5.9L Dodge Ram Cummins Teardown PART 2! Oil Everywhere! Except not enough in certain places.
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- If you didn't catch part 1 of this 5.9L Cummins Teardown, check it out here
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I own and run a niche market auto salvage operation near Saint Louis MO called Importapart. Part of our model is selling engine parts from core or bad engines. We part out a couple hundred engines a year and specialize in certain engine types.
In this video, I tear down the rest of the 5.9L Cummins short block from a 2004 Dodge Ram 2500. Down to a bare block. A lot of these parts are usable but unfortunately not everything that's worth money survived the failure event.
If you'd like to buy parts from this engines or others that I have torn down, feel free to email us at Importapartsales@gmail.com
What do you think caused this failure? What other engines would you like to see torn down? Leave a comment below.
Thanks for watching!
-Eric
I think people are mistaking Baldwin Filters for Fram filters. Baldwin has a very good reputation for being a quality filter
Exactly. That is clearly a Baldwin (*red* can of death). That engine should only be fitted with a Fleetguard LF16035. Fleetguard filters are manufactured by Cummins Filtration, a subsidiary of Cummins Engine Company. As far as I am concerned, any filters that are not manufactured by any subsidiary of Cummins are counterfeit.
@@walterk1221 Napa filters and cat filters are fine and I’ve never heard bad abt baldwin
I was thinking the very same thing, fram is the orange death can! Baldwin on the other hand is red and is a decent filter, it's not the best but certainly not the worst.
Correct you are.👍
@@punkhead4312 one fleet I ran with used Baldwin filters on Detroit diesels and we had a 100k oil change interval for the fleet. The filters were better than the AC Delco that Detroit had as factory equipment.
1:15 Even when you think all the fluid has been drained, there's always a small puddle lurking in a nook or cranny of the block, just waiting for you to flip the block over so it can dump all over your shoes.
Inside your shoes, if you're really lucky...
I have no clue how your channel came up on my recommendations but I am glad it did. Keep up the excellent work my friend!
That’s a Baldwin oil filter, they are one of the better oil filters you can buy. The similarity looking Fram filters are the orange cans of death ☠️
Yep...I'd go WIX or Napa Gold (it's a WIX anyways) or a Baldwin over Fram any day of the week.
@@nbrowser I used Fram filters for over 30 year in my Chevy c2500 88 and been using them for way longer then that and never had any problem with them may guest to why the engine had failed is low oil pressure or more likely root cause is lack of maintenance, Just so all you people that didn't know this all filter housing have oil bypass relief valve if the filter became clogged which cause the dirty oil go thru oil galley
If I had to go with Fram, I’d choose their Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. It’s gold in color and claims to be good for 20k.
@@SHSPVR I have cut apart fram filters they are not built nearly as well as other filters and often fall apart
@@brody4886 Tell that to my Truck with over 230,000 miles it laugh at you
I really like this guy's videos. He is very informative without being dry. There is no BS music or drama. It's obvious that he is very knowledgeable. I think I have seen all of his engine teardowns. Great channel.
I'm really starting to look forward to your newest videos of this series. It is so nice to see what makes these engines tick and to see the different failures that they encounter. Keep up the good work. We'll keep the likes coming.
Watching you play the forklift crane game with a diesel engine parts was hilarious! Thanks for the great, informative, engine teardown as usual.
"go to your home"
more Happy Gilmore lines...
It is Adam Sandler what else would you expect?
The forensic mechanic!!! Love watching these videos
Can't wait to see a vid on a rotary!
There's only about a dozen bits on a core of a rotary :) and the bit that will be broken is the rotar tips, 100% guaranteed! 🤣
Have you seen you can get a tiny little see through rotary? I think Warped Perception featured it as part of his see through engine series, cute wee tabletop thing :)
Exactamente! Fram was the filter that caused the cooling jets to plug up. Baldwin, Donaldson and of course Fleetguard are all fine.
He did a mazda RX8 engine!
Discovered this channel recently - SUCH a great series - loved this video, esp the piston squirter testing - fascinating, weirdly theraputic and great presenter - top work!
I used to do a lot of wrenching with my friend at his garage. He had a chain hoist on a steel beam that we'd pull engines and engines still attached to their transmissions sometimes. You could feel the weight, but the pulleys made it pretty easy work. The first time I hoisted a Ford 7.3 diesel out was a completely different story, lol. I could barely do it by myself. My buddy couldn't do it by himself. I was amazed at just how much heavier a diesel engine was.
Loved this teardown!! With the pistons out, looks like 6 Thor Hammers laying there. xD
Shoulda shown a rod size comparison for people who don't realize just how big they are. I remember picking up some reman Bosch370hp injectors from Cummins and the parts guy showed me just one 5.9L con-rod weighed something like 6.5lbs.
All these engine tear down videos and yet to see a 4th gen, 5.7L hemi when their every where! Keep up the content man these are awesome videos 👍
I used to work on Rotary engines so i do vote for that one. There will be all kinds of different looking parts compared to everything else! Plus check out the size of the socket you'll need for the flywheel/counterweight nut!
yeah, an air hammer lol
@@bradhaines3142 Yeah, he chiseled it off.
Cams are much easier to remove and install with the block standing on end. Try it, you'll like it!😎
I still drive daily a 1999 5.9. 700’000 miles. Oil changed ever 5000 John Deere plus 50. Does it have blowby yes. Does not burn oil and still pulls great.
Finally, part 2. Forgive my impatience but you left us on a cliffhanger.
Yeah I was a bit under the weather, makes it hard to film.
@@I_Do_Cars it's all good
Again Eric! Another enjoyable afternoon as I am off on a mini vacation at home!!. Great job as usual! Thanks
Try an 855 Cummins with wet liners........barrel of fun!
Great video, keep these teardowns coming!
I'm loving the trailer ball in the end of your forks. I do this all the time with my "yard forks".
If you ask 10 different mechanics which brand of filters, oil, fuel, hydralic, you will get 10 different answers. Wix is one of the oldest filter manufacturers around and they make many "PRIVATE LABEL FILTERS", Purolator, NAPA, et al. Baldwin Filters are the most common filters used in fleet shops especially for diesel applications. Just a old man with 45 years of heavy duty and industrial experience giving you food for thought.
I just learned the other day, the reason they make the rod bearing ends crooked like that is so they will fit down the bores.
Yep, I was about to say that.
Also theres far less tension placed on the big end bolts during operation
@@nickwhite6717 more of an axial load on the studs than a tension load, I guess? So, shear force instead of pulling force?
Really like watching these tear-downs. Anyone else think Eric resembles Adam Sadler?
Oh snap, I'd love to see the rotary teardown.
Definitely want to see that RX-8 tear down.
The rod caps are on an angle So the crank pin end can be 2-3/4 in diameter, and the connecting rod can still fit through the bore. Also to help with rod to cam clearance.
Empty shelves mean business is good and parts are moving!
Breaking down engines while questioning your life choices. Always enjoyable! Thanks for sharing.
2:56 FRAMs are the orang cans of death, not Baldwins. I like to call them FRAM Bombs. Saved a 351w from a spun rod bearing because it had one on it; my friend had bought a '67 Mustang hotrod and complained to me that it had low oil pressure at idle, that it ticked when cold. I saw the FRAM bomb on it, said 'let's change the oil put a motorcraft filter on it' and bam. Cleared it up. 4psi at idle became 35psi at idle, tick went away.
Never heard bad things about frams before. Used em on all my vehicles since 16 until recently when I bought a new Tacoma and started having a mechanic do maintenance.
I usually buy the filter for the oil I use, IE using royal purple oil filter for the royal purple oil in my truck
As far as the oil filter goes Cummins put out an approved list of oil filters. IIRC some of the filters media would get sucked apart and cause engine damage. I have an early 03 3500 dually with one on these engines and absolutely love it and the truck. Truck and engine have never let me down in the 4 years I have owned it, and the previous owners never had any issues with it either.
The Baldwin filter I never seen a problem with them . I worked at a power plant and for a long time , they used a lot of those filters , no problems that I aware of . I think a long time ago i had heard that wix had problems stopping up the piston cooling jets. i like fleetguard or lubefiner filters
Awesome!! Thank you, I loved seeing that. Now... when you get a chance, I'd love to see a blown Ford/Powerstroke 6.4L since those things are time bombs anyway. Lessee... what else would be cool... maybe some BMW motors? I dunno... so many to choose from! 'Course it depends what you prefer to buy and can sell and make a decent profit.
I don’t think anyone rebuilds 6.4’s because navistar doesn’t supply parts. So they go directly to boat anchor
@@jeffreygoss8109 u can still get parts at dealers for a 6.4 its just a maxxforce 7
I'll have to say you do an excellent job and I absolutely love the way you do the videos can you somehow incorporate like on this one miking the crankshaft after the scoring to see if it is within spec just for people to be informed
Having worked on Cat. Cummins, Mack, Detroit and many others, I can tell you the offset connecting rod caps are normally only when the bore can not accept them. Oilers are super important in diesels, and unless these are super small, it would take alot to plug the oilers. Much larger than the filter would not stop. If this engine lost 5 & 6 it was not necessarily the oilers.
I don't have a major issue with the smell of diesel, drinks a bit, but gear oil smell worse. Great video, thank you.
Super interesting seeing teardown of engines that were designed to last as long as possible
For many years I’ve used Napa gold filters. Recently I was given an 09 crv, not my first choice but it has all the options and it was free, so it has about 110k on it. I switched to Napa synthetic and the Napa platinum. I just believe in my heart Napa (wix) is the best. However I do not believe that fram can destroy an engine. I bet if you always changed your oil at the correct intervals and chose the correct fram and used Walmart super tech oil the engine would be fine. Engines fail. It’s life. I won’t change filters because I like my guys at Napa but I still think fram is fine. Far from the best but they work.
Sitting here thinking to myself, "Is Adam Sandler doing a Cummins teardown video?" on UA-cam. Just moments before dude bust out with a line from Happy Gilmore. I f**king lost it!!!
"Go HOME" I say the same thing LOL "Are you too good for your HOME??!!" - Happy Gilmore
Coolant enters front of block and snakes it’s way through cylinder 1/2/3/4/5/6. Most common engine failure because of how hot coolant temp is by the time it reach back of block isn’t doing much cooling after years and 100s of thousands of miles that high temp takes it toll. That’s why fleece makes a coolant bypass that does wonders.
I added a coolant filter. You take out the rearmost plug from upper part of the head which will allow more coolant flow out of the rear of the head. that plug is behind the heater connector. The return I put in a brass 'tee' for the heater core return flow tube. Now I honestly think this cant be too much of an issue with overheating the oil and destroying the engine unless people dont change oil often enough and tow heavy stuff.
First the Miles Davis comment from Billy Madison, now Happy Gilmore, you have my respect.
Cylinders 5 and 6 get hot due to the placement of the thermostat. I have an aftermarket second thermostat (bypass) that goes into the freeze plug at the back of the block, evens out how heat soaked the rear cylinders get. That probably caused the broken ring. As for the bearing, probably ran low on oil from blow by in cylinder 6 and long oil change intervals. Considering the crank journals and cam looked fairly good I doubt that mechanical oil pump failed. They are super easy to take apart and its the first thing I take out and pull apart when I buy a cummins. If theres gouging in the pump the maintenance was shotty and the engine will likely have gouging and scoring throughout.
I’m gonna go with the engine had very little oil!
This channel quickly has become my favorite automotive channel
Damn that forklift sounds healthy😎
I have a quick release valve in place of the pan bolt. Pull the lever away from the engine about 1/2", rotate it 90 degrees and all the oil comes out super easy.
Yep, I enjoyed watching both part 1 and 2 of this teardown
I really enjoy teardown videos. Thanks.
I hate being that pedantic guy, but turning down crank journals would mean needing undersize bearings and turning down block mains would mean oversize bearings. That said, top effort man handling that old Cummins.
I find these tear-downs oddly satisfying.
Most of what you'll find is an engine build. Keep things clean, proper torque and tightening patterns, etc, etc, etc.
Here it's zip, zip, zip, and use a forklift, lol. Especially interesting is how things broke internally. Of course, my recommended list has accordingly gone screwy, but that's nothing new... 😁
That's a Baldwin filter,
It's the same one caterpillar paints yellow and sells for $30.
Probably not the issue.
Bet you won't get one in with a rear head coolant bypass and a cooked 6-5 rear cylinder, though.
Overheated ones usually take 6 out.
If ya didn't bleed or have to drill at least 1 fingernail, it don't count. Gotta do another 5.9 Cummins. xD
Engine shows why it's important to change exhaust manifold to the 2nd gen type. 3rd gen manifolds don't let the heat escape on 5 and 6 cylinders.
That's one of Adam Sandler's quote in one of his movies, " Go to your home". Lol!
I can't belive the numbers this channel is getting after such a short time. He's certainly making more off YT than his core business (pun!). Shows you that there is still enormous demand in strange places; you just have to find it. Hopefully he'll get a Ferrari engine someday.
Love the channel, next up, a Caterpillar 3406!🤣
The forklift will be doing more work than him
Always enjoy these videos!
The RX-8 Engine Sure Would Be Interesting 😀😮😀
You mean it “sure is interesting” he did a video on a Mazda RX8 and it was just as good as all his videos
@@kevinheart7091 This Video Was The Video Before He Did The Mazda RX8 Teardown At The End He Asks Who Wants To See a Mazda RX8 Teardown Tell Me In The Comments Below 😀
@@chrischiampo7647 oh my bad man honestly I just got put on to his videos.what did you think of the RX8 video
@@kevinheart7091 It Was Awesome Your Right All His Teardown Videos Are Awesome As A Technician I Really Get to See Some Engines I’ve Never Seen or Had The Chance To Work On Yet So I Learn Some Valuable Information From Them Others I’ve Been In To Before I Also Enjoy 😀👍🏼
@@chrischiampo7647 yea I really like his videos I'm just starting out at 16 as a Small engine technician and I got big dreams from there
Not so ordinary engine stand is approved!
Impressive forklift skills haha
Ha! A comment on one of your other videos said you look like Adam Sandler... and now, "Are you too good for your home?!" lol! Love the videos.
heh I might be interested in that crank. I'm just gonna make a mailbox post out of it though, and I'm not sure shipping that much cast iron all the way to mid TN is worth it for a mailbox post.
Renesis or that M156 AMG V8 if that one hasn't been done yet?
Yes I re-watch your videos! Praying for you and your family new addition
OMFG you quoted Happy Gilmore and now I see your resemblance... LOLLLLLL
Fram filters are like nickelback. There’s nothing wrong with them, people just love to hate on them.
That's not exactly the evidence shown on engine oil filter videos on UA-cam. What I recall is that you have to get the upgraded top-of-the-line frame to get any type of quality filter. Half my life I was buying fram products.
You can always tell when somebody isn't use to working on diesels. They consider the parts of this baby Cummins huge and heavy lol
These videos are quite addictive and someone else fixes my car.
The assembly plant I worked at must have went through pig products by the truckload! Very handy.
They just last forever. My last powerstroke was sold at just under 600k miles, still running. Tyranny needed some synchros done. Wore down from towing all its life but I just double clutched the gears that gave me trouble.
This guys "front desk" must be 1/4 mile long with the amount of stuff he talks about putting there 😂 I really like this channel not bustin ur balls man
Love your show man I like all your content keep up the good work
Nice work. Let's see the rotary when you have time.
Baldwin is a quality filter but still recommend fleet guard for Cummins typically what happens is cylinder five and six get hotter because the distance from the thermostat and the coolant is hot by the time it flows past cylinder five and six fleece makes a bypass kit that directs coolant to the rear of the engine first with its own thermostat to aid with the issue
9:36 That is how you break a timing gear case and not know it until it is way too late.
Great Channel !
I watch all the vids !
The cam gear always comes out as one piece with the cam in the Cummins. When you buy them new from Cummins the gear comes with it to. It’s basically junk/trash if that gear is ever missing.
Good checked swing on that "wtf".
Why do I find this relaxing 😌 ?
Anyone else ?
We are engine freaks and the presentation is first class!
@@hanshogqvist7927 back in the 70-80s this was every weekend I was standing around watching and learning .
Those days are gone .
I still own a 79 c10 always working on it .
RELAXING
The 5.9 engine is also used in international farm trucks in the 200 hp range.
A rotary tear-down sounds great, especially a Renesas. It's basically the opposite of a diesel in every way: terrible torque, lightweight, high-revving, unreliable, horrible thermal efficiency... I'm sure the apex seals are shot.
“Why didn’t you go home?! That’s your home! Are you too good for your home?!”
Every mechanic doing an oil change ever. Heh.
It helps that he kinda looks like Adam Sandler.
@@TestECull facts lmao
He said it!! I've been waiting for him to say that for so long.
Hi, excellent channel. I’d really like to see a Toyota 5 vz-fe tear down . They are renowned for a long life so it would be interesting to try and find out why.
I know 5.9s real good, there only 2 scenarios I can think of, that would cause that kind of damage. 1) ran hot low on oil. 2)hot rodding, or rolling coal. That engine regularly goes 1 million plus miles if treated right.
Common-rail fuel injected engines where notorious for having inadequate fuel filtration. They only had a 7 micron filtration system and really needed a 2 micron system.
Just think what almost 30,000 psi fuel pressure can do to an injector with particulates.
This along with excessive idling with high fuel pressure can wash the oil from the cylinder walls.
Also notice the last cam bearing is sad too, rear of engine had less oil pressure.
Cummins also makes a marine version of that engine. My boat has a 1995 Cummins 6BT5.9-M that's rated for 210 hp.
So you DO use ‘engine stands’....😊
Do those blocks have replaceable cylinder liners? Do you rebuild engines, or just sell parts to shops that specialize in rebuilding engines? Both are good deeds to keep older vehicles on the road…
I believe any filter brand works low quality or high quality but low quality filters you have to do timley oil changes or if left to long the low quality filters start to disintegrate and cause problems
Yes - Please do a tear down of the Renesis Rotary RX8 engine.
Keep up the work cuh
That’s a Baldwin filter not a fram lol that’s a good filter. I’ve ran Baldwin on all my trucks never an issue
The orange can of death, lmfao! Never heard that one before, but never, ever, put a Fram oil filter on...anything. Not even your lawn mower. Ever heard of engine murder by oil filter? Ya have now!
If I'm not mistaken that engine uses cylinder sleeves, so the block is useable after replacing cyl. #6 sleeve which are available from numerous sources .
No sleeves in a 5.9 or 6.7 Cummins, been through 4 over the years.
I use Wix filters at the suggestion of my tech friend who runs a garage
4:04 love the reference to Rich’s truck!
Or generators...or trains. YES I said. TRAINS.. I know of a little train engine that has two of those diesels. One on each side of the cab. instead of a bell housing plate. There is an alternator that bolts right to the crankshaft. The AC power is then used to drive the electrical system that powers a DC traction motor.
Please, please take a picture. This is pretty fascinating to me!
@@I_Do_Cars Okay I will see if I can get one with the hood doors open on the little dude.
have seen those 5.9 L inside many school bus 1995-97 in my old province , total nightware main issues , the chain drive loosens and damages the chain case
Rotary and a few SOHC/DOHC ford motors would be pretty nice to see.
Diesels are big cash bro ,pulled 1000s apart back at International, they work hard and are very strongly built
D/C. Try an Aston Martin Vantage V8 ? Would like to see a disassembled used engine and where they might've failed ! V