Upgrading this Pre-built is WAY harder than it should be
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Upgrading something as simple as the RAM on this Acer Nitro 50 Pre-built gaming PC is harder than it should be.
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I've mentioned in the last video relating to this that I have the same PC with different specs, any tips on what I should do with this? I was thinking about rebuilding it.
I also think that you should do one more video on this.
First step buying a pre-build system, Format C:\, clean and fresh windows installation.
Oh for sure. The herpes in these systems out of the box is on another level.
How can you can Window license after formating C disk?
If I recovery system, will recovery clean bloatware?
It won't be as perfect as a fresh install but it's pretty close
@@kkhang8617 your bios saves your key nowadays, also normally there's still the windows sticker on the case
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Tf you talking about, what's wrong with Raid Shadow legends?
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@@DawidDoesTechStuff hey I need help could you build a new PC with the gpu from that pc
Lol. I can’t believe the RAM caught on fire. What the hell! Upgrading should be easy - especially considering its price and place in the market as a prebuilt.
I'm surprised the PC killed the ram
out of everything it could have killed
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Yea I’ve never really heard of RAM sticks getting burnt up in a situation like this. Happened to my computer once when my bro installed a video card with the Ethernet still plugged in (my only conclusion as to why the system burnt 1/3 RAM sticks)..
@@MiguelLopez-hh7lf wait how did that cause a problem?
@@IanC14 ethernet still runs some amount of power, and who knows for what reason 1 RAM stick got completely burnt out. Idk why else it would of done that
"Put an SSmyD in it!" I want this on a shirt😅😅
That is an awesome idea! That will definitely happen at some point!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff so cool! Check out my vid you inspired me to do. Next one involves safety scissors lol
@@therantman4120 clever self promo
super solid my d
You missed an opportunity to name the video "THIS PC DESTROYED MY RAM (CAUGHT FIRE) WE ALMOST DIED!!" Couldve had a viral video on your hands
That yummy clickbait. 😂 Only if I got footage of the actual death.
Third, also THAT SPONSOR FAKE, I WAS SUPER WORRIED
Me to
why?
he can just take their money and he could just add a timestamp to skip the ad in the description to make it a lot easier for us all by just saying pause and press the timestamp to skip the ad and then just doing the ad to take the money
the second you said Rai- nearly nearly skipped ahead XD
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It's still amazing to me how many folks DON'T have an SSD in their lapptop/desktop these days still.
It is surpising. Especially how many new PCs are sold without them. 😁
thats because most people arent aching for faster computers. they think what they currently have is good enough. its easy for us who like this kind of stuff to say that.
I'm one of them. My first SSD was on a very old laptop I have currently (2GB Ram, Core Duo T2400) that I don't use anymore myself. Still rocking with an HDD like it's 2005.
I finally bought one a few months ago, and everything is just way better. It's like having had a stuffy nose your entire life, and suddenly it's cleared. Now I need to do the same to my brother's old computer. My hard drive, a 1TB, has 64MB of cache, which isn't amazing, but it's 7200rpm and a pretty good drive. My brother's computer boots from a 500GB hard drive, that runs at 5400rpm, and has 8MB of cache. Ouch. So I need to fix that soon.
I'm an ssd fanboy but I find my 1tb Toshiba hard drive inside my main pc runs at an acceptable speed, it might also just be my 16gb of ram... (boot 32s, browser opens in 3s). Laptop hard drives are a meme thou, unbearably slow and prone to fall and shock damage.
It’s kinda like herpes? Sounds like you’re speaking from experience Dawid 🤨
Raid: Shadow Legends?
I definitely wasn't expecting such a pain to do simple upgrades with this system. Acer seems to be about profit over ease of use or upgrade-Ability. Glad you looked into this Dawid. I would stay away from this Nitro Nightmare.
I got mine for Christmas and it’s not bad but the upgrade part is
Every OEM has been doing this for the last decade or so, but that's what happens when the most profitable company in the US is a god forsaken tech OEM that maintains that position by actively gimping the longevity of their own user's products.
People will imitate.
it happened again, this was posted right as i check youtube lol
Haha!! We are clearly just on the same wave length.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff These problems you had are the exact reason im scared to buy pre-builts. i would much rather build a pc with older used parts, that way i will at least know what im buying.
But a Dell Optiplex tower might be easier to upgrade
I think they are. I want to do a video on one soon. :D
very easy actually. that was my first "gaming" pc. stuck a 1050ti and added a couple sticks of ram. its a great way for someone that's on the fence about buying a new console or going with a pc to dip their toes in the water a bit. I'm glad I did, now i'm an avid free diver lol.
They are
My computer class uses Optiplex towers, I bought a broken Optiplex tower and found that it was the hard drive that stopped working.
I just finished upgrading my old Optiplex 7010 and it wasn't too bad until I replaced the borrowed GTX 550 with my own GTX 1070. To fit a 1070 I had to cut out the HDD bay and with the motherboard layout I had to unplug the front USB ports and I can only use one SATA port and the only reason I can use that one is because I have a SATA cable with a 90 degree bend similar to this one www.amazon.com/dp/B07JW9RMTG?tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1.
The Lenovo Thinkcenter towers are also easier to upgrade
This is my first time seeing a RAM pin fried. lmao
The RAM spec you showed actually had 2133 as the base frequency!
I HATE prebuilts that are full of propietary stuff that make them unupgradable.
I had one with a 22pin power conector. And they also switched some pins around so you can't use a normal PSU on it
Same with a scavenged HP omen prebuilt, non standard ATX board, non ATX PSU (both by form factor and connectors), non standard CPU cooler.
If you are ever having trouble uninstalling programs i suggest revo uninstaller it usually can clean up persistent programs but a reinstall of windows is best option
Thanks so much for showing us scenarios that we ourselves may experience and possible solutions for them. Keep up the good work! Can’t wait for the next video!
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Now onto the physical upgrades...er...mods. Side panel window mod?!
I've got a prebuilt that is similar to this but without bloatware and with an 250 gb ssd.
Edit: My only worry with it so far may be the psu because I do not know the manufacturer.
The PSU is the best part about this prebuilt in my opinion. FSP is good. 👍
Pre-builts in my experience tend to have good quality psus
Don’t worry about the PSU. While these prebuilt manufacturers try to cut corners in every way they can, the system are still made to last. They don’t put cheap dodgy chinese ones in them.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff my Lenovo is equipped with an FSP, but it only has 14 pin and 4 pin connectors. Thank God for Lenovo.
It's a 280 watt unit, so there's no question in my mind that I need a new one if I want to upgrade to a new GPU.
The last time I saw 2x 4Gb sticks of RAM was 2011, lol.
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0:40 You are playing DRG! :D
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my first gaming pc was a Christmas gift it was a ACER GX-785-UR16 , i5-7400 , RX480 4G , 1TB hard drive , 8G of ram , Windows 10 Home ,. mouse , keyboard and 60 Hz 24 inch monitor . 700$ from Easy Rental . mine was a floor display . or it would have been 1000$ . i learned a lot from it and i still have it. i built my fist gaming pc last year . i played on my ACER for 3 years and it still works.
I can tell you, that upgrading prebuilts are ALL like this from big brands. I have had my Asus G11CD-K. Past 2 years I have swapped the GPU, PSU, and CPU. All worked flawlessly. Upgraded my RAM to G.Skill Ripjaws V 2 x 8 gb 3200mhz and my motherboard was clocked at 2400mhz max frequency. Okay, I installed it and it locked it at 2133. That's fine! Let me open my BIOS and... no xmp profile.
Great to see the Tech Yes plug. Really like how the Tech community works together.
As others said here, I would like to see a Dell Optiplex (or Lenovo Thinkcentre) build!
I have the nitro 50 and my ram is running at 2666 and I didn’t change it the only thing I did it’s I moved it to different places ans after all I just came back to the original places
Superb explaination keep it up !
I got this pc for my Christmas and I love it but I want to upgrade it for my birthday could you maybe show exactly how you upgraded it
I mean on the spec sheet for the RAM it does state that the base frequency as 2133
Exactly. For OEM systems like this you need to shop the base frequency. They almost will never run at the advertised speeds.
And to THINK i was THIS close to buying one of those.... Thank god the shop assistant talked me out of it and made me get a custom build
Even though the 2x8gb ram didn't really improve games that much it still increased the 1% and 0.1% lows. Also I think you should've also tested 16gb to see if upgrading to that would've made sense on that pc, and to see how much it would increase performance in games that use more than 8gb.
I wanted to also test 16Gb but after the system killed one of the kits of RAM I didn't feel comfortable putting any other RAM in it.
*edit* Oh in regards to the 1% lows they were better. However again for some reason Fortnite was still just as stuttery. Somebody mentioned the servers are struggeling at the moment.
@Mythical Yeah exactly, if someone were to buy this, having 16gb would really benefit the longevity of the system with games like RDR2 taking up to 11gb of ram, and playing games with other apps running on the background (discord etc.) would also hugely benefit from having 16gb of ram.
dual channel ram's main benefit comes with integrated graphics, that's where you can see substantial difference in gaming performance. Systems with dedicated GPU not really sensitive to single ram stick.
@@keymmortal6551 ty i just bought 2 8gb of ram
Another great video. I'm looking forward to seeing the next one
18sec? it take like 1-3 sec to boot into windows for me, unless I activate slow a** boot in bios
Frame dips on the lower end dropped dramatically on fully populated DIMM slots
Interesting to see how the dual channel tightens up the 1% and 0.1% lows
I have that same pc with only 8gb of ram, do you think it’s worth buying another 8gb ram with the same mhz and adding it to my pc so i can have dual instead pf single
I was going to subscribe and found out I already am! Great videos and always with sense of humor, love it!
Do a NZXT prebuilt
I found that the hardest thing to upgrade on my Asus pre-built was the cable management, seeing as the case was designed with absolutely none of it in mind.
Can you do a review on this monitor? I was looking for a budget 144Hz IPS 1080p Monitor when I stumbled upon it
I just recently bought one of these. Acer nitro i5-9400F/2tb HDD/256gb SSD/12gb ram/GeForce gtx 1050TI/ windows 10. And I was considering upgrading the ram to 16gb and the graphics card to a RTX 2060. I was wondering if you had any advice on that? I’m hoping not to catch a new computer and or graphics card/ram on fire
The thing is, premium RAM, which more or less all those nice sticks with heatspreaders are, they use XMP for their settings. With some slow JEDEC standard as a default to make sure things are stable is there is some instability, stuff crashes and the BIOS is reset.
Pre-built boards are made so restrictive such that someone who has no idea what they're doing (i.e. those who buy systems like this) can't accidentally key in a wrong number and crash the whole thing.
XMP settings are in fact overclocking, and thus these boards don't use it and refer to the JEDEC profile logged on the RAMs SPD chip.
Funny is that in 4:21 the JEDEC *is* actually listed, at the right-hand side the SPD entries.
All in all, this behaviour is completely as expected.
I have a HP Pavilion "Gaming" 690 and can sympathize, the mobo is glued in to the case, the PSU uses a proprietary connector, and the BIOS is locked. I'm just gonna build new. But I did manage to get a 16GB RAM stick and 500GB M.2 SSD in it to limp it along. The upshot is I have 2 free storage drives and a OS license that I can transfer to the new system so, more money for a GPU!
Hey Dawid.
I'm new to your channel.
What is your accent?
Is that Irish-Canadian.. (ish)?
Nice video! So does this motherboard stop you using XMP profiles on RAM? Only allowing a specific type? Wow. That''s bad!
It doesn't read XMPs at all. It seems to only look for a specific JEDEC profile. Ut really sucks that you can't manually set any of it.
@David Does Tech Stuff you almost made me skip the video when you almost said Raid Shadow Legends, cmon man 😂
Love me some DRG maybe ill run into you
That would be awesome!
Could you change case on this
With my Samsung system, deleting the bloatware was crazy difficult for they hid an app that would reactivate every time a clean install of Windows was done, automatically reinstalling the bloatware. The app, like a virus was cleverly hidden on the part of the hard drive where Windows would be reinstalled to and would be discovered by Windows on first boot, reinfecting the system. However I remembered from college, simply resizing the hard drive by just a megabyte makes the old files on the hard drive unreadable to Windows, eliminating the re-installation. Of course replacing the HD with an SSD always works, as long as one isn't stupid enough to download drivers from Samsung and therefore reinfecting your system! Great video.
They have restore partitions that automatically do that, you need to complete wipe all partitions not just the windows partition
@@theforerunnerreclaimer Thanks, I did wipe everything!
Thanks now I can do this with my own pc (i have the same pre build as you) 👌👍
Have you managed to change anything on this pc? I couldnt change gpu (doesnt boot) and whenever i change ram, the pc doesnt boot and just gives me a constant beep that never goes away. Im thinking the only way i can do anything to this pc is by changing bios, but im scared of bricking it lol.
@@TheBaconator2121 Acer locks their PCs to only use Acer-approved parts, makes it more expensive and harder for the user to upgrade because they can't use standard components
@@theforerunnerreclaimer yeah i got it all figured out. Had to reflash the bios and now I can change my ram and gpu :) scary to do that, but it worked so im not even gonna ask questions lol
Huh. I got this PC around two years ago, and now I’m just finding out I kinda got screwed over. Oh well, live and learn.
Same have you upgraded it and if you have what parts?
@@nnamdiokuma2787 I did actually. I added another hard drive and 8gb of ram. Mine has a GTX 1050 and a 8th gen i5 8400, and it should last me at least a few years until I actually build a pc
@@palopatrol6010 so do you think I can fit a new ssd cpu and GPU?
@@nnamdiokuma2787 cpu and ssd would fit fine. U may need to get a new copy of windows for the ssd though. For the gpu, my model only has a single fan, so it may be bit bit tight
what RAM did you install mate? looking for some for my nitro.
"Raid sha......." has heart attack.
i got a linus ad on this video lol
I have that pc but it's GX. It came with a 8gb Kingston ram so I bought another identical one. Mine is on 2400mhz and memory is crazy good now. Windows own processes clogged it up at 90% for nothing, now it's top at 40%. But the HDD is appalling. Again, windows is taking 100% disk at all times! Shut down everything. Main culprit is Sysmain - which refuses to go away. So I need to get a SSD.
I was fixing up an iBuyPower prebuilt for my friend's kid and it came with one lonely stick of 8GB @ 2933.
I found two mismatched sticks of 4GB from an old OptiPlex I had laying around; 2133 & 2400.
You know the motherboard looked at those sticks and said, "I got you, fam." When I checked in Windows, they were running at 2933.
WTF? RAM is weird.
Either window reported the speeds wrong, or more likely, you powered off the system, replaced the ram, and the XMP profile locked in (because you didn't clear the CMOS) then it ran at that speed, either way that is actually a good OC considering the ram would have defaulted to the lower speed of 2133 without any XMP profiles set. Curious to know if that config was stable, I got a 3200mhz kit without any cooling and cant lock in any higher then 3333mhz stable so I left it at default
I just bought this. Waiting for it in the mail. Reading the comments scares me a bit, but I do plan to add an ssd, and ram... But in all honesty, I don't plan to use this for gaming, but for music production. Should I upgrade the intel?
Is it possible I won't run into these problems if I'm not doing any serious gaming? Or that they won't be as troublesome?
Is there something you recommend I update anyway?
Thanks for the video!!
I upgraded this, for me it was pretty easy to upgrade, I'm upgrading the whole thing now
@TinyTimGames yeah, surprisingly easy actually
@TinyTimGames I upgraded e v e r y t h I ng, wish you luck!
@@ghozt1442 motherboard too?
Rather than only deleting the bloatware I would wipe WIndows out and reinstall it to see how much better it can be with the least bloatware possible. You can't even install a printer driver supplied by its manufacturer without a heap of bloatware you never wanted or never planned to use. The drivers themselves are really quite small but they might make you install a ton of bloatware to get them.
Well, for bloatwares, when I buy a laptop, the first thing I do is to reinstall with my own version of Windows on a new disk (in case of Warranty things). As for Desktop, I never buy prebuilts so ...
Oh no!!! Not the "sacrificial kit" of ram!!!!! LMAO
Is there any limit to infectious disease jokes? They slowly become the trademark of this channel ;)
I upgraded/ modded mine until its actually decent. Wasn't easy though!
I must say I never had elma issues but the temps were pretty bad.
Swapped out the cpu cooler for a nocua 90mm one
Put in an amd 6600
Took out the optical drive and added a fan in its place
Made feet for it so it has more clearance and drilled holes in the bottom so the gpu gets decent airflow.
Speaking as an Acer laptop owner. If you considering buying an Acer product, make sure you do you research before purchasing. I did and got what I was looking for but that was after a few hours of research
That is a good point! Research is always very important when it comes to buying any PC.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yes sir. Never buy without it.
Also Task Manager doesn't always report the right ram speed for some unknown reason, At least on my system its says im running DDR4 1066 when I as well run DDR4 2666, CPU-Z and other programs normally get it right.
i have this pc and putting in an m.2 ssd was a nightmare
Thanks for the video David, I have the Nitro 50-600 and I have been trying to upgrade the USB because I need more USB 3.0 ports but I bought a USB 3.0 PCI card to install only to find it's impossible to install it on this computer, there do not appear to be any room, so frustrating!
When you press on a video and suddenly realise its the video you wanted to watch. My brain does work sometimes
The Acer nitro 50 is bad temps but if you put msi after burner on max for gpu it stays normal and the Acer fan cpu they give u you can put that at 100 percent and to upgrade ram is a bit complicated you have to download cpu-z and you have check the exact ram and buy that same one and it will auto put speed at 2666mhz.
My first pc was brought by mum. It cost £910. i5 7400, 8gb DDR4 single channel. GTX 1060 3gb. No company name. 1TB hard drive. Was a Lenovo prebuilt
"was a lenovo prebuilt" was the eye catcher
Bitbat don’t hate it was like 2 years ago.
You reaffirmed my plan to build my own instead of buying a prebuilt, esp. an Acer.
Thanks!
Kudos on your choice of glasses. I really like them.
Where is your accent from? I'd say middle-eastern, someplace formerly part of the British em-payah.
That's true about JEDEC. You can run 2666Mhz only with XMP profile or JEDEC profile. Most of the cheapest OEM motherboards like Acer, Dell, Lenovo, ect. doesn't support XMP profile or even any memory options at all. So, you can run only with max supported JEDEC profile. For example I have GSkills Ripjaws V (XMP 3200Mhz) but my JEDEC profiles are only 2133Mhz, so by default the ram runs on 2133Mhz and if I want more speed I need a motherboard with memory options.
I run a 256GB SSD as my main drive (SanDisk) and also managed to salvage another 240GB one from my best friends old computer - both also have working windows on them - Great to have one to split as a work PC - Less distractions :D
I just want a pc and this mans is out here testing a ton
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This is totally similar to a DELL machine, including BIOS and board. Good SSD, good graphic card, and you need not worry about all these ram speeds and shit. Before your tests I had no doubt that it would do little if any, difference... As an it admin, the very first thing we do when we get new pcs (sometimes prebuilt) is just reformat. Quicker than removing all that crap. Writing this on a DELL 3847 inspiron tower with an RX580, i7 (gen4), 32gb ram, 256gb ssd and 4tb mechanical drive. Beats anything.
If you think that's a 'difficult' upgrade.
Got an old Acer sitting in the pile o puters that you have to remove the bios battery if you add or remove ram.
Can't just use the bios reset have to physically remove the battery or it won't recognize the added or just errors out when removed.
Think that may be the reason I avoid Acer's.
Now that you have shown the dif between 1 8 gb stick versus 2 4's, how about 2 8gb sticks of that basic ram they used? What is the performance of that?
it probably won't happen now since I assume it's not worth it now.... But it would have been nice to check if you ordered ram directly from a place that brags about 100% compatible ram (like crucial.com) if you would have gotten a kit that successfully runs at the rated speed.
That is a great suggestion. I will see if I can get RAM in time for the video where I compare this prebuilt to a different option. I can throw the information in there.
step 1 make sure the ram stick is the same code or whatever its called has the one inside the pc for example my old ram stick had 2666v on it so i got some gameing ram ddr4 sticks that have the same 2666v
Dawid, you scared the shit out of me with the RAID thing, because I've been getting their ads all week and thought they were going on a spree again.
Me
Netflix?.....nahh...
Dawid did a videos?....yessss....
A whole minute, damn. On my moms old pavillion, that would be amazing. On my computer, if it takes more than 6 seconds, it's been too long.
Hi, i have same pc and i wante to replace ram. Is there chance that it would break my 2 new hyper x 8gb sticks of ram?
Dawid, I have heard of folks flashing the bios of this particular machine into something less locked down, your thoughts?
Is it difficult to switch the gpu in this system? I’m thinking bout a 2060
I’m planning on doing the same thing
You should do a video on what gpu can you put in a Dell vostro 3470
I got this machine for my nephew a few years ago and wanna put in an SSD with a fresh install of windows but I don't know how to get his Windows 10 activation key. Any idea? Thanks in advance and great video keep up the good work
youre like the tech Craig Ferguson. Its awesome.
Haha!! Does that mean I should chat up my PCs more? :P
@@DawidDoesTechStuff you'll make those PC's rgb light up like fireworks!! haha
your fresh install of windows comes with the epic launcher???
Try upgrading a much smaller HP 8100 elite. Much more difficult considering its size and proprietary nature...........but I did it. Core i7-860, 16 gb ddr 1333 mhz (4x4 gb), Samsung and Kinston ssd drives, 1 tb hard drive, Nvidia GT 1030 graphics, Dvd writer, PCIX USB 3.0 card. All this with the stock 250 watt PS and side panel installed. The little machine that could.
Instead of trying to get the two 4-gig sticks to run at 2666, did you try underclocking the one 8-gig stick at 2133 to give a fair benchmark comparison?
I have a higher model for this pc but I’m curious about the cooling on it, should I be concerned?
hey i got this pc is there anyway you can upload a vid when you change the case to clear and add lights and stuff to the pc?
I think the issue with RAM is that the OEM Sticks are 2666 JEDEC while kits like Patriot, Corsair, etc are 2666 XMP and 2133 JEDEC (JEDEC being the basic SPD, no XMP whatsoever)
I don't know how you get those fps on Fortnite. Mine is on 13, laggy like nothing else. Save the world has no issues. I've done every single optimisation I can but there must 100% be a hardware issue.
Getting closer to that magic 100K Subs!
Mine came with a SDD.
The first thing to do after having bought a pre-build or a laptop is to nuke the pre-installed Windows and to reinstall from scratch. Especially with Acer products.
Oh for sure. They really pile on the crap.
MAN OH MAN! My Acer Laptop is fricking loaded with Bloatware!
Acer always is low end and we know it
When I buy a new laptop, I remove the original drive (HDD or SSD), and put a new one with a stock Windows (and I kept the original one in case if I must use Warranty)
I'd just nuke windows and install Linux 😎