To be fair, Peter bullying Flash after he was bitten by the spider was very accurate to the Peter Parker from the comic books. In the comics it was very clear, that if Peter could, he would fight back against Flash and even possibly be a bully himself. It was only after the death of Uncle Ben which he was partially at fault for, that he realised he should use his power to never let anything like that happen again. He wasnt really a good person before he got the powers, it was the powers that made it possible for him to be good.
He then became very good friend with flash after getting to know him. I even read a spidey comic where flash was peter wingman for MJ, which is really cute. Really, the worst part of andrew bullying is the electro scene in time square. Completely tone deaf and out of character, even back then at 15 i physically cringed because i knew this wasn't it.
i guess this is one of the morals that the story teaches ya. You gotta be responsible if you have a lot of power, otherwise shits gonna hit the fan. I actually liked how Peter seems to struggle with this line of thinking throughout the entirety of two movies, and he still doesnt seem to grasp the concept that "not being a bully" isnt the only way to be responsible. You also have to be careful with the people youre supposedly helping.
I just wanna point out. In the comics Peter Parker wasn't bullied only because nerdy, he was a self-outcast. Later in the comics when he becomes more confident a lot of people, and specially girls, notice how much of a good looking guy he is.
Seriously bothers me when people have this complaint about these movies. He's clearly a loner and on the margins socially within his high school. He's clearly a good kid and intelligent and handsome and all that, but we, the omniscient viewers get to see all those sides of him. His classmates just know him as that kid with the skateboard and camera who doesn't talk to anyone really, is incredibly awkward, and gets beaten up from time to time by the class bully. Also, just because he's more socially adept than you were in high school doesn't mean that he's a cool kid. It just means you were really socially inept.
@@mouses_HK thats because the artist changed. Ditko perfectly illustrated how much of a nerd and outcast Peter was in his art whilst Romifa couldn’t help but make his characters buff and handsome. That’s why Peter became a chad in college
@@wDoucheCanoe Both are fantastic. It's like Jay said above, he just didn't get a very good script for these movies. I felt he nailed the snarky sarcasm of Spider-Man but I just couldn't picture him as Peter Parker.
Note: The Spider that bit him DID die. Somehow petrified itself after he tugged the spider web. Its seen petrified and he put it in a jar and later shows Gwen. The spider you saw crawling was just a random spider and they only zoomed on it to show how observant he became.
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I honestly appreciate the more darker side of Andrew's Peter, because out of the three, he's the only one stated in No Way Home to stop pulling his punches after Gwen's death. This Peter Parker was significantly more emotional than the others, it takes control of him.
He basically nailed Spider-Man. His Peter Parker was great, though not quite up to par with Maguire. If he just got a better script than whatever the fuck Webb gave him, he could have been the best Spider-Man easily.
I wish Elvis looked at the deleted scene where Peter's Dad comes back to talk to him in the cemetery. Andrew's acting in that scene especially was absolutely amazing and it was so emotional.
@@ElvistheAlien Yeah they would have had to include him in the sequel, messing up Peter Parkers whole story arc but it was an absolutely amazing scene nonetheless.👍🏻
Deleted scenes are deleted for a reason lol elvis should trash them anyway... for example .. the full metal jacket deleted scenes would have wrecked a gr8 mov
@@MyTwoCents2 I know they are deleted for a reason and like Elvis said it would have messed up the sequel but it was still a great scene and I would love to see Elvis' opinion on the acting in it
The fact that they included how Gwen died and actually added in that the web broke her fall, but also her back, severing her spine is what killed her is amazing. I'm so glad they kept that in. She would have died either way but the fact that Peter, trying to save her actually 'killed' her is insane. I can only imagine this is something they would have explored further if the trilogy had gone forward. It's exactly like the comics. Would love to see Andrew handle that part of Peter's storyline. Very sad we never got to see the end of this trilogy. It was going in the right direction. They just fumbled everything else.
In the comics, her neck snapped from the whiplash. In the movies it looks like she was caught too late and still hit the ground. Either way, yes I agree
Personally, the “Amazing” movies are some of my favorites of all time- I think they did the best job of doing the comics justice. I know its not a popular opinion, but still.
It was for me too. Redemption baby, its a powerful arc. Hear me out....what if they actually did an Amazing Spiderman 3, it's a Spiderverse flick where Garfield is the mentor to Miles Morales and they team up with Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen. Instead of Peter popping into Miles world, have Miles and Spider-Gwen come to Andrew's universe. He gets his happy ending. I think it would print money.
I know I'm late to this but I loved that sequence so much. Before going to see NWH at the cinema I took the time to re-watch the two Andy Garfield films as I couldn't remember them. I didn't even remember what happened to Gwen and it shocked me all over again. The next day I went to the cinema and watching the parallels and call backs was great, but that scene, was the icing on the cake.
@@jesustapped That's very ambitious man. I'd love to see a 3rd film have him, just in his universe. Maybe struggling but trying to be a better person. He guilts about Gwen but helps out people. He plays basketball with the kids in Brooklyn. Helping a lady across the street. It'd be funny and cute that way. Andrew Garfield would do well there.. Add a villain also, that maybe relates to Andrew. He actually persuades the villain to change and get help. Idk, this is pretty ambitious too, everybody is typing about a newer story. I do hope we see it man! Andrew Garfield was wasted by a poor script 😢.. Sony come on bruh 😂❤
“He’s super tall and handsome, it doesn’t seem like the type of person that would get bullied.” The one fatal flaw here is relying on high school kids to be even remotely logical.
right and ppl say he doesn’t look “nerdy enough” but idk man, at my high school i knew plenty of dudes like that who weren’t exactly bad looking but who weren’t popular or well liked and were into nerdy stuff. not a ton of ppl got bullied per say at my high school, but it was obvious who was popular or well liked generally and who wasn’t, and it was hardly ever abt looks and more abt who you knew. ppls idea of what’s “cool” or “attractive” differs too depending on where you’re from
@@mackenziebarnes3124 nah have you seen how this Peter Parker talks? He can barely even form a full sentence without stuttering. Also he's just plain awkward. I'm totally against bullying, but I can see why he would get bullied
Fun fact:There is a deleted scene showing Dr Conners with his family. They should have left in this scene because it would add more depth to the character and would have made the "Poor Peter Parker" line sting even more.
There's actually a bunch of scenes with Dr Conners son, but they cut out the plot line of Conners and his son completely, i think most of the deleted scenes or alternate takes would have made the movies better if they were added.
That's really awful. One of the most interesting things about the Lizard is that he has a life outside of science: a wife and a son. This adds a tragic element to the story because many times Connors tries (and fails) to control the Lizard so that he can live a normal life again with his family.
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles for sure! one of the scenes features dr connors telling his bullied son that bullies deserve to be punished in the worst way (mirroring his own being bullied by his higher-up at oscorp and paralleling what happens in another deleted scene, where, as the lizard, connors captures and kills him) and it really illustrates the tragedy of becoming more and more monstrous.
people say RDJ is the oly actor that can play Iron-man people say Hugh Jackman is the only actor that can play Wolverine People say Ryan Reynolds is the only actor that can play deadpool but all of these statements are probably an over exaggeration YET, there is literally no denying that there is probably no other person in the entire world that can play JJ Jameson, other than JK Simons.
He's pretty much great in everything he is in. I just watched 21 bridges, while not a perfect movie I really enjoyed it and he did another solid performance.
Andrew Garfield wasn't a terrible Spiderman. I loved his performance and honestly he's the reason why I became obsessed with Spiderman. The execution for the plot for both movies need work but it's not Andrew's fault. He was technically just being told what to do by the directing team. It's not like he wrote the scripts and it's not like he was in the board room planning out the plot of the story. I don't think he deserves all the hate. He's a good Spiderman and I'm tired of pretending he's not!!!
Reading the older comics from the 60s and 70s, I was surprised at just how egotistical and anti-social Peter Parker could be at times - he was more of an angry nerd as opposed to a shy one. The more I read I saw that was his arc. He would go from being a bitter young man to the earnest superhero we all know and love. With what Garfield’s Parker goes through in his movies, to me, his performance is closet thing we have to the character in the comics with that arc. So, I’ve always had a soft spot for Andrew Garfield’s version.
Honestly it's weird when you look at the 60's comics and realise that both Garfield and Holland's films are actualy a lot closer to them than the Reimi movies, albeit in different ways. Garfield is as you said the "angry nerd" while also capturing the snarky trickster element of the character. While Holland's wacky teen comedy that occasionally gets interrupted, by superheroics, is pretty inline with 60's Spidey stories.
i always interpreted him as a bullied victim that felt bitter with the world, then lashing out at people and using Spider-Man as an outlet to let out all that bitterness, y'know? at least that's how I like to see it
@@npcimknot958 The rudest Peter gets in the early comics is that he makes witty come backs at Flash Tompson when he's getting picked on or he disses and mocks the criminales he's fighting as the WebSlinger
Andrew Garfield was a really good pick for this role, sadly he was a victim to poor writing. We seen what he can do with good writers backing him (The Social Network) it was just super unfortunate the way things planned out.
Wrong... the problem is he was too handsome. He can be a fan and really love Peter but Garfield is pretty hot doesn't work for Peter. Toby is the best at being a goofy nerd. Holland works because he is kind of a small dude. But he still doesn't even come close to Toby in dorkiness.
Major props to Dane DeHaan for what he went through filming the second movie. The prosthetics, along with the heavy metal suit, would have been difficult to act in already but filming in such hot conditions in the clock tower is very impressive. It sounds like they had a lot of moments where his health was at risk while they tried to find ways to cool him down and he still stayed on and finished the film. I know he was probably contractually obligated to finish the film but it's still really impressive.
I don't think any contract would be valid if your life is on the risk if you take it to a judge. They probably would've to change the script or do anything to facilitate his job.
_"But I feel like one of Peter's core personality traits is that he genuinely cares about people. The Peter Parker in the beginning of this movie starts out as a selfish bully with a power trip, and it feels wrong."_ Now see, I cannot agree with that. This is actually straight from the original comics. When Peter got his powers he used them for his own personal benefit and stated very clearly that outside his aunt and uncle he didn't care for anyone else. It was the death of his uncle that incited his change of hearth there. Here, a little bit more realistically, he only cares about revenge until Captain Stacy points that out to him in the dinner scene, at which point he realizes he's dishonoring his uncle's talk about responsibility and strives to be a better hero.
I think elves missed the point, he was supposed to start off as arrogant, selfish and cocky, but work his way to becoming a hero, the actual moment when he becomes spider-man is on the bridge after he saves the kid, then he finally says " I'm spider-man "
Yeah a lot of people miss this about Peter's original character. To the point where I think if they did a direct adaptation of him from the comics people would hate him. I love his character, but OG Peter has big school shooter vibes.
Also a very dumb argument considering raimis peter also beat the shit out of flash and let the guy who killed Uncle Ben go. Like people really want to act as if Andrew and tobeys peter are so different.
But where was the actual line, "With great power comes great responsibility"?? The filmmakers didn't have the guts to repeat something from the previous movies because they knew it was inferior
The best way to deal with the killer never coming up again, is just having a short scene where peter comes to terms with the fact that he wont ever find uncle Ben's killer but he can stop other people from going through what he did and then he properly becomes spiderman, this would best after he saves the kid in the bridge
they do have a scene like that, right? Where he names himself spider-man to the man and the next scene where he sits in his room staring at his suit contemplating what he wants to do as spider-man. After saving someone for the first time he realised he needed to use his powers for good, that's how he feels when he's alone in his room. That's how I interpret it at least.
@@PeterParkerSpiderMan940 yeah I never understood why people got angry over Peter forgetting about his killer. Clearly it was a choice he made and it linked with his character growth. Pretty funny how many people missed it lol
@@ape5490 some people have their brain on just enough to notice that something hasn't been explicitly tied up, but not enough to actually recognize character growth.
Andrew Garfield’s performance in NWH proved that he could be a great Spider-Man with good writing. I’m glad NWH somewhat redeemed his version of Spider-Man.
I thought the Amazing Spider-Man movies were garbage even though they probably did follow the comics more. But the Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire movies will always be the better movies. TASM were just weak and pointless, I’m glad they never made a 3rd installment. As for the Tom Holland movies I didn’t care for them… or not Homecoming, anyway. It was too “kiddy” for me
@@nsasupporter7557 Gotta be honest, I find the Raimi Trilogy overrated. Spider-Man 1 is a good movie but not great, Spider-Man 2 is really good, and Spider-Man 3 is bad. TASM is better than Spider-Man 1, and 3 for me, and it’s debatable wether TASM 2 is worse or better than Spider-Man 3, but that’s just my opinion.
@@chriscarrera1172 the Sam Raimi movies aren’t overrated at all, if anything… the first movie was underrated because it always gets overshadowed by the second movie. Both 1 and 2 were equally great… I agree that 3 was kind of embarrassing and ridiculous, but still better than Amazing Spider-Man. The only thing the first Amazing Spider-Man movie had going for it was that it was better than it’s sequel. Both all in all, both movies were crap and I’m so glad they never made a third movie. Ain’t no way Amazing Spider-Man was better than the first movie Sam Raimi movie! If you don’t think the Sam Raimi movies were good there’s something wrong with you… there’s so many great things about them, Uncle Ben’s line “With great power comes great responsibility,” Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin, Aunt May’s line “I believe there’s a hero in all of us,” the train scene and the hospital scene. C’mon man! Those were the best Spider-Man movies… everything that followed was pure trash. Even the Tom Holland movies were better than Amazing Spider-Man… Amazing was pointless and weak
@@nsasupporter7557 The acting in Raimi's was bad other than Willem, Alfred, and J.K. Simmons to be honest. Didn't feel like the actors other than who I mentioned, were trying and Tobey isn't really convincing as Spider-Man (he does play Peter really well though).
What annoyed me most from this film was how the trailers and posters always made The Rhino seem like a major threat and character in the movie, despite how little he's in the movie for. They hyped up the fight between Spiderman vs. Rhino so much before this movie's release only to be completely blue balled by the anti-climactic finish between the two characters. We'll sadly never get to see what a 3rd installment of this particular Spiderman franchise would look like.
THAT! LOL litearlly the last shot of the triller was the last shot of the movie LOL litearlly tahts when i thought th e movie was starting and then credits
I really liked Andrew as Spiderman. The hate he gets is so unnecessary, and his relationship with Gwen/Emma Stones is down right awesome. Personally, they rushed the death of Gwen too quickly imo.
You can tell that Andrew was really passionate about spiderman, like on another level. Especially when in movie, peter gets more comfortable as Spidey, and Andrew has a blast with it
Reminds me of Star Wars, how people hated on Hayden Christensen because he played Anakin and they disliked the character. I think some people forget that the actors don't write the script/story, they just act it out. Andrew is very talented, I hope he doesn't let the hate get to him.
@@xShadow_God my buddy said a few weeks back that Andrew Garfield was a dick because he refused to go to a Sony awards thing, where he would be presenting an award to a kid. This was after Sony let him go and I can't blame him for his refusal. Edit: just an example of the hate the poor guy gets. Sony deserves the hate but sadly it gets put on Garfield.
I will die defending the Andrew Garfield universe....I know there were some things that weren't "great, or whatever", but his portrayal of Spider-Man was excellent to me...the mixture of the emo-kid with out of control emotions to the wise-cracking Spidey we all love worked really well, and gave a humorous edge to an otherwise gritty, dark story. Also, TASM 1 has my absolute FAVORITE Spider-Suit ever....super textured (like the Man of Steel Superman suit) and a little on the darker side of the spectrum (plus the eyes were black in the first movie...I LOVED that). I felt the skateboarding and the hairstyle was just an attempt to modernize the Parker side of the character (remember, nerdy is the new sexy) to make him a more contemporary "nerd" as opposed to the "Urkel/Screech" type nerd most people think of in a movie or television show...Andrew was a WONDERFUL Spider-Man, and I hope to get to see him don the suit a few more times. I honestly thought that the Venom universe was going to be related to the TASM series....I thought that would have been a nice little retcon...finding out that Eddie Brock lived in the same universe as this version of Spidey.
I don't know why the TASM 1 suit gets so much hate? because i like it's sleek desing, it looks like something a teenager whould craft and sew togetter useing textured spandex, reflective sunglasses and a pare of tennis shoes
I also love the textures and vivid colors of the TAS 1 suit, and I feel like it would be universally loved it the design was more classic. Like the design of the TAS2 suit with the textures and colors of the first. Also TAS2 is awfully bad
I was with you up until TASM1 suit thing. Its not bad, and I dont hate it like most people do, but its for sure not the best suit we've seen. It make sense considering the context of the first film though, I'll give you that.
There’s not enough love for Hans Zimmer’s Electro Suite. It’s beautiful how well it portrays Max’s character with just music, his start as an innocent but troubled loner that desperately wants to be seen, the shock (no pun intended) of getting his powers, and the descent into anger and evil as his Electro persona consumes him
Right! He was dissing the soundtrack at points, and I was really hoping he’d acknowledge that one. Was genuinely really catchy, and the addition of the voices gives a little eerie edge.
I’m glad more people are talking about this. All the Spider-Man actors are extremely talented and capable of playing the characters in numerous ways. What people take issue with is the writing and tone etc. things the actors don’t get to chose. All the Spider-Man actors are great and each one could be “The best Spider-Man ever” with the right script.
exactly, each spiderman has their own unique ability to them. which makes them the well known spiderman in their universe. it's what makes them, them! not every spiderman is perfect or the same. their differences is what makes them hella special.
I'm a huge Spiderman fan. He's always been my favorite hero. Andrew Garfield did a great job, it breaks my heart people give him such a hard time. The movies were enjoyable at the end of the day and you could tell he loved being the character
"Sometimes I prefer Andrew's Spiderman over Toby's interpretation. But I know I'm putting myself into a guillotine by sayings that" Literally 90% of people after watching NWH: Andrew Garfield was amazing and we're creating petition to make TASM 3 or at least the next Venom with Andrew as Spiderman.
I was made fun of for loving TASM and now everyone has changed their tune and it’s annoying because NO you were hating on it and now you suddenly love it
Something funny about the scene where uncle Ben tells Gwen about the picture in Peter's computer is that in the Latin American dub peter say something like "I was just editing the picture for the yearbook" and Gwen says " do you edit yourself too much?" And they laugh, but they say retouching instead of editing but it can also be interpreted as " do you touch yourself too much?" idk I always chuckle when I remember it
The bridge scene imo was the "transition" you were wishing they added. This is the first time he chose to use his powers to really save somebody, and you can tell the interaction from the father of the kid he just saved hits him hard. He liked the felling that happy ending gave him and realized he would never get his uncle ben back, but he could help prevent other peoples "uncle bens" from dying. This is why the murder plot is dropped from here on, he has moved past it and has officially "become spiderman", accepting his responsibility. While they didn't beat us over the head and treat us like idiots spoon feeding this information to us, it's all there.
That's something I appreciated about Garfields version. It seemed like half the time in the Toby trilogy was repeating the " With great power..." line. Sometimes exposition, though less confusing to some, can't express someone's transition more than an emotionally charged scene.
THIS... just.. THIS even more so with the amazing body language, shot, and music after the kid got saved while he sits there. And afterwards he sees his mask, himself, fully accepting the responsibility of the Spider-Man
The glasses nitpick is funny, because peter in the og comics also wore them for quite a while after he got bit by a spider. He only stopped using them after flash broke 'em in issue 8. Also, wasn't Captain Stacy supposed to be right in that scene? Because of that conversation Peter realised that his actions, up until this point, were selfish, so he stopped going after uncle Ben's killer and actually became a hero. Also, again, Peter in the og comics was also a fucking asshole, up until his uncle died. He believed that his aunt and uncle were the only people who loved him, so he thought he had nothing to give back to the world. But to be fair, Andrew's Peter definitely had a good heart from the beginning, since he stopped flash from bullying a kid earlier on in the movie. Your point is still somewhat valid, just in a different way than you intented to present it.
Especially since Toby was very reminiscent of the 1960s campy Spider-Man, which was a full blown cliche of what nerds were portrayed at that time. Peter was always a loner, Andrew was awkward and nerdy but not overdoing it…Tom Hollands Peter is flat out a annoying smart ass who thinks he’s smarter than he really is and doesn’t really get messed with at all. Hollands became a loner when he got bitten and ended up losing his entire life.
Why is he a loner though when he has a seemingly loving aunt and uncle to help him through his abandonment issues that started when he was 4? You’d think they would have done more to help him through that in all the years they raised him.
@@austinjohnsen4430 it’s not the same as having your actual parents. Also he was 5 years old or around that when they left him. Toddlers become extremely attached to their parents as a survival mechanism, so for them to just leave and never talk to him again is going to stunt him emotionally and make it harder for him to connect with others even if he still has his aunt and uncle.
In the first movie when Peter is arguing with captain Stacy, Stacy mentions how Spider-Man is operating with a vengeance. He pointed out how all the criminals were the same and how it must be personal. Peter had a puzzled look on his face as that was the moment he realized what he was doing was wrong. From that point forward he completely gave up on hunting his uncles killer, as he was greater than that.
Honestly i liked it, i think it was cool how they used him skateboarding to develop some kind of sense that he could balance before and how they used it to help him learn how his powers worked. Like when he skates up the wall and sticks to it
Omg yessss Andrew and Tom are very attractive and I think Tom’s is only seen as nerdier because he likes Star Wars but Bullies don’t care how hot you are they will still roast and beat you up to a crisp
Even Tobey on the first film was pretty good looking, I don’t get these people. And your looks have nothing to do with how people treat you at school, it’s more about your attitude, if you have low self-esteem and are kind of an introvert you can be bullied, anything else doesn’t really matter
@@gabriellascurain9029 EXACTLY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE "UGLY" TO BE A NERD OR GET BULLIED. Also, I don't get how peter couldn't skate. Skating does not instantly make you a "cool" person or immune to bullies. Most people who really got into skating b4 were outcasts themselves.
@@chromosome3242 exactly lol being a skater myself, most of us are somewhat considered outcasts except with the people we skate with unless you choose to skate alone
I honestly think the reason he's still wearing glasses after being bitten is the same reason he never grew internal webshooters in his arms. It hadn't evolved in his genetic makeup yet.
The common complaint of skateboarding making Peter "too cool" makes me think that whoever is saying that clearly doesn't remember that skaters weren't cool....
Yes they were. I knew a person just like Peter, not many friends, but was a cool skater. He was still liked by most people because he was chill. Skaters have always been cool.
@@mocapcow2933 yea this one seems to vary by where you live. Where I live it's like skaters are cool to the outcasts, but are still outcasts and considered "uncool" by the "general population"
@@CTEMmm Peter Parker lives in queens though, skaters are usually respected because most are chill. The ones I’ve met keep small circles but usually everyone likes them.
Andrew Garfield is not a bad “Spider-Man”. He doesn’t have the greatest movie, but has the greatest performance from an actor. He’s such a good actor and doesn’t need the hate. He played the best Spider-Man (just get rid of the skateboard)
The “everything flying out the plane because of the windows breaking out” thing is just not how it works. Rapid depressurization just doesn’t really do that (although I doubt he would be-able to keep typing). So all in all that scene is more realistic then 90% of other movies. Although it still in no way is completely realistic.
Haters gonna hate but I loved these two movies. They came out when I was in high school and I watched the first one literally 3 times in theaters. Not sure why it struck me so much but I loved this version of Spider-Man!
Garfield is one of the greatest actors of our generation. The movies themselves are pretty meh but his performance is just brilliant. If anyone’s interested, look up his performance in Angels in America, an 8 HOUR stage play where he steals the show and won a Tony award for his performance
Just a reminder, the reason for all the PoV first person shots in ASM1 were because it was supposed to be 3D. I watched it in IMAX3D when it was in theaters. It was it's biggest hook during trailers and such before it was released.
I believe that Andrew's Peter is supposed to be another take on the nerd character. I had just revisited the movie and it's not the classic "broken glasses, only loves books" kind of nerd we're usually looking at in old movies and how it's usually stereotypically portrayed. It's more of an outcast/wallflower kind of nerd. He's more introverted, but he's not overly nerdy. You can see that he's trying to be more confident in the beginning of the movie, prior to being Spider-Man, but he lacks the real power to back it up. Though he's not the classic nerd that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko originally designed, I can see what Webb was going for and I honestly think it works in his progression as Spider-Man in this certain movie.
Exactly, I think they even mentioned that during a comic-con panel. What's nerdy back then isn't nerdy now so it kind of grinds my gears when people complain that Andrew wasn't "nerdy". Also the whole "Hes too cool to be spiderman" argument is weird, like somehow an orphan whos father figure is shot and died in front of him isn't going to be edgy.
@@games_on_phone89 I was more talking about Andrew’s interpretation of Peter, with a lot of the complaints about it being he’s too cool and all that. You can have overly nerdy people in movies, because there are still people that are like that irl, but Andrew’s interpretation shouldn’t be bogged down because he’s not that cookie cutter nerd stereotype
I think that the first Amazing Spider-Man movie was a great "modern" take on the Spider-Man origin story. I liked the web shooters and the suit especially. Even though the suit didn't look that good, it looked like something that someone could produce on their own with stuff ordered online. Also a lot of the stunts were actually live action and that's a huge plus every time.
the movies had a lot of great moments, and Andrew Garfield’s performance definitely makes it so much better. Yes these movies have flaws and im not going to sit here and act like they are great, but not terrible. The second one was subpar while the first one was average but forgettable. Decent cinematography for action scenes, great webslinging, and Peter is meant to be a loner here instead of the nerdy type, which works. Him being Spiderman for revenge did tick me off until i realized that it was the entire point of the scene. He only becomes “Spiderman” after the table scene with Officer Stacy in which we are supposed to agree with his points. Peter learns from it and becomes the Spiderman we love. If 5 is average, TASM = 5/10 and TASM 2 = 3.5/10. Not great movies but Andrew himself is EASILY the star of the movies. A shame he didn’t have better scripts to work with.
I think the suit looks good. I'm honestly a bigger fan of Tobey's and Andrew's suits more than any of Tom's. I like the Spider-Monkey suit though. (The all black one in Far From Home)
Honestly the death of Gwen in the 2nd movie is still one of the most tragic scenes in any superhero movie for me. Both of these movies have a crapload of problems, but they also have absolute strokes of brilliance far above any of what the Raimi movies did. It's a shame it wasn't consistent at all
Yeah, some moments in these films are definitively spider-man, like when he saves the kid on the swinging and fighting scenes, him saving the kid on the bus, the scene with the cranes, the electro fight, the arguments with aunt may. These movies have some really great moments and those moments should be the standard for the character going forward, but the writing is and villains are awful at times and kinda ruin it
I absolutely loved that scene. Fighting against all odds, you think he's gonna make it, but no, he fails and it breaks him. It's tragic, but also really beautiful
I like the decision that Peter never finds Ben's killer. Kinda similar to Batman in the sense that part of his motivation is he'll never truly get closure.
@randomguy6679 not a fan personally. That makes the Joker Batman dynamic less cool cuz it removes the mystery. I'm not a fan of that Joker backstory personally
About Peter never finding Ben's killer; That was my favorite element of the original Death Wish. The vigilante lashes out at random street thugs hoping desperately to get the right guy by accident someday. But he never does. Eventually it stops even mattering any more. I like that Spiderman started down that path and directed it to good.
Stan Lee didn't actually want Gwen Stacy to die. He's not the one that wrote it. One of the writers killed her off while he was on vacation. They had far more leeway back then to do what they wanted. Side note if you want to see a Spider-Man like character that shoots web out of his butt, check out the Venture Brothers. Brown recluse or something like that.
@@velhaw8737 That came out of the mouth of Stan Lee. Watch comic book man, on his cameo episode that's exactly what he says. Next time actually have a reason for disagreeing instead of just being disagreeable.
The best thing about TASM and why it's my favourite spiderman is Andrew Garfield. He's an amazing actor. Every single emotional scene where Peter Parker is just being a down to earth human with problems is where I feel like he really shines through. When it comes to emotional moment and it's just silent where the actor ability is being tested, Andrew is probably the best one compared with the other 2 spidermen. However, after watching no way home. The last few minutes of the movie truly made him the best Spiderman.
Andrews character was messed up by the studio so much he's an amazing actor but saying he's the best one out of Tobey ( the best ) and Tom is just objectively wrong
@@squish1626 I agree so much with you here. However, the last 15 minutes of NWH really changed my opinion about Tom. He really gave me both of the Tobey and Andrew vibes, and MJ is just perfect too in that last 15 mins.
@@squish1626 Nothing is objective you cookie. It's an opinion, and my opinion is that Andrew Garfield is the best Spider-Man, even outshining Tobey and Tom and I watched all of the movies as a kid. Don't say it's objectively wrong.
First one would’ve been better if it had a more grounded villian like kingpin because of the grounded tone but I’m sorry the only thing good about the second one is the suit but they are funny to watch
in peter's defense, i wouldnt help a shopowner who wouldnt let me take my drink over a few cents, especially with his "10 dollars minimum for take a penny" store policy my ass
I think Andrew felt the most like Spider-Man because he actually had quips when he was fighting and they were actually great and played off well. Tom Holland is more like a dumbfounded teen who's lost all the time. 'Whoah that's like a super big metal horn you got there Mr. Rhino person.'
Andrew still wearing his glasses after the spider bite could be a reference to the old comics where Peter still wore his glasses when he wasn’t being spider man.
I actually think andrew garfield is a great spiderman and a great actor who actually behaves and emotes like a real person. I think he was just given a sub-par script.
Gonna be honest he wasn't even a bad spidey. Haven't seen the movies in a while. I seen people be all like "People only like him bc he's hot" They just seem mad because he actually has talent.
When tasm first came out I was 21, love the movies and felt Andrew just got the raw end. His personality was perfect for spider man. Plus, a few people and a girl I worked with said I looked like him so ya I was kinda obsessed with the movies. Being almost 30 now I see how cringy I might have been but seeing him in the recent nwh film made me super happy. Especially for him, at the very least put his performance on the radar cause he deserves it.
Personally, if I found a pair of my dad's glasses if he wasn't with me anymore, i'd either change the lenses to be my perception, or if I didn't need glasses i'd get regular lenses. Peter doing this is completely understandable, and after the first scene he could have very well got them changed (still feel they should have added a line or two about it tho)
I get that most people think Peter is this pure soul that always makes the right choice and wants to help everyone, but originally it didn't start that way. Much like Andrew's version in the beginning of this film, Peter is an angsty teenager with a pretty bitter view on the world. He makes lots of mistakes and learns from them, but it took some time for him to eventually become the man he is.
@@pigeon4529 The only way it may have worked that way if it was the first spider man movie before the classic ones, he was too cool of a peter parker even before he had any powers which was too off putting.
Sony used the 'main character breaks into a lab to investigate and gets infected with superpowers' setup for The Amazing Spider-Man and liked it so much they recycled it for the first Venom movie.
For all uncle ben knew that guy was a plain clothes cop, and he just instantly tried to steal his gun. Imagine if that was what it actually was, would Spiderman become a criminal as Uncle Ben was killed by the police? or would he just constantly think "man I shouldn't get involved in stuff I have nothing to do with as it can make things way worse".
@@krudzinski240 I think he means that they modernized his original goofy design, by giving him the original electro mask but with lightning instead of an actual mask
the first amazing spider-man is actually my favorite because it feels more realistic in its wackiness, peter didn't make the web fluid but they showed he's smart by him making the shooter, he chases his killer and becomes a better person instead of starting off as a goody-2-shoes, and he makes the Lizard with the help of preexisting science that he added too. He smart but in a human way, and good but in a human way. He plays the spiderman character perfectly (even if he peter is bad)., and I think if there was better dialogue and a better directer it could be REALLY good.
I think the director was great it was just the studio interfering. Mainly avi arad. He stuffed too many things into the movie, making it more of a product. Webb did an incredible job with what he had to work with. He didn't have much of a say in the movie which was the biggest problem.
I just realized that Gwen’s father asking Peter to keep Gwen out of his life for her safety basically foreshadows her death which is due to her being involved in peters life and try’s to help him defeat electro leading to her death
25:44 You're supposed to. Up until then, Spider-Man is basically just a bully in a Halloween costume. It's when Captain Stacy calls Peter out that he starts to realize that what he's doing is wrong, and it's the bridge scene when he becomes a real hero.
@@jesspat7009 Andrew did his best with what he was given. The problem with these movies was the writing. Andrew is a fantastic actor. Everything else in the series was fantastic. Casting, acting, VFX, everything.
That spider that bit him in AS1 was dead, the one he saw walking on his skateboards was just a different, house spider, different size and color, it was just to demonstrate his spidey senses and ability to detect other spiders (and possibly a wink and nod or foreshadow to being able to control/summon spiders)
I'm surprised you didn't talked about the infamous deleted scene where Peter's father is revealed to still be alive. Andrew Garfield was so great in that scene, hopefully they will do his character justice in No Way Home.
I think Andrew would have worked better as a slightly older, more experienced Spider-man, one who is already in college, more use to his powers, greater level of overall confidence. Still a bit dorky, and nerdy, but much less so than he is at the start of the comics kind of thing. I mean the general audience already knew Spider-man's origin, so doing it again seemed pointless to me, and would have worked better to skip over that part.
actually peter in the comics was kind of a bully when he got his powers, thinking about getting revenge on those who bullied him pre-spider bite but you know its normal, peter was a kid, would make sense for him to get a bit too petty or obnoxious. that's why i never hated andrew's peter, i watch tasm movies more than tobey or tom, altho i admit that tasm 1 and 2 arent very good movies as a whole, they just have really good individual parts.
Ikr? The whole point of spiderman is that ANYONE can be him. Crazy to think that whole thing was just throw out the window considering how it's a huge chunk of his character
I don't know what you mean. If he didn't get bit by the radioactive spider, he wouldn't be Spider Man, and there wouldn't be any comics or movies about him...
@Mister Majestic when did they remove that though? I'm not saying they didn't, just curious 'cause I haven't really kept up and hadn't heard about this whole "chosen one" crap - I agree, it sounds awful.
Love the Raimi trilogy for giving us the whimsy straight out of the comics, corny, off the wall, overall solid and charming comic book fun. Tobey is amazing and really conveys the conflicts and personality of Peter Parker. Also the memes. Love the memes. The Amazing movies are a lot more grounded, and I’m disappointed we didn’t get to see more of what they had planned for this series with all they had set up. Andrew Garfield is definitely different from Tobey, but I like how he’s a lot more subtle in how he shows he’s a loner and a nerd with his vocal delivery and mannerisms. Wish we didn’t bother with the parents subplot, I like Gwen a lot more than Mary Jane with her chemistry with Peter, and I’m really glad Garfield got another chance in NWH. MCU Spidey is pretty good, nothing else I can really say. A younger-looking Peter is really great, and I love Tom Holland selling how he’s just a boy filling in a huge role in a massive world. In a world with the Avengers, they nailed a Spider-Man to fit that universe. Into the Spiderverse is still head and shoulders above the lot in my opinion. Absolute masterpiece.
I really enjoy the Electro redesigns in other Spider-Man material. Usually a suit to help control electricity better like in the PS4 game and No Way Home. It looks cooler and the little nod to Electro's mask with his scar in the game and the spark that appears on Jamie Fox's face in the NWH trailers are great ways of appreciating the past.
@@SoftEndy Not really. Here he just looks like a blue human, whereas in the Ultimate Comics when Electro becomes more powerful he looks like a being of pure energy.
@@bigdip298 He has electricity zipping across the inside of his skin in the movie, it's pretty close. If he didn't have the body suit it would be much more evident. Also we didn't get to see his full potential in the film either. They probably didn't go full zappy cause then you couldn't see Jamie Foxx's face
The criticism about Andrew not feeling like Spider-Man has never made sense to me, because that’s the point. Peter is SUPPOSED to be a villain for the first half of the movie, and only changes once George Stacy tells him how messed up what he’s doing is. Directly after he chooses not to go after the lizard (a choice that would have made him a hero in the eyes of the public) so that he can save a child. I could analyze that scene so much more, but at the end of the scene he says he’s Spider-Man for the first time, and from that point on he’s much more like Spider-Man.
I also feel pretty bad for andrew. He had a lot of passion and theres this interview of him talking about how studios ruin it for fans. Everyone knows that hes a good actor but he just got screwed over by bad writing and directing. He definitely isnt my favorite spiderman and I havent seen these movies in a LONG time but it sucks that he got shafted so hard. I actually kinda like that hes different than other Peter's, that hes kinda cool and he skates. Some people dont like that but like. Miles is cool as fuck, he has a lot of friends and he just moved to a new school and was just bullied for like what, a week? It's nice to see different interpretations of him, especially RIGHT after tobey being such a fucking dweeb. I dont like that hes kind of a douche, again I dont remember this movie and reviews are kinda the only things I'm going off of. I tried to see it before watching no way home but these movies are way too damn long
I'm glad someone is finally seeing the Amazing duology (or atleast, just the first movie) for all the good that most chose to ignore and look away from. The first movie has some REALLY good scenes that aren't talked about enough like the kid wearing the mask and how Peter had no hesitation to take the mask off and tell the kid his identity, that random kid? he's still out there, he knows who spiderman is, but it's a promise between buddies not to let the secret out. And ofcourse in the second, when he helps the bullied kid. Andrew made an amazing Spidey, the banter was very hit or (mostly) miss in the second movie but I'll be honest, I forget Tobey's spidey ever made any banter (but I know the comedy was present and remember most of it fondly) aside from the 'Did your husband make that suit for you' joke. Tobey made for a much better *Peter Parker* but I feel where Andrew really shines is playing *Spider-Man*. That's not to say Tobey was a bad Spidey, nor am I saying Andrew was a bad Peter. Andrew just portrays the childish glee of becoming the Spider as a highschooler who hasn't had anything interesting happen in life and now he has tons of opportunities opening up, oblivious to the depression he'll face due to being Spiderman. While Tobey embodies the opposite, he embodies the Depression that is sadly very common with Spidey nowadays in the comics, where they make him tragic just to make him tragic. But Tobey's movies did it in a convincing way when everything tumbles down. Overall both have their own unique greatness and I would've loved to see how Peter would've grown in Amazing 3 but, ya know. I feel like Electro would've been MUCH better if they took the Spectacular Spiderman approach (where he got the name Electro via a Spidey banter like you said), and his suit is more of a safety thing than a silly costume while his body is pure yellow electricity. That, and there he geniuenly freaks out and tries to hide his face and act normal, getting coffee, albeit his anger issues do not help with his electricity going haywire and spidey just auto assumed he's a bad guy and kicks his ass, showing how he's still young and reckless and he goes on to regret being too fast on the trigger. While on the topic of costumes, design, and what could've been. Something about how the Lizard's CGI looked in the first movie was the biggest turnoff for me at the time, not the fact it was a reboot. Plus the fact he's naked and isn't even wearing the classic Coat, Black Shirt and Hulk Pants. Oh also I'm convinced the inclusion of so many characters and the absolute bloat that happened in Amazing 2 was the same interference as with Spidey 3: the Studio. 'Let's appeal to those who only heard of Green Goblin' was prolly their mindset with how rushed Harry was since they took their time with Lizard in the first movie.
That Electro solution sounds pretty good but has he not seen a picture ultimate Electro since that was the look they were going for, not that it turned out well. That was just one big oversight in this video with all the references to Dr.Manhattan and orginal Electro's appearance that it got to me more than I'd like to admit.
@@draykohunter6805 I think what he meant over all is the fact that Blue Electro is not nearly as iconic and outright doesn't work in this movie. It's way simpler but, ya know, people don't know about it. I could've sworn Ultimate Electro was only ever known for a very small period of time when this movie came out (and he started out Yellow and turned Blue iirc, unless that's only in the game).
NO tobey was the worse peter, hes more of a bitch than the wise cracking peter that weve seen in animated tv shows. HE was the most senistive pussy form of spiderman. Like spiderman was never arrogant but, it was as if he never truly got over his bullied existence until like the third movie. I genuinely dont get how people like his peter or spiderman. Like hes just not the hero or guy id look up to hes someone id bully lmao
Andrew Garfield is actually my favourite portrayal of Spider-Man along side tobey (I alternate between the 2). Andrew can certainly pull off the socially awkward teen vibe very well, and whilst his interpretation of Peter might not be as great as Tobey’s, his version of spider man is absolutely on point, which leads to some of the best scenes in any spider man movie. It’s just a shame that Sony and the Writers kinda messed it all up, but I hope he gets some sort of redemption for his character in No Way Home. Also, I like how everyone says that Andrew looks too good to play Peter Parker when the current spidey looks like Tom Holland lol (not to diss Holland’s version of Peter cause he’s great, but still).
i grew up on raimi movies and the idea of spiderman producing web and shooting them from his wrist just seems natural to me, now that i understand the comics more it would make way more sense for him to produce them naturally if he was in a universe where he was a mutant instead of a superhuman.
26:50 this is really good that you realized this because this is what the original peter parker WISHED he could do. He would constantly wish that he was stronger so he could beat up his bullies and he was always angry inside. Original peter had lots of anger issues too even before becoming Spider-Man so I think Andrew Garfield's version is really great and faithful. He gives us a realistic view on a teenager learning that he has the responsibility to help others as a hero
All the stuff with Peter's parents is what I really don't like about the Amazing Spider-Man movies, especially everything in the second movie. The fact that these movies practically make it seem like it was Peter's destiny to become Spider-Man is so stupid. Spider-Man's entire point is that it could be literally anybody behind the mask, Peter was just some random kid who happened to get bit. The glorification of Peter's parents in these movies is just so weird and unnecessary.
You know, it really does say something when a couple years later Sony released a Spider-Man movie whose message was basically a giant middle finger to the whole idea that only Peter could have gotten bit (Spiderverse, if it's not obvious enough already)
@@michaelvessel4604 I think it’s less Sony and more so that Phil Lord and Chris Miller truly understand Spider-Man as a character. Stan Lee has said on multiple occasions that Spider-Man was meant to be a hero that everyone can relate to, he’s just an average person who was thrust into the life of a hero. And Lord and Miller understood that point, that anyone can be Spider-Man.
@@SquashyButton in general, most media's do get that right about peter/Spider-Man character's. So it's a shame to see TASM wasting it. Raimi peter was a student with early adulthood issue's, insomniac Spider-Man was at a very relatable stage in his life where he was confused about the future and relation's, and miles was all about transition from teenage year's to adulthood. They could've easily done something similar with andrew version, he's based on the ultimate comic's and he had an arc where he felt he didn't do enough for the people's close to him. Something like that was a perfect fit for the second movie, and again, relatable.
SPOILER TALK ABOUT SPIDER-MAN 3: NO WAY HOME. DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. After watching Andrew Garfield in No Way Home, I appreciate the consistency of the characterization and details of Andrew’s Peter Parker. When he mentioned what has happened to him after the death of Gwen Stacy and how he became vengeful and stopped pulling his punches, it strongly connects to how Peter handled his grief with Uncle Ben. Peter was extremely in grief and guilt-stricken to the point where he fell back to his old ways of being aggressive to his victims. It goes to show how Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man is an extremely flawed individual. He’s still human in the end. Which is kinda strange for me to say now that I would be open for Sony to re-open the Amazing Spider-Man Franchise and have one last movie with Andrew Garfield again to properly wrap things up.
THIS. andrews peter was the most realistic most HUMAN most RELATABLE Peter Parker. Not only the way his acting was, but the issues he had and the anxieties he had of what was going on in his life felt SO REAL. He's a human who doesn't have a clear sense of direction until he loses Gwen. Gwen WAS his direction, he always came back to her. He looks for answers he tries holding onto things that he loves because he doesn't want to feel the same pain he felt when his parents left him. He's a human. He's a man. He looked for revenge because of his uncle, he realized that wasn't what Ben would've wanted and knows that he can do better. He has the hope and motivation to keep pushing on to be spider-man because of gwen, but without her he feels lost and depressed. That speech that gwen made did not bring him back to normal. Instead it gave him a push he needed, but did not patch up that deep deep wound he has. No Way Home did a great job at presenting a tortured Peter. I just want to see where he goes from here on out. Weather it be in another crossover movie or maybe he gets his third solo film that he deserves. I just need more of Andrew.
When he saved MJ it seemed cathartic to him, like he felt he saved Gwen in someway. Even if she's not the Gwen he loves he saves her for a different Peter, it's nice to see that.
Peter was a skater because Andrew thought that if HE was Spider-Man, that would be how he chose to express himself (similar to how Miles uses graffiti)
Garfield was actually my first Spiderman, The Amazing Spiderman 2 being my first live action Spidey movie. I've only ever seen Spidey in comics before then, and I was blown away by how well Garfield portrayed him on screen. Maguire may be the classic, and Holland may be the natural, but Garfield will always be my Peter Parker.
Just a correction: Dr. Kafka's not the Chameleon; in the comics, she was just a normal psychologist who's the head of the institute that's keeping Cletus Kassidy (Carnage)
Honestly had no issue with him playing Spidey. I had an issue with the writers disregarding big character points to make him "cool". Spidey is a dork and i think if given the right script Garfield would have done great
1:07:35 its IMPLIED the suit isnt healing the disease, but is instead keeping the side effects of the venom in check. The venom kills the disease, and the suit keeps the venom from killing him
ok so that’s why everybody was commenting that hahahha
Just finished your video very epic ngl
Hey Kurtis! Did you know you were named after the lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man?
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To be fair, Peter bullying Flash after he was bitten by the spider was very accurate to the Peter Parker from the comic books. In the comics it was very clear, that if Peter could, he would fight back against Flash and even possibly be a bully himself. It was only after the death of Uncle Ben which he was partially at fault for, that he realised he should use his power to never let anything like that happen again.
He wasnt really a good person before he got the powers, it was the powers that made it possible for him to be good.
He then became very good friend with flash after getting to know him. I even read a spidey comic where flash was peter wingman for MJ, which is really cute.
Really, the worst part of andrew bullying is the electro scene in time square. Completely tone deaf and out of character, even back then at 15 i physically cringed because i knew this wasn't it.
i guess this is one of the morals that the story teaches ya. You gotta be responsible if you have a lot of power, otherwise shits gonna hit the fan.
I actually liked how Peter seems to struggle with this line of thinking throughout the entirety of two movies, and he still doesnt seem to grasp the concept that "not being a bully" isnt the only way to be responsible. You also have to be careful with the people youre supposedly helping.
On top of that even after becoming a hero, Peter could still be snarky and a bit of a jerk.
@@TeamTowers1 is snarky such a bad thing?
@@anthonyfernandez82 yeah i mean...snarkiness could add to peter's quips imo
i just love that when Peter's alarm rings the morning after he got bit, his instincts make him OBLITERATE the alarm
Lol I think tis to show hes super strong and doesn’t realize how strong he is lol
@@npcimknot958 yes yes, but it is waaaay funnier than i expected xD
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That alarm clock scene and the scene where the keys stick to his fingers when he's googling stuff...those made me laugh hard.
@@cagecrawford103 Aha! Sticky keys!
I just wanna point out. In the comics Peter Parker wasn't bullied only because nerdy, he was a self-outcast. Later in the comics when he becomes more confident a lot of people, and specially girls, notice how much of a good looking guy he is.
Wow shocking.
yeah he was never really a huge loser, he become quite a chad when he's in college actually lol and I like that Andrews version is more like that
He's drawn like the best looking man ever. No wonder
Seriously bothers me when people have this complaint about these movies. He's clearly a loner and on the margins socially within his high school. He's clearly a good kid and intelligent and handsome and all that, but we, the omniscient viewers get to see all those sides of him. His classmates just know him as that kid with the skateboard and camera who doesn't talk to anyone really, is incredibly awkward, and gets beaten up from time to time by the class bully.
Also, just because he's more socially adept than you were in high school doesn't mean that he's a cool kid. It just means you were really socially inept.
@@mouses_HK thats because the artist changed. Ditko perfectly illustrated how much of a nerd and outcast Peter was in his art whilst Romifa couldn’t help but make his characters buff and handsome. That’s why Peter became a chad in college
I think Emma shouting “Peter!” fits much better than her yelling “SpiderMan!” so thank you for the happy accident, Emma
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That's one of the moments I would of rolled my eyes to 😂 Emma is a treasure
What you think of will Farrel as j Jonah
That was an mistake but the director liked it so he keeped it in
I know it's been said before, but Andrew Garfield is not a bad actor. He blew me away with his performance in Hacksaw ridge.
That’s putting it lightly. He’s one of the modern greats.
He just got a poor script, that's all
I thought Hacksaw Ridge was decent, but his performance in Social Network was(imo) his best work
@@wDoucheCanoe Both are fantastic. It's like Jay said above, he just didn't get a very good script for these movies. I felt he nailed the snarky sarcasm of Spider-Man but I just couldn't picture him as Peter Parker.
Also he is really good in Under the Silver Lake
Note: The Spider that bit him DID die. Somehow petrified itself after he tugged the spider web. Its seen petrified and he put it in a jar and later shows Gwen. The spider you saw crawling was just a random spider and they only zoomed on it to show how observant he became.
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@@velhaw8737 you are a Toby meat rider jeez
I honestly appreciate the more darker side of Andrew's Peter, because out of the three, he's the only one stated in No Way Home to stop pulling his punches after Gwen's death. This Peter Parker was significantly more emotional than the others, it takes control of him.
I wish they rlly would’ve dived into that aspect of him instead of the movies we got
Man it’s such a shame considering Andrew Garfield is a big fan of Spider-Man
So glad he's coming back as Spiderman
He deserves so much better. He got some of the ugliest looking live action villains.
His movies needed a better script in general.
He basically nailed Spider-Man. His Peter Parker was great, though not quite up to par with Maguire. If he just got a better script than whatever the fuck Webb gave him, he could have been the best Spider-Man easily.
@@NoU-pf8fc I’m not. He’s awful as Spider-Man.
@@hellofellowhumans9353 *your opinion
I wish Elvis looked at the deleted scene where Peter's Dad comes back to talk to him in the cemetery. Andrew's acting in that scene especially was absolutely amazing and it was so emotional.
I agree, definitely should've mentioned that. I'm assuming they removed it because Peter's dad randomly showing up would complicate a sequel
@@ElvistheAlien Yeah they would have had to include him in the sequel, messing up Peter Parkers whole story arc but it was an absolutely amazing scene nonetheless.👍🏻
Deleted scenes are deleted for a reason lol elvis should trash them anyway... for example .. the full metal jacket deleted scenes would have wrecked a gr8 mov
@@MyTwoCents2 I know they are deleted for a reason and like Elvis said it would have messed up the sequel but it was still a great scene and I would love to see Elvis' opinion on the acting in it
@@MyTwoCents2 it's still worth to talk about it
The fact that they included how Gwen died and actually added in that the web broke her fall, but also her back, severing her spine is what killed her is amazing. I'm so glad they kept that in. She would have died either way but the fact that Peter, trying to save her actually 'killed' her is insane. I can only imagine this is something they would have explored further if the trilogy had gone forward. It's exactly like the comics. Would love to see Andrew handle that part of Peter's storyline. Very sad we never got to see the end of this trilogy. It was going in the right direction. They just fumbled everything else.
In the comics, her neck snapped from the whiplash. In the movies it looks like she was caught too late and still hit the ground. Either way, yes I agree
@@savonlofton you can literally see her body snap from being caught by the web, not hitting the floor
No? Completely unnessecary, disagreed.
Personally, the “Amazing” movies are some of my favorites of all time- I think they did the best job of doing the comics justice. I know its not a popular opinion, but still.
Her head hit the ground
It was great to see audiences actually cheering when Andrew showed up in NWH, him saving MJ was the best moment in the movie for me.
I was so happy he was acting like my Big Bro... for me it was that... eff MJ she can die in a ditch
It was for me too. Redemption baby, its a powerful arc. Hear me out....what if they actually did an Amazing Spiderman 3, it's a Spiderverse flick where Garfield is the mentor to Miles Morales and they team up with Emma Stone as Spider-Gwen. Instead of Peter popping into Miles world, have Miles and Spider-Gwen come to Andrew's universe. He gets his happy ending. I think it would print money.
I know I'm late to this but I loved that sequence so much. Before going to see NWH at the cinema I took the time to re-watch the two Andy Garfield films as I couldn't remember them. I didn't even remember what happened to Gwen and it shocked me all over again. The next day I went to the cinema and watching the parallels and call backs was great, but that scene, was the icing on the cake.
Bro it was awesome.
@@jesustapped That's very ambitious man. I'd love to see a 3rd film have him, just in his universe. Maybe struggling but trying to be a better person. He guilts about Gwen but helps out people. He plays basketball with the kids in Brooklyn. Helping a lady across the street. It'd be funny and cute that way. Andrew Garfield would do well there.. Add a villain also, that maybe relates to Andrew. He actually persuades the villain to change and get help. Idk, this is pretty ambitious too, everybody is typing about a newer story. I do hope we see it man! Andrew Garfield was wasted by a poor script 😢.. Sony come on bruh 😂❤
“He’s super tall and handsome, it doesn’t seem like the type of person that would get bullied.”
The one fatal flaw here is relying on high school kids to be even remotely logical.
Andrew is literally 5’10 so he is literally Spidermans exact height too lmao
Fr why would dudes judge how handsome a guy is to bully
right and ppl say he doesn’t look “nerdy enough” but idk man, at my high school i knew plenty of dudes like that who weren’t exactly bad looking but who weren’t popular or well liked and were into nerdy stuff. not a ton of ppl got bullied per say at my high school, but it was obvious who was popular or well liked generally and who wasn’t, and it was hardly ever abt looks and more abt who you knew. ppls idea of what’s “cool” or “attractive” differs too depending on where you’re from
@@mackenziebarnes3124 nah have you seen how this Peter Parker talks? He can barely even form a full sentence without stuttering. Also he's just plain awkward. I'm totally against bullying, but I can see why he would get bullied
@@divaalfirman3295 i agree!! i think ppl cant get past the fact that its Andrew Garfield playing him, so they project that onto peter in these movies
Fun fact:There is a deleted scene showing Dr Conners with his family.
They should have left in this scene because it would add more depth to the character and would have made the "Poor Peter Parker" line sting even more.
There's actually a bunch of scenes with Dr Conners son, but they cut out the plot line of Conners and his son completely, i think most of the deleted scenes or alternate takes would have made the movies better if they were added.
there were quite a few deleted scenes that should have been left in, including what happened to dr. conners superior at oscorp
That's really awful. One of the most interesting things about the Lizard is that he has a life outside of science: a wife and a son. This adds a tragic element to the story because many times Connors tries (and fails) to control the Lizard so that he can live a normal life again with his family.
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles
Exactly! I hope they use this in no way home instead of just making him a typical monster.
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles for sure! one of the scenes features dr connors telling his bullied son that bullies deserve to be punished in the worst way (mirroring his own being bullied by his higher-up at oscorp and paralleling what happens in another deleted scene, where, as the lizard, connors captures and kills him) and it really illustrates the tragedy of becoming more and more monstrous.
people say RDJ is the oly actor that can play Iron-man
people say Hugh Jackman is the only actor that can play Wolverine
People say Ryan Reynolds is the only actor that can play deadpool
but all of these statements are probably an over exaggeration
YET, there is literally no denying that there is probably no other person in the entire world that can play JJ Jameson, other than JK Simons.
Facts
He's pretty much great in everything he is in. I just watched 21 bridges, while not a perfect movie I really enjoyed it and he did another solid performance.
Andrew Garfield’s the middle child of the Spider-Man movies
@ElvisTheAlien_1...... this is the 4th time… this month I have gotten one of these
Literally
Literally lol
Explains alot
Andrew Garfield wasn't a terrible Spiderman. I loved his performance and honestly he's the reason why I became obsessed with Spiderman. The execution for the plot for both movies need work but it's not Andrew's fault. He was technically just being told what to do by the directing team. It's not like he wrote the scripts and it's not like he was in the board room planning out the plot of the story. I don't think he deserves all the hate. He's a good Spiderman and I'm tired of pretending he's not!!!
I disagree.
I agree.
I agree.
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100 percent agreed idc what anyone says andrew garfeild is my favorite spiderman actor not that i dont like the other one's tho
Reading the older comics from the 60s and 70s, I was surprised at just how egotistical and anti-social Peter Parker could be at times - he was more of an angry nerd as opposed to a shy one. The more I read I saw that was his arc. He would go from being a bitter young man to the earnest superhero we all know and love.
With what Garfield’s Parker goes through in his movies, to me, his performance is closet thing we have to the character in the comics with that arc. So, I’ve always had a soft spot for Andrew Garfield’s version.
Honestly it's weird when you look at the 60's comics and realise that both Garfield and Holland's films are actualy a lot closer to them than the Reimi movies, albeit in different ways. Garfield is as you said the "angry nerd" while also capturing the snarky trickster element of the character. While Holland's wacky teen comedy that occasionally gets interrupted, by superheroics, is pretty inline with 60's Spidey stories.
i always interpreted him as a bullied victim that felt bitter with the world, then lashing out at people and using Spider-Man as an outlet to let out all that bitterness, y'know? at least that's how I like to see it
YES
@@storm5ds68 kinda like in spiderman 3.. where peter even sees he gone too far and tris to get rid of the black suit
@@npcimknot958 The rudest Peter gets in the early comics is that he makes witty come backs at Flash Tompson when he's getting picked on or he disses and mocks the criminales he's fighting as the WebSlinger
Andrew Garfield was a really good pick for this role, sadly he was a victim to poor writing. We seen what he can do with good writers backing him (The Social Network) it was just super unfortunate the way things planned out.
Hacksaw ridge was amazing. Made me really love Andrew Garfield.
Wrong... the problem is he was too handsome. He can be a fan and really love Peter but Garfield is pretty hot doesn't work for Peter. Toby is the best at being a goofy nerd. Holland works because he is kind of a small dude. But he still doesn't even come close to Toby in dorkiness.
@@zacharytrammell3382 wrong
@@_Rick___Grimes_ you let carl die. No one cares what you think.
Better than ironman Jr pissboy MCcrumpetsandtea
Major props to Dane DeHaan for what he went through filming the second movie. The prosthetics, along with the heavy metal suit, would have been difficult to act in already but filming in such hot conditions in the clock tower is very impressive. It sounds like they had a lot of moments where his health was at risk while they tried to find ways to cool him down and he still stayed on and finished the film. I know he was probably contractually obligated to finish the film but it's still really impressive.
I don't think any contract would be valid if your life is on the risk if you take it to a judge.
They probably would've to change the script or do anything to facilitate his job.
He lost 15 pounds in a day while shooting clock tower fight scene
Dane is an actor, you gotta respect what he does. It was just the damn script..
_"But I feel like one of Peter's core personality traits is that he genuinely cares about people. The Peter Parker in the beginning of this movie starts out as a selfish bully with a power trip, and it feels wrong."_
Now see, I cannot agree with that. This is actually straight from the original comics. When Peter got his powers he used them for his own personal benefit and stated very clearly that outside his aunt and uncle he didn't care for anyone else. It was the death of his uncle that incited his change of hearth there. Here, a little bit more realistically, he only cares about revenge until Captain Stacy points that out to him in the dinner scene, at which point he realizes he's dishonoring his uncle's talk about responsibility and strives to be a better hero.
I think elves missed the point, he was supposed to start off as arrogant, selfish and cocky, but work his way to becoming a hero, the actual moment when he becomes spider-man is on the bridge after he saves the kid, then he finally says " I'm spider-man "
@@junaydfisher211 Exactly. It's also at that point that he stops looking for his uncle's killer, since he realizes that revenge is not important.
@@junaydfisher211 elves 😭
Yeah a lot of people miss this about Peter's original character. To the point where I think if they did a direct adaptation of him from the comics people would hate him. I love his character, but OG Peter has big school shooter vibes.
Also a very dumb argument considering raimis peter also beat the shit out of flash and let the guy who killed Uncle Ben go. Like people really want to act as if Andrew and tobeys peter are so different.
Andrew’s performance in these movies is criminally underrated
I’d totally believe the “responsibility” scene was straight out of a family drama
He’s a good actor just a bad script
But where was the actual line, "With great power comes great responsibility"?? The filmmakers didn't have the guts to repeat something from the previous movies because they knew it was inferior
@@LukeLovesRose tobi cried like an ugly punk
@@Awesomeness785 As he should over the dead body of his only living father-figure
@@LukeLovesRose not really. That was just ugly, gross, and disrespectful
The best way to deal with the killer never coming up again, is just having a short scene where peter comes to terms with the fact that he wont ever find uncle Ben's killer but he can stop other people from going through what he did and then he properly becomes spiderman, this would best after he saves the kid in the bridge
they do have a scene like that, right? Where he names himself spider-man to the man and the next scene where he sits in his room staring at his suit contemplating what he wants to do as spider-man. After saving someone for the first time he realised he needed to use his powers for good, that's how he feels when he's alone in his room. That's how I interpret it at least.
I mean the The Amazing Spider-Man games deals with the killer.
@@ape5490 that was quite literally the point of the scene but it goes over everyone’s heads because it wasn’t blatantly stated.
@@PeterParkerSpiderMan940 yeah I never understood why people got angry over Peter forgetting about his killer. Clearly it was a choice he made and it linked with his character growth. Pretty funny how many people missed it lol
@@ape5490 some people have their brain on just enough to notice that something hasn't been explicitly tied up, but not enough to actually recognize character growth.
Andrew Garfield’s performance in NWH proved that he could be a great Spider-Man with good writing. I’m glad NWH somewhat redeemed his version of Spider-Man.
I thought the Amazing Spider-Man movies were garbage even though they probably did follow the comics more. But the Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire movies will always be the better movies.
TASM were just weak and pointless, I’m glad they never made a 3rd installment.
As for the Tom Holland movies I didn’t care for them… or not Homecoming, anyway. It was too “kiddy” for me
@@nsasupporter7557 Gotta be honest, I find the Raimi Trilogy overrated. Spider-Man 1 is a good movie but not great, Spider-Man 2 is really good, and Spider-Man 3 is bad. TASM is better than Spider-Man 1, and 3 for me, and it’s debatable wether TASM 2 is worse or better than Spider-Man 3, but that’s just my opinion.
@@chriscarrera1172 the Sam Raimi movies aren’t overrated at all, if anything… the first movie was underrated because it always gets overshadowed by the second movie. Both 1 and 2 were equally great… I agree that 3 was kind of embarrassing and ridiculous, but still better than Amazing Spider-Man. The only thing the first Amazing Spider-Man movie had going for it was that it was better than it’s sequel. Both all in all, both movies were crap and I’m so glad they never made a third movie.
Ain’t no way Amazing Spider-Man was better than the first movie Sam Raimi movie! If you don’t think the Sam Raimi movies were good there’s something wrong with you… there’s so many great things about them, Uncle Ben’s line “With great power comes great responsibility,” Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin,
Aunt May’s line “I believe there’s a hero in all of us,” the train scene and the hospital scene. C’mon man! Those were the best Spider-Man movies… everything that followed was pure trash. Even the Tom Holland movies were better than Amazing Spider-Man… Amazing was pointless and weak
@@nsasupporter7557 The acting in Raimi's was bad other than Willem, Alfred, and J.K. Simmons to be honest. Didn't feel like the actors other than who I mentioned, were trying and Tobey isn't really convincing as Spider-Man (he does play Peter really well though).
What annoyed me most from this film was how the trailers and posters always made The Rhino seem like a major threat and character in the movie, despite how little he's in the movie for. They hyped up the fight between Spiderman vs. Rhino so much before this movie's release only to be completely blue balled by the anti-climactic finish between the two characters. We'll sadly never get to see what a 3rd installment of this particular Spiderman franchise would look like.
He was in the movie for like 3 minutes lmao and it was at the end 😂
THAT! LOL litearlly the last shot of the triller was the last shot of the movie LOL litearlly tahts when i thought th e movie was starting and then credits
*RHINO WAS THE REASON I HAD MY PARENTS TAKE ME TO SEE IT IN THEATERS AND HE DID NOTHING!*
Yeah, that made me kind of angry.
I really liked Andrew as Spiderman. The hate he gets is so unnecessary, and his relationship with Gwen/Emma Stones is down right awesome. Personally, they rushed the death of Gwen too quickly imo.
You can tell that Andrew was really passionate about spiderman, like on another level. Especially when in movie, peter gets more comfortable as Spidey, and Andrew has a blast with it
Facts
@@Halcyon1997 Yeah, it actually makes me sad…
Reminds me of Star Wars, how people hated on Hayden Christensen because he played Anakin and they disliked the character. I think some people forget that the actors don't write the script/story, they just act it out. Andrew is very talented, I hope he doesn't let the hate get to him.
@@xShadow_God my buddy said a few weeks back that Andrew Garfield was a dick because he refused to go to a Sony awards thing, where he would be presenting an award to a kid. This was after Sony let him go and I can't blame him for his refusal.
Edit: just an example of the hate the poor guy gets. Sony deserves the hate but sadly it gets put on Garfield.
I will die defending the Andrew Garfield universe....I know there were some things that weren't "great, or whatever", but his portrayal of Spider-Man was excellent to me...the mixture of the emo-kid with out of control emotions to the wise-cracking Spidey we all love worked really well, and gave a humorous edge to an otherwise gritty, dark story. Also, TASM 1 has my absolute FAVORITE Spider-Suit ever....super textured (like the Man of Steel Superman suit) and a little on the darker side of the spectrum (plus the eyes were black in the first movie...I LOVED that). I felt the skateboarding and the hairstyle was just an attempt to modernize the Parker side of the character (remember, nerdy is the new sexy) to make him a more contemporary "nerd" as opposed to the "Urkel/Screech" type nerd most people think of in a movie or television show...Andrew was a WONDERFUL Spider-Man, and I hope to get to see him don the suit a few more times.
I honestly thought that the Venom universe was going to be related to the TASM series....I thought that would have been a nice little retcon...finding out that Eddie Brock lived in the same universe as this version of Spidey.
I don't know why the TASM 1 suit gets so much hate? because i like it's sleek desing, it looks like something a teenager whould craft and sew togetter useing textured spandex, reflective sunglasses and a pare of tennis shoes
@@The_Blue_Otaku not really lol
I also love the textures and vivid colors of the TAS 1 suit, and I feel like it would be universally loved it the design was more classic. Like the design of the TAS2 suit with the textures and colors of the first. Also TAS2 is awfully bad
I was with you up until TASM1 suit thing. Its not bad, and I dont hate it like most people do, but its for sure not the best suit we've seen. It make sense considering the context of the first film though, I'll give you that.
@@The_Blue_Otaku exactly the texture looks like a glossy basketball mad satisfying
There’s not enough love for Hans Zimmer’s Electro Suite. It’s beautiful how well it portrays Max’s character with just music, his start as an innocent but troubled loner that desperately wants to be seen, the shock (no pun intended) of getting his powers, and the descent into anger and evil as his Electro persona consumes him
Right! He was dissing the soundtrack at points, and I was really hoping he’d acknowledge that one.
Was genuinely really catchy, and the addition of the voices gives a little eerie edge.
@@JustinTK416the soundtrack blows. Not Zimmers best work.
Yess!! I LOVED the music for electro
I’m glad more people are talking about this. All the Spider-Man actors are extremely talented and capable of playing the characters in numerous ways. What people take issue with is the writing and tone etc. things the actors don’t get to chose. All the Spider-Man actors are great and each one could be “The best Spider-Man ever” with the right script.
Nah.
exactly, each spiderman has their own unique ability to them. which makes them the well known spiderman in their universe. it's what makes them, them! not every spiderman is perfect or the same. their differences is what makes them hella special.
@@velhaw8737 dude why do u keep commenting on people's comments disagreeing like chill
@@velhaw8737 seething
I'm a huge Spiderman fan. He's always been my favorite hero. Andrew Garfield did a great job, it breaks my heart people give him such a hard time. The movies were enjoyable at the end of the day and you could tell he loved being the character
yeah sure *huge Spider-Man fan*
@@GordonFilms yeah ok *overused meme*
@@TeenPerspektiva agreed
@@GordonFilms boomer meme lol
@@BroTanimation tom Holland fans crying over a meme lmao
"Sometimes I prefer Andrew's Spiderman over Toby's interpretation. But I know I'm putting myself into a guillotine by sayings that"
Literally 90% of people after watching NWH: Andrew Garfield was amazing and we're creating petition to make TASM 3 or at least the next Venom with Andrew as Spiderman.
Ikrr Andrew is a fan favourite as SPIDER MAN , you'll be putting yourself on the guillotine by saying he's a bad spider Man
@@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 even worse would happen if someone said tobey was the worst of the 3
@@jeffrey7708 they'd probably get doxxed lol
I was made fun of for loving TASM and now everyone has changed their tune and it’s annoying because NO you were hating on it and now you suddenly love it
@@nyeispie only girls think it's good now, and it's because they think Andrew Garfield is hot
Something funny about the scene where uncle Ben tells Gwen about the picture in Peter's computer is that in the Latin American dub peter say something like "I was just editing the picture for the yearbook" and Gwen says " do you edit yourself too much?" And they laugh, but they say retouching instead of editing but it can also be interpreted as " do you touch yourself too much?" idk I always chuckle when I remember it
The bridge scene imo was the "transition" you were wishing they added. This is the first time he chose to use his powers to really save somebody, and you can tell the interaction from the father of the kid he just saved hits him hard. He liked the felling that happy ending gave him and realized he would never get his uncle ben back, but he could help prevent other peoples "uncle bens" from dying. This is why the murder plot is dropped from here on, he has moved past it and has officially "become spiderman", accepting his responsibility.
While they didn't beat us over the head and treat us like idiots spoon feeding this information to us, it's all there.
That's something I appreciated about Garfields version. It seemed like half the time in the Toby trilogy was repeating the " With great power..." line. Sometimes exposition, though less confusing to some, can't express someone's transition more than an emotionally charged scene.
Uh, no absolutely not.
@@velhaw8737 thanks for your input. I also liked how you said "uh" which made it even more insightful.
THIS... just.. THIS
even more so with the amazing body language, shot, and music after the kid got saved while he sits there. And afterwards he sees his mask, himself, fully accepting the responsibility of the Spider-Man
@@pranavnnair5 Completely disagree.
The glasses nitpick is funny, because peter in the og comics also wore them for quite a while after he got bit by a spider. He only stopped using them after flash broke 'em in issue 8. Also, wasn't Captain Stacy supposed to be right in that scene? Because of that conversation Peter realised that his actions, up until this point, were selfish, so he stopped going after uncle Ben's killer and actually became a hero. Also, again, Peter in the og comics was also a fucking asshole, up until his uncle died. He believed that his aunt and uncle were the only people who loved him, so he thought he had nothing to give back to the world. But to be fair, Andrew's Peter definitely had a good heart from the beginning, since he stopped flash from bullying a kid earlier on in the movie. Your point is still somewhat valid, just in a different way than you intented to present it.
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I actually think it's better that peter isn't a classic nerd and is more of a loner. It fits the setting and time period they're trying to portrait
Especially since Toby was very reminiscent of the 1960s campy Spider-Man, which was a full blown cliche of what nerds were portrayed at that time. Peter was always a loner, Andrew was awkward and nerdy but not overdoing it…Tom Hollands Peter is flat out a annoying smart ass who thinks he’s smarter than he really is and doesn’t really get messed with at all. Hollands became a loner when he got bitten and ended up losing his entire life.
Why is he a loner though when he has a seemingly loving aunt and uncle to help him through his abandonment issues that started when he was 4? You’d think they would have done more to help him through that in all the years they raised him.
@@austinjohnsen4430 it’s not the same as having your actual parents. Also he was 5 years old or around that when they left him. Toddlers become extremely attached to their parents as a survival mechanism, so for them to just leave and never talk to him again is going to stunt him emotionally and make it harder for him to connect with others even if he still has his aunt and uncle.
@@spider-jonah-man7148 It would maybe feel that way at first, but after a while I think most people would get use to it.
@@austinjohnsen4430 I edited my comment to elaborate on what I mean
In the first movie when Peter is arguing with captain Stacy, Stacy mentions how Spider-Man is operating with a vengeance. He pointed out how all the criminals were the same and how it must be personal. Peter had a puzzled look on his face as that was the moment he realized what he was doing was wrong. From that point forward he completely gave up on hunting his uncles killer, as he was greater than that.
Fun Fact: The reason this Peter Parker has a skateboard, is because is Andrew is a skateboard nerd and suggested it to Marc Webb.
yeah from the GQ interview. i love that idea tbh.
Honestly i liked it, i think it was cool how they used him skateboarding to develop some kind of sense that he could balance before and how they used it to help him learn how his powers worked. Like when he skates up the wall and sticks to it
Andrew Garfield doesn't actually skateboard the pro skater sam tabor was the one who did the skate tricks in the first amazing spider man movie
@@kingpanda6155 watch the GQ interview, he does skateboard.
@@howtheturntables1600 but he literally had someone do those tricks for him in the movie
I took his “WOOOOOOOOO” as a call back to the raimi films when tobey did it after first climbing the wall after being bit
“Andrew Garfield is too good looking” meanwhile Holland is a literal tween heartthrob lol I’ll never buy that statement
Omg yessss Andrew and Tom are very attractive and I think Tom’s is only seen as nerdier because he likes Star Wars but Bullies don’t care how hot you are they will still roast and beat you up to a crisp
Even Tobey on the first film was pretty good looking, I don’t get these people. And your looks have nothing to do with how people treat you at school, it’s more about your attitude, if you have low self-esteem and are kind of an introvert you can be bullied, anything else doesn’t really matter
@@gabriellascurain9029 EXACTLY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE "UGLY" TO BE A NERD OR GET BULLIED. Also, I don't get how peter couldn't skate. Skating does not instantly make you a "cool" person or immune to bullies. Most people who really got into skating b4 were outcasts themselves.
And the fact that in the comics Peter is good looking. His dating life is EXTREMELY active for a reason.
@@chromosome3242 exactly lol being a skater myself, most of us are somewhat considered outcasts except with the people we skate with unless you choose to skate alone
I honestly think the reason he's still wearing glasses after being bitten is the same reason he never grew internal webshooters in his arms. It hadn't evolved in his genetic makeup yet.
The common complaint of skateboarding making Peter "too cool" makes me think that whoever is saying that clearly doesn't remember that skaters weren't cool....
Yes they were. I knew a person just like Peter, not many friends, but was a cool skater. He was still liked by most people because he was chill. Skaters have always been cool.
@@mocapcow2933 yea this one seems to vary by where you live. Where I live it's like skaters are cool to the outcasts, but are still outcasts and considered "uncool" by the "general population"
@@CTEMmm Peter Parker lives in queens though, skaters are usually respected because most are chill. The ones I’ve met keep small circles but usually everyone likes them.
Yeah i lived in NJ & you were considered weird if you didn’t skate so this didn’t connect with me at all
@@andyrsonx2182 I know people from queens, and yeah, people who skate are cool. So it made 0 sense
Andrew Garfield is not a bad “Spider-Man”. He doesn’t have the greatest movie, but has the greatest performance from an actor. He’s such a good actor and doesn’t need the hate. He played the best Spider-Man (just get rid of the skateboard)
EXACTLY, minus the skate, he's the most accurate Peter/Spiderman by far
Ever
Agreed
His Spider-Man / Pete really dosent work for me - I agree 100% especially after his work in The Social Network too
Nope tom has all of the best qualities of both previous versions
The “everything flying out the plane because of the windows breaking out” thing is just not how it works. Rapid depressurization just doesn’t really do that (although I doubt he would be-able to keep typing). So all in all that scene is more realistic then 90% of other movies. Although it still in no way is completely realistic.
I'm guessing you've been in plenty situations where you've been plummeting to earth in a plane with a laptop
@@Icecreamcarpet wtf does it matter? Do I need to rip your head off to know you’d die if I did it? Nah
@@jasongreen6826 Aw man you got him
No, I disagree to a certain extent. You are just pushing it.
@@jasongreen6826 Yikes, change your diaper man it's okay
Haters gonna hate but I loved these two movies. They came out when I was in high school and I watched the first one literally 3 times in theaters. Not sure why it struck me so much but I loved this version of Spider-Man!
Agreed
Agreed!
The Lizard was actually capable of telepathically communicating and controlling other reptiles in the comics
He was in the film too but they deleted it
Garfield is one of the greatest actors of our generation. The movies themselves are pretty meh but his performance is just brilliant. If anyone’s interested, look up his performance in Angels in America, an 8 HOUR stage play where he steals the show and won a Tony award for his performance
Nah, now you're just pushing it. Grow up.
@@velhaw8737 You need to grow up if you can't handle other people's opinions.
He did so good in Hacksaw Ridge though...
absolutely- i highly recommend that people watch tick tick boom as well, it has to be one of his best performances
@@paradoxicalpaldean I disagree, that was a garbage peformance of his.
Andrew I feel gets too much hate, I think he did a fine job
I’m just glad to see him come back
Yeah, he did really good. I liked him a lot as spider man
He deserved the hate. Horrible Spider-Man.
@@hellofellowhumans9353 why?
@@randomslomo1875 just ignore him. He wants to start something so he can finally get the social interaction he so desperately craves
@@hellofellowhumans9353 go back under ur dusty bridge u troll lol
Just a reminder, the reason for all the PoV first person shots in ASM1 were because it was supposed to be 3D. I watched it in IMAX3D when it was in theaters. It was it's biggest hook during trailers and such before it was released.
I believe that Andrew's Peter is supposed to be another take on the nerd character. I had just revisited the movie and it's not the classic "broken glasses, only loves books" kind of nerd we're usually looking at in old movies and how it's usually stereotypically portrayed. It's more of an outcast/wallflower kind of nerd. He's more introverted, but he's not overly nerdy. You can see that he's trying to be more confident in the beginning of the movie, prior to being Spider-Man, but he lacks the real power to back it up. Though he's not the classic nerd that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko originally designed, I can see what Webb was going for and I honestly think it works in his progression as Spider-Man in this certain movie.
they did the "broken glasses, only loves books" stereotype with electro
Exactly, I think they even mentioned that during a comic-con panel. What's nerdy back then isn't nerdy now so it kind of grinds my gears when people complain that Andrew wasn't "nerdy". Also the whole "Hes too cool to be spiderman" argument is weird, like somehow an orphan whos father figure is shot and died in front of him isn't going to be edgy.
Agreed.
@@games_on_phone89 I was more talking about Andrew’s interpretation of Peter, with a lot of the complaints about it being he’s too cool and all that. You can have overly nerdy people in movies, because there are still people that are like that irl, but Andrew’s interpretation shouldn’t be bogged down because he’s not that cookie cutter nerd stereotype
It’s literally just ultimate Spider-Man
I think that the first Amazing Spider-Man movie was a great "modern" take on the Spider-Man origin story. I liked the web shooters and the suit especially. Even though the suit didn't look that good, it looked like something that someone could produce on their own with stuff ordered online.
Also a lot of the stunts were actually live action and that's a huge plus every time.
the movies had a lot of great moments, and Andrew Garfield’s performance definitely makes it so much better. Yes these movies have flaws and im not going to sit here and act like they are great, but not terrible. The second one was subpar while the first one was average but forgettable. Decent cinematography for action scenes, great webslinging, and Peter is meant to be a loner here instead of the nerdy type, which works. Him being Spiderman for revenge did tick me off until i realized that it was the entire point of the scene. He only becomes “Spiderman” after the table scene with Officer Stacy in which we are supposed to agree with his points. Peter learns from it and becomes the Spiderman we love. If 5 is average, TASM = 5/10 and TASM 2 = 3.5/10. Not great movies but Andrew himself is EASILY the star of the movies. A shame he didn’t have better scripts to work with.
It was shit
I think the suit looks good. I'm honestly a bigger fan of Tobey's and Andrew's suits more than any of Tom's. I like the Spider-Monkey suit though. (The all black one in Far From Home)
@@neonicon8500 it's looks like Trash and you should be ashamed
the atmosphere is amazing
Honestly the death of Gwen in the 2nd movie is still one of the most tragic scenes in any superhero movie for me. Both of these movies have a crapload of problems, but they also have absolute strokes of brilliance far above any of what the Raimi movies did. It's a shame it wasn't consistent at all
Yeah honestly they're not the greatest films ever, but there are some pretty good parts that are enjoyable.
Yeah, some moments in these films are definitively spider-man, like when he saves the kid on the swinging and fighting scenes, him saving the kid on the bus, the scene with the cranes, the electro fight, the arguments with aunt may. These movies have some really great moments and those moments should be the standard for the character going forward, but the writing is and villains are awful at times and kinda ruin it
@@junaydfisher211 I wouldn't say kinda, it indefinitely ruined it. there was so much potential with this series
I absolutely loved that scene. Fighting against all odds, you think he's gonna make it, but no, he fails and it breaks him.
It's tragic, but also really beautiful
@@VK4502B To be fair, anyone who knows anything about Spidey’s comic history knew how it was going to end.
I like the decision that Peter never finds Ben's killer. Kinda similar to Batman in the sense that part of his motivation is he'll never truly get closure.
How do you feel about Tim Burton’s Batman revealing who killed his parents?
@randomguy6679 not a fan personally. That makes the Joker Batman dynamic less cool cuz it removes the mystery. I'm not a fan of that Joker backstory personally
@@BrandonGiordanoOlder Batmovies were ass.
About Peter never finding Ben's killer; That was my favorite element of the original Death Wish. The vigilante lashes out at random street thugs hoping desperately to get the right guy by accident someday. But he never does. Eventually it stops even mattering any more.
I like that Spiderman started down that path and directed it to good.
Stan Lee didn't actually want Gwen Stacy to die. He's not the one that wrote it. One of the writers killed her off while he was on vacation. They had far more leeway back then to do what they wanted. Side note if you want to see a Spider-Man like character that shoots web out of his butt, check out the Venture Brothers. Brown recluse or something like that.
I disagree.
@@velhaw8737 That came out of the mouth of Stan Lee. Watch comic book man, on his cameo episode that's exactly what he says. Next time actually have a reason for disagreeing instead of just being disagreeable.
@@josephbons1 He's spamming lol
@@specialbeamvegeta4059 ah he's a troll with no life huh, appreciate the heads up.
Ace Jo or a bot which is a troll that sets their malice on auto so they can attempt to have a life
Attempt
The best thing about TASM and why it's my favourite spiderman is Andrew Garfield. He's an amazing actor. Every single emotional scene where Peter Parker is just being a down to earth human with problems is where I feel like he really shines through. When it comes to emotional moment and it's just silent where the actor ability is being tested, Andrew is probably the best one compared with the other 2 spidermen. However, after watching no way home. The last few minutes of the movie truly made him the best Spiderman.
Andrews character was messed up by the studio so much he's an amazing actor but saying he's the best one out of Tobey ( the best ) and Tom is just objectively wrong
@@squish1626 I agree so much with you here. However, the last 15 minutes of NWH really changed my opinion about Tom. He really gave me both of the Tobey and Andrew vibes, and MJ is just perfect too in that last 15 mins.
@@squish1626 Nothing is objective you cookie. It's an opinion, and my opinion is that Andrew Garfield is the best Spider-Man, even outshining Tobey and Tom and I watched all of the movies as a kid. Don't say it's objectively wrong.
I'm so happy Garfield's Peter Parker/Spidey was handled so well in No Way Home. He stole every scene he was in.
I do think Andrew Garfield’s movies are the “worst” but I still really enjoy both of them
Yes. But just because it's the worst of the bunch, it doesn't mean that they're bad.
@@burduprod he didn’t say they were bad but I guess you had to clarify
i really hated the second movie but i did love the action scenes, but i agree besides that
i did watch tasm 2 like a really long time ago so i might rewatch it
First one would’ve been better if it had a more grounded villian like kingpin because of the grounded tone but I’m sorry the only thing good about the second one is the suit but they are funny to watch
Norman's casting was spot on considering his actor looks like he's constantly about to keel over
Yeah. As much as I love Willem Dafoe's interpretation, Chris Cooper's version is easily my favorite interpretation of the character.
in peter's defense, i wouldnt help a shopowner who wouldnt let me take my drink over a few cents, especially with his "10 dollars minimum for take a penny" store policy my ass
I think Andrew felt the most like Spider-Man because he actually had quips when he was fighting and they were actually great and played off well. Tom Holland is more like a dumbfounded teen who's lost all the time. 'Whoah that's like a super big metal horn you got there Mr. Rhino person.'
Andrew still wearing his glasses after the spider bite could be a reference to the old comics where Peter still wore his glasses when he wasn’t being spider man.
I don't think so.
I actually think andrew garfield is a great spiderman and a great actor who actually behaves and emotes like a real person. I think he was just given a sub-par script.
I always loved Andrew Garfield’s movies since I was a kid. People switched up so fast after NWH dropped.
Gonna be honest he wasn't even a bad spidey. Haven't seen the movies in a while. I seen people be all like "People only like him bc he's hot"
They just seem mad because he actually has talent.
That's because his movies are terribly written. Garfield had the potential to be an amazing (pun intended) Spider-Man, but the writers fucked it up.
@@andreashort310 fr
When tasm first came out I was 21, love the movies and felt Andrew just got the raw end. His personality was perfect for spider man. Plus, a few people and a girl I worked with said I looked like him so ya I was kinda obsessed with the movies.
Being almost 30 now I see how cringy I might have been but seeing him in the recent nwh film made me super happy. Especially for him, at the very least put his performance on the radar cause he deserves it.
Still don't like him that much
Personally, if I found a pair of my dad's glasses if he wasn't with me anymore, i'd either change the lenses to be my perception, or if I didn't need glasses i'd get regular lenses. Peter doing this is completely understandable, and after the first scene he could have very well got them changed (still feel they should have added a line or two about it tho)
Nah, who the fuck likes wearing glasses unless you're hipsterfuck?
I get that most people think Peter is this pure soul that always makes the right choice and wants to help everyone, but originally it didn't start that way. Much like Andrew's version in the beginning of this film, Peter is an angsty teenager with a pretty bitter view on the world. He makes lots of mistakes and learns from them, but it took some time for him to eventually become the man he is.
Absolutely not.
@@velhaw8737 yeah man peter is modern day jesus
@@SenorGuina Completely disagree.
Ah yes, Peter Yagami
THE WORLD IS ROTTEN, I MUST RID IT OF ALL CRIMINALS AHAHAHAHHAHA WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE L…. I mean E
In the comics Peter is not that big of a nerd he is just smart and these movies did a great job at balancing his charecter
Nah in the comics he’s definitely a big nerd (although it depends on what you mean by nerd).
I mean like, annoying smart and socially stupid smart, he can handle social situations well
@@pigeon4529 The only way it may have worked that way if it was the first spider man movie before the classic ones, he was too cool of a peter parker even before he had any powers which was too off putting.
In the comics peter is smart than tony stark so yeah he’s a pretty big nerd
@@chillax360 You legit copied and pasted that same reply on another commenters comment. So you can't even come up with something original to say?
Sony used the 'main character breaks into a lab to investigate and gets infected with superpowers' setup for The Amazing Spider-Man and liked it so much they recycled it for the first Venom movie.
For all uncle ben knew that guy was a plain clothes cop, and he just instantly tried to steal his gun. Imagine if that was what it actually was, would Spiderman become a criminal as Uncle Ben was killed by the police? or would he just constantly think "man I shouldn't get involved in stuff I have nothing to do with as it can make things way worse".
The NWH depiction of electro proves that the “goofier” designs can work quite well, glad they gave him the retribution he deserves
nah the no way home design wasnt goofy imo pretty realistic looking
@@krudzinski240 I think he means that they modernized his original goofy design, by giving him the original electro mask but with lightning instead of an actual mask
Too bad both movies he was in sucked
the first amazing spider-man is actually my favorite because it feels more realistic in its wackiness, peter didn't make the web fluid but they showed he's smart by him making the shooter, he chases his killer and becomes a better person instead of starting off as a goody-2-shoes, and he makes the Lizard with the help of preexisting science that he added too. He smart but in a human way, and good but in a human way. He plays the spiderman character perfectly (even if he peter is bad)., and I think if there was better dialogue and a better directer it could be REALLY good.
plus the scene of peter adapting to his powers and skateboarding is really cute.
yeah i don’t know why everyone hates that andrew’s peter skates i think that’s a pretty cool addition to peter parker!
I think the director was great it was just the studio interfering. Mainly avi arad. He stuffed too many things into the movie, making it more of a product. Webb did an incredible job with what he had to work with. He didn't have much of a say in the movie which was the biggest problem.
I feel bad for Andrew he’s kind of like the “middle child”. I think his movies were great but the first one was definitely better.
Exactly
The "middle child" metaphor is probably the most accurate way to describe it
@@OZYMANDI4S agreed
No no, this deserves to be sh*t on, garbage series. Completely disagree.
@@OZYMANDI4S Agreed.
I just realized that Gwen’s father asking Peter to keep Gwen out of his life for her safety basically foreshadows her death which is due to her being involved in peters life and try’s to help him defeat electro leading to her death
Bint deserved her fate.
I feel horrible for Andrew Garfield. He got the short end of the stick and ridiculed by fans. It truly is heartbreaking
That’s not what I understand, the majority of people I speak to say that they liked Andrew way better than Tobey
@@nsasupporter7557who would these people be exactly?
@@StraightEdgeKnight19 stiff it
@@nsasupporter7557 exactly
@@nsasupporter7557 That's all anecdotal. Majority of Spider-Man fans *hated* Andrew's version of the character before No Way Home came out.
25:44 You're supposed to. Up until then, Spider-Man is basically just a bully in a Halloween costume. It's when Captain Stacy calls Peter out that he starts to realize that what he's doing is wrong, and it's the bridge scene when he becomes a real hero.
False. Not true.
The entire first swing sequence of the 2nd movie is fucking phenomenal. Gives me chills everytime I rewatch it.
batchest CHILLS
Absolutely not.
@@velhaw8737 Gonna say which swing scene you think is best? Or just deny
@@umplayful It looks like he's an Andrew hater.
@@jesspat7009 Andrew did his best with what he was given. The problem with these movies was the writing. Andrew is a fantastic actor.
Everything else in the series was fantastic. Casting, acting, VFX, everything.
That spider that bit him in AS1 was dead, the one he saw walking on his skateboards was just a different, house spider, different size and color, it was just to demonstrate his spidey senses and ability to detect other spiders (and possibly a wink and nod or foreshadow to being able to control/summon spiders)
Fun fact: Sam Raimi decided to give tobey organic webs because the web shooters he ordered didnt arrive in production on time
Fun fact: These movies are objective garbage and what I said is sadly the objective truth. Grow up.
@@velhaw8737 Get a job
@@velhaw8737 dude chill
@@velhaw8737 nice bait
@@velhaw8737 fun fact: no one agrees with you
I actually like Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man, I feel bad for him. He definitely deserved better Spider-Man movies
Your wish is Marvel's command I guess
I'm surprised you didn't talked about the infamous deleted scene where Peter's father is revealed to still be alive. Andrew Garfield was so great in that scene, hopefully they will do his character justice in No Way Home.
I think Andrew would have worked better as a slightly older, more experienced Spider-man, one who is already in college, more use to his powers, greater level of overall confidence. Still a bit dorky, and nerdy, but much less so than he is at the start of the comics kind of thing. I mean the general audience already knew Spider-man's origin, so doing it again seemed pointless to me, and would have worked better to skip over that part.
6:16 That "ohhh, Pizza!" While holding a box of pizza really got me.
actually peter in the comics was kind of a bully when he got his powers, thinking about getting revenge on those who bullied him pre-spider bite but you know its normal, peter was a kid, would make sense for him to get a bit too petty or obnoxious. that's why i never hated andrew's peter, i watch tasm movies more than tobey or tom, altho i admit that tasm 1 and 2 arent very good movies as a whole, they just have really good individual parts.
Yeah he was an ahole
But this is a movie not a comic book
No, disagreed.
@@diegotm4365 Completely agree, absolutely correct.
@@velhaw8737 what are you disagreeing to?
This whole thing about Spider Man being the chosen one to take the radioactive bite really kills these movies
Ikr? The whole point of spiderman is that ANYONE can be him. Crazy to think that whole thing was just throw out the window considering how it's a huge chunk of his character
That and the parents storyline.
I don't know what you mean. If he didn't get bit by the radioactive spider, he wouldn't be Spider Man, and there wouldn't be any comics or movies about him...
Yeah, and then the comics ended up pulling the same BS on an even larger scale. Apparently, there's a chosen one to be Spider-Man in every universe.
@Mister Majestic when did they remove that though? I'm not saying they didn't, just curious 'cause I haven't really kept up and hadn't heard about this whole "chosen one" crap - I agree, it sounds awful.
Love the Raimi trilogy for giving us the whimsy straight out of the comics, corny, off the wall, overall solid and charming comic book fun. Tobey is amazing and really conveys the conflicts and personality of Peter Parker. Also the memes. Love the memes.
The Amazing movies are a lot more grounded, and I’m disappointed we didn’t get to see more of what they had planned for this series with all they had set up. Andrew Garfield is definitely different from Tobey, but I like how he’s a lot more subtle in how he shows he’s a loner and a nerd with his vocal delivery and mannerisms. Wish we didn’t bother with the parents subplot, I like Gwen a lot more than Mary Jane with her chemistry with Peter, and I’m really glad Garfield got another chance in NWH.
MCU Spidey is pretty good, nothing else I can really say. A younger-looking Peter is really great, and I love Tom Holland selling how he’s just a boy filling in a huge role in a massive world. In a world with the Avengers, they nailed a Spider-Man to fit that universe.
Into the Spiderverse is still head and shoulders above the lot in my opinion. Absolute masterpiece.
I really enjoy the Electro redesigns in other Spider-Man material. Usually a suit to help control electricity better like in the PS4 game and No Way Home. It looks cooler and the little nod to Electro's mask with his scar in the game and the spark that appears on Jamie Fox's face in the NWH trailers are great ways of appreciating the past.
The electro in this movie is perfectly accurate to his Ultimate incarnation.
@@SoftEndy Not really. Here he just looks like a blue human, whereas in the Ultimate Comics when Electro becomes more powerful he looks like a being of pure energy.
@@bigdip298 He has electricity zipping across the inside of his skin in the movie, it's pretty close. If he didn't have the body suit it would be much more evident. Also we didn't get to see his full potential in the film either. They probably didn't go full zappy cause then you couldn't see Jamie Foxx's face
The criticism about Andrew not feeling like Spider-Man has never made sense to me, because that’s the point.
Peter is SUPPOSED to be a villain for the first half of the movie, and only changes once George Stacy tells him how messed up what he’s doing is.
Directly after he chooses not to go after the lizard (a choice that would have made him a hero in the eyes of the public) so that he can save a child.
I could analyze that scene so much more, but at the end of the scene he says he’s Spider-Man for the first time, and from that point on he’s much more like Spider-Man.
I certainly may agree with your comment to a minimal amount, aside from that your comment is complete bullsh*t, consider yourself blocked.
I also feel pretty bad for andrew. He had a lot of passion and theres this interview of him talking about how studios ruin it for fans. Everyone knows that hes a good actor but he just got screwed over by bad writing and directing. He definitely isnt my favorite spiderman and I havent seen these movies in a LONG time but it sucks that he got shafted so hard.
I actually kinda like that hes different than other Peter's, that hes kinda cool and he skates. Some people dont like that but like. Miles is cool as fuck, he has a lot of friends and he just moved to a new school and was just bullied for like what, a week? It's nice to see different interpretations of him, especially RIGHT after tobey being such a fucking dweeb. I dont like that hes kind of a douche, again I dont remember this movie and reviews are kinda the only things I'm going off of. I tried to see it before watching no way home but these movies are way too damn long
Andrew Garfield spider-Man is the middle Child
I'm glad someone is finally seeing the Amazing duology (or atleast, just the first movie) for all the good that most chose to ignore and look away from. The first movie has some REALLY good scenes that aren't talked about enough like the kid wearing the mask and how Peter had no hesitation to take the mask off and tell the kid his identity, that random kid? he's still out there, he knows who spiderman is, but it's a promise between buddies not to let the secret out. And ofcourse in the second, when he helps the bullied kid.
Andrew made an amazing Spidey, the banter was very hit or (mostly) miss in the second movie but I'll be honest, I forget Tobey's spidey ever made any banter (but I know the comedy was present and remember most of it fondly) aside from the 'Did your husband make that suit for you' joke. Tobey made for a much better *Peter Parker* but I feel where Andrew really shines is playing *Spider-Man*. That's not to say Tobey was a bad Spidey, nor am I saying Andrew was a bad Peter. Andrew just portrays the childish glee of becoming the Spider as a highschooler who hasn't had anything interesting happen in life and now he has tons of opportunities opening up, oblivious to the depression he'll face due to being Spiderman. While Tobey embodies the opposite, he embodies the Depression that is sadly very common with Spidey nowadays in the comics, where they make him tragic just to make him tragic. But Tobey's movies did it in a convincing way when everything tumbles down. Overall both have their own unique greatness and I would've loved to see how Peter would've grown in Amazing 3 but, ya know.
I feel like Electro would've been MUCH better if they took the Spectacular Spiderman approach (where he got the name Electro via a Spidey banter like you said), and his suit is more of a safety thing than a silly costume while his body is pure yellow electricity. That, and there he geniuenly freaks out and tries to hide his face and act normal, getting coffee, albeit his anger issues do not help with his electricity going haywire and spidey just auto assumed he's a bad guy and kicks his ass, showing how he's still young and reckless and he goes on to regret being too fast on the trigger.
While on the topic of costumes, design, and what could've been. Something about how the Lizard's CGI looked in the first movie was the biggest turnoff for me at the time, not the fact it was a reboot. Plus the fact he's naked and isn't even wearing the classic Coat, Black Shirt and Hulk Pants.
Oh also I'm convinced the inclusion of so many characters and the absolute bloat that happened in Amazing 2 was the same interference as with Spidey 3: the Studio. 'Let's appeal to those who only heard of Green Goblin' was prolly their mindset with how rushed Harry was since they took their time with Lizard in the first movie.
That Electro solution sounds pretty good but has he not seen a picture ultimate Electro since that was the look they were going for, not that it turned out well. That was just one big oversight in this video with all the references to Dr.Manhattan and orginal Electro's appearance that it got to me more than I'd like to admit.
@@draykohunter6805 I think what he meant over all is the fact that Blue Electro is not nearly as iconic and outright doesn't work in this movie. It's way simpler but, ya know, people don't know about it. I could've sworn Ultimate Electro was only ever known for a very small period of time when this movie came out (and he started out Yellow and turned Blue iirc, unless that's only in the game).
NO tobey was the worse peter, hes more of a bitch than the wise cracking peter that weve seen in animated tv shows. HE was the most senistive pussy form of spiderman. Like spiderman was never arrogant but, it was as if he never truly got over his bullied existence until like the third movie. I genuinely dont get how people like his peter or spiderman. Like hes just not the hero or guy id look up to hes someone id bully lmao
I think Andrew Garfield was "panned" by default. I grew up with this character in the comics. You can't deny Andrew's charisma positively radiates.
Andrew Garfield is actually my favourite portrayal of Spider-Man along side tobey (I alternate between the 2). Andrew can certainly pull off the socially awkward teen vibe very well, and whilst his interpretation of Peter might not be as great as Tobey’s, his version of spider man is absolutely on point, which leads to some of the best scenes in any spider man movie. It’s just a shame that Sony and the Writers kinda messed it all up, but I hope he gets some sort of redemption for his character in No Way Home. Also, I like how everyone says that Andrew looks too good to play Peter Parker when the current spidey looks like Tom Holland lol (not to diss Holland’s version of Peter cause he’s great, but still).
His redemption is complete
@@mmobhm2059 facts
Yes!! His charisma in the suit is perfect
No way home did him justice
tom holland looks like a kid LOL
i grew up on raimi movies and the idea of spiderman producing web and shooting them from his wrist just seems natural to me, now that i understand the comics more it would make way more sense for him to produce them naturally if he was in a universe where he was a mutant instead of a superhuman.
26:50 this is really good that you realized this because this is what the original peter parker WISHED he could do. He would constantly wish that he was stronger so he could beat up his bullies and he was always angry inside. Original peter had lots of anger issues too even before becoming Spider-Man so I think Andrew Garfield's version is really great and faithful. He gives us a realistic view on a teenager learning that he has the responsibility to help others as a hero
All the stuff with Peter's parents is what I really don't like about the Amazing Spider-Man movies, especially everything in the second movie. The fact that these movies practically make it seem like it was Peter's destiny to become Spider-Man is so stupid. Spider-Man's entire point is that it could be literally anybody behind the mask, Peter was just some random kid who happened to get bit. The glorification of Peter's parents in these movies is just so weird and unnecessary.
You know, it really does say something when a couple years later Sony released a Spider-Man movie whose message was basically a giant middle finger to the whole idea that only Peter could have gotten bit (Spiderverse, if it's not obvious enough already)
@@michaelvessel4604 I think it’s less Sony and more so that Phil Lord and Chris Miller truly understand Spider-Man as a character. Stan Lee has said on multiple occasions that Spider-Man was meant to be a hero that everyone can relate to, he’s just an average person who was thrust into the life of a hero. And Lord and Miller understood that point, that anyone can be Spider-Man.
@@SquashyButton in general, most media's do get that right about peter/Spider-Man character's. So it's a shame to see TASM wasting it.
Raimi peter was a student with early adulthood issue's, insomniac Spider-Man was at a very relatable stage in his life where he was confused about the future and relation's, and miles was all about transition from teenage year's to adulthood. They could've easily done something similar with andrew version, he's based on the ultimate comic's and he had an arc where he felt he didn't do enough for the people's close to him. Something like that was a perfect fit for the second movie, and again, relatable.
SPOILER TALK ABOUT SPIDER-MAN 3: NO WAY HOME. DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED IT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
After watching Andrew Garfield in No Way Home, I appreciate the consistency of the characterization and details of Andrew’s Peter Parker. When he mentioned what has happened to him after the death of Gwen Stacy and how he became vengeful and stopped pulling his punches, it strongly connects to how Peter handled his grief with Uncle Ben. Peter was extremely in grief and guilt-stricken to the point where he fell back to his old ways of being aggressive to his victims. It goes to show how Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man is an extremely flawed individual. He’s still human in the end. Which is kinda strange for me to say now that I would be open for Sony to re-open the Amazing Spider-Man Franchise and have one last movie with Andrew Garfield again to properly wrap things up.
THIS.
andrews peter was the most realistic most HUMAN most RELATABLE Peter Parker. Not only the way his acting was, but the issues he had and the anxieties he had of what was going on in his life felt SO REAL. He's a human who doesn't have a clear sense of direction until he loses Gwen. Gwen WAS his direction, he always came back to her.
He looks for answers he tries holding onto things that he loves because he doesn't want to feel the same pain he felt when his parents left him.
He's a human. He's a man. He looked for revenge because of his uncle, he realized that wasn't what Ben would've wanted and knows that he can do better. He has the hope and motivation to keep pushing on to be spider-man because of gwen, but without her he feels lost and depressed.
That speech that gwen made did not bring him back to normal. Instead it gave him a push he needed, but did not patch up that deep deep wound he has. No Way Home did a great job at presenting a tortured Peter.
I just want to see where he goes from here on out. Weather it be in another crossover movie or maybe he gets his third solo film that he deserves. I just need more of Andrew.
When he saved MJ it seemed cathartic to him, like he felt he saved Gwen in someway. Even if she's not the Gwen he loves he saves her for a different Peter, it's nice to see that.
@@mouses_HK woah
I'm crying after reading your comment 😪😪😪💖💖💖
Peter was a skater because Andrew thought that if HE was Spider-Man, that would be how he chose to express himself (similar to how Miles uses graffiti)
Garfield was actually my first Spiderman, The Amazing Spiderman 2 being my first live action Spidey movie. I've only ever seen Spidey in comics before then, and I was blown away by how well Garfield portrayed him on screen. Maguire may be the classic, and Holland may be the natural, but Garfield will always be my Peter Parker.
Just a correction: Dr. Kafka's not the Chameleon; in the comics, she was just a normal psychologist who's the head of the institute that's keeping Cletus Kassidy (Carnage)
False. Don't spread false info pal.
@@velhaw8737 It isn't lmao
@@qwerty5684 the guy is just spamming for attention
@@Nai_101 yes
Honestly had no issue with him playing Spidey. I had an issue with the writers disregarding big character points to make him "cool". Spidey is a dork and i think if given the right script Garfield would have done great
Oh my gosh. Just because you’re a loser doesn’t mean Peter is.
1:07:35 its IMPLIED the suit isnt healing the disease, but is instead keeping the side effects of the venom in check. The venom kills the disease, and the suit keeps the venom from killing him