39:00 Earlier in this season, Hinata said: "I'm glad I came here" When Hinata watched Hoshiumi be such a good player while still being short he got inspired and said that he's glad he was able to compete for Nationals and witness Hoshiumi playing. Kageyama just experienced the same thing after watching Atsumu play.
I love how Coach Ukai claps for Atsumu after that set; as a setter himself, he knows exactly how difficult that set is, especially under such a tense situation. Even though that's such a small moment in the episode, it stood out to me as an important message from Furudate to the reader and the anime to the viewer. We can hope all we want for Karasuno to win, but that doesn't mean we can't praise excellence in the opponent's game.
35:52 Ukai clapping and appreciating Atsumu's insane low SET was such a great scene. The fact than Ukai himself was a setter back then just adds more value or weight to it.
28:30. The reason why Atsumu is impressed: The guy that's setting the balls for the kids to hit is not their trainer but a special guest, the former setter for the Japanese national team (they are unimpressed at the begging--they want Giba ^_^). Atsumu first hits the ball set for him and is surprised by how easy and good it felt. Then he hears the setter say, "I'll help you get the ball over," and that is his moment of realizing how cool setters are and wanting to become one.
I'm really glad you picked up on Atsumu's personality! Many mistake him for being the King of the Court Kageyama from middle school, but they only have personality similarities, in the language against teammates. Atsumu has "earned the right" to talk like that, with his immense love for volleyball driving him to work his butt off. Of course it's frustrating to see when spikers don't give it their all after you put in the effort to give them good sets. I can personally, as a setter too, totally relate to 'Tsumu's frustration of setting good, but without teammates that are prepared to follow up on my effort with their own.
The I’m glad I came here is a callback to when Hinata saw the new tiny giant play better than him and instead of being intimidated said he was glad to he came.
@@Revaiel_ nah Oldenburg kageyama was just yelling at everybody not looking at there condition, what they are good in And much more Sorry for my broke Ass english haha
@@Revaiel_ Because there is a difference. Kageyama's sets in middle school was more on the hitters having to adjust to his sets which most of the time are impossible to do. When his teammates can't do so, he gets frustrated and yells at them. Atsumu on the hand adjusts his sets to his hitters and gives them all the support they can get. He gets frustrated because they don't try enough to score.
Regarding the nicknames of the Miya twins: after meeting Aran, who had a Western name (I think it’s the Japanese pronunciation of Alan), the twins decided to try more Westernized nicknames. Osamu shortened his name to Samu, which sounds like Sam, but trying to use the same shortening technique for Atsumu turned it into Tsumu, which sounds like nonsense.
Ok, a summary of important points: In the twins' flashback, the reason Atsumu says that setters are cool is because he is seeing how the setter is helping and making it easy for the hitters and he loves that Kageyama's line in the end references Hinata, when he saw Hoshiumi's jump and he tells Kageyama he is glad he made it to Nationals, meaning that, thanks to that he could see other amazing plays he couldn't see if he just stayed in his prefecture. So now, after seeing Atsumu's insane set, Kageyama repeats the line to Hinata, saying he is also glad, because he is also seeing some crazy plays and realizing he is not the best nor the only one with crazy skill. It just shows their competitive drive. Yeah, "Bring it!" in japanese is saa koi (さあ来い), literally meaning something like "Then, come!" or "Come at me!" saa (さあ) is an interjection, meaning something like "Then" and koi (来い) is the imperative form of the ver "to come". The line about Atsumu loving volleyball more than Osamu is great and is very important to his character. Also during the twins' flashback, whe Atsumu was setting straight up (with the wacky physics) and Aran is watching, he also says that there was something more to Atsumu than just that sibling competitive drive, there was a deeper drive to be better in Atsumu In the Sakura co. snack, it's written さくら, meaning sakura, or cherry blossom, and the flower petal is probably a cherry blossom I also love Atsumu's line after his crazy set, where he says "underhanded I have 2 arms, but overhanded I have 10 fingers, so, as a setter, I chose the higher number" it's so cool On Kinoshita's mental service aces, when he is not on the court, he is always imagining himself serving and scoring aces, probably to both boost his confidence and to visualize where and how he is going to serve Suna's comment about Kageyama being scarier than Tsukki has a lot to do with Kageyama's crazy talent and instincts paired with his intense personality, in contrast with Tsukki's more calm and colected and more rational game, with not as much skill as Kageyama and not showing emotion Also, I love Tsukkin saying that the notion that a good block has to be a stuff block is severely outdated, it's so true and so cool to see him saying that Finally, next episode is great and has some crazy moments, so be ready, things are going to get more intense
I think Atsumu likes setter because of the control part. He's hung up on the concept of "I'm LETTING you hit" as a setter, something that Kageyama does as well. "You scored thanks to me setting you".
One of the manga chapters that capture the first half of the episode was titled "The Guardian's Hero" (nishinoya being the guardian, and kinoshita being his hero) This imply that although Kinoshita didn't have a HERO moment inside the court, Noya considered him the HERO of that play. From helping him practice, as seen in the flashback, to shouting "MOVE UP ur hands and such" Nishinoya then pointed at him and clenched his fist, implying that "You may not have a epic moment yourself, BUT it was because of you why I was able to have mine. therefore, this is nothing without you.
I tear up every time i read or watch this; especially reading this in manga, because it's still frame and i get immersed in Noya's finger and Kinoshita tearing up. There was also more details in the manga that were, understandably, cut-off from the anime. I loved it when Noya uncharacteristically ignored the in-coming hugs and congratulations from the other players in the court. He turns around and gives Kinoshita his full attention. I get the same chills I had when Tsuki got his "moment". It was off-court, but it was Kinoshita's moment.
An important detail left out of the anime was *why* Nishinoya had so much trouble with overhand and floats. Basically he always unconsciously took a little step back to receive underhand, even when he knew he would have to receive overhand. That little step was enough to make him late or force him to dive for the ball, and that's the reason why he had never received a float cleanly. That was true until Kinoshita, yelling "forward", had him move in the right direction from the get go (he realised what was the problem and acted on it even from the sidelines). @Marvin Varnhorn Kinoshita's role in that scene was even more crucial that what the anime left off
37:50 I think you're cluing in on the difference between the four main setters of the story (Kageyama, Oikawa, Miya Atsumu, and Kenma), and Kenma's little add in is the best detail for it. "He's the ideal setter." The setters each scale differently in terms of how much they push their hitters vs. how much they adjust to accommodate them, including their bad habits. On one side of the scale is Oikawa, who pushes himself to the limit day in and day out to set the best ball he can no matter who the hitter is. And his natural charisma makes guys like Iwaizumi and Mad Dog give it their all; out of respect. Then on the other end was old Kageyama who FORCED hitters to match his level, even if that meant ostracizing himself because no one was as gifted. Since then he's of course come to a point somewhere in between. Then there's Atsumu who is already at that point, and has developed into what Kenma envisions as the best possible type of setter. He physically pushes himself to the brink, taking "The Extra Step" that will help his hitters score, but he also pushes them to improve and be better versions of themselves. It's not like Oikawa who tells his hitters he believes in them, and finds ways to make their tools work for the team. It's a polished version of Kageyama's old mindset, where he can balance pushing hitters to be on their game while also doing everything he can to match and exceed past them. And then there's Kenma who is just a baller on the court. Consistent, even-keeled, and capable of making game-turning adjustments all on his own.
Oikawa had one scene where he “forced” Kindaichi. When Kindachi asked Oikawa for an adjusted set, and Oikawa refused. The end result was Kindachi rising to the occasion, even though he preferred a set that was more comfortable to him.
That's a good comparison between Oikawa and Atsumu, as someone who hasn't yet read the manga, I had trouble understanding exactly how Atsumu one-ups Oikawa, and what exactly makes him better
19:44 A really cool detail right here that's easy to miss. Among the three defenders that are receiving atsumu's serve, nishinoya is the only one that remains quiet and doesn't yell "bring it" with them. Kinda highlights the fact that he is scared right at the moment, since he's usually the loud one on the defensive end.
So to explain Kinoshita’s “28th mental service ace”: besides the actual physical practice, he’s been doing visualization training. He’s been picturing exactly how he tosses and hits the ball, where he’s aiming, and how the other team reacts. Him saying that when he actually goes up to serve was to mentally treat this as another exercise where he remains perfectly calm and focused, a sort of anything you can do in practice you can do in a match kind of thing only more removed from pressure and distractions.
I loved how you caught onto the parallel between Atsumu&Osamu and Kageyama&Hinata - there's some analysis in the fandom that (theoretically) Kageyama the Tyrannical King is someone Atsumu could've become if he hadn't had Osamu, who both constantly kept him in check, provided intense competition /and/ made sure (in an intense, annoying way) Atsumu never really felt alone when he wasn't on good terms with his teammates (hence the ~affectionate~ ball smack when Atsumu was sitting all by himself outside of the gym - only Osamu was actually paying attention to that). A bit of an interesting note for Atsumu's speech about being a setter - it sounds better in Japanese because he literally says, "With underhand, I've got 2 things [for support], but with overhead I've got 10 things". Basically the parallel is even clearer cause in Japanese they use a counter ~hon (本) for counting long objects, such as arms and fingers.
Only rewatching this episode did I actually realise how much you're right about the possibility that Atsumu could have been a tyrant king like Kageyama without Osamu, much like how Hinata helped Kageyama. It's always so interesting to me to see the parallels between these players
Not quite the same but I think there was a similar moment in season 1 between Oikawa and Iwaizumi. In middle school, Oikawa was starting to take his frustration out on Kageyama but Iwaizumi stopped him and set him on the right track. I think if he didn't have Iwaizumi, he wouldn't have become a tyrant king necessarily, but just more bitter and forget the importance of teamwork
The Chapter in the manga is called the Hero of the Guardian Deity because even if Kinoshita doesn't become Karasuno's hero when it's his turn to serve, all the practice he has done partnering with Nishinoya with his float serve has turned into practice for Nishinoya's Overhand weakness😭😭
Your interpretation on Atsumu's competitiveness is spot on! I really appreciate the show for having a character with his type of personality, which may rub other characters the wrong way but you can also feel his delicate and thoughtful effort, pure love and passion for the sport. All that combined with everything you said makes Atsumu the most entertaining character to watch for me to the point of becoming my favourite character of all Haikyuu. Not to mention the pure expression of joy on his face whenever he or his teammates (sometimes even opponents) plays really well. This karasuno vs inarizaki match has been a feast man, from Tanaka's mental struggle, Kita being the routines model, Miya twins competing with each other and their high level volleyball with Aran that are enjoyable to watch, and now Nishinoya and Kinoshita's moment together. You can tell the author is on the zone when writing this match. Something I only realize after rewatching at 33:29 Atsumu was alone because he's not on good terms with the others, but Osamu, being the more mature brother he is, throws a ball at Atsumu to casually "include" him to the team moment. The twins biggest gift is each other and I'm not even being metaphorical here. Also that scene after they fought all day and then at night they're like "Wanna play winning eleven(playstation soccer game)?", "Yeah". That's a brothers moment alright.
Kageyama saying he's glad to be there is a mention to Hinata, when he said the same after watching Hoshiumi play. Both are inspired by their competition.
Coach, thank you for picking up my comment! I really let you know the interview of Yanagida, Nishida, Yamauchi and Sekita about Haikyuu, but there are huge spoilers on that interview... Yanagida is actually HUGE fan of Haikyuu and he talked how much he loves Haikyuu and picked up Kita as his favorite character on the interview. He explained that he admire Kita's attitude not only as a captain who can pull a team together in difficult situation, but also as a human being who can cry when he got a uniform for the very first time. It will be so much fun if your interview with Yanagida would become true!!
Yes I hope Coach Donny gets to check out that interview in the future (coach if you are reading this its available on UA-cam)! I think Yanagida probably also relate to Kita for them being in the same position as team captains, and him also being subbed in as a support for his jump serve in some games ( I am still sad over not seeing him in the 2022 national team roster :(
I think one of the telling moments in Atsumu's back story and the frustration they showed was the fact that he wasn't just yelling at his hitters. He point blank asked them if they had a problem with his sets, to which they replied, no they were good. His hitters weren't scoring and Atsumu was likely in his head thinking it was something with his sets, not their effort. And when he confronted them on that and it was when he got a tepid answer that he lashed out at them and asked them why they weren't scoring. Because in his head a good set is a set the hitter can score on. I think there's a subtle contrast between young Atsumu and young Kageyama. Atsumu was brilliant and demanding but introspective and hard working and he did his best to enable his hitters and he expected them to match that. Kageyama was brilliant and demanding but he was also selfish and he only thought about things from the perspective of his own setting without giving thought to his hitters. To him his sets were perfect and the hitters should be able to hit them. To Atsumu his sets were and are perfect because he's SURE his hitters can hit them. I think that's a really cool contrast between both their back stories, and I think we've already seen some of the influence Atsumu has had on Kageyama from the training camp all the way through the game.
One of the best lines that I think was slightly changed between the manga and anime adaptation was Atsumu's explanation of why he chose 10 fingers. In the manga he says "if I go underhanded i only have 2 arms. But if I set overhead I have 10 fingers, which is more to support my spikers with". Atsumu's care and dedication to his spiders is much more obvious in the manga quote. As a former setter, that quote from the manga is by far my favourite quote of all time and helped shape by mindset on the court as a setter for the team.
I love how when Kageyama and Hinata meet these stronger players making amazing plays they go "I'm so glad I saw that and I met them". The jealousy, frustration, shock, joy, awe, admiration. They accept all of it and is greatful. Their attitude to better players is honestly my favorite and something I actively keep my mind on as I grow up and meet people better at me in things.
36:52 he has always been dedicated to his spikers, he always tried to make the best sets for them and he cared for them, that is the reason he was SO mad when they didn't score off of his sets, not because he didn't care for them when u care about people as much as he does, it might get off as being inconsiderate or aggressive but everything he's ever done was trying to show his spikers that he cares about them and wants to set them as best as he can the problem before was just that he couldn't set them better and they were just worse than the other team that day and that's a concept that is hard to even understand for someone like Atsumu
Noya pointing at Kinoshita was one of my favourite chapters in the manga....they didn't really show it in the anime, but as Noya points, before it goes to Kinoshita, it flashes back to Enoshita, Yamaguchii and Kazuhito's hero moments then you see Kinoshita's clenched fist The other bueaty about the chapter was that the title wasn't shown at the start, it was at the end - i think the only chapter out of the 402 that did that - and its was 'The Guardian's Hero', which was so perfect for the chapter. As for Coach Ukai clapping and acknowledging Atsumu's super low set...if people remember that he used to be a setter in the team, so it adds more wight to it
Omg, guys, wait. The next episode is THE EPISODE 😭 I've been waiting for coach's reaction of the next episode for so long, I can't wait. Be prepared coach, things are about to get insanely interesting. Also, I love this episode a lot as well. The moment between Noya and Kinnoshita is amazing, and Atsumu's amazing set has always been a part of this episode that I love.
This next episode is the one that made me and my brother SCREAM at the top of our lungs while watching. I wait for people’s reactions to this with so much anticipation because it is just SO good.
Kinoshita is named the hero of this episode not only because he told nishinoya to move up but also because he helped nishinoya practice with his overhand receives the most, which is also shown in the flashback
When atsumu heard the "ill help you get the ball over" he was motivated to be a setter that brought his team forward facing challenges with no fear if tsumu was setting them.
"One day you're going to play with a setter that's going to find you". Coach I don't know why this made me cry at work, I don't play volleyball but this was so poetic for some reason ;_;
Spoiler: Interesting, bec Atsumu will eventually promise that he would set for Hinata. And in the manga, they eventually found each other in the same pro team.
@@jakeDgirl I read the manga last year and I think that's why I cried because of the emotions of the final arc which is my favorite arc ;_; ugh I love furudate
@@jakeDgirl also "Y'know Tobio... If you get really, reeeally good, you'll get to play lots more games. The best players get to play lots and lots of volleyball. If you get really good... I promise you... somebody who's even better will come along and find you."
Kinoshita is proof that even if you don't get much playing time for your team, you're still one of the reasons why the team is doing well because you help them improve during practices.
One theme that's starting to get really heavily put forward in this episode that's important going forward is the idea that prodigies/geniuses/people who are just naturally better at volleyball aren't genetically superior or something but have better mentalities. From the conversation during the timeout about how there is a clear difference between Nishinoya and "us normies" to which of the Miya twins was selected for the youth camp. It's not "oh this twin jumps higher" it's "this twin loves volleyball more." That theme will come back up over and over again for the rest of the season.
Which is an admirable lesson which should be in media for young people, but also a bit of patronizing wishful thinking. Almost all prodigies are without fail, also genetic freaks. It's just that on top of that they also put in superhuman amounts of work and killer mentality, but the thing is they wouldnt have been in a position to even attempt to do that without that initial advantage. It's nice to be inspired but as someone who played sports at a highly competitive level aiming for professional I always need to smother the rational part of my brain getting annoyed and going "uhm actually" at whatever media I'm watching
So when Atsumu was looking at the coach guy there and thought setters are so cool, he actually hinted at that in previous episodes. He loves seeing spikers relieved that the ball that they got is perfect and so easy to hit that they actually think they are way better than they really are. When the coach guy said "I'll help u get the ball over" Atsumu was thinking that someone (a setter) setting the whole play up from the beginning and saying "Feel free to spike it. There's nothing to fear, I laid it out for you." is the coolest thing ever and that's why he wanted to play setter.
You are on point about Kageyama. The parallels between Kageyama seeing that set and Hinata seeing Hoshiumi play. they're just so happy to make it to nationals to meet all these players that are just on a different level to anyone they have met before. these guys are future pros/ national player candidates.
About the last scene where Kageyama says, "I'm glad I came here too." It was a response to Hinata saying he was glad he came to nationals after seeing Korai aka the little giant. Both of them are super hungry competitors and seeing people in the same position as them playing their best and doing things they can't achieve yet; shows them that they both still have a lot of room to grow and better themselves.
I like how this scene is translated in the Manga (or maybe it's just the translated version I read). In the Manga kinoshita during the timeout , right after the penalty push-ups mentions to nishinoya that his bad habit of stepping back first is emerging again. Then when he yells to him to step forward instead, noya finally gets it perfectly, hence, making kinoshita the hero. It makes the scene more relevant and impactful, at least in my opinion.
35:07 Im a setter and there is nothing worst than a spiker who doesnt trust you. Even if its impossible, you have to jump like the ball is coming to you.
This episode really got to me because as a high school and college athlete I always wanted that epic moment the kinoshita was shooting for but like him it didnt happen. So seeing him tear up from failing to have his epic moment in the game REALLY resonated with me.
Hey Coach, just wanted to clarify something in case it was missed. At 34:59, atsumu is setting the freak quick to osamu (opposite) which makes this even more impressive since it’s faster than a set to a middle 🤯
Yeah, I definitely got a bit annoyed at him thinking that Osamu was a middle... He plays opposite, they're on opposite ends of the court, and yet they have that connection.
38:55 Hinata said to Kageyama this phrase previously and Kageyama didn't understand that phrase as 100%. Now he understands why Hinata said he was glad/grateful to be on the nationals. You learn a lot more from players that came through many hard plays and those competitive matches and those who really aim for the top. Of course, winning in the Nationals is a precious reward for your spent time and efforts, but what is most important is what you get out of from the process.
My favorite thing about this interaction with Kinoshita and Nishinoya is that everybody in this anime seemingly has had their "breakthrough" moment except Nishinoya. I think it's because Nishinoya already had his breakthrough moment and that's why his team looks up to him. However, emotional growth is neither linear nor forward always. We falter and go backwards because of fear. Incredibly, this interaction proves that no human is able grow without the help of others which is a beautiful thing.
That final line from Kageyama is a direct reference to Hinata's words after seeing Hoshiumi (the "little giant" with white hair who plays amazingly well) play for the first time (I believe it was episode 12 of S4). We saw the three older bois from Karasuno worried that Hinata would feel discouraged after seeing another smol player who was far better than him, but instead, Hinata showed up extra-motivated and excited, saying that he was "glad he came here". That's another great similarity between Kageyama and Hinata: when they see someone whose skill level is above their own, they don't feel negative emotions, such as feeling threatened or discouraged, but they feel motivated and inspired to grow and get even better instead. Also, notice how coach Ukai was clapping as well at that great set, he could appreciate it a lot because he used to be a setter himself. Anyway, I know everyone keeps hyping up every single episode, but next episode though... THE HYPE IS REAL!!! I'm gonna go get my tissues ready for next week...
I personally get uptight when people or fans get "Upset" when Anime uses recycled scenes. Their job is so hard, and they pump out these episodes on a weekly basis. I don't mind if people call them out, but I just hope people can respect how hard it is, and how much time those repeated scense save. Especially if the repeated scenes look good.
Donnyyyyy Please ! You have to remember the 34:21 part, him saying "you love volleyball a smidge more that I do, Tsumu' part!!! this is suuuuuper important for later story on next or mabye next next season!(I don't know how much story they are gonna do on next season.)
I really loved that scene and it was beautiful to watch you react to it. We don't need to produce wonder to be a hero. Sometimes something small as paying attention to someone for a few seconds is enough to be a hero for a moment. The fact that this show showed this instead of Kinoshita getting a serving ace is why i love this anime so much
That Nishinoya-Kinoshita moment made me tear up a bit when I first read it on manga. The way they were framed made it more impactful. Though, the anime still retain some of the feels I had from the manga. It's one of the underrated yet beautifully written moments.
A bit of a fun fact: When Atsumu gets chosen to go to the Youth National Camp instead of his brother, his brother Osamu says its because he loves volleyball more than he does. In an infographic about both brothers in the manga (the original Haikyuu comic), the author says that that while Atsumu wants to go pro, Osamu wants to be a chef when he grows up (which is why he makes a lot of food references when playing.) It kind of foreshadows the moment when Atsumu is chosen for the camp. Because, while these two are twins and are both very good at volleyball, they ultimately have very different goals in life and that is why Atsumu was chosen over Osamu. Osamu, while he is competitive and puts in the work in volleyball, doesn't put in the little bit of extra effort Atsumu does because of their differing future goals.
This episode has so many emotionally charged moments, it's crazy. But man, Atsumu saying "because I'm a setter" as a testament of how much he loves volleyball and that position always gets me
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The scene with kinoshita and nishinoya was extra heartwarming because kinoshita just missed his chance to get an ace, but he still contributed to the team by giving moral support to nishinoya
Regarding that scene when the coach tossed the ball to help young players spike, I view it as the inspiration in helping others do amazing things. In a sense that's what setters do, help their spikers perform miracle points. Atsumu is just a monster that rivals a lot compared to Oikawa and he dedicates so much to his spikers. You can't help but think how amazing of a set that was to get that low just to use your hands instead of forearms. I managed to do it once but it was very sloppy, hoping to get another moment like that again!
19:00 It's actually called exposure therapy and is one of the most successful mental health therapies according to studies. If you can convince the person to voluntarily expose themselves to their fears, the improvement is drastic.
I agree, but with this caveat: some traumas cannot be solved with exposure therapy because doing that would further traumatize someone. In Nishinoya's case, he's simply facing his fears head on, which is why it works for him.
Over Nishinoya getting quiet, I think it also references back to season 1 when Daichi talks about how whenever Nishinoya plays, he gets really quiet despite his loud personality.
33:14 really love the dynamic of the twins!! and i love how atsumu's geartest blessing is his twin (and i know it's the same with samu) cause it soo beautiful how those twins completes each other, as if they wouldn't be the person they are if the other doesn't exist. and it's so beautiful to see it in a twin, plus how they explicitly show us that
Suna is a really good player because he makes adjustments based off of what the middle blocker does. If they try and adjust to block his weird swing he’ll just hit normally and if they block normally he’ll do his weird swing. So he was saying that Tsukki was not that scary because he never actually tries to chase where he’s hitting but block the same every time. But that was all apart of Tsukkis plan so that the team can adjust to where Suna is going to hit based on his consistent blocks. Kuro from Nekoma was saying that even though he understood how Suna plays, he still wouldn’t be disciplined enough to block consistently and try to chase him for a stuff block. For your question on the last scene, right before the match Hinata was watching Korai (the new little giant) and Kageyama thought he was going to be discouraged because there was someone who took the title of little giant. But he came back to Kageyama saying he is glad that they came to nationals with a big smile on his face like he was glad that they get to come and compete against such great players. So that scene was Kageyama reciprocating that response to Hinata. Also the hiragana on your jelly snack says “Sakura”
As a middle I'd rather have 2-3 stuff blocks and the rest be digs. Being a big block and narrowing paths for my passers to take position in definitely makes me feel like I'm doing well in affecting the opposing team's offense.
The one thing that separates players like Atsumu, Kaegeyama and Hinata from the rest is their drive. To quote legendary football manager, Sir Alex Ferguson:"For me drive means a combination of a willingness to work hard, emotional fortitude, enormous powers of concentration and a refusal to admit defeat." This season as a whole has given an insight into the mentality of the players who never back down despite facing any kind of adversity. Hoshiumi, Hinata, Kaegeyama, Atsumu, Nishinoya and even Tanaka have the drive to be better versions of themselves. And when you combine that drive with enormous talent, a monster is born. Recalling back to S2 and S3, Oikawa always had the drive to become better, what he lacked was the tiniest amount of talent to become a truly competitive player, and at the end of the season 2, he finally bloomed his talent to become even scarier version of himself. Initially Oikawa used to feel negative when he saw a better player(and competitor) in Kaegeyama and Ushijima, whereas Kaegeyama felt motivated when he faced Atsumu(or even Oikawa) head on. That's why Rintarou finds Kaegeyama a bit scarier than Tsukki, as the latter doesn't have the drive comparable to Kaegeyama. And that's also the difference between Osamu and Atsumu, Atsumu not only has more love for volleyball but he also has a bigger drive for volleyball. Osamu knows that but he never stopped being competitive.
@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman Well yeah, but he's referencing "younger" as in the younger twin being more childish (which makes sense), but that doesn't actually matter when it comes to twins.
The thing with the foxes and stuff like that really just represent their animal mascot, Karasuno would be Crows, Nekoma would be cats, and Inarizaki would be foxes. Also coach, im so glad you picked up and even went back on Kinoshitas moments, however i would like your feedback on the OST used, it does that moment so much more with the right music.
2:40 so happy for the official announcement. I am an animator and I often think of Coach Donny as a reference for my ideal audience. I want someone engaged so i can put all my talent and sensitivity to good use. I also love the coaching mentality and I hope it rubs off on me. Thanks for the series Coach Donny!
Kinoshita's constant practice with Nishinoya on receiving those float serves was what gave the libero the skill and knowledge he needed to make that receive. It demonstrated something I found very important and empowering: You don't have to be the greatest player, or ever even _be on the court,_ to be a vital part of the team.
I think the last scene is simple, Hinata says this before the game, and I think he is just loving the fact that he is playing against the BEST in Japan. That if they lost to Shira, they wouldn't have been able to experience this type of competition, fans, pressure.
Can’t wait for coach to watch the next episode. That episode is one of my favorite of all season and you’ll know whose player in Haikyuu my favorite is😉
Tsukki is always talking about how he's not going to be able to beat someone that's been to nationals. Now others will be saying that about him. Plus he won't be able to use that reasoning (excuse) himself any more. 'I can't beat someone whose been to nationals... you've been to nationals'
the meaning of the last scene was a reference to episode 13 when hinata saw hoshiumi play and he got inspired. he said the exact same words there. when kageyama now saw atsumu he had the same feeling.
You know the creator of haikyuu is goated when a coach is actually gonna implement a quote from it And i really didnt think of it much when i watched it, but watching nishinoya and kinoshita’s moment now is getting me emotional
10:02 the "score ten points" is a reference to the seijoh match in S3, when Hinata told Yamaguchi "score ten points!" And after Yamaguchi was switching out, he said to Hinata, "next time, I'll score those ten points." So it's kinda this thing now within the team
Aran saying that the biggest blessing that Atsumu had was actually his brother really hit me. As a competitive player, I have never once had someone play a game with me on the same competitive level. I had the same hunger as Hinata, I dont want to win because winning feels great. I want to win because winning allows me to play more games. In the competitive scene of team sports, group dynamics is extremely important. Be extremely competitive and you can look overbearing, be a little lax and you'll be seen as a slacker. I wish I had the same environment, even just the opportunity to play in a competitive team.
39:08 Kageyama saying "I'm glad I came here too" is in reference to Hinata saying "I'm glad I came here" after watching and getting inspired by Hoshiumi (the other white haired little giant from S04E12, who was in the all Japan youth team along side Kageyama and Atsumu )
Hi coach just want to clarify if you rewatch this, the first set, the one shown in the recap before intro is done by Osamu (the grey-haired one, not by Atsumu (the blonde who got to youth national camp)
Donny, I would like to hear your thoughts about the “new set” of Kageyama that he started using in season 2, I want to hear what you think about it because people have some MAJOR problems with the back spin toss. 1) It might be pointless, he ‘adds’ backspin to the ball so the ball can go to where he wants and then drop. 2) It might be the most unrealistic thing on the show, the toss’s main purpose is to set a long pass fast, but to control where and when it will drop to where hinata will hit it. 3) It might be even ILLEGAL (in real life), which again, makes it unrealistic, nobody ever adds a spin to his toss, I asked my coach about it and he said that nobody ever does that. 4) There is and never ever was an explanation to how to add backspin to the ball without it being a double touch, I want YOU to maybe figure this thing out, you have the biggest Haikyuu Volleyball related fan-base out there, and I HAVE to know more stuff about this toss ASAP! I tried doing it A TON, I might be able to pull it off in close range but there was absolutely no breakthrough yet to long range backspin tosses, to close range quicks it just seems pointless because I can make the ball drop where the hitter will hit without a spin with a normal toss, (btw I only figured out a way to add backspin to a forward toss, to back set it is just too weird and I didn’t figure it out yet, not in any way that is successful anyway.) *I heard you might want to make a series of you trying to copy moves from the show* (and I think you should also give your opinion about every move) so here is my list of suggestions to moves you should make a video about: 1) Minus Tempo 2) Bokuto/Tanaka Ryu Cross arm movement 3) Kageyama backspin toss 4) First national match Himekawa high sky-ball serve (for beach might be more usefull) 5) Rinato Suna lean middle blocker spike technique 6) that is it, maybe this comment will get covered by other comments, but if anyone else got any suggestions of different “move/mechanics” (anyway you want to call it) from Haikyuu that I missed, you can replay them to this comment. Peace
A lot of times it's hard to describe to someone else what it means to be passionate about something, but between this episode and the next they do an amazing job of displaying and describing what "passion" really is.
I ALSO LOVE HAIKYU TOO! i play volleyball sometimes because of other issues like cleaning the house, or also playing basketball. HAIKYU IS MAH FAVORITE ANIME.:)
Should I do a TOP 5 Moments video after season 4 is over like this one? ua-cam.com/video/FnHiTvZ6nZA/v-deo.html
Yeah! Do it Coach!
Can we have some Coach donny reaction moments? And also compilations of you talking abt animation of the anime hahaha
totally! would love to see that coach!
Wenh Kageyama said "Im glad i came here too" is a callback to when Hinata first saw Hoshiumi played and he said he's glad he came
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39:00 Earlier in this season, Hinata said: "I'm glad I came here"
When Hinata watched Hoshiumi be such a good player while still being short he got inspired and said that he's glad he was able to compete for Nationals and witness Hoshiumi playing.
Kageyama just experienced the same thing after watching Atsumu play.
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I love how Coach Ukai claps for Atsumu after that set; as a setter himself, he knows exactly how difficult that set is, especially under such a tense situation. Even though that's such a small moment in the episode, it stood out to me as an important message from Furudate to the reader and the anime to the viewer. We can hope all we want for Karasuno to win, but that doesn't mean we can't praise excellence in the opponent's game.
Yes, that's the benefit of Coach Ukai being a former player and understands what they're going through
@@ElevateYourselfOfficial and a former Setter too.
35:52 Ukai clapping and appreciating Atsumu's insane low SET was such a great scene. The fact than Ukai himself was a setter back then just adds more value or weight to it.
28:30. The reason why Atsumu is impressed: The guy that's setting the balls for the kids to hit is not their trainer but a special guest, the former setter for the Japanese national team (they are unimpressed at the begging--they want Giba ^_^). Atsumu first hits the ball set for him and is surprised by how easy and good it felt. Then he hears the setter say, "I'll help you get the ball over," and that is his moment of realizing how cool setters are and wanting to become one.
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yess this line specifically really stuck with Atsumu
I'm really glad you picked up on Atsumu's personality! Many mistake him for being the King of the Court Kageyama from middle school, but they only have personality similarities, in the language against teammates. Atsumu has "earned the right" to talk like that, with his immense love for volleyball driving him to work his butt off. Of course it's frustrating to see when spikers don't give it their all after you put in the effort to give them good sets. I can personally, as a setter too, totally relate to 'Tsumu's frustration of setting good, but without teammates that are prepared to follow up on my effort with their own.
Glad to hear an actual setter’s perspective on this
The I’m glad I came here is a callback to when Hinata saw the new tiny giant play better than him and instead of being intimidated said he was glad to he came.
Couldn't you also say the same for Middle School Kageyama? Why be selectively charitable to Atsumu?
@@Revaiel_ nah Oldenburg kageyama was just yelling at everybody not looking at there condition, what they are good in And much more
Sorry for my broke Ass english haha
@@Revaiel_ Because there is a difference. Kageyama's sets in middle school was more on the hitters having to adjust to his sets which most of the time are impossible to do. When his teammates can't do so, he gets frustrated and yells at them. Atsumu on the hand adjusts his sets to his hitters and gives them all the support they can get. He gets frustrated because they don't try enough to score.
Regarding the nicknames of the Miya twins: after meeting Aran, who had a Western name (I think it’s the Japanese pronunciation of Alan), the twins decided to try more Westernized nicknames. Osamu shortened his name to Samu, which sounds like Sam, but trying to use the same shortening technique for Atsumu turned it into Tsumu, which sounds like nonsense.
Ok, a summary of important points:
In the twins' flashback, the reason Atsumu says that setters are cool is because he is seeing how the setter is helping and making it easy for the hitters and he loves that
Kageyama's line in the end references Hinata, when he saw Hoshiumi's jump and he tells Kageyama he is glad he made it to Nationals, meaning that, thanks to that he could see other amazing plays he couldn't see if he just stayed in his prefecture. So now, after seeing Atsumu's insane set, Kageyama repeats the line to Hinata, saying he is also glad, because he is also seeing some crazy plays and realizing he is not the best nor the only one with crazy skill. It just shows their competitive drive.
Yeah, "Bring it!" in japanese is saa koi (さあ来い), literally meaning something like "Then, come!" or "Come at me!" saa (さあ) is an interjection, meaning something like "Then" and koi (来い) is the imperative form of the ver "to come".
The line about Atsumu loving volleyball more than Osamu is great and is very important to his character. Also during the twins' flashback, whe Atsumu was setting straight up (with the wacky physics) and Aran is watching, he also says that there was something more to Atsumu than just that sibling competitive drive, there was a deeper drive to be better in Atsumu
In the Sakura co. snack, it's written さくら, meaning sakura, or cherry blossom, and the flower petal is probably a cherry blossom
I also love Atsumu's line after his crazy set, where he says "underhanded I have 2 arms, but overhanded I have 10 fingers, so, as a setter, I chose the higher number" it's so cool
On Kinoshita's mental service aces, when he is not on the court, he is always imagining himself serving and scoring aces, probably to both boost his confidence and to visualize where and how he is going to serve
Suna's comment about Kageyama being scarier than Tsukki has a lot to do with Kageyama's crazy talent and instincts paired with his intense personality, in contrast with Tsukki's more calm and colected and more rational game, with not as much skill as Kageyama and not showing emotion
Also, I love Tsukkin saying that the notion that a good block has to be a stuff block is severely outdated, it's so true and so cool to see him saying that
Finally, next episode is great and has some crazy moments, so be ready, things are going to get more intense
I think Atsumu likes setter because of the control part. He's hung up on the concept of "I'm LETTING you hit" as a setter, something that Kageyama does as well. "You scored thanks to me setting you".
I respect the amount of detail and effort put into this comment. Hopefully he sees this
I hope coach sees this!
@@honeyb179 thanks
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One of the manga chapters that capture the first half of the episode was titled "The Guardian's Hero" (nishinoya being the guardian, and kinoshita being his hero)
This imply that although Kinoshita didn't have a HERO moment inside the court, Noya considered him the HERO of that play. From helping him practice, as seen in the flashback, to shouting "MOVE UP ur hands and such"
Nishinoya then pointed at him and clenched his fist, implying that "You may not have a epic moment yourself, BUT it was because of you why I was able to have mine.
therefore, this is nothing without you.
i Just loved this scene so much and i was so happy for kinoshita, i mean whats cooler than being the hero of the guardian deity?
I tear up every time i read or watch this; especially reading this in manga, because it's still frame and i get immersed in Noya's finger and Kinoshita tearing up. There was also more details in the manga that were, understandably, cut-off from the anime. I loved it when Noya uncharacteristically ignored the in-coming hugs and congratulations from the other players in the court. He turns around and gives Kinoshita his full attention. I get the same chills I had when Tsuki got his "moment". It was off-court, but it was Kinoshita's moment.
An important detail left out of the anime was *why* Nishinoya had so much trouble with overhand and floats. Basically he always unconsciously took a little step back to receive underhand, even when he knew he would have to receive overhand. That little step was enough to make him late or force him to dive for the ball, and that's the reason why he had never received a float cleanly. That was true until Kinoshita, yelling "forward", had him move in the right direction from the get go (he realised what was the problem and acted on it even from the sidelines).
@Marvin Varnhorn Kinoshita's role in that scene was even more crucial that what the anime left off
@@silsail i know i also read the manga and i was so touched by it
I'm glad that in this episode, they showed that even the bench players are contributing to the team
my favorite!
Remembering that the manga chapter about the twins' backstory is called "Love", much like Atsumu's entire play style, never fails to make me emotional
i cry everytime
woah haikyu is beautiful man
37:50 I think you're cluing in on the difference between the four main setters of the story (Kageyama, Oikawa, Miya Atsumu, and Kenma), and Kenma's little add in is the best detail for it. "He's the ideal setter." The setters each scale differently in terms of how much they push their hitters vs. how much they adjust to accommodate them, including their bad habits. On one side of the scale is Oikawa, who pushes himself to the limit day in and day out to set the best ball he can no matter who the hitter is. And his natural charisma makes guys like Iwaizumi and Mad Dog give it their all; out of respect. Then on the other end was old Kageyama who FORCED hitters to match his level, even if that meant ostracizing himself because no one was as gifted. Since then he's of course come to a point somewhere in between. Then there's Atsumu who is already at that point, and has developed into what Kenma envisions as the best possible type of setter. He physically pushes himself to the brink, taking "The Extra Step" that will help his hitters score, but he also pushes them to improve and be better versions of themselves. It's not like Oikawa who tells his hitters he believes in them, and finds ways to make their tools work for the team. It's a polished version of Kageyama's old mindset, where he can balance pushing hitters to be on their game while also doing everything he can to match and exceed past them.
And then there's Kenma who is just a baller on the court. Consistent, even-keeled, and capable of making game-turning adjustments all on his own.
Beautifully said!
Oikawa had one scene where he “forced” Kindaichi. When Kindachi asked Oikawa for an adjusted set, and Oikawa refused. The end result was Kindachi rising to the occasion, even though he preferred a set that was more comfortable to him.
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That's a good comparison between Oikawa and Atsumu, as someone who hasn't yet read the manga, I had trouble understanding exactly how Atsumu one-ups Oikawa, and what exactly makes him better
19:44 A really cool detail right here that's easy to miss. Among the three defenders that are receiving atsumu's serve, nishinoya is the only one that remains quiet and doesn't yell "bring it" with them. Kinda highlights the fact that he is scared right at the moment, since he's usually the loud one on the defensive end.
So to explain Kinoshita’s “28th mental service ace”: besides the actual physical practice, he’s been doing visualization training. He’s been picturing exactly how he tosses and hits the ball, where he’s aiming, and how the other team reacts. Him saying that when he actually goes up to serve was to mentally treat this as another exercise where he remains perfectly calm and focused, a sort of anything you can do in practice you can do in a match kind of thing only more removed from pressure and distractions.
I loved how you caught onto the parallel between Atsumu&Osamu and Kageyama&Hinata - there's some analysis in the fandom that (theoretically) Kageyama the Tyrannical King is someone Atsumu could've become if he hadn't had Osamu, who both constantly kept him in check, provided intense competition /and/ made sure (in an intense, annoying way) Atsumu never really felt alone when he wasn't on good terms with his teammates (hence the ~affectionate~ ball smack when Atsumu was sitting all by himself outside of the gym - only Osamu was actually paying attention to that).
A bit of an interesting note for Atsumu's speech about being a setter - it sounds better in Japanese because he literally says, "With underhand, I've got 2 things [for support], but with overhead I've got 10 things". Basically the parallel is even clearer cause in Japanese they use a counter ~hon (本) for counting long objects, such as arms and fingers.
Only rewatching this episode did I actually realise how much you're right about the possibility that Atsumu could have been a tyrant king like Kageyama without Osamu, much like how Hinata helped Kageyama. It's always so interesting to me to see the parallels between these players
Yeah, you're right. I hope coach can see this as well. Nice analysis.
Not quite the same but I think there was a similar moment in season 1 between Oikawa and Iwaizumi. In middle school, Oikawa was starting to take his frustration out on Kageyama but Iwaizumi stopped him and set him on the right track. I think if he didn't have Iwaizumi, he wouldn't have become a tyrant king necessarily, but just more bitter and forget the importance of teamwork
imo, every comment that explains the kanji linguistics of Haikyuu needs to be thanked.
so, thank you.
The Chapter in the manga is called the Hero of the Guardian Deity because even if Kinoshita doesn't become Karasuno's hero when it's his turn to serve, all the practice he has done partnering with Nishinoya with his float serve has turned into practice for Nishinoya's Overhand weakness😭😭
Your interpretation on Atsumu's competitiveness is spot on! I really appreciate the show for having a character with his type of personality, which may rub other characters the wrong way but you can also feel his delicate and thoughtful effort, pure love and passion for the sport. All that combined with everything you said makes Atsumu the most entertaining character to watch for me to the point of becoming my favourite character of all Haikyuu. Not to mention the pure expression of joy on his face whenever he or his teammates (sometimes even opponents) plays really well. This karasuno vs inarizaki match has been a feast man, from Tanaka's mental struggle, Kita being the routines model, Miya twins competing with each other and their high level volleyball with Aran that are enjoyable to watch, and now Nishinoya and Kinoshita's moment together. You can tell the author is on the zone when writing this match.
Something I only realize after rewatching at 33:29 Atsumu was alone because he's not on good terms with the others, but Osamu, being the more mature brother he is, throws a ball at Atsumu to casually "include" him to the team moment. The twins biggest gift is each other and I'm not even being metaphorical here.
Also that scene after they fought all day and then at night they're like "Wanna play winning eleven(playstation soccer game)?", "Yeah". That's a brothers moment alright.
I now have the hilarious image of Coach Donny attending a gallery exhibit of roasted pepper paintings 😂
Coach needs to see this
Kageyama saying he's glad to be there is a mention to Hinata, when he said the same after watching Hoshiumi play.
Both are inspired by their competition.
Coach, thank you for picking up my comment! I really let you know the interview of Yanagida, Nishida, Yamauchi and Sekita about Haikyuu, but there are huge spoilers on that interview... Yanagida is actually HUGE fan of Haikyuu and he talked how much he loves Haikyuu and picked up Kita as his favorite character on the interview. He explained that he admire Kita's attitude not only as a captain who can pull a team together in difficult situation, but also as a human being who can cry when he got a uniform for the very first time. It will be so much fun if your interview with Yanagida would become true!!
Yes I hope Coach Donny gets to check out that interview in the future (coach if you are reading this its available on UA-cam)! I think Yanagida probably also relate to Kita for them being in the same position as team captains, and him also being subbed in as a support for his jump serve in some games ( I am still sad over not seeing him in the 2022 national team roster :(
I think one of the telling moments in Atsumu's back story and the frustration they showed was the fact that he wasn't just yelling at his hitters. He point blank asked them if they had a problem with his sets, to which they replied, no they were good.
His hitters weren't scoring and Atsumu was likely in his head thinking it was something with his sets, not their effort. And when he confronted them on that and it was when he got a tepid answer that he lashed out at them and asked them why they weren't scoring. Because in his head a good set is a set the hitter can score on. I think there's a subtle contrast between young Atsumu and young Kageyama.
Atsumu was brilliant and demanding but introspective and hard working and he did his best to enable his hitters and he expected them to match that.
Kageyama was brilliant and demanding but he was also selfish and he only thought about things from the perspective of his own setting without giving thought to his hitters. To him his sets were perfect and the hitters should be able to hit them.
To Atsumu his sets were and are perfect because he's SURE his hitters can hit them.
I think that's a really cool contrast between both their back stories, and I think we've already seen some of the influence Atsumu has had on Kageyama from the training camp all the way through the game.
One of the best lines that I think was slightly changed between the manga and anime adaptation was Atsumu's explanation of why he chose 10 fingers. In the manga he says "if I go underhanded i only have 2 arms. But if I set overhead I have 10 fingers, which is more to support my spikers with". Atsumu's care and dedication to his spiders is much more obvious in the manga quote.
As a former setter, that quote from the manga is by far my favourite quote of all time and helped shape by mindset on the court as a setter for the team.
I love how when Kageyama and Hinata meet these stronger players making amazing plays they go "I'm so glad I saw that and I met them". The jealousy, frustration, shock, joy, awe, admiration. They accept all of it and is greatful. Their attitude to better players is honestly my favorite and something I actively keep my mind on as I grow up and meet people better at me in things.
Hey coach just so you know, Osamu actually plays opposite and they did the hinata kageyama quick when Atsumu did the lunge set :)
36:52 he has always been dedicated to his spikers, he always tried to make the best sets for them and he cared for them, that is the reason he was SO mad when they didn't score off of his sets, not because he didn't care for them
when u care about people as much as he does, it might get off as being inconsiderate or aggressive but everything he's ever done was trying to show his spikers that he cares about them and wants to set them as best as he can
the problem before was just that he couldn't set them better and they were just worse than the other team that day and that's a concept that is hard to even understand for someone like Atsumu
Noya pointing at Kinoshita was one of my favourite chapters in the manga....they didn't really show it in the anime, but as Noya points, before it goes to Kinoshita, it flashes back to Enoshita, Yamaguchii and Kazuhito's hero moments then you see Kinoshita's clenched fist
The other bueaty about the chapter was that the title wasn't shown at the start, it was at the end - i think the only chapter out of the 402 that did that - and its was 'The Guardian's Hero', which was so perfect for the chapter.
As for Coach Ukai clapping and acknowledging Atsumu's super low set...if people remember that he used to be a setter in the team, so it adds more wight to it
Omg, guys, wait. The next episode is THE EPISODE 😭 I've been waiting for coach's reaction of the next episode for so long, I can't wait. Be prepared coach, things are about to get insanely interesting.
Also, I love this episode a lot as well. The moment between Noya and Kinnoshita is amazing, and Atsumu's amazing set has always been a part of this episode that I love.
Yeess from that episode it's getting better and better
Haha I feel like people keep saying that for every episode!
@@ElevateYourselfOfficial that's because it's true!
@@ElevateYourselfOfficial we love this show, what can we say!
This next episode is the one that made me and my brother SCREAM at the top of our lungs while watching. I wait for people’s reactions to this with so much anticipation because it is just SO good.
Kinoshita is named the hero of this episode not only because he told nishinoya to move up but also because he helped nishinoya practice with his overhand receives the most, which is also shown in the flashback
Atsumu saying "because i'm a setter" always makes me tear up. The voice actor really sells the love in that statement
When atsumu heard the "ill help you get the ball over" he was motivated to be a setter that brought his team forward facing challenges with no fear if tsumu was setting them.
"One day you're going to play with a setter that's going to find you". Coach I don't know why this made me cry at work, I don't play volleyball but this was so poetic for some reason ;_;
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Interesting, bec Atsumu will eventually promise that he would set for Hinata. And in the manga, they eventually found each other in the same pro team.
@@jakeDgirl I read the manga last year and I think that's why I cried because of the emotions of the final arc which is my favorite arc ;_; ugh I love furudate
@@jakeDgirl also "Y'know Tobio... If you get really, reeeally good, you'll get to play lots more games. The best players get to play lots and lots of volleyball. If you get really good... I promise you... somebody who's even better will come along and find you."
oh my, this phrase was looks like spoiling him hahahaha
I honestly fell in love with Atsumu's character after that set and his honest feelings and love as a setter in volleyball he pride himself on.
Kinoshita is proof that even if you don't get much playing time for your team, you're still one of the reasons why the team is doing well because you help them improve during practices.
One theme that's starting to get really heavily put forward in this episode that's important going forward is the idea that prodigies/geniuses/people who are just naturally better at volleyball aren't genetically superior or something but have better mentalities. From the conversation during the timeout about how there is a clear difference between Nishinoya and "us normies" to which of the Miya twins was selected for the youth camp. It's not "oh this twin jumps higher" it's "this twin loves volleyball more." That theme will come back up over and over again for the rest of the season.
Which is an admirable lesson which should be in media for young people, but also a bit of patronizing wishful thinking. Almost all prodigies are without fail, also genetic freaks. It's just that on top of that they also put in superhuman amounts of work and killer mentality, but the thing is they wouldnt have been in a position to even attempt to do that without that initial advantage.
It's nice to be inspired but as someone who played sports at a highly competitive level aiming for professional I always need to smother the rational part of my brain getting annoyed and going "uhm actually" at whatever media I'm watching
You can see that theme heavily in the karasuno vs seijoh game as well. With oikawa and kageyama
So when Atsumu was looking at the coach guy there and thought setters are so cool, he actually hinted at that in previous episodes.
He loves seeing spikers relieved that the ball that they got is perfect and so easy to hit that they actually think they are way better than they really are. When the coach guy said "I'll help u get the ball over" Atsumu was thinking that someone (a setter) setting the whole play up from the beginning and saying "Feel free to spike it. There's nothing to fear, I laid it out for you." is the coolest thing ever and that's why he wanted to play setter.
You are on point about Kageyama.
The parallels between Kageyama seeing that set and Hinata seeing Hoshiumi play.
they're just so happy to make it to nationals to meet all these players that are just on a different level to anyone they have met before.
these guys are future pros/ national player candidates.
About the last scene where Kageyama says, "I'm glad I came here too." It was a response to Hinata saying he was glad he came to nationals after seeing Korai aka the little giant. Both of them are super hungry competitors and seeing people in the same position as them playing their best and doing things they can't achieve yet; shows them that they both still have a lot of room to grow and better themselves.
I like how this scene is translated in the Manga (or maybe it's just the translated version I read). In the Manga kinoshita during the timeout , right after the penalty push-ups mentions to nishinoya that his bad habit of stepping back first is emerging again. Then when he yells to him to step forward instead, noya finally gets it perfectly, hence, making kinoshita the hero. It makes the scene more relevant and impactful, at least in my opinion.
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*Coach: That's like Kageyama and Hinata, they're kinda like brothers.*
*The 16,576 Kagehina fics in AO3: 👁👄👁*
35:07 Im a setter and there is nothing worst than a spiker who doesnt trust you. Even if its impossible, you have to jump like the ball is coming to you.
This episode really got to me because as a high school and college athlete I always wanted that epic moment the kinoshita was shooting for but like him it didnt happen. So seeing him tear up from failing to have his epic moment in the game REALLY resonated with me.
If you'll remember from the last episode, Kinoshita was imagining himself scoring service aces as mental training while he was on the bench.
Hey Coach, just wanted to clarify something in case it was missed. At 34:59, atsumu is setting the freak quick to osamu (opposite) which makes this even more impressive since it’s faster than a set to a middle 🤯
Yeah, I definitely got a bit annoyed at him thinking that Osamu was a middle... He plays opposite, they're on opposite ends of the court, and yet they have that connection.
38:55 Hinata said to Kageyama this phrase previously and Kageyama didn't understand that phrase as 100%. Now he understands why Hinata said he was glad/grateful to be on the nationals. You learn a lot more from players that came through many hard plays and those competitive matches and those who really aim for the top. Of course, winning in the Nationals is a precious reward for your spent time and efforts, but what is most important is what you get out of from the process.
"they should have saved the great animation for this moment" no need coach... i can't see it through my tears anyways
atsumu is the older one actually even though he acts like the younger one lol and somehow it makes me like their sibling dynamic even more
My favorite thing about this interaction with Kinoshita and Nishinoya is that everybody in this anime seemingly has had their "breakthrough" moment except Nishinoya. I think it's because Nishinoya already had his breakthrough moment and that's why his team looks up to him. However, emotional growth is neither linear nor forward always. We falter and go backwards because of fear. Incredibly, this interaction proves that no human is able grow without the help of others which is a beautiful thing.
That final line from Kageyama is a direct reference to Hinata's words after seeing Hoshiumi (the "little giant" with white hair who plays amazingly well) play for the first time (I believe it was episode 12 of S4). We saw the three older bois from Karasuno worried that Hinata would feel discouraged after seeing another smol player who was far better than him, but instead, Hinata showed up extra-motivated and excited, saying that he was "glad he came here". That's another great similarity between Kageyama and Hinata: when they see someone whose skill level is above their own, they don't feel negative emotions, such as feeling threatened or discouraged, but they feel motivated and inspired to grow and get even better instead. Also, notice how coach Ukai was clapping as well at that great set, he could appreciate it a lot because he used to be a setter himself.
Anyway, I know everyone keeps hyping up every single episode, but next episode though... THE HYPE IS REAL!!! I'm gonna go get my tissues ready for next week...
38:46 that was a response to hinata's dialogue when he was watching hishiomi and said "I'm glad I'm here" from S4Part1
The overused joke
Inarizaki: We don't need Memories
Suna: **Catches everything on cam**
I personally get uptight when people or fans get "Upset" when Anime uses recycled scenes. Their job is so hard, and they pump out these episodes on a weekly basis. I don't mind if people call them out, but I just hope people can respect how hard it is, and how much time those repeated scense save. Especially if the repeated scenes look good.
Donnyyyyy Please ! You have to remember the 34:21 part, him saying "you love volleyball a smidge more that I do, Tsumu' part!!! this is suuuuuper important for later story on next or mabye next next season!(I don't know how much story they are gonna do on next season.)
Next episode has one of my favorite scenes of all time
I really loved that scene and it was beautiful to watch you react to it. We don't need to produce wonder to be a hero. Sometimes something small as paying attention to someone for a few seconds is enough to be a hero for a moment. The fact that this show showed this instead of Kinoshita getting a serving ace is why i love this anime so much
That Nishinoya-Kinoshita moment made me tear up a bit when I first read it on manga. The way they were framed made it more impactful. Though, the anime still retain some of the feels I had from the manga. It's one of the underrated yet beautifully written moments.
"Tsukki is the king of comebacks."
A bit of a fun fact:
When Atsumu gets chosen to go to the Youth National Camp instead of his brother, his brother Osamu says its because he loves volleyball more than he does.
In an infographic about both brothers in the manga (the original Haikyuu comic), the author says that that while Atsumu wants to go pro, Osamu wants to be a chef when he grows up (which is why he makes a lot of food references when playing.)
It kind of foreshadows the moment when Atsumu is chosen for the camp. Because, while these two are twins and are both very good at volleyball, they ultimately have very different goals in life and that is why Atsumu was chosen over Osamu. Osamu, while he is competitive and puts in the work in volleyball, doesn't put in the little bit of extra effort Atsumu does because of their differing future goals.
the next episode has hands down my favourite moment from haikyuu. hyped for next week
This episode has so many emotionally charged moments, it's crazy. But man, Atsumu saying "because I'm a setter" as a testament of how much he loves volleyball and that position always gets me
I actually just noticed this, but the twins’s shirt colors as kids match their hair colors in the present lol.
Just wanted to give a Sakuraco shoutout. I used your code to get last month's box and it was perfect timing because they also sent out invitations for a virtual Japan tour that I was able to be a part of. The snacks came in this past weekend and you were right, they were all quite tasty.
The scene with kinoshita and nishinoya was extra heartwarming because kinoshita just missed his chance to get an ace, but he still contributed to the team by giving moral support to nishinoya
Love these coach 🥳 im actually looking forward to the re-visit of all episodes the most !
Chills. Straight chills. Chills during the Kinoshita moment and chills during the moment when Atsumi shows off his dedication at a setter.
Regarding that scene when the coach tossed the ball to help young players spike, I view it as the inspiration in helping others do amazing things. In a sense that's what setters do, help their spikers perform miracle points.
Atsumu is just a monster that rivals a lot compared to Oikawa and he dedicates so much to his spikers. You can't help but think how amazing of a set that was to get that low just to use your hands instead of forearms. I managed to do it once but it was very sloppy, hoping to get another moment like that again!
It's amazing how a smidge can actually differentiate whether you are chosen to be in national youth camp or not. So, never slacking.
I have a new appreciation for the food scenes in Haikyu now!
19:00 It's actually called exposure therapy and is one of the most successful mental health therapies according to studies. If you can convince the person to voluntarily expose themselves to their fears, the improvement is drastic.
I agree, but with this caveat: some traumas cannot be solved with exposure therapy because doing that would further traumatize someone. In Nishinoya's case, he's simply facing his fears head on, which is why it works for him.
Can't wait for the next reaction for ep 22 cause it has one of my and probably every Haikyu fans favorite scene
Over Nishinoya getting quiet, I think it also references back to season 1 when Daichi talks about how whenever Nishinoya plays, he gets really quiet despite his loud personality.
33:14 really love the dynamic of the twins!! and i love how atsumu's geartest blessing is his twin (and i know it's the same with samu) cause it soo beautiful how those twins completes each other, as if they wouldn't be the person they are if the other doesn't exist. and it's so beautiful to see it in a twin, plus how they explicitly show us that
I REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF U WANT TO RE-REACT ALL OF HAIKYUU SEASON.. i definitely looking forward that content!
Suna is a really good player because he makes adjustments based off of what the middle blocker does. If they try and adjust to block his weird swing he’ll just hit normally and if they block normally he’ll do his weird swing. So he was saying that Tsukki was not that scary because he never actually tries to chase where he’s hitting but block the same every time. But that was all apart of Tsukkis plan so that the team can adjust to where Suna is going to hit based on his consistent blocks. Kuro from Nekoma was saying that even though he understood how Suna plays, he still wouldn’t be disciplined enough to block consistently and try to chase him for a stuff block.
For your question on the last scene, right before the match Hinata was watching Korai (the new little giant) and Kageyama thought he was going to be discouraged because there was someone who took the title of little giant. But he came back to Kageyama saying he is glad that they came to nationals with a big smile on his face like he was glad that they get to come and compete against such great players. So that scene was Kageyama reciprocating that response to Hinata.
Also the hiragana on your jelly snack says “Sakura”
As a middle I'd rather have 2-3 stuff blocks and the rest be digs. Being a big block and narrowing paths for my passers to take position in definitely makes me feel like I'm doing well in affecting the opposing team's offense.
When I saw good video reaction, i will said it and give this thumb up. Thanks coach for ur time. Thanks also for the advice about fear.
I appreciate that!
Best reactions to Haikyuu...Coach Donnie gets it.
The one thing that separates players like Atsumu, Kaegeyama and Hinata from the rest is their drive. To quote legendary football manager, Sir Alex Ferguson:"For me drive means a combination of a willingness to work hard, emotional fortitude, enormous powers of concentration and a refusal to admit defeat." This season as a whole has given an insight into the mentality of the players who never back down despite facing any kind of adversity. Hoshiumi, Hinata, Kaegeyama, Atsumu, Nishinoya and even Tanaka have the drive to be better versions of themselves. And when you combine that drive with enormous talent, a monster is born. Recalling back to S2 and S3, Oikawa always had the drive to become better, what he lacked was the tiniest amount of talent to become a truly competitive player, and at the end of the season 2, he finally bloomed his talent to become even scarier version of himself. Initially Oikawa used to feel negative when he saw a better player(and competitor) in Kaegeyama and Ushijima, whereas Kaegeyama felt motivated when he faced Atsumu(or even Oikawa) head on. That's why Rintarou finds Kaegeyama a bit scarier than Tsukki, as the latter doesn't have the drive comparable to Kaegeyama. And that's also the difference between Osamu and Atsumu, Atsumu not only has more love for volleyball but he also has a bigger drive for volleyball. Osamu knows that but he never stopped being competitive.
I love how coach keeps calling Atsumu the “younger” one even though they’re twins lmao
And it's been confirmed that atsumu was born first anyway lmao
One twin is always younger
@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman Well yeah, but he's referencing "younger" as in the younger twin being more childish (which makes sense), but that doesn't actually matter when it comes to twins.
Next episode is also gonna be crazy man I can’t wait for it
37.41 omg coach just said things that kept in my heart for so long!!! I actually got goosebumps by listening what you said
The thing with the foxes and stuff like that really just represent their animal mascot, Karasuno would be Crows, Nekoma would be cats, and Inarizaki would be foxes. Also coach, im so glad you picked up and even went back on Kinoshitas moments, however i would like your feedback on the OST used, it does that moment so much more with the right music.
17:00 They are talking about Aran's name being a cool foreign name. So Osamu wanna change his name to: Samu (Japanese pronuntiation of "SAM").
2:40 so happy for the official announcement. I am an animator and I often think of Coach Donny as a reference for my ideal audience. I want someone engaged so i can put all my talent and sensitivity to good use. I also love the coaching mentality and I hope it rubs off on me. Thanks for the series Coach Donny!
Kinoshita's constant practice with Nishinoya on receiving those float serves was what gave the libero the skill and knowledge he needed to make that receive. It demonstrated something I found very important and empowering:
You don't have to be the greatest player, or ever even _be on the court,_ to be a vital part of the team.
23:10 love that humour 🤣
I think the last scene is simple, Hinata says this before the game, and I think he is just loving the fact that he is playing against the BEST in Japan. That if they lost to Shira, they wouldn't have been able to experience this type of competition, fans, pressure.
Next episode might be my favourite in the whole show (for good reason). Can't wait to see your reaction to it!
I love re-watching this series through your eyes. You have such cool insight.
Can’t wait for coach to watch the next episode. That episode is one of my favorite of all season and you’ll know whose player in Haikyuu my favorite is😉
Tsukki is always talking about how he's not going to be able to beat someone that's been to nationals. Now others will be saying that about him. Plus he won't be able to use that reasoning (excuse) himself any more. 'I can't beat someone whose been to nationals... you've been to nationals'
the meaning of the last scene was a reference to episode 13 when hinata saw hoshiumi play and he got inspired. he said the exact same words there. when kageyama now saw atsumu he had the same feeling.
You know the creator of haikyuu is goated when a coach is actually gonna implement a quote from it
And i really didnt think of it much when i watched it, but watching nishinoya and kinoshita’s moment now is getting me emotional
That moment made me cry! I felt it..so glad to see it in someone else. My heart just melted
10:02 the "score ten points" is a reference to the seijoh match in S3, when Hinata told Yamaguchi "score ten points!" And after Yamaguchi was switching out, he said to Hinata, "next time, I'll score those ten points." So it's kinda this thing now within the team
Aran saying that the biggest blessing that Atsumu had was actually his brother really hit me. As a competitive player, I have never once had someone play a game with me on the same competitive level. I had the same hunger as Hinata, I dont want to win because winning feels great. I want to win because winning allows me to play more games. In the competitive scene of team sports, group dynamics is extremely important. Be extremely competitive and you can look overbearing, be a little lax and you'll be seen as a slacker. I wish I had the same environment, even just the opportunity to play in a competitive team.
39:08 Kageyama saying "I'm glad I came here too" is in reference to Hinata saying "I'm glad I came here" after watching and getting inspired by Hoshiumi (the other white haired little giant from S04E12, who was in the all Japan youth team along side Kageyama and Atsumu )
Hi coach just want to clarify if you rewatch this, the first set, the one shown in the recap before intro is done by Osamu (the grey-haired one, not by Atsumu (the blonde who got to youth national camp)
Donny, I would like to hear your thoughts about the “new set” of Kageyama that he started using in season 2, I want to hear what you think about it because people have some MAJOR problems with the back spin toss.
1) It might be pointless, he ‘adds’ backspin to the ball so the ball can go to where he wants and then drop.
2) It might be the most unrealistic thing on the show, the toss’s main purpose is to set a long pass fast, but to control where and when it will drop to where hinata will hit it.
3) It might be even ILLEGAL (in real life), which again, makes it unrealistic, nobody ever adds a spin to his toss, I asked my coach about it and he said that nobody ever does that.
4) There is and never ever was an explanation to how to add backspin to the ball without it being a double touch, I want YOU to maybe figure this thing out, you have the biggest Haikyuu Volleyball related fan-base out there, and I HAVE to know more stuff about this toss ASAP!
I tried doing it A TON, I might be able to pull it off in close range but there was absolutely no breakthrough yet to long range backspin tosses, to close range quicks it just seems pointless because I can make the ball drop where the hitter will hit without a spin with a normal toss, (btw I only figured out a way to add backspin to a forward toss, to back set it is just too weird and I didn’t figure it out yet, not in any way that is successful anyway.) *I heard you might want to make a series of you trying to copy moves from the show* (and I think you should also give your opinion about every move) so here is my list of suggestions to moves you should make a video about:
1) Minus Tempo
2) Bokuto/Tanaka Ryu Cross arm movement
3) Kageyama backspin toss
4) First national match Himekawa high sky-ball serve (for beach might be more usefull)
5) Rinato Suna lean middle blocker spike technique
6) that is it, maybe this comment will get covered by other comments, but if anyone else got any suggestions of different “move/mechanics” (anyway you want to call it) from Haikyuu that I missed, you can replay them to this comment.
Peace
A lot of times it's hard to describe to someone else what it means to be passionate about something, but between this episode and the next they do an amazing job of displaying and describing what "passion" really is.
I ALSO LOVE HAIKYU TOO! i play volleyball sometimes because of other issues like cleaning the house, or also playing basketball. HAIKYU IS MAH FAVORITE ANIME.:)