@@wilburfinnigan2142 I remember something similar. But I recently also found footage from sowjet onboard camera capturing one being shot down over Berlin. It was wingman while the single Horten chased the other sowjet.
This thing looks futuristic even now. Imagine being in WWII and seeing this thing flying around - the psychological effect of how futuristic it was would be significant.
@@savvasgamingchannel5062That is most likely because it took the allies that long to reverse engineer this master piece and figure out how the Germans made such an advanced aircraft .
This is how videos should be made in 2024: AMAZING modeling, great sound, multiple languages, subtitles, short and sweet; all the info you need and nothing you don't. GREAT WORK! Happy to subscribe!
@@Gravity_studiossbecause they give the impression that it was a great plane just waiting to happen when it was a failure that crashed - no one did flying wings after the war but Northrop (and they didn’t get very far) for a reason. The StG-44 inspired a generation of rifles. The Ho229 was left in the garbage where it belonged.
Still gives the absolutely false impression that it was unprecedented or amazing. It was unusual, to be sure, but flying wings had been around since the days of gliders and, like the Ho-229, had control problems and poor safety records.
@@Justanotherconsumer It was the craziest jet fighter of it's time, still is. It smoked all comers. The pilot wore a pressurized space suit, with a solid glass helmet. The first plane and it's pilot were killed when one of the engines quit on landing. By then the war was over, it never saw action. You clearly know nothing about this plane. A jet fighter is clearly different from a glider concept.
Die Brüder Horten hatten schon einige Nurflügler gebaut und hatten recht viel Erfahrung im Bau und Betrieb von Nurflügel-Flugzeugen. Diese Erfahrungen machten die Flugzeuge eigentlich gut beherrschbar. Die Maschine ist laut den überlieferten Beurteilungen der Testpiloten als nicht schwieriger zu fliegen als die ME262 und deutlich einfacher als die He162. Was aber bedacht werden muss: Wie lässt sich ein derart integriertes Triebwerk auf einem Flugplatz kurz hinter der Front austauschen? Dies ging bei der ME262 und der HE162 sicherlich deutlich leichter. Auf Grund der mangelnden Erfahrung und Ausrüstung der Triebwerksmechaniker auf den Feldflugplätzen wurden die Strahltriebwerke ja nie gewartet sondern ausgetauscht und ins Werk zur Überholung geschickt. Auch waren die Stealtheigenschaften nicht wirklich stark ausgeprägt. Hatte man doch davon noch keine Ahnung. Aber im Vergleich zu einer ME262 oder einer P47 hatte die HO229 doch ein deutlich geringeren Radar-Querschnitt. Aber man hätte sie trotzdem orten können. Allerdings nicht auf so große Entfernungen wie andere Flugzeuge dieser Zeit.
Für den stealth- Vergleich ist es erforderlich den mit damaliger Radartechnik zu ermitteln. Selbst wenn die Maschine nur 10 Minuten später erfasst wurde ist das ein signifikanter Vorteil.
This and the Me262 were surely the most beautiful-looking German fighters that emerged from WW2. An excellent video. Many thanks for the time taken to produce it.
Yep. The Arado 234 "Blitz" is a lovely if more conventional design. It is on display at the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum - Steven F Udvar - Hazy Center.
@@wilburfinnigan2142 yea, giving all other world forces a hard time, making them struggle. Insane for such a small country with so few people. Easily the strongest country the world has ever seen. They could have won every war 1 on 1 vs every nation what so ever for its time very easily. Remember, it took ALL world forces TOGETHER for a tiny country.
As someone who loves to learn & read about aircraft I’ve always been fascinated in a sense by the HO 229 & hats of to you this is the easiest to follow & best graphics I’ve seen on the subject, will check out the rest of your channel. Thanks for the effort man
You made one mistake: The video ended! This is the first video really going into my favorite plane that no one ever talks about. Great vid, keep it up!
Thanks for the video David. It's always nice to see in-depth modeling of the different machines you cover. I have noticed a few errors or oversights regarding the drag rudders and spoiler. According to the Royal Aircraft Establishment's report No. F.A. 259/1 the outboard spoilers were part of the drag rudder system, fully deploying before the inboard ones as the pilot pressed one of the rudder pedals independently. To add further info about this, the report also states that both pedals could be pressed silmutaneously to use the drag rudders as spoilers proper and increase longitudinal stability. As for armament "Monogram Close-Up n°12" states that there were two planned fighter loads, either 2xMK103 with 140 rds. per gun or 4xMK108 with 90 rds. per gun and a short barrel, although the book "Spirit of Thunringia" states the same MK108 load and 170 rds. per gun for the MK103. The instrument panel could have used a bit more details since there are quite a lot of period and recent photos showing it in several books. For example, the radio indicator at 11:15 was in fact an AFN2 blind landing instrument which also doubled as a radio navigation instrument but the one depicted in the video lacks its altitude gauge, and the tachometers lack the dual RPM scale. Some of the updated textures could be used for future videos on other german aircrafts.
Those missing instruments might have been taken by Allied souvenir hunters. Also, by that late stage in the war, aircraft parts were often pirated off of crashed aircraft. I believe the Horten 9 nose gear ,once belonged to a bomber.
It should be noted that Air Marshall Herman Göring once asked the best aircraft producers in the Reich for their opinions on the "Amerika Bomber" (though German, it's self explanatory ). The Horton brothers said "we have just the plane at home". Went to the drawing board, found this very plane and upscaled it. Changed a few things. In his deadbed the last Horton brother told a writer of their biography the story.
I would add the Boeing B29. Worlds first Nuclear Bomber. It was a larger project and cost more than the Manhattan Project. It was extremely advanced and very complicated for its day
Check out the contemporary XP-79. Equally disastrous failure, but even more exotic for the day with experimental prone pilot and magnesium construction.
Most excellent graphics and description of the Horten I have seen. Well done and thank you. I was a USN ejection seat mechanic so I wonder how it worked. Not many planes had them in WW2. And some should have, like the P-38 and P-61.
The question is how higher speed gave the Horten an advantage against allied bombers. A quicker engagement reduced the Horten's time under fire, but it also reduced the pilot's time to target a bomber. Time for new tactics. Beautiful video. Thank you.
That's why it carried a pair of 30mm autocannons: it could dump a lot of heavy, destructive rounds in just a burst of fire. The Me262 carried four MK108s, so I would imagine they would have up-armed the Go229 to at least four had it actually seen combat.
If we look at the history of any/most successful WW2 (or WW1 for that matter) we will see that it is a process of continuous improvement that finally produces a truly effective and successful war machine. I expect the Horten would have followed a similar path. The first few generations would not have been that great and effective. And at the same time the enemy would have developed their machinery to counter the new threat or come up with new strategies to nullify the assumed advantages. So all these words in this and similar videos about how something could have affected or changed the course of a war are a bit of a hype.
From reading what you write. Anybody would think that this thing actually flew. It never got past the mock up stage, and would have been unflyable anyway.
A PC game called Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe had an expansion pack which included a "Gotha Go-229" and I fell in love with it then. The only downside to this design is no rudder for yaw.
My favourite airplane design. While it wasn't that effective, it looked so cool, maybe it was designed with the old engineering methods, but still looks so futuristic.
The only reason it wasn’t effective is because the axis forces were outnumbered more than 20 to 1 combined with the fact that Germany couldn’t get the resources required.
@@3Kiwiana This aircraft was a pipe dream for the Germans and would have gone nowhere. Like the rest of their "wunderwaffe", It would have changed nothing. There are many reasons aircraft of this design went functionally nowhere for half a century beyond that point.
@@Nyx_2142 never heard of so much tripe, just check project paper lip, the Americans wanted got and used all Germanys technology including the jet fighter, obviously like anything new it got improved on
@@Nyx_2142 The idea was to make the Allied populations weary of the war, offering Germany a (slim) chance for a separate peace with the West. The Germans held no illusions about these weapons allegedly being able to turn the tide from a merely militaristic perspective. Resources were simply too slim to even begin to approach such an endeavour. From German perspective, the entire WWII was never meant to be waged for an extended period of time, as it was obvious that resources wouldn't last long enough. This was also the reason for their hesitation to allow for such a war in general, in contrast to the popularised myth that they allegedly drove for war in the 1930's.
I am an enthusiast of the brilliant minds of World War II. Usually, history is told by the victors, and whether Germany truly lost anything in terms of technology is debatable. What I see is that World War II was a true cradle of German technology for the entire world. Almost everything technological has the mark of the Germans. A people with whom I live and admire, both in their work and in their humble behavior on a daily basis, especially in the X-ray factories, which also have origins in Germany. Today, people rely heavily on videos and do not seek the origin of the information, which is a shame. I am looking for the video of the invisible submarine that began to be built in Germany and, due to the war, had to be finished in Norway. I want to congratulate all of you, as I have been waiting for videos like these for a long time.
非常に詳細な、かつ高品質な解説を有難うございます。ホルテンの解説だけでなく、全翼機の実用化何故が難しいのかまで非常に良く解かりました。 Thank you very much for the very detailed and high quality commentary. Not only did you explain the Horten, but I also understood very well why it was difficult to put a flying wing into practical use.
This is a fucking IA voice !! And a lot of word is not correctly translated. 'Horten' pronunciation is incorrect. Around 13:00 the "bouton d'amorçage" is wrong (correct word for engine starter is 'démarreur') and "tachymetre" pronunciation is "taKymetre" Stop using IA for everything !! Ask to real people for this !!
I have watched many of the numerous videos about this remarkable aircraft and there is no doubt in my mind that this is the best, most detailed and most visually stunning of them all. The integration of the commentary with beautiful computer graphics, 3d visuals of the plane in flight, the explanation of the unusual control surfaces and fascinating exploded views of the craft showing the cleverness, simplicity and resourcefulness of the design all contribute to a perfect viewing experience. Liked and subscribed.
I would love to see something similar but as topic the Heinkel He-162 A2. It´s such a unique and fascinating design that was used in the last weeks of the war! Wolfgang Wollenweber even wrote a book about his experiences with the Volksjäger. I could provide some more info if needed.
An excellent video, and a beautiful aircraft. I have the three D Printer software from a company called Eclipson to make one of these , full RC aircraft. Thankyou once again for a great video.👍🏼🦘🇦🇺
The ho-229 truely is a wonder of technology, its shape is the one that goes best and was also a jet. German engineering really did push itself to its limits!
I have class tomorrow, it's currently 12:17 am but I gotta watch this first before I sleep Edit: it's 4:53 am now, I didn't sleep cuz i have important things that needed to be done. You know.. school stuff and etc.
Outstanding graphics and logical and comprehensible commentary have just got you another subscriber. Looking forward further works. Good stuff ! I've always been an admirer of the 229's design.
@@carknew You're welcome. I'm glad to be of assistance. Have you seen the documentaries I mentioned? I have several times. I'm going to add "Civilisation" to the list as well.
Only in one documentary about Nazi planes was mention the method of making plywood. They were using special foil of glue, which was secret and only one factory was making that. Due to that foil they were able to make very strong wood, basically like a composite. But closer to the end of war that company was bombed so they couldnt make good plywood plane, they break down easily.
Great video! You asked for feedback : I don’t believe the Horton had afterburners. Therefore there should not be any flames coming out of the jets. The burning should be concluded before the turbine wheel.
I love the amount of work you put in, well researched (as far as i fool can tell) interresting topic, great narrator, nice graphics. This is an example of what is good about youtube.
I've seen a lot of videos, but this one in particular is unique not only because of the story of the plane but the fine quality of the creators' graphics!
14:54 loved the video! For future videos though, it would be nice if you could include the length of an average runway or the takeoff distance of a more well known aircraft like the bf109 for example, so we can have something as a reference.
When I was young I would frequently make paper airplanes based on this, though I would ultimately have to add winglets to function as lateral stabilizers.
HELL YEAH DEEP DIVE ON MY FAVE AIRCRAFT! I specifically made a trip to DC just to see this one, she currently rests without her wings (theyre nearby) under the left wing of the Enola Gay!
It wasn't an aircraft. It was just a concept which never flew, and couldn't of anyway. A flying wing is inherently unstable, which is the last thing you need in a fighter bomber. The Me 262 was the future, and actually flew with great success.
And the plywood structure is looking ragged. The glue to make it is not something you can get at the local woodworking supply shop it seems, so Smithsonian is still working/thinking on restoration. Horten was not exactly politically correct for the regime so his brother, a moderate-level manager at the Air Ministry, kept him off in the hinterlands someplace to keep him out of trouble. After the war he pitched up in Argentina and continued development through the 1950s but never got anything into production.
Tiger 1 next maybe ? I don't know why but tiger 1 tank always have special place in my memories ( its my first tier 7 tank that i get in world of tanks blitz back in 2015 and the first time i playing it i managed to win 1 vs 4 and getting my first rasenai hero medal and not to mention back then i used to watch fury movie), even now i still thinking about tiger 1 tank and even planning to buy an rc tiger 1 tank for myself at Christmas
I agree, John Knudsen Northrop was a great aerospace engineer and designer of his time. But the Horten Brothers (particularly Reimar) were even further ahead, with their long series of elegant designs (a total of 71 known airframe designations, according to R.E. Lee), since their teenage years. First Horten true flying wing took flight in 1933, and first Northrop true flying wing in 1940. Reimar had inspiration for pure designs and scientific insight from "the father of modern fluid dynamics", the famous Dr. Ludwig Prandtl of the world leading University of Göttingen. Reimar achieved his PhD in Fluid Dynamics. I can recommemd the book 'Only the Wing: Reimar Horten's Epic Quest to Stabilize and Control the All-Wing Aircraft' (2011) by Russel E. Lee, curator in the Aeronautics Department of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum. Northrop made great aircrafts, but just look at the clean lines of the elegant Horten gliders, e.g. the Ho-IV.
@@norsenomadYeah, Northrop was great, but he certainly did not put a jet engine in a flying wing ahead of Horten. The YB-35s were only flying after the war, though they were really impressive aircraft.
@@romanvarcolac2238 It is fair to count in Northrop's N-1M (neither a jet), predecessor to Y-35 aka N-9M, which flew almost 100 testflights from 1940 to 1943. Later came the Y-35, but it had some directional oscillation (yaw) issues and also serious structural issues, which was never sorted out before the accidents happened. Northrop's Avion Model 1, which flew in 1929, does not count as a true flying wing, as it obviously had a long tail to achieve flight and stability. A pure flying wing is the lowest-drag design configuration, theoretically. Reimar Horten could envision this pure design, and it became his goal already in his teens (note the book title I mentioned). He understood and realized early the required fluid dynamics science that Prandtl had recently discovered and published, as great steps forward for modern aerodynamics.
@@Ausf.D.A.K. who’s joking? Where was their cavity magnetron? Their proximity fuses? Their field kitchen that didn’t run on wood? Risers for paratroopers? Spare parts? Logistics in general? All or nothing battle ship armor designs? Carrier designs that could launch more than 18 aircraft an hour? Well designed tank transmission? Antibiotics?
@@jb76489 I think you're intentionally omitting the colossal advantage in resources, manpower, logistics and intelligence that the Allies had over the Axis. Italy was basically a liability and Japan was also incapable of fighting a war of attrition.
@@Ausf.D.A.K. and? So? Therefore? I didn’t say there wasn’t an obvious explanation as to why the Germans were behind. But yes, you can definitely add bad decision making skills and shitty ally to the list of German failings
Because I know someone is gonna try to bring it up, I am going to nip this conspiracy in the bud; no, Jack Northrop was not inspired by the 229 to make his flying wings. *Because the timelines don't add up.* He had been drawing paper designs for flying wings as early as 1929, he never crossed paths with the Horton brothers, and his famous XB-35 got the approval stamp from the government in 1940, something which would be difficult to get inspiration from another aircraft that wasn't discovered by Americans until 1945.
They crossed paths, one of the brothers did go to the USA after WW2 wanting to work for Northrop, but he didnt get hired so he migrated to Argentina to continue to build flying wings by its own
@@wolf310ii I too heard about this story, however all my attempts to confirm it so far have come up inconclusive. Diving down rabbit holes I found the primary source of the story to be Reimar Horton himself -- 40 years after the fact, around the same time he started claiming that he would've used charcoal to make the Ho229 stealth. From what I managed to track down of the brothers' personal exodus after the war, Walter stayed in Germany for the rest of his life, and Reimar tried and failed to get into the UK and then China before finally making it to Argentina; I cannot find any records of him trying to get into the USA that predate the 50's, after he'd spent a few years already in Argentina. So all I can say is that while there's a small chance the story could be true, I have a very hard time believing it because again the timelines don't add up.
But then there was operation paperclip. So after operation paperclip I think most tech that popped up was actually german/nazi based. When I see the flying bomber all I see is the Horton in there. The designs from Northrop were very different and made a sudden change with the B2. But it is interesting that they seem to have tackled certain problems the Horton would have over the B2 Spirit. Less body behind jet engines. Stronger angles on the back for better control of flight probably. More lift with more wing. Then the B-21 Raider clearly an upgrade over it again. But ye the Horton it's shape was very far ahead of time. Even when the B-2 and B-21 are more angular. The similair shape is there.
Amazingly, we had a German fellow came to see us ±20 years ago. He signed a lease for space he said looked "just like the factory where the Horten bros built the 229s" He showed me German books and yes, our space did seem similar. He intended to reconstruct a full sized replica working Horten! There were some fascinating things he told us about his connection to Werner von Braun and Hanna Reitsch, which we could not disprove. But when rent was not paid for months, 229s were electricity was tapped unpaid and the "Deutschland über alles" signs were posted. we'd had enough, and sadly- had to pull the plug on the lease AND the project. He made some fantastic claims about Nazi skills, Germany and "plans" that even today were scary to us.
The problem with flying wings is they need constant micro adjusting and it hans't been until the last few decades that the computing power was small enough to put it intoo a bomber let alone a fighter. The reason you see them in jet drones noow for fighters is no need for pilots.
@@matthewhenley783 yes even carpenters can build the airframe which was the case in Germany ✅ A German soldier was asked (just after D-day) when did he know that the war was lost, he said When he saw a US soldier changed a punched wheel then throw it away, because if they can afford to throw away a perfectly good wheel they must have a lot of supplies. He also said, in Germany if you did that you would be in a lot of trouble
This is easily one of the most facinating and beautiful planes ever built.
Did you know these things were made by obese fascists sucking hitlers toes while doing a Roman salute
Agreed. I can never get enough of looking at it.
Only one flew and it crashed and killed the pilot.
@@wilburfinnigan2142 I remember something similar. But I recently also found footage from sowjet onboard camera capturing one being shot down over Berlin. It was wingman while the single Horten chased the other sowjet.
@@achdumeinegueteit’s fake footage. It’s from a video game with a filter over it making it seem like it was caught on a camera.
This thing looks futuristic even now. Imagine being in WWII and seeing this thing flying around - the psychological effect of how futuristic it was would be significant.
Especially at that speed...
It was kept a secret for many years after the war.
@@savvasgamingchannel5062That is most likely because it took the allies that long to reverse engineer this master piece and figure out how the Germans made such an advanced aircraft .
A widzieliście US?
We are still seeing this today calling them UFOs
I’m not sure if I am more impressed by the aircraft or the superb quality of the graphics and research that went into making this video .
the b2 spirit before the b2 spirit
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This is how videos should be made in 2024:
AMAZING modeling, great sound, multiple languages, subtitles, short and sweet; all the info you need and nothing you don't.
GREAT WORK!
Happy to subscribe!
BUT they have to be on true facts not just speculation and "estimates "!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 How do you make a video about an obscure, unfinished prototype aircraft without speculations and estimates?
"Best I can do is stolen art assets and an AI narrator" -Average UA-cam content creator
@@Gravity_studiossbecause they give the impression that it was a great plane just waiting to happen when it was a failure that crashed - no one did flying wings after the war but Northrop (and they didn’t get very far) for a reason.
The StG-44 inspired a generation of rifles. The Ho229 was left in the garbage where it belonged.
Por eso les hicieron la guerra, porque tenían un gran desarrollo que ni los ingleses y gringos podían competir con ellos.
The best HO 229 documentary i've seen yet.
Still gives the absolutely false impression that it was unprecedented or amazing.
It was unusual, to be sure, but flying wings had been around since the days of gliders and, like the Ho-229, had control problems and poor safety records.
@@Justanotherconsumer It was the craziest jet fighter of it's time, still is. It smoked all comers. The pilot wore a pressurized space suit, with a solid glass helmet. The first plane and it's pilot were killed when one of the engines quit on landing. By then the war was over, it never saw action. You clearly know nothing about this plane. A jet fighter is clearly different from a glider concept.
@@Justanotherconsumer the only accident it had was due to an engine failure, tf are you talking about?
HORTEN = TRASH
Agree, very entertaining.
Die Brüder Horten hatten schon einige Nurflügler gebaut und hatten recht viel Erfahrung im Bau und Betrieb von Nurflügel-Flugzeugen. Diese Erfahrungen machten die Flugzeuge eigentlich gut beherrschbar. Die Maschine ist laut den überlieferten Beurteilungen der Testpiloten als nicht schwieriger zu fliegen als die ME262 und deutlich einfacher als die He162.
Was aber bedacht werden muss: Wie lässt sich ein derart integriertes Triebwerk auf einem Flugplatz kurz hinter der Front austauschen? Dies ging bei der ME262 und der HE162 sicherlich deutlich leichter. Auf Grund der mangelnden Erfahrung und Ausrüstung der Triebwerksmechaniker auf den Feldflugplätzen wurden die Strahltriebwerke ja nie gewartet sondern ausgetauscht und ins Werk zur Überholung geschickt.
Auch waren die Stealtheigenschaften nicht wirklich stark ausgeprägt. Hatte man doch davon noch keine Ahnung. Aber im Vergleich zu einer ME262 oder einer P47 hatte die HO229 doch ein deutlich geringeren Radar-Querschnitt. Aber man hätte sie trotzdem orten können. Allerdings nicht auf so große Entfernungen wie andere Flugzeuge dieser Zeit.
Für den stealth- Vergleich ist es erforderlich den mit damaliger Radartechnik zu ermitteln. Selbst wenn die Maschine nur 10 Minuten später erfasst wurde ist das ein signifikanter Vorteil.
One of the most beautiful and futuristic plane of WW2
For real
It STILL looks futuristic. Funny how that works.
expensive prototype xd
And would have been hard to pick out on the radar of the day.
@@meltdown6165before anyone says this, Lockheed tested the Horton and was hard to pick up on radar, but NOT 100% stealth.
Your 3D models are getting even better! We may have another mustard on our hands.
No joke, I got a video from Mustard in my recommended after watching this.
PUT ON YOUR MASKS!
@@reckitboo8792 same, 2 of them
You should definitely check out Animagraffs
A comparison to Mustard videos - that’s high marks!
For me this is the most Beautiful Aircraft ever built.
This and the Me262 were surely the most beautiful-looking German fighters that emerged from WW2.
An excellent video. Many thanks for the time taken to produce it.
BUT..... the Germans still lost the war !!!!!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 So what. The planes were still absolutely awesome!
Arado 234 lovely
Yep. The Arado 234 "Blitz" is a lovely if more conventional design. It is on display at the Smithsonian Institution's National Air and Space Museum - Steven F Udvar - Hazy Center.
@@wilburfinnigan2142 yea, giving all other world forces a hard time, making them struggle. Insane for such a small country with so few people.
Easily the strongest country the world has ever seen. They could have won every war 1 on 1 vs every nation what so ever for its time very easily.
Remember, it took ALL world forces TOGETHER for a tiny country.
I cannot believe that I am able to get access to this kind of content for free... thank you for your hard work!!
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it is not free. You pay with view time and watching ads.
@@dom3827okay
The Horten was ahead of its time; and a beautiful aircraft.
Bro i wish every engineering themed video on UA-cam would be as detailed and well made as your Videos.
高品質のCGと詳細な解説を日本語で提供して下さって感謝しながらら毎回視聴しています。あなたはとても素晴らしいです。これからもあなたの高い技術で私たちを楽しませて頂けることを心から願っています。いつもありがとうございます。またね。
SALUDOS AL GRAN PUEBLO DEL JAPON. UDS. TAMBIEN TIENEN COSAS QUE CONTAR COMO ESTAS.
ホルテン 運用が複雑すぎる。
@@はもき But yet somehow they flew them. High skill perhaps?
As someone who loves to learn & read about aircraft I’ve always been fascinated in a sense by the HO 229 & hats of to you this is the easiest to follow & best graphics I’ve seen on the subject, will check out the rest of your channel.
Thanks for the effort man
You made one mistake: The video ended! This is the first video really going into my favorite plane that no one ever talks about. Great vid, keep it up!
This is an incredible 3D modelling and rendering. You must have spent hundreds of hours, this is just so amazing!
Rendering was done in Unreal Engine so it is practically a few mins to render.
Brain warping effort indeed!
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Deutsche Wertarbeit . und die UFO halben auch die deutsche erfunden .
Wow. What a brilliant work of art your video!!! Thank you very much! It really shows how far Germany`s air force development really was.
Thanks for the video David. It's always nice to see in-depth modeling of the different machines you cover. I have noticed a few errors or oversights regarding the drag rudders and spoiler. According to the Royal Aircraft Establishment's report No. F.A. 259/1 the outboard spoilers were part of the drag rudder system, fully deploying before the inboard ones as the pilot pressed one of the rudder pedals independently. To add further info about this, the report also states that both pedals could be pressed silmutaneously to use the drag rudders as spoilers proper and increase longitudinal stability.
As for armament "Monogram Close-Up n°12" states that there were two planned fighter loads, either 2xMK103 with 140 rds. per gun or 4xMK108 with 90 rds. per gun and a short barrel, although the book "Spirit of Thunringia" states the same MK108 load and 170 rds. per gun for the MK103.
The instrument panel could have used a bit more details since there are quite a lot of period and recent photos showing it in several books. For example, the radio indicator at 11:15 was in fact an AFN2 blind landing instrument which also doubled as a radio navigation instrument but the one depicted in the video lacks its altitude gauge, and the tachometers lack the dual RPM scale. Some of the updated textures could be used for future videos on other german aircrafts.
Quite the in depth and thought out comment! Im sure that the team will appreciate your constructive criticism and I hope you have a fantastic day!
Thanks a lot` before Paris ending flight of me Goｰ229 1970
Those missing instruments might have been taken by Allied souvenir hunters. Also, by that late stage in the war, aircraft parts were often pirated off of crashed aircraft. I believe the Horten 9 nose gear ,once belonged to a bomber.
It should be noted that Air Marshall Herman Göring once asked the best aircraft producers in the Reich for their opinions on the "Amerika Bomber" (though German, it's self explanatory ). The Horton brothers said "we have just the plane at home".
Went to the drawing board, found this very plane and upscaled it. Changed a few things.
In his deadbed the last Horton brother told a writer of their biography the story.
Man the level of details and quality of these videos is top notch. Hadn’t heard of this plane before.
Your 3D modeling of WW2 machines is amazing
The most fascinating aircraft of WW2, hands down.
Agree!
Me 163, Me 262 and Ho 229 are the peakest planes
I would add the Boeing B29. Worlds first Nuclear Bomber. It was a larger project and cost more than the Manhattan Project. It was extremely advanced and very complicated for its day
Check out the contemporary XP-79. Equally disastrous failure, but even more exotic for the day with experimental prone pilot and magnesium construction.
@@22airjordan1 And it actually flew, and did stuff lol... this thing was a pipe dream.
Most excellent graphics and description of the Horten I have seen. Well done and thank you. I was a USN ejection seat mechanic so I wonder how it worked. Not many planes had them in WW2. And some should have, like the P-38 and P-61.
The question is how higher speed gave the Horten an advantage against allied bombers. A quicker engagement reduced the Horten's time under fire, but it also reduced the pilot's time to target a bomber. Time for new tactics. Beautiful video. Thank you.
Considering the numerical superiority the horten would have gone up against, speed would definitely have been an advantage.
That's why it carried a pair of 30mm autocannons: it could dump a lot of heavy, destructive rounds in just a burst of fire. The Me262 carried four MK108s, so I would imagine they would have up-armed the Go229 to at least four had it actually seen combat.
If we look at the history of any/most successful WW2 (or WW1 for that matter) we will see that it is a process of continuous improvement that finally produces a truly effective and successful war machine. I expect the Horten would have followed a similar path. The first few generations would not have been that great and effective. And at the same time the enemy would have developed their machinery to counter the new threat or come up with new strategies to nullify the assumed advantages.
So all these words in this and similar videos about how something could have affected or changed the course of a war are a bit of a hype.
From reading what you write. Anybody would think that this thing actually flew. It never got past the mock up stage, and would have been unflyable anyway.
It did fly several times@@sandgrownun66
wow the quality of this video is incredible!
A PC game called Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe had an expansion pack which included a "Gotha Go-229" and I fell in love with it then.
The only downside to this design is no rudder for yaw.
My favourite airplane design. While it wasn't that effective, it looked so cool, maybe it was designed with the old engineering methods, but still looks so futuristic.
The only reason it wasn’t effective is because the axis forces were outnumbered more than 20 to 1 combined with the fact that Germany couldn’t get the resources required.
@@3Kiwiana This aircraft was a pipe dream for the Germans and would have gone nowhere. Like the rest of their "wunderwaffe", It would have changed nothing. There are many reasons aircraft of this design went functionally nowhere for half a century beyond that point.
@@Nyx_2142 never heard of so much tripe, just check project paper lip, the Americans wanted got and used all Germanys technology including the jet fighter, obviously like anything new it got improved on
@@Nyx_2142 The idea was to make the Allied populations weary of the war, offering Germany a (slim) chance for a separate peace with the West. The Germans held no illusions about these weapons allegedly being able to turn the tide from a merely militaristic perspective. Resources were simply too slim to even begin to approach such an endeavour. From German perspective, the entire WWII was never meant to be waged for an extended period of time, as it was obvious that resources wouldn't last long enough. This was also the reason for their hesitation to allow for such a war in general, in contrast to the popularised myth that they allegedly drove for war in the 1930's.
@@3Kiwiana>Tripe
>Responds with even more tripe
You're an absolute clown
Thank you, David. Passionate work as always
I am an enthusiast of the brilliant minds of World War II. Usually, history is told by the victors, and whether Germany truly lost anything in terms of technology is debatable. What I see is that World War II was a true cradle of German technology for the entire world. Almost everything technological has the mark of the Germans. A people with whom I live and admire, both in their work and in their humble behavior on a daily basis, especially in the X-ray factories, which also have origins in Germany. Today, people rely heavily on videos and do not seek the origin of the information, which is a shame. I am looking for the video of the invisible submarine that began to be built in Germany and, due to the war, had to be finished in Norway. I want to congratulate all of you, as I have been waiting for videos like these for a long time.
非常に詳細な、かつ高品質な解説を有難うございます。ホルテンの解説だけでなく、全翼機の実用化何故が難しいのかまで非常に良く解かりました。
Thank you very much for the very detailed and high quality commentary. Not only did you explain the Horten, but I also understood very well why it was difficult to put a flying wing into practical use.
Having it in french is a nice touch, and your french is perfect ! Thank you for those amazing video.
your spanish language is quite good too ! regards from Mallorca, Spain
This is a fucking IA voice !! And a lot of word is not correctly translated. 'Horten' pronunciation is incorrect. Around 13:00 the "bouton d'amorçage" is wrong (correct word for engine starter is 'démarreur') and "tachymetre" pronunciation is "taKymetre"
Stop using IA for everything !! Ask to real people for this !!
A german audiotrack would be nice for a german plane.
A design and technology far ahead of its time, truly a masterpiece
I have watched many of the numerous videos about this remarkable aircraft and there is no doubt in my mind that this is the best, most detailed and most visually stunning of them all. The integration of the commentary with beautiful computer graphics, 3d visuals of the plane in flight, the explanation of the unusual control surfaces and fascinating exploded views of the craft showing the cleverness, simplicity and resourcefulness of the design all contribute to a perfect viewing experience.
Liked and subscribed.
I would love to see something similar but as topic the Heinkel He-162 A2. It´s such a unique and fascinating design that was used in the last weeks of the war! Wolfgang Wollenweber even wrote a book about his experiences with the Volksjäger. I could provide some more info if needed.
Wow that was an incredible engineering design and you guys covered it in pretty good details too
Incredible detail, rarely we see documentations that are this good! Thank you to everyone involved! Greetings from germany.
すばらしい３Dモデルでの解説動画ですね。 H0-229は大好きな機体なので、大変興味深く参考になりました。
機会があればHe-162 サラマンダーも是非作成して欲しいです。特にV-型テイルウイングや前進翼モデルもプランであったので、ベーシックモデルはそこそこで派生型の説明があれば最高です。
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An excellent video, and a beautiful aircraft. I have the three D Printer software from a company called Eclipson to make one of these , full RC aircraft. Thankyou once again for a great video.👍🏼🦘🇦🇺
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My brother literally did this to me 2 days ago!
You sleep in the same bed a your mom?
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The ho-229 truely is a wonder of technology, its shape is the one that goes best and was also a jet. German engineering really did push itself to its limits!
Extremely high quality video, in depth analysis, of a rare plane that still excites people into the 21st century.
I have class tomorrow, it's currently 12:17 am but I gotta watch this first before I sleep
Edit: it's 4:53 am now, I didn't sleep cuz i have important things that needed to be done. You know.. school stuff and etc.
Why the numbers (12:17) in your comment don't get turned into a link to the time-point?
@@Juan-qv5nc idk man...
@@kentjunellsuspene6906 It seems you have hidden powers.
@@Juan-qv5nc Maybe UA-cam recognizes the trailing am/pm
@@--AnonymousUser-- Nice hypothesis. Let's test it: 12:16 am
Outstanding graphics and logical and comprehensible commentary have just got you another subscriber. Looking forward further works. Good stuff ! I've always been an admirer of the 229's design.
Minor feedback: If you talk about feet or gallons, please mention the meters or liters too :). Makes it easier to follow for broader audiences.
Great way to bring this aircraft to life.
Thank you !
One of the most amazing documentaries I've ever seen
Well, you obviously haven't seen many documentaries then. The Ascent Of Man, The World At War, and Life On Earth would be a good start.
@@sandgrownun66 You sure seem to have astounding social skills
This is not a documentary. You could rather call it a 3D visualization.
@@carknew You're welcome. I'm glad to be of assistance. Have you seen the documentaries I mentioned? I have several times. I'm going to add "Civilisation" to the list as well.
This one not a documentary this is what we call a 3D explanation.
The work that went into this video is absolutely bonkers. And all of that for free without even a sponsor segment?
Good job. Impressive CAD.
Could you do the sturmtiger?
Or just tiger
Chief this is a plane priority channel
@@Fv4k5priority? Yes. Only? Possibly not.
@@Fv4k5they did a sherman and submarine, no reason they cant do another tank
i went and saw this at the air and space museum, it was in 3 pieces but was beautiful to see
Imagine flying sheets of plywood at 600mph.
Only in one documentary about Nazi planes was mention the method of making plywood. They were using special foil of glue, which was secret and only one factory was making that. Due to that foil they were able to make very strong wood, basically like a composite. But closer to the end of war that company was bombed so they couldnt make good plywood plane, they break down easily.
It was stronger than modern plywood. For one thing it wasn't pressboard.
Like the British mosquito? 😏
Impresionante y detallado informe. ¡Felicitaciones!
The engineering capabilities of the Germans is extraordinary.
Absolutely incredible video. Every once in a while UA-cam gets its suggestions right. Liked and subscribed.
Great video! You asked for feedback : I don’t believe the Horton had afterburners. Therefore there should not be any flames coming out of the jets. The burning should be concluded before the turbine wheel.
It did not, the first afterburners did happen during WW2 but the Germans did not use them.
I love the amount of work you put in, well researched (as far as i fool can tell) interresting topic, great narrator, nice graphics.
This is an example of what is good about youtube.
I've seen a lot of videos, but this one in particular is unique not only because of the story of the plane but the fine quality of the creators' graphics!
Love ur content!!!
Amazing Video. Love the 3D Model you guys made!
Beautiful video.
14:54 loved the video! For future videos though, it would be nice if you could include the length of an average runway or the takeoff distance of a more well known aircraft like the bf109 for example, so we can have something as a reference.
Mil gracias bro 1ro por la pista en español, 2do por tomarte el tiempo en hacer esas increibles animaciones valen oro, Sub+Like!c:
Maybe the Do 17/215/217 next? Particularly the nightfighter variants.
this is top tier content
Este breve video es simplemente una joya y quiero felicitarlos por ese esfuerzo cargado de detalle. Gracias
wonderful video, thank you, just lack of explanations regarding the ejection seat and the parachute mechanism
Amazing technology and very talented engineers result in a craft 50 years ahead of its time.
Not ahead, no
@@peterson7082 Yes behind, yes.
@@peterson7082 yes it was ahead
@@kivinrepoio stop watching the history Channel
When I was young I would frequently make paper airplanes based on this, though I would ultimately have to add winglets to function as lateral stabilizers.
Beautiful work brother! Great detail and information. Keep up the good work sir.
So lucky to have visited the Silver Hill facility and photographed this amazing aircraft.
Amazing but that's all. Just a mock-up.
there is a horten in berlin
@@Redgamemaster33Gamer Can it fly. Or did it ever fly in combat?
@@sandgrownun66 it flew two times in ww2.
@@Redgamemaster33Gamer Two short hops. How was that going to turn the tide of WWII?
HELL YEAH DEEP DIVE ON MY FAVE AIRCRAFT!
I specifically made a trip to DC just to see this one, she currently rests without her wings (theyre nearby) under the left wing of the Enola Gay!
Without its wings? Sacrilege!
It wasn't an aircraft. It was just a concept which never flew, and couldn't of anyway. A flying wing is inherently unstable, which is the last thing you need in a fighter bomber. The Me 262 was the future, and actually flew with great success.
@@sandgrownun66 .....you are aware that the second one crashed after a bunch of test flights, right?
And the plywood structure is looking ragged. The glue to make it is not something you can get at the local woodworking supply shop it seems, so Smithsonian is still working/thinking on restoration. Horten was not exactly politically correct for the regime so his brother, a moderate-level manager at the Air Ministry, kept him off in the hinterlands someplace to keep him out of trouble. After the war he pitched up in Argentina and continued development through the 1950s but never got anything into production.
@@nightfeather9409 "Crashed" is the operative word. The US built something similar later, and that crashed too, unaliving five men in the process.
Tiger 1 next maybe ? I don't know why but tiger 1 tank always have special place in my memories ( its my first tier 7 tank that i get in world of tanks blitz back in 2015 and the first time i playing it i managed to win 1 vs 4 and getting my first rasenai hero medal and not to mention back then i used to watch fury movie), even now i still thinking about tiger 1 tank and even planning to buy an rc tiger 1 tank for myself at Christmas
El tige para es el icono de tanques de ww2, cual su vida promedio de Rc del tiger I?
@@VacaConChompait depends on what rc you get the more expensive ones tend to also be more repairable
I'd love to see details around the Tiger 1's machinery and specifics on how its control systems were more intuitive than allied or axis counterparts 👀
Nice work on the modeling! I love how the pilot just gets wedged in between the two engines.. would be nice and warm at altitude.
Crazy ahead of it's time..
That why that V1/V2 scientist ended up at NASA.
the fact a plane from 1945 managed to be stable without a vertical stab is just insane.
No se comprobó que era estable, de hecho se estrello en su primer vuelo de prueba. seguramente porque era inestable.
Your video's quality is unmatched, and the render is stunning. Well Done!
Jack Northrop had a flying prototype flying wing. Then Northrop built a flying wing bomber. Two bombers actually. Concurrent developments
I agree, John Knudsen Northrop was a great aerospace engineer and designer of his time. But the Horten Brothers (particularly Reimar) were even further ahead, with their long series of elegant designs (a total of 71 known airframe designations, according to R.E. Lee), since their teenage years. First Horten true flying wing took flight in 1933, and first Northrop true flying wing in 1940. Reimar had inspiration for pure designs and scientific insight from "the father of modern fluid dynamics", the famous Dr. Ludwig Prandtl of the world leading University of Göttingen. Reimar achieved his PhD in Fluid Dynamics. I can recommemd the book 'Only the Wing: Reimar Horten's Epic Quest to Stabilize and Control the All-Wing Aircraft' (2011) by Russel E. Lee, curator in the Aeronautics Department of the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air and Space Museum. Northrop made great aircrafts, but just look at the clean lines of the elegant Horten gliders, e.g. the Ho-IV.
@@norsenomadYeah, Northrop was great, but he certainly did not put a jet engine in a flying wing ahead of Horten. The YB-35s were only flying after the war, though they were really impressive aircraft.
@@romanvarcolac2238 It is fair to count in Northrop's N-1M (neither a jet), predecessor to Y-35 aka N-9M, which flew almost 100 testflights from 1940 to 1943. Later came the Y-35, but it had some directional oscillation (yaw) issues and also serious structural issues, which was never sorted out before the accidents happened.
Northrop's Avion Model 1, which flew in 1929, does not count as a true flying wing, as it obviously had a long tail to achieve flight and stability.
A pure flying wing is the lowest-drag design configuration, theoretically. Reimar Horten could envision this pure design, and it became his goal already in his teens (note the book title I mentioned). He understood and realized early the required fluid dynamics science that Prandtl had recently discovered and published, as great steps forward for modern aerodynamics.
The one he copied from the germans?
@@florencemodina6293 Actually, Geoffrey Hill was Northrop's mentor. He travelled to Canada and USA to teach engineers about flying wing design.
What a neat little plane. 20 hours of operating time near the end of the war is a crazy short time for an engine.
Wasn't it ten hours, compared to the one hundred hours of the British?
Beautifully done graphics! I love the exploded views of all the parts.
Fantastic work! I love German WW2 technology!
Why? It was generally bad
@@jb76489 Hahahahahaha good one
@@Ausf.D.A.K. who’s joking? Where was their cavity magnetron? Their proximity fuses? Their field kitchen that didn’t run on wood? Risers for paratroopers? Spare parts? Logistics in general? All or nothing battle ship armor designs? Carrier designs that could launch more than 18 aircraft an hour? Well designed tank transmission? Antibiotics?
@@jb76489 I think you're intentionally omitting the colossal advantage in resources, manpower, logistics and intelligence that the Allies had over the Axis. Italy was basically a liability and Japan was also incapable of fighting a war of attrition.
@@Ausf.D.A.K. and? So? Therefore? I didn’t say there wasn’t an obvious explanation as to why the Germans were behind. But yes, you can definitely add bad decision making skills and shitty ally to the list of German failings
Until the B2 with its constant computer control, flying wings were impossibly unstable. Northrop made several attempts eg YB49.
So true.
The Horton was the first flying wing which was actually fairly stable.
That is why the US inspected it so deeply on how it managed to do that.
@@dom3827 Not really, the prototype crashed, and if the US drew from the 229 for it's stability, the YB 35 and 49 would have the bell shape.
@@dom3827 germong spotted
@@gp33music41 one of 3 flying prototypes crashed due to a malfunction.
No one said they drew from horton. You made that up to have an argument.
this is such a great channel and video. Thankyou fr uploading
1:59 So the peeps with balsa wood planes with a jet engine are not far off this really!! 😂 Crazy!!
Because I know someone is gonna try to bring it up, I am going to nip this conspiracy in the bud; no, Jack Northrop was not inspired by the 229 to make his flying wings. *Because the timelines don't add up.* He had been drawing paper designs for flying wings as early as 1929, he never crossed paths with the Horton brothers, and his famous XB-35 got the approval stamp from the government in 1940, something which would be difficult to get inspiration from another aircraft that wasn't discovered by Americans until 1945.
They crossed paths, one of the brothers did go to the USA after WW2 wanting to work for Northrop, but he didnt get hired so he migrated to Argentina to continue to build flying wings by its own
@@wolf310ii I too heard about this story, however all my attempts to confirm it so far have come up inconclusive. Diving down rabbit holes I found the primary source of the story to be Reimar Horton himself -- 40 years after the fact, around the same time he started claiming that he would've used charcoal to make the Ho229 stealth. From what I managed to track down of the brothers' personal exodus after the war, Walter stayed in Germany for the rest of his life, and Reimar tried and failed to get into the UK and then China before finally making it to Argentina; I cannot find any records of him trying to get into the USA that predate the 50's, after he'd spent a few years already in Argentina.
So all I can say is that while there's a small chance the story could be true, I have a very hard time believing it because again the timelines don't add up.
But then there was operation paperclip. So after operation paperclip I think most tech that popped up was actually german/nazi based.
When I see the flying bomber all I see is the Horton in there. The designs from Northrop were very different and made a sudden change with the B2. But it is interesting that they seem to have tackled certain problems the Horton would have over the B2 Spirit. Less body behind jet engines. Stronger angles on the back for better control of flight probably. More lift with more wing. Then the B-21 Raider clearly an upgrade over it again.
But ye the Horton it's shape was very far ahead of time. Even when the B-2 and B-21 are more angular. The similair shape is there.
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B2 before the b2 ?
Amazingly, we had a German fellow came to see us ±20 years ago. He signed a lease for space he said looked "just like the factory where the Horten bros built the 229s" He showed me German books and yes, our space did seem similar. He intended to reconstruct a full sized replica working Horten! There were some fascinating things he told us about his connection to Werner von Braun and Hanna Reitsch, which we could not disprove. But when rent was not paid for months, 229s were electricity was tapped unpaid and the "Deutschland über alles" signs were posted. we'd had enough, and sadly- had to pull the plug on the lease AND the project.
He made some fantastic claims about Nazi skills, Germany and "plans" that even today were scary to us.
What are the rudder pedals for? Given the lack of vertical stabiliser, the only reason I can see for having them is as brakes.
The Horton Ho-229 has split spoilers for yaw attitude control just like the B-2 does..
The problem with flying wings is they need constant micro adjusting and it hans't been until the last few decades that the computing power was small enough to put it intoo a bomber let alone a fighter. The reason you see them in jet drones noow for fighters is no need for pilots.
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Now do the Northrup YB-49.
ナチスドイツは、非常に高い技術力を持っていた。それを現代の技術が確率する前に全翼機を作れるのは素晴らしい。
ステルス性が主力ではなかったのだが、米国でこの技術が実戦機に導入されたのはナチスドイツは先進性があったのは確かだ。
common misconception, the US actually gained their inspiration for flying wing designs from the YB series of aircraft developed by Northrop
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On attend la suite et on s'abonne !!👍
German avant-garde design is amazing!! 🤩🤩🤩
1:13 Wood, even better!
to evade radars in England
exactly
Wood is genius. Plentiful, easy to manufacture, stealthy, light and very strong.
@@matthewhenley783 yes even carpenters can build the airframe which was the case in Germany ✅
A German soldier was asked (just after D-day) when did he know that the war was lost, he said
When he saw a US soldier changed a punched wheel then throw it away, because if they can afford to throw away a perfectly good wheel they must have a lot of supplies.
He also said, in Germany if you did that you would be in a lot of trouble
This is a beautiful video! ❤ i love the horten ho 229!! Thanks for the vídeo!
Imagine doing all this with 1940s technology under wartime conditions. The Germans are a remarkable people
Truly
It was great until Captain America ditched it into the ice.
Awesome details. Love your videos