Derma Rolling: Impact On Topical Therapies | The Hair Loss Show
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- In today's episode, we'll discuss derma rolling and its impact on topical therapies. Watch the video until the end to learn more.
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These are very real people. Love their videos. Wish they were in Perth. I'd visit them🙄
1.5 is painful for me and I use 0.5 ,and yeah it still works . patience boys✌️.good diet ,sleep and roll it. Have faith
Maturity is when you know that nothing can cure androgenetic alopecia.
@@shaikhaliabbas5733 maturity is understanding modern science and the role of epigenetic factors contributing for early baldness.you can go bald in your 50s if you want to, or bald early like normal people.
@@shaikhaliabbas5733 lol. Unfortunately you are right. There’s no cures to date.
There are treatments, but obviously a lot with adverse side effects…. These are exploring natural methodologies.
I’ve tried it also, haven’t notice any break throughs, nothing more… nothing less else..
I’ve found 1.5 is painful depending on what area on the scalp, I guess there is thickness difference… and maybe the hair makes a difference too.. the thicker and fuller the hair, the less pain
Where can I buy a derma roller
Thank you both Drs one of the best channels ❤
9:04 i replayed it 3 times,for a moment i thought he said ''the science isnt clear on this shit''
Is derma rolling without the topical drugs going to be effective? I don’t want to use the drugs, I’d rather go the natural way.
you'll be playing catchup if you dont go full on before you lose a significant amount. Start early cause youll be crying later if you dont
@@SuperDodoe This is correct. Natural ways are never enough to combat aggressive hair loss.
" the natural way " ....
Soooo many people do this mistake and they come crying 10 years later (I was on of those " the natural way bro " ). Please for God sake : just get on finasteride !!!
The natural way = you will go bald anyway no matter how much you try !!! I can't believe people still make this classic mistake in 2023... 🤦♂️
Don’t we all
There is no natural way you either accept the risk or accept the balding
Doctors, do you know if 5% Topical Minoxidil Foam is Effective if applied every other day (Once every 48 hours)???
Twice a day is recommended but once a day should be fine. Skipping it every other day is a waste of money and time in my opinion. I do use 5% foam once a day and works magic for me. Good luck.
@@robertbolivarr8363 Once a day will eventually let you down, I swapped from 2x to 1x and over 12 months I lost a lot of ground. Swapped back to 2x and it has leveled out again
Half life is 21hours
What I'd been told, Derma rolling can damage existing hair follicles.
certainly makes sence
That's the point. Damage
@@NonStopGaming15 Yes, though many people don't do it properly and do detrimentally damage existing follicles.
@@stevewise1656 can you point me to where you saw this? I've never seen vast amounts of people killing thier hair follicles even in studies where they use 2.5mm needles. I'd like to research that, thanks!
@@NonStopGaming15 search about how people with non scarring alopecia ended up with scarring alopecia due to microneedling at home.
1:26 blüdflüw???
Blüttflew !!!!
Would you do a video about the possibility of using body hair as donor hair for the scalp?
Yeah, I just started microneedling and mixodil. Research I did seems to indicate they work well together. We will see. I’m only using .5 myself. Once i get use to that I will probably move up to a higher needle, maybe 1 mil. Right now .5 is painful enough! LOL. Got a long road ahead of me on this journey. I figure at least 6 months before I know if its working.
Any update?
@@FPL_Habesha well 2 months into this and im seeing improvement. Granted its not miraculous improvement but definitely seeing growth especially on my crown. I hate micro needling. Definitely painful but not unbearable.
@@tonycicarella876 you still use .5mm? And how often do you derma roll?
Any updates?
How now?updates pls
Thank you so much for these videos, they are very educational and incredibly helpful.
Could you please talk about Azelaic Acid for hair loss? I know some hair clinics use it in combination with Minoxidil. It seems to act as a DHT blocker with some initial, tentative evidence suggesting that it works. It also has a much safer side effect profile than Finasteride (although I am aware Finasteride is a much more reliable and effective medication with strong evidence base). Thank you!
you say hairs in anagen phase last a few years before entering telogen phase.
can that mean that hair might improve even after years of treatment because that particular hair strand was not fully 100% of its original thickness and needs several cycles/years to get there?
or just with one hair cicle hair recovers its original thickness?
Yes with a single cycle up to few cycles. My hair is far more thicker after applying minoxidil.
Please make a video on transplanting beard and chest hair to the head. Thanks 😊
They're not the same as scalp hair.
Great video.i have my hair transplantation 2 years ago and i am not taking any pills. How do u think can i use only derma roller without any medicine?
Can you please do a video on scarring alopecia? I have frontal fibrosing alopecia
Yes i have tried both ways and both works .but the combination gives faster and better results 👍
you try dermapen or derma roller ?
@@itsoverlord derma pen gives the best results,derma roler is a waste product comparing with the other
Can you stop hairloss with an dermaroller?
@@Silverpump the hairloss never stops, it's just slows down, and fin is the only one that can do that. Min and derma roller together with fin is a good combo
@@i.d.6492 topical finasterid is fine too?
Ok, For me personally, I’ve got very slight thinning on the crown area.
Not enough to try minixidik or finasteride.
I’ve tried derma rolling as it’s convenient…
but I’ve used it for more than 6 months on a weekly basis.
Tried different depths; 1.5mm, 0.5mm and 1mm
And it has done absolutely NOTHING and I’ve given up. Gains are Nothing more and nothing less.
I decided to use it solo as I’ve read on a study that apparently micro needling on its own without the help of minoxidil is also affective… in my experience and opinion, it’s BS. Kinda reminds me of the apparent studies of ketaconozol shampoo being as effective as minoxidil.. which is bollocks (I’ve tried that too and still use it once a week) and there’s no no gains with that either.
It seems that micro needling may need to be paired with something topical.
If micro needling alone has worked on Women and mice…. I don’t believe that’s the same for men and MPB.
Even minoxidile finasteride can't stop androgenetic alooecia even after hair transplant hair will fall.
How bald are u?
@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 did you ask me?
@@shaikhaliabbas5733 the other guy.... Because for some, determining on how bald u are. It takes longer to achieve hair growth
@@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 ooh, but bro there Is no cure for androgenetic alopecia
As a beginner do I apply minoxidil immediately am done dermarolling daily
Me too! Do you think there's any problem? I didn't had any side effects doing this. But some people say that's no good!
Did it work ?
@@Pedro94-dpdid it work ?
Does it make sense to dermaroll if you’re on oral minoxidil?
I would think so
Yes, I’ve had great growth combining the two
Yes, because dermarolling makes the body send more collagen and other goodies to the punctured wounds to promote healing, which promotes hair growth.
i would say it depends on your needle length.
Yes but less frequently and at deeper depths meant for collagen stimulation. Not shallow depths that are frequently used for product penetration
Really informative clip-any approach to treating hair loss is going to be holistic and this clip provides some excellent examples of what patients should be mindful of when considering their own treatment.
MINOXIDIL recommandé par mon dermato ! un excellent produit ! je l'utilise après mes opérations du cerveau
just started derma rolling after using topical 5% minixidil for around 3 years once a day - good results with good maintaining however want to try and thicken up a little in places - how often over a 7 day period should i do derma rolling (1.5 mm) - thinking 3 days out of 7 for around 6 minutes?
Thank you for a very interesting video about microneedling. In our opinion, these devices should be carefully used, especially if one is thinking about hair transplantation. They could conduce to a certain degree of scalp fibrosis that could hinder surgery and condition surgical results. What do you think about this?
Two of my top dermatologists told me to STAY RIGHT AWAY from this weird and idiotic craze of derma rolling. Russell and Vikram should to
@@acquiesce100 Those two are QUACKS and you should stay away from them. Plenty of studies ( if you know how to read) which you can read for yourself, including the increased efficacy when combined with minoxidil.
@@acquiesce100 good doctors tell you not to do healthy things all the time. Explain your reasoning
@@acquiesce100best advice as many at home end up with scars which outweighs initial benefits
@@NonStopGaming15scars are common if done at home. Especially with big sized needles, if done by experts ,they know their job but it's not easy doing at home without side effects
Hi doctors, please do a new video about gynecomastia as side effect from finasteride, because i wanna start finasteride, but this specific side effect is pushing me away from even trying one finasteride pill , i wanna know how we can make sure if someone is safe from getting gynecomastia, before starting finasteride , is there any specific blood tests of semen, that we can take before starting ?
There is no test that can tell if you will develop gyno . It's a uncommon reaction and sides happen I'm only 2% . They won't make a video on the subject cause it not very common and not a typic people wana see
@@Live-dt9hj They already did a video about gynecomastia from finasteride before
I was fearful too. Been on fin for months and no gyno thankfully since I developed minor gyno from puberty. Best thing to do is start with 0.25mg a day and maybe some supplements that’ll lower your estrogen because since fin heightens your Testosterone that also means higher levels of estrogen, and for some that little push can give them ED, gyno, the basic sides but it’s rare.
And if you go develop gyno even after stopping then use Raloxifene to help shrink it.
I got gyno after about a year on 0.4mg a day of finasteride
Does dermarolling work on its own?
Is saw palmetto effective instead of finesteride?
I take saw palmetto everyday as a supplementation along with others with good nutrition and I feel it has slowed down my hair loss. I also just started two weeks ago taking minoxidil and finasteride topically but it's too early to tell. Got to wait several months for that. Thinking of getting a HT pretty soon.
How u are takin saw palmetto? As pills?
@@georgekhurtsidze1096 I just started taking them this week
@@grandtrunk7087 which company production?
No it's not, as you never know how saw palmetto is needed ,also it suits some ,doesn't others. Finasteride has more evidence that it works better anyday
I am using 1.5mm derma roller, first i roll the roller, then stamp with as musch pressure as i can to make bigger punctures in the skin, i have completed 7 sessions till date, using it on alternate day basis, lets see how much effect it does.
Planning to start using minoxidil+finasteride topical solution ss well.
Please do update your progress. It would be very much helpful to others.
Updates?
How long after roller do you apply minoxidil?
love the discussion. very helpful, thank you!
Professionals and all they can do is speculate.
didn't tell how many times a week Derma Rolling per week
Does this work on my diagnosis ? I have non scarring female pattern alopecia
Can the Hair Loss Show do an episode on the properties of the ancient herb henna for improving hair strength and preventing loss? I'm normally sceptical about broad health claims, but from accidental and personal experience, there's definitely something to it. It appears to be highly strengthening and nourishing to the hair root, apart from being antifungal and antimicrobial.
are you kidding with this doctors dress or what? 1.5mm is too much and certainly not for home use.
True
lost my LLT God show ty keep coming down diss ,God bless trow more down info .not hair lol
Is there any discussion regarding
1. Use of minoxidil in beard growth 2. mixing LCLT or L Carnitine L Tartrate to minoxidil?
3. And the scientific truth about DHT blockers in both scalp and facial hairs
Is it safe to exercise afterwards?
Can you do a video on Alma TED hair restoration? Does it work?
I’m a little worried about starting topical minoxidil because I tried it a few years ago & got heart palpitations. Looking back i think I used too much at once, do you have any experience with this happening?
I've been using it once a day for the last 2 months and I haven't experienced any side effects. Try using it once a day as they recommended
You can use o.5ml instead of 1ml a day . I have experienced this and I should say we already have high bp .so eat healthy, eat more veggies and your bp will be normal
I have been using 10%minoxidil (2ml) for few months once a day about 4 times a week on average. I dont use it everyday. Its kinda random. Sometimes, I skip for a week too and I apply it again for a week and again stop for few days.. Its working great.
I got chest pain using it twice a day as per the box and more than 1ml.
I will lower to 0.5ml and once a day now. If i keep getting chest issues I won’t use it again.
There is less than 5% of people getting negative effects from oral minoxidil so chances are you are very unlucky or it's in your head as placebo is almost as likely. If you had prior problems with it absolutely only try if your doctor clears you. Why risk it?
Always the most necessary videos. I wish I lived in Australia .
QQ though - What should be the frequency of derma rolling ?
Medicube has a non invasive micro needling device. How would that compare to the normal ones.
hi can you give advice or make a video having seborrheic dermatitis and hair loss
👍👍👍🌹🌹
Will this not increase the risk of infection?
Very informative 👏
Thanks for the show ,but I need your help
The best chance anyone can give to hairs is To block DHT. Try pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto. But do massage your scalp. Massage can do wonders. Minoxidil i won't go for personally.
Scalp massage does NOTHING. It's just bullshit.
This is the biggest scam in the hairloss community.
Edit : saw palmetto etc... won't stop the balding (not strong enough). You need finasteride.
@@exactly1176not even Finasteride stops balding especially for teenagers or young adults in their twenties. After about 10 - 15 years, they start to rapidly lose from sensitive areas. Many switch to Dutasteride however it only buys them a few more years. However Dutasteride + Hair Transplant when needed for temples areas assures a full of head of hair for life until death.
what about for alopecia from stress. any advice
Stop stressing and hair will grow back, if it's from AA then no
@@i.d.6492 stress caused the AA
I have a question. Can you do only 1 cure of minoxidil and then use finasteride to prevent the new hair from minoxidil to fall out ?
Hair fall is due to shedding of older ones for new one to grow.
Thank you so much for every single video you make.
so does micro scarring occur with using the Dema roller, ie would this be blocking new hair growth with scar tissue?
My thoughts too
Main people end up with scarring leading to more issues than benefits
Anything that increases muscle mass and strength has the potential to stretch the scalp tighter across the skull which is a primary cause of male pattern baldness. Derma rolling helps to anchor the scalp and reduce tension, therefore, reducing hair loss.
This is an interesting opinion forsure
I took oral finasteride for 8 months and didn't see much hair change but my depression was made worse and my sex drive was affected. Now do micro needling once a week with Minoxidil and finis.
I've been on it for 1.5 years and no side effects whatsoever. 🤷
Hello, for what I heard from doctors. If you already have depression you are much prone to the side effect
@@ytsux9259 Lucky you!
@@kevinlaurent577 I see well this makes sense. I could feel my mood crashing down hill. I don't like taking any pharmaceutical drugs inside my body and now I know why!
@@newworldlove7031you’ve got to eat well, lift weights and do cardio. Lots of protien in your diet. A lot of people I’ve found who get side effects don’t do these things
I know you guys prob won’t see this but I really need advice from anyone… I got covid in august it was the sickest I’ve been along with strep A, then late November my hair started falling out like crazy, I got bloods done I am low in folate and am starting prescribed tablets for this, my hair is so thin now in the matter of 2 months, this has ruined my life and as a father I am ashamed because I won’t even go out the door it is that bad. I am 27 by the way, only bald person in my family is my grandad on my mothers side, he receded early 20s I had no signs of recedding but everywhere is now thin…
It should be because of telogen Efflevium, you can try PRP therapies and medical therapies
@@sudan9735 my hairline is even thining everywhere on my head :(
@@midnightdragon8812 u can get onto fin min and pin
@@midnightdragon8812 if it’s telegen effluvium then it’s temporary and if the underlying issue is resolved then over several months it should return to normal. I had a health thing a year ago however, in my case it was both that and male pattern baldness. So not all returned. However I then went on finasteride half a tablet a day and minoxidil once a day. Hair density is about 90-95% now
Sorry to hear this.
Try Derma rolling for 3-6 months.Then go from there.I been doing it for over two years.Amazing results.Good luck
If i dermaroll and use minoxidil along with M shampoo (needed for my seborrheic dermatitis) and oral saw palmetto, after 2-3 years of starting this and getting most the hair recovered that i can possibly get back, can i not taper off the use of minoxidil if i keep up the rolling?
I should have broken this down into a statement, then question.
You should eat healthy first to clear seborrheic dermatitis, nothing else works
Hello guys , can I start dermarolling 2.5 months after a hair transplant t
1 month after hair transplant is fine. But use 0.75 for a month or two and switch to 1mm later. My hair transplant doctor confirmed this.
3 months min let your scalp recover from surgery
Wait until the scalp is fully recovered, which I think is at least a couple months.
I would play it safe . No need to be in a hurry with microneedling.
I would wait at least 3 months after your hairtransplant before starting microneedling
Anyway transplanted hair will fall out. Dermarolling with 0.5 mm after 1 month is fine . After 3 months switch to 0.75 mm.
Anyone who has dermarolled with 0.5mm knows that it just punctures the top of skin,hardly penetrates deeper. I almost feel like ive not dermarolled whenever i used 0.5mm.
Continuity is important for dermaroller benefits..
If you are so worried just use 0.5mm until you feel safe to increase depth of needle.
Anyway top hair transplant doctor in my country confirmed this.
so what do you think about topical finasteride? can topical finasteride enter directly into bloodstream?
Yes, topical Finasteride seeps into the bloodstream through the hair follicles, but not nearly as much as oral Fin.
@@ytsux9259I use Rosemary oil on my hair and that blocks DHT. Can that go into the bloodstream?
I use a 1.5 without a lot a pressure with keeps foam, however I ordered a real needle .5 to use the correct way. The 1.5 has worked ok but from my research I heard real needle 192 are the real deal and pentrate properly. The non real needles aren't making proper holes like a real needle would. Also I just added coffee mix with organic coconut oil with a few rosemary as a good applicant.
Hope this helps
Can you tell me about the mixture of rosemary, coconut oil and coffee?
I will try using this mixture .
is it true that derma-roller produces more damage to the skin than other micro-needling solutions ? like stamp or pen
I tnink that is the truth. Rollers go into skin by 45 degree angle. Not ideal. I like dermapens and dermstamp more.
Two of my top dermatologists told me to STAY RIGHT AWAY from this weird and idiotic craze of derma rolling. Russell and Vikram should to
I wish I lived in Australia, do you offer online Consultation I'm in Los Angeles USA.
Hey doctor, shall take finasteride at 17 or should i start with minoxidil and work my way upto finasteride until I’m 18-19 so that my hormones don’t get disrupted
You should start only at 21 even though doctor recommended 18
This channel continues to get worse and worse. Mindless reiteration of the same topics over and over, with very little or none (mostly none) new info.
What was the point of this video? That you cannot know exactly which thing is helping you the most if you're using more than one thing at the same time? That not everyone is suited for the same treatment, that you need to do the treatment regularly, and that you don't really have any concrete answers? WOW, brilliant. There's like dozen of other videos on this channel about derma rolling with the same content.
What new info did this video provide on the subject of derma rolling? Nothing.
Stop being lazy with regurgitation of topics like finasteride, minox, derma rolling and maybe one other additional topic. Invest some actual effort in these videos, talk about new treatments (PDO Scalp Threading), treatments that are in development (Pyrilutamide), etc.
If you don’t like their content.. it’s simple don’t watch it.
@@stephenpapazoglou5444 it's called feedback
@@stephenpapazoglou5444 What D C said.
please tell me how i can save my hair line and i also have hair thining issue
i don't want to use
fenastride
minoxidil
I'm 21 y/o please tell me..... the right way
Topical finasteride bro
Hello guys
Could i have shedding if I switch from liquid minox to foam?
No it's the same . But shedding is common in the first months of minox can last for a few months
Im using oral minoxidil and fin. Does dermaroll help cause there isn't a topical solution I'm using
That's the best way to do it if you're derma rolling, if you were using topical min and fin you'd be at high risk of heart issues after introducing those into your blood stream from derma rolling
More people who have wasted a medical degree👎