00:08:58 State Opening Statements 00:17:51 Erik Menendez' Opening Satements #CourtTV televised every moment of their first six-month trial in 1993 and YOU can watch it all in our #TrialArchive: www.courttv.com/trials/ca-v-menendez-1993/?itm_campaign=menu
@@vlogsbycammi9136 The parents would have denied the abuse, as abusers do. The fact that 51 witnesses testified that the parents were abusive, and the fact the parents had CP photos of the sons is more than enough evidence. No one said they had the right to kill their parents, but the abuse is a mitigating factor
@@Abby-hf9sx It's despcable to want abuse victims released after being locked up for 35 years for a crime they committed in a state of panic and fear against their lifelong abusers when their brains weren't fully developed yet?? Omg so outrageous (eye roll)
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thank you for uploading this! leslie abramson was such a queen. really a great lawyer. it's a shame that the judge was making her work harder by throwing out the EVIDENCE about erik's abuse (in the second trial). it makes me so ANGRY. erik was 22/23 y.o. here. he has been abused for his whole life and then faced life in prison. he changed one prison for another. such a sad case. makes me sad and angry every time....
Did you forget the fact that he killed his parents? And that the abuse was never proved? Not one person of authority (teachers, social service, medical personnel) ever been around the boys ever mentioned noticing anything suspicious alleging sexual abuse.
@@1995-s8wthe fact they killed their parents has always been there. But, explain this, why did the boys have 50+ witnesses on their behalf but they couldn’t seem to find anyone to defend the parents. Their own family members were witnesses for the boys! They all knew something was weird going on. Even today their family and the dad’s MOM goes and sees the boys. Clearly their character wasn’t that great if their own family didn’t want to defend the parents.
The more I have listened and read about this case, the more I am astounded. The prosecution’s case was weak, full of mistakes and fumbly. The defence case was outstanding. It makes me very suspicious of the judge and jury.
I am a survivor of sexual abuse by my father. I know the constant fear these boys, now men, have endured. It affected my whole life in many different ways...not good. It wasnt until I met an angel of a therapist. I no longer get have panic attacks thanks to her. I thought after my father died it would all go away.wrong, it actually amped up for awhile...if this is true for them I can't even imagine what they have been through. They need to be freed and compensated for their time in prison...😢
Candace, my sister is a victim and I wasn’t aware that I had seen it going on until later, and had my own MINIMAL experiences because I was a loud mouth. Thankfully it was a step figure that was not in our life for very long, but abuse to children creates a wide variety of reactions especially considering the formative years of learning how to function are 0-7. I hope you can ignore the ignorant comments after your truth because the Menendez brothers come from wealth and “stature” that I’m sure the other commenters also have not experienced ❤
I’m a criminologist but I have never came across with someone like Lyle or Eric Menendez. I truly believe that they were abused by their father and covered by their mother l! Definitely not a sociopath but angry , damaged young boys! Eric would never confess his / their crime if it would be premeditated for their inheritance! Also being in prison for 35 years and never had any issues but dedicated their experience to help to others… say it all.
Being from a weird family I am on therapy 18 years.And no SA and nothing near this!Free them!They should walk free in there 30,40 years...Let them now😢
@@whyRuReadingThis418 Gypsy Rose Blanchard Had Her Mother Killed All While Listening To It Happening From The Bathroom . She Conspired To Murder Her Mother , Not To Mention The Only Active Parent She Had & Assisted In The Murder Being Carried Out . Gypsy Rose Served 8 Years Out Of A 10 Year Sentence After Being Found Guilty Of Second Degree Murder . Following The Murder Of Her Mother , Her & Her At The Time Boyfriend , Proceeded To Leave Her Laying Dead In Her Bed While They Got A Hotel Room , Went Out To Eat & Then Went To The State Of Wisconsin In An Attempt To Run From The Law . The Murder Of Gypsys Mother Was Far More Gruesome Than The Murder Of The Menendez Parents As She Was Stabbed More Than 15 Times & Nearly Decapitated . Gypsy Rose , Much Like The Menendez Brothers Had Been Abused For Most Of Her Life For As Long As She Can Remember . What Is Different From Gypsy Rose & The Menendez Brothers ? Is Its Because They Are Men ? Is It Because The Abuse They Endured Was Different ? Or Is It Simply Due To The Fact That In The 80’s-90’s , Men Being Sexually Abused Was Often Overlooked “Because They Dont Have The Right Parts” ? So To Answer Your Question Of Who Has Served Less Time For A Very Similar Crime ? Gypsy Rose Blanchard . I Agree With @Roy-w2o3f In The Statement That The Brothers Should Be Free . If Gypsy Rose Could Be Released , The Menendez Brothers Should Also Be Released .
@@whyRuReadingThis418I believe the brothers shouldn’t have gotten life without possibility of parole especially with all the evidence they had of abuse, yes they should’ve been sentenced for murder but them also being victims shouldn’t have been ignored plus it’s not like the brothers went out killing other people like Dahmer they killed their abusers straight up
Leslie is great. I don't know how those state prosecutors were able to sleep at night. The brothers got screwed, literally and figuratively. Horrific story. Free the brothers.
Judge Weisberg stressed repeatedly that the jury was to have no external influences or bias. The jury was carefully chosen for the primary reason of being not influenced and not biased. Yet, the jury’s verdict was split clearly on male female lines. The males on the jury were unbudging from their guilty verdict - later discovered that they weren’t budging, not because of the evidence, but because they hated Leslie Abramson! I would love to know if Weisberg was aware of this. He emphasised that if any of the jurors noticed bias, they were to inform him. With the long and tedious deliberation of the jury, it seems very unlikely that Weisberg would not have picked up the bias of the male jurors. But HE DID NOTHING! That is gross negligence at best, misconduct more likely. Especially since it was well known that Weisberg himself had an intense dislike for Abramson. He has cost justice, he kept those brothers in prison longer than they ought to have been, and he kept awareness and responsiveness to sa in the dark for decades. I wonder if other children felt they had no one to turn to, and took their own lives? 😭 Judge Weisberg has a lot to answer for, and needs to be brought to justice.
Im reflecting on some comments I read a little while ago, that the parents are being vilified, but they aren’t around to defend themselves. It’s the way Jose treated others: the hundreds of workers he sacked, his family, teachers at the boys schools, the tennis and swimming coaches, and most of all his sons. None of them had a right to defend themselves according to Jose. Karma at its best.
They are cold blooded premeditated murderers. They wouldn't have tried their lame coverup if they had really been sexually abused. They would have cooperated with authorities and thrown themselves on the mercy of the courts. Do you you think they were in imminent danger of their lives as they testified by their parents wielding bowls of ice cream?
I’m sorry, but if what they say is true I would say 30 years should be time served murder is murder but you don’t abuse a little kid from age 6 on and not expect them to be fucked up if what they claimed happen from their father over the years actually happened It’s understandable. It really is. I don’t understand how anybody out there couldn’t think after being sexually abused by their father over and over I don’t understand how anybody couldn’t understand or think that somebody couldn’t snap from that. I see four victims here, not two If you call these brothers evil, I don’t understand how you can’t call a father who molested them over and over and a mother who allowed it innocent and not evil as well
@@GrampiesCorner are you dumb enough to believe that they killed their parents for money? Of course something crazy happened to them, rich kids always want their parents to live long and be protected by them, so I am pretty sure they are victims in this case,
The judge was soo unfair. Yes what they did was wrong. But clearly with everything they were doing proved they sustained mental damage and needed psychological help instead of being imprisoned to indur more abuse.
@@1995-s8wtheir victims??? These men were the actual victims in the situation, it was their parents who abused them mentally, physically and sexually. The parents are no victims.
You do realize they're I'm their 50s now right? They murdered their parents. You shouldn't walk free after a double homicide. Wtf is wrong with you ppl
@jeremypenafangirl that doesn't give anyone the right to murder them then lie to everyone about it, bribe people to lie about their parents, and unremorsefully confess their murders for hopeful fame. That's sick
People that think they are killers and liars need to experience what they experienced for 12 years. In a family with status. Where everything „seems perfect“.
So is this the first day of trial? I just want to watch the very first first day of trial and everything in between to end that was recorded! It’s so hard to find the beginning and all the testimony’s in between. Idk why it’s not uploaded together or even lyals case.
This trial was not done fairly imo. The facts weren’t taken into account as seriously as they should’ve been. Abuse is a real thing. I believe the Menendez brothers and the court/judge/jury really failed them in so many ways. And 2nd trial was just ridiculous with how much stuff was excluded from evidence submitted. Hope the jury and judge live with this fact every single day that they made a huge mistake in their verdict. They got this conviction wrong-1st trial hung jury & 2nd trial guilty. Time to free Erik & Lyle!
Our system is a disgrace because it put 2 brutal murderers away? No. Our system is a disgrace because, at the same time, our system let one other brutal murderer go free on the basis of race and the same type of emotionally-based argument you're making...
These boys were abused IRL. Netflix distorts any story with no care for the victims as long as it makes them money. Kind of silly to assume Netflix is going to keep it accurate when it didn’t even portray the Dahmer story accurately.
bro- netflix show isn’t showing everything perfect most of it wasn’t true , ridiculous how people nowadays are still so closed minded and ruthless, i would do the same thing if i’d be getting abused and s** abused my whole life
If this is how you decipher what information to believe, I am truly sorry for you. Ryan Murphy has been well known for fabricating information and dramatizing for television. I am so scared for the next generations…
Even from these early days Weisberg was obstructing the entire presentation of evidence and explanation. I now see him as one of those people who cultivated a ‘professional, level headed’ persona, but with that persona, he is putting the dagger in, and twisting it.
My dad brutally beat me to a bloody mess almost every day and even manipulated me. He tried to buy my love with money 💰 as I got older. I chose forgiveness and moved on because I chose life and freedom over death and hatred. Instead of killing their parents, they could have chosen to pack their bags 🎒 move out, stay with a friend, and could have sought help along with telling the police about the abuse.
@@1995-s8w Volgens mij ben je Nederlands. Noem me naïef; ik geloof dat deze jongens geen andere uitweg zagen. Hun misbruiker was een zeer geraffineerd mens, bovengemiddeld intelligent. Ze hadden geen schijn van kans naar mijn mening, ze zaten in een steevast web van een vader waar ze veel van hielden en op een voetstuk hadden gezet.
Daarbij: hij was een zeer gerespecteerd man. Uiteraard mocht men hem niet in privé, maar durfde men niet negatief over hem te praten waar hij bij was. Zijn omgeving was intens bang voor hem, laat staan deze twee jongens. Het seksueel misbruik, was niet ‘alledaags’.
Even if they were abused, the trial was to determine whether it was murder or manslaughter, and sadly, all evidence points to murder executed according to plan. Parents may deserve it, they surely did, but the trial was not about them. This said, 35 is a lot, however, I don't see how this new evidence of abuse can change the legal fact that the killing was planned and therefore, still murder.
@@bobbyheenan4061hey bobby heenan, i’ve seen your replies and from what i can tell you’re an asshole who sympathizes with abusers and blames the victims when they finally do something about it. Have a horrible day for years on end, Bobby! ❤
Lyle sat there no remorse what so ever as they discuss the pictures of his parents. Only fake cries on stand. They need to remain in prison. No to these Kim K drama
I am 100 percent on the brothers' side they should've never been separated especially in the sad way that they were and they should've never been sentenced to such horrific life sentences. I feel they should've been freed at the first trial instead of a mistrial. I am absolutely obsessed and in love and in ahh of the both of them. They're parents were terrible parents to them and I find it so beautiful that the two brother's were able to love each other flaws and all I love they're bond especially being as they were never showed how to love the way they loved one another. Please free the Menendez brothers. And shame on all of you who thought that justice was served.!!!! My name is Maria Carter and I live in Columbus Ohio and I'd love to be able to talk to the brothers and be there for them and with them.
They didnt claim to have ever been raped until they got locked up not while they were spending thier dead parents money.even if its true they should of called the cops not take justice into thier own hands
@kiajohnson3846 they didn't mention the sexual abuse because back then the stereo type was that these things can only happen to women. They never mention it to Dr orzel because he would report it back to there parents.
@forkborking7 im sorry, what? Erik told Dr. ozel that they killed their parents, Dr. ozel already knew how controlling Jose was. He knew there was more to the story, but the boys couldn't say they got SA cause they were afraid. They made a promise that they shouldn't talk about being SA to anyone cause it was just too upsetting and traumatising, but when Leslie became erik lawyer, erik gained trust for her.
You’re acting like it’s easy to talk about abuse especially something like rape especially being raped by their father I’m sure homosexuality was a taboo back then even rape
God doesn't bless all with good healthy children. I'm a mother of special needs child. This makes me extremely angry with the parents. They have ruined their blessings completely. I really wish they rot in hell for the abuse and torture they brought to their children. Such extremely healthy boys. Its heartbreaking. Its really strange and extremely bad that nobody around got an idea of what's going on with these children. Really white people should think about their family relationships especially the way they raise their children. Seeing a lot of broken families and abuse especially among white people.
If they were capable of plotting, lying, burglaries (valued at $100,000), other odd behaviour as witnessed by ex girlfriends, admitting they were under the impression their father was removing them from his will and then spending money frivolously before they got caught...shows that they are very shrewd and more than capable of an escape plan if they were being abused. At first, I was originally defending that as victims of molestation, as most victims are dependent on their abusers for housing, food etc. However, in this case they already had experience of robbery. If they are capable of deceiving the law or trying to get away with murder they should be punished regardless. What that looks like is for the new jury to make.
Abusers literally build these type of people, what do you expect from them to act like victims and be helpless? If they had committed suicide it would’ve been a different story but the moment victims stand up for themselves and do what the evil they learned from their abusers to their abusers it’s a problem
Abuse of any kind is terrible, especially this type of abuse. But it doesn't allow people to committ multiple counts of premeditated murder and then lie about it to police so they can buy fancy watches, sports cars, and expensive real estate. Prison is exactly where they belong.
@@kirstenwright1974 that asshole commenting thinks their innocent . His dumbass probably wasn’t even born . Doesn’t realize the 2 turds also shot mom , then reloaded and shot her again . Then went shopping for Rolex’s the next day . F em both !
You ppl are so weird. Do you REALLY think murderers should run free amongst the rest of us? Seriously. None of you live in the cities that allow convicts to roam free...
@@HannahNikki-j4n yeah took their parents out while they were sleeping to save their lives. even if the abuse is true, it's not self defense when there is no immediate threat. maybe they could have gotten 2nd degree and been out by now if they just argued they flew into a rage because of abuse and killed them.
@forkborking7 your incorrect about the sleeping part. They weren't sleeping they were watching TV Jose even saw he's son carry the guns and got up, and that's when erik shot his father. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have gone to jail, but 34+ years is enough.
@@nbunyyou must be out of your mind. I’m glad you weren’t on the jury. Hope about call the police. File a report, arrest them. They shot them file they were asleep. It’s all lies. Sit down.
@@GooGooGal316 The "asleep" part truly has nothing to do with this. Their father and mother ABUSED them. There's so much evidence about the abuse. Notes, pictures, relatives, so much. I don't wanna start something with a person that has a thick skull, sorry.
When i see these comments i'm in awe because this world is fill with crazy people y would u release these two boys. Just like how they can do this trust an believe they themselves might be abusers too
Their parents were crazy. Did you listen to the opening statements?! The mother also sounded mentally disturbed, not to mention a pedophile as a father.
Their attorney makes the case for the state against them. That is how guilty they are. They only came up with molestation story AFTER being locked up. They we're probably describing what was happening to them in prison 😂 and lied about it being their parents. They are sick and tried to get away with murdering their parents. Guilty!!!!
@@Badgalvick1abuse is terrible, especially sex abuse, but that doesn't allow people to committ premeditated murder and then lie about it to police so they can buy luxury watches, sports cars and real estate. They're both right where they belong.
@@hannahaslani5192 you sound like word salad Kamala Harris bless your heart. I know this case inside and out. And if you buy their bullshit I have ocean front property to sell you in Idaho 😂
![CA v Lyle Menendez: Opening Statements [Trial Archive]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fUzcSZmBKVs/mqdefault.jpg)
00:08:58 State Opening Statements
00:17:51 Erik Menendez' Opening Satements
#CourtTV televised every moment of their first six-month trial in 1993 and YOU can watch it all in our #TrialArchive:
www.courttv.com/trials/ca-v-menendez-1993/?itm_campaign=menu
This is so cool to watch, thank you for posting
@@CourtTV Lyle testimony
This trial was not fair, they denied all evidence of abuse. A case of serious injustice.
anyone who believes these nonsense stories of abuse must believe anything.
This trial did include evidence of abuse. It ended in a mistrial; it was the second trial in which the abuse evidence was blocked/limited.
doesn't give u right to kill your parents plus there dead two sides to story. Killing is a crime
@@vlogsbycammi9136 The parents would have denied the abuse, as abusers do. The fact that 51 witnesses testified that the parents were abusive, and the fact the parents had CP photos of the sons is more than enough evidence. No one said they had the right to kill their parents, but the abuse is a mitigating factor
@@vlogsbycammi9136so is molestation of a person’s own 6 year old child.
Judge was a douchebag. He criticized defense for being argumentative yet prosecution was extremely argumentative
Right?!!
I'm glad you noticed this as well!
@@cartergomez5390Luckily people from all over the world are screaming outrage about this despicable judge.
America. It is time to release these victims. Enough is enough.
What a despicable thing to say
@@Abby-hf9sx No. What you meant was ”what a despicable thing to do to these brothers”.
@@lindalundstrom4347 ohhhh brother 🙄 find God
@Abby-hf9sx they should at least have a chance for parole someday. The abuse they suffered was horrendous. LWOP is an injustice here.
@@Abby-hf9sx It's despcable to want abuse victims released after being locked up for 35 years for a crime they committed in a state of panic and fear against their lifelong abusers when their brains weren't fully developed yet?? Omg so outrageous (eye roll)
thank you for uploading this! leslie abramson was such a queen. really a great lawyer. it's a shame that the judge was making her work harder by throwing out the EVIDENCE about erik's abuse (in the second trial). it makes me so ANGRY. erik was 22/23 y.o. here. he has been abused for his whole life and then faced life in prison. he changed one prison for another. such a sad case. makes me sad and angry every time....
Did you forget the fact that he killed his parents? And that the abuse was never proved? Not one person of authority (teachers, social service, medical personnel) ever been around the boys ever mentioned noticing anything suspicious alleging sexual abuse.
She got her ass handed to her in court
@@1995-s8w yea because people who sexually abuse someone usually does it out in public
@@Curtis69213because she’s a woman and women aren’t usually taken serious
@@1995-s8wthe fact they killed their parents has always been there. But, explain this, why did the boys have 50+ witnesses on their behalf but they couldn’t seem to find anyone to defend the parents. Their own family members were witnesses for the boys! They all knew something was weird going on. Even today their family and the dad’s MOM goes and sees the boys. Clearly their character wasn’t that great if their own family didn’t want to defend the parents.
This judge sucked
Life for you ♥️
That judge had it out for the brothers 🤬
@@leilanisunsets1362 sure did
Maybe a pedo himself?
Clearly
These poor brothers have gone through enough, free them, they don't deserve to spend the rest of their lives behind bars!!
sure then while they are parole. they can live in your house
@@13Liberty50They can live in mine!
I'll buy the pizza.
@@graveburgerscan I? 😏
@@XX_truth.Hurts._XXGo away weirdo.
pamela and kuriyama get on my nerves, kuriyama talking abt some “objection!” bro sit down omg🙏
and all pamela do is bring up the photos of the bodies like we get it sit down
The more I have listened and read about this case, the more I am astounded. The prosecution’s case was weak, full of mistakes and fumbly. The defence case was outstanding. It makes me very suspicious of the judge and jury.
Yeah the trials the sentencing nothing was fair all they can do now is to free them
I am a survivor of sexual abuse by my father. I know the constant fear these boys, now men, have endured. It affected my whole life in many different ways...not good. It wasnt until I met an angel of a therapist. I no longer get have panic attacks thanks to her. I thought after my father died it would all go away.wrong, it actually amped up for awhile...if this is true for them I can't even imagine what they have been through. They need to be freed and compensated for their time in prison...😢
They compensated themselves with Rolex watches and flashy cars .
They deserve to be locked up .
@@Theresa89I would be spending like crazy too if my abusers had just died. You’re a horrible person for defending child molesters.
Please they knew they would gain sympathy by playing victim!
Candace, my sister is a victim and I wasn’t aware that I had seen it going on until later, and had my own MINIMAL experiences because I was a loud mouth. Thankfully it was a step figure that was not in our life for very long, but abuse to children creates a wide variety of reactions especially considering the formative years of learning how to function are 0-7. I hope you can ignore the ignorant comments after your truth because the Menendez brothers come from wealth and “stature” that I’m sure the other commenters also have not experienced ❤
Same 😭😭😭 still affects me to this day I been through so much so much in still manage to smile
I’m a criminologist but I have never came across with someone like Lyle or Eric Menendez. I truly believe that they were abused by their father and covered by their mother l! Definitely not a sociopath but angry , damaged young boys! Eric would never confess his / their crime if it would be premeditated for their inheritance! Also being in prison for 35 years and never had any issues but dedicated their experience to help to others… say it all.
Thank you for your comment .
I would love to know how the male jurors felt after the sentencing, and how they are feeling since. 😢
Wow so many objections for opening statement
Being from a weird family I am on therapy 18 years.And no SA and nothing near this!Free them!They should walk free in there 30,40 years...Let them now😢
Just because of your weird family and therapy, you want those killers to go free? xx
I wonder how would Jose the predator justify his sexual abuse if he was in the court. Both parents should've been in this court, not the boys.
Free those men. They aren’t a threat to anyone. It’s gone on long enough
No.
They murdered 2 people. I'd say they are a threat.
They were never a threat but they should be free now
They should free both brothers..Others have done worse and got less time..
who killed both of their parents and did less time? you people are slow
@@whyRuReadingThis418 Gypsy Rose Blanchard Had Her Mother Killed All While Listening To It Happening From The Bathroom . She Conspired To Murder Her Mother , Not To Mention The Only Active Parent She Had & Assisted In The Murder Being Carried Out . Gypsy Rose Served 8 Years Out Of A 10 Year Sentence After Being Found Guilty Of Second Degree Murder .
Following The Murder Of Her Mother , Her & Her At The Time Boyfriend , Proceeded To Leave Her Laying Dead In Her Bed While They Got A Hotel Room , Went Out To Eat & Then Went To The State Of Wisconsin In An Attempt To Run From The Law .
The Murder Of Gypsys Mother Was Far More Gruesome Than The Murder Of The Menendez Parents As She Was Stabbed More Than 15 Times & Nearly Decapitated . Gypsy Rose , Much Like The Menendez Brothers Had Been Abused For Most Of Her Life For As Long As She Can Remember .
What Is Different From Gypsy Rose & The Menendez Brothers ? Is Its Because They Are Men ? Is It Because The Abuse They Endured Was Different ? Or Is It Simply Due To The Fact That In The 80’s-90’s , Men Being Sexually Abused Was Often Overlooked “Because They Dont Have The Right Parts” ?
So To Answer Your Question Of Who Has Served Less Time For A Very Similar Crime ? Gypsy Rose Blanchard .
I Agree With @Roy-w2o3f In The Statement That The Brothers Should Be Free . If Gypsy Rose Could Be Released , The Menendez Brothers Should Also Be Released .
@@whyRuReadingThis418I believe the brothers shouldn’t have gotten life without possibility of parole especially with all the evidence they had of abuse, yes they should’ve been sentenced for murder but them also being victims shouldn’t have been ignored plus it’s not like the brothers went out killing other people like Dahmer they killed their abusers straight up
Leslie is great. I don't know how those state prosecutors were able to sleep at night. The brothers got screwed, literally and figuratively. Horrific story. Free the brothers.
Free Erik and Lyle ❤❤
This is a travesty. Free these poor guys. Their suffering was ongoing and immense. I can’t imagine..,
So not fair!! Let them out it's just stupid that gyspy rose is out of prison and living her life
@@JamieMarue This could make Gypsy Rose a hero in the aftermath😅.
Judge Weisberg stressed repeatedly that the jury was to have no external influences or bias. The jury was carefully chosen for the primary reason of being not influenced and not biased. Yet, the jury’s verdict was split clearly on male female lines. The males on the jury were unbudging from their guilty verdict - later discovered that they weren’t budging, not because of the evidence, but because they hated Leslie Abramson! I would love to know if Weisberg was aware of this. He emphasised that if any of the jurors noticed bias, they were to inform him. With the long and tedious deliberation of the jury, it seems very unlikely that Weisberg would not have picked up the bias of the male jurors. But HE DID NOTHING!
That is gross negligence at best, misconduct more likely. Especially since it was well known that Weisberg himself had an intense dislike for Abramson.
He has cost justice, he kept those brothers in prison longer than they ought to have been, and he kept awareness and responsiveness to sa in the dark for decades. I wonder if other children felt they had no one to turn to, and took their own lives? 😭
Judge Weisberg has a lot to answer for, and needs to be brought to justice.
Leslie is amazing.
Im reflecting on some comments I read a little while ago, that the parents are being vilified, but they aren’t around to defend themselves.
It’s the way Jose treated others: the hundreds of workers he sacked, his family, teachers at the boys schools, the tennis and swimming coaches, and most of all his sons. None of them had a right to defend themselves according to Jose.
Karma at its best.
Off the bat the judge seemed like a jerk. Doesn’t surprise me at all that he even more of a pain in the 2nd trial. He was power hungry.
Justice for Eric and Lyle, should of never been in prison in the first place, these young boys, now men should be freed
They killed their parents for money.
They are cold blooded premeditated murderers. They wouldn't have tried their lame coverup if they had really been sexually abused. They would have cooperated with authorities and thrown themselves on the mercy of the courts. Do you you think they were in imminent danger of their lives as they testified by their parents wielding bowls of ice cream?
I’m sorry, but if what they say is true I would say 30 years should be time served murder is murder but you don’t abuse a little kid from age 6 on and not expect them to be fucked up if what they claimed happen from their father over the years actually happened It’s understandable. It really is. I don’t understand how anybody out there couldn’t think after being sexually abused by their father over and over I don’t understand how anybody couldn’t understand or think that somebody couldn’t snap from that. I see four victims here, not two If you call these brothers evil, I don’t understand how you can’t call a father who molested them over and over and a mother who allowed it innocent and not evil as well
And the DA and the Judge took away that defense. I haven’t a clue how that didn’t violate their constitutional rights?
@@lyndaczika6327 we don’t have constitutional rights anymore. They essentially treat it like toilet paper.
Freedom for Erik Menendez and Lyle Menendez!
Why? Just because the played the I was abused card to fool people like you?!!
@@GrampiesCorner You don’t know what you are talking about bro
@@GrampiesCorneryou don’t believe any abuse victim huh
@@GrampiesCorner Of course this is something an abuse sympathizer would say
@@GrampiesCorner are you dumb enough to believe that they killed their parents for money? Of course something crazy happened to them, rich kids always want their parents to live long and be protected by them, so I am pretty sure they are victims in this case,
The judge was soo unfair. Yes what they did was wrong. But clearly with everything they were doing proved they sustained mental damage and needed psychological help instead of being imprisoned to indur more abuse.
Please let them be free
May they be blessed and be set free. May they heal from their wounds.
Disgusting
What about their wictims?
@@1995-s8wtheir victims??? These men were the actual victims in the situation, it was their parents who abused them mentally, physically and sexually. The parents are no victims.
If the parents were alive, they would deny it all into their graves. So we would never understand why they did it, if they did it.
They must be let free
Thumbs down for the judge
FREE THEM!!!
Free the boys. This judge did not act fair by denying their rights. The police just didn’t want another case fail after the previous failures.
You do realize they're I'm their 50s now right? They murdered their parents. You shouldn't walk free after a double homicide. Wtf is wrong with you ppl
Not the police. It was the District Attorney.
Set them free
How, when they killed two people?
@@1995-s8wone being the one who abused them for years and the other who never stopped it but was completely obsessed with the abuser
@jeremypenafangirl that doesn't give anyone the right to murder them then lie to everyone about it, bribe people to lie about their parents, and unremorsefully confess their murders for hopeful fame. That's sick
@@jls_cbthey’ve been in there for 30 years it’s enough
And they can stay there until they rot @rubyx8350
A lot of you people don't understand how the law works, and it shows...
But Netflix and TikTok said… !
People that think they are killers and liars need to experience what they experienced for 12 years. In a family with status. Where everything „seems perfect“.
How about both can be true at the same time?
@@juneharris2018exactly. They still murdered their parents when they were not in immediate danger etc. that’s murder.
Youre delusional if you don't think they can be both at the same time
Can we see the full trial? Only one video of the brothers speaking.
Look them up they are in parts but the whole trial is there
So is this the first day of trial? I just want to watch the very first first day of trial and everything in between to end that was recorded! It’s so hard to find the beginning and all the testimony’s in between. Idk why it’s not uploaded together or even lyals case.
Click on the description of the video and go to the court tv link and they are in order it’ll say 1,2,3,4 etc.
@@noahharris9452 it's literally all there
Free them. They learned their lesson imo
They are were they belong
Court Tv milking the trial footage with ‘’Monsters’’ soon approaching lol
Can you blame them? This was the first case that CourtTv ever aired! They own the footage
This trial was not done fairly imo. The facts weren’t taken into account as seriously as they should’ve been. Abuse is a real thing. I believe the Menendez brothers and the court/judge/jury really failed them in so many ways. And 2nd trial was just ridiculous with how much stuff was excluded from evidence submitted. Hope the jury and judge live with this fact every single day that they made a huge mistake in their verdict. They got this conviction wrong-1st trial hung jury & 2nd trial guilty. Time to free Erik & Lyle!
Set Erik, and Lyle free!!! What they went through is disgusting. Our system is a disgrace.
Our system is a disgrace because it put 2 brutal murderers away? No. Our system is a disgrace because, at the same time, our system let one other brutal murderer go free on the basis of race and the same type of emotionally-based argument you're making...
@@juneharris2018the people who wanna keep them locked up are 100% abusers
@@juneharris2018 No. Because they were purposely stripped of a defense so the DA at the time could have a “win”after OJ was “acquitted”. Is that fair?
Episode 5 on Netflix says it all….the way they did that episode really captures everything… 😢
Yes keep them locked up for life.
These boys were abused IRL. Netflix distorts any story with no care for the victims as long as it makes them money. Kind of silly to assume Netflix is going to keep it accurate when it didn’t even portray the Dahmer story accurately.
bro- netflix show isn’t showing everything perfect most of it wasn’t true , ridiculous how people nowadays are still so closed minded and ruthless, i would do the same thing if i’d be getting abused and s** abused my whole life
“Netflix and TikTok told me so.”
I give you the state of our nation. 🤣
If this is how you decipher what information to believe, I am truly sorry for you. Ryan Murphy has been well known for fabricating information and dramatizing for television. I am so scared for the next generations…
They need to be released they have done enough time all the witnesses who seen the abused and its just crazy !!!! Just release them ..
Wow that lawyer looks like Glenn close!!!!! 😮
This case should have focused on why it happened on the second trial , I hope they all free soon …. I’ll be out there waiting with a sign 🪧 ❤❤
The lack of nuance in the comment section really scares me… and that’s who is on juries.
Even from these early days Weisberg was obstructing the entire presentation of evidence and explanation.
I now see him as one of those people who cultivated a ‘professional, level headed’ persona, but with that persona, he is putting the dagger in, and twisting it.
I feel bad:(
free the boys.❤
the imposters self-reported
Look how that “beach” in red stares at Leslie at 17:57. Can’t stand that beach
FREE THEM🙏🏻
Who's will? Thats what i want to know.
Poor kids they need to be FREE!!
My dad brutally beat me to a bloody mess almost every day and even manipulated me. He tried to buy my love with money 💰 as I got older. I chose forgiveness and moved on because I chose life and freedom over death and hatred.
Instead of killing their parents, they could have chosen to pack their bags 🎒 move out, stay with a friend, and could have sought help along with telling the police about the abuse.
I get your point, but it’s not always that easy love.
@@josinelansink6345 Yeah, it's not. Money, cars Rolex drugs, money, money money. Not one day work experience. Kilers.
@@1995-s8w Volgens mij ben je Nederlands.
Noem me naïef; ik geloof dat deze jongens geen andere uitweg zagen.
Hun misbruiker was een zeer geraffineerd mens, bovengemiddeld intelligent.
Ze hadden geen schijn van kans naar mijn mening, ze zaten in een steevast web van een vader waar ze veel van hielden en op een voetstuk hadden gezet.
Daarbij: hij was een zeer gerespecteerd man.
Uiteraard mocht men hem niet in privé, maar durfde men niet negatief over hem te praten waar hij bij was.
Zijn omgeving was intens bang voor hem, laat staan deze twee jongens.
Het seksueel misbruik, was niet ‘alledaags’.
Agreed, 100%.
Is this a new trial???
This is the original. I did hear a new trial is coming. New evidence never allowed in or something. A witness had a letter.
1993
No this is from 1993 they are posting stuff from the trial cause the Netflix series is set to release soon
No this is from 1993 they are posting stuff from the trial cause the Netflix show is set to release soon
@@meganwilliams7434 Thankyou
Even if they were abused, the trial was to determine whether it was murder or manslaughter, and sadly, all evidence points to murder executed according to plan. Parents may deserve it, they surely did, but the trial was not about them. This said, 35 is a lot, however, I don't see how this new evidence of abuse can change the legal fact that the killing was planned and therefore, still murder.
I could watch Leslie all day LONG I LOVE HERRRRR!!!!!!
Sounds like the mother was a psycho. 😮
Free them 🙏🏼
Why? So they can continue their spending sprees and get those Rolex watches they never got?
@@bobbyheenan4061hey bobby heenan, i’ve seen your replies and from what i can tell you’re an asshole who sympathizes with abusers and blames the victims when they finally do something about it. Have a horrible day for years on end, Bobby! ❤
I’m sorry but they’re guilty. I don’t buy their story.
Free them!
Lyle sat there no remorse what so ever as they discuss the pictures of his parents. Only fake cries on stand. They need to remain in prison. No to these Kim K drama
Ummm they killed their parents in cold blood.
Who cares? Their parents were child molesters.
ummm their parents abused them in cold blood.
@@coloradoken3159 did you even listen to the defences opening statement???
the prosecution is…. interesting
I frel they should be set free they’re parents were monsters there is people who have done way worse school shopping’s etc
Wait a minute; you're telling me there's people running the streets going school shopping?!? Abhorrent!
They deserve parole.
Privilege is not a substitute for Murder!!
Stoltenberg Vista
Let them free 🥺
They killed their parents. What is the matter with you people.
@@1995-s8wstfu and experience what they experienced for 12 years. Then speak again if u would even be able to.
@@fe4rlie that’s not a reason to kill someone
Does anyone watch the new series on them. Is the hair part try Jw?
This is a THING now. Old trials to garner more 👍s on these channels.
what's wrong with it? some folks are too young to have seen these when they happened
Monsters didn’t make Abramson look old enough.
also she's prettier than the chick who played her.....
I am 100 percent on the brothers' side they should've never been separated especially in the sad way that they were and they should've never been sentenced to such horrific life sentences. I feel they should've been freed at the first trial instead of a mistrial. I am absolutely obsessed and in love and in ahh of the both of them. They're parents were terrible parents to them and I find it so beautiful that the two brother's were able to love each other flaws and all I love they're bond especially being as they were never showed how to love the way they loved one another. Please free the Menendez brothers. And shame on all of you who thought that justice was served.!!!! My name is Maria Carter and I live in Columbus Ohio and I'd love to be able to talk to the brothers and be there for them and with them.
Free my kings
They didnt claim to have ever been raped until they got locked up not while they were spending thier dead parents money.even if its true they should of called the cops not take justice into thier own hands
@kiajohnson3846 they didn't mention the sexual abuse because back then the stereo type was that these things can only happen to women. They never mention it to Dr orzel because he would report it back to there parents.
@@HannahNikki-j4n what about the confession after they already got rid of them? nobody to report it to then, and still they didn't even hint at it.
@forkborking7 im sorry, what? Erik told Dr. ozel that they killed their parents, Dr. ozel already knew how controlling Jose was. He knew there was more to the story, but the boys couldn't say they got SA cause they were afraid. They made a promise that they shouldn't talk about being SA to anyone cause it was just too upsetting and traumatising, but when Leslie became erik lawyer, erik gained trust for her.
They told their one friend and cousin as kids. They were scared to tell anyone and didn’t believe cops would help them.
You’re acting like it’s easy to talk about abuse especially something like rape especially being raped by their father I’m sure homosexuality was a taboo back then even rape
God doesn't bless all with good healthy children. I'm a mother of special needs child. This makes me extremely angry with the parents. They have ruined their blessings completely. I really wish they rot in hell for the abuse and torture they brought to their children. Such extremely healthy boys. Its heartbreaking. Its really strange and extremely bad that nobody around got an idea of what's going on with these children. Really white people should think about their family relationships especially the way they raise their children. Seeing a lot of broken families and abuse especially among white people.
Pure evil.
If their folks were poor, they'd have ran away. Cha Ching.
Does that make any sense or do you feel comfortable with being narrow minded?
If they were capable of plotting, lying, burglaries (valued at $100,000), other odd behaviour as witnessed by ex girlfriends, admitting they were under the impression their father was removing them from his will and then spending money frivolously before they got caught...shows that they are very shrewd and more than capable of an escape plan if they were being abused. At first, I was originally defending that as victims of molestation, as most victims are dependent on their abusers for housing, food etc. However, in this case they already had experience of robbery. If they are capable of deceiving the law or trying to get away with murder they should be punished regardless. What that looks like is for the new jury to make.
Abusers literally build these type of people, what do you expect from them to act like victims and be helpless? If they had committed suicide it would’ve been a different story but the moment victims stand up for themselves and do what the evil they learned from their abusers to their abusers it’s a problem
Girl what… 💀
Your brain works very slowly doesn't it ?
Hubert Stream
Orn Corner
Rice Turnpike
Abuse of any kind is terrible, especially this type of abuse. But it doesn't allow people to committ multiple counts of premeditated murder and then lie about it to police so they can buy fancy watches, sports cars, and expensive real estate. Prison is exactly where they belong.
What???
Liars
Okay chad
Y’all, they murderers and they’re like 55 now. Yall are gross
💯
U sound like u got a real good good brain
what does their current age have to do with anything?
They r so guilty
Hey why don't you go troll somewhere else??
@@kirstenwright1974 that asshole commenting thinks their innocent . His dumbass probably wasn’t even born . Doesn’t realize the 2 turds also shot mom , then reloaded and shot her again . Then went shopping for Rolex’s the next day . F em both !
I agree 💯 % !
I never believed them and I still don’t .
@@DreamyVibes68,
Stop trolling other people in the comments .
@@moogs05Their mother was abusive too you fool.
You ppl are so weird. Do you REALLY think murderers should run free amongst the rest of us? Seriously. None of you live in the cities that allow convicts to roam free...
yes after over 20 years
It been 35+ years don't you think it's enough.. they did it because it was self defense and they no longer felt safe
@@HannahNikki-j4n yeah took their parents out while they were sleeping to save their lives. even if the abuse is true, it's not self defense when there is no immediate threat. maybe they could have gotten 2nd degree and been out by now if they just argued they flew into a rage because of abuse and killed them.
@@jls_cb they aren’t ’series killers’ they killed their parents! They wouldn’t just go around murdering people, please think a little!
@forkborking7 your incorrect about the sleeping part. They weren't sleeping they were watching TV Jose even saw he's son carry the guns and got up, and that's when erik shot his father. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have gone to jail, but 34+ years is enough.
Both my parents AS me as a kid. I never killed them. I walked away with my head held high
Do you want a medal or something?
And? You think all victims can walk away like you did??
Good for you I’m glad you got out but unfortunately not all victims feel they can and everybody’s situation is different it should not be compared
@@graveburgers,
Did the Menendez brothers need their father’s 💰💰💰 and Rolex watches ?
You did the right thing ❤ .
Me personally , don’t believe the Menendez murderers endured what they’re claiming .
So guilty. I cannot stand Leslie A
How are they guilty?
@@nbuny Is this even a question? Yes, they are. They admitted to the shooting in both cases.
@@GooGooGal316 Of course they’re guilty, but they did it for a reason.
@@nbunyyou must be out of your mind. I’m glad you weren’t on the jury.
Hope about call the police. File a report, arrest them. They shot them file they were asleep.
It’s all lies. Sit down.
@@GooGooGal316 The "asleep" part truly has nothing to do with this. Their father and mother ABUSED them.
There's so much evidence about the abuse. Notes, pictures, relatives, so much. I don't wanna start something with a person that has a thick skull, sorry.
Think about all the abuse black peoples go through don’t make it right to kill your parents
Tf does being blk have to do with anything
huh.. I'm sorry when was black people brought up don't even.
How did you manage to make this into a race argument?
GUILTY AS CHARGED!!! ROT IN PRISON!!!
And you’ll rot in hell.
When i see these comments i'm in awe because this world is fill with crazy people y would u release these two boys. Just like how they can do this trust an believe they themselves might be abusers too
Their parents were crazy. Did you listen to the opening statements?! The mother also sounded mentally disturbed, not to mention a pedophile as a father.
Their attorney makes the case for the state against them. That is how guilty they are. They only came up with molestation story AFTER being locked up. They we're probably describing what was happening to them in prison 😂 and lied about it being their parents. They are sick and tried to get away with murdering their parents. Guilty!!!!
So even the pictures and the 50+ witnesses?
@@Badgalvick1abuse is terrible, especially sex abuse, but that doesn't allow people to committ premeditated murder and then lie about it to police so they can buy luxury watches, sports cars and real estate. They're both right where they belong.
Tell me you know nothing about the case without telling me you know nothing about the case
@@hannahaslani5192 you sound like word salad Kamala Harris bless your heart. I know this case inside and out. And if you buy their bullshit I have ocean front property to sell you in Idaho 😂
@@Badgalvick1 would you like to buy some ocean front property in Idaho? 😂