Relationships and Complex Trauma - Part 11/11 - When to End One
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- When to end a relationship.
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Abusers are smart. They groom, isolate and control…gradually gaslighting and manipulating you into believing that your diminished self is actually evidence that you… blah blah blah… what I wouldn’t give to have those 20 years back!!! Hind sight. When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM!!! And, believe me, it doesn’t get better, at least not for long. RUN!!!
They’re smart at being evil and manipulative nothing else. They’re not very intelligent at self-reflection nor introspection
They arent smart. It is just you are a nice person who would never do that. But abusers arent smart. Anything but. Otherwise they would figure out they got a great catch and could live a life of happiness but instead they make life hell for the great catch and themselves.
Agreed
@@milos4378very well said👏👏👏
I was married for 37 years to an abusive guy. It was hard to divorce him because I was fearful of what he might do to me . He was very explosive which kept me in line and I was fearful from leaving . He isolated me from family and friends . He lied about an illness . I started therapy and joined a 12 step program and that gave me a little glimmer of hope that I can get out of the relationship which I did 2 yrs ago. I had to do a lot of work on myself as to why I allowed someone to treat me so poorly . It is a lot of work but worth it .
So happy you're out of that and safe now ❤
They will jeopardize your finances, your health and your time. And leave you with nothing.
Past 2 exes already did defo learnt my lesson and they both ended up with an ex good friend same 1 aswell wouldnt surprise me if had 3somes 😂🤣🙌🏽🙏🏽🫶🏽✨️💖💫
Truth!
Yes ma'am.
That's what I allowed to me💔😢
Literally...your health is GONE .
Stayed in a toxic marriage 34 years- I was raised as a Christian, that I had to forgive; to coddle bad behavior. Bad behavior increased & the golden rule never worked.
The church/ religion set me up as a fool. (My walk with God set me free!) Forgiveness heals, but don’t keep subjecting yourself to the offender.
Golden rule definitely doesn’t work for narcs
I got out after 32 years of marriage. There is life after a toxic relationship. Glad you are out and hopefully healing!
@@NewMe-iq5osWas their something that gave you a revelation that it was okay to put You first?
@@deirdremorris9234the word says to love your neighbor as yourself. You can’t love others if you don’t recognize your worth as a son/daughter of God. Letting someone abuse you is not loving them. I finally realized boundaries are not just for me but for them as a form of love. How can they ever change and grow without boundaries. I set boundaries from a place of love not hatred in my heart. And I let God deal with them. I am not their savior but I know Jesus can save them if they decide to come to Jesus with their own will.
@@happygilmore3706 Agree. I was wondering what set in motion, the lady above, to love herself enough to leave.
My last partner kept saying that he "couldn't stop being who he was," which was very angry. "I can't control my anger," which is ridiculous because he was not angry with everyone, he could control who he showed his anger to. I broke up more times than I can remember, yet he would always come back - and I was afraid of him.
It really is hard to get rid of these toxic people, they are crazy-making, manipulative, and ultimately very scary and dangerous on a profound level. This time, I am hoping it is truly done. I was done a long time ago, but his persistence was disturbing, a complete lack of respect for my boundaries. I am working on NO!
I live with one of these types also, I believe I know your feelings too! They are very mentally exhausting depleting people to deal with
Lord!! Just got rid of a narcissist!! Two years toooo long.. It’s done! All avenues blocked and locked! Took myself to the clinic & got a full STD panel, I’m freeeeee!!! Thank you Jesus, lesson learnt. 🙌🏾
Why is it that we can't see the full extent to thier manipulative behaviour whilst we are in it.
When finally out of it, it becomes very clear each and every interaction, was abuse.
Sounds like this could have been me writing this🙏🏻 what a nightmare we are in. What horrid people they are. Dangerous. My health is so bad because of this evil man.🤦♀️🙏🏻
I've worked in addiction. This mans talks are absolutely incredible. I've learned so much.
Me too….simply the best on UA-cam
Same!
Thank You Jesus for bringing me to this series
god is not an algorithm
One strike: give them a break, they’re mortal. Two strikes: take a break from the relationship. Three strikes: just break up. End of PSA.
I like that strike one: give them a break, strike two: take a break, strike three: break up!!!
I’m at twenty strikes currently 😭
@DivineOne-lt3wf Gurl.....how much you have left in you, it seems like you are really hurting 💯
Some healing is very profound.. 1 step forward 10 back. Just do your best, use your logic AND your heart.
Bullshit...one strike can be enough depending on the situation.
Thank you Mr Fletcher, I lived this way far too long. Not doing it now at 55. Wish this could be taught to young people. Very important info. God Bless you.
I realize it is pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online?
It's ok to hurt someone's feelings. You need to protect yourself. 👌🏻🙌🏻💜
Exactly they don't care about ours lol xx
Yes but that's also exactly what a narcissist would say.
@@user-bz5oj5qj7l yes, and, it's all about the intent. Do you do it on purpose because it brings you pleasure? Or do you do it because the relationship is not healthy/not a good fit for you so you know the other person can take it so that both of you will be better off seeking a different (more healthier) person or one that's a good fit (good fit = not complex trauma inducing)
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@@alexandrugheorghe5610exactly. What is the condition of your heart. Setting boundaries with someone who abuses is a form of love to them and to you. How else can they potentially change without them.
After I moved into the other bedroom. He tried to get me to drink with him at Christmas in hopes that he would get lucky. Knowing that I used to be a bad alcoholic and can not drink.
Thank you for what you do. It has helped me to understand a lot of things that I was confused about. Now, I know I do not have to feel guilty about standing up for and protecting myself.
I nearly died due to alcoholism suffered domestic violence with ex never be the same again he's betrayed me so many times couldn't ever go back tell him to go or atleast the drink if doesn't help I stay away from peeps drinking as gives me urge to do so but each to there own well done for staying strong godbless 🙌🏽🙏🏽🫶🏽✨️💖💫
Wow! Willing to tempt you with the poison. Hard to deny he acted out of self-interest.
Mine does not want to stop drinking. He hides hard stuff from me but I know. I stopped too. He has lots of anger. I can't talk to him. Never know when I'll set him off. It's a toxic existence. My health is bad because of it. I have nowhere to go.
@paulalane8638 Give your heart and soul to Jesus. He will lead you where to go. He will help you get out. I plead the blood of Jesus over you and pray that God make provision for you to get free, in Jesus name, Amen.
@@jenniferlane40Thank you! I belong to Jesus. He has not said for me to go at this time. He is faithful even in our suffering.
Life-changing lecture, many many thanks from a Chinese guy in Ethiopia
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How'd you end up there my man?
@@williammartin6643colonialism
Damn I wasn’t expecting that.
God i needed to hear this . Im turning 60 tomorrow and mu gift to myself is going to be my freedom from a man who has been dishonest , deceitful, disloyal, disrespectful, and unfaithful. Ive fallen for the " i will be a better man for you" line more times than i want to think about . Despite knowing for a fact its all bullshit. Ive put up with behavior that never should be tolerated. I accept my part in allowing it to happen. So im taking responsibility for stopping it. NOW. TODAY. IT ENDS.
Happy Birthday to the new, free me !!!!!!!
I think I should have seen this video 25 years ago my life would have been much easier
40+ yrs ago for me
Me too 😔
Me too😢 35+ years
Exactly
Isn’t that the truth
5 misconceptions of love - these were so important for me to listen to, I have been a doormat for too long and never had boundaries
Me too! No more
For Anyone going through this, a great read is Dr. David Hawkin’s book, “when loving him is hurting you.” Another Christian perspective for women healing from narcissistic abuse.
thank you!
Thank you godbless 🙌🏽🙏🏽🫶🏽✨️💖💫
Thank you for commenting this. I'm interested in having more Christian perspective of this situation
Thank you so much for suggesting this book!
nurses: "I'm dying to take care of you"....same theme
No one ever taught or modeled these things. My experience growing up in religion is that i was told that i must forgive and hold onto the promises and be spiritually minded.... but all that taught ppl was that they can behave badly and that i wouldn't leave or do anything about it. In the season of unlearning a lot of things while getting divorced.
We are to forgive so we will be forgiven. Doesn’t mean to forget or trust again. We forgive the person not sin. Hope this helps. God Bless
Religion in the hands of unsafe and unhealthy people is a weapon fashioned against souls. But relationship with Jesus is what one needs not a bunch of twisted scriptures in favour of toxic people.
@@SamO-mh8vsthat’s a load of bs.
Same here....
I can empathize on you with this! One thing I learned in my adult life is is that there are no prizes for martyrdom 😂. If I should be persecuted for the cause of Christ, so be it. However, it is totally different to keep walking back into abuse and acting like it's my "cross to bear".
“Become convinced that you’re valuable enough to protect” 💜
It's sad to see someone you care about end up dying or suffering serious consequences. Sometimes we need to accept the fact we cannot change others.😅
My mom was one of them
What he had to say about forgiveness and how it works is golden. VERY helpful!
What exactly did he say?
I missed that part:(
Relationship analogy…
You break a plate once it can be glued back together and be pretty much good as new. If you break it twice, it can be repaired but won’t be as strong as before. If you break it a third time, you might as well throw it away and get a new plate.
If someone keeps f*cking with your head and you've already explained to them that it's not okay with you and they keep acting remorseless then it's intentional and you don't owe them a break up just ghost and block. No explanation for your absence is necessary at all. They meant to harm you and meant to continue to harm you. On purpose.
But two wrongs don’t make a right. This is what is wrong with people. The person in the right still needs to keep their integrity and do right by their own morals. “Ghosting” is a last ditch effort to hurt the other person. Then, knowingly or unknowingly, you will carry that around in your heart. It’s not healthy plain and simple. Face the problem. Break up. Move forward with a clear conscience….sorry I know you got a lot of upvotes because ppl love blood and revenge, but it’s not the right thing to do. Good luck.
No. They don't deserve it and they'll just make more drama. You're acting like a narcissist is capable of mutuality or taking accountability.
@@eclectigirl it’s not about them. It’s about your own mind, heart, and soul. Can’t you see that you’re just playing into the same toxic cycle that got you where you are in the first place? The people who fall into these codependent relationships with narcissists are toxic as well. They have to grow up and change too - that’s why this man is teaching you. CHANGE…you just can’t see it because your heart is hardened by the pain. I hope one day you do.
You waste your time trying to get water from an empty vessel. You do you.
@@eclectigirl okay so now you’ve gone cryptic mage/seer? lol dude I’m saying that the imposition of your heart is still incorrect and you’re doomed to repeat your mistakes if you maintain that posture. Your pithy little quote is completely irrelevant to this conversation. Doing the upright thing is not about any other person or “vessel”…it’s not so you can gain anything from them. You literally just can’t see it. Good luck with your resentments.
Staying in a toxic relationship for 19 years, destroyed me and my children. One of my kids is tolerating an Abusive girlfriend because I modeled it. 7 years ago I was told by a pastor that a women of my age will end up growing old alone. I was told by another that marriage is a covenant and although my husband broke his side by infidelity I have not and my covenant is still standing. I was told my job is to pray for him to be restored. By the grace of God, He restores my soul, my life, my relationships
What garbage - you can’t be in a marriage of 1! The covenant is broken when one refuses to keep to the terms and conditions (ie, infidelity in your husbands case) - that was when the covenant broke. We are not in unilateral covenants like God made with his people, they are bilateral, and breakable, because of ‘the hardness of our hearts’ (ie, hardhearted behaviour is betraying your spouse). God himself is a double divorcee in the Old Testament.
@@ec1222wow, where did you find this evidence please. Which chapter of the 2nd testament ?
When someone shows you who they are the first time believe them
This man could bring a man to Jesus.
Amen.
Tim Fletcher is good teacher.
You are right. He is A good teacher.
I ended my relationship with my boyfriend six weeks ago. It’s the first time I’ve stood up for myself by exiting first. That is growth! I’m in a lot of pain and I realize I put myself in that path. But I will never go back to him. We went to counseling for 10 months and I worked the exercises. He would not. Actively recalcitrant in front of the counselor. Ironically, it was his idea to go to counseling. Thank you so much for this video. I know in my heart that I did everything that I could, and I was clear in my intention with him all along. Even in my reactive triggered states, I was journaling and doing workbooks and watching videos and going to counseling. I noticed the problems when they came up and I addressed them. Again, attachment styles come down to secure, anxious, preoccupied, fearful, avoidant, dismissive avoidant. I went in secure, leaning, anxious, preoccupied, warring more. He is dismissive, avoiding. Thank goodness I had the strength to walk away and most importantly, the strength to stay away.
I’ve been in one VERY toxic relationship for 15 years from 19-34 & never ever again. I was so depressed to start over in my mid 30s but NEVER would put myself through that AGAIN Period !!
I’ve been living this way for almost 40 years of marriage exactly the same experiences. At 62, I am living alone but extremely to difficult for him to understand that it’s over ! Trying in different ways to come back. All my doors are sealed closed !
So proud of you! You are strong and will thrive! ❤
The story of Joseph, like I've never heard it before. Love it😊
It teaches me, that no matter what the enemy does to destroys God's plans for me
I will keep on trusting God and doing good
Until His promise to me is finally fulfilled 🎉
He will work all things together for my good
I wish any of the couples therapists we have visited over the years were as clear as you are. Thank you.
Defining The five pillars of love is brilliant. My body can FEEL how right this is.
As someone who has no intrinsic model for a healthy relationship it's easy to bamboozled into accepting crappy behaviour from partners, adult kids, colleagues.
This is an empowering talk. 🙏😊
I walked away from adult siblings- no talking. The actions were a group effort, cruel- during my most vulnerable time. I walked away for safety. No regrets. I thought, read and prayed. The decision was personal. Grew up with these people, this was the last straw. I lost people i wished to love..I found peace through loving myself, trusting myself- finding others capable of love.
I thought I was reading my own comment! All of it!.minus the "I lost people I wished to love"..I DID love them. I wish they'd love me." I'm glad you found others capable of love. I thought I did, but that person left me too. :(
@Tim Fletcher.....keep doing what you do! You are very good at getting the best tools across and you make it clear for understanding.
So hard to accept. After 27 years it’s so hard to walk away. I want to believe it will never happen again. Trying to find the strength. Should have left at 31, 36, 43 and now at 54. Regardless, of his promises to never do it again im pretty certain I’ll be 64 trying to pack up this pain and put it in the box. The box is full. What I don’t understand is why he won’t let me go, if he doesn’t love me. Why not just go and find someone he truly loves. Ugh.
promises mean nothing. well he or will he not assess, accept and work to change?
Possibly a narcissist? But it truly is up to you. Trust God and ask Him for help. Hope this helps you.
I left after 32 years and 58 years old. He was perfectly happy in the marriage. I was very accommodating to him. Don’t wait for him to let you go, you only have 1 life. You choose how you want to live the rest of your life. It can be done and you can be happy without him.
You are a ‘good’ supply for him. He knows exactly how to control you therefore the relationship works for him.
@@elleb.9881 Lol, when I told my husband of 32 years that I wanted a divorce, he said “why, we have such a great marriage and we’re happy”. No…..he had a happy marriage because I did everything to make him happy so I wouldn’t see the narcissistic rage. I was miserable.
I know from my history, that what you say is TRUE!! I didn’t have the knowledge of my complex trauma until recently! Your videos help make sense of my entire life and difficulty with relationships! In addition, and very important, your teaching about trusting God is invaluable! HE is the trustworthy One! You helped me see how! Thank you!!
yesss! agree! if only we had this info YEARS/decades ago
Tim Fletcher is spot on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I was told in 2 of my toxic relationships....I dont want to be with anyone who wants to change me. Now that would be a huge deal for me to end the relationship. I gave toooooo many chances. I own my disasters. No more.
I’ve gathered enough bad experiences yet lessons to say that anyone who is abusive, disrespectful, selfish and even who has addiction needs to be alone or they’ll bring down and destroy with them anyone around them. Someone who wants to change needs to make that decision on their own and for themselves and then they should have the luxury of a loving partner and family. This comes from someone empathetic who’s had a savior complex 😅. Lesson learned. It is wayyy to risky to allow these kinds of people into your life, your job is to protect yourself ❤
breaking up with an abusive person when you have kids is not the best choice because than that abusive person (Narcissist) will have the kids all to themselves and will twist your children against you! Drag you down still and destroy you worse!
Blue Skies That happened to me too. It’s a horrible thing to do to children too.
So true it happened to me pure evil brainwashing was done to mine
@@CMoore8539 I certainly wasn't going to stay but he still did damage
I ended a marriage of 27 years that included 5 kids...only 2 were minors at the time of the divorce, but they are all very aware of their father's NPD behavior and look out for each other.
I was so damaged from the relationship that i realized there could be no change.I gave up all my rights in so i had to leave.
~💖~ thank you,
Mr. Fletcher your message has affirmed a decision I made and followed through with earlier today....almost as if it had been dropped directly from heaven ...for such
a thyme as this 🌿
It's human nature to resent someone trying to control you every move. Eventually you have to between being as much of a fake person as they are. ND LOSING YOUR OWN IDENTITY IN THE PROCESS and walkin g on egg shells , intimidation and fear. They dont want yoh, but dont want anyone else to have you. They are not the o ly one out there like that. There are many of the same types.
that is so spot on
Wow, so many need this thru a PA system. I’m so glad it’s here for me to learn from and get better and better at relationship. It’s hard to find folk that actually work on themselves, let alone someone healthy.
Wow. Thank you for this gift to my soul. 😘
Mr. Fletcher, You are the gift from God to many. I wish I had you as an adviser when I was youger, during my turbulent years in my marriage, that lasted 52 years, and cost me my health and peace dearly. But as a Christian I was devoted to my family and for that reason, nearly paid the price by my life. At least, after suffering too much and too long, I fulfilled my own promise to stand for my pride, and said goodbye to the man who was manipulative in every way possible, inspite having with him 3 children, 4 grandchildren and 3 grand grandchildren. Very sad and painful, but true story. Thank you Mr. Fletcher for your grat work and priceless help. After watching your series, I know that I've made right decision; yes it may be late, but not too late to have back my peace, to be myself again, and enjoy and love my all children, regardless my age, 75 I'll be in Sept. With all my respect, warm regards from Australia. Gods blessing to you and your loved ones 🙏🙌❤️❤️🎉🎉🎉
Discovering Tim's channel in April 2024. Holy smokes I am gonna learn a lot from this man! I have complex trauma and so does my partner. We both have poor relationship skills which is why it's turned into a disaster in only a year. Sending this video to him
Praise God! I found Tim’s channel yesterday after - as an answer to prayer about a new relationship. In my gut I see red flags by the dozens - but I am afraid of hurting his feelings. This is exactly what I needed to hear to give me strength and courage to set a boundary and most likely end this relationship. 🙏
6:13 “Non-negotiable terms.”
I am 68 ys old and try to navigate through trauma. I have had years of , still come up short. Listening to some of your tapes made me realize i am still a hot mess! It kinda set me back a bit. I am tired of all the work we have to do just to survive and still feel like a fish out of water. Having complex trauma is a life sentence that requires constant work. I seem to do all the things you talk about that trip us up. I haven't given up but i do get derailed , by the extensiveness of my circumstances.
Wow, this is so powerful, thank you @TimFletcher. Has helped to understand a lot of the components of an unhealthy, damaging, no bounderies relationship with an individual diagnosed with cptsd. Thank you for your work, very valuable😊
To day in general you have to remember to set boundaries by walking away fysically or psychologically.
21:20 this! 22:37 Over and over with the crisis management
Priceless. Thank you! ❤
I needed to hear this today. Thank you !
Such interesting talks, lectures and Lessons! More, please! Blessings to you!
Your talks are worth every ad ❤😊
Thank you for this!!
I live in the outback. 92km from neighbour. At least it makes it difficult for him to cheat. Few choices for me and moving is complicated. Life can be tough here and you really need a partner to survive. But ive learned if i love but refuse to care, it seems to work. He is actually improving but still has these total avoidance chapters. I used to be pathetically too present. Im not easy either.
Caring seems to be what they take advantage of.
Thank you these lectures are awesome and help me. You have brought me closer to God by making sense of Jesus too.
Love but not care . That's exactly how I deal ( dealt) with it as well. I'm so tired of being numb.
Brilliant work, thank you
What about those who are in their late 50’s who want to stay in recovery who want to leave, but can’t because they have no friends, no money or place to go?
I am in my 40's and in that same spot.
Same39
Emergency accomodation, womens/mens shelters, rent a room instead of a house, save pennies secretly until you go ( new bank account the partner is unaware of). Do not tell partner your plans, they will be sabotaged or you may be harmed. Try to act consistently to your partner so they dont suspect. Start investing in you....learn a hobby, do an online course, apply for jobs that are remote or live in positions. I hope any of these suggestions help. Life is too short to waste.
Wish more folks addressed this unique female problem.
This is where I am. Early 50s and complex reasons why it’s impossible for me to leave, financial, medical, etc….
For many years, we never went anywhere together on a vacation. He always promises, but never fulfills the promises. He starts an argument or fight, and it ends everything.
yessss so damn many promises.
It’s called future faking.
This is so good and much needed❤❤❤ points confirmed all of my thoughts
I love your speeches and teaches Mr tim!
This was such an incredible talk. I learned so much. Thank you for your help.
Excellent talk ❤! Thank you 🙏
So inspiring thank you
Amazing Christian storey and outlook giving hope and restoring trust in God, thank you so much 🙏 ❤
This is excellent!
BRILLIANT!! 👏👏👏
Confirm! It's great!
pretty straightforward stuff ppl as adults should have come to already intuit. great purple color.
The complex part is when one person‘s attachment style is incongruent with another person‘s attachment style and it’s a chicken or the egg thing as in, who started the negative cycle of reactivity first? And it really doesn’t matter who started it. I think trauma is something we bring up upon ourselves due to incompatible attachment styles. When we put ourselves in a path of intuitive destruction, when we don’t listen and heat the warning, red flags early on, and we hope we can still make something of it. That’s what got me into trouble every time when I forensically unpacked it. At least for me, I leave it up to myself to have to exit myself just like I would my child from a bad situation. And when I don’t exit myself from a bad situation, just like I would do for my child, then I am traumatizing myself. no good. Parent would allow their child to stay in a for example, emotionally invalidating situation, where repeatedly, the child is invalidated by another caregiver. A good parent will see that and remove the child from that kind of situation. It’s the same for us adults. When we see ourselves in a bad situation that we would never exposed to our own child, then we need to exit It’s knowing how to recognize someone else’s incongruent attachment style with our own, and then getting out! Getting out when the incompatibility is insurmountable and two people are triggering one another two old core wounds. Yes, I completely agree that we all have to work on ourselves to be better for one another in a Union together. Thank you so much for this video. It’s very helpful. Helping me be accountable for my end of things. And then still, working through the trauma and crying and experiencing the terror when it comes up.
Your retelling of Jacob’s life is pretty funny 😂😂😂 😂😂. Sounds like “Days of Our Lives” “Like sands through the hourglass…” and all that. 😆. Joseph though 😔.
I can remember every detail of the abuses, both physical and verbal. As long as I followed all the rules things we ok. Not there when I needed him. Control from the beginning but not aware of it. He has been seeing his ex. When he visits his 50 year old kids…every year for four to six weeks. Last three of his visits to Mississippi….he has lied hundreds of times. Moved his accounts out of state, guess where ? Ha. He said he was afraid of what I would do, because of his first wife
God causes ALL things to work for our good. Amen! The abuse I survived as a child caused me to see my need for Him. Thankful and blessed. Thank you for your videos. ❤
¡Gracias!
Powerful
thank you for retelling Joseph's story
😔🥀💔
God bless
I decided.
No cheating (that I know of) but very controlling and insanely jealous. Constant disrespect and abuse.
Problem is: he wont go away! Ive told him. Hes killing me.
You leave. Go away.
The more I've worked on myself, so I'm doing what really makes me happy and brings me joy and try to really listen to my partner, connect with my partner.... the more she finds fault with me. The more complaining, always raising the bar on me. Going on 14 years of this. I'm a musician and have a dog walking/boarding business both of which she has supported and expressing that she loves the dogs. In all this I have tried and tried to give her special attention, take trips together, have date nights and it never matters. She wants more more more and I am exhausted. It separates us.
Oh and I tried the line of this has to change and she yells "that's who I am". Lol
He went on many cruises, while I stayed home to take care of my mom. No support
This last year he has been playing the victim. I put him through hell he said for five years because of an infection I developed during the habitat building stages, and he discarded me would not help me told me I was crazy and told other people I was crazy and told people many many lies, but very discreetly.
Defeated in AZ
Oh my. Totally true. Manipulation tactics. Buying me and my kids with money etcand thinks that solves all only theyve never actually changed
How do you think the 4 "wives" could ever feel? The "ugly" one, the barren one, etc. Went right over that. I get the point of the story. But the misogyny. And the slaves. Yikes. So much CPTSD historical, societal.
This is just for me
This man is right on point. Especially shen you are working towards getting healthy. And we are in denal if we believe the other person who wants to contr you under the guise of jealousy . They dont want toose control of what they get out of you includi g making you feel insignifi ant to make themselves feel right. Or they figure you don't have the guts or self esteem enough to leave the fMiliR (a bad hzbit). What you did together is no longer a part of your agenda. The unfamiliar is looking Fter yourself for a change. And drop the blinders. Either they wsnt what you have or they are not going to change and don't want to. Button pushing and rehashing is a form of msnipulation. They will use what ever card, guilt and whatever they can to manipulate you which is not good now and the argue men
We have no free will, we can only decide in the frame how our synapses are built due to our experience, learnings and traumas. We do not see our blind spot and can not choose the unknown or unawareness solution.
What he doesn’t cover is the reality nowadays that both parents always get custody in a divorce.
So that means the dilemma is not do you stay with an abusive person or divorce an abusive person, it’s do you stay with your kids while they are around the abusive person so you can protect them from the abusive person, or do you divorce and leave the kids alone with the abusive person on the weekends where you cannot be there to help them.
Save yourself!😊
I have been manipulated without even knowing it. I’ve been through the full circle the love bombing, the silent treatment the devaluation humiliation put downs never comments or build up. It’s always negative insults. Why I’m here I don’t fucking know.
I have to reminded to stop the
Imagine when Potipher and his wife had to come to Joseph for food.,
22:18 Agreed to every point up to what you said before this time stamp. I don’t think it is manipulation in most cases, but that the person, that promises to do ‚anything to get you back‘ feels that they want to be with you, so they make this promise out of fear of losing you. But that is exactly the problem in my opinion- they promise to do anything (which is in my mind, the promise to become the doormat, because ‚anything‘ means they don’t respect their own needs and boundaries in that moment, which is in my opinion the reason why change can’t work. They don’t promise that because they want to change that for their own good, but out of fear of losing you.
But change can only work if you do it because you want to change. If you do it for someone else, you will always fall back into your old habbits.
23:02 Haha ok. Should have continued watching. You said the same. 😂 But still I disagree on the manipulation part. And to me that’s important, because I don’t want to see people as ‚ill intended‘, which it would be in my opinion if I‘d say their motivation is to manipulate. Still doesn’t make it ok to promise such a thing.
All your suggestions are great, and I have used them. What about family relationships and adult children? You don't me ton that in this video. Is there a video where you do address it?
WOW!!!!!!
I was abused but it's not like life is so simple like there are good people and evil people. Most people are a mixture of good and bad. People label others as bullies to justify bullying them until they kill themselves. It's all hypocritical. I question everything. I don't trust people anymore. I love and miss my Dad but he was abusive. Ironically he had a very good side and was loving a lot of the time. I would give anything to be with my Daddy again.
Just ended a relationship. One week was enough. I do miss what she showed me, but I just don't know whether it was honest. I am willing to talk with this person if they call. But I seriously doubt they will.
When you have doubts, dont do it!!!
One strike you're out? Not me! I will put up with (whatever abuse) for years!...
But do you think your not worth it ? Is that why you stay? Even if they don't change. U rather be hurt?
Ÿou are also sick. A codependent.
amen
No relationship ever!!!!!
What if youre at the point where you want to leave, but have kids with the person? I'm currently not confident in my ability to be a single parent but also am afraid to leave my kids in the situation I so badly want to escape