product performance decline so you buy a new phone. Just a small example of their b.s. they pull.
That capacitor is not a bug, it's a feature. For them.
Surprise Mechanics
@@imdone8243 Lmfao
Pull that out of your ass did you?
@@elkiddo1114 I meeeaan... It is getting apple money. And apple isn't fixing it. Soooo. Yeah he's pretty much correct.
@@Hexcede Dude,
Dude, the earth isn't flat. deal with it
I'm 45, I have never owned anything made by Apple and it will stay that way.
Same age and same situation. ;)
I'm 32 and I won't own another crapple product .I had one iPhone 5 for a few years and I hated how limited it was in so many areas... especially the fixed storage...I hated it.
Why? That's bigoted.
38, same here. Forget about the overpricing or the cringe hype, to me it was enough that the music you put on the ipod was locked for me to despise the sheep around me who thought that was acceptable.
My thought at 16: You don't want me to use you, do you? Ok then I won't, I like my stuff to be useful.
I am an independent service tech and have been for over 20 years making quality repairs and servicing desktops and laptops of various brands EXCEPT Apple. I do not live in an area that is host to a large number of video or graphics professionals who woefully depend upon these devices to meet deadlines and earn a living. I totally agree with your points that not only are the Apple laptop devices designed with obsolescence in mind but also serviceability locked to Apple certified technical staff (and OEM replacement parts). Therefore I refer any potential Apple clients back to Apple for repairs or suggest a different brand that is serviceable from an economical and open source bin of OEM replacement parts.
I can tell from your free videos that you have a genuine concern for your clients and will make a reliable repair to get these people back to their vocation and for that I take my hat off to you. Yes, even at my ripe old age, 65+ now, I learn from your experiences. You qualify your distrust of Apple with facts not just negative rhetoric. Keep up the good work Louis Rossmann, the world needs more people like you!
Except he's wrong and presents distorted facts to fit his narrative. Apple devices have the lowest average failure rates in the industry and are supported for the longest with software updates. Thus they have the highest 2nd hand resale value. Enjoy.
@@AndyMilne The iphone 6 had a higher failure rate than even the cheapo alcatel line, which would be covered by even Walmart warranty. So, that's money back or in-store credit. Several laptops boast way more features than the macbooks, beating them in every single aspect, aside from smaller touch pads, with much lower failure rates(see toshiba and asus) at a fraction of the cost! If something went wrong (which obviously was rare), you could exchange them if it was within usually 2 years. No scams, no fuss! So, average price range, average warranty, average failure rates kinda puts them in the area of scammy but that's okay, you gotta climb over people to get to the top.
Amen to that.
*kauan yamaguti*
"others prefer what works!" - So these wrecked machines _looking like_ Apples aren't _actually_ Apples. Is that what you are saying? Are you sure you _know_ what a 'life' is?
@@AndyMilne OmegaLULZ, fanboi just undid all his facts with a no-fact rebuttal. Well played.
Pffff, it’s fine. My 4s still runs at 2FPS, has a battery life of 7 minutes, and only dies at 100%
Lol, it's that true 🤣
Yo I used to have a 4s it had all of those issues
Oh, and the screen is starting to fry itself and darken at the same time
My 3 year old iPhone 7 literally has a battery life of 7 minutes and dies at 100% all the time too, so I felt that
@@chrisjklofton They are called "features"
As an electronic design engineer I was looking at Apple in 1976 when they introduced the Apple 1 computer. I thought then it was a product that had potential but was poorly designed. My problem with Apple even then was their business practices and the way they treat their customers. They have a reputation for screwing their customers with high prices and producing products with a built-in limited life span and are also closed systems to make you buy the next generation of product from them when the product dies or becomes obsolete. People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics. Even when screwed by Apple they just continue to buy their crap for extremely high prices. I don't understand their thinking but it is their money to spend any way they like. I refuse to ever buy an Apple product from 1976 till today.
So...43 years ago..in the absolute infancy of personal computers, you thought that the Apple 1 computer had potential but was poorly designed? You were one of the people that was able to get your hands on one of the 200 units made and critiqued its design? What experience did you have in personal computing did you have at this time? Or..did you just look at a picture of the machine? "People that continue to buy Apple products are just crazy people with no understanding of electronics." LMAO. Is that your statement? Funny..most people buy these devices because they don't..and don't want to understand electronics. They just want a device that works smoothly. They want to turn it on and use it. Which is exactly what Apple provides. This is why people keep buying Apple products...I don't understand how you can have any idea what it is like to own an apple product if you never have had one? How did you know how they treat their customers? I will tell you this. When my son was in college we offered to buy him a mac desktop..he wanted a PC. We advised against it but he insisted he wanted a PC. We bought him a Dell Inspiron. As far as I could tell he never had a problem with the hardware..but he was constantly dealing with malware and virus's. People are willing to pay more for a product that works. Back in the day I had a Dell, Packard Bell and IBM desktops. I liked them at the time. After I bought my first iMac I was hooked. Everything just worked flawlessly. No virus's no problems. I have had 2 iMacs, 3 ipads, 5 iphones, apple TV, apple watch, two macbook pros, ipods, ipod shuffle and a time capsule. The only problems I had were..the first iMac, hard drive failed after 9 years. Apple replaced it at the Apple store for just the cost of the part. My time capsule had multiple hard drive failures. Great product idea but I had a lot of problems with it. See, unlike you I don't care what anyone else buys..I buy what works for me. According to your summation you make me out to a crazy person. Why? Again, if you have never bought an Apple product how can you tell people what that experience is like? So..people that buy PC's and Android products understand electronics and aren't crazy? lol. You see, I can only tell you about my experiences. You talk about products having a built in limited life span? What consumer electronics product doesn't? One last point...everyone that has a smartphone now has more information on it than at home. With that being said, Android is so far below Apple in data safety it is not even in the same universe. Which is part of the reason the android platform is much more customizable. I still get a kick out of reading that you don't like the way Apple treats there customers..lol...saying that and NEVER having owned an Apple product. So..you just read what other people say and make it gospel? BTW..I was 16 in 1976..how old were you?
@@kevinshea5819 are you criticizing an electronic engineer? I can't stop laughing, a simple customer who says at an engineer how he should see things/products with a critical eye... You wrote something unreadable for how long It Is, just to say to an engineer "you didn't have the instruments to see the product properly", well guess what, you surely don't have and Will never have the critical eye the engineers have 'cause you don't want to criticize what you have a feeling for. It doesn't exist you can even think to tell to an engineer how he should see the products/things cause your blindness Is the cause Apple does shitty quality products, and since they know It's their weak point, they take advantage of conditions in their warranty programs to screw the the customer (you). This type of people doesn't demonstrate coherence to criticize someone else's thinking, so live in your Little world and shut up! You have what you deserve; pay a lot to solve nothing, but leave in peace Who doesn't want to do the same.
Anto G Well as a PhD candidate in engineering at an R1, I can assure you that OP is full of BS. Steve Wozniak is a genius and revolutionized the personal computer using innovative circuitry with the Apple I and some Atari games. You can hate Apple today but saying the Apple 1 was poorly designed makes 0 sense. If that was the case Apple would have never grown as it did. Furthermore, a ton of innovation with the GUI and usability happened on the mac.
It’s one thing to disagree with the direction Apple took or dislike their current hardware, but denying the impact it had is a whole new level of BS hating.
@@diverman1023 don't make confusion, i'm an engineer and i lived the transformation of seeing something with "new eyes". I replied to the post in which someone who demonstrates to don't have the instruments to criticize products (the customer "eye") tells to someone who can have the instruments to see critically "you're wrong, i'm right", asking about the age and other things which are useless in this topic (attacking firstly the person, not what have been added to the discussion). This Is the attitude which create confusion. You've done the right thing; in synthesis you said: "i don't share what Richard said cause i see those things which make me say that It was well designed." There was an argumentation and you did It without attacking the person, this Is how a constructive discussion Is. Also you replyed to something old (Apple I), i was talking about something newer (post 2008), so don't make confusion; about Apple I, talk directly to Richard, about Apple post 2008 i can participate to the discussion, about what i've said to Kevin don't name Apple cause the subject was the attitude to demonstrate a critical thinking, which Kevin doesn't have; the fact It was defending Apple was a plus, if he tried to defend another brand in the same way i could write something very similar.
@@diverman1023 anyway, what today happens demonstrates that the consensus doesn't come only After quality, so i can say that the reasons Apple has grown so much aren't only in the potential of the Apple I (also because all the big party people who didn't help Apple to grow up, i don't remember specifically the names of the the reference of the PC market, but i remember that most of them didn't accept to help Apple, cause they also didn't see sufficient potential in their project). I don't think these people were stupids and i understand what Richard could have think: something these big names could have think also. So, Apple surely had success but the reasons aren't so simple to find and understand...
Still having issues with my iphone x after it's been 'repaired' at apple. Random, very rapid 'ghost touches' all over the screen as well as not responding until I forcefully press at the very bottom of the screen. Guess I didn't learn from when my 2012 macbook pro used to burn my wrist when typing...
I am so happy to live in The Netherlands, where you can actually legally hold a company liable on an individual basis instead of class action suits. We just have a law that requires vendors to replace/repair a part/product if the initial cost of it, suggests a certain longevity.
I'm all for that, we have an administration now that is gutting all consumer protections.
I've been to said Netherlands and can confirm; these guys are great, really
I am pretty sure than that law is tyrannical.
Okay, but consumers end up paying for those costs. I’m guessing computers are far more expensive in the Netherlands than the U.S. The manufacturers and retailers just spread out the costs into higher computer prices.
@@showtimebruin7821 nope, false
I am a mechanic in australia and your opening statement is exactly the same case with Crappy European and Australian built cars.
Now this is quality content
Unlike apple's.
Andre Gon oof
the type of content Apple haters fap too.
‘Cheaply built’ ok, like my lovely plastic dell which shredded my DVD while I typed on it because there was no material between the keyboard and the optic drive. Your argument seems to be simply that Apple products are flawed, and it takes longer than seems necessary to amend the design flaws. I feel your pain, but honestly, I find this is just a growing trend, electronics are today’s version of expensive disposable cameras. Dell, HP, Apple, Samsung. All very flawed and designed to fail. They want you to buy a new one in 2-3 years. And... honestly, by then you wouldn’t really want to still be using the machine as it will be reliant on what is now outdated tech. If you analyze the circuits in any modern product, you will find many flaws. At the end of the day, there has to be such a thing as ‘good enough to ship’. They can’t spend 5 years designing and perfecting the next model, they come out every 6 months anymore. I work in IT, and I know as well as you do; if none of this stuff ever broke down, we wouldn’t have a job. Under HEAVY use, I literally EXPECT failure:
Monitors max 5 years
Mouse/keyboard 1 year
Desktop 2-3 years
Laptop 1.5 years major repair, 3 years salvage/dead
Hard drive 2 years tops
SSD 2-3 years maybe
Bottom line is unless you are babying machines, they will break simply from use and wear. In a busy work environment, the data and continued productivity is crucial and downtime or lack of machines far outweighs the comparably small size of doing some repairs or even replacing a batch of machines. Perfect machines that never fail just wont happen.
thejpkotor Dell is the only manufacturer worst than Apple. Get yourself a quality Asus laptop. I still have one running strong since 2010. The battery died sometime ago but that’s expected.
Apple makes a great operating system. The best part of Apple is that it’s based off of Unix. For a closer version of Unix install home brew. One of the things I truly love about Apple is mission control. I’ve tried Windows task viewer and I really don’t like it with dual monitors. I still don’t like their hardware and I’m still using a Mac mini 2011 and a MacBook Pro 2012 because I don’t like their soldered ram or soldered SSD. They could have easily upgraded the removable ram on the Mac mini to potential 64 gigs of ram and kept the two bays for 2.5 inch drives or added m.2 SSD dockets, but no they want to make their machines in fixable so if the ram or ssd go back a whole logic board has to be replaced. The best Macs are the hackintosh ones, although there days maybe numbered with the ARM processor design.
Apple doesn't make thier own OS. OSX and iOS are based on FreeBSD. It's a split of the code that they keep updating with new features as FreeBSD releases them then drops their own features on top of. They write a pretty wrapper for it and add in some proprietary stuff on top. The core OS, Apple has never written. Just get that out of your head right now. Apple hasn't written an OS in decades. What Apple creates are what Linux people would call Distributions. A lot of the big under the hood advances come from FreeBSD, not Apple. Here's the real kicker though. All those proprietary Apple connections. Apple HAD to write those themselves. FreeBSD comes out of the box with support for all the industry standards. To create all those things Apple had to set out with the goal of not using standards they already had all the work done for them on and decide to create those proprietary Apple products just to screw customers. It gets worse. Apple purposely removed shell access from the consumer so consumers could not go in and reenable FreeBSD features Apple didn't want them to have. Say what you want about Microsoft. They've expanded shell access. Apple straight up removes it.
@@halycon404 No wonder why homebrew is so popular. Yeah I definitely need to play more with Powershell on Windows. If windows could only something better for dual monitors like apple does mission control I think I would use windows more. I would love for microsoft and Linux to beat Apple. I haven't played with FreeBSD except of course the little bit on Apple. I have played with the Raspberry Pi 4 for of Debian Im not sure how that compares to Debian. One of the great things about Linux is that you can run it on practically any hardware. There is no you have to get a new phone or a new computer with pure Linux.
@@jonny777bike Android is based on Linux. There's a low spec mode to turn off all the pretty graphical party tricks and some of the bells and whistles. In which case it runs on anything, it's also more stable than the full feature version we use. For pure usability us rich folks chasing the newest and best phones get the worst version. There's a reason Android phones pretty much have 90% of the global market. Apple is only a concern in the richest countries. There's entire continents where Apple is less than 1%. Globally Google and Microsoft won the consumer space, it isn't even close. And Linux won in server space, even Microsoft runs a lot of its infrastructure on Linux.
Person at an ant trap: Pfff how could ants fall for something so obvious?
At mouse trap: how are mice so stupid?
At bear trap: Really, Bears? Come on!
Person: *Ooh boy! The new iPhone 37!*
Truly underrated comment.
Don't insult the animals like that. At least the food could've been useful for their survival!
😂
@Aran Rasekhi shut up stoopid kid, ur live is prety sad by havin only Apple...
They said "think different"
Not "think logically"🤣
whereas pc users don't think at all.
@@elkiddo1114 Because they don't need to, since they build their own machines.
@@Larry82ch Dude,
We are in agreement, they don't think at all.
@@elkiddo1114 Apple users don't have the intelligence to avoid Apple products. Their cognitive abilities are just below not thinking at all.
@@Larry82ch Dude,
Really? Why does Best Buy sell already put together PCs eh dingleberry?
They intended to make that so that people will buy again and again.
Steve is a genius in computer, but he is more than a genius in marketing, he use the advantages of people thinking he gonna give them good products, those products were created to fails, and those people still buy more and thinking to themselves: "This product is bad, but it probably the best bEcAusE he was know a genius in computer". So yeah, your statement is absolutely right
I remember seeing a video of those thin women's socks being used for towing a car. Now that shit rips if you flex too hard.
Marketing trick as old as humanity.
its called geplante Obsoleszenz
This is truly an age of chosing which company would you like to be screwed with. You put your faith in one company hoping they don't screw you up that bad compared to other companies
As if apple fans would be able to comprehend any of what this means
I'm not an apple fan and I barely understand what it means xD
Then again, I did watch the video on 2X speed so that miiiight have had something to do with it.
@@darrenwalsh5030 don't watch videos in 2x if ur brain can't handle lmao
@@pocketanime Most videos are fine to watch in 2x, but sometimes the speaker talks in a way that doesn't translate well to faster speeds.
Also it was roughly around midnight so sleep fatigue doesn't help either.
Ok
You give me r/imverysmart vibes
"modeled after an air filter"
That's a trash can my dude
Yep, that's that we called it at my various jobs....trash can Macs. It was probably one of the worst designs for a computer. In a professional rack mount environment, you can imagine how the trash can Mac would fit in or wouldn't ...and it didn't. We had to sit them on rack mount shelves, taking up much more room in the rack then it should. Had to design/get... custom made rack mount hardware for them, sometimes. This is what I thought and said when they came out first...what was Apple thinking when they conjured up this design? The rest of Apple product lines through out the years were never a cup of my tea anyway....design and reliability -wise. They are totally out of the server business now...remember the X-Serve?
Yyyyrerejjok
@@MegaSunspark tell me of computers with good software too also please? I have people that I have to stop from forcing me to have Macs!!
@@pgum123gonowplayread4 Try out Linux Mint, or Ubuntu, those are decent
MegaSunspark Probably because Apple is so obsessed with the “form over function” BS.
In Norway we have 5 year warranty (Its called "reklamasjonsrett" ,and it gives the consumer a lot of power). Exception is battery. They have 3 years of reklamasjonsrett.
Can take the case to a govermental agency if the store/brand does not want to comply. Works pretty well, and Apple has lost a ton of cases this way.
If they Lie about product, or have made it with fault you have right to money back, FREE fix or some compensation.
Fking socialists!
@@machtundrebel3127 I know right. Its so annoying having the security of "free" school and healthcare. And regulations on how much companies can scam us. Everyone over here hate it so much. xD
Its not socialism tho. You need school.
@@TheGuyFromNorway it's a joke
I wish all countries have consumer protections like yours
Not my name fucking Norway, being good at everything.
“It’s not a bug, it’s a feature”
-Internet Historian (probably)
ive never owned an apple product nor do i care, but im still pissed for some reason
...what's hilarious is that I totally "get" that! I'm pissed, too.
years ago i had a girlfriend who got me a iphone for my birthday. I needed a new phone, i broke mine a few days before.. She is no longer my girlfriend.
My only Apple product is an iPod that I got as a gift like 6-7 years ago. And it already had at least 2 owners before me. It still works fine, aside from the "adjust volume" buttons on the side not working anymore and the "power" button needs to be pressed hard for it to work. Screen is shattered but still works (dropped it around a million times over the years). So all in all, that's pretty good for a portable device. My android phone only lasted 2 years before I dropped it one too many times and it stopped turning on.
But still, the android had so much better functionality. I could use it as usb drive, I could easily put in and switch SD cards, installing apps was easier, putting music (or movies or any media) onto it didn't require a program (iTunes), and putting music (or again movies etc...) didn't require you to have an exact copy of your library on your PC (otherwise the missing files from your pc will also be deleted from your iPod for some fucking reason), I could take out the back panel without ease, while the iPod can't be taken apart, the iPod has this stupid Apple USB cable that isn't standard for any other company (and more expensive too), while I had around 10 other cables in my home for my android phone that I could use to charge it or connect it to my pc.... I could go on forever but you get the point.... it just sucks that Apple devices don't have these features which are standard for any other device on the market.....
Same here, never owned an Apple product and i am pissed for a good reason. Apple jacks up the prices, and the rest do the same. So Apple screws over everybody, even non-Apple sheep.
It's called, "being human". Apple can't grasp that concept, because their consumers are sheeps!
Don't forget that Apple also owns Beats by Dre. Known for their bad (for the price range) audio quality and absolutely terrible durability.
The Chillmaster That is true, but even still. When a reviewer gets a pair of beats headphones, they almost always say it has that "beats sound" (not really a good thing, but it might suit some people's taste) and they recommend to be careful with them since the headphone band can't bend much. In my opinion, beats still need a hardware redesign/boost.
They kind of inherited that problem though
they could try and fix it
Quality is not bad (I've got Beats solo) but they definitely overpriced. No microphone (they're not full headset) it's something they do not advertise. It just uncomfortable when somebody is calling...
The Chillmaster they only got better because as time passes,audio quality gets better. Not because Apple is any good. Any company's headphones get better sound quality for the price as time passes.
I'm not technological-wizard, but I used to be really into computer hardware. I built my own PC, and have a pretty good understanding of specs. I've despised Apple for years now.
I wish I could remember which laptop it was specifically, but I remember looking at one of their computers that was made in 2017, sold for over $2,000, and the thing had specs equivalent to a cheap smartphone. I'm talking 4G of ram, and this absolutely terrible dual core processer.
It was in that moment that I truly grasped just how fucking awful they are. Selling what's essentially a $300 computer for the price of a used car.
My 2013 MacBook air 11” has those same specs :/
Needless to say, I’ve been planning on switching to pc once I have the money.
(The laptop was a Christmas present several years ago)
Kasai i dont know my sister has a macbook air from the 13 or 14 and it might not be a beast but it is very durable. We fling that thing across the room and nothing would happen to it.On the other hand, I got a hand me down iphone 7 and that shit is flimsy and unreliable.
Mali Kali yeah, mines been dropped a few times and it’s got dents but it still works
Mali Kali Huh. I’ve dropped my iPhone 7 from the first floor and it doesn’t have any issue. Jailbroken with checkra1n too. I love this phone.
No Name for most people, the audio fizzles out after a while because some audio chip got loose. The problem happens to a lot of these iphone 7s so as far as apple products go; the iphone 7 and 7 plus aren’t reliable.
You are truly a blessing in a consumer market like this, holy shit.
Thinking of buying one Apple product? Think different.
J P depending on the brand and yea iPhone slows down update after update, my gf iphone 6s is already pissing her off everyday
Nokia DOES still make phones. They release phones with android os and they still have classic Nokia build quality and strength. (and no its not the 3310 disgrace of a remake they made, they make actual phones like Samsung)
Are the android nokias good? I'd never seen anyone using them.
You can always build hackintosh if you don't want to buy Apple hardware.
I wish that it was possible with iOS too.
One man against a trillion dollar company! This is why democracy is great. Salute!
How the fuck did you find a way to make this political xD
debjyoti mandal not anymore lol
is not gonna be trilion dolar company much longer if we stop buying their shit!
@@iaisosoakoaozoso5453 👍😂😂😂
@@mihairadupop2491 👏👏👏
Watched it 2 years ago and it was recommended again....even better the second time around .
I think Apple has mastered the Stockholm syndrome ability
People have simply become stupid and lost their ability to think critically.
It's in most parts of the world right now, people think the earth is flat, people think religion is real, people think aliens are amongst us, some people think they should storm Area 51 because "they have aliens there".. People aren't smart.
Puro Area 51 is just a meme - or is it not?
@@OriginalPuro uhg, it's so sad but true.
@@OriginalPuro
Your first sentence (or it's second half) is correct. But later...
Except "area 51" is nothing but a running joke, as are the aliens, religion is very real as it always has been, Earth may, or may not be flat - as a common person, you cannot prove either way.
In conclusion, you are the one not sounding very smart mate. Sort yourself out.
AmIgOltu lmao you just fit his description of a fucking tard
This guy really analyses everything from a NON fanboy perspective. Genuinely makes ME think. Love your videos.
thank you!
No, man. Thank YOU. Unfortunately, I discovered your channel just 3 days back. Going through a lot of your videos now, very relevant even today. Because a lot of the things you talk about are very basic. Things that are applicable from the beginning of time to the end of it.
There are two kinds of videos on youtube. One that thinks for you, others that make YOU think yourself. You have figured out how to do both. Bravo.
I’m watching this on an apple I pad that doesn’t charge properly
damn
Ironic. He could save others from death, but not you.
Clearly you're chargin it wrong
Freddy Kabuffke bruh I’m using an apple charging cable and an apple charging base and it says not charging
@@_wheat856 Buy a new charging base and cable. If this doesn't work, buy a new phone. Not Apple's fault, if you handle it wrong 👀
Even though I've been buying Apple products since 2007: MacBook Pro, 2 Mac Pros (cheese grater and trash can), 2 iPhones including 12 Pro Max, 3 iPads (2 iPad Pros including M1 iPad Pro) AirPods Pro, iPod, large monitor, bluetooth keyboard, dongle/adaptors, etc., ... the only malfunction I've had with any of these devices so far is the battery on the 2007 MacBook Pro expanded and Apple replaced it for free immediately. But I watch your videos anyway because you are so damned entertaining and persuasive ... even though all my brand new and 'antique' Apple products are all still working perfectly ... your videos make me almost believe that everyone's Apple products must be malfunctioning on a massive scale ... I guess I'm the only lucky one 🍀 🍀 🍀 😃
Anyone else listen to rants like this from Louis Rossman and pretend its a bedtime story. Its so satisfying hearing apple get roasted more than their own graphics chips, it helps me sleep.
He's deadass soothing
I don't pretend it *is* a bedtime story 😁
Calm rant 😁
Happy...sad...
15 years tech repair here,
Your articulation of 'the points' is perfect,
gj Lou
Dan whatttt! A fellow beaker!!!!
It's not incompetence. It's planned obsolescence.
Just like the phone slow down because of batteries and bricking phones with replacement screens. They make their products obsolete long before they should be.
Noble1xCarter I get the sentiment, but objectively, it's literally the same thing.
planned obsolescence usually occurs shotly after warranty end, with a lot of theese issues here it was 2-6 weeks after purchase
lacucaracha111111 true but considering how much cash Apple has I highly doubt that they didn't notice any of these problems while in testing, the only answer is that they purposefully let this stay.
Erick J. An Android phone keeps getting updates from the company that made it for 3-4 years, which I admit is less then Apples phones but considering how big the Android community is you can install the new version of Android if you want. Phones like the Nexus 4 and 5 are still being updated my fans in the community.
The amount of expertise that you demonstrate in your videos is amazing
You forgot the iPhone slow down scandal. After they got sued, they released an update for my 6S and the phone suddenly started being fast again after months of random shut downs and touch screen malfunctioning.
Edit: I should also mention that my Antutu benchmark score rose from 76000 to 110000 after the update (which is still worse than my initial score of 134000 when the phone was newer)
Heard fanboys say: "Oh no. It's because Apple wants your iPhone to last that's why they slow it down. We have to be so grateful" 🙃
I mean my 6 was slower with the original battery in it. I tried turning off the battery protection and it would shut off around 15-20%. I get why they did it but they should have told people they were doing it.
Not only Antutu score has doubled in like 2015.
Geekbench has also increased iPhone scores with newer versions.
Compare Geekbench 2 to Geekbench 3 and 4 with same devices, and you'll be very surprised.
This is happening with my mother's iPhone 7, replaced the phone twice, won't be doing it a third time.
If you bought this iphone 6 on release date or the same year I still cannot see how this battery could be so horrible. Why they didnt just offer to replace batteries or allow users to replace them is still absurd. Throttling your phones performance because they lock you from changing your battery to me is BS which is why I still only buy phones with removal backing to have the option to replace your battery. Can you imagine if car companies did this? You would be screwed WOW!!
Why does any of this surprise anyone? I dont know how many times I have to tell people, Apple DOES NOT make computers, they make fashion accessories
Yes. They're computers for people who don't really need computers. The ad campaign with the Mac and PC Guys was explicitly classist, and positioned Apple as a luxury brand rather than a producer of useful products.
@@pkunkbwok Actually, that's not always the case. I am a PC guy myself. I dislike Apple products, but my mom loves them a lot. She's got, an iPhone, an iPad and a Mac. She uses the latter when she needs to work while traveling, as it is pretty light. She says that that is the main reason why she uses a Mac for this.
Also, guess who gets stuck with troubleshooting an unfamiliar system when something goes wrong?
@@interlamer7480 thats my life in a nutshell, except they dont just have apple devices, they sometimes screw up good devices by falling for stupid *U won 10k* shits that appears on random websites. And when it comes to their iphones, i always say, "I own an android tablet, A TABLET, thats a phone, im never familiar with iphones so i cant fix it dead ass"
People just don't want to listen man...
Why does it have a keyboard and trackpad/mouse?
well that's psychology.
if you pay a huge amount for a luxury product, it has to be good.
one can't admit, that he spent so much money for crap.
so it's easier to defend the decision
yap, exactly!
They made experiences about this. Take two identical products. Put the price of one low, the other high. People will automatically assume the high price product to be better and worthwhile and would buy this one if they have the money.
@Emily Pace
Every company produces *profitable*,
not every company intentionally uses crap materials to milk you, not every company wants to screw you over, to become a trillion $ company.
Only the worst, the few, the different.
@Emily Pace Why do you sound so much like a bot?
@Emily Pace good luck getting it repaired, look at Linus Tech Tips and Snazzy Labs for examples of what you can expect. To be fair, you aren't nearly famous enough to get the service that they got.
I'll stick to my modular PC (which as a qualified tech I can repair myself) and an android phone that I can have repaired or replaced locally (had an issue once) and I did have one instance where I had a Sony flagship replaced within the day (in a backwards country like South Africa) I geuss it is a matter of preference.
You should get what you pay for.
I do agree that some of the products that reach the end user has issues that were not picked up during quality checks.
THE FACT IS THOUGH: IF THAT IS THE CASE IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE PROCESS TO HAVE IT REPAIRED OR REPLACED.
Intelligent people vote with their money (IE. Stop buying from companies that sell shit)
Everytime I see a brand new Mac and think for a second on getting it as my next laptop I remember! Apple is full blown anti consumer and needs to be stoped! It's time (it is way overdue) to regulators step up
Can you explain how?
@@OG_Gyekye Literally watch the fucking video
@@trugictra I did and didn’t understand so why can’t you explain?
@@OG_Gyekye they make products that are counter intuitive and literally break themselves while you use them. they often fuck their customers over with bad support and often set very tight criteria as to when you're eligible to send their shit back
@@trugictra is their any proof of this? I need to know cause from the videos I’ve see. They’ve given proof and I just want to under if there’s any proof on the other side before I make my final decision
Imagine having to repair an unrepairable phone, that has no customization and isn't even that cool to look at
-This post was made by the cheap android gang
(Moto G8 Play best phone in Brazil lol)
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@@nqvy_4546 Sorry sir, I don't speak malfunctioning robot.
@UnluckyPenguinPrincess uh, i know that
É só no Brasil que Motorola faz sucesso mesmo, aqui o povo despreza Samsung pq eles só compram modelos ruins como J1/J8 em vez de pagar um pouco mais em um S7 Edge, que bate de frente com qualquer celular de hoje em dia.
Finally, someone with common sense lmao
I was attending a 4 year university for some classes, had just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 8, was playing Turtles 4 on a Super Nintendo emulator, as well as the four player X-men arcade game with a friend and I using 2 Xbox one controllers. Classmates were mesmerized asking me how I was able to get my phone to do that. I had to explain emulators, the Xbox controller drivers for Android, what a file manager is, etc. I am 40 and these were 18-21 year old kids. One asked me how he could get his phone to do that as he had an iPhone, I took great pleasure (in a nice way) of explaining why I despise Apple...fuck Apple!!!
Agreed, hate the way Apples are locked down.
WaterFlam3 are you three years old or something? This is the Internet.
Been laughing at Apple products for decades. I have always liked to build my own pcs, so seeing the price tags on apple for worse specs always made me cringe.
Ditto. I've been building my own PC'S for more than 20 years. If something goes bad, I can easily repair it. With Apple, that often not easy or possible.
your point is partially correct and partially wrong to be honest. specs arent everything. the specs argument has also become quite dull lately, but then again its not too wrong, just enough for me to complain about it.
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 specs define the pc's price. Yes they are important. No Apple is not giving enough specs to justify their pc's prices. Fuck apple.
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 @Cotonee
"Specs aren't everything"
What you said might be favorable for iOS vs android, (still not true, since apple's phone processors are literally a better "spec") but is actually the opposite for PC's.
Mac OS isn't optimized for anything, it is written in a similar way to every other desktop operating system. It has been proven to have lower graphics and battery performance than windows running the same hardware. Apple just uses Intel CPUs - and they kept changing their CPUs too, so they have never optimized properly, and still suck at gaming.
Now they're switching, again. Despite Windows' inconsistencies, it's actually written to be perform
@trufiend138 are you talking about windows no?
"The problem stands with the circular form factor. They struggle to figure out which side to make thinner" -sofila
What an absolute legend, I'm dying
Apple is exactly the company that Apple customers deserve.
Not all of them, some people find Android phones difficult. Older people as an example
@NeverSettlealone samsung is almost as bad as apple.. It's all overpriced hype.
Learn to buy good products not good marketing and you mastered a skill that will improve your life and will save you money.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 samsung btw also makes low end smartphone
@@carholic-sz3qv yeah sure, but they are still shit though.
Samsungs software is a nightmare.
@@carholic-sz3qv why is that?
My friend wants to buy an iPhone because she says it proves something for her. Like a status or something.
One of the dumbest reasons I've ever heard.
I know someone who is an apple fanboy and just recently bought was I think was the newest macbook for almost $2000. At first I didnt know he was a fanboy and offered to help him find a laptop/gaming laptop that can quintuple its usefulness and power. He straight up told me that he doesnt need all that because the only thing he does online is browse the internet, I just died inside.
But thats Apple in a nutshell. Its a brand of status as viewed by morons.
Get new friends.
Tell your friend to buy an Android phone, then buy an Apple sticker and stick it on the back. Same look, better phone, way cheaper
Tell her to buy a pair of jeans as well seeing how she’s going for the status of having something that literally everyone else in the world has
Thanks, Lous... just took my Mac back the second time for repair. My wife: "Why don't you just buy a PC at Costco?". Me: "But I love my Mac!" Then I saw your videos, and my cult mentality became apparent.
Jeff Zekas, Apple are absolute Masters at “creating a Hype” for their products, and making people Believe in their products. Unfortunately the products don’t live up to the hype that they created in the first place. And don’t forget, Apple are just Marketing specialists, they don’t even produce their own products... they are just Awesome at Marketing, otherwise known as “the blah-Deeh-blah”
I think you should try your Wife's advice, just don't hold it against her when you switch back to apple.
@@kazhilly Dude,
What a crock. Apple designs their own motherboards and chips if necessary. They get consistently good reviews and performance ratings by the labs that do that kind of analyses.
Apple's computer advertising budget is less than Dells, most of it is word of mouth, because most apple users are happy customers.
Dude, get your GED and get a clue!
Get a decent PC and put a Linux distro that you like on it. There are some where the desktop simulates the crabapple look. Their OS is based on a linux kernel that nowadays runs on X64 hardware.
El Kiddo you clearly did not watch this entire video, and you clearly are another victim of Apple’s marketing. But hey, Thanks for the advice here, how nice to be told off by a “Kiddo”, that really adds further value to my life. You don’t have to believe me and it’s Fine if you don’t, but I know a few more things than you do about Apple as a business. Enough said.
I really appreciate your honesty, professionalism, detailed presentations, and aptitude for furthering your skills. Those are all traits that I aspire to emanate from my work.
Apple breaks their users hands just so they can hold their phone.
Apple users: "harder, and break my legs while you're at it."
Id say its engineering success. This type of engineering is what made them the first ever trillion dollar company. Making products easily breakable and paying ridiculous fees to repair them is the name of the game. They cant be this incompetent. It must be purposely designed like this.
Exactly. Its part of the business plan for sure. Make people pay as much/many times for their products and services as possible. Apple is one the most greedy companies out there, but then again people choose to support and buy their products themselves. So who is really to blame? But the REALLY shady business practices like saving money on repair and such. Greed from Apple knows no limit. And yet its OH SO TRENDY. Come on Apple is crap, and a parasite in the IT world.
The Auto Industry has done this for decades. You see this most often in Automatic Transmissions. Life on them is 60-80k miles. Realistically if built to the best possible standards with all of the aftermarket parts... 100-120k is more then possible. Usually it comes down to a little tighter tolerances to get the shift over faster... which means less heat and less wear on the clutches and more steel to reduce flexing and add strength. (replacing some aluminum parts for steel ones)
Oh yeah have you seen the new budget friendly iphone? Has the same resolution as a iphone 4(720p). Apple did this on purpose to create a gap between the 2 new iphones. Prompting you to get thr $1300 phone.
Planned obsolescence - things designed to break on purpose.
Obviously. No shit.
Who needs common sense when you can think different?
I know I’m late to the game as this was posted 4 years ago, but it was a shocking eye-opener. I’ve been a Mac guy for a couple decades and will find it difficult to ween myself from the eco system. I have owned some of those units without failure and have owned others and experienced those failures.
Will definitely hesitate before my next purchase and will take a look at your suggested list of well build machines.
Another reason to never buy Apple, I have never bought into their hype
I never bought an apple product but I have stolen several iPods when I was younger. They are like gold on the black market.
I heard that muggers go after the white earbuds
I dont really care about peoples opinion about apple of they hate it or not if android is better or not all devices are equal but apple sued samsung lol that sucks
Thanks for the video. As a software developer, I can say that everything you have said about Apple hardware is applicable to Apple software, Apple is the only company that can make developer software incompatible with they own devices.
Apple, you are using it wrong. Quick time on the PC was a nightmare
Remember the switch to Intel chips? Glad I was done with Crapple by then. Oh wait...they rumored to switch again to in-house CPUs come 2020. Fun times to be had for the crapple sheep.
A10 chip, custom ARM cpu
Niya Blake ah yes the A10. The almost A 10 chip but will operate more like a 3 or 4 after a few beers.
Indeed, I'm both software and hardware, and I don't ever want to see apple devices at all.... They are just total garbage.
"When someone screws you, just stop spending money with them."
IF ONLY PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT!
YOU
DO
NOT
HAVE
TO
BUY
Yes but ofcourse they don't want to spend money on any other product because they are sheep
Ha! Try saying that to every battlefield and CoD fanboy
@@manyuyara5376 ha your a dumbass
@@wonderfulzen2009 throws iPhone out the window... Oh shit that was expensive
But that suck many of good stuff only works on OSX and all the developer need it
This video, 3.5m views speaks the truth and still doesn’t have enough views it should.
I love this guy, unlike everyone in my class, he gets it
(Apple is crap)
crapple say apple say you time Any
@@tristinbell Stay in school, son.
@@tristinbell yes
@@tristinbell washing machine
Apple is SHIT*
I will never understand why people buy Apple products. I've been using PC since around 2004, and yes, some of computers I've bought have been terrible. But the beauty of PC is that for desktops (and certain laptops) you can just replace whatever sucks because the unit is basically just a shell. And if you don't like the Windows operating system you can replace that too, just switch to Linux. Hell, you can even run macOS on a PC if you're so inclined.
You will never understand because you don't buy or own any of the apple product. Simple as butter! Isn't ?
@@sheheryarshahbaz911 I like my stuff as simple as installing Arch linux (literally manual, absolute freedom).
sheheryar ali lol u r so delusional it's hilarious
@@sheheryarshahbaz911 I have both an imac an Iphone 7 and I can say that it sucks SO MUCH . 10-10 would never go buy it again. Prefer razor pc and an oppo f7
My iMac is 10yearsold on still working thats why i like it and i think the price is good
I came here to see a fully adult guy saying happy, sad for 1 minute
worth
Totally worth it.
Lmao
*Best one minute of my life*
@@indonesia8394 I agree.
This is the best Apple commercial I've seen, Thank you Louis
I feel many Apple buyers suffer from cognitive dissonance caused by buying an overpriced piece of hardware. Paying the high price creates the cognitive dissonance. This feeling of unease is resolved by convincing oneself that it's price is justified because it's a superior product. The problem arises when that piece of hardware fails. In such a case people who bought a cheap computer can easily come to the conclusion that it's just a cheap crappy machine. But it is not that easy for Apple buyers. Due to the cognitive dissonance they are highly motivated to come to another conclusion, hence the Apple story continues.
This makes a scarily large amount of sense
^this
And this: www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-08/bps-wyc083116.php
Everyone with their conclusion, but it doesn't look like Apple users are generally very nice people.
Kelkschiz nice to see you here
They know what they were doing, and they knew people will still defend them regardless of any critical flaw.
It just werks.
Based on the fact that he liked your comment and it was only posted 44 minutes ago, clearly he has seen my previous one and refuses to argue against my very valid point. hahaha
Apple isn't the best company in the world nor the worst. I respect Apple's first iPhone for making a smart phone that didn't suck ass in 2007 and also for SIRI which came out in 2011(those were huge selling points for the consumers), but the problem is that they push for this "INNOVATION" marketing brand and started marking up their prices for their PC's, when competitors sold for less and had equal components that rivaled the Apple PC products.
Apple is the most valuable company because Apple is the best company in the world. Economics doesn't lie. They make products everyone wants. If you think every Apple customer out there is a braindead moron, you are an asshat.
When did I say Apple customers are brain dead? people have multiple reasons to whether it'd be 4k Camera/Video or simple and reliable apps. Yes the numbers don't lie but have they thought what the consumer wanted or what to improve with their products? or the longevity of their products? Then again they are targeting people who have cash to spend.
Even so, I don't like defending any sort of company since they all have one goal in mind, Profit Potential.
Imagine having one of the iPhone models that were actually good just for one day to install an update that makes your phone slow as a sloth lool
There hasnt been a good apple product in years and finding the one that hasnt had that update is damn near impossible
I'm still running iOS 8-point-something on my 5s specifically for that reason, if I could have it my way I'd still be on iOS 7. This phone will last me forever if I never update it.
TeamAlive2011 except that they rolled that back next update
@@klebs7724 wdym
Is there a most recent video like this for the issues with 2018 models? Louis is the most knowledgeable person I've ever seen on UA-cam for Macs wow wtffff
Sata cables are truely the height of engineering. I once paid a whole $2 for one at a local store.
Those Apple cables are about $20, and they aren't any more reliable than the originals.
lol seems the usual ~8-10x increase like on the keyboards (normal25$ , Apple, 200$
Apple to the tech industry is what American healthcare is to normal healthcare.
My buddy just got his third replacement for his four month old latest iPad.
He is not very happy about it...
He deserves it for buying Apple's trash.
@@Miranox2 He needs to switch to Android or a better brand*
I’ve been using my iPad for years and I’ve had no problems.
@@hgdd2422 the iPad 1 and 2 were decent at least, I hate apple but hey, at least they didnt bend or melt
@@hgdd2422 leaving it on the charger isnt using it.
As if I didn't have enough reasons to hate Apple.
max bkt, did you watch the video? At the end, he explains exactly why it's bad for everyone.
max bkt so you don't care if other people get screwed over? Says alot. Who cares if other people are dying in a hurricane on the other side of the country it doesn't affect me so why should taxes go to repairing and helping their lives it doesn't do anything for me. That's you. A fool.
max bkt That's sad? NO It is BS. Here is why. When a Company screws over consumers and fans keep buying than this same Company will continue to screw people over. This also spreads to other Companies as they will see how dumb people are and will join in on this trend and screw others over as well. Just look at the gaming industry with XBOX and PlayStation, and if you think they aren't screwing people over than I recommend that you watch some videos here on youtube. Nintendo is just as bad as well. '
I have to also ask. How do you know Clockwork doesn't hate apple because of a product he has bought, or knows someone that has bought a product. Apple is HORRIBLE. I personally am happy to see them on top that list of bad companies right along side of EA. They do not care about you, will make a cheap product and market it as if you are dumb and charge you way too much money for it.
What is sad to me is that you come here bashing someone that doesn't like apple. Are you a fanboy? I hope you learned something from this video. If you did not than you are a reason for horrible practices that apple and other companies make. Thanks!!!!
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max bkt fuck off you 6 year old shit
Great video! I am extremely lucky - I’ve never had an Apple device fail on me! However … my first Mac was the “MacBook Pro Mid 2012 unibody non-retina” - about the *only* one without hardware design flaws (except thermal). Thermal paste + fan control is the first app I ever install. 4TB SSD! Also, MBP 17” 2009 secondhand, $50 and a proper cap from your website. And MBP 17” mid-2012 (home-made), and iPhone 4S, 5S, 6s, 8. Won’t buy anything newer than Unibody mi$-2012 and iPhone 8 Plus. Keep up the good work and #RightToRepair!