Thrustmaster T-LCM Pedals Review
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- We finally get a load cell brake pedal from Thrustmaster. Decent set of pedals for the price point.
Intro: 0:00
Closer Look: 0:47
Adjustments: 14:58
Look Inside: 29:14
Configuration Tool: 39:36
Driving: 45:49
Final Thoughts: 50:09
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"Let's Get To It" the point where the manufacturers quiver and hope Barry goes gentle on them as no stone goes unturned.
13:45 "I'm liking what i see here!" ..the point where manufactures pop the champagne and spray each other with them.
Try watching AVE tool testing. He reads the box, pulls it apart, tells you how they lied, then puts it back together in the hopes it still works.
13:21 To manually switch your racing wheel base from T2PA / T3PA / T3PA-Pro mode to T-LCM mode, simultaneously press the downshift (left) paddle on the wheel + the MODE button on your wheel base for 3 seconds. This will allow the pedals to work at a 16 bit resolution, if you have the latest firmware installed (v31.00)!
28:23 To calibrate, the pedals must be connected directly to the PC via the USB cable. Calibration tool won't work with the RJ12 connection type! After calibration, you can reconnect the pedals and the wheel base with the RJ12 cable, because the settings you selected during calibration are already saved in the pedal’s internal memory.
buddy, i cant thank you enough for it.
Thanks! :)
How do you know if it is in tlcm mode?
@@vitusstolberg636 if you unplug und plug the base in the usb port, the red light on the left of the bease blinks 10 times
@@Isamaru7 thx
Just started watching Barry and I got to say this guys hands down the best Sim reviewer out there.
For sure! This guy and Will from Boosted Media. They dont fuck around, they give proper in depth reviews.
@@ct8618 for real, the guys a beast...👌
Totally agree in x1,25 ;)
His voice is soooo ......hypnotic.....lol...
Hell yes he is!
Im watching reviews mostly not for the product but the way how it is presented by host. Just pure joy to watch :)
I'm impressed at how you are always so detailed in every video.
Found this channel recently and gotta say he is the best sim reviewer. So detailed with an added bonus of Bob Ross kind of vibe there. Loving it.
Sir, your reviews are absolutely amazing, helped me to go for the T300, now Im checking out this pedals
Was looking into buying these and found this video, really nice to see the detail you went into covering all the different parts and giving your thoughts. Thanks!
This dude always explains everything so chill and really goes into detail! Love your garage man! Me jelly :) lol
I love how you are so absolutely calm
And zen as a person, yet an absolute S A V A G E on the rig. Thanks for this video
Really nice to see Thrustmaster finally stepping up to Loadcell Pedals. This was long overdue! Price is okay for what it is, but I'd like to see less plastic and more metal on these. Nice Review as always Barry!
I think there's a good chance that we will see a more metal "pro" version of this in the future, but that would obviously cost more, probably like $100-125 more.
@@revirdkcalb I hope your right.
@@rcg1469 just get the fanatec cs elite lc pedals, they're $200 and all metal
Yes
Thrustmaster is kinda ok when it comes to their sim game equipment. Fanatec is the king of commerical pedals.
Thanks as always for your detailed reviews Barry.
love this channel, no annoying background music, well presented, knowledgeable .. spot on mate .. Subbed
You sir are absolutely fantastic, I love your videos and information and the way it is deliverd. Thank you for doing this for us!
Best regards
Reminds me of Bob Ross, but for sim racing, so thorough and such a soothing voice to listen to. appreciate the time you took with this review and all of your reviews
Thorough review, as always. Thank you!
This is why I love YT, to get proper in depth reviews and information. Well done guys. Subscription of this channel is already done. :D
First time viewer here. Excellent video! I love the way its organised into sections and looks at each aspect of the pedals in depth. Very well thought out :) I'm here because im returning to sim racing and researching my new setup.
nice, very informative video. i know it is over 3 years old but i still wanted to say thank you and i really like your calm voice :) youre an all around cool guy! im about to buy one of these.
Best information and instructional video I have ever watched Hands Down!
Thanks Barry! Thorough as always.
Two years later and he is still the best reviewer!
Great video, thank you for the thorough breakdown & detail. Finally received my pedals this week. This video allowed me to remove the ballast: I have a Playseat Challenge and frequently transport it upstairs & downstairs and back, and need it as light as possible. Also, I like a stiffer throttle (than what is on the T3PA), and I haven't used the clutch pedal as I don't have experience driving with it, so I was able to switch the 2 springs between them. Cheers
Thanks for this video, you helped me solve a problem that occurred the other day with my brake pedal - the set screw underneath that forms the block to keep the pedal from going too far forward had somehow loosened to the point that all my springs flopped loose. :)
Another great review Barry! I love the reviews
On closer inspection it looks like the brake pedal is mounted onto a metal bracket that is screwed into the plastic base, to help it withstand the higher load compared to the throttle and clutch. You should probably add an annotation to clarify this as I, and probably many others, initially thought all the pedals were on plastic pivots.
Many thanks!
Got problems over problems with fanatec. I think, I should give these pedals a try.
Love this video, it includes all I was looking for, good job !!
Best review on UA-cam. Thanks, man. Cheers from Brazil! 🇧🇷🤝🏁
Loving the videos Barry. Thank you.
You are the Bob Ross of Sim Racing. I love your videos.
Saw the video length and thought this would be a drag. I was absolutely wrong, this was an incredible video with a perfect amount of detail, thank you so much for the in-depth review, I've constantly been having issues with pots and now I think I know what my next investment is. Cheers :)
Glad to see a highend hardware expert spend time with the mass production gear Thrustmaster still serves me well TS-PC racer an T3pa pro an TH8A shifter
I would really like to see these pedal reviews with the sim motion turned off for a minute or two. That way we'd be able to see how much actual flex are in the pedals and heel plates.
good point
Dude's the Bob Ross of sim racing. Review style and info is unmatched.
Mans voice is so soothing even on my sound system, best reviewer out there when It comes to in depth sim racing equipment reviews
Excellent review. I am going to invest in the T300RS GT set very soon. And after watching this, will definitely be upgrading the pedal set to the load cell unit! Cheers.
Thank you Barry.
Great review, as usual. Love the channel.
I love your review , i love your cockpit and i love ur simracing skills! Great work man!
I could listen to his voice all day
I like that the gas and clutch pedals feel the same. Good if one wants to use the same set of pedals for both flight and race sims.
Thank you great review to learn a bit more about pedals and stuff. Just (re)starting on line racing again after many years. So lot's and lot's to learn . Tech goes so fast ...
First video I've watched of yours. Brilliant video with so much detail! 2 things from me:
1. I love how you're an esk8er like me (saw the LaCroix in the background!)
2. I saw lots of movement side to side when you were using the pedals as you highlighted. For £179.99 it's worth it but I'd rather invest a little more and get something more robust!
Cheers for the great video again. I'm subscribed :D
Barry you’re such a tease, I wanna see your thoughts on that Porsche wheel and how it compares to the normal Fanatec Quick Release, and I want to see the setup for that DOF rig!
Jokes aside, good to see that you’re still looking at all the different price ranges. I’m sure many people will find this review very helpful!
subbed just for the intro.. amazing sound
On the bottom of the pedals underneath the sticker, there is a threaded rod that is tightened down by a nut, that acts as the stopper for the brake pedals return travel. You can adjust it to get more room where the springs would go. Really useful if you want to use different bushings, etc to give it a little bit of a firmer feel
Oh man my T3PA Pro arrives tomorrow. Why didn't I get this video 2 days ago!! Oh well my next pedal set to buy next year. Thanks for the informative review! :)
Lets get to it! 🔥
Barry, you’re the man! Watching your videos is so enlightening, educational and at the same time therapeutical👍 if you ever decide to look for another profession, I’m sure you would do just as well in radio or TV hehe.
Congrats for the beautiful job you do reviewing all these products. I’m a big fan!
Joe from Brazil😀
That sound intro gave me chills
Excellent work 💯
Thanks for the thorough review! I already see how people gonna start selling the same kind of spring sets for throttle and clutch too, because the design of how these pedals travel is kind of the same, they're just hidden under the top cover. That would be the first thing I'd buy to make this pedalset almost ideal.
Thankfully I found Barry. Knowing the details of LC and HA pedals + spacers and stiffer springs, I can make an informed choice and not just hope that more expensive means better.
And I can make a metal brace to reinforce the injection-moulded plastics base.
The sir david attenborough of sim racing 👌🏼🙌
Thanks, super professional 👍🏻
Nice to see that you can remove the clutch pedal, because I don't need it and it seems like it would interfere with my left foot which I use to brake. Exactly the info I searched for. Thank you!
Well done on another thorough review. For me, I'm coming from G25 pedals. I'm now debating over the Ricmotech LC mod for my G25 set or going to this set. The main issue is the use of plastic in the pivot points and the plastic bushings. These will not get tighter with age and in your video, there's already a lot of flex...
8:26 i foresee an haptic feedback addon for the pedals for emulating things like ABS.
Very nice review, thanks. Subscribed.
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great review, as always. this is a very promising set of pedals, considering my background of owning and modifying various pedal sets including ClubSport and Elite LC. For the price this set seems to be the best and most versatile. From this review I can see that it's very easy to invert them - swap the wires on pcb, springs and plates for brake and clutch, done. Barry missed one thing: the brake plate can be adjusted up and down - there 4 sets of holes for bolts in the pedal arm itself, all arms actually. Looking to buy this set for the fun project - take out arms with pcbs and building three separate metal bases for each pedal to get rid of all plastic and be able to move and mount them individually. ClubSport pedals are good as is, but on my set both springs are snapped and loadcell died. On Elite LC pedal set pots are not consistent and pedals have movement at pivot points, so I made a single pedal out of damaged ClubSports for gas/accelerator and use two pcbs now - one for CS gas and vibration motors, another one for Elite LC brake, clutch and Fanatec handbrake. Also on my Fanatec SQ shifter the spring snapped for its Sequencial function, and on my CSL Elite PS4 wheel rim built-it display stopped working which made it impossible to adjust the settings. Not a pleasant experience for me with Fanatec products ( except the CSL Elite PS4 wheel base - it's awesome for my needs). these T-LCMs are great for the price, but I can't find them anywhere in the states at this moment. wonder when they go on sale?
P. S. Got them from Microcenter.
Yea, my first thought was that its just rather simple plastic base, but solid HW in it, so why not simply build metal housing for it. Think thats not that hard to do.
I remember modding my t3pa pedals with transmission springs to make the clutch and acceleration pedal stiffer they are color based for stiffness and for the break pedal I used a old top hat bushing I trimmed down to fit the slot under the pedal they still work great today
I would like to make my t3pa throttle and clutch stiffer ...do you know the exact springs you use?
@@valentusslimroast6716 ricmotech.com/Spring_Upgrade_for_Thrustmaster_Pedals_p/rmt-t3papro-tcs.htm
@@valentusslimroast6716 ricmotech => Spring_Upgrade_for_Thrustmaster_Pedals_p/rmt-t3papro-tcs.htm
I have these pedals had them for 3months and gonna upgrade to the v3 these just feel so light
I see Barry's new video notification, i wear my robe, turn down the lights, put a glass of Jack Daniel's and sit back on the couch...
Excellent sim channel !!!!!
I love this guys voice
nice setup!!!
That mounting bracket (if im not mistaken) to make this pedal set compatible with existing Thrustmaster mounting holes, my F-GT cockpit has pre drilled holes for Thrustmaster pedals. Makes the mounting hardware backwards compatible without having to drill
Stepping up from my G25 there very nice 👍
Great job Berry can't wait to get my set and try them out with the TG-T comparing them with the V3 and V3 inverted pedals using the Podium. I'm sure the V3 and V3 inverted pedals are far superior but at $200.00 USD I will see if it's worth just getting these pedals compared to $359.99-$599.99, for my fellow sim racers on the fence. I honestly think Thrustmaster did good based on your review. Thanks always for the great review...
awesome reviews
thank you ! merci beaucoup !
Hey Barry. I like SMG reviews but as for pedal reviews exclusively, I would say its hard to see the flexing and movement of parts during test when the cockpit is moving. Maybe puting the camera fixed to the rig would fix this.
you can see the flex clearly when he tests the pedals in the Thrustmaster settings
Thank u for the review, my gas spring broke and looks easy change it 👍🏻
What spring did you wind up using to replace it? Mine broke too.
The plastic bushings are probably more responsible for the soft feel than the molded plastic mount. Installing brass or bronze bushings instead of the plastic ones would increase the stiffness but would also increase the stress imposed on the plastic mounts. It would be interesting to see then how long the plastic mounts last. I bought a set of these pedals when they hit the market and they are a good loadcell pedal for the price.
Hi, don't know if anyone shared the info here, but I've just opened it up to see what was inside the ballast and it's dry cement or concrete, so don't bother to try and fill it with something heavier. Truth is it's just a minor help to anyone who can't screw it on a rig. Without screwing it you have to use the softer spring combination and calibrate it to about 60%. It's still better than a "normal" non load cell but you loose most of it's potencial. If calibration is set to heavier than 60% with the soft spring combination the set keeps lifting. Hope his info helps anyone.
Edit: btw concrete from the info I've could understand is about the heavier they could have filled the ballast with, unless they'd poor liquid led in to the ballast.
Cheers
@@SuperBastardSquad Like I said, you won't be able to benefit from it's real potential.
Thanks! What's your long time experience with them?
@@jelly8594 I'm very pleased. I've got the T-Pedals Stand and since they stay against the wall it works very well, no lifting whatsoever.
...Love to own that setup!
I think these are great for bundling with the TM higher end wheels. As far a buying standalone, I’d probably go with some Fanatec pedals.
There is definitely a need for a T-LCM PRO fully metal version.
yes!
I hope your right!
@@rcg1469 get ready to pay an extra 250 bucks for that xD
@@MK-lj3jf Its almost like it cost money to build items with more expensive materials. Imagine that.
@@bimmergoon I'd have the V3 Fanatec instead of full metal TLCM with that rubbish Clutch.
NIce driving and review. Crazy the price has stayed the same.
I watched a teardown of a Thrustmaster T2 recently. While I never owned one, that level of build quality is familiar to me as someone that started gaming in the '80s. Because of this, the habit of being perhaps a little too gentle on my equipment has become ingrained. I don't tend to slam gear shifters (even in a real car), or stomp on pedals and it took me a while to feel comfortable resisting a force feedback wheel because I thought I might damage it (I still do with higher settings). I'd probably get on okay with this set due to this trait, but part of me thinks I may be better off upgrading to more robust equipment that I'm not afraid to give some abuse.
That's a great review 👌👍
I have these and they’re as solid as the real ones on my old S2000. Sometimes I think the high end sim equipment is actually better than what you’d get on a real car, and paradoxically somewhat unrealistic. Case in point: Very few cars have adjustable pedals of any sort. You just deal with it.
The high end stuff is supposed to mimic race cars not road cars
I just bought these pedals to upgrade the t3pa pedals .they bolted up perfect to my by gt omega apex wheel stand I only secured the 2 top and 2 bottom not the middle big difference
Nice and affordable pedals from Thrustmaster.
Gratt video 👍
20 seconds into this video I'm already thinking 'this dude should be in radio with that kind of voice'
this
Thx, nice!
I have a set of T3PA pedals with a loadcell mod installed. Tempted to upgrade for this.
I didn't expect the godly news reporter voice
What a voice you got there!!
These might be a good entry level load cell choice here in Canada, where Fanatec products cost far more than in the US due to expensive shipping and duties. Even a set of CSL Elite LC pedals ends up costing something like $400-450 CDN here once they get to your door, never mind the Clubsports! At that point you might as well get Heusinkveld Sprints...
I'll be interested to see what these retail for here, could be very interesting to anyone looking to upgrade from T3PAs or a Logitech pedal set.
$275 CDN on pre-order
Not sure where you live but this place in Markham, Ontario called Simulation1 has these for a $270 pre-order sale... planning making a stop there myself. The CSL are going for 350 at the same place
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I like your reviews a lot, but I have a criticism to make.
I bought this pedals soon after your review.
Now, almost an year latter, my break pedal started to have a forward resting point, so forward that the load cell rod disconnected from the pedal at the back.
Opened it up, expenting to find a bend plastic or something like that, because the force caused by the two red springs is very strong when you don't have a little play in the middle spring (deadzone).
My surprise was the break pedal assembly is fully metal and there is an adjustable resting point screw, accessible from the bottom (without opening the structure). That's not emphatized in the review, and should have been - it's a fundamental characteristic of this pedals - the load cell, with very strong metal struture (the middle mounting point of this set is to suport the brake pedal even further).
I have much more confidence in theses pedals, and recommend it to anyone.
Hi, i recently had the same issue with pedal being loose and the resting point screw needed to be tightend up but i did notice it has (or mine does) a red what looks like thread lock and i would assume this needs to be re-applied. Also if you tighten the screw to far it will apply pressure to the load cell kinda as if you was resting your foot on it so i backed it off a touch to the correct point using the calibration tool. Hopefully you see this as i am wondering if the screw came loose again after you adjusted yours?
@@dobbo4596 No, until now the nail polish did the job. It should have something from the start...
it is 100kg pressure on the loadcell but due to the lever of the pedals it's less kg at the pedal itself. I'm curious how much it is.
I don't like that some pedal manufacturers only advertise their products with the force their loadcell is capable of and not how much kg is needed on the pedal to get 100kg on the loadcell. Heusinkveld is open about it. The HE Sprint have a 120kg loadcell in the brake pedal and you actually need 64kg on the break pedal to achieve this.
Looking at the T-LCM I would say it would be around 40kg to maximum 50kg effective pressure possible on the brake pedal.
Edit: after taking some measures, taking some angles into account and trying some maths I get around 60 to 65kg pedal pressure to get 100kg on the loadcell... phew..
Surprise...Surprise !!!!😁...phew!!!
Great video
Nice review, and glad to see Thrustmaster up their game!
About the mounting points at 8:39 the fith one in the center is to secure to your rig the inner brake pedal steel frame to avoid pedal plate flex and fatigue under hard braking, you can see the bolt on the steel brake pedal frame at 30:20 it must allow better precision too especially while using the harder red springs like you did.
Well observed.
The first time I used this I was happy and did a 7h session, using my right foot to accelerate and brake with socks... now I have achilles heel tendonitis
Yeah Ill hold out for the pro set
"DO NOT pull that off. Although I might pull that off." LoL