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If you haven't yet I would check out the old anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes as it is the space opera equivalent to GoT except it actually is able to perfectly wrap up its story and is focused very much on the world shaping the events of the characters like you wanted with this.
What's crazy too is that they have the nerve to make a sequel. Why couldn't they just spend more time with season 8 to be able to address all the cool aspects of the story-line? I'm still mad about the white walker's. I wanted John to become the new Night King after he fell in love with Daenerys. I wanted him to destroy everything in King's Landing, I mean he has a reason to want to do that (after losing his humanity which keeps him from doing so). Plus, Daenerys would have to have tragically killed him which would have made sense for the Azor Ahai lore I read not too long ago. This was really a basic show. It's unbelievable that they put so much effort and couldn't make the ending worth-wild. I wasted a few years of my life. It's clearly obvious, whoever made this show was inspired by D & D, Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars and couldn't pull their own weight. Y'all better give the writer all your blessings. He is the only person who can save this story-line, now. Daenerys IS ruthless, but every king is ruthless! Why is this a bad thing? When as a king you're literally playing God with people's lives! That is the duty of a ruler, that is what a ruler is! They tried to pull a "Democratic-system," but this was just stupid! Through all the events I was expecting to happen, to make the ending more realistic (if that was what they were trying to go for), Daenerys would have had to become a little more ruthless or "mad" due to the fact that she is desperate to protect her people after the war with the white walker's (who didn't even seem like much of a threat in the real ending btw). This makes for an excellent story-line to show that history repeats itself and there is always more to the story. After experiencing betrayal and traumatic massacres of people she kind of cared for, THIS WOULD HAVE CHANGED HER. The Daenerys we knew and loved would have had a GOOD, bittersweet ending. Bran should never have been king, he should have became her right hand because he is the link between the past, present and the future. This is the best person to be the role as an adviser, not a king. Bran was depicted as a wise man/boy, never ruthless. He can't lead wars! He is in a freakin' wheel chair. If all you need to be is a tactician to be king, why couldn't Tyrion be king?
Me too! I've been reading these books since 2002. I'm insanely angry they got so lazy with the writing. Seriously, I feel insane when I'm yelling at my TV.
HBO`s view was why should we put any more money into the ending when we can save money and cut the ep`s needed that was needed to show why people did what they did out of no where. I hate when they do this as at this point they do not care about the show as there is nothing more to be made. But they did leave it open for season 9 as the dragon brings her back to life based on where he flys.
@@somejew9163 Pretty sure the "rock" was just a piece of Winterfell's wall, which the dragon completely destroyed only minutes earlier. Unfortunately there is just no plausible explanation other than the producers being morons.
It's been almost 3 years since the show ended and my God, the finale still pisses me off till these days. The finale felt like when you have 20 minutes left in writing exam and your exam paper is still empty because you didn't study last night.
show died when writers fooled the audience to believe that jon isnt a bastard like bro raegal was married to elia martell with 2 children .he fooled lyanna with a secret marriage cuz it wasnt real
"Well the bells angered Danny because it reminded her of the time she had to do the walk of shame naked in the city.....we later remembered that it was actually Cersei and not Danny"
But but, don't you see! It was all foreshadowed! Jaime pushing Bran out the window in S1E1 was a vital clue to predict D&D throwing all of his character growth out the window in S8. /s Sad thing is, I could probably convince someone that is exactly what D&D were aiming for.
but you gotta admit, it's impressive how one season ruined the whole show. fans couldn't shut up about it but after the last season it was like the show never existed. usually shows like this leave behind an impact and some kind of legacy, people talk about it years later for nostalgia’s sake but not with got. it's only talked about because of it's horrible last season.
Actually this isn’t unusual, even for shows that ended well. Eventually hype bursts and people move on, it’s just natural. The shows that still get talked about are considered classics that stand alone. And if fans don’t want GOT to be forgotten, then maybe try concentrating on what you liked about it, not constantly bashing what you didn’t.
It's not really only the last season. Season 7 was also dumb as hell (actually the whole thing started collapsing slowly back in Season 5), but people still had hope, because hope dies last. But when it became clear that this is the end, that last bridge was burned.
@@TheaterPup the last seasons deserve to be bashed though. It's an honest reflection of the writers fucking up something amazing. Unfortunate but that is the legacy of the show now. Trying to have selective memory about it doesn't make it true. I doubt it will be forgotten but it won't be remembered as something that was executed well, but for the biggest missed potential in recent tv history. happy days is considered a classic too but people also always remember jumping the shark to the point that it is a common enough idiom used by people who don't even know the origin of the phrase.
Only he wasn't fully grown. Balerion was considerably bigger than largest of Denerys dragon and that is Drogon. What bothers me is that flame breath became laser dragon breath of doom that literally cuts stone.
Dark O-man balerion lived to age 200 and vhagar lived to 180. drogon, viserion, and rhaegal were only like 8! dragons never stop growing, therefore danys dragons are still practically baby’s
Season 8 was so unimaginably bad that, Game of Thrones, a show so culturally important to the world, has since become completely irrelevant. Its only existence is to remind everyone how not to conclude a story.
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 same, even though the seasons previous to the last one are godly, I don't feel like re-watching at all :/ damn season 8 ruined everything.
Bro, Game of Thrones disappeared completely. People were stuck at home, doing nothing, and NO ONE watched this show again (or started watching it). That's how bad it was.
Season 1-6: Watch each episode 10 times and 1 UA-cam video discussing the episode. Season 7-8: Watch each episode 1 time and 10 UA-cam videos about how terrible the episode was.
@@joeltaveras1926 Agreed I loved 1 thru 5 besides the Dorne arc they was tripping with sand snakes. 7 &8 didn't have much character development and plot holes to say the least.
I don’t have an issue with Danny going insane-that’s a perfectly fine, tragic end to her character arc. Not every character needs a happy ending, especially not in this show. BUT IF THAT’S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THEY NEEDED TO START SETTING IT UP IN LIKE SEASON 5 OR 6. Up until season 8 we had no true indication that Danny would perpetrate violence like this against civilians.
They expected us to believe that crucifying a bunch of slave masters was decent enough foreshadowing. Pretty sure The Punisher would brutally torture slave masters, but he would never in a millions years murder an entire city of innocent people or even one single innocent person. Being insanely cruel to cruel people doesn't automatically make us think "oh they will do this to innocents eventually."
@@crupt1023 she spent so much time literally saying “I don’t want to be queen of the ashes” and “I want to break the wheel” and “I will leave this world better than I found it” etc. D&D really thought they could just erase all of that character motivation and give us some flimsy reasoning like “bUt ReMeMbEr sHe KiLlEd ALL ThE SlAvErs GUUUYYSS!!” and that we would just accept that.
She was literally a protagonist until that 5th episode. I remember the start of it with her looking like an absolute fiend actually made me laugh, like "Well she's clearly now crazy Targarean"
Jack Yes . I also tought Wolf Pack stays together . Bran on in the iron throne doesn’t make any sense to me. If I really want to know if there is a country in the west of Westeros , I will ask my three eyed raven brother .
I always loved how the skeletons were able to punch through inches of stone, when just a few episodes before one was held in for hundreds of miles in a wooden box
Watching Jon Snow - arguably the favorite character of the whole serices - being turned into an unimportant idiot was the saddest part of all. They should have left him dead after season 5.
Yeah Jon in the early seasons was portrayed as a principled man but he was never a dimwit. In fact he was smart and competent in a lot of situations. In Season 8 he went full autistic. His dialogue made me want to puke.
Gotta love how Melisandre just casually reveals she could light whole armies' swords alight the whole time. Sure was nice of her to keep that to herself when Stannis' men were freezing to death...
Dylan Ackland if the Lord of Light even exist. There’s no concrete proof he does. In the books other characters who are not Priest of Rholhor pull similar magic as her
@Infinity Stones I was just making the point that by the time she perished,she had learned all she could. She wasn't going to discover anything else that she didn't know before. The writers simply made her inconsistent in that some things worked, some things didn't. I guess depending on how they wanted the story to go, really.
@What ? those two morons wrote the final seasons like this, had no interest in continuing the GoT show but wouldn't give up the show to other writers, so they came up with this joke of a last season that's why
They destroyed the entire series by rushing the final season because they were so eager to work on a Star wars project that they ended up getting canned from. The biggest L in television history.
No, the shit started in season 5 and was already at peak in season 7. Season 7 is almost as bad as 8 but all the brainless fanbois did not see a damn about it because "Uh there is a cool dragon burning lannisters uhuh". Some people weren't even surprised with season 8 being terrible. I wasn't.
@@NB-or8rs i didnt Notice That many mistakes coz we are all just Used to The epic Good wins over evil shit so Then i started rewatching then i Started noticing All of the mistakes I did notice It while watching it first time But i didnt mind that
@@NB-or8rs hmm i was really obssesed with this show Like this was the only Show that Got me obssesed with something like This show Made me have goosebumps like real goosebumls for first that i know of Now the villains are D&D like how are they even know as a Professional Writers What qualification do they have idk Much about them btw But still Bro how can 2 proffesional Writer fuck up this much
Oh ye and with Jaime, him pretending to join back with Cersei and killing her for the good of the realm would actually have been very fitting, as it would circle back to him killing the Mad King in order to save the realm, and once again sacrificing his honour for the people as no doubt people would still hate him for killing his sister, even if she was insane. But no of course instead he says he never really cared about the little people, even though he literally gave up his honour to save them previously. My GOD this was so dumb.
and it didn't make any sense that the northern forces would arrest him in the first place. he just helped them defend winterfell he could have just rode up to the lines and said hello, i'm here to try to talk some sense into my sister they could have had him try to do that and fail, then he could decide to die with her in the seige
Well I hear a lot about how he thought cersei would come help but did you see him acting the scene?? Even Tirion doesn't believe she will show up but he is hoping she will and ignoring his logic because of how hopeless the situation is. Have you ever went all in on a hope you know is unlikely to happen?? Perhaps he was also trying to keep morale up. But watch it again and you can see in his eyes and the way he speaks that he doesn't really believe it. The writing is shit. I'm certainly not going to argue against that but tirion was being an optimist a lot towards the end
did it? his advice wasnt so rewarded by the outcome, but it seems there is another spin to that: why cersei does not kill tyrion whenever she has the chance? easy. she loves him and hates him. like a sister loves and hates her brother. also she knows him facing her is a sign of trust and brotherly love. they know each other and their tricks better than anybody else. they might be on opposing sites, but they have a bond nevertheless, always. Plus: tyrion, in his role as "Hand of the queen" and advisor in reality helps cersei all the way. his advises to dany are often the first and logical suggestion but are always well crafted considering the countermoves of cersei and giving his sister the opportunity to outmaneuver dany without tyrion losing his face. its like a cat and mouse game between him, cersei and dany, and in the end you can see he is crushed seeing his brother and sister dead in the ruins after dany breaking the rules and just burning down the city. he tried to save them without switching sides again, and he did a mighty fine job until the very end, he wasted troops and ships at the lannister castle, he wasted troops and ships on sea at kings landing, he always considered how to split forces and give cersei a window to crush a good chunk of danys forces instead of throwing them all at once at kings landing and winning by numbers. tyrion was a genius.
The ultimate subversion: we became accustomed to main characters being killed off, but nobody would have expected they kill the whole series. Well played, simply genius!
it was so bad that it's as if they are either psychopaths that hated their audience and wanted to make them suffer or they were threatened into tanking the show, "tank the show or you lose your lives", haha..GOT's ending is suspiciously awful
My biggest disappointment, was that they treated the Dragons, which are the closest thing to a god-like entity in the Realm, like any other character's horse. Raegal deserved better. He deserved to be by Jon's side with Ghost in the end. I almost give them the SMALLEST slack for the Night King to kill a dragon, he's been the villain looming in the dark since season 1, but the jackass Euron we got in the show, on bolt thrower, ON A BOAT, FROM A MILE AWAY? AND IT WAS A KILLSHOT? Maybe MAYBE shooting a wing, I might give them that slack, BUT THE HEART? AND THEN THE NECK? Absolutely ludicrous. Game of Thrones deserved better, the actors, cast, and crew deserved better, GRRM deserved better, and we the viewers deserved better.
But what's worse is that the Night King and Euron somehow eyeballed a kill shot to the heart miles up in the sky, but somehow none of them could hit Drogon, the one carrying all of the important people, right in front of them. Like he hit three or four kill shots on Rhaegal high in the sky but none of his fleet could hit Drogon right in front of them? And the Night King could've killed Jon, Dany and literally everyone if he hit Drogon instead but chose Viserion? That was the shit that pissed me off
@@FollowPrincess It's not them being a "want everything your way" person. It's them being disappointed at the fact that one of their favorite shows fucked up its ending so bad. It's not just them that's disappointed jackass, it's a lot of people. So maybe get off your high horse and gtfo.
@@dantethewanderer4989 I watched all the seasons of the show as well, I am not dissapointed. I did not expect them to do anything wild that last season, regarding the issues concerning time. Why should I be on my "high horse", when we are all in the same boat? lol, I just don't complain because the ending was not how I wished it was. Obviously more fans then not wished they got the perfect ending, and don't see that they make it out to be worse then it is. Fans will always find a way to make their beliefs feel justified, hence the "got s8 ruined" videos. Trust me, its not perfect, but it doesn't necessarily need to. I think season 8 is definitely way better then you make it, but not necessarily "good", per say. Far from bad tho, regardless. Stop complaining, I have made alot of people second guess themselves, people dont even know why they hate it even. Stay quiet please, stop bitching.
Bronn is a master of coins is the worst thing about season 8 he literally does not know anything about money he even told tyrion he does not understand the concept of lending money
Jay Bird there was a consequence! He got the Tyrell ancestral home, lands and title. Which is DUMB. The castle, fine, whatever, but why the hell would he be be the overlord/warden of the east?! That is given to the house most able and loyal to the crown, to manage and deal with funds between other lords in their district. Bronn knows nothing of household accounts, crop growth and what to plant when. Highgarden in a farming kingdom! Why wouldn't he give it to Tarly?! Who WERE banner men of the Tyrells? They were a very old, noble family, and the man left to lead it is a close friend, loyal beyond doubt, learned, good natured, and a maester in training. No... The sell sword is obviously better equipped to lead?!
yuan John no they aren't. Even IF his little brother, who in the books is significantly younger than Sam and likely wouldn't be old enough to go to war and die with his father, the Lady Tarly, and Sam's sister would still hold the house name and honours. Females can become the heads of houses, lady Whent of Harrenhall for instance. That said, Sam is still alive, and he has a 'son' who would be Lord Tarly.
Dragonglass & Valerian Steel: Can kill White Walkers because they are infused with dragon fire Dragon fire itself: Doesn't do shit against the Night King.
Bro that's what I'm saying. It makes NO sense. If it's not the Dragonfire that gives Valryian steel and Dragonglass their anti-White Walker properties... THEN WHAT THE HELL IS IT???
Lol, Season 7: "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives". Season 8: Well, bye Jon. Bye, Arya, Bye Bran, and Bye Sansa. Also, never mind that Bran can just tell Arya about what she is looking for West of Westeros.
The fact that Jamie's character arc doesn't end with him once again having to be the kingslayer is genuinely ridiculous, even without that garbage line that completely regresses his character
@@hyperlinkhmv Yet they still gave themselves a whole two years... I'm sure HBO paid for many spa breaks and champagne with caviar in that time while D&D were 'creating"...
So basically the show writers did well when they had the books as a template, but as soon as they had to actually write something from scratch - like an ending - they totally dropped the ball. Almost like they aren't good writers.
@@aLmAnZio They didn't run out of material, they just chose not to follow the material they layed out in the books. The best example is the character of Stannis Baratheon, who is going to win in the books against Houses Bolton and Frey when in the show, he died after killing his daughter, something that wouldn't happen in the books. What they did to his character was so fucking annoying, and they only did it so they can show off their fanfiction for characters like Jon and Dany and also make things simpler and more basic with it's later good guy vs bad guy plot lines.
I think that everyone dying would have been a better ending. This isn't me being bitter. I legitimately think it would have been a valid choice. The good people got together and did their best, but it simply wasn't enough. And it could have gone a different way if Cersei had actually joined forces with the others. But because she was petty, selfish, and short-sighted, and because she was willing to risk human extinction to get a leg up on her enemies, she doomed everyone (including herself) by inaction. She gets to stew in this knowledge as the Night King's army, now joined by everyone who fought in Winterfell, marches toward her with no hope of being stopped. She wins the Game of Thrones... and it doesn't matter.
Yesss!! Just finished this about 2 weeks ago and this would've been perfectly awful for her 😭 then have the "ice king" kill her and then he sits on the throne and his horns grow into a 👑 crown, would've been dope.
_"I know a killer when I see one."_ -Arya Stark. Oh, what gave it away, Isaac Newton? The smoldering rubble that used to be King's Landing? D&D, off to bed without any supper.
Now for Arya to waste ten minutes staring at a horse that could have been spent on actual plot, only to have it disappear the next episode, leaving it as nothing important(like most of the artsy shots of season 8).
Running out of book material really exposed D&D's writing skills. Their writing strategy is as simple as ticking a checkbox. It doesn't matter if it makes a smart character stupid. It doesn't matter Arya's entrails get stabbed, she's still gonna survive. It doesn't matter if Jamie's heel turn is too quick and happens overnight. All they care about is ticking every box on a checklist.
Why does Sansa say she thought Tyrion was the most clever man in the world? She barely spent any time with him. And he literally did nothing clever in her presence. She’s once again speaking as though she’s been watching the show, or from the experiences she would’ve had in that world.
I mean, I have never spent time with Albert Einstein and I'd say he was pretty clever. Point is, people talk and Sansa was bound to hear it since they were living in the same place. Given that she kinda learned a lot from Cersei and the Lannister ruling including distinction between propaganda and the truth, since she's literally witnessing it, yeah, Sansa saying that is not far fetched.
There were other worse characters that got a better ending. But making daeneyrs look like the only bad person is like wtf???!! There is other foolish characters what about them ????
My favorite part and the sweetest irony is that they rushed this project to do the star wars, but they ruined GoT and then didnt even get star wars ahhaahhahahahha
I was actually pissed as Dincklage for being such a good actor and making me feel something when he found Jaime and Cersei under that rubble. Like, cut it out, I'm trying to be pissed over here.
If you were thinking about the actor and not the character, it kinda reveals how shitty the show has became. All immersion was gone. And yeah, Dinklage was still amazing despite this.
@@mcyrenne14 All I could think when Tyrion was unearthing Jaime and Cersei and holding the brick... was "SMASH THE BEETLES! SMASH 'EM! KUHNK, KUHNK, KUHNK!"
I still remember Arya killing the night king…. Me and my friend were watching it. And the first reaction we had was “that was a cool move, clever!” But after we thought about it for like… a minute. We got really upset about how little sense it made because that was Jon’s kill. And it was taken from him for no reason just so he could have fire breathed at him.
They did Jon so dirty by making him seem like the most important character just to make him into a puppet that can only say "my queen". He was my favorite character and though I know he always wanted to live in the true north, the entire final season made it clear that him coming back from the dead was just a coincidence and had no greater plot value.
I'll always say that Viserys had the BEST death of the show; a greedy guy killed by the one thing he desired most - the crown and gold. Plus the fact that the dothraki killed him in their sacred temple and found a way to do it so no blood would be spilt... genius.
That even was based on history btw. "The fate Drogo submits Viserys Targaryen to in the first season (he gives him a ‘golden crown’ by pouring molten gold over his head) is incredibly similar to Khan’s treatment of Inalchuq, who met his death by molten silver being poured into his ears and eyes. " Khan as in Genghis Khan of Mongolia
@@tauriqabdullah6130 while being all poetic and such, this must be one of the most gruesome deaths there is. Assuming it was (close to) pure silver, its melting point is ca. 960 C°. The tissue between brain and ears/brain and eyes will have slowed the silver down a little bit, plus they don't connect directly to the essential areas of the brain. So, assuming the victim did not immediately fall into a shock he must have felt the molten silver liquifying his brain for at least some seconds. Truly horrifying
D&D script says that Drogon burning the throne was just co-incidence and that dragons have no intelligence. In that way D&D are like dragons, they managed to get couple of seasons of good material without brains, as a co-incidence, until they burned down the whole franchise.
@@juzujuzu4555 and even the few good seasons they had didn't really come from "them" as seasons 1-6 had the actual source material(the books) behind them. Its when they ran out of source material that everything turned became a mess
One of the biggest issues I had with the battle of Winterfell other than the darkness was that the cavalry charge of like 10,000 horses literally did nothing.. That many horses would smash through a formation of foot soldiers like a sledgehammer especially skeletons and decrepit zombies.
Nah honestly cavalry wouldn't do well in a battle against an enemy who doesn't have morale no matter how you use them. What are you going to do on a horse that you can't do on foot? Only thing is move faster, charge, and run down enemies in a route, but that's irrelevant because they're defending a castle. Even if they did a flank, what's that going to do against a much bigger block of infantry that won't break under any circumstance other than the death of their king? The charge was just dumb, there's no two ways about it. Especially since they didn't use the dragons at all, just sat by and watched while they have air power, easily the most OP weapon on the battlefield
@@jdstark24 what does morale have to do with cavalry? If there was no advantage to it, why do u think they exist? (Tormund even comments that he learned his lesson when Stannis’ cavalry cut thru his formations like a hot knife thru butter)
@@SkillyMackabee a huge part of the reason cavalry is such an influence on the battlefield is its ability to break enemy morale and cause routes, and to influence the flow of combat. There's no advantage to having cavalry in a defensive battle against an enemy that has no morale. Historically, a majority of soldiers were killed in the rout after they broke formation and ran away, not during the actual battle. Cavalry not only causes fear in the enemy but when they do break you can now run them all down with ease. The idea that cavalry is good for charges is pretty overstated. It's extremely situational and the Battle Of Winterfell is not one of those situations
So true. That was one of my absolute favorite shows; another great series about surviving adversity... pissed away in a depressingly similar manner to GoT.
A year later, nobody talks about GoT. Unlike Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and so many cultural landmarks before it; GoT has disappeared from public thought with neither a bang nor a whisper, but a dispassionate moan
I much prefer the original version of the script, in which Jorah actually survives and becomes a more major character in the end game - eventually turning on Dany and in doing so completing his arch - ending up in his father's place as commander of the night's watch.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 That ending would have been stupid because Jorah would have never turned on Dany. Hell when they were in Meereen, Jorah was trying to prepare Dany to do what she did in the last season while Dany was the one telling him she would not harm innocents. So no. That wouldn't have been a good development, it would have gone against canon like everything else in the last season did, and would have just show the audience more of how much those two idiots didn't care about the show and the characters in the first place.
The character assassination, in this season is the most heart breaking. More than the unfinished plot threads, or the continuity, it’s the characters who made this show and they destroy years of character development
I would be disapointed too,if I was him. The guy propably read up on Euron and thought:''Damn,that's a pretty cool and complex villainous character.It's gonna be so fun playing him on screen.'' And then the ended up telling ''finger in the bum''-jokes and looking like an idiot.
I actually thought he did a pretty good job considering what he got to work with. Shame that they decided to go down the maniacal route, rather than the total religious psychopath of the books.
@@Blaklyon0 The show ended too soon. No idea what was up with the knight king because yea he just died, The battle plans where just dumb. I don't know it just felt off. The numbers in the army's never made any sense, They jumped from one scene to the next in no time, They had John say he has never rode a dragon before umm how did he get south of the wall? I could go on but its just a meh I no longer care. They talked about spin offs but the writing in the last season killed it.
The creators of the show never realized that the show's popularity had nothing to do with their talent, they were only converting an old book saga into a tv show. The second the books ended and they had to come up with their own shit, the show crumbled.
wauw, so you're basicly saying: the books were great, awesome writing, why isn't everyone who did not make writing that particular story their lifes-work while tied to irl limitations like budget, time and the fact they are not allowed to make significant character plots about characters from a story, to which they don't have the rights to make these changes, an equally good writer as George?
@@keesvanhameren9025 It's wierd u don't know that but by the time the books ended, the show was a global phenomenon and "budget limitations" and other petty reasons weren't an issue anymore like in the first couple seasons. Not only you don't know that but you seem to be defending the shitty ending of the show ? Ur wierd
i stopped watching after Season Six. from from what i saw of Season 7 and 8.. I wanted to tear the rest of my hair out and Burn Dumber and Dumber with Wildfire. They threw away Jamie's redemption arc, turn Jon Snow into a slobbering moron, and dropped Tyrion's IQ off a cliff
Season 6 was mostly off the books, and is largely a decent season, 7 and 8 were just rushed steaming piles of shit, I think they had the ability write much better but they just wanted to end the show so they could get on with Star wars, and that's just worse really.
It's amazing how the final season made this entire show, which was previously must-watch and talked about quite a bit among most people I know, completely irrelevant and even forgotten. Nobody ever even mentions it anymore, to the point that it's almost like it never even existed. That's impressive for the show runners to mess things up that badly.
@@Nihilakh4life ... why Gendry? I could see Arya/Jamie killing Cersei in the red tower (then getting backstabbed by the mother of the sand snakes, as Arya takes off the Jaime mask after getting stabbed)... but why Gendry?
HBO gave them an unlimited budget and would given them as many seasons as they wanted. D and D did all of this to start on a new project. Which they got fired from bc of how shit they were. I will ALWAYS for the rest of my life, never watch anything D and D is a part of.
Yeah I have no idea why they didn't stick closer to the books and had like 12 seasons. George might have caught up better with the pressure off. As it seems he gave up as the show passed him
It's what HBO shows do. Think about it. Oz ended with an anthrax scare that evacuated the prison. That was it. All those seasons of storytelling to end it with a white powdery substance found in an envelope. The Sopranos wasn't any better either. That whole last season was great and then they have the diner scene where there are all these people that could cause the show to end in pretty much any possible way. Then, Tony looks up and.... that's it. Deadwood actually had a great ending. They just left us hanging for 14 years before we got it. Anyone who has watched HBO originals before could have seen this coming. It really didn't surprise me that they dropped the ball at the end
You forgot the worst part, when Bran is asked if he will rule over the seven kingdoms. "Why do you think I came all this way?" WHAT. So you survived getting pushed out of a tower, escaped your murderous brother, went beyond the wall, and became the Three-Eyed Raven.... SO YOU COULD BECOME THE KING?? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?????
@@NekoMiku1234 Yes, becoming an immortal monk should disqualify you from succession, nevermind how these (medieval-esque) feudal lords would respond to their new king being physically incapable. Maybe if he was the son of a loved king, they'd accept that in a normal stable medieval society, but in Game of Thrones after everyone who actually had a claim to the throne died? It would be a free for all.
Joshua Anderson bran is the son of Ned Stark but he’s still not the true heir if anything they all should be supporting John. At least he deserves it he’s fought hard for what was right. IMO he is the only one that deserves it. Real talk. What were the writers thinking when they made one of the blandest characters that actually has one of the least amounts of screen time in the whole fucking show. He’s not a favorite at all people like some the side characters better ffs. Honestly one of the worst endings to a show in a while.
@@bigdaddy7956 Just to add on to that. Without the tree, Bran will age and die like any normal man despite his powers of vision. When he dies, they'll be no heir so who will rule the 6 Kingdoms then? If not Jon, then the best person to actually rule would be Tyrion. He had an actual sympathy for the people. Plus, though never consummated, Tyrion was legally married to Sansa. Imagine him showing up, just as a joke, and reminding her of this little irony.
The best part for me with the first four seasons was the horror done better than horror movies. The fear that you feel while watching because you don't know if your favourite character will be alive the next episode. It was so gripping that you didn't want to skip a single second of dialogue.
I think I was more upset about him than anyone else, his arc was like 90% complete 😂 Him and Bre were two sides of the same coin, a beautiful side plot… The selfish man who pitied himself and scoffed at honor, due to his treatment by others. The selfless women who refused to pity herself and clung to her honor, despite her treatment by others.
Eh, I don't think it was that crazy that everybody makes it out to be. It was tragic, but makes sense. As much as he actually did love Brienne, and could imagine a life with her, deep down Cersie wasn't just the first and only love of his life aside from her, but was his twin sister. He would always love her no matter what, there was no way he could let her die on her own no matter how much she deserved it. He couldn't live with himself that way if he let that happen. He knew tragically that although he had this happy new option and possiblity of this whole new life with Brianne, ultimately he knew his fate had to be dying with his sister. They came in to the world together and they had to go out together. It actually fits wayyyy more with the whole tone of the story. It's not a everybody lives happily ever after fairy tale deal, but the total opposite.
@@The.Nasty. am i missing something or how was he ever selfish? he pushed a little boy out of a window for his love for cersei, he killed a king and lived w disgrace cause he didn't want to kill his father and sacrifice hundreds of innocent lives, and he risked his life in multiple occasions for bri
@@esqui777 you’re missing something… Doing things for the people you care about doesn’t mean you can’t be a selfish person. He put his ego and his relationship with Cersei above everything else, even Bri. I like Jamie a lot, but he is a bit of a shitter. One of the many simple terms to describe that kind of behavior is called being selfish.
what's hilarious is that in the books once he becomes lord commander Jon lies and keeps a lot of big secrets. So the way his show!self just stubbornly tells the truth no matter the consequences is another example of d&d stripping away complexity and character development
Even more hilarious: he did it in the show too. He pretended to be a wildling during a whole season, lied to them all the time, including the girl he loved. Seems that D&D kinda forgot that.
My biggest issue with Sansa saying "I wish there was another way" is that the unsullied leave RIGHT AFTER!! Jon literally could've just camped outside for a couple days then come back.
Yeah but Jon wouldn't have gone along with that, it would be dishonorable...and Greyworm is honorbound to kill him for killing his queen, it's ridiculous that he already hasn't at least tried, a betrayal of his character....god, there were so many better endings than the one chosen- it's like a whole betrayal of Dany even more, from every side, a real 'bros before hoes' vibe...and since both their hoes were already dead then why bother- ARRGHH I HATE THAT!!...lol sigh, GoT has given me major trust issues, such a disappointment
Like I think sansa is really one of the most horrible people as of now she learned alot from little finger like you say like sansa saying I wish there was another way, she didn't want john to die but she also didn't want him able to come back to winterfell because like you see she seperated from the kingdom and became the queen of the north ... If John would have been allowed to go back to winterfell he would have stayed king of the north she wanted the power so I've never seen anyone else talk about sansa and how manipulative of a bitch she truly is
There were a lot of problematic endings to tv shows : gossip girl, pretty little liars, how I met your mother ... And others that I definitely forgot. But no last season was as badly done and as deeply despised as Game of thrones. None.
LOST was one of them. That show got sloppy way before the ending though… like the writers got to a point where they were like “fuck, how do we make all this crazy shit make sense?”
@@The.Nasty. lol didn't watch lost when it started, and was very underwhelmed by the critics when I wanted to watch it. So I didn't ! But if we talk non sense then : Pretty little liars was pretty bad. The 100 just went off the rail. Supernatural was a reboot of itself every season, and a parody at a certain point. So yeah ... Pretty much every cool franchise/idea turns out bad at a certain point. Except braking bad. Braking bad was good xD
@@TheSpartan88888 The fact that the show makes Dany a mass murdering psychopath proves absolutely nothing. The show has completely misrepresented every single character in the series - why should we assume it's representing Dany in a fair way now when it never has before? Just because some plot points are going to be similar doesn't mean the characterization will be. Every single character in the show has been twisted into some funhouse version of themselves so D&D can validate their own moral judgements about the book characters. Take Tyrion for example: In the books, Tyrion pledges to kill Jaime, Cersei, and Tywin. He murders Shae - it's not self defense. He goes to Essos and rapes a few slaves, hoping that he can make them hate him as much as he hates himself. He convinces fAegon to sail his Golden Company army to Westeros because he wants to see the world burn down. Then he goes to Dany, intent on doing the same thing, and he asks that in return for his service he should be allowed to rape and kill his sister. In the show, he's a funny dwarf. He goes to Dany because gee-whiz he just wants to make the world a better place - isn't that great? He drinks and he knows things! LOL!! I'm sure they got some plot points correct, but the characterization is comically off-mark. Dany's not going to be a villain in the books any more than Tyrion is going to be a hero. George writes grey characters, but D&D have simplified everyone down to cardboard "good guys" and "bad guys" based on which ones they like and dislike. They literally turned what was grey in her show character into a one-dimensional villain who is unredeemable without even exploring how ''mad'' she was.
Hey there don't blame HBO. They were prepared to give D&D all the time and money in ghe world to make the absolute best show that they could, they just didn't want to. The writers are the only ones at fault here
It's amazing how all the Stark kids realize their father was lying to everyone for decades but still decide that being "honorable" like Ned is what he would have wanted. NO, NO. Ned would have said lying sucks but if you have to do it, then do it. He did it to save children, which is more important than the truth. I don't think the writers even remember that this was a lie.
To be fair, Sansa and Arya lied to people the entire series. And Bran - nothing really adds up if he is still good hearted. He used a lot of people along the way to the throne
I've probably only seen about 3 episodes total. I also feel the rage. It's okay- empathy for those who were hurt and hatred for bad writing are universal, and should be considered healthy.
I'm doing the same thing. Wanted to understand precisely why six episodes of a once-beloved series pissed off over 1 million fans. Also finding that these analyses are helping my own writing - they're basically guides on how NOT to finish a story, character arc, etc. and how TO alienate your audience.
i feel like grrms had a plan for daenerys’ mad queen arc, and that it genuinely could have been really good. she has a habit of mass killing, just in a justified way, so slowly seeing that develop into being less and less justified could have been really interesting . dumb and dumber rushed it way too much ):
Yeah. As others have said elsewhere, my impression was that Tyrion, who became very bitter in the books for obvious reasons, and others around Dany would also start to move her towards a more destructive path. It seems the last books - if they ever get written and published - will be much darker in general than the second half of the show was.
I know a lot of people took the most issue with Daenerys turning evil, the Night King dying so unceremoniously or Bran becoming king, but for me the most upsetting thing was Jaime's arc being betrayed. I still feel kind of sad even just thinking about that tbh.
They really straight up betrayed every characters arch. Jaimie spends the whole show changing to be humble and honorable and then they throw that out the window and he goes right back to episode one. Same thing with Daenerys being all about peace and freedom for the people and literally says and argues against “ruling a country of ashes” and then they throw that out the window and in two episodes she flips to being a tyrant after 7 seasons of he being the opposite
@@nateburrill9685 I mean to be fair she lost her husband her baby died trying to save him then she had to see him die twice she lost two dragons and her friend masunday and was worried about Jons claim to the throne getting out and coming into conflict, Varis betrayed her, Tyrion betrayed her for Jamie and then kings landing didn’t submit until the very end after she had already started burning the city so I mean i can see how she went a little nuts at the end.
They honestly really sucked at building up the plots and character arcs. Either they get messed up or some of them make no fucking sense -_- in the end.
@@being2real943 People don't instantly turn evil though. If they wanted to make her eventually go mad then those events should build up to her massacring the civilians. They didn't, she instantly did a complete 180. Elvis explained why it's so dumb in the video
This happened over a year ago but I still feel that the battle with the Night King should’ve pushed further and ended up in King’s Landing before he was actually killed
It should have been a long campaign over at least 2 seasons imo. The first stand failing, then the remnants scrambling south to garner more support and eventually having lost so much finding a way to strike back. We know nothing of the White Walkers in the show, but they deserved to have their story told. Guess D&D just knew they couldn't do that because they lack imagination.
@@Rockstroem They could have EASILY done (if willing) to create a full-out war for at least two seasons. Just loss after loss after loss and, like you said, somehow they find a way even after so much death, for Jon to fight the Night King and defeat him forever or maybe like sacrifice himself and BECOME the Night King which then goes into a deep, dormant sleep for millennia. I guess that is too much conjecture. But you know what I fucking mean. lol Like anything other than what we got could have been better if the writers didn't forget their roots or actually had the passion to finish our characters' storylines.
I'm so happy I never watched the last season. I think I actually gave up at season 5. It's just 8 years of people constantly saying "Winter is coming" and then it turns out all you need to do to destroy the zombie army is shank the night king. The other problem I had with the zombie army was the length of time it took them to get to the wall. Did they stop to have picnics? Day trips to Alton Towers? Did they have map reading problems? because all they needed to do was walk south. They can also run, so what the hell took them so long?? My theory is that someone sold the night king some magic beans and he spent 8 seasons trying to get them to grow in the frozen north. What actually was the night king's endgame anyway? Did he just want to rule a kingdom of zombie slaves? What would be the point?
I'm surprised George even allowed those fight scenes, he makes it such an important part of his books that his characters don't have plot armor. He talks ALL THE TIME about how frustrating it is when no main characters die in war and then the show just...allowed nobody to die in the war...
One of the biggest memes of the show's early seasons was that people died constantly, nobody was too important to be killed, and anyone could die at any time. Events like the Red Wedding practically changed how prestige television and pop culture in general approached violence and death in storytelling. Only for the last season to go full 1950s comic book style with unkillable protagonists and villains with no motivation or character beyond because evil.
That's what happens when you surrender your IP's rights (don't know what the arrangement between GRRM and HBO was), it gets twisted and subverted and trashed. Kids, if your book gets an adaptation offer, make sure you keep full creative control.
@@zarabee2880 I still like to think they have real game of thrones season 8 hidden somewhere and they will release it after some time....... hope is a dangerous thing
@@top2737 Basically, "We are the nuts and this was the bestest season of GoT ever". The passed off all the f-ups (Starbucks coffe cups) as either the cast members f-ing up (they tried to blame that on Deneares's actress), or carppy nonsensical plot lines as, "oh that character forgot x, y, z happened" i.e the writers. They got sacked from Star Wars so they did get their comeuppance but still what a shit sandwich, covered in piss for the fans
My favourite part is "who has a better story than Bran?" Uhh, just about everyone else present? I stopped watching the shows years ago so this was just pure joyful comedy to me.
I love how game of thrones went from one of the biggest shows of all time to "what a mess" in just one season. It's how you can tell what a clusterfuck the show became.
GOT was just like a magic trick after season 4. Your eyes were trickered to watch in certain direction, your brains believed that something amazing happened, until season 8 finally revealed that you were been fooled the whole time. Constantly building mysteries is so much easier to have them mean anything in cohesive way. GOT build mysteries in every season until the last season just forgot everything about the Lord of light, Faceless men, backstory and meaning of the nightking, white walkers and the use of their symbology. I would challenge anyone to come up with worse story for season 8, or even season 7 for that matter. What we have is something that even smart 7 years of would write better story. It's so bad that I have to assume it's like that on purpose. Nobody could write that horrible ending on such a rich universe. Maybe they wanted to get the audience of the biggest show on TV completely traumatized for some ritualistic purposes.
@@juzujuzu4555 yeah, I realized at season 6 the show was never gonna come back. The battle of the bastards didn't seem realistic at all. And they had dropped most of the plotlines at that point. I knew it was no way they could come back
It was actually 4 seasons. They'd been dropping plotlines and simplifying the universe since season 5. Non-coincidentally the same time GRRM left the show. Season 8 was the culmination of 4 seasons of bad writing. After season 6 I don't see how they could have had a good finale
@@micahmills5769 GRRM left already on season 4. And D&D thought they could do no wrong after Season 3. You can see that season 4 already is worse than season 3 in many ways, writing up to the start of season 4 was great, logical etc. but then it started to go to shite. Many S4 symptoms become obvious later on, but can be seen already on S4.
Just a quick note about the crypts; all the dead are in stone coffins and in a previous episode it was shown that a wooden crate was enough to hold a wight , so it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that if such wight can't break out of a wooden box, it also cannot break out of a stone coffin.
The irony in how bad D&D butchered the final season of GoT to get on the Star Wars project, only to be fired from the Star Wars project shortly after starting it ROFL. How trash can you get at writing.
@@EarthenGames dang I had no idea! Haha power and nepotism will get you every time. But, Star Wars is a dumpster fire too anyhow, let em have a crack at it.
@@Levi-rc8kh only episodes 4 through 6 were great, everything else was disappointing, trash or an absolute pathetic attempt at push a political agenda(WHICH YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IN A ORIGINAL SERIES THAT NEVER HAD IT TO BEGIN WITH, I MEAN HAVE YOU SEEN GHOSTBUSTER 2016!?) even my mother hated the new movies and she loved star wars.
@@xxprototypexx5056 sometimes things are just bad, not because they are woke, or because they aren't. Also, sorry, are you insinuating that a series about imperialism, with one of the characters like Darth Vader and the siths being shown to be literal fascists is somehow.... not political????? Bruh star wars was political from the start, and it was bad, not because it was political, but because sometimes... writing is bad! Plot is bad! You people lack literally all nuance and analysis skills it hurts. To you it's literally woke = bad, not woke = good. Go read a book or something, it's painful to listen to your brainrot.
@@josephconway7945 I believe the show starts with Robert's company arriving at Winterfell. I also believe the show mentioned that his company's journey took a month or 2?
People can die from heat too. Thinking that the heat from dragon’s flames could cause some severe damage. So, like, hiding behind some rocks one foot away from a nightmare blue flame is most likely gonna do something.
The first seasons of Got I felt like I was watching a medieval show. The last seasons felt like I was watching a modern show that tried to appear as medieval
@@randompanda3415 what do you mean by explored? the relationships between the persons and the way the politics was built felt closer to a medieval background. Kings, loyalty, families, intrigue these were all very important in medieval times or were they not? It probably didn't tell us somth that we didn't know about meideval human relationships but i don't think that was the purpose.
@@danpetru Well yes and no. It's what we as laymen "think" is medieval, but eventually even that stopped and we were left with a glorified soap opera by the end.
My question is, why didnt HBO just hire new writers/directors to continue the series? I feel there would have been SO many writers who would happily continue the show. What they did was terrible to the fans, and almost just as worse to all those actors who have been on the show for almost 10 years. So disappointing. What a complete waste of one of the greatest T.V shows in history...
I feel the same way. But one of GRRM's conditions was that he got to pick the showrunners, and shockingly, D&D were the ones that passed the test and were the ones he wanted. Because in an interview they figured out Jon's parentage. I know. So even though they supposedly had a falling out with each other, I doubt George would consent to it, which is not the first mistake he made with this series. And honestly, I don't think it ever crossed HBO's minds either, I think a lot of people involved were just way overconfident and thought because this was game of thrones fans would just like it and accept it. Spoiler alert: no. But I think its worth noting too, D&D didn't get out of this Scott free. By the looks of it, Warner Brothers is trying to really distance themselves and the deal they made with Disney for Star Wars is being drastically altered so haha.
@Kyler Markle I'd rather start from the beginning of Season 5, picking up right where S4 left off, keeping in line with the books instead of cutting major characters. Patchface, Lady Stoneheart, etc.
To be fair, hbo could've gotten away with nominating A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which was written by Bryan Cogman. Instead, they go for The Iron Throne, written and directed by D&D. I don't know WHY hbo continues to back them so hard. It's like they want to be a laughing stock.
@@Monica_Leigh Exactly! They choose the episode with nearly 58 minutes without dialogue only showing off the actors emotions. Watch the videos of The Dragon Demands. They are pretty damn long while pretty damn enlightening.
Not gonna lie, I’d have had a much better time watching the big goofy redhead wildling bag Brienne because he loves how she looks when other people rag on it than I did watching Jamie take his character arc, turn it towards her for no reason, and then throw it all away for nothing two episodes later. Edit: also, I could’ve been FINE with Sansa telling everyone about Jon’s lineage if they’d dealt with the repercussions, but if you aren’t gonna have time to do that find out some other way to do it. Edit Two: the “Westerosi people don’t like me” BS made me madder than anything else because, like, did the people in Essos love her from the minute she stepped on the soil? Because I sure must’ve missed that! If I recall, every step of the way from the second her Khal died each new group of people hated her and were brought on board by her shows of compassion and Unburnt-ness!
"on TV" I honestly feel comfortable saying it is one of the worst endings to anything in entertainment ever. I'm a huge gamer, love movies, and love TV and I've never seen anything as bad as this. Even now. Star Wars and now, Last of Us 2, can't hold a candle to the absolute dumpster-fire that is Season 8 of Game of Thrones. It literally killed the name. Talks about movies? Spin-Off series? D&D doing Star Wars? Video Games series? Gone in an instant.
@@seancoetzee5399 Really? There's a very large amount of hate towards it that I've seen. It's genuinely a fantastic game in almost every aspect, but it's story is flawed. If you have the time, NakeyJakey did a really great video about it and it basically sums up my thoughts on the matter. I'll link it, if you'd like to discuss the matter afterward, I'd be more than willing! Have a good one. /watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM
@@uyuman1 Rhaegar was killed at the Battle of the Trident. Then the Sack of King's Landing happened and the Lannisters killed Princess Elia and her children Rhaenys and baby Aegon. Ned called is murder, he and Robert argued about it, and Ned left to find his sister. He found Lyanna at the Tower of Joy in Dorn dying from giving birth to Jon/Aegon. News had already reached Lyanna and her protectors of the royal family's deaths. (GoT pg112)
@@breezy3392 It still would be wierd for Lyanna to name him Aegon, because it would mean that his father wanted to call him Aegon even with a son already named Aegon. Unless Rhaegar wanted to call him something else but Lyanna decided to call him Aegon for Jon's birth name to make sense.
21:56 Dany legitimising Gendry is very sweet, but it also makes absolutely no sense. She goes from loving Jon Snow to resenting him when she discovered he has a stronger claim to the throne than her, but she then creates an even stronger claimant to the throne? Remember that Robert Baratheon claims the throne by right of conquest, so his legitimate son would have a much stronger claim than a deposed Tagaryen would have.
@@BradLad56a show inspired by war of the roses would appreciate that it doesn’t matter what the individual wants… their existence provides opportunity for opponents to rally around and act through them. That’s far too nuanced for this stage of the show tho lol
@JCB not only that they had so much time to put everybody to work especially all the soldiers to build more fortifications and such to slow the dead. Also that they had three lines of poorly made defenses and tactics. The cavalry charge, the inf and artillery dumb shit deployment with no stop to the undead especially when the undead can just swarm them like the zombies from World War z
I loved the show. I loved the characters and I still love them. I loved the actors, the cinematography, the fucking dragons, Westeros. I was invested in this world. But God I will never get tired of hearing people shit on season eight. I'm just gonna... read the books now.. I need closure.
@@d_lightmatter7176 No, with the right timing and doing nice developements of the characters, you could make a similar ending but making much more sense.
Dude, the show hasn't had a great season since season 4. We saw the problems creep in after they quit following the books with the Dorne storyline in season 5. Then in season 6, it was obvious that the showrunners have no idea what they are doing without George's help. Season 7 just continued to get worse and with the worst of the worst with season 8. Everyone who isn't a mark, should've saw this coming with how bad season 6 and 7 were at points, but they would always end it on a good episode like both of those seasons to give everyone hope. I will only watch the first four seasons in the future, but at least its close to being it's own contained story with the war of the five kings because those seasons follow the first three books and George was originally only going to write three.
The Dothraki were supposed to be horse archers as well, which the show runners totally forgot. I guess being able to out run the undead while firing at them made too much sense.
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If you haven't yet I would check out the old anime Legend of the Galactic Heroes as it is the space opera equivalent to GoT except it actually is able to perfectly wrap up its story and is focused very much on the world shaping the events of the characters like you wanted with this.
Wow, all this stuff is a bigger shitshow than the homestuck epilogues
*_yes_*
What's crazy too is that they have the nerve to make a sequel. Why couldn't they just spend more time with season 8 to be able to address all the cool aspects of the story-line? I'm still mad about the white walker's. I wanted John to become the new Night King after he fell in love with Daenerys. I wanted him to destroy everything in King's Landing, I mean he has a reason to want to do that (after losing his humanity which keeps him from doing so). Plus, Daenerys would have to have tragically killed him which would have made sense for the Azor Ahai lore I read not too long ago. This was really a basic show. It's unbelievable that they put so much effort and couldn't make the ending worth-wild. I wasted a few years of my life. It's clearly obvious, whoever made this show was inspired by D & D, Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars and couldn't pull their own weight. Y'all better give the writer all your blessings. He is the only person who can save this story-line, now.
Daenerys IS ruthless, but every king is ruthless! Why is this a bad thing? When as a king you're literally playing God with people's lives! That is the duty of a ruler, that is what a ruler is! They tried to pull a "Democratic-system," but this was just stupid! Through all the events I was expecting to happen, to make the ending more realistic (if that was what they were trying to go for), Daenerys would have had to become a little more ruthless or "mad" due to the fact that she is desperate to protect her people after the war with the white walker's (who didn't even seem like much of a threat in the real ending btw). This makes for an excellent story-line to show that history repeats itself and there is always more to the story. After experiencing betrayal and traumatic massacres of people she kind of cared for, THIS WOULD HAVE CHANGED HER. The Daenerys we knew and loved would have had a GOOD, bittersweet ending. Bran should never have been king, he should have became her right hand because he is the link between the past, present and the future. This is the best person to be the role as an adviser, not a king. Bran was depicted as a wise man/boy, never ruthless. He can't lead wars! He is in a freakin' wheel chair. If all you need to be is a tactician to be king, why couldn't Tyrion be king?
I keep torturing myself with these GOT last season failure analysis videos
Octavio M. V. Oneto Same.
Me too! I've been reading these books since 2002. I'm insanely angry they got so lazy with the writing. Seriously, I feel insane when I'm yelling at my TV.
Sameee. Just refueling my distaste for the shit-show of Season 8. Ughh.
@@millaray9912 Watch the last kingdom. That might help you out a little
These failure analyses are the only good thing that came from the season 8... They are so entertaining
HBO: "Have infinite money."
D&D: "There was no budget for Ghost to get a pat."
HBO`s view was why should we put any more money into the ending when we can save money and cut the ep`s needed that was needed to show why people did what they did out of no where. I hate when they do this as at this point they do not care about the show as there is nothing more to be made. But they did leave it open for season 9 as the dragon brings her back to life based on where he flys.
@@Thrakus the worst part is that HBO said D&D can have more seasons and more money if they want but D&D said they don't need it
@@Thrakus That was nothing to do with HBO though, HBO did not try to save money with a shorter season. It was entirely down to the showrunners.
@@morbus5378 exactly.
@@devilstec666 wat
Awkward moment when a dragon can destroy a magic infused ice wall that's stood for thousands of years but Jon is safe hiding behind a rock
Well, yeah, the wall is made of ice; the rock is made of the motherfucking earth, so its stronger.
@@somejew9163 magic infused ice
@@ErickGTRZ Some weak ass magic, if a rock can block dragon fire.
@@somejew9163 Pretty sure the "rock" was just a piece of Winterfell's wall, which the dragon completely destroyed only minutes earlier. Unfortunately there is just no plausible explanation other than the producers being morons.
@@TheRPGentleman I'm 10 and even I can tell Some Jew isn't being serious.
It's been almost 3 years since the show ended and my God, the finale still pisses me off till these days. The finale felt like when you have 20 minutes left in writing exam and your exam paper is still empty because you didn't study last night.
Haha yeap, i have Easter.binge watched GOT analysis like this. Hating on DB never grows old.
yeah that’s most likely what he did. did you watch the series that TDD did on Benioff?
show died when writers fooled the audience to believe that jon isnt a bastard like bro raegal was married to elia martell with 2 children .he fooled lyanna with a secret marriage cuz it wasnt real
Actually I'm thinking the same thing that last two seasons sucked so bad it's a taste that want go away.
"Well the bells angered Danny because it reminded her of the time she had to do the walk of shame naked in the city.....we later remembered that it was actually Cersei and not Danny"
Sketchorama yeah then kills everyone for no reason that makes sense
Hilarious!!!
While D&D kinda forgot about the bells of shame, they certainly hadn't forgotten about *them*
Sketchorama thank u. They totally swapped Dany and Cersei’s characters.
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 have you seen zurik 23m, daenerys targaryen - the last dragon
Jaime’s character arc: *exists*
D&D: lol bye
But but, don't you see! It was all foreshadowed! Jaime pushing Bran out the window in S1E1 was a vital clue to predict D&D throwing all of his character growth out the window in S8. /s
Sad thing is, I could probably convince someone that is exactly what D&D were aiming for.
@@donot5643 Mate,don't feed the troll
@@bifflarson7289 What a cool guy you are.
@@donot5643 feed the troll
Biff Larson lol ur such a kool kat
Man, the videos dissecting season 8 are better than actual season 8, and more enjoyable
For real. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of different youtubers breaking down the awfulness of this season.
Exacly! I had 10x more fun watching those than the actual season.
Yes i agree i love watching UA-camrs destroy and point out how bad Season 8 is
I agree
The honest truth 👏🏾
but you gotta admit, it's impressive how one season ruined the whole show. fans couldn't shut up about it but after the last season it was like the show never existed. usually shows like this leave behind an impact and some kind of legacy, people talk about it years later for nostalgia’s sake but not with got. it's only talked about because of it's horrible last season.
Actually this isn’t unusual, even for shows that ended well. Eventually hype bursts and people move on, it’s just natural. The shows that still get talked about are considered classics that stand alone. And if fans don’t want GOT to be forgotten, then maybe try concentrating on what you liked about it, not constantly bashing what you didn’t.
It's not really only the last season. Season 7 was also dumb as hell (actually the whole thing started collapsing slowly back in Season 5), but people still had hope, because hope dies last. But when it became clear that this is the end, that last bridge was burned.
It’s not one season, ever since season 6 the show went downhill
@@TheaterPup the last seasons deserve to be bashed though. It's an honest reflection of the writers fucking up something amazing. Unfortunate but that is the legacy of the show now. Trying to have selective memory about it doesn't make it true. I doubt it will be forgotten but it won't be remembered as something that was executed well, but for the biggest missed potential in recent tv history. happy days is considered a classic too but people also always remember jumping the shark to the point that it is a common enough idiom used by people who don't even know the origin of the phrase.
@@rs180216 It’s an honest reflection of the Internet leaning negative by default. Agree to disagree.
George RR Martin: "A fully grown dragon is practically indestructible"
D&D: "Hold Euron's Beer"
Only he wasn't fully grown. Balerion was considerably bigger than largest of Denerys dragon and that is Drogon. What bothers me is that flame breath became laser dragon breath of doom that literally cuts stone.
@Jake Hoff why would you ever want to eliminate bed & breakfast?
@@Nood4159 Pretty sure they considered them fully grown, but oh well
@Jake Hoff in the show they were confirmed by multiple ppl they were fully grown. and this is the show we are talking about not books.
Dark O-man balerion lived to age 200 and vhagar lived to 180. drogon, viserion, and rhaegal were only like 8! dragons never stop growing, therefore danys dragons are still practically baby’s
Season 8 was so unimaginably bad that, Game of Thrones, a show so culturally important to the world, has since become completely irrelevant. Its only existence is to remind everyone how not to conclude a story.
That's the worst part. I can't re-watch GoT.
What's the point.
Truly a phenomenon.
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 same, even though the seasons previous to the last one are godly, I don't feel like re-watching at all :/ damn season 8 ruined everything.
Bro, Game of Thrones disappeared completely. People were stuck at home, doing nothing, and NO ONE watched this show again (or started watching it). That's how bad it was.
Sad but true :(
Season 1-6: Watch each episode 10 times and 1 UA-cam video discussing the episode.
Season 7-8: Watch each episode 1 time and 10 UA-cam videos about how terrible the episode was.
preach
It's not much to talk about when everyone knows it's good.
Season 7 and 8.sucked ass. Completely in my opinion seasons 1-5 were the best of.game.of thrones
@@joeltaveras1926 Agreed I loved 1 thru 5 besides the Dorne arc they was tripping with sand snakes. 7 &8 didn't have much character development and plot holes to say the least.
Pretty accurate summary
I don’t have an issue with Danny going insane-that’s a perfectly fine, tragic end to her character arc. Not every character needs a happy ending, especially not in this show. BUT IF THAT’S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THEY NEEDED TO START SETTING IT UP IN LIKE SEASON 5 OR 6. Up until season 8 we had no true indication that Danny would perpetrate violence like this against civilians.
They expected us to believe that crucifying a bunch of slave masters was decent enough foreshadowing. Pretty sure The Punisher would brutally torture slave masters, but he would never in a millions years murder an entire city of innocent people or even one single innocent person. Being insanely cruel to cruel people doesn't automatically make us think "oh they will do this to innocents eventually."
@@crupt1023 she spent so much time literally saying “I don’t want to be queen of the ashes” and “I want to break the wheel” and “I will leave this world better than I found it” etc.
D&D really thought they could just erase all of that character motivation and give us some flimsy reasoning like “bUt ReMeMbEr sHe KiLlEd ALL ThE SlAvErs GUUUYYSS!!” and that we would just accept that.
She was literally a protagonist until that 5th episode. I remember the start of it with her looking like an absolute fiend actually made me laugh, like "Well she's clearly now crazy Targarean"
yeah just like eren from aot becoming villain felt earned and it didn't just happen in one minute
@@anilkumarsinha5562 Darn you for the spoilers lol.
"Arya travels west of Westeros to find the Resteros"
Dead.
It’s weird. Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east, and the show went south.
Francis Karanja yep . Why Starks don’t want stay together after 8 years separated ? That’s strange 🧐
Atheist Girl I know right. They all leave each other, half of them die, they remaining come back again, and than they leave again
Jack Yes . I also tought Wolf Pack stays together . Bran on in the iron throne doesn’t make any sense to me. If I really want to know if there is a country in the west of Westeros , I will ask my three eyed raven brother .
"Bran the Broken"
"Just King Bran is fine."
"Bran wheelie, wheelie, legs no feely."
S8 really was spectacularly awful.
Lmfao
Bran Bran, Broken Man, nurses help him use the can.
🤣🤣🤣
Bran the Flake. Bran the Bland.
Bran the builder of access ramp’s.
I always loved how the skeletons were able to punch through inches of stone, when just a few episodes before one was held in for hundreds of miles in a wooden box
Hordor held quite a few
I loved it when they smothered a burning ditch with their flammable bodies.
Because he is GREAT!!
The inner hollywood spirit broke through in the last season. Plot armor was added again and things happen just because they're cool.
no no the tied that one up!! hahaha
Watching Jon Snow - arguably the favorite character of the whole serices - being turned into an unimportant idiot was the saddest part of all. They should have left him dead after season 5.
Yeah, him and Jamie’s endings really stung.
i mean jon was never a smart person but he was still a rational one .
@@herloss448 he wasn't tywin levels of smart but he was able to hold his own pre-season 6
Yeah Jon in the early seasons was portrayed as a principled man but he was never a dimwit. In fact he was smart and competent in a lot of situations. In Season 8 he went full autistic. His dialogue made me want to puke.
@@locke8412At least he knows how to do it
Gotta love how Melisandre just casually reveals she could light whole armies' swords alight the whole time. Sure was nice of her to keep that to herself when Stannis' men were freezing to death...
The Night King, Daenerys and her Dragons have made her magic far more powerful than before.
She can only do what the Lord of light lets her do
Dylan Ackland if the Lord of Light even exist. There’s no concrete proof he does. In the books other characters who are not Priest of Rholhor pull similar magic as her
@Infinity Stones No way, she was about a 100 years old when she let herself finally perish. I doubt she was still "discovering herself" by now.
@Infinity Stones I was just making the point that by the time she perished,she had learned all she could. She wasn't going to discover anything else that she didn't know before. The writers simply made her inconsistent in that some things worked, some things didn't. I guess depending on how they wanted the story to go, really.
Honestly, I'd be much happier if the dragon did give a philosophical speech at the end. Then we would've known that D&D were pranking us.
I was honestly expecting Ashton Kusher to show up at the end of the episode 6
@What ? those two morons wrote the final seasons like this, had no interest in continuing the GoT show but wouldn't give up the show to other writers, so they came up with this joke of a last season that's why
Drogon is probably a million times smarter than the human morons, so sure. Have him explain the mess that was the last season.
Drogon Holmes 😂😂😂
Or the Dragon said as it it died - "its because I didnt eat enough mitaclorians."
They destroyed the entire series by rushing the final season because they were so eager to work on a Star wars project that they ended up getting canned from. The biggest L in television history.
No, the shit started in season 5 and was already at peak in season 7. Season 7 is almost as bad as 8 but all the brainless fanbois did not see a damn about it because "Uh there is a cool dragon burning lannisters uhuh". Some people weren't even surprised with season 8 being terrible. I wasn't.
Iam so glad they got canned From Star wars So glad
@@NB-or8rs i didnt Notice That many mistakes coz we are all just Used to The epic Good wins over evil shit so Then i started rewatching then i Started noticing All of the mistakes I did notice It while watching it first time But i didnt mind that
@@howyadoinmate1868 yeah well people who noticed them in their first watch just suffered alone in a corner
@@NB-or8rs hmm i was really obssesed with this show Like this was the only Show that Got me obssesed with something like This show Made me have goosebumps like real goosebumls for first that i know of Now the villains are D&D like how are they even know as a Professional Writers What qualification do they have idk Much about them btw But still Bro how can 2 proffesional Writer fuck up this much
Oh ye and with Jaime, him pretending to join back with Cersei and killing her for the good of the realm would actually have been very fitting, as it would circle back to him killing the Mad King in order to save the realm, and once again sacrificing his honour for the people as no doubt people would still hate him for killing his sister, even if she was insane. But no of course instead he says he never really cared about the little people, even though he literally gave up his honour to save them previously. My GOD this was so dumb.
plus, the prophecy? 'the golden hand will squeeze the life out of
you.' they put the prophecy in s4 or 5 AND IT NEVER PAID OFF
and it didn't make any sense that the northern forces would arrest him in the first place.
he just helped them defend winterfell
he could have just rode up to the lines and said hello, i'm here to try to talk some sense into my sister
they could have had him try to do that and fail, then he could decide to die with her in the seige
Tyrion's IQ dropped off the cliff in the last two seasons after he sobered up and stopped drinking lmao
Ironically around the time he stopped drinking so much...
Well I hear a lot about how he thought cersei would come help but did you see him acting the scene?? Even Tirion doesn't believe she will show up but he is hoping she will and ignoring his logic because of how hopeless the situation is. Have you ever went all in on a hope you know is unlikely to happen??
Perhaps he was also trying to keep morale up. But watch it again and you can see in his eyes and the way he speaks that he doesn't really believe it. The writing is shit. I'm certainly not going to argue against that but tirion was being an optimist a lot towards the end
@@D_skeptic *MASSIVE HANGOVER*
did it? his advice wasnt so rewarded by the outcome, but it seems there is another spin to that: why cersei does not kill tyrion whenever she has the chance? easy. she loves him and hates him. like a sister loves and hates her brother. also she knows him facing her is a sign of trust and brotherly love. they know each other and their tricks better than anybody else. they might be on opposing sites, but they have a bond nevertheless, always. Plus: tyrion, in his role as "Hand of the queen" and advisor in reality helps cersei all the way. his advises to dany are often the first and logical suggestion but are always well crafted considering the countermoves of cersei and giving his sister the opportunity to outmaneuver dany without tyrion losing his face. its like a cat and mouse game between him, cersei and dany, and in the end you can see he is crushed seeing his brother and sister dead in the ruins after dany breaking the rules and just burning down the city. he tried to save them without switching sides again, and he did a mighty fine job until the very end, he wasted troops and ships at the lannister castle, he wasted troops and ships on sea at kings landing, he always considered how to split forces and give cersei a window to crush a good chunk of danys forces instead of throwing them all at once at kings landing and winning by numbers. tyrion was a genius.
Dana I’m
The ultimate subversion: we became accustomed to main characters being killed off, but nobody would have expected they kill the whole series. Well played, simply genius!
it was so bad that it's as if they are either psychopaths that hated their audience and wanted to make them suffer or they were threatened into tanking the show, "tank the show or you lose your lives", haha..GOT's ending is suspiciously awful
I don't know y I watched this video again man. I just depressed myself. fackkkkkk.
hahahahhaha
@@wheelmanstan "suspiciously awful" LMAO you just described it PERFECTLY HAHAHA xD
@@MrMcCoy987 oh
Tyrion: bran the broken
Bran: please don’t call me that
Tyrion: bran the wheely wheely legs no feely
@@ec_money 1000 more than I have
oh my god i feel so bad for laughing
Last name: Walking
First name: Never
Tyrion: brain the broken
sniff sniff
*What on god’s green earth just fucking raped my eyes*
My biggest disappointment, was that they treated the Dragons, which are the closest thing to a god-like entity in the Realm, like any other character's horse. Raegal deserved better. He deserved to be by Jon's side with Ghost in the end. I almost give them the SMALLEST slack for the Night King to kill a dragon, he's been the villain looming in the dark since season 1, but the jackass Euron we got in the show, on bolt thrower, ON A BOAT, FROM A MILE AWAY? AND IT WAS A KILLSHOT? Maybe MAYBE shooting a wing, I might give them that slack, BUT THE HEART? AND THEN THE NECK? Absolutely ludicrous. Game of Thrones deserved better, the actors, cast, and crew deserved better, GRRM deserved better, and we the viewers deserved better.
But what's worse is that the Night King and Euron somehow eyeballed a kill shot to the heart miles up in the sky, but somehow none of them could hit Drogon, the one carrying all of the important people, right in front of them. Like he hit three or four kill shots on Rhaegal high in the sky but none of his fleet could hit Drogon right in front of them? And the Night King could've killed Jon, Dany and literally everyone if he hit Drogon instead but chose Viserion? That was the shit that pissed me off
A WHOLE ASS YEAR LATER AND IM STILL NOT OVER IT
Me neither. I’m still offended by the sad excuse of an ending.
Who is?
DAMN STRAIGHT!!!
Who tf isn't
I watch such videos every once in a while...gives some sort of personal satisfaction to see the writers being roasted for their unforgivable delivery
almost a year later, it still hurts
I feel like I can stand confronting the hurt a little better now though, that's why I'm also watching this lol
please, you are just a soft little, want everything your way type of person. You deserve to be disappointed.
@@FollowPrincess It's not them being a "want everything your way" person. It's them being disappointed at the fact that one of their favorite shows fucked up its ending so bad. It's not just them that's disappointed jackass, it's a lot of people. So maybe get off your high horse and gtfo.
a year later, it still hurts.
@@dantethewanderer4989 I watched all the seasons of the show as well, I am not dissapointed. I did not expect them to do anything wild that last season, regarding the issues concerning time. Why should I be on my "high horse", when we are all in the same boat? lol, I just don't complain because the ending was not how I wished it was. Obviously more fans then not wished they got the perfect ending, and don't see that they make it out to be worse then it is. Fans will always find a way to make their beliefs feel justified, hence the "got s8 ruined" videos. Trust me, its not perfect, but it doesn't necessarily need to. I think season 8 is definitely way better then you make it, but not necessarily "good", per say. Far from bad tho, regardless. Stop complaining, I have made alot of people second guess themselves, people dont even know why they hate it even. Stay quiet please, stop bitching.
Bronn is a master of coins is the worst thing about season 8 he literally does not know anything about money he even told tyrion he does not understand the concept of lending money
I think that was the point, Bronn will never loose a single coin lol
He also agreed to assassinate Jamie and at the time Hand of the queen, Tyrion with no consequence! I guess D&D forgot!!
Jay Bird there was a consequence! He got the Tyrell ancestral home, lands and title. Which is DUMB. The castle, fine, whatever, but why the hell would he be be the overlord/warden of the east?! That is given to the house most able and loyal to the crown, to manage and deal with funds between other lords in their district. Bronn knows nothing of household accounts, crop growth and what to plant when. Highgarden in a farming kingdom! Why wouldn't he give it to Tarly?! Who WERE banner men of the Tyrells? They were a very old, noble family, and the man left to lead it is a close friend, loyal beyond doubt, learned, good natured, and a maester in training. No... The sell sword is obviously better equipped to lead?!
CJ Jankovics The Tarly family is extinct ………
yuan John no they aren't. Even IF his little brother, who in the books is significantly younger than Sam and likely wouldn't be old enough to go to war and die with his father, the Lady Tarly, and Sam's sister would still hold the house name and honours. Females can become the heads of houses, lady Whent of Harrenhall for instance. That said, Sam is still alive, and he has a 'son' who would be Lord Tarly.
I always found it funny that Cersei stays on that balcony drinking wine for the last two seasons. She just does nothing.
When Jon suddenly called Danaerys "Dany" for no reason, that's when we knew that somebody had fucked up
Bus she is his queen foreva.
Muh kween
Well when you have a partner, you do have a nickname for them.
If I remember correctly, her abusive brother called her that. That's why it's bad.
Hey, "Dany" was only being an American woman because that's what American women do. Can't fault her for flexing a little "pu$$y joosh."
Dragonglass & Valerian Steel: Can kill White Walkers because they are infused with dragon fire
Dragon fire itself: Doesn't do shit against the Night King.
Did anybody notice how valyrian steel is all the sudden used to kill the zombies in season 7? Previously that was reserved for the walkers.
@@yggdrasil3 True. In previous seasons people were killing wights just by giving them a good whack on the head with a heavy object.
@@CFijWPG Wights, thanks, I forgot their name.
Bro that's what I'm saying. It makes NO sense. If it's not the Dragonfire that gives Valryian steel and Dragonglass their anti-White Walker properties... THEN WHAT THE HELL IS IT???
Sinful AMVs you just need to believe
We're a family, the four of us, the last of the Starks
Arya in the ending: Peace out guys I'm sailing west to fight sea monsters
SavageRicktator Meanwhile Bran the broken is ditched by all 3 of them like “Am I a joke to you guys?”
Also Arya: We are family, we have to stick together
Is seen leaving with the hound the next scene.
Lol, Season 7: "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives". Season 8: Well, bye Jon. Bye, Arya, Bye Bran, and Bye Sansa.
Also, never mind that Bran can just tell Arya about what she is looking for West of Westeros.
@@dash4800 So kinda like family in real life lol
@@dash4800
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The fact that Jamie's character arc doesn't end with him once again having to be the kingslayer is genuinely ridiculous, even without that garbage line that completely regresses his character
the Starbucks cup is perfect symbol for how inattentive and uncaring the last season was treated
The last season feels like a dissertation rushed the night before it’s due. Short, sloppy and shit.
@@Kopite4life12 Accurate considering they rushed it out to try to jump on the Star Wars franchise lol
@@hyperlinkhmv Yet they still gave themselves a whole two years... I'm sure HBO paid for many spa breaks and champagne with caviar in that time while D&D were 'creating"...
You can tell the cast wasn't pleased with the script with their acting honestly
Or the blaringly obvious plot holes, missed story beats, failed character arcs, etc.
So basically the show writers did well when they had the books as a template, but as soon as they had to actually write something from scratch - like an ending - they totally dropped the ball. Almost like they aren't good writers.
thats exactly what im saying theyre not as good as we thought they were they just had the books
They ran out of books, yeah.
I didn't mind season 6, 7 was ok hated season 8 it definitely went downhill after the end of the book tho
Exactly 10000% this, its what I've been saying since season 7
@@aLmAnZio They didn't run out of material, they just chose not to follow the material they layed out in the books. The best example is the character of Stannis Baratheon, who is going to win in the books against Houses Bolton and Frey when in the show, he died after killing his daughter, something that wouldn't happen in the books. What they did to his character was so fucking annoying, and they only did it so they can show off their fanfiction for characters like Jon and Dany and also make things simpler and more basic with it's later good guy vs bad guy plot lines.
I think that everyone dying would have been a better ending.
This isn't me being bitter. I legitimately think it would have been a valid choice.
The good people got together and did their best, but it simply wasn't enough. And it could have gone a different way if Cersei had actually joined forces with the others. But because she was petty, selfish, and short-sighted, and because she was willing to risk human extinction to get a leg up on her enemies, she doomed everyone (including herself) by inaction. She gets to stew in this knowledge as the Night King's army, now joined by everyone who fought in Winterfell, marches toward her with no hope of being stopped.
She wins the Game of Thrones... and it doesn't matter.
I’m not even a fan of the show and I think this would have been AWESOME!
The irony (?) would have been delicious. Shame.
Yes
@@potmeetkettle took the words out of my mouth
Yesss!! Just finished this about 2 weeks ago and this would've been perfectly awful for her 😭 then have the "ice king" kill her and then he sits on the throne and his horns grow into a 👑 crown, would've been dope.
They gave Jon's Glory to Arya, and his Honor and birthright to Bran. Jon lost everything. They assassinated both his and Daenarys's characters.
Oh... oh my god. Bran would be PERFECT as the leader of the new Night's Watch. What the hell.
Yes.
_"I know a killer when I see one."_ -Arya Stark.
Oh, what gave it away, Isaac Newton? The smoldering rubble that used to be King's Landing?
D&D, off to bed without any supper.
Being a killer isn't really much of an indictment, considering how many people the Starks have killed.
@Ivy Sycamore he was the real hero
Says the one who ruthlessly slaughtered the whole house. Arya should look at the mirror to see the the one.
Lone Star without dessert**
Now for Arya to waste ten minutes staring at a horse that could have been spent on actual plot, only to have it disappear the next episode, leaving it as nothing important(like most of the artsy shots of season 8).
1 hour long video...
You can tell that Elvis is clearly pissed off with GoT ssn 8.
who isn't though xd
@@teeemtee5739 LiTeRalLY
@@teeemtee5739 no, I'm afraid that I'm only figuratively retarded.
didn't even realize I was watching a hour long video
@@teeemtee5739 I don't watch game of thrones.
someone once pointed out that theon held winterfell longer than the night king did. lol ill never tire of fueling my hatred for season 8
Theons speech at winter fell had me running into a brick wall
truth
Running out of book material really exposed D&D's writing skills. Their writing strategy is as simple as ticking a checkbox. It doesn't matter if it makes a smart character stupid. It doesn't matter Arya's entrails get stabbed, she's still gonna survive. It doesn't matter if Jamie's heel turn is too quick and happens overnight. All they care about is ticking every box on a checklist.
Why does Sansa say she thought Tyrion was the most clever man in the world? She barely spent any time with him. And he literally did nothing clever in her presence.
She’s once again speaking as though she’s been watching the show, or from the experiences she would’ve had in that world.
I mean, I have never spent time with Albert Einstein and I'd say he was pretty clever. Point is, people talk and Sansa was bound to hear it since they were living in the same place. Given that she kinda learned a lot from Cersei and the Lannister ruling including distinction between propaganda and the truth, since she's literally witnessing it, yeah, Sansa saying that is not far fetched.
Got is not about dany losing mind , it's about d&d losing their mind
It is about them revealing they never had minds.
There were other worse characters that got a better ending. But making daeneyrs look like the only bad person is like wtf???!! There is other foolish characters what about them ????
My favorite part and the sweetest irony is that they rushed this project to do the star wars, but they ruined GoT and then didnt even get star wars ahhaahhahahahha
"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things." -Albert Einste
@@M.L.official this prob ruined them lol
I was actually pissed as Dincklage for being such a good actor and making me feel something when he found Jaime and Cersei under that rubble. Like, cut it out, I'm trying to be pissed over here.
But he made you pissed tho
If you were thinking about the actor and not the character, it kinda reveals how shitty the show has became. All immersion was gone. And yeah, Dinklage was still amazing despite this.
I was fucking pissed when I cried for Daenerys (whom I began to despise in S7) but not for Jaime...
In the rubble ? There was like one brick and a half on top of them. Don't even know how they died.
@@mcyrenne14 All I could think when Tyrion was unearthing Jaime and Cersei and holding the brick... was "SMASH THE BEETLES! SMASH 'EM! KUHNK, KUHNK, KUHNK!"
You don't know what the spiral is? It's to symbolize the show going down the drain. :P
Haha! So true.
Good one
Rotfl...
That actually makes sense. Cause in the books the weirwood tree that blood raven lives in has a bottomless cave inside .
You a beach
I still remember Arya killing the night king….
Me and my friend were watching it.
And the first reaction we had was “that was a cool move, clever!”
But after we thought about it for like… a minute. We got really upset about how little sense it made because that was Jon’s kill. And it was taken from him for no reason just so he could have fire breathed at him.
Imagine they had Greyworm killing Ramsay or Jorah killing Joffrey. Would be satisfying payoff, wasn’t it?
They did Jon so dirty by making him seem like the most important character just to make him into a puppet that can only say "my queen". He was my favorite character and though I know he always wanted to live in the true north, the entire final season made it clear that him coming back from the dead was just a coincidence and had no greater plot value.
How does Jon not end up being the King of Westeros? The whole Tower of Joy angle just got totally obliterated!
He actually always wished to be Jon Stark, but the show kinda went bleh with him.
They did Stannis dirty.
Everyone on the show is dirty. Except like Brienne
@@JH-dr4xo They did Brienne dirty.
I'll always say that Viserys had the BEST death of the show; a greedy guy killed by the one thing he desired most - the crown and gold. Plus the fact that the dothraki killed him in their sacred temple and found a way to do it so no blood would be spilt... genius.
That even was based on history btw. "The fate Drogo submits Viserys Targaryen to in the first season (he gives him a ‘golden crown’ by pouring molten gold over his head) is incredibly similar to Khan’s treatment of Inalchuq, who met his death by molten silver being poured into his ears and eyes. " Khan as in Genghis Khan of Mongolia
@@tauriqabdullah6130 while being all poetic and such, this must be one of the most gruesome deaths there is.
Assuming it was (close to) pure silver, its melting point is ca. 960 C°.
The tissue between brain and ears/brain and eyes will have slowed the silver down a little bit, plus they don't connect directly to the essential areas of the brain.
So, assuming the victim did not immediately fall into a shock he must have felt the molten silver liquifying his brain for at least some seconds. Truly horrifying
@Bgsleo Why would the Dothraki take inspiration for death by molten gold from the Romans and not the Mongols?
@@wildfire9280 Ikr. Why is it 'more likely'?
@@dennisbett747 hope you guys realise there was no romans and mongols in the world of GOT
I like how Drogon is smarter than Tyrion this season lol.
D&D script says that Drogon burning the throne was just co-incidence and that dragons have no intelligence. In that way D&D are like dragons, they managed to get couple of seasons of good material without brains, as a co-incidence, until they burned down the whole franchise.
Thank you for saying im smart.
It's like your boss' rottweiler outsmarting you.
truly D&D are the master writer of our time.
@@juzujuzu4555 and even the few good seasons they had didn't really come from "them" as seasons 1-6 had the actual source material(the books) behind them. Its when they ran out of source material that everything turned became a mess
One of the biggest issues I had with the battle of Winterfell other than the darkness was that the cavalry charge of like 10,000 horses literally did nothing.. That many horses would smash through a formation of foot soldiers like a sledgehammer especially skeletons and decrepit zombies.
And in earlier seasons the Dothraki were shown as riding archers they never once use their archery skills that would’ve helped them in the battle
Nah honestly cavalry wouldn't do well in a battle against an enemy who doesn't have morale no matter how you use them. What are you going to do on a horse that you can't do on foot? Only thing is move faster, charge, and run down enemies in a route, but that's irrelevant because they're defending a castle. Even if they did a flank, what's that going to do against a much bigger block of infantry that won't break under any circumstance other than the death of their king? The charge was just dumb, there's no two ways about it. Especially since they didn't use the dragons at all, just sat by and watched while they have air power, easily the most OP weapon on the battlefield
@@jdstark24 I never said it was smart, just that the effect of the charge was unrealistic.
@@jdstark24 what does morale have to do with cavalry? If there was no advantage to it, why do u think they exist? (Tormund even comments that he learned his lesson when Stannis’ cavalry cut thru his formations like a hot knife thru butter)
@@SkillyMackabee a huge part of the reason cavalry is such an influence on the battlefield is its ability to break enemy morale and cause routes, and to influence the flow of combat. There's no advantage to having cavalry in a defensive battle against an enemy that has no morale. Historically, a majority of soldiers were killed in the rout after they broke formation and ran away, not during the actual battle. Cavalry not only causes fear in the enemy but when they do break you can now run them all down with ease. The idea that cavalry is good for charges is pretty overstated. It's extremely situational and the Battle Of Winterfell is not one of those situations
GoT fans: “Imagine spending eight years for absolutely nothing.”
I don’t have to imagine - I used to watch walking dead.
The walking dead comic is still great the show is a poor adaptation since 3 onwards become too much of a soap opera than a zombie survival.
I was a mass effect fan. Then 3 happened. That hurt.
I quit that show around halfway through season 4 after they found they 3rd or 4th safe haven that turned out to be a surprise murder camp.
I left after season 5 I think, or between. Carl and that girl ran away or something and I was like really... rip his eye
So true. That was one of my absolute favorite shows; another great series about surviving adversity... pissed away in a depressingly similar manner to GoT.
A year later, nobody talks about GoT. Unlike Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, and so many cultural landmarks before it; GoT has disappeared from public thought with neither a bang nor a whisper, but a dispassionate moan
And yet here you are talking about a topic that no-one talks about...
Talking or texting?
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@@bendraynor4817 Because of the first 6 seasons.
@@stevem2323 4* or maybe 5
Everyone: Did she kiss you?
Jorah: Yes.
Everyone: what did it cost?
Jorah: My life.
I much prefer the original version of the script, in which Jorah actually survives and becomes a more major character in the end game - eventually turning on Dany and in doing so completing his arch - ending up in his father's place as commander of the night's watch.
Jeor: Daddy's so proud. Now back to the wall with you.
Such a mangina...
@@fuzzydunlop7928 That ending would have been stupid because Jorah would have never turned on Dany. Hell when they were in Meereen, Jorah was trying to prepare Dany to do what she did in the last season while Dany was the one telling him she would not harm innocents. So no. That wouldn't have been a good development, it would have gone against canon like everything else in the last season did, and would have just show the audience more of how much those two idiots didn't care about the show and the characters in the first place.
The moment i saw mighty khal Drogo perished that way because of her , i understand she is an ill-omened .
The character assassination, in this season is the most heart breaking. More than the unfinished plot threads, or the continuity, it’s the characters who made this show and they destroy years of character development
and now d&d got fired by disney from star wars movie lol
wow i hope so.
Hehe, if true, the "lol, fuck you" brothers just got fucked as the last act, and it tickles me pink.
Drew Warner yes its true
@@barator03 *Whoops!*
Excellent.
l000l thats rich man, total karma.
Euron's actor, Pilou Asbaek, was also pretty disappointed by his Character being so reduced.
I would be disapointed too,if I was him.
The guy propably read up on Euron and thought:''Damn,that's a pretty cool and complex villainous character.It's gonna be so fun playing him on screen.''
And then the ended up telling ''finger in the bum''-jokes and looking like an idiot.
I actually thought he did a pretty good job considering what he got to work with. Shame that they decided to go down the maniacal route, rather than the total religious psychopath of the books.
fucking book euron was reduced to some discount hot topic "finger in the bum lolo" pirate.
As he should be... Euron was a monster in the books. In the show, he was more of an annoyance.
@@Blaklyon0 The show ended too soon. No idea what was up with the knight king because yea he just died, The battle plans where just dumb. I don't know it just felt off. The numbers in the army's never made any sense, They jumped from one scene to the next in no time, They had John say he has never rode a dragon before umm how did he get south of the wall? I could go on but its just a meh I no longer care. They talked about spin offs but the writing in the last season killed it.
The creators of the show never realized that the show's popularity had nothing to do with their talent, they were only converting an old book saga into a tv show. The second the books ended and they had to come up with their own shit, the show crumbled.
wauw, so you're basicly saying: the books were great, awesome writing, why isn't everyone who did not make writing that particular story their lifes-work while tied to irl limitations like budget, time and the fact they are not allowed to make significant character plots about characters from a story, to which they don't have the rights to make these changes, an equally good writer as George?
@@keesvanhameren9025 It's wierd u don't know that but by the time the books ended, the show was a global phenomenon and "budget limitations" and other petty reasons weren't an issue anymore like in the first couple seasons. Not only you don't know that but you seem to be defending the shitty ending of the show ? Ur wierd
i stopped watching after Season Six. from from what i saw of Season 7 and 8..
I wanted to tear the rest of my hair out and Burn Dumber and Dumber with Wildfire. They threw away Jamie's redemption arc, turn Jon Snow into a slobbering moron, and dropped Tyrion's IQ off a cliff
well said. shitty writers ruined the show. I can never imagine worst writers than those 2 idiots
Season 6 was mostly off the books, and is largely a decent season, 7 and 8 were just rushed steaming piles of shit, I think they had the ability write much better but they just wanted to end the show so they could get on with Star wars, and that's just worse really.
It's amazing how the final season made this entire show, which was previously must-watch and talked about quite a bit among most people I know, completely irrelevant and even forgotten. Nobody ever even mentions it anymore, to the point that it's almost like it never even existed. That's impressive for the show runners to mess things up that badly.
When the throne you wanna sit on gets destroyed so you bring your own chair - Bran
this has no right to be this funny
@dexy pexy haha thanks ♡
Hmmmm you look like a Targaryen yourself
Lol 😆😆
The bottle beside brienne's feet has better than that creep..WHY WAS HE A KINGGGGG?
A one hour Elvis the alien video, GOD DAMN
Only morons and losers watch this show. I was so happy to hear that the last season sucks!! HA HA
Biff Larson I never watched the show either but it’s something to watch at least, I was just surprised he made a one hour video
@@lizardman481 "comeback"
@@DumbSomething call it what you will. Not even I thought it was much of a comeback/roast but it was the only word I could think of.
@@lizardman481 Ok, this is cringe.
Jaimie killing Cersei would have also fulfilled the woods witch's Valenqar prophecy in the books. Just to add another reason why it would make sense.
@@Nihilakh4life ... why Gendry? I could see Arya/Jamie killing Cersei in the red tower (then getting backstabbed by the mother of the sand snakes, as Arya takes off the Jaime mask after getting stabbed)... but why Gendry?
HBO gave them an unlimited budget and would given them as many seasons as they wanted. D and D did all of this to start on a new project. Which they got fired from bc of how shit they were.
I will ALWAYS for the rest of my life, never watch anything D and D is a part of.
Same 😒💯
Yeah I have no idea why they didn't stick closer to the books and had like 12 seasons. George might have caught up better with the pressure off. As it seems he gave up as the show passed him
I still cant believe they ended one of the best tv shows of all time like this
I can't believe I still think about how shit this season turned out. Ending a good story is hard but they turned the characters into dolts.
IKR
It's what HBO shows do. Think about it. Oz ended with an anthrax scare that evacuated the prison. That was it. All those seasons of storytelling to end it with a white powdery substance found in an envelope.
The Sopranos wasn't any better either. That whole last season was great and then they have the diner scene where there are all these people that could cause the show to end in pretty much any possible way. Then, Tony looks up and.... that's it.
Deadwood actually had a great ending. They just left us hanging for 14 years before we got it.
Anyone who has watched HBO originals before could have seen this coming. It really didn't surprise me that they dropped the ball at the end
you're fucking dum if you think the show was ever good
absolute shit from the first episode
@@saviorself1164 I would never complain about The Sopranos. The show was a complete masterpiece
You forgot the worst part, when Bran is asked if he will rule over the seven kingdoms.
"Why do you think I came all this way?"
WHAT. So you survived getting pushed out of a tower, escaped your murderous brother, went beyond the wall, and became the Three-Eyed Raven.... SO YOU COULD BECOME THE KING?? HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?????
Not to mention he says "I'm not bran. I'm not anything. I'm the three eyed raven" or some shit of that
@@NekoMiku1234 Yes, becoming an immortal monk should disqualify you from succession, nevermind how these (medieval-esque) feudal lords would respond to their new king being physically incapable. Maybe if he was the son of a loved king, they'd accept that in a normal stable medieval society, but in Game of Thrones after everyone who actually had a claim to the throne died?
It would be a free for all.
Joshua Anderson bran is the son of Ned Stark but he’s still not the true heir if anything they all should be supporting John. At least he deserves it he’s fought hard for what was right. IMO he is the only one that deserves it. Real talk. What were the writers thinking when they made one of the blandest characters that actually has one of the least amounts of screen time in the whole fucking show. He’s not a favorite at all people like some the side characters better ffs. Honestly one of the worst endings to a show in a while.
@@bigdaddy7956 Just to add on to that. Without the tree, Bran will age and die like any normal man despite his powers of vision. When he dies, they'll be no heir so who will rule the 6 Kingdoms then? If not Jon, then the best person to actually rule would be Tyrion. He had an actual sympathy for the people. Plus, though never consummated, Tyrion was legally married to Sansa. Imagine him showing up, just as a joke, and reminding her of this little irony.
Not to mention how shady bran’s motivation is throughout season 8 if you really think about it.
Season 2-7: Arya wanting to go back to Winterfell and be with her family
Season 8: *goes to west*
She took to heart that Pet Shop Boys' song, must be a hardcore fan of them
She wont last longer in the ships..She has never actually been in the ships enough to control a whole ship..
Anything to get away from that skank Sansa.
Sansa, the most evil character on the show, bitch, phony broad!!!
The best part for me with the first four seasons was the horror done better than horror movies. The fear that you feel while watching because you don't know if your favourite character will be alive the next episode. It was so gripping that you didn't want to skip a single second of dialogue.
In my opinion Jaime had the best character development in this show... until it reached season 8 and they ruined it completely.
I think I was more upset about him than anyone else, his arc was like 90% complete 😂
Him and Bre were two sides of the same coin, a beautiful side plot…
The selfish man who pitied himself and scoffed at honor, due to his treatment by others.
The selfless women who refused to pity herself and clung to her honor, despite her treatment by others.
Him and theon
Eh, I don't think it was that crazy that everybody makes it out to be. It was tragic, but makes sense. As much as he actually did love Brienne, and could imagine a life with her, deep down Cersie wasn't just the first and only love of his life aside from her, but was his twin sister. He would always love her no matter what, there was no way he could let her die on her own no matter how much she deserved it. He couldn't live with himself that way if he let that happen. He knew tragically that although he had this happy new option and possiblity of this whole new life with Brianne, ultimately he knew his fate had to be dying with his sister. They came in to the world together and they had to go out together. It actually fits wayyyy more with the whole tone of the story. It's not a everybody lives happily ever after fairy tale deal, but the total opposite.
@@The.Nasty. am i missing something or how was he ever selfish? he pushed a little boy out of a window for his love for cersei, he killed a king and lived w disgrace cause he didn't want to kill his father and sacrifice hundreds of innocent lives, and he risked his life in multiple occasions for bri
@@esqui777 you’re missing something…
Doing things for the people you care about doesn’t mean you can’t be a selfish person.
He put his ego and his relationship with Cersei above everything else, even Bri. I like Jamie a lot, but he is a bit of a shitter.
One of the many simple terms to describe that kind of behavior is called being selfish.
what's hilarious is that in the books once he becomes lord commander Jon lies and keeps a lot of big secrets. So the way his show!self just stubbornly tells the truth no matter the consequences is another example of d&d stripping away complexity and character development
Not only has Jon been able to lie and keep secrets, but the person who raised him and gave him his morals, Ned, could lie and keep secrets.
Even more hilarious: he did it in the show too. He pretended to be a wildling during a whole season, lied to them all the time, including the girl he loved. Seems that D&D kinda forgot that.
My biggest issue with Sansa saying "I wish there was another way" is that the unsullied leave RIGHT AFTER!! Jon literally could've just camped outside for a couple days then come back.
Yeah but Jon wouldn't have gone along with that, it would be dishonorable...and Greyworm is honorbound to kill him for killing his queen, it's ridiculous that he already hasn't at least tried, a betrayal of his character....god, there were so many better endings than the one chosen- it's like a whole betrayal of Dany even more, from every side, a real 'bros before hoes' vibe...and since both their hoes were already dead then why bother- ARRGHH I HATE THAT!!...lol sigh, GoT has given me major trust issues, such a disappointment
@@twiceshy9773 I agree 100%. Its literally just Sansas line that triggers me 😂
i thought the same thing
Like I think sansa is really one of the most horrible people as of now she learned alot from little finger like you say like sansa saying I wish there was another way, she didn't want john to die but she also didn't want him able to come back to winterfell because like you see she seperated from the kingdom and became the queen of the north ... If John would have been allowed to go back to winterfell he would have stayed king of the north she wanted the power so I've never seen anyone else talk about sansa and how manipulative of a bitch she truly is
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Like Cersei ! A love the the complexciting of her character but she’s really a evil bitch (sorry for thé english I’m french)
There were a lot of problematic endings to tv shows : gossip girl, pretty little liars, how I met your mother ... And others that I definitely forgot. But no last season was as badly done and as deeply despised as Game of thrones. None.
LOST was one of them.
That show got sloppy way before the ending though… like the writers got to a point where they were like “fuck, how do we make all this crazy shit make sense?”
@@The.Nasty. lol didn't watch lost when it started, and was very underwhelmed by the critics when I wanted to watch it. So I didn't !
But if we talk non sense then : Pretty little liars was pretty bad. The 100 just went off the rail. Supernatural was a reboot of itself every season, and a parody at a certain point. So yeah ... Pretty much every cool franchise/idea turns out bad at a certain point. Except braking bad. Braking bad was good xD
@@chowla2058 I agree, breaking bad might be the only show that steadily gets better all the way to the very end! 😂
GRRM - "I think realistic, morally grey characters are far more interesting"
HBO - "yeah, ok kid"
Knight King - "yeet"
The False Edge they could have made that Dany scene morally grey instead of slaughtering the entire town after already winning
@@TheSpartan88888 The fact that the show makes Dany a mass murdering psychopath proves absolutely nothing. The show has completely misrepresented every single character in the series - why should we assume it's representing Dany in a fair way now when it never has before?
Just because some plot points are going to be similar doesn't mean the characterization will be. Every single character in the show has been twisted into some funhouse version of themselves so D&D can validate their own moral judgements about the book characters.
Take Tyrion for example:
In the books, Tyrion pledges to kill Jaime, Cersei, and Tywin. He murders Shae - it's not self defense. He goes to Essos and rapes a few slaves, hoping that he can make them hate him as much as he hates himself. He convinces fAegon to sail his Golden Company army to Westeros because he wants to see the world burn down. Then he goes to Dany, intent on doing the same thing, and he asks that in return for his service he should be allowed to rape and kill his sister.
In the show, he's a funny dwarf. He goes to Dany because gee-whiz he just wants to make the world a better place - isn't that great? He drinks and he knows things! LOL!!
I'm sure they got some plot points correct, but the characterization is comically off-mark.
Dany's not going to be a villain in the books any more than Tyrion is going to be a hero. George writes grey characters, but D&D have simplified everyone down to cardboard "good guys" and "bad guys" based on which ones they like and dislike.
They literally turned what was grey in her show character into a one-dimensional villain who is unredeemable without even exploring how ''mad'' she was.
The False Edge king knight from shovel knight?
Knight
Hey there don't blame HBO. They were prepared to give D&D all the time and money in ghe world to make the absolute best show that they could, they just didn't want to. The writers are the only ones at fault here
It's amazing how all the Stark kids realize their father was lying to everyone for decades but still decide that being "honorable" like Ned is what he would have wanted. NO, NO. Ned would have said lying sucks but if you have to do it, then do it. He did it to save children, which is more important than the truth. I don't think the writers even remember that this was a lie.
To be fair, Sansa and Arya lied to people the entire series. And Bran - nothing really adds up if he is still good hearted. He used a lot of people along the way to the throne
Why am I even watching this, I haven't seen an episode of this show?
Surprisingly, I now feel the rage of others towards the show's finale
I've probably only seen about 3 episodes total. I also feel the rage.
It's okay- empathy for those who were hurt and hatred for bad writing are universal, and should be considered healthy.
You should watch it, just stop at season 6
Me too. Kinda like watching the avatar the last airbender movie, getting pissed, watching the show and getting super fuckin duper pissed.
I'm doing the same thing. Wanted to understand precisely why six episodes of a once-beloved series pissed off over 1 million fans. Also finding that these analyses are helping my own writing - they're basically guides on how NOT to finish a story, character arc, etc. and how TO alienate your audience.
@@nivek9165 Maybe not even that since dude probably already knows how shit the ending is
i feel like grrms had a plan for daenerys’ mad queen arc, and that it genuinely could have been really good. she has a habit of mass killing, just in a justified way, so slowly seeing that develop into being less and less justified could have been really interesting . dumb and dumber rushed it way too much ):
He never planned for that
Yeah. As others have said elsewhere, my impression was that Tyrion, who became very bitter in the books for obvious reasons, and others around Dany would also start to move her towards a more destructive path. It seems the last books - if they ever get written and published - will be much darker in general than the second half of the show was.
I know a lot of people took the most issue with Daenerys turning evil, the Night King dying so unceremoniously or Bran becoming king, but for me the most upsetting thing was Jaime's arc being betrayed. I still feel kind of sad even just thinking about that tbh.
They really straight up betrayed every characters arch. Jaimie spends the whole show changing to be humble and honorable and then they throw that out the window and he goes right back to episode one. Same thing with Daenerys being all about peace and freedom for the people and literally says and argues against “ruling a country of ashes” and then they throw that out the window and in two episodes she flips to being a tyrant after 7 seasons of he being the opposite
Oh yes. That annoyed me so much.
@@nateburrill9685 I mean to be fair she lost her husband her baby died trying to save him then she had to see him die twice she lost two dragons and her friend masunday and was worried about Jons claim to the throne getting out and coming into conflict, Varis betrayed her, Tyrion betrayed her for Jamie and then kings landing didn’t submit until the very end after she had already started burning the city so I mean i can see how she went a little nuts at the end.
They honestly really sucked at building up the plots and character arcs. Either they get messed up or some of them make no fucking sense -_- in the end.
@@being2real943 People don't instantly turn evil though. If they wanted to make her eventually go mad then those events should build up to her massacring the civilians. They didn't, she instantly did a complete 180.
Elvis explained why it's so dumb in the video
I feel like Season 8 was written for the kind of people that watches it in a bar.
Well I did that, and NONE, no even a single soul at that bar liked it...
i bet d&d were shocked that the white reddit fanboys actually ended up *caring* about plot and character development
You're hot. Wanna rewatch season 8 together ?
@Max1982 You're really attractive, wanna watch season 8 togheter?
that's exactly what it is .
This happened over a year ago but I still feel that the battle with the Night King should’ve pushed further and ended up in King’s Landing before he was actually killed
Everything could’ve been done better.
It should have been a long campaign over at least 2 seasons imo. The first stand failing, then the remnants scrambling south to garner more support and eventually having lost so much finding a way to strike back. We know nothing of the White Walkers in the show, but they deserved to have their story told. Guess D&D just knew they couldn't do that because they lack imagination.
@@Rockstroem
They could have EASILY done (if willing) to create a full-out war for at least two seasons. Just loss after loss after loss and, like you said, somehow they find a way even after so much death, for Jon to fight the Night King and defeat him forever or maybe like sacrifice himself and BECOME the Night King which then goes into a deep, dormant sleep for millennia. I guess that is too much conjecture. But you know what I fucking mean. lol Like anything other than what we got could have been better if the writers didn't forget their roots or actually had the passion to finish our characters' storylines.
They sidelined the King and the Walkers and made them a distraction from the Iron Throne BS.
Arya ninja killing ‘The Night King’ summed the last terrible 3 seasons for me.
I'm so happy I never watched the last season. I think I actually gave up at season 5. It's just 8 years of people constantly saying "Winter is coming" and then it turns out all you need to do to destroy the zombie army is shank the night king. The other problem I had with the zombie army was the length of time it took them to get to the wall. Did they stop to have picnics? Day trips to Alton Towers? Did they have map reading problems? because all they needed to do was walk south. They can also run, so what the hell took them so long?? My theory is that someone sold the night king some magic beans and he spent 8 seasons trying to get them to grow in the frozen north. What actually was the night king's endgame anyway? Did he just want to rule a kingdom of zombie slaves? What would be the point?
I'm surprised George even allowed those fight scenes, he makes it such an important part of his books that his characters don't have plot armor. He talks ALL THE TIME about how frustrating it is when no main characters die in war and then the show just...allowed nobody to die in the war...
One of the biggest memes of the show's early seasons was that people died constantly, nobody was too important to be killed, and anyone could die at any time. Events like the Red Wedding practically changed how prestige television and pop culture in general approached violence and death in storytelling. Only for the last season to go full 1950s comic book style with unkillable protagonists and villains with no motivation or character beyond because evil.
@@tjenadonn6158 Could not agree more! The last season was the most infuriating thing, I could barely finish the damn thing.
@@tjenadonn6158 They just upped their game by killing the whole series.
That's what happens when you surrender your IP's rights (don't know what the arrangement between GRRM and HBO was), it gets twisted and subverted and trashed.
Kids, if your book gets an adaptation offer, make sure you keep full creative control.
@@jsteel89 haha, that's a pretty good one.
years later in 2021...i still think we need to reshoot this shit
You're not the only one
If Snyder gets a second try why not this? 🙏🙏🙏 the actors, scene dressing etc were all perfect it was just the frickin script!!!
And need a better writers. Please, better writers!
@@zarabee2880 I still like to think they have real game of thrones season 8 hidden somewhere and they will release it after some time.......
hope is a dangerous thing
We need,we deserve a R.R Martin cut.or something with good writers
Nearly two years on and still it pisses me to high heaven that this travesty occurred. And still D&D strut around like they "pulled it off". Arsehats!
what did d&d say in interviews about all this
@@top2737 Basically, "We are the nuts and this was the bestest season of GoT ever". The passed off all the f-ups (Starbucks coffe cups) as either the cast members f-ing up (they tried to blame that on Deneares's actress), or carppy nonsensical plot lines as, "oh that character forgot x, y, z happened" i.e the writers. They got sacked from Star Wars so they did get their comeuppance but still what a shit sandwich, covered in piss for the fans
At least say assholes. jesus fuck, what the hell is aresehats, fucking shit on them god fucking damn
@UCFzcidCtwwZ3gdpAf2vqQ-w Jesus, you’re a moron.
My favourite part is "who has a better story than Bran?" Uhh, just about everyone else present?
I stopped watching the shows years ago so this was just pure joyful comedy to me.
I love how the actors hate Season 8, too.
..."Not to be confused with the popular game Dungeons & Dragons." Don`t worry, they`ve eternally cemented themselves to being called Dumb & Dumber.
Always will be
I love how game of thrones went from one of the biggest shows of all time to "what a mess" in just one season. It's how you can tell what a clusterfuck the show became.
GOT was just like a magic trick after season 4. Your eyes were trickered to watch in certain direction, your brains believed that something amazing happened, until season 8 finally revealed that you were been fooled the whole time.
Constantly building mysteries is so much easier to have them mean anything in cohesive way. GOT build mysteries in every season until the last season just forgot everything about the Lord of light, Faceless men, backstory and meaning of the nightking, white walkers and the use of their symbology.
I would challenge anyone to come up with worse story for season 8, or even season 7 for that matter. What we have is something that even smart 7 years of would write better story. It's so bad that I have to assume it's like that on purpose. Nobody could write that horrible ending on such a rich universe. Maybe they wanted to get the audience of the biggest show on TV completely traumatized for some ritualistic purposes.
@@juzujuzu4555 The writers also killed Stannis
@@juzujuzu4555 yeah, I realized at season 6 the show was never gonna come back. The battle of the bastards didn't seem realistic at all. And they had dropped most of the plotlines at that point. I knew it was no way they could come back
It was actually 4 seasons. They'd been dropping plotlines and simplifying the universe since season 5. Non-coincidentally the same time GRRM left the show. Season 8 was the culmination of 4 seasons of bad writing. After season 6 I don't see how they could have had a good finale
@@micahmills5769 GRRM left already on season 4. And D&D thought they could do no wrong after Season 3.
You can see that season 4 already is worse than season 3 in many ways, writing up to the start of season 4 was great, logical etc. but then it started to go to shite. Many S4 symptoms become obvious later on, but can be seen already on S4.
Just a quick note about the crypts; all the dead are in stone coffins and in a previous episode it was shown that a wooden crate was enough to hold a wight , so it would be perfectly reasonable to assume that if such wight can't break out of a wooden box, it also cannot break out of a stone coffin.
The irony in how bad D&D butchered the final season of GoT to get on the Star Wars project, only to be fired from the Star Wars project shortly after starting it ROFL. How trash can you get at writing.
@@EarthenGames dang I had no idea! Haha power and nepotism will get you every time. But, Star Wars is a dumpster fire too anyhow, let em have a crack at it.
@@Levi-rc8kh only episodes 4 through 6 were great, everything else was disappointing, trash or an absolute pathetic attempt at push a political agenda(WHICH YOU SHOULD NEVER DO IN A ORIGINAL SERIES THAT NEVER HAD IT TO BEGIN WITH, I MEAN HAVE YOU SEEN GHOSTBUSTER 2016!?) even my mother hated the new movies and she loved star wars.
@@xxprototypexx5056 sometimes things are just bad, not because they are woke, or because they aren't. Also, sorry, are you insinuating that a series about imperialism, with one of the characters like Darth Vader and the siths being shown to be literal fascists is somehow.... not political????? Bruh star wars was political from the start, and it was bad, not because it was political, but because sometimes... writing is bad! Plot is bad! You people lack literally all nuance and analysis skills it hurts. To you it's literally woke = bad, not woke = good. Go read a book or something, it's painful to listen to your brainrot.
y'all remember when characters used to camp in Kingsroad because of how ridiculously far King's Landing was?
I remember King Robert and company going from Kings Landing to Winterfell in the first episode without camping.
@@josephconway7945 it's a fuckin pilot episode and K.L wasn't even shown.
@@josephconway7945 I believe the show starts with Robert's company arriving at Winterfell. I also believe the show mentioned that his company's journey took a month or 2?
@@josephconway7945 - Do you remember, by any chance, their trip back to King's Landing? It didn't happen in blink of an eye, did it?
@@jonathany.2565 It actually took a full episode
Littlefinger: "Chaos is a Ladda"
Sansa: "Snitching is a Ladda"
People can die from heat too. Thinking that the heat from dragon’s flames could cause some severe damage. So, like, hiding behind some rocks one foot away from a nightmare blue flame is most likely gonna do something.
The first seasons of Got I felt like I was watching a medieval show. The last seasons felt like I was watching a modern show that tried to appear as medieval
Yes!
But medieval mindsets and world views were never actually explored. It was always just presumed that that was the way it was.
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@@randompanda3415 what do you mean by explored? the relationships between the persons and the way the politics was built felt closer to a medieval background. Kings, loyalty, families, intrigue these were all very important in medieval times or were they not? It probably didn't tell us somth that we didn't know about meideval human relationships but i don't think that was the purpose.
@@danpetru Well yes and no. It's what we as laymen "think" is medieval, but eventually even that stopped and we were left with a glorified soap opera by the end.
My question is, why didnt HBO just hire new writers/directors to continue the series? I feel there would have been SO many writers who would happily continue the show. What they did was terrible to the fans, and almost just as worse to all those actors who have been on the show for almost 10 years. So disappointing. What a complete waste of one of the greatest T.V shows in history...
YoshPrimePainting I can’t understand this too, such a stupid thing
I feel the same way. But one of GRRM's conditions was that he got to pick the showrunners, and shockingly, D&D were the ones that passed the test and were the ones he wanted. Because in an interview they figured out Jon's parentage. I know. So even though they supposedly had a falling out with each other, I doubt George would consent to it, which is not the first mistake he made with this series. And honestly, I don't think it ever crossed HBO's minds either, I think a lot of people involved were just way overconfident and thought because this was game of thrones fans would just like it and accept it. Spoiler alert: no.
But I think its worth noting too, D&D didn't get out of this Scott free. By the looks of it, Warner Brothers is trying to really distance themselves and the deal they made with Disney for Star Wars is being drastically altered so haha.
@superanimegamer01 Drastically altered, indeed...
its like how marvel got russo brothers
@Kyler Markle I'd rather start from the beginning of Season 5, picking up right where S4 left off, keeping in line with the books instead of cutting major characters. Patchface, Lady Stoneheart, etc.
And they actually suggested GoT for Emmy for best writing...
You couldn't make this shit up...
The left does this kind of shit literally all the time.
To be fair, hbo could've gotten away with nominating A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, which was written by Bryan Cogman. Instead, they go for The Iron Throne, written and directed by D&D. I don't know WHY hbo continues to back them so hard. It's like they want to be a laughing stock.
They don't want to admit themselves that it was bad.
@@Monica_Leigh Exactly! They choose the episode with nearly 58 minutes without dialogue only showing off the actors emotions. Watch the videos of The Dragon Demands. They are pretty damn long while pretty damn enlightening.
S8 was awesome at EVERY SINGLE ASPECT. Music, Acting, Cinematography..
Except Writing. WTF
Not gonna lie, I’d have had a much better time watching the big goofy redhead wildling bag Brienne because he loves how she looks when other people rag on it than I did watching Jamie take his character arc, turn it towards her for no reason, and then throw it all away for nothing two episodes later.
Edit: also, I could’ve been FINE with Sansa telling everyone about Jon’s lineage if they’d dealt with the repercussions, but if you aren’t gonna have time to do that find out some other way to do it.
Edit Two: the “Westerosi people don’t like me” BS made me madder than anything else because, like, did the people in Essos love her from the minute she stepped on the soil? Because I sure must’ve missed that! If I recall, every step of the way from the second her Khal died each new group of people hated her and were brought on board by her shows of compassion and Unburnt-ness!
Game of thrones was the worst ending to anything on tv ever. Real shame as it was once the best thing on tv
"on TV"
I honestly feel comfortable saying it is one of the worst endings to anything in entertainment ever. I'm a huge gamer, love movies, and love TV and I've never seen anything as bad as this. Even now.
Star Wars and now, Last of Us 2, can't hold a candle to the absolute dumpster-fire that is Season 8 of Game of Thrones. It literally killed the name.
Talks about movies? Spin-Off series? D&D doing Star Wars? Video Games series?
Gone in an instant.
Helldog 6 it was actually thanos snapped out of existence, unironically
@@Helldog6 wtf. Last of us 2. First person I see not liking the game.? Genuinely curious to what you didn't like so we can have a discussion.
@@seancoetzee5399 Really? There's a very large amount of hate towards it that I've seen. It's genuinely a fantastic game in almost every aspect, but it's story is flawed. If you have the time, NakeyJakey did a really great video about it and it basically sums up my thoughts on the matter. I'll link it, if you'd like to discuss the matter afterward, I'd be more than willing! Have a good one.
/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM
It generally has the worst ending of anything this side of the 1920s.
Jon "My name, my real name is Aegon Targaryen". Why the hell would he say this if he had no intention at all of ever really claiming his name.
Funny how Rheagar has two sons named Aegon.
@@uyuman1 the first one was already dead when Jon was born
@@breezy3392 Rhaegar died before the sacking of King's Landing, so his son was still alive when Jon was named Aegon.
@@uyuman1 Rhaegar was killed at the Battle of the Trident. Then the Sack of King's Landing happened and the Lannisters killed Princess Elia and her children Rhaenys and baby Aegon. Ned called is murder, he and Robert argued about it, and Ned left to find his sister. He found Lyanna at the Tower of Joy in Dorn dying from giving birth to Jon/Aegon. News had already reached Lyanna and her protectors of the royal family's deaths. (GoT pg112)
@@breezy3392 It still would be wierd for Lyanna to name him Aegon, because it would mean that his father wanted to call him Aegon even with a son already named Aegon. Unless Rhaegar wanted to call him something else but Lyanna decided to call him Aegon for Jon's birth name to make sense.
The “Stay back, he’s got blue eyes!” Part I thought was abit more comical than anything
21:56 Dany legitimising Gendry is very sweet, but it also makes absolutely no sense. She goes from loving Jon Snow to resenting him when she discovered he has a stronger claim to the throne than her, but she then creates an even stronger claimant to the throne? Remember that Robert Baratheon claims the throne by right of conquest, so his legitimate son would have a much stronger claim than a deposed Tagaryen would have.
He would if Gendry actually cared about the throne.
@@BradLad56a show inspired by war of the roses would appreciate that it doesn’t matter what the individual wants… their existence provides opportunity for opponents to rally around and act through them.
That’s far too nuanced for this stage of the show tho lol
"WE CAN'T BEAT THEM IN A STRAIGHT FIGHT"
Literally pans to a straight fight
maybe that was a gay fight idk
@@sinistertwister686 i just let out a really ugly snort lmfao
@JCB not only that they had so much time to put everybody to work especially all the soldiers to build more fortifications and such to slow the dead. Also that they had three lines of poorly made defenses and tactics.
The cavalry charge, the inf and artillery dumb shit deployment with no stop to the undead especially when the undead can just swarm them like the zombies from World War z
I loved the show. I loved the characters and I still love them. I loved the actors, the cinematography, the fucking dragons, Westeros. I was invested in this world.
But God I will never get tired of hearing people shit on season eight.
I'm just gonna... read the books now.. I need closure.
I won't read the books. Same ending. I don't see how GRRM can fix this. Maybe that's why delays getting longer for every books...
@@d_lightmatter7176 No, with the right timing and doing nice developements of the characters, you could make a similar ending but making much more sense.
About that....
@ Freshy KcWhizzle: Wyverns... Dragons have 4 legs in addition to wings. She was the queen of hardly anything.
Dude, the show hasn't had a great season since season 4. We saw the problems creep in after they quit following the books with the Dorne storyline in season 5. Then in season 6, it was obvious that the showrunners have no idea what they are doing without George's help. Season 7 just continued to get worse and with the worst of the worst with season 8. Everyone who isn't a mark, should've saw this coming with how bad season 6 and 7 were at points, but they would always end it on a good episode like both of those seasons to give everyone hope. I will only watch the first four seasons in the future, but at least its close to being it's own contained story with the war of the five kings because those seasons follow the first three books and George was originally only going to write three.
The Dothraki were supposed to be horse archers as well, which the show runners totally forgot. I guess being able to out run the undead while firing at them made too much sense.
They could have killed the night king if they were horse archers with the proper arrows
Honestly I forgot the dothraki still existed after she freed all the slaves and shit. They kinda took a backseat after that.
Not like they suddenly had two brand new ways to make DRAGONglass to make arrows out of.
Hmmmmmmmmmm… dragon… dragonfire… fire…
…hmmmmmmmmm
Obsidian makes a great arrowhead
Bro the horses were sleeping