I hear you, more often than not the only person who sees this behavior is their partner.... no one else sees or believes it. Go slowly folks, dont let the lust cloud your judgement
Currently dealing with this with my partner of 20years,we have 3 kids together. I'm hard working, loyal and am an open book to her. Sick of being stonewalled and getting silent treatment for no reason. When I try to calmly have any form of deep conversation with her about it I get attacked and made to think I'm the problem. Shows zero empathy or self reflection and refuses to think she does anything wrong. Very challenging to deal with. Be careful choosing your partners
It's hard to leave when children are involved but generally advisable as the tension among partners can sometimes be more damaging than what dividing the family does.
I asked my narc.. what do you feel.. the answer always the same.. empty. The pseudo personality of the narc lies, denies, cheats and covers inferiority with grandiosity, pointing this behaviour out can bring vengence upon you.. when they get caught cheating, it is to be celebrated as this can be the easiest/safest way to exit the relationship.. occ sis
Clay, yes she is a narcissist. No, you have done nothing wrong. Clay, you could not have made this story up. It did happen, Narcissists are out there, male and female. They often make their way into MGMT/supervisory roles. Unfortunately narcissists also need to enter into relationships... Thank you for approaching this subject. Finally, if anyone out there meets a narcissist, keep at arms length, ignore or best of all run... for your life. Once again, thanks Clay.
Maybe a very early stage - definitely gaslighting involved. The narcissist usually love bombs, then acts passive aggressively, gaslights and then sadly the victim gets eaten for supply which is what they live to do (the fuel) after the victim is attached and narcissists do these things with no empathy whatsoever - it’s really sad because it could have occurred (their cause and original scar) from them being themselves a victim or naturally - they make great politicians and lawyers obviously. Best advice is to run and do what you have, I’ve unfortunately known so many. Thanks for the story and enjoy listening to your experiences 👍
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Cheers, I had a father and the mother of my daughter that were narcissists. Although I knew things weren’t right it took so long to figure out but I put it in the experience category of something I needed to learn about
Narcissist and sociopath are the same thing (but there are 'professionals' who say not) and their inability to question their own behaviour or admit their fault are the easiest way to identify them. No matter the cost just walk away, is my advice.
@@umvhu Yes, the sociopath or further psychopath is the more unhinged versions, whereas the narcissist can blend into their environment and generally last longer stalking prey eating their supply slowly
I think the best distinction I've heard is that a narcissist reacts and a sociopath/psychopath premeditates. I think narcissists are the byproduct of unfortunate circumstances, the culture, and perhaps some of their DNA, but I suspect psychopaths are just born and have no ability to empathize, and navigate the world accordingly.
I purchased two tickets to a Ry Cooder concert. The night of his concert, my girlfriend and I had a disagreement. Over sex or the lack thereof.😢 in a fit of rage, she tore the tickets in half. 😮 The moral of the story? Adopt tact. 😂😂
Had our family pulled apart by a narcissis . They always know best . Nothing is never their fualt. They will never ever take responsibility for what they have done or own being out of line . Its soul destroying watching what they do to thier victims. Our family will never be the same again . There are grand kids involved. Its taken a long time for me to excepted it all.
My bestie married one, we got her out after a year of marriage. We had to show her and she got it.😊 And a bil, 3 failed marriages, doesn't see his kids or grandkids, compulsive gambler, still owes us alot of money as we have bailed him out. And a mysongist racist 🙄
Ello ello bro..that's one thing I never did was have a filter 😂, Ill say it makes you look fat or dosnt suit you, I dont care who you are Ill speak freely to a male or female, my whole family is shameless and filterless😂. I dated a shelia years ago now Emily in wellington I met her at a Halloween party, in those years I was Extremely Vampyric and drank blood,. She was a cutter so I had free blood on tap so to speak. Anyways we ended up dating and whilst I was working and shouting drinks etc she was amazing, The minute she got a job at Dream Girls a brothel and she started making more money then me she changed.. I never slept with her ever I had no attraction and she did sex for a job so not thanks. But she got evil,.told me noone wanted me around,.told me to off myself,she went from this fun goth chick to this evil crazy shelia. I tell I've never dated since that and never will again,.she almost drove me to something worse then Suicide. I was already in a bad headspace then and that almost pushed me over the edge. Nowadays Im living my best life happily single. Leone and Emily and others like that dont understand the damage they can cause men, Much love mate
Dam bro. That's a hell of a way to get put off women. Vampire drinking blood and she was a cutter...sounds like a symbiotic relationship of sorts. There are some beautiful caring women out there bro. You have to trust yourself, not the woman. Get involved with another and trust yourself if it goes wrong that you will take care of yourself and be OK.
@@thebrocheckclub1777 +Yeah mate I was a odd ball not gonna lie lol, I've never really been one to be interested in relationships sexual or not.. I just gave it a go to make people happy I think.. I'm definitely a Introvert moreso a happy loner lol. But yeah in that time I really believed I was half Vampyre and needed blood to live, These days I realize I was in a delusion 😂. Appreciate the content mate, much love
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Gotcha. That's def going to be a factor. The part I found interesting about your story was when you talked about Leonie and the nice meal and night you had together before everything came back to a confusing and challenging muddle. It reminded me of how interactions with our anima projected onto woman in the world can be pretty profound and beautiful and leave strong lasting impressions. It also reminds me how it is challenging projecting this inner archetype onto woman we know and interact with in the world, who may fulfil certain aspects but struggle in others, and how there can be a real instability in such a process of anima projection being maintained long-term and vice-versa for us them and the animus our inner masculine women project upon us. Connecting deeply with our anima in our dreams can be very fulfilling. It reminds me of the story of the Helen of Troy and how men set out and go to war over her, and aspects of Aphrodite, the divine feminine being projected by men onto physical woman and how we can blindly chase after them in the world, and not grasp the anima internally in our inner spiritual world.
I chatted to chat gpt about the above paragraph -- You've touched on some good points. The anima and animus projections onto people in the world, especially those we form close connections with, can indeed be both beautiful and destabilizing. The anima, when projected, can illuminate qualities of vulnerability, creativity, and receptivity in others, leading to moments of deep connection like the one you described with Leonie. These moments can feel transformative, as if something transcendent is being shared. However, as you pointed out, the projection is not stable-it can shift, revealing contradictions or bringing confusion. The anima or animus may fulfill certain needs or desires but fail to completely embody the idealized qualities we project onto them. This dissonance can lead to disillusionment, particularly when expectations are unmet or when we expect others to fulfill these deeper, archetypal roles. Your reference to Helen of Troy is powerful as well. The way she was idealized and projected onto, sparking immense conflict, illustrates how the anima, as a collective archetype, can be externalized in ways that obscure its true meaning. Instead of cultivating the anima within-the feminine principle as an inner force guiding us toward creativity, intuition, and spiritual growth-many men in mythology, as well as in modern life, project these qualities onto physical women. The outer chase for the ideal can mask the need for the inner work of integrating the anima and connecting with the divine feminine within. In dreams, however, the anima offers us an opportunity to confront and integrate those projections, allowing us to connect more fully with this powerful inner archetype. When we work consciously with these dreams, rather than chasing the external, we gain access to deeper wisdom and a sense of oneness with the flow of life.
I reckon It's all put in our path to help us learn and experience diff scenarios, I've been out with some chicks that were bat shit crazy. The elusive furry magnet can us blokes in a power of shit 😂 stay safe.
Wow I wish I could say that happened to me great story but it would have been very strange thinking that you were losing your mind luckily you got out of it except maybe the intimacy part. I always thought I was a bit of an ugly duckling and I didn’t have any one to tell me what to do so I didn’t know how to approach girls. I think I was 18 when I broke my virginity with my sisters best friend I think she felt sorry for me Ha Ha 🤣🤣 hope you guys don’t mind me sharing that if anything it could be a bit of a laugh 🤭 😂 . But things got a bit better after that but I rushed into getting married not long after that not too here someone else that only lasted 3 years the only good thing to come out of it is my son we had together he’s a fine young man now with 5 off his own kids. I did remarry 10 years after that and still together till this day. I guess I got lucky. All the best clay hope you didn’t mind me sharing that part of my life. 🙏🤠Colin 😘🤭😂🍻
I hear you, more often than not the only person who sees this behavior is their partner.... no one else sees or believes it. Go slowly folks, dont let the lust cloud your judgement
@@joshjameskiwibushman so true..
Currently dealing with this with my partner of 20years,we have 3 kids together. I'm hard working, loyal and am an open book to her. Sick of being stonewalled and getting silent treatment for no reason. When I try to calmly have any form of deep conversation with her about it I get attacked and made to think I'm the problem. Shows zero empathy or self reflection and refuses to think she does anything wrong. Very challenging to deal with. Be careful choosing your partners
It's hard to leave when children are involved but generally advisable as the tension among partners can sometimes be more damaging than what dividing the family does.
I know all about that! It is painful to go through! The pain and destruction they cause is devastating!
I asked my narc.. what do you feel.. the answer always the same.. empty. The pseudo personality of the narc lies, denies, cheats and covers inferiority with grandiosity, pointing this behaviour out can bring vengence upon you.. when they get caught cheating, it is to be celebrated as this can be the easiest/safest way to exit the relationship.. occ sis
Clay, yes she is a narcissist. No, you have done nothing wrong. Clay, you could not have made this story up. It did happen, Narcissists are out there, male and female. They often make their way into MGMT/supervisory roles. Unfortunately narcissists also need to enter into relationships... Thank you for approaching this subject. Finally, if anyone out there meets a narcissist, keep at arms length, ignore or best of all run... for your life. Once again, thanks Clay.
A fantastic vlog Clay, m8. I have just shared with my Mum who is dealing with this atm...😊
Good on ya mate.
Maybe a very early stage - definitely gaslighting involved. The narcissist usually love bombs, then acts passive aggressively, gaslights and then sadly the victim gets eaten for supply which is what they live to do (the fuel) after the victim is attached and narcissists do these things with no empathy whatsoever - it’s really sad because it could have occurred (their cause and original scar) from them being themselves a victim or naturally - they make great politicians and lawyers obviously. Best advice is to run and do what you have, I’ve unfortunately known so many. Thanks for the story and enjoy listening to your experiences 👍
Well said, mate.
Thanks for the feedback. You have a great understanding of what they are like.
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Cheers, I had a father and the mother of my daughter that were narcissists. Although I knew things weren’t right it took so long to figure out but I put it in the experience category of something I needed to learn about
It's the lies that baffled me the most. She couldn't lie straight in bed.
Narcissist and sociopath are the same thing (but there are 'professionals' who say not) and their inability to question their own behaviour or admit their fault are the easiest way to identify them. No matter the cost just walk away, is my advice.
@@umvhu Yes, the sociopath or further psychopath is the more unhinged versions, whereas the narcissist can blend into their environment and generally last longer stalking prey eating their supply slowly
I think the best distinction I've heard is that a narcissist reacts and a sociopath/psychopath premeditates. I think narcissists are the byproduct of unfortunate circumstances, the culture, and perhaps some of their DNA, but I suspect psychopaths are just born and have no ability to empathize, and navigate the world accordingly.
Yeah that makes sense now. Leone had a shocking upbringing
Haha lived with one for years. Unfortunately a sibling.😢
Hey Mad, they are everywhere. But still I want to wish you, the missus and the kids a merry safe chrissy. Chur from Melbourne Australia 😊😊
@debramage739 the same goes across the ditch to you & your team too Debs xxx
My daughter is going through this right now thank you for sharing
So is my daughter.
I am sorry to hear that. It is a tough spot to be in. I hope everything works out for you and your daughters.
I just had my narcissistic partner of 7 years and 2 children sleep with another male 2 days ago. It hurts but could be a blessing in disguise.
I've known one. It was horrible being with her..
I was married to one.could spin the truth on a dime
I had two of them but one has child with me i can't just let my x be unfortunately but I feel your story
I purchased two tickets to a Ry Cooder concert.
The night of his concert, my girlfriend and I had a disagreement. Over sex or the lack thereof.😢 in a fit of rage, she tore the tickets in half. 😮
The moral of the story? Adopt tact. 😂😂
Oh no. Missing Ryh Cooder. Now that's a sin
@thebrocheckclub1777 You remind me of him. 🙂
We both love slide guitar that's for sure
He can also laugh at himself. Priceless. 😂
Had our family pulled apart by a narcissis . They always know best . Nothing is never their fualt. They will never ever take responsibility for what they have done or own being out of line . Its soul destroying watching what they do to thier victims. Our family will never be the same again . There are grand kids involved. Its taken a long time for me to excepted it all.
It is tragic mate. I am thankful none of my kids have got involved with one.
I know only too well unfortunately. Great vlog, thanks bro.
My bestie married one, we got her out after a year of marriage. We had to show her and she got it.😊 And a bil, 3 failed marriages, doesn't see his kids or grandkids, compulsive gambler, still owes us alot of money as we have bailed him out. And a mysongist racist 🙄
Farrrk Deb. Sounds like a right charmer
@thebrocheckclub1777 he is Clay, but we still spend time with him. My hubby acknowledged all but still his brother.
Ello ello bro..that's one thing I never did was have a filter 😂, Ill say it makes you look fat or dosnt suit you, I dont care who you are Ill speak freely to a male or female, my whole family is shameless and filterless😂.
I dated a shelia years ago now Emily in wellington I met her at a Halloween party, in those years I was Extremely Vampyric and drank blood,. She was a cutter so I had free blood on tap so to speak.
Anyways we ended up dating and whilst I was working and shouting drinks etc she was amazing,
The minute she got a job at Dream Girls a brothel and she started making more money then me she changed..
I never slept with her ever I had no attraction and she did sex for a job so not thanks.
But she got evil,.told me noone wanted me around,.told me to off myself,she went from this fun goth chick to this evil crazy shelia.
I tell I've never dated since that and never will again,.she almost drove me to something worse then Suicide.
I was already in a bad headspace then and that almost pushed me over the edge.
Nowadays Im living my best life happily single.
Leone and Emily and others like that dont understand the damage they can cause men,
Much love mate
Dam bro. That's a hell of a way to get put off women. Vampire drinking blood and she was a cutter...sounds like a symbiotic relationship of sorts. There are some beautiful caring women out there bro. You have to trust yourself, not the woman. Get involved with another and trust yourself if it goes wrong that you will take care of yourself and be OK.
@@thebrocheckclub1777 +Yeah mate I was a odd ball not gonna lie lol,
I've never really been one to be interested in relationships sexual or not..
I just gave it a go to make people happy I think..
I'm definitely a Introvert moreso a happy loner lol.
But yeah in that time I really believed I was half Vampyre and needed blood to live,
These days I realize I was in a delusion 😂.
Appreciate the content mate, much love
Love your work clay, I wonder how leonie is going today
Not sure and hopefully our paths never cross again.
Totally understand had a horrible bastard like that when I was young 👍🏻🏴
Always be weary of the hairy lasso😜
Geez my comment disappeared
+hate that aye..had that happen on the UA-cams a few times..have a blessed week
What I said was, tripping up a narcissist is a win for freedom. They thrive on controll and will destroy your life, but only if you let them
Me too. Sucks
It happens to me, too.
I replied to this comment with my original comment and even that has gone. FUYT
Well said
Far out bro that sounds absolutely diabolical, pray I never up end up with a narcissist ay I'd loose my mind
Do you know the anima archetype? Sounds like it was using Leonie as a symbol in your dream.
Could be or might just be because I was going through old photos of my days in Germany the night before.
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Gotcha. That's def going to be a factor. The part I found interesting about your story was when you talked about Leonie and the nice meal and night you had together before everything came back to a confusing and challenging muddle. It reminded me of how interactions with our anima projected onto woman in the world can be pretty profound and beautiful and leave strong lasting impressions. It also reminds me how it is challenging projecting this inner archetype onto woman we know and interact with in the world, who may fulfil certain aspects but struggle in others, and how there can be a real instability in such a process of anima projection being maintained long-term and vice-versa for us them and the animus our inner masculine women project upon us. Connecting deeply with our anima in our dreams can be very fulfilling. It reminds me of the story of the Helen of Troy and how men set out and go to war over her, and aspects of Aphrodite, the divine feminine being projected by men onto physical woman and how we can blindly chase after them in the world, and not grasp the anima internally in our inner spiritual world.
I chatted to chat gpt about the above paragraph --
You've touched on some good points. The anima and animus projections onto people in the world, especially those we form close connections with, can indeed be both beautiful and destabilizing. The anima, when projected, can illuminate qualities of vulnerability, creativity, and receptivity in others, leading to moments of deep connection like the one you described with Leonie. These moments can feel transformative, as if something transcendent is being shared.
However, as you pointed out, the projection is not stable-it can shift, revealing contradictions or bringing confusion. The anima or animus may fulfill certain needs or desires but fail to completely embody the idealized qualities we project onto them. This dissonance can lead to disillusionment, particularly when expectations are unmet or when we expect others to fulfill these deeper, archetypal roles.
Your reference to Helen of Troy is powerful as well. The way she was idealized and projected onto, sparking immense conflict, illustrates how the anima, as a collective archetype, can be externalized in ways that obscure its true meaning. Instead of cultivating the anima within-the feminine principle as an inner force guiding us toward creativity, intuition, and spiritual growth-many men in mythology, as well as in modern life, project these qualities onto physical women. The outer chase for the ideal can mask the need for the inner work of integrating the anima and connecting with the divine feminine within.
In dreams, however, the anima offers us an opportunity to confront and integrate those projections, allowing us to connect more fully with this powerful inner archetype. When we work consciously with these dreams, rather than chasing the external, we gain access to deeper wisdom and a sense of oneness with the flow of life.
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Have a happy, fun day Mr. Tall Stories, and take care of yourself! And your Anima, too! :) Warmest, Mossy.
Ty
I reckon It's all put in our path to help us learn and experience diff scenarios, I've been out with some chicks that were bat shit crazy. The elusive furry magnet can us blokes in a power of shit 😂 stay safe.
Wow I wish I could say that happened to me great story but it would have been very strange thinking that you were losing your mind luckily you got out of it except maybe the intimacy part. I always thought I was a bit of an ugly duckling and I didn’t have any one to tell me what to do so I didn’t know how to approach girls. I think I was 18 when I broke my virginity with my sisters best friend I think she felt sorry for me Ha Ha 🤣🤣 hope you guys don’t mind me sharing that if anything it could be a bit of a laugh 🤭 😂 . But things got a bit better after that but I rushed into getting married not long after that not too here someone else that only lasted 3 years the only good thing to come out of it is my son we had together he’s a fine young man now with 5 off his own kids. I did remarry 10 years after that and still together till this day. I guess I got lucky. All the best clay hope you didn’t mind me sharing that part of my life. 🙏🤠Colin 😘🤭😂🍻
Thanks for sharing, Colin. Sounds like you’ve had a wild ride!
@@thebrocheckclub1777 Yeah mate seems like a long time ago now cheers buddy ☕️☕️😘
chur chur bro.we live and learn.
❤
Dodged a bullet, id say. Good chat 👍
Yeah bro, she was a bit of a handful.
Yikes....!
It’s demonic.
Thank you for this one.... 🪽😇🪽