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I lament that this beautiful, empathic , promising young man had to spend most of his life behind bars after dealing with a huge amount of trauma inflicted since early childhood. I hope that he and his brother get soon the chance to experience life as free and happy individuals.
I empathise with what they endured, but they killed their parent’s. Many grow up under far more brutal circumstances & don’t take that route. Sentimentalising the brothers doesn’t alter the reality & horror of what they did.
@@michelleb3698 It's not sentimentalizing, it's being compassionate, merciful and understanding. I doubt that there is more brutal circumstances than being so*domised by your own father at age 7 and being denied maternal love .
These young men were definitely very afraid of their parents. Especially their father. Lyle was an adult already and had to obey hes father at all times. Shame this is so sad. I pray they walk free and they deserve it. Their made their life very difficult
Le au distrus viețile! Uitați va pe internet cum arată fața tatălui ,privirea,ochii! Nu mi se pare o privire de om sănătos mintal. Consider că a fost un scelerat !!! Psihopat! Și desigur că familia extinsă in totalitate a avut ceva probleme moștenite genetic. Și cred că abuzurile inimaginabile au fost reale! Și mama indisponibila emoțional Intr o relație toxica de codependenta cu soțul 😢🇦🇩
@jerseygirl615 i dont have time for negative comments. This guys went through hell. But i agree what they did to their parents was cruel. Im sure they regret what they did .But they were punished enough .
@javayna2353 first of all... it happened a couple of times ....he did it as a TRAUMA RESPONSE When they were both little. That is VERY common for abused children .
I don't think these boys should have ever went to prison, after what both their parents kept doing to those boys sexually abusing them, emotionally and physically abusing them. I think they should have probably did a year in a psychiatric hospital got a lot of counseling and then they should have been freed
Ey committed murder and lied about it. Yes they should have gone to prison. The jury did not believe the sexual abuse. Yes there was mental amd physical abuse to all of the family. Kitty started to show her pain. Sad story all around but these guys are guilty of Planning the Murder and trying to get off by adding the sexual abuse to get off.
Lyle's attorney was so calm and patience. I mean, I know Leslie put quite a fight but she was so annoying interrogating Erik, It made him more nervous than the prosecutor.
PLEASE FREE THESE MEN!! THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SENT TO PRISON!!! THEY DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY!! LYLE HAD HAD ENOUGH OF THE ABUSE AND DIDN'T WANT ERIK TO GO THROUGH ANYMORE PAIN!! SHAM ON THIS JURISDICTION FOR NOT LETTING THEIR TRUE STORY COME IN ON THE 3RD TRIAL!!!
They were controlled in Every wsy. Thry couldnt choose their own friends They couldn't choose their own activities They ccoukf not choose their own sports They coukf not choose their own colleges They could not choose their own girlfriends They could not career paths
I cannot get over how some of the jurors could not see what that indicates about the level of abuse those boys went through. & then when a person cannot ‘purge’ that upset or anger, there comes an explosion point.
The parents especially the dad were supposed to protect them and make them feel safe but they denied Both Erik&Lyle any form of childhood/teenage feelings 💜💜
Watching these boys i cant believe how truthfull they were.even though they were abused they still cared for their parents.the boys were the adultsvin that household.
When you are abused, you build trauma bond and the more you are abused the worse your trauma gets and you feel you can not live withut them so you feel you love them. You dont actually love them you love the idea of them. It's all psychology.
These young men’s lives were so overly controlled, beyond human. Their father was like a natzi, Hitler. Compared to my youth at the beach and making my own friends and having a social life. I was seeing the real life of people around me. Abusers isolate their victims.
I pray the new DA is fair and resentence Erik and Lyle to be set free. These were 2 very young men that acted out of being afraid and abused for more than a decade.
Estamos torcendo aqui do Brasil para que eles saiam da prisão, estes rapazes não tiveram outra escolha, não viveram a própria vida, esperam que façam em breve, liberdade para os irmãos Menendez ❤️🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Their maturity was stunted. So brainwashed & controlled that they had to ask their father for everything even as young adults. 21 & you have to do all of that to have 1 friend
No, Jose was not successful. Being ruthless, sacking a whole lot of people just so a company makes more profits is not success. I hope this case highlights that we have a dysfunctional definition of success and we step back and ask, what truly is success?
How could people not believe him ? This is a LIFETIME of PAIN That he did not deserve That Erik did not deserve No one deserves to live in such pain ! 😢😭💔
They blew the parents head off then lied for months it wasn’t them then went on a spending spree using the dead fathers credit card, if it wasn’t for the shrink they would still be living it up, they have no regrets, only regreat is that they got caught open up your eyes
Watching Lyle talk abour everything that happened the week leading up to the murders . You can almost visualuze it. . You can visualize the arguments. Erik falling apart. Lyle running on. Empty hardly sleeping . He had so much on his shoulders .. his guilt .. he felt for not knowing wha had been hapoening . The fear escalating after he threateed to expose jose ... He was trying so hard to protect Erik while trying to keep his own anger in check. You can see his anxiety consume him when he starts to talk about sunday night ... Its all so hard to watch . To see him so vunerable and in so much pain.
If this were just a cover-up for vicious heartless killers and Lyle and Eric weren't abused, then give this guy an oscar, because he is one hell of an actor. THEY NEED TO BE RELEASED NOW. They've paid their dues. Even long before they went to prison.
Not even Oscar awarded actor can act like this, with such emotion, not if they don t do a research, not without acting coaches. It s obvious that they are telling The truth. Aparently IT s hard for some ppl to accept IT. It s easier for The ones that lived similar things.
They killed two persons regardless who evil these parents were. The brothers should be punished for their crimes but not life prison without parole.34-35 years is a long time.
Do you hear his throat sounds? That boy is in physical pain talking about these things, it seems like he wants to start crying out loud. Each word takes a hell of a lot to articulate.
Ignorance. Male jurors refused to believe a father could rape his sons . Back in the 90s . People did not talk about abuse. It was still a "dirty little secret" People had an unrealitistic view of rich families. Some believed that wealthy families don't have problems. Thank God society had woken up from that B.S
I was a teen when this happened i believe their story anyone with brains can see it, if this happened today i bet they wouldnt have called this a mistrial the system is broken😢 i pray they find some kind of peace let them out
Aw poor thing 😢. I kept wondering why he was coughing. Great job judge. Forcing people to testify when they are sick. Exposing a full court of people to it as well 🤬😡 I cannot stand this judge. He should've NEVER been allowed to preside over both trials. He's clearly very pro prosecution .
OF COURSE THEY WILL, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP A HELL OF A LOT LONGER THAN THESE TWO AND THEY’RE DOING VERY WELL. IT MAY TKE SOME TIME BUT I’M SURE THEY’LL SOON CATCH UP. LOL
If they do get out I hope people leave them alone . No interviews or reporters chasing them . I hope they can have peace for the years they have left .
OMG I can only imagine how nightmarish Kitty became once she knew the power was in her hands. Hell on wheels. I wouldn’t have been able to deal with it either. I finally and completely understand how they could both have shot their parents the way they did. I don’t recommend it, as it cost them dearly, but i get it. In their minds, they were killing a female demon and the man that crowned her. I went through something very similar so I get it.
lyle cant express his feelings & imotions like erik ,, this is sad ,, he could’ve stay out of it , bug erik telling him his father was abusing him boiled him ,,, big mistake ,, killing was not a solution but nobody knows what went through those young brothers at that time ,,but i believe they really regretted & they are now way more mature , 34 yrs in jail i think they can let them out of jail now
@Knightrider80sKITT-v4gare you even hearing ursellff😭 !! im actually laughing so hard i cant believe theres idiots ppl like u actually exist!! god damn
Erik was conditioned to pretend nothing happened with his dad. So many dark secrets in their family. I agree with Lyle that if Erik had stood up to his dad like Lyle did when he was younger, there was a greater chance his dad would've stopped molesting him. I'm surprised Erik didn't tell Lyle years before that he was being molested
Lyle clearly had remorse for shooting his mother. He confessed with detail how and why they shot their parents. I believe Lyle told the truth and feared for their lives. Ask yourselves, WWYD if Jose and Kitty were your parents.
Idk if murder was the answer considering they were both old enough to leave and do as they please. They could have left and never looked back. However what they are saying has to be true. They seem they are genuine in telling their story. Like they are 100% going off memory. Nothing rehearsed.
I disagree. In a previous trial, Erik had explained that he had attempted to go to Brown university to live on campus but was forced to go into the California university where he had to live at home. It is hard disobeying your parents especially when they’re abusive and threaten killing you if you run away so that would’ve made it extremely difficult for them to get away. Lyle could get away, however since he’s an amazing brother, he did not want to leave Erik
"Why didn't she just leave?" is a classic question we ask of women who were battered, and it completely ignores the reality of being in an abusive environment. Abusive environments make you feel like you are trapped and cannot leave. Erik also tried to run away when he was 12 and his father caught him and told him "you'll never get away, and if you try to run away again, I will kill you." They felt they did not have the option of just running away at the time.
Free the menendez brother the reason why they killed their parent is they wanted their father stop abusing but their didnt care still abusing but the mom keeps drinking alcoholic stiff
The “father” was the master of all the problems. But the so called mum should have put her kids first. She was selfish,cold,crazy. When your parents are bullying you,you should ghost them and leave. I left at 16 and not looking back
They had nowhere to go he was to powerful with powerful friends in mafia, police , and pedophiles gangs if they left they would of been raped and murdered because their father didn't want his perverted secret out
Gosh this famly.🙏 Jose must have had some story to tell about his life. To control your family to where it is abusive...that comes from personal experiences.
I’m confused if anyone can explain here 2:16:32 Lyle says he told their mom what was going on between Erik and their dad, but when Erik and their mom had their blowup 2:36:28 and he found out their mom knew what was going on between him and their dad they (Lyle and Erik) both were shocked she knew, Lyle said ‘how could you have not done anything’ but didn’t HE tell her? So then she knew bc of Lyle telling her before he talked to their dad?.. am I missing something?
And I don’t know if you noticed, but when Lyle explains it, he says that kitty said Erik was lying and then when Erick testifies that they were shocked when they found out it’s at that point she tells eric she knew all long not sure if that makes sense
You prepare this new friend which is a "training" inorder to understand your father's behaviors , and the type of life you lived?? Lyle's life has been nothing but control and abuse. Donovan needed to 🏃
This man is beautiful educated classy sexy and has finesse more than his control obsessed father ever could have been hes also able to smile above everything hes been through! Id marry him love to this handsome beautiful guy free them they have been tbrough hell let thrm out lyle hit me up
seeing the pics of these young men with their family, how they sparkle, definatly tells me God is looking after them, and God help those who helped put them in jail
i totally understand how they came to that point and i do believe that IN THAT MOMENT they felt threatened BUT what i do not understand is how they arranged their parents funeral and went on a spending spree and it took them 7 months until arrested ….
They got a hold of their old attorney Leslie Abramson and she does not want anything to do with Eric or Lyle or anything about the case what does that tell you.. we're talking about 35 years later😅😅😅😅
@JuliePearson-hp9qt no she doesn't.. she just recently had an interview about the resentencing.. she said I have no comment.. I am no longer involved with the case.. and I want nothing to do with the brothers.. sorry it is what it is
Well that's just simply not true. Did you even watch the little 30 second clip? She flat out says they have attorney/client privilege and that any tv series that were made about them were bullshit.
good they let him wear it ,, this a nice thing from the court , inmean nobody knew he wear a wig from his family & friends other than his mother & father ,,for this reason i felt sorry for him ,, dont laugh at him ,, you might loose your hair as well someday ,, you dont want ppl laughs at you for natural or medical or stressful reason
Dam smh. Give them a foot they take a mile, they gave them life it could’ve been worse like the death penalty. So what about all the other unstable murders with life sentences, what make these thugs so special?
If if wasn’t for their parents doing the horrific acts they did to them in the first place, they would NOT be in this situation that they are in right now xx
@@angelarock5272EXACTLY! Netflix made them both look awful. I remember this trial going on, and when I was watching “Monsters” I couldn’t believe just how bad they made them look! It was all wrong. Just my opinion.
No. Only bc it's so gruesomely detailed that I can't imagine a young man could make it up without a single hesitation like he did. Remember Amber heard on the stand? Compare the two. Plus in the 90's it would have been unheard of to mention unspeakable acts between a father and son. They added so many details that would have been unnecessary ultimately. I imagine a lie would have been much more vague.
I agree, he was the reason everything happened. He might have told Lyle a false story, and after the crime, he freaked out, trying to save himself by throwing Lyle under the bus. He went to Dr. Ozil and shared all the details of the crime, especially the part about reloading the gun. I suspect Erik might have instructed Lyle to reload the gun and shoot his mom, as he was the one who first went to car and handled lyle the pieces to reload the gun . From what I know, Erik eventually confessed to Dr. Ozil. This happened after a detective visited him a few days earlier, informing him that a newspaper was about to publish a story suggesting Lyle was a suspect in the crime. It’s also strange how Dr. Ozil called Lyle, it was like Erik and dr.ozil wanted to make trap to lyle , which adds another layer of confusion to the situation.
They both have great skills in helping society helping ..Erik helps the sick and does fantastic artwork have you seen some of his work (both of theirs) achievements and helping people whom have gone through similar situations to theirs including mine 💜😊 Lyle achieved his degree in fact in June/July 2024 😊😊 I am So proud of them even though I have never write or met them 😊😊
I gotta tell you I haven’t had long or even moderate phone conversations with a family member in forever. Maybe too much communication was the problem 🤔
They killed their parents they had plenty of resources to get help instead they murdered maybe 31yrs is enough time if they are telling the truth but we will never know because the parents are not here to hear their side
@@RitaLemus-w1g they did enough to Let the rest of the world speak for them. Even then, during this trial, there was no ONE person who could say there were good people. And now we know for sure Menendez was a f*** pedophile.
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I lament that this beautiful, empathic , promising young man had to spend most of his life behind bars after dealing with a huge amount of trauma inflicted since early childhood. I hope that he and his brother get soon the chance to experience life as free and happy individuals.
I empathise with what they endured, but they killed their parent’s. Many grow up under far more brutal circumstances & don’t take that route. Sentimentalising the brothers doesn’t alter the reality & horror of what they did.
@@michelleb3698 It's not sentimentalizing, it's being compassionate, merciful and understanding. I doubt that there is more brutal circumstances than being so*domised by your own father at age 7 and being denied maternal love .
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They have been in prison since they were born, truthfully. Sad and absolutely heartbreaking. S.J.M.
Doesn’t bare thinking about how those boys have survived 35 years in prison. The fact they were separated for the first 22 years is disgraceful
Not only they were sexually abused they were tortured.wake up and smell the roses.
im mean really!
im mean really!
@@frankgiannotti9419 murdered and lied about it!!
100% it's a shame the judge didn't see it he was probably their father friend
@@JuliePearson-hp9qt Yes 💯
Lyle’s voice is so relaxing I could cry! 😭
"When he whispered about water"!
He was sick here
I know
@@user-gb5ff7gj1m😢
I know
These young men were definitely very afraid of their parents. Especially their father. Lyle was an adult already and had to obey hes father at all times. Shame this is so sad. I pray they walk free and they deserve it. Their made their life very difficult
Le au distrus viețile! Uitați va pe internet cum arată fața tatălui ,privirea,ochii! Nu mi se pare o privire de om sănătos mintal. Consider că a fost un scelerat !!! Psihopat! Și desigur că familia extinsă in totalitate a avut ceva probleme moștenite genetic. Și cred că abuzurile inimaginabile au fost reale! Și mama indisponibila emoțional Intr o relație toxica de codependenta cu soțul 😢🇦🇩
@monicadragan6837 i dont understand 🙉😊
O when they killed their parents, they were free and didnt have to be afraid...so why lie?? Murders and liars!!
@jerseygirl615 i dont have time for negative comments. This guys went through hell. But i agree what they did to their parents was cruel. Im sure they regret what they did .But they were punished enough .
Lyle was the only adult in that house.only one protecting his brother.
He was sexually assaulting Eric too.
@javayna2353 first of all... it happened a couple of times ....he did it as a TRAUMA RESPONSE When they were both little. That is VERY common for abused children .
Crazy
@@javayna2353 he was literally 8 when he did that. A child.
@@javayna2353do you even know what cocsa is? no ofc you don't cuz if you did you wouldnt be writing this ignorant cooment
I don't think these boys should have ever went to prison, after what both their parents kept doing to those boys sexually abusing them, emotionally and physically abusing them. I think they should have probably did a year in a psychiatric hospital got a lot of counseling and then they should have been freed
Look at Gypsy Rose . But she was a girl and poor, so a few years in jail instead of first degree murder without parole was enough in her case….🙄
Ey committed murder and lied about it. Yes they should have gone to prison. The jury did not believe the sexual abuse. Yes there was mental amd physical abuse to all of the family. Kitty started to show her pain. Sad story all around but these guys are guilty of Planning the Murder and trying to get off by adding the sexual abuse to get off.
Lyle's attorney was so calm and patience. I mean, I know Leslie put quite a fight but she was so annoying interrogating Erik, It made him more nervous than the prosecutor.
He got sassy with her a few times too . I think he was exhausted and just wanted it all to stop . Leslie was a fighter for him though .
i hope to god they both get justice and free released
I do too 😊
The judge trying to pressure him to testify in his own murder case while he’s sick. SMH
The judge appears to be somewhat of a sadist- I am actually surprised he gave him a break at all, whilst he was sick
Praying they are released!! 🙏✝️🙏
Me too ❤
AMEN TO THAT!
Amen
And live victorious & peacefully in Jesus name
❤❤❤❤❤
So are their wives.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
I can’t take the pain what he is saying and feeling in this moment of his life it’s just agony I feel love for him ❤
Me too❤️💔😭
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😂😂😂😂😂
He just wanted to protect his brother 😢
He is so softly spoken. He has such a soft heart after such a hard life ❤😢
no one protected these boys its heartbreaking, and look what they are doing to them...some sick people
Regarding Donovan-
“He was my closest friend…ever.” “I loved him.” That broke my heart.😔💔
Lyle has a very soothing voice. Peaceful ♥️
yes, and deed!🥰
Your so sick !!
@@LadynycLiberty-o3q none of your business!
@@LadynycLiberty-o3q stop bothering me!
@Eda-fs5pg my comment worked get help
PLEASE FREE THESE MEN!! THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SENT TO PRISON!!! THEY DIDN'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY!! LYLE HAD HAD ENOUGH OF THE ABUSE AND DIDN'T WANT ERIK TO GO THROUGH ANYMORE PAIN!! SHAM ON THIS JURISDICTION FOR NOT LETTING THEIR TRUE STORY COME IN ON THE 3RD TRIAL!!!
I need them to get a retrial, these poor boys deserve another chance at life
I realised that Lyle kept reffering to Jose as "my dad" and "his (Eriks) dad" at the same time like they were 2 different ppl which makes sense.
Great acting,coached hes a psychopath nasty freakish liar !
How sad that as a young man Lyle wasn’t able to just choose his own friends, they needed to pass a Jose interview test! 😢
They were controlled in Every wsy.
Thry couldnt choose their own friends
They couldn't choose their own activities
They ccoukf not choose their own sports
They coukf not choose their own colleges
They could not choose their own girlfriends
They could not career paths
I cannot get over how some of the jurors could not see what that indicates about the level of abuse those boys went through. & then when a person cannot ‘purge’ that upset or anger, there comes an explosion point.
@dimitrabouzalas3090 💯💯💯💯
Exactly
But they choose and planned to shoot them
@Knightrider80sKITT-v4g they did not plan to shoot them
They snapped . The fear and paranoia pushed them too far
The only thing they are guilty of is loving there parents that made them suffer, in pain they didn’t ask for.
The parents especially the dad were supposed to protect them and make them feel safe but they denied Both Erik&Lyle any form of childhood/teenage feelings 💜💜
@@angelarock5272BS
Free the boys immediately.if they were the Menendez girls they would not be in jail.Release them immediately.
Exactly 💯 💯 💯 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Watching these boys i cant believe how truthfull they were.even though they were abused they still cared for their parents.the boys were the adultsvin that household.
When you are abused, you build trauma bond and the more you are abused the worse your trauma gets and you feel you can not live withut them so you feel you love them. You dont actually love them you love the idea of them. It's all psychology.
These young men’s lives were so overly controlled, beyond human. Their father was like a natzi, Hitler.
Compared to my youth at the beach and making my own friends and having a social life. I was seeing the real life of people around me.
Abusers isolate their victims.
He had sinusitis and a fever this day and woke up dizzy and with pyrexia but they made him speak anyway 😢
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Thst was the drugs he was on after affects plus the guillt of what he and his myrdering brother done
The WORLD can't wait to hug you!!!
I pray the new DA is fair and resentence Erik and Lyle to be set free. These were 2 very young men that acted out of being afraid and abused for more than a decade.
Not going to happen, they won’t get out and don’t deserve to either
Estamos torcendo aqui do Brasil para que eles saiam da prisão, estes rapazes não tiveram outra escolha, não viveram a própria vida, esperam que façam em breve, liberdade para os irmãos Menendez ❤️🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Their maturity was stunted. So brainwashed & controlled that they had to ask their father for everything even as young adults. 21 & you have to do all of that to have 1 friend
No, Jose was not successful. Being ruthless, sacking a whole lot of people just so a company makes more profits is not success. I hope this case highlights that we have a dysfunctional definition of success and we step back and ask, what truly is success?
Sounds like the diddler it's all so sad I believe them always have I was a teen when this happened remember this clearly I was shocked at the verdict😢
My god his voice is so relaxing. It literally makes me want to sleep 😴
If they were abused as kids then surely they aren't guilty of murder ? If its proved they were abused then they should be released.
There's no "if"
They WERE SEVERELY abused 💔
How could people not believe him ?
This is a LIFETIME of PAIN
That he did not deserve
That Erik did not deserve
No one deserves to live in such pain ! 😢😭💔
They blew the parents head off then lied for months it wasn’t them then went on a spending spree using the dead fathers credit card, if it wasn’t for the shrink they would still be living it up, they have no regrets, only regreat is that they got caught open up your eyes
And Lyle 🤍
@daraojo-j3o of course Lyle 💔😢
Watching Lyle talk abour everything that happened the week leading up to the murders . You can almost visualuze it. . You can visualize the arguments. Erik falling apart. Lyle running on. Empty hardly sleeping . He had so much on his shoulders .. his guilt .. he felt for not knowing wha had been hapoening . The fear escalating after he threateed to expose jose ...
He was trying so hard to protect Erik while trying to keep his own anger in check.
You can see his anxiety consume him when he starts to talk about sunday night ...
Its all so hard to watch . To see him so vunerable and in so much pain.
If this were just a cover-up for vicious heartless killers and Lyle and Eric weren't abused, then give this guy an oscar, because he is one hell of an actor. THEY NEED TO BE RELEASED NOW. They've paid their dues. Even long before they went to prison.
Not even Oscar awarded actor can act like this, with such emotion, not if they don t do a research, not without acting coaches. It s obvious that they are telling The truth. Aparently IT s hard for some ppl to accept IT. It s easier for The ones that lived similar things.
@@Nic-b9lthey were having an incestuous relationship with each other and conspired to kill their parents for the money.
They never ever should have been locked 😢up
look whos talking abt harming children god stfu
you got that right!
They killed two persons regardless who evil these parents were. The brothers should be punished for their crimes but not life prison without parole.34-35 years is a long time.
I agree!
Do you hear his throat sounds? That boy is in physical pain talking about these things, it seems like he wants to start crying out loud. Each word takes a hell of a lot to articulate.
Please release these brothers. Omg just unbelievable. Feel so much hurt for them they should be free!
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How on earth could those male jurors not see that what they did was self defence!!!! FFS!!!! 🤬😡😡😡🤬😡🤬
Ignorance. Male jurors refused to believe a father could rape his sons .
Back in the 90s .
People did not talk about abuse. It was still a "dirty little secret"
People had an unrealitistic view of rich families.
Some believed that wealthy families don't have problems.
Thank God society had woken up from that B.S
Because the judge was biased , I bet a friend of their father's
I was a teen when this happened i believe their story anyone with brains can see it, if this happened today i bet they wouldnt have called this a mistrial the system is broken😢 i pray they find some kind of peace let them out
Sad that he had Fever here 💔
Aw poor thing 😢. I kept wondering why he was coughing.
Great job judge. Forcing people to testify when they are sick. Exposing a full court of people to it as well 🤬😡
I cannot stand this judge. He should've NEVER been allowed to preside over both trials. He's clearly very pro prosecution .
When he read the letter he wrote to his mom i teared up
Poor Lyle, trusting the very man who destroyed his self esteem 😓😓😓
Pls free them already 🙏
My Loves, everything will b over soon and we can't wait to hug you with all the love we can give u both! Love you Lyle and Eryk!!!!!!
They won’t even know how to operate like real people after they get out. It’s very sad
They'll learn
OF COURSE THEY WILL, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP A HELL OF A LOT LONGER THAN THESE TWO AND THEY’RE DOING VERY WELL. IT MAY TKE SOME TIME BUT I’M SURE THEY’LL SOON CATCH UP. LOL
If they do get out I hope people leave them alone . No interviews or reporters chasing them . I hope they can have peace for the years they have left .
OMG I can only imagine how nightmarish Kitty became once she knew the power was in her hands. Hell on wheels. I wouldn’t have been able to deal with it either. I finally and completely understand how they could both have shot their parents the way they did. I don’t recommend it, as it cost them dearly, but i get it. In their minds, they were killing a female demon and the man that crowned her. I went through something very similar so I get it.
lyle cant express his feelings & imotions like erik ,, this is sad ,, he could’ve stay out of it , bug erik telling him his father was abusing him boiled him ,,, big mistake ,, killing was not a solution but nobody knows what went through those young brothers at that time ,,but i believe they really regretted & they are now way more mature , 34 yrs in jail i think they can let them out of jail now
Free them now🙏🏻
AMEN TO THAT!
The way he says "my brother" 🥺
Free the menendez brothers
Jill has a sweet voice , she is so calm
Shes a retard
was this when Lyle was feeling ill and didn't want to testify, but the judge made him anyways?
He looks pretty sick
Yes
Judge was biased they never stood a chance with him
Yes he was sick and had a fever .
02:41:32 Never say they didn't consider "just leaving"
Exactly, they could of ran away they weren’t in danger, the only ppl in danger was the parents
@Knightrider80sKITT-v4g I suggest you watch the expert testimonies to understand their mindsets. Dr John Conte is a good one.
@Knightrider80sKITT-v4gare you even hearing ursellff😭 !! im actually laughing so hard i cant believe theres idiots ppl like u actually exist!! god damn
@3:55:45
You can see the panic cone over him 😭😭😭😭
Hi there love ❤️ from Uk 🇬🇧
Erik was conditioned to pretend nothing happened with his dad. So many dark secrets in their family. I agree with Lyle that if Erik had stood up to his dad like Lyle did when he was younger, there was a greater chance his dad would've stopped molesting him. I'm surprised Erik didn't tell Lyle years before that he was being molested
His father told Erik he would kill Lyle if he told him
This woman questioning him sounds more like a shrink, than an attorney
Lyle clearly had remorse for shooting his mother. He confessed with detail how and why they shot their parents. I believe Lyle told the truth and feared for their lives. Ask yourselves, WWYD if Jose and Kitty were your parents.
@@SunShine-kd6td call the cops
😂@@YoDaddyIsMe
Jose controlled the Lyle life, even as an adult
Idk if murder was the answer considering they were both old enough to leave and do as they please. They could have left and never looked back. However what they are saying has to be true. They seem they are genuine in telling their story. Like they are 100% going off memory. Nothing rehearsed.
I think so too.
I disagree. In a previous trial, Erik had explained that he had attempted to go to Brown university to live on campus but was forced to go into the California university where he had to live at home. It is hard disobeying your parents especially when they’re abusive and threaten killing you if you run away so that would’ve made it extremely difficult for them to get away. Lyle could get away, however since he’s an amazing brother, he did not want to leave Erik
"Why didn't she just leave?" is a classic question we ask of women who were battered, and it completely ignores the reality of being in an abusive environment. Abusive environments make you feel like you are trapped and cannot leave. Erik also tried to run away when he was 12 and his father caught him and told him "you'll never get away, and if you try to run away again, I will kill you." They felt they did not have the option of just running away at the time.
Leave and go where? No money, no job, never independent, never taught how to live on their own.
@@beatlesnU2fan0526 welp I can’t argue there I was once in that situation it took me almost two years. Good point
Free the menendez brother the reason why they killed their parent is they wanted their father stop abusing but their didnt care still abusing but the mom keeps drinking alcoholic stiff
Not to mention, she molested Lyle. She had him get in bed with her and touch her all over.
Yes!!!! Set those Brothers free!!!
🇺🇸❤🇺🇸
Free these men.
Free them!!! 😢
Please let them go🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Why?
@@deborahdebcourtharcourt3159 They’ve served their time
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No they did not
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Life without parole was the time they were sentenced to, so they have not served their time
Wow! Aunt Terry really did Lyle dirty. I'm sure she feels guilty now, it's no wonder she's supporting them now... too little too late
Lyle
I love you ❤❤❤
The “father” was the master of all the problems. But the so called mum should have put her kids first. She was selfish,cold,crazy. When your parents are bullying you,you should ghost them and leave. I left at 16 and not looking back
They had nowhere to go he was to powerful with powerful friends in mafia, police , and pedophiles gangs if they left they would of been raped and murdered because their father didn't want his perverted secret out
I’m happy for you ❤️ Not all parents deserve children.
Im in love with Lyle
Same girl same
Gosh this famly.🙏 Jose must have had some story to tell about his life. To control your family to where it is abusive...that comes from personal experiences.
just, wow. 😢
I’m confused if anyone can explain here 2:16:32 Lyle says he told their mom what was going on between Erik and their dad, but when Erik and their mom had their blowup 2:36:28 and he found out their mom knew what was going on between him and their dad they (Lyle and Erik) both were shocked she knew, Lyle said ‘how could you have not done anything’ but didn’t HE tell her? So then she knew bc of Lyle telling her before he talked to their dad?.. am I missing something?
I think he means they were shocked she knew the ENTIRE time
And I don’t know if you noticed, but when Lyle explains it, he says that kitty said Erik was lying and then when Erick testifies that they were shocked when they found out it’s at that point she tells eric she knew all long
not sure if that makes sense
@@daniellammm it does! Ty
You prepare this new friend which is a "training" inorder to understand your father's behaviors , and the type of life you lived?? Lyle's life has been nothing but control and abuse. Donovan needed to 🏃
This man is beautiful educated classy sexy and has finesse more than his control obsessed father ever could have been hes also able to smile above everything hes been through! Id marry him love to this handsome beautiful guy free them they have been tbrough hell let thrm out lyle hit me up
I wanna kiss thst rock hard body of yours
seeing the pics of these young men with their family, how they sparkle, definatly tells me God is looking after them, and God help those who helped put them in jail
😢😢
te amo lyle
19:15 What happened there?
He asked for water.
See how he recovers after saying he was leaning against the wall after the killings ,like its such lies and so evil
i totally understand how they came to that point and i do believe that IN THAT MOMENT they felt threatened BUT what i do not understand is how they arranged their parents funeral and went on a spending spree and it took them 7 months until arrested ….
That's because that very night they waited for the police to come and nobody came , so in fear the body just into therapy till they were caught
Como se enteraba José de algunas cosas de Lyle,en este caso como.supo que dormía en el hall? Quien le informaba?
3:53:57 🩷
FREE THEM
Why didn’t his brother and him leave? I did. My mother was controlling over my life. His father was about money money money.
They literally explain why, they considered it
I think the parents would’ve hired someone to track them down if they ran away
Look up survivorship bias please.
They got a hold of their old attorney Leslie Abramson and she does not want anything to do with Eric or Lyle or anything about the case what does that tell you.. we're talking about 35 years later😅😅😅😅
Yeah she’s retired
She retired, she calls them regularly on the phone keep up
@JuliePearson-hp9qt no she doesn't.. she just recently had an interview about the resentencing.. she said I have no comment.. I am no longer involved with the case.. and I want nothing to do with the brothers.. sorry it is what it is
Well that's just simply not true. Did you even watch the little 30 second clip? She flat out says they have attorney/client privilege and that any tv series that were made about them were bullshit.
@@Barbara-b8yshe literally did not say I want nothing to do with the brothers you're just saying words that aren't true
They let him have his hair piece for court?
good they let him wear it ,, this a nice thing from the court , inmean nobody knew he wear a wig from his family & friends other than his mother & father ,,for this reason i felt sorry for him ,, dont laugh at him ,, you might loose your hair as well someday ,, you dont want ppl laughs at you for natural or medical or stressful reason
Why wouldn't they let him wear it?
Dam smh. Give them a foot they take a mile, they gave them life it could’ve been worse like the death penalty. So what about all the other unstable murders with life sentences, what make these thugs so special?
Watch the trial... That will answer your question
If if wasn’t for their parents doing the horrific acts they did to them in the first place, they would NOT be in this situation that they are in right now xx
@@barbaraayarza5352🫶
@@angelarock5272EXACTLY! Netflix made them both look awful. I remember this trial going on, and when I was watching “Monsters” I couldn’t believe just how bad they made them look! It was all wrong. Just my opinion.
@@gwen08gI’m sure their parents looked a lot worse after they face was blown off
Who is this Aunt Terry. Why was he always there. Why didn’t she see how weird his father was talking to him?
I believe he means his aunt Teresita, his fathers sister. Her house was next to his apartment.
I believe he means his aunt Teresita, his fathers sister. Her house was next to his apartment.
His father older sister, she is his godmother, he loved being in her house because she had such a happy family ( Lyle’s words )
48:09 ❤
Lesgo
Could it be possible that Erik made up his story to Lyle to get him mad enough to help commit the murders?
i don't think so since he had the traits of an abused person.
there is too much corroborating evidence of the abuse
No definitely not
No. Only bc it's so gruesomely detailed that I can't imagine a young man could make it up without a single hesitation like he did. Remember Amber heard on the stand? Compare the two.
Plus in the 90's it would have been unheard of to mention unspeakable acts between a father and son. They added so many details that would have been unnecessary ultimately. I imagine a lie would have been much more vague.
I agree, he was the reason everything happened. He might have told Lyle a false story, and after the crime, he freaked out, trying to save himself by throwing Lyle under the bus. He went to Dr. Ozil and shared all the details of the crime, especially the part about reloading the gun. I suspect Erik might have instructed Lyle to reload the gun and shoot his mom, as he was the one who first went to car and handled lyle the pieces to reload the gun .
From what I know, Erik eventually confessed to Dr. Ozil. This happened after a detective visited him a few days earlier, informing him that a newspaper was about to publish a story suggesting Lyle was a suspect in the crime. It’s also strange how Dr. Ozil called Lyle, it was like Erik and dr.ozil wanted to make trap to lyle , which adds another layer of confusion to the situation.
Of course he was suicidal 😢
Who will give them a job???
Me
I would. What a question..
Me
A lot of people would give them a job.
They both have great skills in helping society helping ..Erik helps the sick and does fantastic artwork have you seen some of his work (both of theirs) achievements and helping people whom have gone through similar situations to theirs including mine 💜😊
Lyle achieved his degree in fact in June/July 2024 😊😊
I am So proud of them even though I have never write or met them 😊😊
I gotta tell you I haven’t had long or even moderate phone conversations with a family member in forever. Maybe too much communication was the problem 🤔
Were he and Donovan lovers?
No!
They killed their parents they had plenty of resources to get help instead they murdered maybe 31yrs is enough time if they are telling the truth but we will never know because the parents are not here to hear their side
@@RitaLemus-w1g they did enough to Let the rest of the world speak for them. Even then, during this trial, there was no ONE person who could say there were good people. And now we know for sure Menendez was a f*** pedophile.
I wonder if Erik manipulates his brother Lyle. Erik seems creepy.
he is just traumatized...people say i'm creepy cuz i'm a torture survivor
28 years or 35? 🤔