Its insanely interesting, I also like watching what people concoct with different components etc. its entertaining, Id like to do it myself but who has the time/space/money.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Does the Acer case run hot when using the GT 1030?! There space is rather tight. Does the system support an Intel i3-3770?! Or only second gen I7? It would be interesting to see if it is possible to take the motherboard and install it into a new case with more space for a graphics card and better power supply.
@@nicholasmutsaerts3175 I mean it's almost pointless to even use these kinds of systems because Microsoft basically made a crap load of e waste anyways due to Windows 11
I had a refurbished HP with an i5 2500 that I put a 1050ti in and for the most part it was a super trooper. It is still in use. I sold it to someone who uses it for basic surfing and watching movies, minus the 1050ti that I sold for more than I paid for because.. everyone knows why. I put a GT610 in it before I sold it because I knew the guy wouldn't be gaming and I'd never sell a GT610 to a gamer unless I really really hated them.
I really like these old office PC upgrades, just wish Nvidia would release a GT 3030 already because we don't have any quality new low profile GPUs, and a low profile GTX 1650 is pretty rare now.
Idk what it is but back when I was high school going to the library and seeing the army of HP Compaq 6200 and 6300 SFF pcs just all powered on and running Windows 7 enterprise always during lunch I’d always go there to do video editing all the computers were rocking 8GB of DDR3 ram 2x4GB kit and usually either a i3-2100 or i3-2130’s. Good times that’s what’s started my love for building computers. And my old Computer science teacher gave me a old HP Compaq DC7700 that he just had sitting in his shelf. This videos brings memories back
My previous gaming setup was an old HP workstation that I put an i7-2600 and RX 570 into. Works very well, though the CPU sometimes bottlenecked stuff a little bit. The K version might allow enough of an overclock to take the bottleneck away in the same games.
I've had a few of those type of machines pass through my hands. I usually get a low profile Quadro K600 to slot into them for a little more GPU power. Slip in a decent i5, 250GB SSD and 8GB DDR1600 and use them for decent office/web/photoshop work.
Yeah, I've got a similar Dell system (3020, SFF) and I have a Quadro P620 in it. Great little graphics cards - low profile, single slot, and pretty capable. Also still fairly reasonable on eBay. Not sure why UA-camrs who do these sorts of builds don't have that as a go to card. The P620 is approximately the same as a GTX1050, and the P1000 is approximately a GTX1050 Ti (comparisons are a inexact). There's actually a low profile, single slot variant of the GTX 1050 in existence. But its from some weird Chinese company, only available from rather sketchy websites, and rather pricey for what it is. And yes, its a legit GTX 1050, not one of these reflashed fake cards.
I've definitely built with more than a few of these motherboards before. Dawid, the motherboard doesn't look like a standard form factor, but it actually is! You can transplant these with a standard power supply and case. I believe even the front panel might be standard-ish. :)
I sold a similar PC to my friend last 2018. Got a cheap office PC with 3rd gen i3 and slapped a GT1030 in it and voila, instant gaming PC which is good enough for a casual gamer like him. By casual I mean he's fine with running AAA games at 720p low. Now he's running an i5 8th gen and Rx570 that I also built using used parts.
I like that single12 pin connector to dual 8 pin on the be quiet psu. We really need a standard though for modular cables. Just think of the amount of hardware fried by noobs who (pretty understandability) thought their old psu cables would work with a new psu. I bought a 1000 watt corsair unit and dropped a decent amount of money on custom cables. Custom cables are great, but for the price it would be awesome if I could just use them with any power supply.
I did something kinda similar with an HP Slimline of about the same vintage. I believe all of those slim PC’s use mini-dtx so use can use a mini-itx board, which is what I did. I then got a higher power Flex-ATX or similar power supply, Ryzen 1600af(when they were $100 or less), b450 board, 3600 speed ram, and a GTX1650 half height card. It’s a surprisingly capable machine! One of my favorite builds by far.
I had two of these machines fitted with i7's, used to be my friends that he used as a storage server system. Ended up serving me as a gaming machine for 5 years before the motherboards kicked the can, literally within weeks of eachother. (No surprise, they were ex enterprise hardware from my old school that were deployed at the same time)
Honestly as much as I dunk on bad deals from the corpos for the performance, you really don't actually need it mostly because the average gamer is only playing 1080p, and a substantial number of people are still playing on 900p's or even 768p monitors which barely even need anything. You can even use such a complete piece of shit card as a 75w RX 550 and still be able to make most games playable on medium to low settings 1366x768 (but then why even would you at this point lol you can get better out of an iGPU afaik). So all that stated, yeah I'd still recommend that kids on a budget or younger folks in poverty mode (or hell old people on a fixed income) to look at old office machines and just know a little about them and you can still sometimes find a worthwhile deal. Like if you can get basically a 2500k or even an i7 3570 in an old office machine with the RAM, power supply all other stuff included for 100 bucks then go for it. I've seen some pretty decent mobos out there coming complete with a 4x4 or 2x8gb RAM kits and installed 3570k or 3770 in a z77 board on ebay for only like $150, which are clearly built and used by enthusiasts and some of these have CPUs that can easily be overclocked. The only thing I'd distrust is power supplies, but honestly the PSU is the only part of a Dell that's actually really good for some reason (maybe because as supplying major corporate interests, they know it not catching on fire or dying 2 years later is the one thing they can't get away with). So I'd encourage people to learn about the hardware and look into either that, or trying to cost compare to 12100f or 10300 or whatever systems on a really cheap board and cheap everything else with a used GPU, which I think should still come under $500 pretty easily. With an old repurposed office machine, often you can get away with only needing to buy the GPU, and a cheaper old one like a 970 or RX 470 or 270x or 980 or something like that shouldn't bottleneck while still being able to play most games on medium to high 1080p 60, depending which card. The only drawback is Dell boards are a complete piece of shit as you can see, and that includes the fact their BIOS is as awful as VRMs so there's no way to do overclocking.
I've had to install quite a few of those for work. Some really old CNC machines utilize serial/rs232 and it's easier & cheaper to use that then convert to a newer input method.
Waiting for a Dawid Does Tech Stuff video is like waiting for Christmas morning (super exciting)! Love the videos :D Keep it up! PS: Loved the slippers xD
I found one of these with a 4th gen i7 and a very old 120gb SSD w/ a less old 1TB hard drive that someone threw out. The bios on Acer’s page is an absolute mess but it’s otherwise not the worst thing to ever exist
When I started college I had a little Acer PC like this, mostly the same chassis. It had an Athlon II X4 645 and I added a Radeon HD 6670. The awesome part about it was I could stuff it into my backpack and take it over to friend's places to do some gaming. Back then a PC like that was just as fun and exciting as the high-end build I have today. You never forget where you started out!
Didn't realize you're in Vancouver. Now I've got my fingers crossed to one day see LMG bring you in as a cameo presenter for TechLinked. I'm sure you'd be awesome.
Free Geek is a great place, haven't been to the Portland location in a few years though. The local re-use store in town would charge $50 more for that same system, ugh!
Just wanted to mention that all those random and funny analogies are the best thing about watching dawid, its what makes me come back for every new video
Would have been fun to see some emulator gaming on that old rig. It's about the only thing they're good for anymore. The 1030 alone most likely would have been enough to run most anything you could throw at it.
DAWID! I've taken a few Acer Veriton motherboards and rigged them up into micro ATX cases as gaming PCs! They transplant relatively easily and a nice cheap way to upgrade the CPU is to throw in a Xeon. I'd upgrade the BIOS on that one then throw in a E3-1270v2 from eBay, transplant it into another case, drop a GPU in, and you'll be surprised. When I did my video doing this, it kicked butt. Feel free to reach out if you want any more info, I'm happy to help!
@@muhammadkhalil1664 Acer Veriton X2611G. They are a slim PCs but the motherboards use standard power connectors so if you can get one cheap, they transplant nicely. Takes 2nd and 3rd gen intel so if you find one, it may have a celeron in it so be prepared to buy a better CPU.
This was much better than I would have expected from an old $75 PC that was never fast even when it was new. It would be perfect for things like, web browsing, watching youtube videos, email, checking the weather.
Just a couple years ago I still used a 2600k. It was getting on the slow end paired up with my rx580 but then I managed to overclock it to 4.4Ghz and it worked really really well! Skylake K series are very underrated and still a really good budget option for today! Well, as long as you have good cooling for it.
I found pretty much the same PC with the following specs : i7 3770/8Gb RAM/GT 1030/1TB HDD I bought it two weeks ago for 75 euros :) (hard drive was described as faulty but in fact just needed a windows reinstall)
these is the exact pc that i bought 4 years ago for like 150 dollars at my local market man it was such a good pc i just upgraded the CPU with i5 3rd gen and damn man I did full film audio production projects on it being a poor freelancer. these pc really help me to pass my stressful days i just upgraded my setup with 13 gen intel and 3060ti but I still have these pc in my storeroom never goanna throw these away because it reminds me my struggling days.
mines rx 550 haha... + amd a6-6400k, well its actually my little brother's, he too busy to play games these days and my laptop died. This system really need some upgrades.. still serviceable tho.
@@melyanaioanna7644 Ryzen 5 4650G (i needed and APU before the Ryzen 5 5600G and i wanted it to be at least 6 cores 12 threads so i could use the iGPU until i got a GPU)
holy shit about that dentist thing, my orthodontics place that i go to, they have a BALLIN ASS pc for 3d modeling, its like intel xtreme and a ventus 2080super
I found this exact same machine at my European garbage dump, back in 2014... For free! Used it for 4 years as a nas during my college years, I immediately replaced it in 2018 after graduation and my first monthly income... The servers hostname was "Frankenstein", because that's how it looked like. It had 6 hdd's connected using pci-sata cards and molex to sata power convertors... Couldn't close the case due to the hdd's, so the disk hang outside the case..
ALWAYS make sure the grounds of the two PSUs are directly connected. You can very easily break when connecting two power supplies. Usually, the two using the same ground on the wall socket is good enough, but better safe than sorry. If your wall sockets happen to don't have a ground pin, its very important to interconnect that manually!
I would have liked to see results with the small GPU, the better CPU (was that the max for the motherboard?) with air cooling and more RAM and a SATA SSD.
I hate we don’t have an ewaste place here our cable company used to do it but quit years ago now it all goes in the trash so if you want a old pc you either find it in a dumpster or goodwill
that case could make a decent little server. unlike most modern small itx cases and sff business pcs with slim optical drives, you could actually fit two 3.5" hdds in there.
He does what most kids can afford.. buy a busted ass amazon refurb and pimp it out. The other tech UA-camrs get so far up their own anus it’s hard to care about what they have to say.. oh, that $20k PC given to you isn’t great huh? Nexxxxt
The best IGP upgrade for a Sandy Bridge system is an Ivy Bridge chip. The Intel HD4000 series of IGPs was a monumental jump in performance. In Laptops especially, the M-series of chips had such balanced CPU+GPU performance that not even a U-Series Skylake processor was getting close to their performance.
oh my god, this was the first PC i ever used (i was 6), i remember mine had 4gb of RAM and an i5 (no idea which generation it was). i have no idea where it ended up, but my parents replaced it with a dell desktop
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Curious to see how much of a bump a 3770k would have in this system. I know it’s not much faster, but even a few percentage points would be noticeable with how CPU bound you are.
2600k and 3770k perform almost identical because 3770k is limited by thermal overhead while the 2600k is soldered and cools a little easier, allowing it to catch up via an overclock The 3770k simply doesn't overclock well enough to make it up, the 2600k matches and even exceeds the 3770k depending on how well the 2600k clocks
You just have amazing content, and i love how it veers just enough into the more "adult theme" jokes without jumoing into demonetization land. HOWEVER! The reason I'm leaving a comment is that in 2011 I built a system with that very processor! Asus motherboard, a screaming 8gb of DDR3, and a WD Raptor HDD. Originally I had it paired with a Sapphire Radeon card, but in 2014(?) I "refreshed" it with a deep cleaning, a sata SSD, and an Nvidia 1050Ti that i bought for... about what you paid for this Acer. It was a speedy, breezy little computer, and I think it's still down in the basement.
Going up to 1440p might help by putting the load on the 3060 giving that little old i7 some relief. Also I love those ek AIO’s. I got the 360mm version and it’s awesome!
You should really try to use Valheim for GPU tests. This game REALLY tests a graphics card to its limits, if you push everything in the settings to the maximum and can arrange enemy spawners of two biomes near each other, preferably swamp with mountains or plains (they hate each other).
I remember replaying Bioshock on my laptop intel hd 5500 and getting 60fps high at 768p and Half Life 2 at high 1280x600 with over 70fps. Now it's not even a third of what integrated graphics can do 6 years after!
Remember Dawid you kill you when your playing with him and hes playing on a crappy pc cause he can't tell friend from foe in games on those crappy pc's
i did something like that to my girlfriend's pc, i picked up an office dell with an i3 and upgraded with an i7 2600, 12 gb of ram with gaming refrigeration and high speeds, put in an ssd, updgraded the power supply to an evga 600w 80 bronze and plugged in a GTX 1060 3gb and it runs everything nicely to be honest, she play sims 4 and TES V Special Edition, GTA V and other light titles without a problem and all for 250 US dollar - 300 euros. :D
I still use a rescue HP Compaq Elite 8200 with the core i5 2400, upgraded to 16 GB of RAM, with a Nvidia Quadro k600 for a server. Sips power, you can actually game on it, and does all of my server hosting and streaming needs! And it was 50 bucks. I bought another one for my uncle, threw in an 2 GB Radeon r7 250 instead of the Nvidia Quadro, and he uses it for his old games after I installed Windows 10 32 bit on it, It never gives him any problems, and he's happy with it for years!
Serial port still surprisingly useful in the corporate IT world, lots of stuff even fairly recent still strongarms you into using an RS-232 to RJ-45 cable to get access to it's CLI.
As much frankencomputering as you do, one would think you'd have one of those nifty 24 pin PSU jumpers that's wired to a lightup switch. This allows you to actually turn the jumpering on/off without touching a precariously placed "supplemental power PSU".
I was using a setup like this for a while. It was a Lenovo M91p with an i5-2400, 16GB of DDR3, and a PNY 1030 from my local Best Buy. Funny enough, I used it exclusively to play GTA V
I have a secondary PC like this, bought a Lenovo E73 for 30 bucks, added a i5 4570, 16G of DDR3, a 1030 and a small SSD, not a gaming beast by all means, but it does not struggle when doing most of the things i throw at it. Neat little box to browse web, stream music and watch x265 family souvenirs.
That wasn't a bad little system! I loved the overkill upgrades at the end, but personally, I'd have stuck with the GT 1030, upped the RAM to 16GB, swapped out the HDD for an SSD (and possibly added more storage if I could have fitted it in), and then gone with whatever CPU that was able to stay within the power requirements of the OEM PSU. Speaking of, the OEM PSU wasn't too bad, it at least had an 80+ Bronze sticker on it! Most cheapo OEM PSU's for an office PC won't have an 80+ rating at all.
reminds me of the first PC that was entirely mine. An Optiplex 745 with a decent nvidia card that a friend "borrowed" from a cupboard at his IT job. The little graphics card put out SOOO much heat that I had to keep the sidepanel off the case and the HDD sat outside and behind the case to keep the drive from overheating. LOL
I recycle these older machines into print servers, media servers and firewalls. Just look out for low powered CPU and onboard video. Fun turning them into gaming machines though - you don't need to spend $$$$$ unless you want to play games at the ultra maximum settings and are prepared to lose $$$$ when the next generation of components come out.
I used to be able to pick computers out of our local recycle place - not supposed to take things but i would 'exchange' my junk for theirs.. last time I went I was caught and it didn't go well. Most of the items I have taken have worked - its a shame they let it go to waste... I have to figure out what times someone isn't there :)
I love serial ports. I don't see that odd. It's useful to control cisco routers and other. That's good that you buy used computer at thrift store and restore them. Better then ending up at landfill. I have a emachine with a dual core amd sempron i added a dual intel and more ram now it protect my whole network. Converted to firewall using pfsense. Wow impress i didn't rebooted for 2 years. And had it for 5 years. It's doing great. :) Old computer can be repurpose.
8:30 is why I love this guy, I do this a lot also and have been building a very long time. I think the GT 1030 is about to take the 750TI's spot as a budget legend. I really want a GT 1030 just to abuse it.
The motherboard is some kind of extended microatx, the width of atx, and the height of microatx. I used to have the same machine and I transplanted the motherboard to an atx case without any problems. :)
Holy jesus. I bought 21 (yes 21) HP Pro 3300 SFF computers with an i3 2130+4GB RAM for £70 (around $92) last year. Not each, £70 for all 21 of them. No hard drives mind you but at that price I couldn't refuse!
I have an HP 8200SFF with a quad core i5-2400 and upgraded it with 16GB of ram, 256Gb SSD and a Yeston RX 550 4Gb graphic card, and it runs perfectily lightweight games. My kid loves it.
I only recently moved on from a Dell 7010 SFF (i5-3470) with a GT 1030 in it. Not amazing by any means but played everything I wanted to play and made for a great home computer. Now it's our shipping computer at work. (GT 1030 removed, of course!) Replacing the HDD with an SSD was such a massive upgrade I lost all interest in replacing it for years.
Hey Dawid, massive fan here! Just thought when I saw this, These Acer systems support MINI-ITX motherboards iirc, assuming there's a better power supply on the market that fit in the system (ie a server psu perhaps?) then maybe this would be a great candidate for a mini sleeper PC. Keep up the good work, and stay safe 😁
My Haswell era Dell Inspiron Small Desktop had that same limitation . . low profile, and right up against the edge of the case. BUT... that side of the case had vent-holes right where the GPU's fan was, so it did the job quite well. The card I used was a 55W Radeon R7 250E.
The Upgrade with the Low-Profile GPU wasn't that bad, also replacing the CPU with a cheaper 2500(k) would be good enough with an silent flat Aircooler on Top.
Is it weird that I prefer watching bad PC's trying to game more than I like watching higher end systems.
thats because most people wont buy 3090s and shit and lets be honest high end pc builds are overdone
Its insanely interesting, I also like watching what people concoct with different components etc. its entertaining, Id like to do it myself but who has the time/space/money.
Same, I have more fun messing with my old 1155 and FM1 hardware while my AM4 system collects dust
Probably because you know how the outcome will be for a high end system
Yea becouse its more interesting to see low end pc to game than high end pc cuz its interesting to see it run
I miss my little office pc. Having enough usb ports to run a graphics card off of on the front alone was soo helpful
That is always very useful to have!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Does the Acer case run hot when using the GT 1030?! There space is rather tight. Does the system support an Intel i3-3770?! Or only second gen I7? It would be interesting to see if it is possible to take the motherboard and install it into a new case with more space for a graphics card and better power supply.
@@nicholasmutsaerts3175 I mean it's almost pointless to even use these kinds of systems because Microsoft basically made a crap load of e waste anyways due to Windows 11
@@nicholasmutsaerts3175 I mean at the same time can you also get a low profile 1650 or 10:50 both perform the same
I had a refurbished HP with an i5 2500 that I put a 1050ti in and for the most part it was a super trooper. It is still in use. I sold it to someone who uses it for basic surfing and watching movies, minus the 1050ti that I sold for more than I paid for because.. everyone knows why. I put a GT610 in it before I sold it because I knew the guy wouldn't be gaming and I'd never sell a GT610 to a gamer unless I really really hated them.
"A staggering 4gb kit": staggering in the sense that it is likely to fall over at the slightest hurdle.
This was 2010 era computer, so it was plenty for office work. And even for gaming .
I really like these old office PC upgrades, just wish Nvidia would release a GT 3030 already because we don't have any quality new low profile GPUs, and a low profile GTX 1650 is pretty rare now.
t400 or t600. barely better than a modern igp, but a huge upgrade over the old hd whatever in something like this.
It’ll be interesting to see what changes happen in the low profile GPU space over the next couple years. Hopefully we get something good.
I wonder if decent igpus will overake the market for lower end graphics for the most part.
@@whoasked4588 how does it perform?
Like with which gpu it is comparable to?
(Don't mind me english lmao)
@@whoasked4588 wtf?
That's a laptop gpu right?
These videos make me want to ransack my local recycling center and buy mounds of used PCs to mess around with!
i used to buy refurbished computers and upgraded them to make cheap gaming pcs
It sounds like so much fun! When the market goes back to normal for GPUs I really want to get into doing stuff like that!
I'm thinking of ransacking my local pc recycler to get a half decent gpu currently....
@@buggerlugz6753 supply for GPUs is fine where I am but pricing sucks more than a Kirby vacuum.
buy 5 , they are cheap as chips out there sometimes everything but hdd .
Idk what it is but back when I was high school going to the library and seeing the army of HP Compaq 6200 and 6300 SFF pcs just all powered on and running Windows 7 enterprise always during lunch I’d always go there to do video editing all the computers were rocking 8GB of DDR3 ram 2x4GB kit and usually either a i3-2100 or i3-2130’s. Good times that’s what’s started my love for building computers. And my old
Computer science teacher gave me a old HP Compaq DC7700 that he just had sitting in his shelf. This videos brings memories back
That's quite the frankenrig you ended up with. The 2600K still has some decent gaming chops.
Yeah, even with the low core clock it was managing a solid 60 fps.
My previous gaming setup was an old HP workstation that I put an i7-2600 and RX 570 into. Works very well, though the CPU sometimes bottlenecked stuff a little bit. The K version might allow enough of an overclock to take the bottleneck away in the same games.
Thats what i set up my nephew with, along with a gtx 970 in a lenovo office pc build. It's still chugging along for now.
Though it should be cranked up to 4.5+ GHz which isn't a thing on these office motherboards.
I still game on a 2500. 770 GTX, 16gb ram... and a 22 year old (mmo) game :)
I've had a few of those type of machines pass through my hands. I usually get a low profile Quadro K600 to slot into them for a little more GPU power. Slip in a decent i5, 250GB SSD and 8GB DDR1600 and use them for decent office/web/photoshop work.
Yeah, I've got a similar Dell system (3020, SFF) and I have a Quadro P620 in it. Great little graphics cards - low profile, single slot, and pretty capable. Also still fairly reasonable on eBay. Not sure why UA-camrs who do these sorts of builds don't have that as a go to card. The P620 is approximately the same as a GTX1050, and the P1000 is approximately a GTX1050 Ti (comparisons are a inexact). There's actually a low profile, single slot variant of the GTX 1050 in existence. But its from some weird Chinese company, only available from rather sketchy websites, and rather pricey for what it is. And yes, its a legit GTX 1050, not one of these reflashed fake cards.
@@ccoder4953 can i put a quadro p1000 something smh with a i7 4790?
I've definitely built with more than a few of these motherboards before. Dawid, the motherboard doesn't look like a standard form factor, but it actually is! You can transplant these with a standard power supply and case. I believe even the front panel might be standard-ish. :)
Can confirm. I believe it's like an extended mATX
At that point you're just better of getting a z67 motherboard or something, rather than the workstation.
@@alexanderjohansson2671 Main idea is to salvage old computers.
No way! It’s a shame I missed that detail. Thanks for letting me know. 👍
I sold a similar PC to my friend last 2018. Got a cheap office PC with 3rd gen i3 and slapped a GT1030 in it and voila, instant gaming PC which is good enough for a casual gamer like him. By casual I mean he's fine with running AAA games at 720p low.
Now he's running an i5 8th gen and Rx570 that I also built using used parts.
CS:GO can go lower than 720p you have to change your aspect ratio to 4:3 in order to see the other options.
I like that single12 pin connector to dual 8 pin on the be quiet psu. We really need a standard though for modular cables. Just think of the amount of hardware fried by noobs who (pretty understandability) thought their old psu cables would work with a new psu. I bought a 1000 watt corsair unit and dropped a decent amount of money on custom cables. Custom cables are great, but for the price it would be awesome if I could just use them with any power supply.
I did something kinda similar with an HP Slimline of about the same vintage. I believe all of those slim PC’s use mini-dtx so use can use a mini-itx board, which is what I did. I then got a higher power Flex-ATX or similar power supply, Ryzen 1600af(when they were $100 or less), b450 board, 3600 speed ram, and a GTX1650 half height card. It’s a surprisingly capable machine! One of my favorite builds by far.
I had two of these machines fitted with i7's, used to be my friends that he used as a storage server system. Ended up serving me as a gaming machine for 5 years before the motherboards kicked the can, literally within weeks of eachother. (No surprise, they were ex enterprise hardware from my old school that were deployed at the same time)
Honestly as much as I dunk on bad deals from the corpos for the performance, you really don't actually need it mostly because the average gamer is only playing 1080p, and a substantial number of people are still playing on 900p's or even 768p monitors which barely even need anything. You can even use such a complete piece of shit card as a 75w RX 550 and still be able to make most games playable on medium to low settings 1366x768 (but then why even would you at this point lol you can get better out of an iGPU afaik).
So all that stated, yeah I'd still recommend that kids on a budget or younger folks in poverty mode (or hell old people on a fixed income) to look at old office machines and just know a little about them and you can still sometimes find a worthwhile deal. Like if you can get basically a 2500k or even an i7 3570 in an old office machine with the RAM, power supply all other stuff included for 100 bucks then go for it. I've seen some pretty decent mobos out there coming complete with a 4x4 or 2x8gb RAM kits and installed 3570k or 3770 in a z77 board on ebay for only like $150, which are clearly built and used by enthusiasts and some of these have CPUs that can easily be overclocked. The only thing I'd distrust is power supplies, but honestly the PSU is the only part of a Dell that's actually really good for some reason (maybe because as supplying major corporate interests, they know it not catching on fire or dying 2 years later is the one thing they can't get away with).
So I'd encourage people to learn about the hardware and look into either that, or trying to cost compare to 12100f or 10300 or whatever systems on a really cheap board and cheap everything else with a used GPU, which I think should still come under $500 pretty easily. With an old repurposed office machine, often you can get away with only needing to buy the GPU, and a cheaper old one like a 970 or RX 470 or 270x or 980 or something like that shouldn't bottleneck while still being able to play most games on medium to high 1080p 60, depending which card. The only drawback is Dell boards are a complete piece of shit as you can see, and that includes the fact their BIOS is as awful as VRMs so there's no way to do overclocking.
Most new motherboards have com port but just as a header on the board itself, its still used in some cases. Thanks for sharing :)
Yes, I have a cable & bracket plugged into mine as a joke on my build
I've had to install quite a few of those for work. Some really old CNC machines utilize serial/rs232 and it's easier & cheaper to use that then convert to a newer input method.
serial is used all the time to configure current day applications like pfsnese, freenas, and many hardware appliances. Not dead at all imho.
Waiting for a Dawid Does Tech Stuff video is like waiting for Christmas morning (super exciting)! Love the videos :D Keep it up! PS: Loved the slippers xD
I challenge u to upgrade a pc which only has a 220W psu proprietary and a core i3-8100
@Cameron Aye regardless am always excited to see the next video :D
Haha the slippers are the best. He also has a Dino 🦖 pair ☺️
@Muhammad Ahsan he is 😍 I love it so much. Life with Dawid is just funnier 🤣
Agreed... Linoooode...
I found one of these with a 4th gen i7 and a very old 120gb SSD w/ a less old 1TB hard drive that someone threw out. The bios on Acer’s page is an absolute mess but it’s otherwise not the worst thing to ever exist
so I see you have polio
yes i use to build cheap pcs for local kids etc, lenovo e73 is best for flipping in 2017, they had 4th gen in it and could swap cases no issues
@@Chad.1337 why do you old people have an intel 4th gen fetish for some reason what's wrong with the newer 6th gen lenovos?
@@raven4k998 6th gen is old too
@@raven4k998 wait, i thought u had polio,
The way Dawid says PC is almost as adorable as how he says GT 1030.
Then thiri
Don't be gay, I mean sus...
waiting for the day where the SPLOSION cam actually comes in handy
I'm waiting for the 1-2 punch of
"This video is sponsored by Gigabyte"
"We're going to be trying out New World on this system"
When I started college I had a little Acer PC like this, mostly the same chassis. It had an Athlon II X4 645 and I added a Radeon HD 6670. The awesome part about it was I could stuff it into my backpack and take it over to friend's places to do some gaming. Back then a PC like that was just as fun and exciting as the high-end build I have today. You never forget where you started out!
Didn't realize you're in Vancouver. Now I've got my fingers crossed to one day see LMG bring you in as a cameo presenter for TechLinked. I'm sure you'd be awesome.
I'm glad i'm not the only person who has had every aspect of their life intertwined with Elden Ring. I'll give ya 300 runes for the finished product!
Free Geek is a great place, haven't been to the Portland location in a few years though. The local re-use store in town would charge $50 more for that same system, ugh!
Just wanted to mention that all those random and funny analogies are the best thing about watching dawid, its what makes me come back for every new video
Would have been fun to see some emulator gaming on that old rig. It's about the only thing they're good for anymore. The 1030 alone most likely would have been enough to run most anything you could throw at it.
DAWID! I've taken a few Acer Veriton motherboards and rigged them up into micro ATX cases as gaming PCs! They transplant relatively easily and a nice cheap way to upgrade the CPU is to throw in a Xeon. I'd upgrade the BIOS on that one then throw in a E3-1270v2 from eBay, transplant it into another case, drop a GPU in, and you'll be surprised. When I did my video doing this, it kicked butt. Feel free to reach out if you want any more info, I'm happy to help!
This is the vid, I did it with a haswell gen version. Only important front panel header to connect is the power button.
youtu. be/7pccrroBm1Q
I do love those acer veritons, so easy to transplant to a nicer case because of the lack of proprietary shenanigans.
Hey! Can you specify this veriton's model number specifically? Plzzz 🙏
I really like it and I wanna buy it
@@muhammadkhalil1664 Acer Veriton X2611G. They are a slim PCs but the motherboards use standard power connectors so if you can get one cheap, they transplant nicely. Takes 2nd and 3rd gen intel so if you find one, it may have a celeron in it so be prepared to buy a better CPU.
This was much better than I would have expected from an old $75 PC that was never fast even when it was new. It would be perfect for things like, web browsing, watching youtube videos, email, checking the weather.
Just a couple years ago I still used a 2600k. It was getting on the slow end paired up with my rx580 but then I managed to overclock it to 4.4Ghz and it worked really really well! Skylake K series are very underrated and still a really good budget option for today! Well, as long as you have good cooling for it.
4.4GHz is very low for that chip. Get a nice 240mm rad, 5GHz is doable.
oh my gosh, the 2nd upgrade is just hilarious :O
Would be cool to see how much you could upgrade but inside the limitations of the case
You could put more RAM, and better CPU to pair with 1650 .
OMG I absolutely adore that Frankenstein mess of a computer. Something so cyberpunky about slapping components together in such a way.
Right, i would have propably just sawed off that side panel for more room^^
I found pretty much the same PC with the following specs : i7 3770/8Gb RAM/GT 1030/1TB HDD
I bought it two weeks ago for 75 euros :) (hard drive was described as faulty but in fact just needed a windows reinstall)
Nice deal!
these is the exact pc that i bought 4 years ago for like 150 dollars at my local market man it was such a good pc i just upgraded the CPU with i5 3rd gen and damn man I did full film audio production projects on it being a poor freelancer. these pc really help me to pass my stressful days i just upgraded my setup with 13 gen intel and 3060ti but I still have these pc in my storeroom never goanna throw these away because it reminds me my struggling days.
I am still rocking that rx 580 from 4 years ago
i'm still using my GTX 1060 6GB and it's still good
mines rx 550 haha... + amd a6-6400k, well its actually my little brother's, he too busy to play games these days and my laptop died. This system really need some upgrades.. still serviceable tho.
That card will never bloody die. It's still going to be good for 1080p medium settings when we colonise Mars.
@@rzfszn same gpu as you but can you tell me what processor you are using on your build?
@@melyanaioanna7644 Ryzen 5 4650G (i needed and APU before the Ryzen 5 5600G and i wanted it to be at least 6 cores 12 threads so i could use the iGPU until i got a GPU)
"Step #1 in firing up this pod racer." Very apt choice of words. Very cool.
holy shit about that dentist thing, my orthodontics place that i go to, they have a BALLIN ASS pc for 3d modeling, its like intel xtreme and a ventus 2080super
I found this exact same machine at my European garbage dump, back in 2014... For free!
Used it for 4 years as a nas during my college years, I immediately replaced it in 2018 after graduation and my first monthly income...
The servers hostname was "Frankenstein", because that's how it looked like. It had 6 hdd's connected using pci-sata cards and molex to sata power convertors... Couldn't close the case due to the hdd's, so the disk hang outside the case..
I'm hoping to build a computer with my kids. I've learned a ton watching your videos. Thank you
ALWAYS make sure the grounds of the two PSUs are directly connected. You can very easily break when connecting two power supplies. Usually, the two using the same ground on the wall socket is good enough, but better safe than sorry. If your wall sockets happen to don't have a ground pin, its very important to interconnect that manually!
I would have liked to see results with the small GPU, the better CPU (was that the max for the motherboard?) with air cooling and more RAM and a SATA SSD.
You would not get much with better CPU with Gt 1030, RX 550 and similar cards. And for a better card you would need better PSU.
I hate we don’t have an ewaste place here our cable company used to do it but quit years ago now it all goes in the trash so if you want a old pc you either find it in a dumpster or goodwill
I love when people upgrade old trash computers like this :D
i actually upgraded pentium II 400 with overkill parts
512MB RAM
crucial mx100 256 GB SSD
nvidia fx 5200
win98SE
USB 2.0
DVD ROM/DVD-RW
that case could make a decent little server. unlike most modern small itx cases and sff business pcs with slim optical drives, you could actually fit two 3.5" hdds in there.
Every other tech youtuber makes insane pc builds ... but dawid brings insanity to a whole new level and it is far better than anyone else.
He does what most kids can afford.. buy a busted ass amazon refurb and pimp it out. The other tech UA-camrs get so far up their own anus it’s hard to care about what they have to say.. oh, that $20k PC given to you isn’t great huh? Nexxxxt
The best IGP upgrade for a Sandy Bridge system is an Ivy Bridge chip. The Intel HD4000 series of IGPs was a monumental jump in performance. In Laptops especially, the M-series of chips had such balanced CPU+GPU performance that not even a U-Series Skylake processor was getting close to their performance.
oh my god, this was the first PC i ever used (i was 6), i remember mine had 4gb of RAM and an i5 (no idea which generation it was). i have no idea where it ended up, but my parents replaced it with a dell desktop
How old are you now? 15? 😂
I think the scalpacalypse has ended, Microcenter was packed with any GPU you could want yesterday. Their MSRPs are just still too high.
A great build option for someone who blew their entire budget on the GPU
more fire when he's swimming in crude oil would kill him🤣😂🤣
Hot rodding old Lenovo's now ? sweet! I just did this to a sff 7010 worked out very well!
here have some old polio
When your graphics card costs 100x more than your system...🤣
modern games cost more than the system xd
You have gave me the most fun experience from the Tech community, please keep giving us more content,
We love you’re videos
Man i need you to do more videos please
Thank you for every minute you dedicate to us
Curious to see how much of a bump a 3770k would have in this system. I know it’s not much faster, but even a few percentage points would be noticeable with how CPU bound you are.
2600k and 3770k perform almost identical because 3770k is limited by thermal overhead while the 2600k is soldered and cools a little easier, allowing it to catch up via an overclock
The 3770k simply doesn't overclock well enough to make it up, the 2600k matches and even exceeds the 3770k depending on how well the 2600k clocks
@@philcooper9225 you can’t overclock on this board, so it’d be stock for stock.
@@philcooper9225 which will still only be 2-3%, but just curious.
@@_Dandy_S oh yeah I dunno how I missed "in this system" my bad homie
@@philcooper9225 no problem man
You just have amazing content, and i love how it veers just enough into the more "adult theme" jokes without jumoing into demonetization land. HOWEVER! The reason I'm leaving a comment is that in 2011 I built a system with that very processor! Asus motherboard, a screaming 8gb of DDR3, and a WD Raptor HDD. Originally I had it paired with a Sapphire Radeon card, but in 2014(?) I "refreshed" it with a deep cleaning, a sata SSD, and an Nvidia 1050Ti that i bought for... about what you paid for this Acer. It was a speedy, breezy little computer, and I think it's still down in the basement.
Going up to 1440p might help by putting the load on the 3060 giving that little old i7 some relief. Also I love those ek AIO’s. I got the 360mm version and it’s awesome!
I show that comment somewhere else
You should really try to use Valheim for GPU tests. This game REALLY tests a graphics card to its limits, if you push everything in the settings to the maximum and can arrange enemy spawners of two biomes near each other, preferably swamp with mountains or plains (they hate each other).
It even pushes my 1080 ti.
I remember replaying Bioshock on my laptop intel hd 5500 and getting 60fps high at 768p and Half Life 2 at high 1280x600 with over 70fps. Now it's not even a third of what integrated graphics can do 6 years after!
Remember Dawid you kill you when your playing with him and hes playing on a crappy pc cause he can't tell friend from foe in games on those crappy pc's
i did something like that to my girlfriend's pc, i picked up an office dell with an i3 and upgraded with an i7 2600, 12 gb of ram with gaming refrigeration and high speeds, put in an ssd, updgraded the power supply to an evga 600w 80 bronze and plugged in a GTX 1060 3gb and it runs everything nicely to be honest, she play sims 4 and TES V Special Edition, GTA V and other light titles without a problem and all for 250 US dollar - 300 euros. :D
I still use a rescue HP Compaq Elite 8200 with the core i5 2400, upgraded to 16 GB of RAM, with a Nvidia Quadro k600 for a server. Sips power, you can actually game on it, and does all of my server hosting and streaming needs! And it was 50 bucks.
I bought another one for my uncle, threw in an 2 GB Radeon r7 250 instead of the Nvidia Quadro, and he uses it for his old games after I installed Windows 10 32 bit on it, It never gives him any problems, and he's happy with it for years!
Serial port still surprisingly useful in the corporate IT world, lots of stuff even fairly recent still strongarms you into using an RS-232 to RJ-45 cable to get access to it's CLI.
I only see RS-232 ports for use of industrial machines. USB type-A, mini-B, and type-C aren't that robust for some industrial applications.
As much frankencomputering as you do, one would think you'd have one of those nifty 24 pin PSU jumpers that's wired to a lightup switch. This allows you to actually turn the jumpering on/off without touching a precariously placed "supplemental power PSU".
These were the exact computers at my highschool. 2010-14. Every single PC in the building was one of these bad boys. They can run Halo CE like a champ
I was using a setup like this for a while. It was a Lenovo M91p with an i5-2400, 16GB of DDR3, and a PNY 1030 from my local Best Buy. Funny enough, I used it exclusively to play GTA V
Wow, I've been eyeballing this exact system on freegeek for the past couple of weeks. Really surprised to see you make a video on it.
Dude... the Beverly Hills Cop montage music during the upgrade was awesome!
I have a secondary PC like this, bought a Lenovo E73 for 30 bucks, added a i5 4570, 16G of DDR3, a 1030 and a small SSD, not a gaming beast by all means, but it does not struggle when doing most of the things i throw at it. Neat little box to browse web, stream music and watch x265 family souvenirs.
That wasn't a bad little system! I loved the overkill upgrades at the end, but personally, I'd have stuck with the GT 1030, upped the RAM to 16GB, swapped out the HDD for an SSD (and possibly added more storage if I could have fitted it in), and then gone with whatever CPU that was able to stay within the power requirements of the OEM PSU.
Speaking of, the OEM PSU wasn't too bad, it at least had an 80+ Bronze sticker on it! Most cheapo OEM PSU's for an office PC won't have an 80+ rating at all.
🗣️WHAT TF WAS THAT LAST UPGRADE🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥😤😤😤🤯🤯🤯
This video is awesome! Can't believe you took a lot of effort on attempting to upgrade a decade old PC to modern standards!!
I've been here since 20k subs.. Damn Dawid.. Crushing it. Half a mill in no time
reminds me of the first PC that was entirely mine. An Optiplex 745 with a decent nvidia card that a friend "borrowed" from a cupboard at his IT job. The little graphics card put out SOOO much heat that I had to keep the sidepanel off the case and the HDD sat outside and behind the case to keep the drive from overheating. LOL
i can say the mainboard form factor is of the flex-atx standard. so, not a custom form factor, just a form factor that has died quite a while ago.
11:40... the bear slippers are pretty adorable.
This is amazing. What about a Dell 710R server build?
I recycle these older machines into print servers, media servers and firewalls. Just look out for low powered CPU and onboard video. Fun turning them into gaming machines though - you don't need to spend $$$$$ unless you want to play games at the ultra maximum settings and are prepared to lose $$$$ when the next generation of components come out.
I used to be able to pick computers out of our local recycle place - not supposed to take things but i would 'exchange' my junk for theirs.. last time I went I was caught and it didn't go well. Most of the items I have taken have worked - its a shame they let it go to waste... I have to figure out what times someone isn't there :)
No cap this is the same computers at my school just with a newer cpu
I love serial ports. I don't see that odd. It's useful to control cisco routers and other. That's good that you buy used computer at thrift store and restore them. Better then ending up at landfill. I have a emachine with a dual core amd sempron i added a dual intel and more ram now it protect my whole network. Converted to firewall using pfsense. Wow impress i didn't rebooted for 2 years. And had it for 5 years. It's doing great. :) Old computer can be repurpose.
Loved the 80's montage music!! Great video my friend.
8:30 is why I love this guy, I do this a lot also and have been building a very long time.
I think the GT 1030 is about to take the 750TI's spot as a budget legend. I really want a GT 1030 just to abuse it.
Awesome build to see that CPU + GPU pairing was insane 0% bottleneck for a full use of components 👏
The motherboard is some kind of extended microatx, the width of atx, and the height of microatx. I used to have the same machine and I transplanted the motherboard to an atx case without any problems. :)
You can still upgrade the board here because it does support MITX and Micro ATX boards.
Holy jesus. I bought 21 (yes 21) HP Pro 3300 SFF computers with an i3 2130+4GB RAM for £70 (around $92) last year.
Not each, £70 for all 21 of them. No hard drives mind you but at that price I couldn't refuse!
In the end the cute little office box looked like the Borg got their hands on it lol.
9:00 indeed was very cute, PERFECTLY matched, cutest hardware couple in existence.
I love freegeek, there are decent used gaming PCs there, and everyone there is so nice
Not gonna lie, I was definitely groovin with that montage, awwwwwe yeeeeaaaaah 😎
Simply bizarre the way you rigged that up in the end. May god have mercy on your soul.
Congratulations Dawid, you are to PC gaming youtube what Hoovie is to cars!
I have an HP 8200SFF with a quad core i5-2400 and upgraded it with 16GB of ram, 256Gb SSD and a Yeston RX 550 4Gb graphic card, and it runs perfectily lightweight games. My kid loves it.
This 100% the most common office PC that exists. I've seen 100's of these bad boys.
There brilliant those little Acer’s as you can recase them into a descent case for a gaming pc flip 👌🏼
I only recently moved on from a Dell 7010 SFF (i5-3470) with a GT 1030 in it. Not amazing by any means but played everything I wanted to play and made for a great home computer. Now it's our shipping computer at work. (GT 1030 removed, of course!)
Replacing the HDD with an SSD was such a massive upgrade I lost all interest in replacing it for years.
I volunteer at FreeGeek Chicago and I was wondering if you did go to the FreeGeek in Canada.
Keep up the good work, Dawid!
the way he says "gt 1030" gives me life, I love it.
The gt 1030 choking had me worried about the building you were in. Than I remembered it was a gt 1030.
Hey Dawid, massive fan here! Just thought when I saw this, These Acer systems support MINI-ITX motherboards iirc, assuming there's a better power supply on the market that fit in the system (ie a server psu perhaps?) then maybe this would be a great candidate for a mini sleeper PC.
Keep up the good work, and stay safe 😁
My Haswell era Dell Inspiron Small Desktop had that same limitation . . low profile, and right up against the edge of the case. BUT... that side of the case had vent-holes right where the GPU's fan was, so it did the job quite well.
The card I used was a 55W Radeon R7 250E.
The Upgrade with the Low-Profile GPU wasn't that bad, also replacing the CPU with a cheaper 2500(k) would be good enough with an silent flat Aircooler on Top.