Thrustmaster T248 Wheel & T3PM Pedals Review
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2022
- My review of the Thrustmaster T248 wheel and T3PM pedals.
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I actually bought a T248, got it out of the box, and was actually shocked at how cheap and light and small it was. it felt 10 times cheaper than any logitech wheel, like a kids toy wrapped in a $400 price tag. i immediately returned it and got the fanatec gt dd pro. if your going $400 deep, just spend the extra money and get a fanatec.
My thoughts too mate!
I did the EXACT same thing you did. My 10 year old fanatec gt3 rsv2 wheel was better than the t248, loving the gtdd
thats a clown move
I agree fully, i couldnt believe how loght and cheap it felt. Ffb is actually pretty good but just feels like a toy compared to my old t300. I recomended it to my grandpa over a logitech since he was curious about sim racing after seeing all my stuff come in and I kind of wish I would have pushed him towards a t300 but he got it for only 269 on black friday so for that price and the quality of the ffb I think it was worth it over the g923/g29. The t300 is by far better imo. The t300 was good for what it was and I'm on a dd1 now.
I was wondering what to buy between the t248 and the t300rs gt used. Then I found that the t248 was on sale for $250. Should I buy a t248?
Picked one up recently from amazon, must admit from coming from a non FFB wheel that only had rumble motors i was shocked at how strong this was to what i was used to lol, im sure that when or if i take a leap to a DD wheel my mind will be blown even more
Thank you for all the reviews and hard work. I’m just getting into sim racing and your videos are invaluable
Glad you like them!
I love the t248 for the small lcd where you can switch settings directly on the wheel during a game
Discovered your channel while looking for pedal set reviews to upgrade the base T300RS ones I have. Have to say great content all round, easily explained from a user POV and not biased. Seen quite a few of your videos now - needless to say, subscribed and notifications on. keep up the great work mate!
Thanks Paul, appreciated mate! :)
same here! been looking for a replacement of the t300rs pedal. what did you end up buying?
Nice that you're reviewing more lower end gear, my heart is set on a T300 though, seems like the best middle ground between the Logi offerings and a Fanatec
I try to cover everything mate, but it's hard as the lower end of the market doesn't really change much, Logitech for example have has the same wheel (pretty much) for the last 10 years! lol
But yes the T300 is a good middle ground wheel.
I started iracing December 2021, with my old Microsoft wheel with resistance but no real force feedback. I bought this t248 wheel, was a huge step up from what I had. Now, yes it is plastic and I’m sure those much more expensive wheels are higher quality but, pretty much every series I race on iracing, i am always competitive as well as able to win races . Is it always so necessary to find the most expensive products for a fun experience. I respect your review but I’ve also seen reviews saying the exact opposite opinion towards Logitech. Great video keep up the good work!
"Is it always so necessary to find the most expensive products for a fun experience" no mate it's not, see last nights review of the PXN V9 as a good example of this! :)
Thats how opinions work, we are all different and all like and prefer different things, but for the price this offers nothing over the Logitech and thats the real issue.
@@KarlGosling without the ability to actually try a specific wheel before buying it’s hard to know what to buy. When I bought this wheel, the reviews I watched all leaned towards it and away from the g29.
Maybe I’m missing something I’m just not aware of with these wheels.
But in the grand scheme of it all for me, the T248 wheel is serving me well. And sim racing isn’t my life so I wasn’t about to overspend.
Again, great video, keep it up! Mate!
@@KarlGosling talking abt that, the PXN is my highest concentration which the FFB wheel PXN V10 at my place offers a slight,slight, lower price than g29 but includes a H shifter for that price. At the same time it might not be a game change for someone who uses dd wheels(not to be offense), but it has 3.2nm torque compared with g29's 2.2nm. What i've seen in most reviews are the pxn v10 is over the g29 in all aspects just not for the tuning(the ffb vibration is like crazy in default). It is so much attractive just by a quicl search amd looking at the features, metal plate, 4 pedal shifters, all 3 hall and adjustable spring foot pedals, just not for the swade cover finishing on the wheel but come on its great enough to give me so much imaginations. I tried my best to make it short but dint work well, if dear Karl did read through this and giv a respond i'd be over the moon. And really, really hoping for a review, tqvm.(in some countries it sells alot more than my place Malaysia like a Korean review bought it at 300usd which brings it's great value to nothing, hope that domt happen so the review might come through)
@@DreamstoRealityAutomotiveTV No your not missing anything. Got myself a T248 recently for 220 quid but I would have payed more for it. Its a much better wheel than the G29, peddles, FFS, shifters ... all better. Really worth it.
I did needed a You Tube tutorial to set up the software to setup the wheel.
But its ok and is really a nice wheel.
The pedal set zits against the wall and when i step on the break the place where you place your feeds will com of the ground .
I have to put to much power on the break pedal i had to put a heavy brik on it and it did help.
I used my logitech g29 pedals with the TrueBrake psuedo load cell mod and a Ricmotech adapter cable so I can use them with my T300Rs. As a starter wheel set up goes, this setup works great
Well, here in Italy the G920/G29 was sold initially for 400 € when it comes out, so even more expensive than the T248
I was torn between this and a T300. I wanted a quiet wheel. So Logitech was out of the question. Bought a T300 and I'm so glad I did. It's very quiet and the wife doesn't complain. Even sat a few feet away. While she's watching TV.
A good choice mate!
Is it normal for the accelerator pedal to have very low pressure?
Hey Karl, I’m looking to upgrade from a controller to an entry / mid level wheel stand (probably the Omega Apex) + racing wheel. I can pick up the G920 for £170 from Amazon but worried about the noise complaints I’ve read with Logitech wheels but also not convinced by the TMX or T248 from your reviews. Do you reckon there are any alternative wheels I should consider, or is the Logitech noise not as bad as people suggest when used on a stand? Cheers mate!
Logitech is noisy compared to belt driven but you won't hear it in another room for example.
Wow awesome review on the thrustmaster i myself just getting into gt7 and have a hori wheel but its not really good for the game. So planing on getting another would a better wheel improve my experience in the game?
Literally anything mate! lol Buy the best you can afford and justify is always my advice.
Does it have rubber grips on the back of the Pedal base?
I went back and forth with this wheel and the logitech 923 for GT7 on psvr2 and i kicked up and caught the t248 on sale for 269.00 US dollars!! I actually take like the pedals and i really like the wheel and probably will more after i get my rig and add the stonger spring. Do you have any suggestions for settings on the wheel or in the thrustmaster software to be the best for gt7? Thanks for your videos they are great
Sorry mate I no longer have the wheel or GT7.
Great video as always mate!! Appreciate your time. Im a G29 user and big fan.
Do u use on PS4/5? If so and you play dirt 2.0 care to share wheel settings? I can’t get mine to work on most racers and dirt 2.0 is 1 of them. Wheel is sluggish, don’t respond properly and can’t turn. I’d love to jump in but it just won’t work. Can only get dirt rally and dirt 4 to work perfectly but I’m getting bored. I really want to jump back in to driveclub but I know that I’ll be pissed if the wheel won’t work because I loved that game.
@@grahamkelly8662 im on a ps4. mine was pretty much plug and play. I did have to update drivers and firmware with my laptop. I also got Ghub to help tune pedals and assign buttons. Oh I do remember I noobed when hooking it up. Didn't switch it to ps4. Smh. Lol. Have you done all that? I dont play rally really at all. Gt sport and f1 are my digs. Gt7 needs work still. I actually have upgraded to a Gt dd pro. Got it before they sold out again. Still have my G29 cockpit though. Hope this helps. I'll check back and respond. Good luck.
@@grahamkelly8662 Logitech G29 is an older wheel. Its pretty reliable and good across a good numberof games. Some games don't support a wheel at all just because of how old they are. Gran turismo you have to start a time trial or race. Pause. Options Controller setting. Advanced I think. You want ff settings. Controller sensitivity does nothing on the wheel. Ff is what you want. I run mine at 5 and 8. Has a good feel for me on both wheels. You can go up and down as you need.
@@a92gsxdsm hi, No, I’ve not plugged g29 into pc or laptop. I simply plugged into usb at back of Ps5 . I don’t have pc/laptop, right now but I could borrow 1. Main reason I didn’t try updating firmware etc is because on UA-cam most people say that changing wheel settings, in g hub will only remain, if you play on pc and if you play on PS4/5 then no matter what you change, it won’t carry over. I can’t remember if or what settings, I changed for dirt 4 but it works flawlessly. I actually called Logitech support for help to get Dirt Rally working. The guy helped me but it was a long tedious phone call and I have extremely bad tinnitus and partially deaf. So the thought of going through the awkwardness again, puts me off, calling. Did you by any chance, plug in and try play with g29, right away, without lowering forcefeedback? I did and had shock of my life when race started. I really don’t understand why forcefeedback is automatically set to 100% on all settings. Oh, I’m planning on upgrading to Fanatec and I’ll hopefully have enough saved , by Christmas, to buy direct drive wheel base, preferably the gt version that you just bought , the clubsport f1 wheel, clubsport pedals. All these items are in stock now, apart from gt dd wheel base, but that is on pre order. My question is, do Fanatec always restock there products, regularly, when they are sold out? If so, is it possible to wait more then 6months for restock? I honestly could even wait until this time Next Year, to start buying Fanatec gear and the wait would be exciting but I’ll be gutted if I have money for the wheel base, wheel, pedals, come Christmas and they don’t have any stock. Oh, 1 more thing. I’m new to sim racing and am unsure if I should get direct drive wheel base with 5Nm or 8Nm. Right j now, I don’t particularly like high forcefeedback. With that in mind, do you think the cheaper 5Nm wheel base, is best for me? And am I right in thinking that if I did buy the 8Nm gt wheel base, i will receive a 5Nm wheel base and a bigger power supply boost kit? Or would I literally receive an 8Nm wheelbase? I mean the 8Nm gt is on pre order but it about €700 and as I feel 5Nm will be fine, it’s about half price , just makes sense to go with 5Nm. Saying that the 5Nm isn’t in stock or available to pre order.
Message you last week that i was going to get my first wheel and stand . Took on board what you said about buying the best with in your budget went for the GT Omega Classic stand ( nice discount code ) and the T248 wheel . I was going to buy the GT Omega chair to go on the chair link but a little expensive for my budget ,could i buy any cheaper chair and would it fit in the trough . Once again thank you for your advice
I hope it all serves you well mate!
i had the t248 for about 2 months was ok but the throttle pedal stopped working, it was like i was at half revs when it was all the way down. iv now returned it and gone for the fanatec gt dd pro
I was having a similar issues specifically after heavy breaking. Although when I updated the drivers it seemed to have resolved the issue.
Are the t3pm pedals better than the Logitech g27 pedals?
Bought the T300 Rs GT from amazon spain for same price. Much better deal.
yes of course a better deal if for same price.
Obviously a better choice.
The problem is, not everyone can get these deals.
Problem with t300/TX is how damn unreliable they are.
@@ernestonegron1940 yes sir. Major issues.
You actually raised an interesting piece of data when reading the power/amperage of the power brick: the g29 is in comparison starving its motors with a 1.5A, we all had great success upgrading to a 5/6/8A power supply which made the force feedback less « dampened » and more reactive/stronger.
The 248 uses a very similar setup but has that little bit more of power that should have given it a little edge on the G29… but it’s really barely noticeable compared to the upgrade to 5A
Hi! Can you recommend such a PSU for Logitech? I am thinking of upgrading to 5A/6A PSU also.
FFB is garbage
I couldn't find any new T300 near me and chosen T248, i believed it is almost 3-4x cheaper than Fanatec DD pro, I used it for 3-4 months for PS5 GT7... I don't have anything to compare with, I think its fine... if both the side of my thumbs are building up these weird bumps, I think the FFB is more than enough for me, but yes the wheel is tiny compare to an actual car's wheel for sure... more or less like 1/3 smaller... the pedals felt great but don't use them on barefoot, I did have my starting to get rust on the blush aluminum 😅 I know wear gloves and shoes to avoid building up even more bumps on the thumb and rusting even further for the pedals
Is this wheel any quieter than the g920 ?
Is this wheel enough for playing ets2/ats?? I mainly play ets2/ats
Recently went from a g29 to this set after sending two back. (G29 had the usual flimsy wire inside the wheel deciding it never wanted to be attached), The g29 brake was awful (in my opinion of course). I'm using the stiffer spring supplied in the T3pm brake pedal myself and find it alot more muscle reliant than memory as I did with the g29 pedals. Not to mention the untold issues dealing with Logitech themselves for waranty claims :(
I've just bought the T248. I currently own a G29, but it's knackered, it's loose and rattles like mad inside, just old (got it in 2016 so can't complain about reliability). It's the pedals of the T248 that sold it for me. No more potentiometers to clean/go wrong/stick on, and a £250, no contest.
@@fuzzy-daddy83 The T248 is much better than my G29, the peddles are streets ahead, the force feed back is much better, the paddle shifting is much more precise and clean. Its just a much better wheel in my opinion. I dont think this review is very good.
Excellent review! I just got this wheel at an online auction, new, in the box, and paid almost 1/3 the price. This auction sells Amazon returns, so I was wondering why someone would immediately return this. Now I know why.
I'm not a huge gamer, so I just learned how ignorant of this stuff I really am. This is my first force feedback wheel, so I had no idea what to look for. I figured that at $400 USD retail it must be decent. After I bought it I found that it's "entry level". Wow! That seems like a lot of money for anything entry level to me. Anyway, for what I paid, I'm happy, but had I known, I would have held out for a better one. I'm all about realism and immersion in my gaming.
For that price it's fine mate.
I think Thrustmaster were taking the piss when they released it at £350! You can get it new for £230 now in 2023. Seems like a much more realistic price.
Just bought t300 and t3pm pedals instead of stock t3pa ... I hope they'll do for beginner sim racer :D
Yes mate you'll be fine.
Spent ages deciding what to buy. The t248, t300rs (first choice) or g923. At the end of the day chose the t248 as it was so widely available. Maybe it's just cos of my location, but I could not find a new g923 or t300rs. The ones I found on Amazon were cheaper but they were "renewed". Which basically means 2nd hand. For similar price, I would rather spend that money for something brand new.
Should have went to b&h.
you think that T-LCM pedals are better than T3PM or are pretty much the same?
A load cell is always better than non load cell brake so the T-LCM's are better than these but still not great pedals IMO.
Personally I’d spend a little extra and get a t300. Feels better being belt driven and is just a nicer wheel to use. Also the quick release (not really that quick though), allows you to use other rims such as the formula rim. I upgraded Logitech dfgt to t300 and was a nice upgrade but then went up to fanatec csl dd and v3 pedals which is a whole new level. But, for an entry level but still decent wheel the t300 is a great choice. I also think the t300 looks better than the t248 but that’s just me.
Agreed mate!
Would you say its worth it for someone now a days to just go for the csl dd or gt dd right away, and spending the extra money? I live in canada so after import fees, shipping and conversions, it comes to $1300 CAD for just the base wheel and pedals. Or i can get the TGT2 for $1400 total with the clutch and gearbox. Or the logitech for $350 - $600, with everything, depending on what model i get. The thing that gets me about the fanatec is how expensive that gear box is. I wish they offered a cheap version and i cant use the cheap logitech one cause i play on playstation.
@@MrMoose-mf1oy it depends how serious you take sim racing and how often you’ll use it. For me, I do iracing and I go on it several hours a day usually. I started out on a Logitech and it was good but the fanatec stuff is a whole new level. If you’ve never used a wheel before or are new to sim racing then it might be best to start out on a cheaper Logitech and see how you get on. If you’re confident you’ll stick with it then the fanatec is worth the money. The one thing I noticed the biggest difference in is when I upgraded my pedals from thrustmaster t3pa to fanatec V3 with the load cell brake. That’s the thing that has made the biggest difference. I wouldn’t go with the thrustmaster to be honest, for the price difference the fanatec is worth spending a little extra for over the tgt2
Hi I watch your video for a while now and am planning a sim racing like the t248 and the next level racing cockpit would the t248 go in the GT-F cockpit with the holes that they Provided thanks.
It does fit as that's exactly my setup. It just mounts to the plate with the included screw mount.
I'm actually selling my F-GT Lite if you're interested, I'm based in Essex
@@robw3655 ok how much
@@jamiemiller2751 £150, 👍
I almost bought this but ended up getting a g29 for 150 instead
Can you review the THA8 shifter
Yup sure can, I have one here!
TS-XW? TS-PC no?
If you buy the pedals stand alone they come with different springs with various stiffness
You definitely did, this is an awful product!
Sorry...but the guy in the video never actually used a Logitech wheel....maybe used it for some video reviews but didn't have to stick to it for sure! I noticed that when he said that the potentiometers from logitech are ok and they last for 10 years LOL....I had a G27, the potentiometer from the brakes was gone after 2 years, I took the potentiometer from the clutch since I wasn't using it and replaced the one from the brakes....after another couple of years the gas pedal started to work by its own during the turns...yes...it was the potentiometer again....in less than 5 five years 2 of them were gone and there was no cleaning capable to bring them back.
It's a well known problem from logitech pedals...so yes, the T3PM not using it is a HUGE thing
another important thing to add here is, the pedals from G25, G27 and G29 are all the same, the only one that has a "mechanism" to make it progressive is the new G923, and the "mechanism" is just a piece of rubber inserted in the brake spring....and they will charge you +$200 dollars for this massive upgrade...
T248 has stronger FFB, better and more reliable pedals, it's hybrid with engine and belt system which should be superior to gears only in theory at least.
I understand people may have different views...but this review is just poor in quality of information
I really want them to release a direct drive base/wheel. They already have some good few rings and loadcell pedals, only missing the DD base. Same for Logitech, they both need to wake up after fanatec has taken the “below 1000” market by storm.
Thrustmaster will, somewere this year
Lol they made an announcement that there is “an announcement later to come this year” don’t know how promising that is judging by it seems they have done that twice from what I remember. Maybe the first one was just this wheel tho I don’t have the best memory. A competitive dd from TM? Idk about it but itd be nice to see
Just out of interest…how does this compare to the G923?
The G923 is a G920 with haptics.
I just took delivery of the Thrustmaster Pendulum Rudder pedals, you know, the ones which cost $600! It's amazing they can make something that solid and high quality for flight, but they cannot make a decent set of racing pedals. When I built my race rig last month I went with all Thrustmaster parts, except the pedals. I had to go with Fanatec Clubsport V3 pedals, since Thrustmaster doesn't have anything close to that tier of quality in their catalog.
This is interesting: the lighter the unit the more relatively powerful the feedback, especially with a small motor, so it's questionable to predicate most of the criticism on the fact that the materials are lightweight (plastic rather than metal) when it's being done to keep down costs while maximising the available FFB, which to me is pretty good marketing & design; the fact that this unit has an LED panel integrated in the wheel, which is lauded to the nines on Fanatec offerings, & hall sensors in the pedals gives it a considerable advantage over its competitors from Logitech (which by the way I think are good value in their own right) but has been pretty much ignored here. I like Karl's reviews but this one just seems like a case of he just doesn't like it, which is of course fine, but the willful omission of many of this wheel's most marketable features is a little bit damning on the reviewer rather than the manufacturer. I have had both this & the G920 & the metal core of the G920's wheel is a minor plus against TM's much more responsive, lightweight (yes it isn't a flimsy toy) offering which I think is pretty decent for the money really. The pedals are good for the price & are pretty easy to build muscle memory with so repetition bakes in & you get more lap time consistency. For me this review misses the mark entirely but it's an anomaly, Karl's offerings are usually spot on :)
As you say reviews are always opinion and experienced based so will not always agree with one another, for me this wheel and pedals are just not very good for the price, if they were cheaper it would be a different story.... £300 vs £180.
"it's being done to keep down costs while maximising the available FFB" I think it's probably being done to keep costs down and maximise profit rather than FFB and of course the cost is not down, it's almost double that of the Logitech... at least these are my thoughts.
Hmmmmm🤔 I've used this wheel and owned a g920, the thrustmaster does feel better and has slightly more force. G920 is clunky and thet248 is smoother.
Testing it back to back with my G920 they feel almost identical to me.
@@KarlGosling only thing bad is the wheel doesn't return to centre fast enough imo great beginners wheel
@@mitcheighty1354 if on pc put boost mode one correct that
@@KarlGosling if on pc put boost mode on and ffb to 100% (default is 65%) having own both the t248 is way more power juste a little bit under the t300, the t300 as 3.9nm and the t248 as 3.5nm and the g920 as 2.3-2.5nm.
Is the t300rs gt compatible with the ps5
Yes,put selector on PS4 and works fine with Ps5.
Still don't get why they called this the 248 rather than the 250.
I've got this wheel. It's ok. Thin elastic bands over the paddle shifters deaden the noise perfectly.
It is what it is. It's good for the price now (in 2023). The main thing i don't like is that it's extremely slow returning to centre.
not worth it at 400€ as at launch, but now it costs 300€ and is imo the best budget choice if buying new wheel from store.
t300 is only 100€ more, but doesn't have much stronger ffb, and has worse pedals even if just little.
Of course with such cheap price for a new logitech g920 that makes sense, but not that cheap in most other places.
If you are on a real budget I'd say buy a Logitech
If you can afford 300£ then find a T300RS GT , with the T3PA
This is cheap and plasticy :(
@@PepegaPig I bought a t300 on 2nd hand and was thinking between new tlcm pedals from store or used clubsport v2 pedals for same price (200€). went with cs.
thing is going for t300rs gt new instead of t248, it's still quite an increase in price and not even all that better
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j Hi, I've the T150 RS Pro (T3PA pedals), used a T248 (T3PM pedals) and now have a T300 RS GT (T3PA GT pedals)... I must say the T300 is way noticeably better as a wheel in ffb compared to the other two. The T3PA GT pedals feels weird, maybe even weirder than the original T3PA ones, but no worse than the T3PM.
How are you doing with the CS v2 pedals? They have the brake load cell kit? I'm debating on the same: TLCM or Fanatec with load cell kit? Not sure yet what to buy.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j i got a T300RS GT new, after a couple of months upgraded to the Clubsport v3 pedals and it's a great combination, i think the t300rs wheel is really good and plenty fast and detailed enough, i will likely get a shifter, handbrake and potentially upgrade my rig before i change the wheel :D
if you look around you can buy t300rs GT for similar price to the t248 and even if it's slightly more expensive (£50-£100 more) then it's worth waiting an extra month or two IMO - it seems like twice the quality of the T248, not to mention additions like quick release and ability to change wheel rim etc, in the grand scheme of things
@@Blerpa i literally just bought them yesterday and will be getting them next week. I was thinking of going with tlmc because of them being new and with warranty, but seller convinced me the v2's were in good shape and also I could always just sell them on.
And yes, they have load cell by default. For you, well if you will order just CSL pedals + Load cell it is not worth it as you will be paying high shipping price and it will take longer time than to just buy a tlcm locally which is easier to return too assumably.
If you are thinking of buying used, it depends on price. I could get csl elite + loadcell for 180€, but at that point I rather get v2 for 20€ more.
Also don't forget that you can't use fanatec pedals with t300 on console, only pc.
These naming schemes need to be simplified.
right. dunno which are worse, the logitech or thrustmaster haha
I just want to say I see so many comments comparing this to the T300 and saying the T300 is better. Well, yeah, no shit. This isn't competing against the T300. It's competing against the Logitech G29/G920/G923. In my opinion, the Logitech wheels feel like toys compared to the T248 when it comes to force feedback. People saying the T248 feels too light and feels like a toy makes no sense because when it's clamped to a desk or hard mounted you don't feel the weight of the actual wheel. But the T248 is more powerful than the Logitech wheels in actual use.
So I guess I'm just curious. Iv had recently a g29 , a TX, and tmx.
For me the tx is a huge step up from the Logitech. I found my tmx to be the same strength wise to the G29. The g29 of course feels nicer wrapped in leather. But the actual motion of it is an awful cogging mess. The Tmx feels like a children's toy in your hand. Absolutely terrible. But the base for me feels smoother.
Now the T248 is supposed to be 70% more powerful than the t150/tmx , which has around the same 2nm of torque that the Logitech has. So I'm very surprised that you say the t248 feels the same strength wise as the Logitech.
Pedals wise, I have always preferred the t3pas over the logitechs (which aside from the pedals being far too close to each other, just feel cheap and nasty) so I was hoping these t3pms would be a decent replacement to the t3pa.
TX is by far the best wheel out of all of those.
T248 feels no stronger to me, we have no idea where TM take their measurement of torque from and gearing will make how it feels at the wheel very different!
Pedals are kind of personal preference but the T3PA's have always been the worst of the bunch IMO.
T3PM's are ok but not as smooth as the Logitech ones.
Is t300 much better than t248 ?
Yes the t300 is better. Only the pedals t3pm of the t248 is better. You can buy the pedals alone.
This T248 is too expensive for what it is. But the logitechs are even more of a rip off. Especially here in South Africa
You should try out the t-150, it has metal paddles and rubber around the main part that you grip the wheel, I started at the t80 which was just sad unless it's for a kid but the t150 in my opinion feels amazing, or even the pro with the nicer pedals is a pretty good beginner wheel
I kust bought this. Sounds like i should have. Bought a different one. Never had s sterring wheel for my games before. Purely bought for snowrunner.
It'll be fine for that mate.
@KarlGosling yes been using it for a few hours. Seems quite good. Although more comfortable for me using the controller. But it probably just takes a bit of getting used to. The sensitivity is obviously important. Atm just over 5 seems best. One thing I am having trouble with is the pedals. I rather use buttons for acceleration and brake and use steering wheel without pedals. Although Ij do suspect after a while I will get used to it.
@KarlGosling ...also I wonder if I can buy like a steering wheel cover I think it would feel better than the plastic. Although said that about the pedals I think they should add some rumble to these pedals it would make it really realistic i think.
I've always thought the Thrustmaster wheels felt cheap and plastic-y. While not leaps and bounds ahead in performance, I find the fit and finish on the Logitech just makes it that much nicer to use.
Logitech g29 is much better made wheel. I’m upgrading to a Fanatec Csl dd pro with mclaren f1 style wheel for £600 and that’s direct drive. I would say spend the extra money if your serious about sim racing and get the Csl dd pro.
But Csl dd does not come with pedals lol ouch
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I'm sure those pedals are 50x better than the 2 pedal plastic crap I got with my TMX wheel 🤣
For sure! lol
The problem with T300 RS wheel is that they are unreliable. The life span is very short among all T300 RS users. I decided to stay away from it. I rather have something that last longer than a much better feeling wheel.
Maybe for some mate, I had one (the PC version, TX) and had no issues during my ownership.
I'm surprised that you prefer the Logitech pedals
It's the brake pedal thats the real deal breaker as well as the springing feeling, night and day difference in use.
@@KarlGosling thanks for the reply, yea that's why I was surprised, I found the brake was really nice to use especially with the stiffer spring! suppose it comes down to personal preference in the end 👍🏽
The t300 is good but the ffb dropping quickly is a waste of your money. On f1 2021 i have it in 80 and in the software program i put it on 75%. For the money that you spend on the t300 its a waste.. and a shame for that price. On google you can find many people that have the same problem with the ffb issue.
Thats likely a problem somewhere else, as i use a t300 and play f1 2021 also, do 100% races only. Ive had zero issues with ffb fade at all. Its very important you make sure the t300 (or any thrustmaster master wheel) has its firmware upgraded on a regular basis, as thrustmaster release updates for their wheels on a constant basis.
You can set the internal fan to be on permanently which will help or stop ffb fade from occurring,just google it.Had same issue on T150 before I upgraded to T300.Worked for me,totally stopped ffb fade.
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@@KarlGosling I don't think it's much of a difference from my g920 and truebrake to move over
But t248 is a fair bit more powerful than the Logitech g923
Maybe on paper but not in use IME.
And Logitech pedals are just the worst. I hate them. These t3pms should be nicer than the t3pas I usually use.
IME and IMO the Logitech ones would be my choice.
Fanatec is so much better and the DD pro isn’t that much more
It's literally double and then some mate, £699.
I own it, don't recommend.