The problem with most studies is it doesn't show how side effects could be caused by other markers or environmental effects. I've been taking finasteride for 10 years, and about a year back I started feeling really depressed. My doc said he thinks I should stop the medication, and I asked before that, could I have a full panel of bloodwork done just to see if something else is causing it. Turns out I had extremely low levels of vitamin D. I started supplementing and getting outside more and now I feel great. Correlation does not always equal causation.
This is what happened to me. I was taking 1mg per day as that is what I was told to take. First 3 months I didn’t notice a single side effect. I thought this is great. I’ll get a hair transplant carry on taking this. Anyway, month 4 I had a complete breakdown. Now just to be clear on this, I have never been depressed in my life. Never suffered from anxiety either. Month 4 on 1mg per day. I started noticing I would get disturbed sleep every night. Thought nothing of it. Within the space of 2 weeks I completely broke down. Felt depressed as hell. Had to take myself out of work and just starting to feel a bit better now a week off the tablet. There is no question it is the tablet because I was on nothing else and I’m absolutely gutted that it is the tablet as I don’t want anymore hair falling out. After finding this video tho I will take your advice. I will leave it for a month then try lower dosage and hopefully without side effects. Thanks Edit: just an update to this and I feel very embarrassed saying this but I did in fact get a hair transplant and went back to 1mg per day and I have had absolutely no side effects at all. I don’t know why I initially had them but I’ve been on finesterade for probably 18 months now and I’ve had zero effects. Yeah so there you go, sorry if I put people off and I questioned whether I should put this but you have to be honest. Cheers
It's ironic how a pro-finasteride video became a collection of hundreds of testimonies of how finasteride ruined their life, and links to studies. Respect to The Hair Loss Show for not taking down this page and letting real people talk about their experience.
Idk how i landed on this video, but is hair really worth it in middle age men.. i mean some side effects are suicidal thoughts, increased anxiety and depression? males have a high suicide count.. Not to mention the potential brain fog.. that is enough for me to just go bald and embrace it if that day ever comes.
balding also increasing anxiety and depression especially in middle age men. Esp in the social media era. So we need to be 100% sure if its nocebo or actual side.
Videos like this are what pushes me over the edge into taking finasteride. I now have post finasteride syndrome at the age of 21 consisting of severe genital anesthesia and much reduced orgasm quality. I'm going to lose years of my life before this is cured and I can finally out this behind me. Please don't take the risk like I did and buy into what these doctors are saying. The truth is that Merck knew about persistent side effects but strives to hide it. Look into the unsealed documents and never touch this poison. How sad that the medical community has failed it's patients in this manner.
@@matkorkes1304 appreciate the sarcasm dude ...just asking about people's well being even if it's a nocebo or other effect which just crossed the path of fin
It sounds like most people don't need as much as often the label recommends. I blame the pharma companies. People may be unknowingly blasting themselves with way too much. Too much of anything can be hazardous.
@@dw4525that doesn't even make sense. If it was purely for money they wouldn't even recommend finasteride so that people would have to get more transplants
5AR is important for brain health (mood, sleep, motivation etc). Finasteride lowers 5AR by minimum 70% on 1mg per day. Over time it causes problems. PFS could only occur if there’s been a permanent negative change somewhere in this system either 5AR is no longer produced or other mechanisms have in effect permanently “deregulated” from lack of action.
@@ztvvtsh65 how long will that take? I've been on finasteride for 2 years until recently I noticed sides so I stopped immediately. Its been a week and so far, nothing has changed. I'm having ed and very low libido. Its strange how I never got any sides all throughout those 2 years, not even at the start but now all of sudden, I feel broken.
I developed erectile dysfunction after taking about a week and a few days. After that it got progressively worse per day. I had to stop by the time I got to two weeks and a half. It destroyed my sex function and my penis would not get erect at all. I got so scared! I’m still scared if I’ll stay like this for life. It’s already been around 8 months and I’m not better. I feel worse at times with severe depression and constant brain fog and memory loss. But what’s worse is that I can’t get an erection like I normally would. It’s not mental either. I was happy and waiting to get results and have beautiful hair. And I had a lot going on for me. This destroyed me. I have friends that it did the same. So what’s the treatment to fix this??? Haven’t found it and endocrinologist just say it’s in my head. How I would it be in my head when I NEVER think that I have brain fog, muscle mass loss, erectile dysfunction, and some puffy nipples. My capacity to control my body must be insane for it to be just in my head…
@@egbertsmith2435 how do you do that? This is probably why it’s not well known enough. Not many know how to report it but also I know as a man we keep to ourselves and we do not want to report it due to being a hassle or worse getting chastised and looked upon baldly by others.
I got persistent side effects (ED, low libido, etc) months after discontinuing finasteride as normal, healthy 23 y/o male with no preexisting medical conditions. Side effects from fin are definitely real, and for an unfortunate few permanent.
Im sufferer from Post Finasteride Syndrome. Suffered for 11 years now. I strongly recommend not taking it. It has the potential to more or less destroy your life.
Started on Finestride, then dutasteride. Had progressively worsening effects...however not very long later I had discovered I had low T from a few other, completely unrelated medical problems and am now on TRT for life. I think dutasteride seven days a week is complete overkill as my DHT is permanently crushed to almost zero, but even with no DHT my side effects are much less on TRT than before. To a large extent, if you have sufficient overall T levels you can survive with severely depressed DHT levels for a long time. People with ‘post finestride syndrome’ are most likely with an advancing low testosterone problem that don’t have enough T any longer to cover for the missing DHT... Also, DHT levels when you have low T seem to pegged more as a ratio of estrogen than testosterone...people who ate higher than average estrogen converters, with low T and a high ratio of DHT to T seem to people vulnerable to baldness anyway... If you are thinking about starting on a DHT blocker, get a full hormone panel done first!
You need a full testosterone panel, including DHT and estrogen. If you get a liver function test done as well, then an endo can calculate your free androgen index based on SHBG and albumin levels. My free androgen index was absolutely appalling. Even worse than my free T...it was basically 50% of the minimum level at which you can be treated in the U.K. There are some people who take estrogen as a hairloss measure as it apparently reduces 5AR activity somehow and thus lowers DHT. Since going on TRT I’ve cut my Dutasteride usage from every day to twice weekly and added in topical fin 0.25 and increased minoxidil from 5% topical to 15%... So far hair seems to have got thicker, not thinner...
Only been taking finasteride for like 2 months and I’ve been scaling off of it. My doctor said it was reversible, so I’m gonna get off it ASAP. Side effects horrible, I’m a completely different person
I had an effect after 2 days of taking 0.25mg for 2 days to see if it would agree with me. I was 18 had a high T, got a script from a pharmacist. After 2 days my dick did not work for a week and took another near 10 days to recover, I'm 32 and my hair is the same as before, allways had a strange hairline even as a kid. I would see a endocrinologist maybe TRT would help alot Could be something else. Full bloods and check for hornoan levels and just everything full blooodwork. Maybe take some supplements multivitamins and viatmins, eat betterz sleep longer get some excerzise. Try to avoid anti depressants as they could make you feel even more strange. Working out could help. In my mind finesteride and dut is just poison that works for some but it it's that toxic to a fetus god knows what else it must do. I was really lucky I only took a wel half dose over the course of 2 days crazy lucky I did not take dut. These guys sound like pros but it is how they make a living and less treatment = less money. A new and safer hair growth drug is being tailed the company does not have the best reputation but anything is possible. I'm on ablowndose of testosterone gel due to the pain meds in given lowering my T level. Has not effected my sex drive but just felt tired and not right. On the gel feel great but don'tess around with blackmarket workout T. Hope you feel better. How do you make a hormone?..... .... Don't pay her !
The side effects is you can't get hard for 2 weeks at 18 or so that was frightening, I'm 33 now and my hair hasent realy lost any, but I took in total half a pill over 2 days, this is not stuff to be messed around with, I'm currently waiting for testosterone gel as I have realy bad neve damage in my abdomen and the pai killers lower my test, I order USP cialis from China and take a micro dose every week or a half dose when I want some fun. Please don't take this stuff unless you have full blood work done beforehand to see your hormaon levels, and make sure they don't just want to make mo ey. A usable dick and no hair or hair a dick you can't use then you loose the hair.. So many guys have perninabtpy lost the ability to get hard from this stuff and it's so toxic I would just avoid it and use other topical rogaine that's generic
Does finasteride cause sleep disorders? I have taken it only for 9 days, with a slight weakening of erections and a significant decrease in libido. However, the strangest symptom is waking up too early. It is not a matter of anxiety: when I am nervous, I usually have a hard time falling asleep. During these days, instead, I have fallen asleep very quickly, but I have always woken up early and become unable to fall asleep afterwards. This has never occured to me in my life, regardless of the level of stress. I discontinued the drug 3 days ago, with an improvement of the sexual symptoms (which had never been severe anyway), but the sleep disorders persist.
@@rudrum Hey Rafal, I have the same problem. My sleep ends at 3 hours and I have to take a very strong sleeping aid every day to maintain sleep. Without sleep I'd already have killed myself. It's a nightmare become real. Insomnia is the worst of all PFS symptoms, I guess. Did it improve already after you wrote this post? If you are seeking advice regarding sleeping aid, write me. You are not alone in this. Take care, man!
I just took my first dose last night - hair isn't too bad yet, but was curious to see how I responded. Last night, soon after the first dose I felt intense light-headedness and some brain fog coupled with an intense difficulty to get to sleep. I eventually did manage - woke up feeling slightly better. I have noticed that my erections have also somewhat weakened alongside my libido. This is super noticeable for me - as my libido is usually really high and it's easy for me to get an erection. I also noticed today that my seaman is super watery. Do you reckon I should continue with the drug?
@@chrisdoesmusic it will manifest very soon. You won't sleep well and your libido will go downhill. Issues with memory and lightheaded will stay for the whole duration of intake.
@@sweeps42 I can at least have erections and intercourse now but my libido is still really low and my manhood area still feels different, kinda disconnected.
I read a comment from someone that could help you : Best treatment plan is a combo of low dose HCG (250-500IU) every other day, Progesterone cream 10-50mg once nightly, an aromatase inhibitor (if needed), and HDAC Inhibitors (butyrates, NAC, lithium, etc.) daily. This would need to be done for a number of months. The HCG will stimulate neurosteroid synthesis in the brain (verified in multiple TBI studies), Progesterone will further make more Allopregnanolone, and HDAC inhibitors help reverse some of the methylation (verified in cancer research) that occurred on both the enzymes and the receptors. If you're someone who got really screwed up by 5ARIS, you may need to run additional "cycles" of DHT based compounds to downregulate and restore signaling to the Androgen Receptors after you reboot the neurosteroids using the above.
@@gustavobastos769 nothing happened to him. hes a terminally online chronic masterbaiter with a history of mental illnesses, depression and ssris now blaming one of the most prescribed pills on earth for his worthless existence.
I have a feeling the numbers are wrong when it comes to side effects from Finasteride. They say only 2-3% of people get sides from Fin, that BS. How is it that myself, and a good friend of mine both suffered similar side effects when taking Fin? My sides came a bit later, and his sides earlier. That to me doesn't sound very rare.
@@tired_of_everything0 Hey, sorry for late response. I'm in my mid thirties. Fin works really well, and I'm still taking it. However, these common sides that are said to be 2-3% must not be right.
@@daviddoff5797 every medicine carries risk. My migraine medication does too but that doesn't mean I'm going to have chronic migraines the rest of my life because of an irrational fear of side-effects that occur in a small % of users. By your logic, majority of pharmaceuticals should be avoided since most carry potentially serious side-effects.
Took Finasteride for a couple of weeks. 0.5mg to try to reduce side effects. It stopped the hair loss, but it made me extremely depressed and impotent. Wasn't worth it for me. Gonna have to figure out another treatment. I find your skepticism of the side effects at the beginning of the video a bit odd, considering your reasoning for the skepticism is because people were treated with 5mg years ago and were fine. It wasn't discovered until 1992, so it makes sense that they wouldn't discover longterm side effects until recent years.
@@Ethereal11177 what do you mean after only two weeks? Medication side effects are often immediate. What a bizarrely irrational response to someone sharing a lucid and factual experience
The thing is, you are saying it yourself. "We gave Propecia 5mg/day to old 50 year old men, nobody complained back then". Exactly. Give a 50 year old with already low DHT levels a drug that will reduce DHT, he wont notice. Give a 25 yeard old with HIGH DHT levels a drug that will reduce DHT and it will probably change his life to the worse. But he can keep his hair.
I was taking finasteride for a year. I noticed side effects after a couple months of consuming it, ED. Then I stopped using finasteride, but not getting any better. I realized that I vape back then, which is it could cause the same side effects, ED. Then I stop vaping as well. Now everything is normal again (4 months). You guys are right, thank you for giving me hope back then.
@@trevorthiessen6317 I've been getting all the finasteride out of my system for 6 months but still not working. So I think it was the vaping, but finastride plus vaping at the same time makes it even worse. At least for my case
You should really update this video as it now comes across like you are not just downplaying the potential adverse effects but are deliberately mischaracterising them along with their history of reporting. Saying they essentially appeared from nowhere 10 years ago in a ‘strange round-about way’ is simply not true. There have been many animal studies, going back to, at least, the early 2000’s showing permanent genital alterations. Court documents were released in 2019 showing the safety profile from the manufacturer to be extremely misleading when it came to logging adverse events. It has since been confirmed the persistent adverse symptoms are likely due to gene deregulation (epigenetics), therefore claims of a nocebo effect are really just a tactic to discredit and downplay reports of legitimate harm.
But that doesn’t change the fact that all the studies on pfs so far are poor quality I personally do believe in pfs but I actually believe it’s even rarer than portrayed online i think a lot of the cases are either psychosomatic or down to other health issues
@@RH-eb6tm Without wanting this to appear like a personal attack, you say you ‘believe in PFS’ yet follow up with the previously mentioned dismissive claims. Denial of PFS/persistent symptoms typically unfolds as follows: First it’s claimed it’s all make-believe or ‘psychosomatic’. When informed about evidence of biological abnormalities it’s said sufferers must have another underlying illness or have abnormal results due to ‘lifestyle factors’. So now it’s not imaginary? Interesting. This is elaborated with further claims that biopsy results may indeed be indicative of disease, just unrelated to Fin use. At this point some vehement naysayers may claim of these men - and these are young men - must have, coincidentally, had these problems prior to using Fin but somehow they, collectively, only became aware them during or after Fin use, leading them to falsely believe Fin is responsible. Or, they were aware of them prior to Fin use but want a legal payout or something to blame their pre-existing symptoms on because they are dishonest. When it’s pointed out the biological abnormalities match those abnormalities found in previously healthy animals given 5ARI, responses are either thin on the ground, or it’s claimed that drug trials and FDA safety reports speak for themselves. Typically, there is no direct response to the fact Merck’s redacted court papers prove they lied about the drug’s safety record because there is no way to justify that course of action. It’s all just a big coincidence, right? If you’ve read the few focused PFS studies (those specifically investigating PFS patients and experimental PFS animal models) then have you reviewed the associated research references? How are you personally defining PFS? It’s simply lasting and varying symptoms after 5ARI use, and not necessarily limited to ‘sexual dysfunction’ or ‘depression’ that was later added to the warning leaflet. Not all evidence of harm is listed or searchable under ‘PFS’ and direct research on PFS men is still relatively new. So if you haven’t done so already, consider widening your investigations to include general and specific studies on 5ARI human and animal subjects with a focus on adverse outcomes, also androgen and androgen receptor-related diseases. Look at a wide range of neurosteroid and neuropsychiatric papers. Consider reviewing other post-drug syndrome research, you’ll note epigenetics is a common theme, so review genetic/epigenetic literature too. Don’t look in one place for answers.
@@etonmess6247 your making it sound like I said it doesn’t exist which I didn’t the main point I’m trying to make is that the constant fear mongering online isn’t helping anyone and there is a lot of people that have convinced themselves that they have it when in reality they don’t people underestimate the power of the brain when it comes to these things and I think people should consider the fact that it could be ‘in their heads’ if you like because a lot of people seem to overthink possibly down to other mental health issues such as ocd for example it’s very easy for a person with ocd to convince themselves that they have the condition don’t get me wrong there are promising studies but there still isn’t solid proof there may well be proof in a few years time but at this moment the evidence is nowhere near strong enough
@@RH-eb6tm I think it’s safe to say that no one can fully determine who is or isn’t experiencing their symptoms due to the drug, other physical factors, or perhaps purely psychological factors by simply reading a person’s limited online posts. Although, I disagree that there isn’t already solid proof that 5ARI are potentially harmful to some users. I think what you might mean is the current evidence (those focused PFS studies) isn’t quite strong enough to conclude a direct causation with Fin in some men who report persistent symptoms. There is, however, strong evidence that these men have enduring abnormalities and there is strong evidence that 5ARI have caused similar enduring tissue changes in rodents.
@@etonmess6247 Yh I would agree with that what I don’t really take issue with people giving warnings about the drug because some people will have a genuine bad reaction to it very rare but it does happen unfortunately but I what I do take issue with is people trying to scare people who are already taking the drug by saying that they will eventually get it and tbh I reckon quite a few people will have gotten scared and given themselves a nocebo effect from that it’s really hard to determine whether the issues these people are having are down to fin or other health issues but a lot of the pfs people will not consider other possibilities and this is what is keeping them unwell as they are thoroughly convinced that fin has cause they’re problems and no one can tell them otherwise they usually respond in an aggressive manner which makes it hard for people to help them
It is irrelevant to compare the rate of erectile dysfunction between people having taken finasteride and the general population. Because PFS is not only erectile dysfunction, it is a full set of troubles going from sexual to cognitive and physical, consequences of the hormonal unbalance induced by finasteride. I understand there is here an advice consisting in practicing stop and go (1 month / 5 month). It's a dangerous advice. Once the unbalance is there, most of the time it's too late. The body can't recover and there is currently no treatment.
How is it dangerous advice? Why should anyone keep taking finasteride if they know that the drug is causing problems for them? Also, how long is too long when it comes to taking finasteride?
@@brokenbutterfly3178 He is right. And to answer your question, people keep using it because they want to desperately keep their hair, so it's a tradeoff. How long is too long: there is no rule, everyone is different. Some can't even recover from a single pill.
@@Joe-dz2fl they don’t know cause it’s not real 🤣 Any bad feeling they feel they will blame on finasteride for the rest of their lives 🤣 “my wife left me? Must’ve been that poison finasteride!!!” 🤣
Have been off the drug for 6 months and my dick is numb, insônia and anxiety. Being impotent is enough to make a man end his life but finasteride side effects are way worse. From erectile problems to suicidal ideation! There are dozens of side effects. Used topical for 2 weeks. Viagra stopped working
@@douglas5097 yes. Testo at the sky, everything is normal. Finasteride does something to the neurologic receptors that are all over your body. There are researches ongoing investigating epigenetics issues on this venom. Some people are affected while others are not.
I started with 1mg/day for 3 days within these days, I felt normal, but had no libido, so I didnt try test if had sides, on the 3rd day I tried, and I noticed sides, after frantically researching I assumed it was all in my head, blamed it on my anxiety etc, went off it for 3 days, sides went away. and tried it again today, sides are back again... I think I'm just going to let nature take its place
I took it for 3 days (and stopped) and the sides went away. Then I took it again for several months (at a lower dose where the sides weren't obvious at first) and the sides never went away. What I'd give to be in your shoes and to be able to make another decision!
@@noahlaferriere5515 No improvement in the last 2 years. The symptoms that did improve a bit, did so in the first week or so, although a few people have reported improvements for up to several months after quitting (there's a big community out there). Most of the damage is hard-wired. PFS is considered a lifelong condition with no known cure, very similar to what SSRI and acne meds victims have to deal with. More details in my main comment on this page.
I got Minoxidil and Finasteride. Started using the Minoxidil only as I had read about the side effects of Finasteride. Started it and never had any side effects thankfully.
@@vodkaburner3371 Thank your for your response. I am debating myself wether i should use Fin or not. But I think I don’t want to take the risk. I will start Minox soon. Hope it won’t make it worse...
Guys, you should know you are playing a hair or death lottery. Vast majority will get hair, according to statistics, but if you are unlucky, as it happened to me and many others, you might end up with your life ruined. Permanently. Sex sides are the less important. In my case, insomnia and depression are the big deal. Actual reasons are still to be determined, but 3 major options are on the table on why when you have your 5AR Enzyme recovered after quitting finasteride form 3 months your body never functions the same again. I wish I would have never approached this poison. My advice, don't take the risk. Accept baldness, use topic or get a transplant.
@@oalbornoz In principle action of topic finasteride is local so the risk of causing a big mess in your hormones is lower. However, i've heard of a few cases where topic also lead to severe symptoms. Check on Propeciahelp webpage for these cases.
I have to say, I am deeply saddened by the fact that I am not able to take finasteride because of the horror stories I have seen on UA-cam. As reassuring your videos are, those other videos have really spooked me...
I will repeat a what I said in another comment regards “all those people” you see giving horror stories. There are also people on hair loss forums with vested interests. They suck in gullible people into their forums to make money off ad revenue of lawyers looking for lawsuits of gullible victims with imaginary conditions like post finasteride syndrome that are all in their head, and from snake oil hair loss companies who put ads on their and sell products that don’t work. There is an entire online industry centered about these snake oils salesmen. They flood finasteride UA-cam videos to crate the imagine that many people have the imaginary post finasteride syndrome to sway them from using the drug and signing up for membership their forums and buying their useless products (which also often have side effects). Mathematically, it’s impossible for that many people to have such side effects because 1) the well researched studies with good sample sizes and years of follow ups don’t show it and 2) the patients of hair loss doctors experiencing side effects are not higher than in the studies. If the studies were wrong, the patients would be experiencing it and finasteride would not be used by millions of people around the world, making it one of the most popular drugs. If something as severe as ED was or deep depression was experienced in a large percentage of people taking the drug, it would NOT be used consistently by millions of people around the world for years and decades. Many people will put up with minor side effects, but they would NOT put up with severe side effects like ED or imaginary post finasteride syndrome or very deep depression. Most people would drop the drug if they were the case. But it’s not the case. I am suspicious when I see comments like tours. It makes me think you are likely a troll from a hair loss forum like the many UA-cam troll accounts used to push that industry. Those people are the real snake oil salesmen, not the hair loss doctors. The hair loss doctors actually improve people’s lives with scientifically backed therapies that WORK and have very few to no side effects for most people. Finasteride doesn’t block all the DHT in your body so you still have enough for the neural steroids as well. So most people won’t experience significant depression. Only a very small percentage of people who are already predisposed to depression will.
Stephen Hyland hi, thank you for your comments, I appreciate where you’re coming from. And I think your right, that is why I’m scared to take it as I am predisposed to depression and have a very pessimistic attitude and can’t help thinking that I will be the one who gets worse depression if I take finisteride! And yes the negative spin vested interest has spouted has worked on me and spoiled my chances of keeping my hair. I still can’t decide, my wife is all for it though... I actually bought it online and then cancelled my order and bought minoxidil, which buy the way I’m having imaginary side effects. Thanks again
@@kristoffernaslund9455 I took 0.5 mg of finasteride in total and have very serious side effects. I am on day 3 all i can hope is that it goes away and i recover. I read online it stays permanent for some people. Look up the site called propeciahelp and read the forums on how bad peoples life become mentally and sexually. I wish i didnt take it because i realize now that having a healthy functioning body is way more important than having hair. People who had no permanent serious side effects with it do recommend it bcs its good for stopping hair loss.
I've been on 1mg finasteride for about 10 years. I'm 34 years old. My hairline had receded a little bit and I wanted to ensure that I had a full head of hair going forward for cosmetic reasons. The men in my family don't get particularly bald, I'd say they have about the average hair-loss that you see in males. I'm just super into longevity in general. I had a testosterone blood test done last year and it came out as being out-of-range on the high side. 35.8 nmol/L (current reference range is 10.0-32.0). Converted to ng/dL that's 1031.7. So in terms of total testosterone I'm sitting pretty, especially for a 34 year old. Anyways, my erections have been weaker the last few years and thus I have been using viagra to make sex better (which works very well). I can still perform without it to a degree, but it's definitely not perfect and I have to make sure I get constant stimulation. As far as my libido goes, it's okay but every so often I go through spells of it being low. I should note that I'm pretty sexually active and have had many partners over the years which I believe has made me psychologically desiring sex less than someone who never gets any, lol. I came across some of these videos and I decided to stop taking finasteride to see if I'll feel any different. It's been literally 3 days and this morning I woke up with an erection. I haven't had morning wood in quite some time! It could just be a coincidence. I'll report back here over the weeks and months and see how I go.
A week in and I had another solid erection this morning. I swear I haven't had these in quite a long time. I'm going to stay off the finasteride for 1-3 months and continue to see what happens. The real test will be when I go back onto finasteride and if these side effects return or not as I'll definitely be restarting so as to keep my hair.
Really appreciate the long winded comment. I’ve been on the topical finasteride for the last three weeks and I’m normally very mentally healthy, but I’ve been fatigued, low energy, and borderline depressed the last two weeks. I am going to stop taking it for the next week or so to experiment as well. Keep us posted on your experience.
Took finasteride 1 mg per day for about 9 months, the morning erection disappeared for 4-5 months. Before taking finasteride, DHT was 740-800, аfter taking finasteride, about 300.
@@VictoRs107 Hello Denis, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. You're saying your morning erections disappeared for the last 4-5 months of the total 9 months you were on finasteride?
People who haven't experienced PFS themselves will be mostly in denial (telling it's only in people's heads, nocebo etc.) until it's too late unfortunately. This cycle will continue for years to come.
@@sinanengin5756 I do, my sex drive is gone. It's only physical stimulation which keeps me working, mental one is not possible anymore. Some connection in my brain has shut down. Thinking about sex has no physical reaction. There is no reason to assume I had any preconditions or environmental effects because my shut down took place overnight and I was always in good shape before taking 0,5mg for 7 months. People just tend to look for excuses so they can take the drug and tell themselves it cannot happen and everyone who tells otherwise is delusional. But once it happens there is no return to normal and you will regret that day when you decided to take it for the rest of your life and damn yourself for calling it fearmongering. You wish yourself badly back to the point when the decision was still to be made. If it is on you yet, don't take it. Not even a small dosage. Don't look for excuses and talk yourself into the "I'll be fine" mindset - you don't know. Balding is not that bad. It's not even a point of thought for me anymore after realizing what I've lost.
@@SS-hj4sf I'm doing ok so far thanks. Sexual symptoms are ok. Can't wait to get back to the gym and work out, it helps. But I get really depressed over how little there is I can do.. On some days I would rather die than keep on struggling so hard just for little improvements.
@@MrCaradras bro you can try water fasting It really works And I want to say keep yourself or try yourself as happy as possible because in happiness every other suffering becomes less or disappears Search sadhguru on UA-cam try giving yourself to yoga and spirituality you can also come to India learn spirituality it will definitely going to work brother
Can you make a Episode about topical Finasteride? There are soooo many channels on UA-cam discussing Differenz ingredients and pointing on different Studies for the right solution and dosage
I started it and already seeing results but from all experiences I've heard from people it goes systemic after a while like the oral version and that usually leads to side effects long term.
Have you guys ever spoken about how delayed onset symptoms work for dutasteride? Dutasteride has a much longer half like compared to finasteride, 6-8 hours for the latter and about a month for the former, so a 120 times difference. If it takes 3 months to begin experiencing recovery for fin would you have to wait 120 times as long for dutasteride (30 years!)?
I listened to this video and decided to take finasteride. Took 4 doses and got side effects like ED so I stopped. That was 8 weeks ago. My side effects have worsened since then. Zero libido, ed, gyno, sleeplessness, anxiety, frequent urination. Please don't be fooled into thinking PFS is not real. I thought that way and now I'm certain I have it and its ruining my life. Its not.worth it,even if it only affects a minority.
My testicles have shrunk by about 33 percent. That is not a nocebo. That is a nightmare. I have no reason to make this up except to serve as a warning. PFS is real. It happens to a minority of people but its still very real.
@@primordialking5444 Yes. And that was all it took. I began to get minor ED and after stopping the symptoms got much worse. 3 months later and no improvement.
Yes and it does more things than just blocking Dht,and dermatologist don't even know,but then if you get affected they left you on your own....its criminal.
Guys I took this pill on Wednesday after hearing these guys speak and then again on Friday its now Saturday night and I cannot sleep whatsoever. My body has a very weird feeling and I have ED and I hope and pray to God that my symptoms will go away as suggested by these two doctors
@@TruthsSake I have read some stories of people in and around the same age as me (late 20s) and it can happen with a few pills. What happened to me I now know was an anxiety attack which over the past week I now know how to better handle but also now these past two days I also have insomnia whereby I haven't slept for the past two days and sleep was never an issue with myself. Like I said I'm very much hoping that like Dr Knudsen has said the side effects do subside and eventually leave I have had instances where I feel I am getting better mainly with the ED where my erections are gradually getting stronger and lasting longer and have been told there's been instances of users taking similar amounts of the drug to myself recovering from anywhere between a week to 3 months...
Calm down you don’t have ED 🙄 if someone told you that a pill had potential to give you limp dick, that’s all you’d think about. Erections are 90% mental.
if you are worried, take a shot of testosterone, that will reset your hormones, if you still have issues look at my recovery program at www.5arinhibitorhelp.com/
You make a good point about 5mg and 50 year old men not complaining about PFS (Post Finasteride Syndrome) but don't 50+ year old men with prostate issues (so bad to the point they need to take 5mg of Finasteride) have ED anyway? And they probably need to take that medication for the rest of their lives, or at least until prostate surgery which causes ED as well, so how would you ever know if a 50 year old taking 5mg would suffer from PFS? Curious even aside from PFS, do 50 year old men taking 5mg for prostate mention ED much?
take tamoxifen, it will reverse the effect but may also reverse the result of your hair growth, maybe take tamoxifen in conjunction with finesteride to lessen the symptoms
To be more specific I’m a male experiencing sexual side effects. It’s been about a week since I stopped taking finasteride and my condition hasn’t improved. Should I be worried?
@@coltensteinbrecher1552 okay, take 1 scoop of whey protein everyday to gain back some libido, as well as do high intensity interval training. Preferably take the whey protein after exercise
I only was on Finasteride for 2 months, and here I am over a year later, and I still feel like it partially affected my memory. I used to be great at remembering things, and now I struggle remembering things I just looked at.
@Justin Susini I switched to Rogaine foam and Lipogaine (both of which I highly recommend) but I think a little bit of my sex drive is gone now. However, I'm grateful I got off the drug when I did. I can't believe how insane the side effects of that drug were. It was like living in a dream 24/7
I feel you bro. You're not alone. Thanks for speaking up, more of us need to speak up. Imagine your family, kids, friends will still be taking this drug years from now if men remain too embarassed to speak up.
@@macetini Give it 3 months. I'm a fellow victim and over the past few years I've had to become quite knowledgeable on the topic. My best piece of advice for anyone with mental side effects: you'll only know your situation after 3 months, and meanwhile you need to give your brain a chance to recover and not make things worse. So for 3 months, do not allow yourself to read or even think about this, distract yourself e.g. nature, going into work rather than homeoffice. Learn to meditate. Pick up physical exercise. It's important to give your brain a chance to recover by not thinking about this. It will affect your future trajectory. Trust me on this. After 3 months (April 15), assess. But not beforehand. Until then, resolve that even if things don't improve, you're going to live a kickass life. If I can do it, so can you.
@@Concojone5 Tnx man, it gives me hope. I feel like I'm losing my mind. I can't believe that just 3 pills can do something like this. It has been 5 weeks and I still can't sleep more than a few hours per night.
HELP! I started taking finasteride about 11 days ago. I followed Dr Russell's advice and consumed one 1mg tablet every second day. Now after 11 days I got side affect Erectile dysfunction, only taken 6 pills so far and I've stopped taking them. Im panicking, please advise me what to do?
Stop taking it immediately. To keep your hair, your head needs to be suffused with blood twice a day to regrow hair capillaries and stop further hair loss. Lie on your back on your bed and let your head dangle off. Your head with fill with blood, feeding hair follicles. IT WORKS.
@@abhisheksingh-qx2hc yes once I stopped. It toke a week for symptoms to improve. For a week I didn't sleep at night. Was really bad. If you see any side effects please stop immediately.
What i dont understand is how some people don't recover from sexual side effects caused by propecia. In some countries, chemical castration is used on rapers, and even that isnt permanent (6 to 12 months recovery time)
@Hooaah It is well known that it can cause permanent erectile dysfuntion. Many people do avoid the drug because they are scared but many try it out because they are very insecure so they take anything to stop baldness even if its risky or they think its extremely safe so they take it. And many people who use it report no side effects but some people have serious side effects who are permanent. Its not just erectile dysfunction there are many different side effects. Sexual and mental. I dont have erectile dysfunction but i got other sides. The worst one is not feeling my penis well.
These clowns peddling this poison crap drug need to know this. I hope you or his family can get in contact with these ignorant doctors so they know. It was a doctor exactly like the ones in this video who convinced me this drug was perfectly safe which destroyed my health and turned my life upside down. I’m sorry about your friend.
Can any of you gentleman who are both doctors explain why would some people have these side effects and others not? Besides sensitivity what is being suppressed in those peoples chemistry that is causing this situation? Thank you.
There are many potential side effects for every single medication, see the information leaflet inside for a really long list. Everyone just reacts differently to medicine, we don't know why.
There are a lot of possibilities, according to depressions and other mental problems. We often forget, that 5ar2 is not only there to convert T to DHT, it is also there to metabolise Progesterone. If you lack of 5ar 1 or 2, or too low Progesterone levels, it will crush down the Allopregnanolone and Cortisol levels in your system. These neurosteroids are mandatory for mental health.
This is causing liver disease. Increased Prolactine, and Estrogen due to suppression of DHT. 2% andractim and Mesterolone half tablet per day for 2 months with monitoring HDL could resolve the issue...
I have just fallen into this second group. I did not notice symptoms right away but I may not have been conscious of them. About 8-9 months after staring I developed the most severe sexual side affects. I was taking 4-5 a week. I have not cut to 1to 1.5 a week and still experiencing. Going to get completely off now for the next couple months
The question is whether lowering a very potent sexual hormone by 2/3 does not have a significant impact on the organism in every case. If you on the other hand asked people whether they would sacrifice hair for increasing a libido-enhancing hormone by factor 3, I assume the majority would answer with yes.
Im pretty sure they wouldn't sacrifice hair for that hormone. Why ? Hair is like a huge factor in appearance, which is the first thing that the females notice. If you make no impressions leading to dating and or sexual experiences you won't need the libido increasing hormone!
If she rejects on very first sight even if that is subconscious, have fun with your libido alone. Good luck filling holes outside your home, but hey you can fill all the holes in your house with your own divine protein shake lmao.
You're right, I wish I had accepted this before trying finasteride. But I was too keen on saving my hair... My life could have turned out very different had I not taken the risk.
Please talk about the risk of developing type 2 diabetes mellitus that is associated with long-term use of finasteride! People need to know about this.
@@Retotion My lifestyle has always been exemplary, I'm thin but athletic, I've always hiked, I live close to nature, and yes my father is diabetic, however something needs to trigger it, and I strongly believe that 1mg daily oral finasteride for almost 20 years has contributed to this.
People should take note of who is delivering this information (people who profit from you taking Finasteride). Main point: do your research and don't make a decision based of this video alone. Also, at 7:45 timestamp - well obviously........ you're saying there are more people who experience ED etc. without finasteride vs. people who experience ED etc. with finasteride. That's because the sample size of people not on finasteride is immensely larger. What a silly statement to make. And the final statement you make "this is a very specific group of people who experience this problem" makes it sound like you know who those people are. If there was a way to know, this wouldn't even be a discussion. It terms of susceptibility to side-effects, it's not a specific group, it's an unknown group. Small yes, but unknown.
How are they profiting from promoting finasteride? It's the complete opposite if you wanna make that argument. By not promoting finasteride which is actually effective, they'd be making more money on transplants and other useless treatments
@@akalion213 Because you can't do a hair transplant without finasteride, silly. (Well you can but it would look horrible after a few years when the other hair is gone)
Your first point is excellent. I made the mistake of listening to a hair specialist, where as the real specialist is ... a doctor specializing in postfinasteride syndrome. They are the authority on the matter.
@@Concojone5 Wait you're literally just contradicting yourself. They're giving you medication that will prevent you from coming back and getting more hair transplants... Did you even think this through for five seconds?
Exactly, this wasn’t even a thing until 2011, 30 years after it came out, and as soon as people realized they could sue Merck all of a sudden everyone had “Post finasteride syndrome.”
@@respectfulyoungmen2141you want people to tell proudly that they have a dead penis? Have you ever thought that just maybe people were afraid to speak up all these years?
Hello. I would like to know if you do any blood test before proscribing Finasteride. Like determining the hormone levels to see if you're more likely to experience side effects. Love the show. Thank you
@@TheHairLossShow Im sorry for taking your time, im feeling extremelly tired now that i stopped taking finasteride. I used for years. Should i start taking it again?
Just found this channel as I'm considering FUE and have started doing some research. Looking through the video list, this one grabbed my attention. I've been on Fin for I'd say about 15years. Prior to this I tried saw palmetto, but had undesired side effects, then tried topical minoxidil but after a while i started getting rashes. So I was recommended finasteride. 1mg a day. Hasn't reversed hair loss, just held onto what I have. No one ever told me that it builds up in your system, or that a lower dose would be ok. No ED, but as a 50+ yr old, I put an increasing reduction in libido down to reduction in testosterone. I'm very interested to learn more about PFS after seeing the video. I'm probably one of the lucky ones if I didn't get any clear side effects within months of starting.
It's hard to recognize the side effects. If you'd like to learn more about PFS, see the website of the postfinasteride foundation, and the propeciahelp forums. Don't be put off by the panicky posts, just look for the facts.
These guys cannot be impartial. It is in their interest to make these young men look crazy. Taking this drug just cannot be a good idea at least until proper studies are done
You guys are great!!! I'm taking finasteride for a large prostate at low doses and have had major anxiety about it. I'm 6 weeks in and no side effects (yet) but plan to do 6 months on and 3 months off and back at a lower does. 👍
I got a good flow back very quickly, and now I've reduced the Finn even more.. I'll stick with it for a few more months, then take the rest of the year off. Then see how quickly symptoms come back.. less is more if you know what I mean. 🤞
@@MrGenoboss A lot of people had already begun using it for it's off-label ability to stop hairloss by 1998 iirc, similar to how people use ru58841 for hair treatment.
Can't speak for anyone but myself, but 9 months on finasteride 1 mg per day with zero side effects. I asked my doctor before starting and he said he never had a patient complain about a side effect from finasteride.
Is your doctor a dermatologist, by any chance? Hair loss doctors have every reason to dismiss the side effects that people experience. So why would people bother to tell them about the side effects if they'll just be told it's all in their heads? The people with side effects eventually seek out other doctors. Talk to a urologist or a psychiatrist, and you'll probably get a different story.
I start taking fin the last week and i have side effect like erectile dysfunction , im afraid now i stop it plz how much time to recover from the side effects?
@@EmadGholami-dp4rc no i swear i have avery nasty side effects ,pain in the chest and low libido, ed.... Im now afraid that this fucking side effects stays with me all the time, fuck hair ,i wana my libido back again
I am 24, last time I had an urge for masturbation was around january 11th, 2019... My life is ruined and will prob never be same. Just the matter of time I will quit..
@@MARCELpurger May I suggest you seek out the help of an endocrinologist as well as a mental health counselor? Fin may have given you the initial ED, but it's continuous presence may be a result of the trauma of that experience causing psychological issues + the possible exacerbation via hormonal offsets.
Ty for advices... I had everything. Libido is everything.... No money can buy it.. I would sacrafise everything for it. Even being horny on book or wood just to have that feeling of being a man..
Hello doctors, I have a finasteride question that has not been addressed: what happens when the 5mg is cut in advance? Does the medication deteriorate over time if cut into quarters? My pharmacist gave me the 5mg pills but actually pre-cut 100 pills into quarters. Is that okay? I heard that this may risk the medication losing its potency if pre-cut so far in advance. If someone could please respond, I would greatly appreciate this as I am losing my hair quite fast.
I don't fully know the answer to that. If I prescribe the 5mg tab to patients, I get them to cut it up themselves, 1 tab per week. I couldn't tell you what the effect of pre-cutting them would be. Also, with that amount, you would have over a year supply which I suspect would be beyond the expiry date. But cutting the tablets is fine in principle.
Hi mate, my doc prescribed 5mg to cut into quarters for prostate not hair and said it will be fine, I just cut one pill and use it till I need to cut another.
The million dolar question.. is this reversible? Or at least some treatment? I read that some patiens recieve arimidex + tamoxifen or clomid, my doctor only agreed to give me tamoxifen but it didnt do too much, ibwant to try with anastrozol too
If you still have it after 3-6 months, it's not reversible, unfortunately. PFS is a lifelong condition with no known cure. At Propeciahelp, you'll find a few thousand victims experimenting with (often dangerous) solutions but it seems almost nobody fixed their problem, many made their condition much worse. However, there are ways to relieve symptoms in (some) patients including hormone replacement therapy and viagra. I hope you get better or find a way to cope with it. Report your case.
@@alexandrustefan1815 This is revolting. Think of all the people who died young or were given a life sentence because of finasteride. If you think PFS is fictional, read some of the comments left behind by victims on this page. There are 100+ doctors worldwide specializing in this condition. Warnings of this condition are now on the medication leaflets. Do you think it's fun for us to be on this page and be confronted with our fate? We only do it to save others.
@@Concojone5 If you actually would use some numbers and some studies you wouldn't seem some desperate. As we all know for a drug to be FDA approved it needs to have a safety test done, a long term study. Officially, finasteride is causing side effects in 2-4% of the people who take it and those go away after are being discontinued(I'm pretty sure I don't have to put link for this... those, or even lower numbers are pretty much in every fin study), which is very safe to me. Have you ever wondered why "Pfs" was not a thing before 2011 even if this drug came out in 1998?
Maybe I didn’t hear right but it sounds like they didn’t give any credence to permanent androgenic neutering? Even if they have no experience with such a case they could have at least given some hypotheticals as to how / why that may occur even after several months without finasteride
I used finasteride (Proscar) for 20 years with excellent results (today I'm 43 y.o., still NW2) but a month ago it stopped working and I was shedding like crazy. I'm now taking Avodart daily, shedding stopped and hair is looking much thicker and healthier.
Flavio Sousa There isn’t any significant difference in the two in terms of effectiveness. The new drug you are on just suppressed a bit more DHT and also T. You probably were more sensitive to the androgens than most men are and that’s why. One can also add RU onto their hair while taking finasteride if they don’t want to nuke their T levels with a drug like Avodart.
I took finasteride 12-06-21 through 1-28-22, 3 times per week. I developed side effects, anxiety, loss of libido, some ED. I feel like the side effects are actually worse at the moment (2-11-22) then they were while i was using it. So if i understand you correctly, it takes at least 3 months for finasteride to wash out of your system? So i should expect that these symptoms linger for another 2.5 months? Also, i did not have these symptoms prior to treatment. Its been extremely stressful on me and my wife, and I'm hoping this goes away very soon.
@@ohayo ive been doing better, but not 100%. Anxiety has been a lot lower but still there occasionally. Libido is coming back, slowly. Ed has been a lot better, but i still have occasional times of going soft suring sex, but then i am able to get it back. I think it might be anxiety related. Ive been having a lot more frequent and reliable erections more recently. I did have my Testosterone checked, and it was on the low side (400 total) but not horrible. I have a pretty high lean muscle mass and workout regularly, so this seems low. Supposed to get it checked again in a month.
@@akalion213 i was aware of some of them. But after seeing and reading most medical professionals experience with the side effects, it sounded very rare, and i thought it was probably only guys with a tendency towards high estrogen/low testosterone to begin with. Ive never had a bad reaction to any other prescriptions, plus i am in really good shape and have all the physical signs of high T levels (muscular, lean, broad shoulders, defined jawline, high libido) and i had diffuse thinning, so i thought i would be a perfect candidate for this. The only side effects i was really worried about was gyno and maybe ED, but moreso gyno. I never even got a hint of gyno. I thought my libido was ironclad since it was so high before (i thought, how can you NOT be in the mood?). I actually figured it would do me some good to knock it down a bit. But i never thought it would go away completely. Also, i didnt know about the anxiety side effect and got that pretty bad, although that has gotten a lot better. To update, the last few days have actually been really good. My libido has actually came back, not super strong, but enough that i felt as normal as ive felt since December. I felt good yesterday and today so far. I think MAYBE I'm starting to get to the tail end of this?
Given Finasteride halts or reverses the balding process through the inhibition of 5a reductase (isoenzymes 2 & 3) which is responsible for masculinisation during puberty and reproductive/muscular/cognitive efficiency in adulthood, is it fair to say that it is a mild form of chemical castration? It seems to me that the potential risks of side effects of lasting feminisation far outweigh the benefit of keeping your hair.
How did you jump from one point, too linking finasteride to a mild form of chemical castration? The drug blocks the breakdown of the hormone by blocking the enzyme, the hormone doesn’t disappear, it’ll just be broken down through other means in the body? Chemical castration is a method of removing a mans ability to impregnate a woman, the comparison is surely you would agree, a very harsh one? A man losing his hair could be something as easy as accepting it and shaving it all of one night, or for some men a complete disaster, which rightfully or wrongly completely controls their life
@@traceurGeorge I think 'castration' in this case is loosely used. It's besides the point. It's about the potential side-effects of finasteride. You're right though, it's a bigger deal for some than others.
@@ShaneBoy My acne on back and even scalp went crazy when I started fin, i’ve stopped for 6 weeks now and it’s all Cleared but I’m Still getting breakouts on chin/ it’s messed with my hormones. Would a blood test help/ how do I get things back to normal in regards to hormones? Cheers
@@jakirohiro1960 1mg daily for 3 months then stopped Resumed 1mg 3 times a week but got same sides so quit It was giving me hormonal acne around mouth, on upper back which I’ve never ever had and on scalp too which I don’t usually get.
It is so sad that I am suffering for this syndrome that i am very sure of it. I am waiting for a cure but it is far to find it due it is still not proof from science
I have post finasteride syndrome after only taking finasteride for 3 weeks. Just give it time, exercise, eat right, and you will recover. I won't happen overnight and it may take 1-3 months to feel like yourself again. I'm dealing with brain fog and low libido atm after a month off the drug, but I do feel some improvement.
Ysaac Rodriguez I’m not exactly sure, but not eating right I know for sure can cause brain fog, along with not getting sleep and other stuff. For low libido being active is what boosts your testosterone.
Mustafa Naser I took 1mg per day, but now after 6 weeks off the drug my brain fog has lessened, and my libido has increased, almost like normal. I will update in a month on my recovery.
I can imagine if you begin taking Finasteride before the age that you have absolutely an unequivocally completed the transition through puberty and then stop taking it that there would be some undesirable challenges?
Is it possible that there weren't complaints previously with men treating their prostates simply because men in that age range "expect" to not feel like balls of fire sexually, physically, or even in terms of mental acuity? Maybe if they were affected, it was just chalked up to just "life." Whereas when a younger man's life is diminished in those areas, the difference is much more stark and noticeable.
You hit the nail on the head. And I don't understand why hair surgeons keep denying postfinasteride syndrome, when all other doctors are starting to acknowledge it and when even the official labeling/packaging is now warning about it. We go to them for advice because they are supposed to know, and we end up with this terrible condition while they just keep saying how great finasteride is without even questioning themselves. “It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it."
There have been complaints going way back to the beginning. These two just decided not to do a simple Google search prior to putting out this video full of misinformation. Some "doctors" huh?
It is serious, I stopped it and everything returned, including slow thinning of hair, but now hair is still thinning but so iare my genitals. I can't sleep, I can't 'get up,' I can't really go on. Fuckers. Where can I get help?
I have been taking Finasteride for 2 Years . I didn't notice any side effects until now. It's been 2 months since I'm having premature ejaculation something I never never had . Do you think if I stop taking Finasteride this issue will go away ? How long does the effect of the Finasteride blocks the hormone ?
Did you get an answer? I've been taking it for 2 years as well and had to stop a week ago cause of ed and low libido. Its been a week and things have improved but only slightly. I feel like crap. How about you?
Premature Ejaculation is certainly not on the list bro! 3 months have passed. How have you been? If you're still struggling I would start by checking other aspects of your life. Did you start dating someone new? Do you experience any kind of anxiety related to your performance?
@@ErsanYolcu Impotence, numbness of penis, no pleasure during orgasm, loss of libido.Among them, the most difficult thing for me is sexual desire and orgasm.
Using the drug for 2 years now, and I don't have any single side effect. Is it normal? One thing that I only noticed is my enlarged breast, which I think came with my recent weight gain possibly. Other than that, my libido is the same as a 17 y/o teen. Also have not loose any hair for years. I am really thinking to take finasteride for the long term but seeing so many complaints and so less research done makes me think.
@@dennybrockmann9005still the same. Still using it and my hair has not changed. It is not very thick, especially in my crown area (it never was tbh), but I am not losing further either.
do you want to clarify more interaction between DHT and beard growth or DHT blocker and beard growth? does finasteride affect your beard growth? Thankyou!
Yes it does, i have been taking Fin for 4 months no side effects but my beard growth seems to be stopped since then (my velus hair in small spots won't become thicker) so i used Minoxidil and my velus hairs are almost turning into terminal hair. At the end i have to say not everyone would get bad effect from finasteride for their beard , but scientifically it does because DHT has a big role for developing body and face hair
@@TheRon3600 ik but like i said it depends on individual for some people that reduction is not a problem for their beard growth while for some others is enough to make your beard thinner
@@Namanop77 My best advice, that was also given to me by people who know, is to stop reading or thinking about finasteride for the next 3 months (May 1). After that, you can do whatever you like. But right now, your job is to break the downward spiral because it can determine what your final mental condition will be. No browsing or even thinking related to this topic, just look up how to control anxiety, spend your time in nature or in some other "good" place, learn to meditate (!). If you want to do more, pick up physical exercise. From what I read you are improving extremely well compared to the typical victim, and you have virtually no finasteride in your system, so don't fuck it up now.
@@Namanop77 It's scary to go through this, I know, but it's normal. Expect slow progress. Accept it may not fully resolve, give it 3 months using the techniques I mentioned above, and you'll know. Only then assess and see if you need to seek mental help (people have success doing that). Meanwhile, if at any point, you have suicidal thoughts, seek professional help. Let's talk again in 3 months. Stop the panic spiral and trust the process. Pause the minoxidil for now. If others can do this, so can you. You're a hero.
@@Namanop77 I'm not a doctor, just a fellow victim who has heard/researched around a thousand stories, enough to have a good idea of the range of possibilities. I'm pretty sure you'll improve given your low dose, but let's be humble here. Typically there is partial or complete recovery, often slow, without medical help, and if you're not happy where you are in 3 months, medical help usually improves things (mental symptoms) from there. But let's not assume a bad outcome right now, let's give you 3 months of mental peace first. You'll be in a better place by then, I promise. Please take my earlier advice. I know it sucks, but you're a hero. We're heroes. Be grateful you quit in time, and took a tiny dose. I wish I had been that smart. The next step is to make the best our of your situation. You'll have to be hero. P.S. yes it's FDA-approved, but what you're experiencing is a side effect mentioned on the label in most countries around the world. They'll take finasteride off the market, but it will take some time because the medical world is just beginning to grasp the risks of finasteride. It will go like Vioxx and all other FDA-aproved drugs that were later pulled off the market. It is not unusual for medications to have permanent side effects, certain antidepressants are known for this, through a similar action as finasteride, so read up on this if you ever get prescribed one in your life)
Do you guys know anything about a finasteride-induced sex drive increase causing a limitation on its effect for stopping hair loss? I’m getting complete opposite reaction to finasteride than everything I’ve been told to expect. But my hair hasn’t changed after two months. No shedding; no regrowth; no thickening of existing hair.
definately takes time, some are not great responders but it still takes longer than only 2 month. I noticed thickening of my hair on month 3 and ne hair growth on month 4, You can always implement minoxodil and microneedling if you want.
I'm 22 I started fin a couple of weeks ago and I feel very weird on it. And I know how to listen to my body when something's up I got super brain fog and very weak and tired.. I'm frustrated beacuse I need to do somthing about my hair and dont know what to do. I'm currently doing the rogan for last almost 6 months with very good results till about halfway threw i got really bad chest pain and palpitations. I realized I was applying to a wet head and should apply to a dry head. I now apply a lot less on a dry head . The chest pain went away but still have palpitations. I need some help were I should go from here:/
Same stuff but a lot less noticable still get palpitations sometimes but not as noticeable as it was. I have to take half a pill of fin at night to elude the brain fog and tierdness during the day. But otherwise doing good hitting the weights staying active eating the right food.
@@Namanop77 I also had testicle pain and did the mistake to go on, got gynecomastia and my testicles shrinked. I stopped finasteride since 8 months and my testicles are still smaller than pre-finasteride, mild gynecomastia is also still there.
I'm starting it soon. Just wondering if taking one 1mg every other day instead of everyday woukd still be effective and keeping the side effects lower. I plan to do that and see what happens
I hv been on Finasteride 0.5mg 3times/week for almost 3 months now. So far I m not seeing any side effects from such a dosage and frequency, and my hair is quite obviously not falling as much. But I haven’t yet noticed any thickening among my existing hairs, guess I will give it more time.
@@siokeongng3479 good to hear, so that's the dose I'm starting out at, took it twice already at 0.5mg 3 times a week and so far so good with no side effects. Maybe u should consider increasing your dose to 1mg three times a week.
After stopping the medication, how long does it take for me to feel completely normal again. Currently experiencing some dizziness, anxiety, depression, and just generally not feeling like myself. I've only taken it for 3.5 weeks going down in dosage each week bc of the side effects and it's been 5 full days since stopping. Many thanks.
@@hiraeth195 I got covid shortly after and still recovering from that. So there's just a lot of overlap between what could be from fin or covid. I felt arguably even worse for like 1.5 weeks after getting the positive test result. But currently I am feeling relatively better. But still not 100%. Most of my symptoms are the same to a much lesser degree. The anxiety and depression is prob only from the fact that I'm losing my fair at only 23 yo, and not due to some brain change by fin. I still feel dizzy / imbalanced here and there, but nothing too crazy. I notice I'm worse in the morning right after waking up. Planning on seeing some docs once im negative for covid to sort things out.
@@MIKEYW978 it's been 5 months since I first noticed the side effect back in December 2021. I stopped taking the medication around 3 weeks in which is actually right around the time I got covid. My brain fog during that time felt like it changed? Hard to describe. It's entirely possible that my fog from fin changed to fog from covid. So from Jan to I'd say end of March I'd been having that sensation. It wasnt until April that I felt it subside. Currently I think most of it has gone away.
Took Finasteride for 8 months, developed severe insomnia while taking it - tried to taper off slowly and felt better initially. But then once I fully stopped about a week later I had the dreaded crash and since then my life has changed dramatically for the worse. I have severe insomnia and cognitive side effects - can't work anymore because of it and basically lost all desire and fun in any social interaction due to my constant exhaustion. I don't say everyone who takes Finasteride develops PFS - most people don't but for the one's who do it has life altering consequences. That is why more research needs to be conducted to establish who can take Finasteride safely and how PFS patients can be treated. That is just what everyone needs to acknowledge - there few dramatically few studies out there and more COI-free research has to be conducted. For example, what the hair loss surgeons in this video claim is the reason that same people have lasting side effects (about Finasteride building up in the body) has just no scientific backup - it is an explanation they have created out of thin air. So please be aware of all that before you start take Finasteride. (Btw, it seems like most people are focusing on sexual sides - yes they exist but for example I don't suffer from them. Nevertheless PFS has destroyed my life for the last six months and I didn't notice that my restlessness and insomnia stem from Finasteride and not from stress at work until it was too late)
This is exactly my story. I am sorry for you as I am sorry for myself. This never ending total insomnia is the worst torture possible. And it doesn't go away. I checked my morning cortisole level once, it was way too high. Without the help of an opiate (Tramadol),which sedates me and allows me to sleep at night, I would have gone mad. But the price for sleep is addiction but I know how to taper it slowly down to Zero. I have no choice. But I don't recommend it to anyone taking Tramadol for sleep, although it's very reliable in terms of maintaining sleep. But the next morning you will always feel like death. I took everything in order to get sleep. I don't recommend the following meds for PFS insomnia either. Mirtazapine Trazodone Zopiclone Benzodiazepines Seroquel Tavor Zolpidem Doxepine Melatonine All these meds lose their effect after a few days and I feel very bad under them. PFS insomnia came to stay, so you need to battle the root cause (allopregnalone missing, obviously). Go to an endocrinologist asap. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your story. Have you checked all ur hormones levels? If ur testosterone level is low and ur dht is crashed alone with the other hormones you will have similar side effects that you mentioned.
Thanks for your replies - my hormone levels are all over the place and currently there is no known treatment or cure for PFS! More research needs to be conducted
I rather go bald than messing with hormonal activity that takes place in the body because to be honest nobody really understand all this add up and what prolong effects are there. I’m more worried of what’s in the head rather than what’s on it.
Instead of hearing suffering you guys are doing excellent ignoring them. PFS is a state of your hormones going shit due to your drug and a person suffering from depression or bad mental condition
cheated by doctor It’s because all those people “suffering” don’t exist. Most of them are fake accounts and trolls from hair loss forums funded by snake oil hair loss product companies that don’t work and that pay for add revenue on these forums. The forum owners also have ads from lawyers looking for lawsuits. I’ll repeat what I said in another comment: There are also people on hair loss forums with vested interests. They suck in gullible people into their forums to make money off ad revenue of lawyers looking for lawsuits of gullible victims with imaginary conditions like post finasteride syndrome that are all in their head, and from snake oil hair loss companies who put ads on their and sell products that don’t work. There is an entire online industry centered about these snake oils salesmen. They flood finasteride UA-cam videos to crate the imagine that many people have the imaginary post finasteride syndrome to sway them from using the drug and signing up for membership their forums and buying their useless products (which also often have side effects). Mathematically, it’s impossible for that many people to have such side effects because 1) the well researched studies with good sample sizes and years of follow ups don’t show it and 2) the patients of hair loss doctors experiencing side effects are not higher than in the studies. If the studies were wrong, the patients would be experiencing it and finasteride would not be used by millions of people around the world, making it one of the most popular drugs. If something as severe as ED was or deep depression was experienced in a large percentage of people taking the drug, it would NOT be used consistently by millions of people around the world for years and decades. Many people will put up with minor side effects, but they would NOT put up with severe side effects like ED or imaginary post finasteride syndrome or very deep depression. Most people would drop the drug if they were the case. But it’s not the case. I am suspicious when I see comments like tours. It makes me think you are likely a troll from a hair loss forum like the many UA-cam troll accounts used to push that industry. Those people are the real snake oil salesmen, not the hair loss doctors. The hair loss doctors actually improve people’s lives with scientifically backed therapies that WORK and have very few to no side effects for most people. Finasteride doesn’t block all the DHT in your body so you still have enough for the neural steroids as well. So most people won’t experience significant depression. Only a very small percentage of people who are already predisposed to depression will. Most of the people making these claims of side effects are likely hair loss forum trolls. A small number of them are people who already had very bad health issues before taking he drug and they are blaming the drug. Simple as that.
@@TruthsSake you sure it's not the vested interests of doctors to say nothing but mostly good things about finasteride because they're making BILLIONS of it?
So glad I found you doctors. I have started taken them this week and had a slight headache and then it went away and that was it. I can now go to your videos and debunk all the junk on UA-cam talking about finasteride and minoxidil and get the real truth.
@@terrancegamble8487 how you getting on now? I'm in situation as you. Some of these comments make it sound like you take one pill and you may as well jump in front of a moving train
@@Sean-ig6wf Everything is fine. The doctors spoke the truth about the finasteride and minoxidil. I didn't have any side effects or none of the claims some people were having. I didn't use the minoxidil once a day and have seen growth. It's a slow process, but I'm sticking with it.
Finasteride Decrease his overall prostate cancer BUT should one get prostate cancer while on finasteride, these cancers tend to be more aggressive and higher grade.
I really hope this is all just bullshit; I'm absolutely terrified. Nothing in my life has changed for the worse, the only difference was taking dutasteride. After a while, my libido, drive and function down below disappeared, and I've gotten really bad depression, anxiety, lethargy, fatigue, insomnia, muscle weakness and the likes. I've had full panels of blood work done, and everything always comes back great, and my doctor and I haven't been able to find anything else that may be causing these issues. I used to be really happy, and have constant and great energy all day and would sleep great; but now, I'm honestly an often fatigued and emotionless shell. I discontinued dutasteride, and only time will tell if these symptoms persist after it's cleared out of my system. I supposed I'll give it 6 months before I call anything.
Guys, I just took 6 pills in oct 2020 and had panic attack so I quit taking pills. But still after 4 months having anxiety/panic attacks every day. If anyone experiencing same? Does it go away? Please help me. Please note I do not have any sexual side effects.
The problem with most studies is it doesn't show how side effects could be caused by other markers or environmental effects. I've been taking finasteride for 10 years, and about a year back I started feeling really depressed. My doc said he thinks I should stop the medication, and I asked before that, could I have a full panel of bloodwork done just to see if something else is causing it. Turns out I had extremely low levels of vitamin D. I started supplementing and getting outside more and now I feel great. Correlation does not always equal causation.
Thank you , my finasteride has been collecting dust because I’ve been terrified but this definitely helps a lot.
@@chideraagugo517 me too lol.
@@chideraagugo517 did you take it now?
do you really take it for 10 years and no side effect?
How fast does your hair grow
This is what happened to me. I was taking 1mg per day as that is what I was told to take. First 3 months I didn’t notice a single side effect. I thought this is great. I’ll get a hair transplant carry on taking this. Anyway, month 4 I had a complete breakdown. Now just to be clear on this, I have never been depressed in my life. Never suffered from anxiety either. Month 4 on 1mg per day. I started noticing I would get disturbed sleep every night. Thought nothing of it. Within the space of 2 weeks I completely broke down. Felt depressed as hell. Had to take myself out of work and just starting to feel a bit better now a week off the tablet. There is no question it is the tablet because I was on nothing else and I’m absolutely gutted that it is the tablet as I don’t want anymore hair falling out. After finding this video tho I will take your advice. I will leave it for a month then try lower dosage and hopefully without side effects. Thanks
Edit: just an update to this and I feel very embarrassed saying this but I did in fact get a hair transplant and went back to 1mg per day and I have had absolutely no side effects at all. I don’t know why I initially had them but I’ve been on finesterade for probably 18 months now and I’ve had zero effects. Yeah so there you go, sorry if I put people off and I questioned whether I should put this but you have to be honest. Cheers
I took a lower dose and guess where it got me. Read all my comments on this page.
Have u fully recovered from finasteride ?
@@Gnarles13 yeah I feel completely myself now. I never went back to the tablet
@@Gnarles13 I never recovered.
@@Concojone5 what's your condition now
It's ironic how a pro-finasteride video became a collection of hundreds of testimonies of how finasteride ruined their life, and links to studies. Respect to The Hair Loss Show for not taking down this page and letting real people talk about their experience.
Idk how i landed on this video, but is hair really worth it in middle age men.. i mean some side effects are suicidal thoughts, increased anxiety and depression? males have a high suicide count.. Not to mention the potential brain fog.. that is enough for me to just go bald and embrace it if that day ever comes.
balding also increasing anxiety and depression especially in middle age men. Esp in the social media era. So we need to be 100% sure if its nocebo or actual side.
1yr taking finasteride, I started experiencing inability to climax & ejaculation problems, stopped it & weeks later I was fine.
Have u recovered?
have you gone back on it? have you tried lowering your dose?
@@fuadismayilzada1816 "weeks later I was fine"... sounds like it.
Videos like this are what pushes me over the edge into taking finasteride. I now have post finasteride syndrome at the age of 21 consisting of severe genital anesthesia and much reduced orgasm quality. I'm going to lose years of my life before this is cured and I can finally out this behind me. Please don't take the risk like I did and buy into what these doctors are saying. The truth is that Merck knew about persistent side effects but strives to hide it. Look into the unsealed documents and never touch this poison. How sad that the medical community has failed it's patients in this manner.
When did you stop taking it ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Genital anesthesia. You guys are too funny
any improvement bro ....I really feel bad
you are recovering?
@@ycyean8235 he died bro 😔 He took 1 pill and his balls exploded 😢
@@matkorkes1304 appreciate the sarcasm dude ...just asking about people's well being even if it's a nocebo or other effect which just crossed the path of fin
It sounds like most people don't need as much as often the label recommends. I blame the pharma companies. People may be unknowingly blasting themselves with way too much. Too much of anything can be hazardous.
I hope you keep this video up when this is fully proven. It's only a matter of time at this point.
Their livelihoods are based on this protocol of patients taking finasteride to stabilise their loss, then doing the hair transplant.
Surely after 30 years it will get proven.... any day now
@@dw4525that doesn't even make sense. If it was purely for money they wouldn't even recommend finasteride so that people would have to get more transplants
I spoke to a professor of urology last week. He said this condition is becoming more known in the medical community.
@@dw4525 it's not I promise
5AR is important for brain health (mood, sleep, motivation etc). Finasteride lowers 5AR by minimum 70% on 1mg per day. Over time it causes problems. PFS could only occur if there’s been a permanent negative change somewhere in this system either 5AR is no longer produced or other mechanisms have in effect permanently “deregulated” from lack of action.
Exactly. 5ar makes allopregnanolone and this hormone overcomes depression, anxiety, and lethargy. Hair loss medicine eliminates the hormone
@@ztvvtsh65 yep 5AR inhibitors effeminates us sexually ,mentally and physically.
@@ztvvtsh65 so the body will not produce it any further? Even if you stop taking the drug
@@brokenbutterfly3178 If you stop the medication, the hormones will be produced again. Don't worry
@@ztvvtsh65 how long will that take? I've been on finasteride for 2 years until recently I noticed sides so I stopped immediately. Its been a week and so far, nothing has changed. I'm having ed and very low libido. Its strange how I never got any sides all throughout those 2 years, not even at the start but now all of sudden, I feel broken.
i have pfs for 19 years choose wisely
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i meant to say be careful what you choose to do, some side effects are horrific@@fuadismayilzada1816
I wish this show was available 10 years ago. Thank you Gentleman!!!!!!
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@@sapphirehairtransplants your link doesnt work. Can you share again?
I developed erectile dysfunction after taking about a week and a few days. After that it got progressively worse per day. I had to stop by the time I got to two weeks and a half. It destroyed my sex function and my penis would not get erect at all. I got so scared! I’m still scared if I’ll stay like this for life. It’s already been around 8 months and I’m not better. I feel worse at times with severe depression and constant brain fog and memory loss. But what’s worse is that I can’t get an erection like I normally would. It’s not mental either. I was happy and waiting to get results and have beautiful hair. And I had a lot going on for me. This destroyed me. I have friends that it did the same.
So what’s the treatment to fix this??? Haven’t found it and endocrinologist just say it’s in my head. How I would it be in my head when I NEVER think that I have brain fog, muscle mass loss, erectile dysfunction, and some puffy nipples. My capacity to control my body must be insane for it to be just in my head…
Please report your case to your country's medicines regulator.
@@egbertsmith2435 how do you do that? This is probably why it’s not well known enough. Not many know how to report it but also I know as a man we keep to ourselves and we do not want to report it due to being a hassle or worse getting chastised and looked upon baldly by others.
@@Nerdy_AomebaWhich country are you in?
@@egbertsmith2435 I’m in the US
Try shilajit and ashwagandha that is a natural herb that may help you
I got persistent side effects (ED, low libido, etc) months after discontinuing finasteride as normal, healthy 23 y/o male with no preexisting medical conditions. Side effects from fin are definitely real, and for an unfortunate few permanent.
Its all in your head
Im sufferer from Post Finasteride Syndrome. Suffered for 11 years now. I strongly recommend not taking it. It has the potential to more or less destroy your life.
Have you had you hormones checked? Started any other medication?
How long did you take it? I done only 3 pills and three weeks later I still have sides
Damn how long did you take it for? And how soon began the side effects?
Er du dansker?
@@macetini I took it for a week and half all side effects 12 months ahead. Ruined my life
Started on Finestride, then dutasteride. Had progressively worsening effects...however not very long later I had discovered I had low T from a few other, completely unrelated medical problems and am now on TRT for life.
I think dutasteride seven days a week is complete overkill as my DHT is permanently crushed to almost zero, but even with no DHT my side effects are much less on TRT than before. To a large extent, if you have sufficient overall T levels you can survive with severely depressed DHT levels for a long time.
People with ‘post finestride syndrome’ are most likely with an advancing low testosterone problem that don’t have enough T any longer to cover for the missing DHT...
Also, DHT levels when you have low T seem to pegged more as a ratio of estrogen than testosterone...people who ate higher than average estrogen converters, with low T and a high ratio of DHT to T seem to people vulnerable to baldness anyway...
If you are thinking about starting on a DHT blocker, get a full hormone panel done first!
What hormones did you analyze? Never got an hormone panel done before, and after two years of Finasteride I'm experiencing side effects.
Should I get a hormone panel done at the request of my general care doctor?
You need a full testosterone panel, including DHT and estrogen. If you get a liver function test done as well, then an endo can calculate your free androgen index based on SHBG and albumin levels. My free androgen index was absolutely appalling. Even worse than my free T...it was basically 50% of the minimum level at which you can be treated in the U.K.
There are some people who take estrogen as a hairloss measure as it apparently reduces 5AR activity somehow and thus lowers DHT.
Since going on TRT I’ve cut my Dutasteride usage from every day to twice weekly and added in topical fin 0.25 and increased minoxidil from 5% topical to 15%...
So far hair seems to have got thicker, not thinner...
@I. Ron Butterfly This is literally MPMD (More Plates More Dates) hypothesis when it comes to PFS.
What's trt?
Only been taking finasteride for like 2 months and I’ve been scaling off of it. My doctor said it was reversible, so I’m gonna get off it ASAP. Side effects horrible, I’m a completely different person
What are the side effects ?
I had an effect after 2 days of taking 0.25mg for 2 days to see if it would agree with me. I was 18 had a high T, got a script from a pharmacist.
After 2 days my dick did not work for a week and took another near 10 days to recover, I'm 32 and my hair is the same as before, allways had a strange hairline even as a kid.
I would see a endocrinologist maybe TRT would help alot
Could be something else.
Full bloods and check for hornoan levels and just everything full blooodwork.
Maybe take some supplements multivitamins and viatmins, eat betterz sleep longer get some excerzise.
Try to avoid anti depressants as they could make you feel even more strange.
Working out could help.
In my mind finesteride and dut is just poison that works for some but it it's that toxic to a fetus god knows what else it must do.
I was really lucky I only took a wel half dose over the course of 2 days crazy lucky I did not take dut.
These guys sound like pros but it is how they make a living and less treatment = less money.
A new and safer hair growth drug is being tailed the company does not have the best reputation but anything is possible.
I'm on ablowndose of testosterone gel due to the pain meds in given lowering my T level. Has not effected my sex drive but just felt tired and not right.
On the gel feel great but don'tess around with blackmarket workout T.
Hope you feel better.
How do you make a hormone?.....
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Don't pay her !
@@luked2767 Bro did you recover?
The side effects is you can't get hard for 2 weeks at 18 or so that was frightening, I'm 33 now and my hair hasent realy lost any, but I took in total half a pill over 2 days, this is not stuff to be messed around with, I'm currently waiting for testosterone gel as I have realy bad neve damage in my abdomen and the pai killers lower my test, I order USP cialis from China and take a micro dose every week or a half dose when I want some fun.
Please don't take this stuff unless you have full blood work done beforehand to see your hormaon levels, and make sure they don't just want to make mo ey.
A usable dick and no hair or hair a dick you can't use then you loose the hair..
So many guys have perninabtpy lost the ability to get hard from this stuff and it's so toxic I would just avoid it and use other topical rogaine that's generic
@@luked2767 You can tell this is bs cause 2 days of 0.25 mg would do absolutely nothing 🤣🤣🤣 it’s all in your head buddy lol
Does finasteride cause sleep disorders? I have taken it only for 9 days, with a slight weakening of erections and a significant decrease in libido. However, the strangest symptom is waking up too early. It is not a matter of anxiety: when I am nervous, I usually have a hard time falling asleep. During these days, instead, I have fallen asleep very quickly, but I have always woken up early and become unable to fall asleep afterwards. This has never occured to me in my life, regardless of the level of stress. I discontinued the drug 3 days ago, with an improvement of the sexual symptoms (which had never been severe anyway), but the sleep disorders persist.
Yes
Your hormones have become unbalanced...see a HRT specialist
@@rudrum Hey Rafal, I have the same problem. My sleep ends at 3 hours and I have to take a very strong sleeping aid every day to maintain sleep. Without sleep I'd already have killed myself. It's a nightmare become real. Insomnia is the worst of all PFS symptoms, I guess.
Did it improve already after you wrote this post? If you are seeking advice regarding sleeping aid, write me. You are not alone in this. Take care, man!
I just took my first dose last night - hair isn't too bad yet, but was curious to see how I responded. Last night, soon after the first dose I felt intense light-headedness and some brain fog coupled with an intense difficulty to get to sleep. I eventually did manage - woke up feeling slightly better. I have noticed that my erections have also somewhat weakened alongside my libido. This is super noticeable for me - as my libido is usually really high and it's easy for me to get an erection. I also noticed today that my seaman is super watery. Do you reckon I should continue with the drug?
@@chrisdoesmusic it will manifest very soon. You won't sleep well and your libido will go downhill. Issues with memory and lightheaded will stay for the whole duration of intake.
I have zero libido/sexual desire and 0 random erections after only two weeks. Quit today. I'm glad I found out early. I hope I can go back to normal.
Please stay off it. Don’t be fooled by people saying your body will adjust to it. I made that mistake
@@dw4525 Believe me, I won't. I'm still young but i'd have the hairline of a medieval monk if it meant i don't have symptoms forever.
How u feeling today bro?
@@sweeps42 I can at least have erections and intercourse now but my libido is still really low and my manhood area still feels different, kinda disconnected.
how are you now
I read a comment from someone that could help you : Best treatment plan is a combo of low dose HCG (250-500IU) every other day, Progesterone cream 10-50mg once nightly, an aromatase inhibitor (if needed), and HDAC Inhibitors (butyrates, NAC, lithium, etc.) daily. This would need to be done for a number of months.
The HCG will stimulate neurosteroid synthesis in the brain (verified in multiple TBI studies), Progesterone will further make more Allopregnanolone, and HDAC inhibitors help reverse some of the methylation (verified in cancer research) that occurred on both the enzymes and the receptors.
If you're someone who got really screwed up by 5ARIS, you may need to run additional "cycles" of DHT based compounds to downregulate and restore signaling to the Androgen Receptors after you reboot the neurosteroids using the above.
This poison completely changed my life. Because of all these big pharma guys I trusted on the medication. Now I have no choice left but to die
What happened to you man?
Which side effects do you face
@@gustavobastos769 nothing happened to him. hes a terminally online chronic masterbaiter with a history of mental illnesses, depression and ssris now blaming one of the most prescribed pills on earth for his worthless existence.
I have a feeling the numbers are wrong when it comes to side effects from Finasteride. They say only 2-3% of people get sides from Fin, that BS. How is it that myself, and a good friend of mine both suffered similar side effects when taking Fin? My sides came a bit later, and his sides earlier. That to me doesn't sound very rare.
6 months in and I got hit with ED. Im a fellow aussie like these cunts, so I listened to them and now I ain't get a working johnson.
@@sweeps42how old are you? I have same issues
Of course, these guys literally have blood on their hands, promoting this awful drug. It is way way more than 2-3%. Those studies are fraudulent
@@Daniël-j7p6vI heard side effects are 18%
@@tired_of_everything0 Hey, sorry for late response. I'm in my mid thirties. Fin works really well, and I'm still taking it. However, these common sides that are said to be 2-3% must not be right.
So glad I found your channel! I just started finasteride on Friday. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
Me too, 3 times a week?
Good luck with your Russian Roulette
@@TheMusciman doc said 1mg/day but I will likely take 1mg every other day
@@daviddoff5797 every medicine carries risk. My migraine medication does too but that doesn't mean I'm going to have chronic migraines the rest of my life because of an irrational fear of side-effects that occur in a small % of users. By your logic, majority of pharmaceuticals should be avoided since most carry potentially serious side-effects.
Took Finasteride for a couple of weeks. 0.5mg to try to reduce side effects. It stopped the hair loss, but it made me extremely depressed and impotent. Wasn't worth it for me. Gonna have to figure out another treatment. I find your skepticism of the side effects at the beginning of the video a bit odd, considering your reasoning for the skepticism is because people were treated with 5mg years ago and were fine. It wasn't discovered until 1992, so it makes sense that they wouldn't discover longterm side effects until recent years.
How tf you become impotent after only taking it for 2 weeks and at that low of a dose? This seems kinda sus
@@Ethereal11177 what do you mean after only two weeks? Medication side effects are often immediate. What a bizarrely irrational response to someone sharing a lucid and factual experience
The thing is, you are saying it yourself. "We gave Propecia 5mg/day to old 50 year old men, nobody complained back then".
Exactly. Give a 50 year old with already low DHT levels a drug that will reduce DHT, he wont notice. Give a 25 yeard old with HIGH DHT levels a drug that will reduce DHT and it will probably change his life to the worse. But he can keep his hair.
nope, no difference
I was taking finasteride for a year. I noticed side effects after a couple months of consuming it, ED. Then I stopped using finasteride, but not getting any better. I realized that I vape back then, which is it could cause the same side effects, ED. Then I stop vaping as well. Now everything is normal again (4 months). You guys are right, thank you for giving me hope back then.
Do you think it was the vaping or just getting all the finasteride out of your system?
@@trevorthiessen6317 I've been getting all the finasteride out of my system for 6 months but still not working. So I think it was the vaping, but finastride plus vaping at the same time makes it even worse. At least for my case
@@ps4pc549 can you elaborate on what is "still not working" for you?
@@trevorthiessen6317 curing my ED in this case
are you on finasteride now ?
You should really update this video as it now comes across like you are not just downplaying the potential adverse effects but are deliberately mischaracterising them along with their history of reporting. Saying they essentially appeared from nowhere 10 years ago in a ‘strange round-about way’ is simply not true. There have been many animal studies, going back to, at least, the early 2000’s showing permanent genital alterations. Court documents were released in 2019 showing the safety profile from the manufacturer to be extremely misleading when it came to logging adverse events. It has since been confirmed the persistent adverse symptoms are likely due to gene deregulation (epigenetics), therefore claims of a nocebo effect are really just a tactic to discredit and downplay reports of legitimate harm.
But that doesn’t change the fact that all the studies on pfs so far are poor quality I personally do believe in pfs but I actually believe it’s even rarer than portrayed online i think a lot of the cases are either psychosomatic or down to other health issues
@@RH-eb6tm Without wanting this to appear like a personal attack, you say you ‘believe in PFS’ yet follow up with the previously mentioned dismissive claims. Denial of PFS/persistent symptoms typically unfolds as follows: First it’s claimed it’s all make-believe or ‘psychosomatic’. When informed about evidence of biological abnormalities it’s said sufferers must have another underlying illness or have abnormal results due to ‘lifestyle factors’. So now it’s not imaginary? Interesting. This is elaborated with further claims that biopsy results may indeed be indicative of disease, just unrelated to Fin use. At this point some vehement naysayers may claim of these men - and these are young men - must have, coincidentally, had these problems prior to using Fin but somehow they, collectively, only became aware them during or after Fin use, leading them to falsely believe Fin is responsible. Or, they were aware of them prior to Fin use but want a legal payout or something to blame their pre-existing symptoms on because they are dishonest. When it’s pointed out the biological abnormalities match those abnormalities found in previously healthy animals given 5ARI, responses are either thin on the ground, or it’s claimed that drug trials and FDA safety reports speak for themselves. Typically, there is no direct response to the fact Merck’s redacted court papers prove they lied about the drug’s safety record because there is no way to justify that course of action. It’s all just a big coincidence, right?
If you’ve read the few focused PFS studies (those specifically investigating PFS patients and experimental PFS animal models) then have you reviewed the associated research references? How are you personally defining PFS? It’s simply lasting and varying symptoms after 5ARI use, and not necessarily limited to ‘sexual dysfunction’ or ‘depression’ that was later added to the warning leaflet. Not all evidence of harm is listed or searchable under ‘PFS’ and direct research on PFS men is still relatively new. So if you haven’t done so already, consider widening your investigations to include general and specific studies on 5ARI human and animal subjects with a focus on adverse outcomes, also androgen and androgen receptor-related diseases. Look at a wide range of neurosteroid and neuropsychiatric papers. Consider reviewing other post-drug syndrome research, you’ll note epigenetics is a common theme, so review genetic/epigenetic literature too. Don’t look in one place for answers.
@@etonmess6247 your making it sound like I said it doesn’t exist which I didn’t the main point I’m trying to make is that the constant fear mongering online isn’t helping anyone and there is a lot of people that have convinced themselves that they have it when in reality they don’t people underestimate the power of the brain when it comes to these things and I think people should consider the fact that it could be ‘in their heads’ if you like because a lot of people seem to overthink possibly down to other mental health issues such as ocd for example it’s very easy for a person with ocd to convince themselves that they have the condition don’t get me wrong there are promising studies but there still isn’t solid proof there may well be proof in a few years time but at this moment the evidence is nowhere near strong enough
@@RH-eb6tm I think it’s safe to say that no one can fully determine who is or isn’t experiencing their symptoms due to the drug, other physical factors, or perhaps purely psychological factors by simply reading a person’s limited online posts. Although, I disagree that there isn’t already solid proof that 5ARI are potentially harmful to some users. I think what you might mean is the current evidence (those focused PFS studies) isn’t quite strong enough to conclude a direct causation with Fin in some men who report persistent symptoms. There is, however, strong evidence that these men have enduring abnormalities and there is strong evidence that 5ARI have caused similar enduring tissue changes in rodents.
@@etonmess6247 Yh I would agree with that what I don’t really take issue with people giving warnings about the drug because some people will have a genuine bad reaction to it very rare but it does happen unfortunately but I what I do take issue with is people trying to scare people who are already taking the drug by saying that they will eventually get it and tbh I reckon quite a few people will have gotten scared and given themselves a nocebo effect from that it’s really hard to determine whether the issues these people are having are down to fin or other health issues but a lot of the pfs people will not consider other possibilities and this is what is keeping them unwell as they are thoroughly convinced that fin has cause they’re problems and no one can tell them otherwise they usually respond in an aggressive manner which makes it hard for people to help them
It is irrelevant to compare the rate of erectile dysfunction between people having taken finasteride and the general population.
Because PFS is not only erectile dysfunction, it is a full set of troubles going from sexual to cognitive and physical, consequences of the hormonal unbalance induced by finasteride.
I understand there is here an advice consisting in practicing stop and go (1 month / 5 month). It's a dangerous advice. Once the unbalance is there, most of the time it's too late. The body can't recover and there is currently no treatment.
How is it dangerous advice?
Why should anyone keep taking finasteride if they know that the drug is causing problems for them? Also, how long is too long when it comes to taking finasteride?
@@brokenbutterfly3178 He is right. And to answer your question, people keep using it because they want to desperately keep their hair, so it's a tradeoff. How long is too long: there is no rule, everyone is different. Some can't even recover from a single pill.
So the main issue isn’t ED right? Because there are lots of treatment options for that. What’s the main side effect that doesn’t go away?
@@Joe-dz2fl they don’t know cause it’s not real 🤣 Any bad feeling they feel they will blame on finasteride for the rest of their lives 🤣 “my wife left me? Must’ve been that poison finasteride!!!” 🤣
@@matkorkes1304 Another dog out of nowhere. If fin is so amazing keep taking it. One day your time will come
I hear about permanent side effects, like impotence, sterile or severe depression. Is that possible? Permanent side effects...?
Yes, it's possible. Look up Post-Finasteride Syndrome.
Have been off the drug for 6 months and my dick is numb, insônia and anxiety. Being impotent is enough to make a man end his life but finasteride side effects are way worse. From erectile problems to suicidal ideation! There are dozens of side effects. Used topical for 2 weeks. Viagra stopped working
@@IgrwOw Holy shit, man. What about endocrinologist exams or something like that? Have you been monitoring your body?
@@douglas5097 yes. Testo at the sky, everything is normal. Finasteride does something to the neurologic receptors that are all over your body. There are researches ongoing investigating epigenetics issues on this venom. Some people are affected while others are not.
@@IgrwOw Thanks for the reply, man. I wish you all the best in your recovery!
I started with 1mg/day for 3 days within these days, I felt normal, but had no libido, so I didnt try test if had sides, on the 3rd day I tried, and I noticed sides, after frantically researching I assumed it was all in my head, blamed it on my anxiety etc, went off it for 3 days, sides went away. and tried it again today, sides are back again...
I think I'm just going to let nature take its place
I took it for 3 days (and stopped) and the sides went away. Then I took it again for several months (at a lower dose where the sides weren't obvious at first) and the sides never went away. What I'd give to be in your shoes and to be able to make another decision!
Concojone5 I don’t understand how your sides hunt gone away, people say that PFS doesn’t exist
I'm not sure I understood your question. PFS is when the symptoms haven't gone away half a year after stopping
@@Concojone5 How are things now for you, has anything improved?
@@noahlaferriere5515 No improvement in the last 2 years. The symptoms that did improve a bit, did so in the first week or so, although a few people have reported improvements for up to several months after quitting (there's a big community out there). Most of the damage is hard-wired. PFS is considered a lifelong condition with no known cure, very similar to what SSRI and acne meds victims have to deal with. More details in my main comment on this page.
I got Minoxidil and Finasteride. Started using the Minoxidil only as I had read about the side effects of Finasteride. Started it and never had any side effects thankfully.
how is minox ? Did you use fin ?
@@IsoXable I have no problem with any of them. Minoxidil has been great and impressive hair growth. Finasteride, no side effects at all.
@@vodkaburner3371 Thank your for your response. I am debating myself wether i should use Fin or not. But I think I don’t want to take the risk. I will start Minox soon. Hope it won’t make it worse...
@@IsoXable minoxidil allein reicht nicht
@@vodkaburner3371 Update on fin 2 years later?
Guys, you should know you are playing a hair or death lottery. Vast majority will get hair, according to statistics, but if you are unlucky, as it happened to me and many others, you might end up with your life ruined. Permanently. Sex sides are the less important. In my case, insomnia and depression are the big deal. Actual reasons are still to be determined, but 3 major options are on the table on why when you have your 5AR Enzyme recovered after quitting finasteride form 3 months your body never functions the same again.
I wish I would have never approached this poison. My advice, don't take the risk. Accept baldness, use topic or get a transplant.
Is topic finasteride fine?
@@oalbornoz In principle action of topic finasteride is local so the risk of causing a big mess in your hormones is lower. However, i've heard of a few cases where topic also lead to severe symptoms. Check on Propeciahelp webpage for these cases.
wise advice.
I have to say, I am deeply saddened by the fact that I am not able to take finasteride because of the horror stories I have seen on UA-cam. As reassuring your videos are, those other videos have really spooked me...
ikr it sad
I will repeat a what I said in another comment regards “all those people” you see giving horror stories.
There are also people on hair loss forums with vested interests. They suck in gullible people into their forums to make money off ad revenue of lawyers looking for lawsuits of gullible victims with imaginary conditions like post finasteride syndrome that are all in their head, and from snake oil hair loss companies who put ads on their and sell products that don’t work.
There is an entire online industry centered about these snake oils salesmen. They flood finasteride UA-cam videos to crate the imagine that many people have the imaginary post finasteride syndrome to sway them from using the drug and signing up for membership their forums and buying their useless products (which also often have side effects).
Mathematically, it’s impossible for that many people to have such side effects because 1) the well researched studies with good sample sizes and years of follow ups don’t show it and 2) the patients of hair loss doctors experiencing side effects are not higher than in the studies. If the studies were wrong, the patients would be experiencing it and finasteride would not be used by millions of people around the world, making it one of the most popular drugs. If something as severe as ED was or deep depression was experienced in a large percentage of people taking the drug, it would NOT be used consistently by millions of people around the world for years and decades. Many people will put up with minor side effects, but they would NOT put up with severe side effects like ED or imaginary post finasteride syndrome or very deep depression. Most people would drop the drug if they were the case.
But it’s not the case.
I am suspicious when I see comments like tours. It makes me think you are likely a troll from a hair loss forum like the many UA-cam troll accounts used to push that industry. Those people are the real snake oil salesmen, not the hair loss doctors. The hair loss doctors actually improve people’s lives with scientifically backed therapies that WORK and have very few to no side effects for most people.
Finasteride doesn’t block all the DHT in your body so you still have enough for the neural steroids as well. So most people won’t experience significant depression. Only a very small percentage of people who are already predisposed to depression will.
Stephen Hyland hi, thank you for your comments, I appreciate where you’re coming from. And I think your right, that is why I’m scared to take it as I am predisposed to depression and have a very pessimistic attitude and can’t help thinking that I will be the one who gets worse depression if I take finisteride! And yes the negative spin vested interest has spouted has worked on me and spoiled my chances of keeping my hair. I still can’t decide, my wife is all for it though... I actually bought it online and then cancelled my order and bought minoxidil, which buy the way I’m having imaginary side effects. Thanks again
Same. I really want to take it, but I am way too anxious to take the plunge
@@kristoffernaslund9455 I took 0.5 mg of finasteride in total and have very serious side effects. I am on day 3 all i can hope is that it goes away and i recover. I read online it stays permanent for some people. Look up the site called propeciahelp and read the forums on how bad peoples life become mentally and sexually. I wish i didnt take it because i realize now that having a healthy functioning body is way more important than having hair. People who had no permanent serious side effects with it do recommend it bcs its good for stopping hair loss.
I've been on 1mg finasteride for about 10 years. I'm 34 years old. My hairline had receded a little bit and I wanted to ensure that I had a full head of hair going forward for cosmetic reasons. The men in my family don't get particularly bald, I'd say they have about the average hair-loss that you see in males. I'm just super into longevity in general. I had a testosterone blood test done last year and it came out as being out-of-range on the high side. 35.8 nmol/L (current reference range is 10.0-32.0). Converted to ng/dL that's 1031.7. So in terms of total testosterone I'm sitting pretty, especially for a 34 year old.
Anyways, my erections have been weaker the last few years and thus I have been using viagra to make sex better (which works very well). I can still perform without it to a degree, but it's definitely not perfect and I have to make sure I get constant stimulation. As far as my libido goes, it's okay but every so often I go through spells of it being low. I should note that I'm pretty sexually active and have had many partners over the years which I believe has made me psychologically desiring sex less than someone who never gets any, lol.
I came across some of these videos and I decided to stop taking finasteride to see if I'll feel any different. It's been literally 3 days and this morning I woke up with an erection. I haven't had morning wood in quite some time! It could just be a coincidence. I'll report back here over the weeks and months and see how I go.
A week in and I had another solid erection this morning. I swear I haven't had these in quite a long time. I'm going to stay off the finasteride for 1-3 months and continue to see what happens. The real test will be when I go back onto finasteride and if these side effects return or not as I'll definitely be restarting so as to keep my hair.
Really appreciate the long winded comment. I’ve been on the topical finasteride for the last three weeks and I’m normally very mentally healthy, but I’ve been fatigued, low energy, and borderline depressed the last two weeks. I am going to stop taking it for the next week or so to experiment as well. Keep us posted on your experience.
Took finasteride 1 mg per day for about 9 months, the morning erection disappeared for 4-5 months.
Before taking finasteride, DHT was 740-800, аfter taking finasteride, about 300.
@@VictoRs107 Hello Denis, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say. You're saying your morning erections disappeared for the last 4-5 months of the total 9 months you were on finasteride?
@@RoughChopTom Yes, that's right, in 4-5 months, the morning erection disappeared. But I continued to take finasteride.
People who haven't experienced PFS themselves will be mostly in denial (telling it's only in people's heads, nocebo etc.) until it's too late unfortunately. This cycle will continue for years to come.
Did you experience it?
@@sinanengin5756 I do, my sex drive is gone. It's only physical stimulation which keeps me working, mental one is not possible anymore. Some connection in my brain has shut down. Thinking about sex has no physical reaction.
There is no reason to assume I had any preconditions or environmental effects because my shut down took place overnight and I was always in good shape before taking 0,5mg for 7 months. People just tend to look for excuses so they can take the drug and tell themselves it cannot happen and everyone who tells otherwise is delusional.
But once it happens there is no return to normal and you will regret that day when you decided to take it for the rest of your life and damn yourself for calling it fearmongering. You wish yourself badly back to the point when the decision was still to be made.
If it is on you yet, don't take it. Not even a small dosage. Don't look for excuses and talk yourself into the "I'll be fine" mindset - you don't know. Balding is not that bad. It's not even a point of thought for me anymore after realizing what I've lost.
@@MrCaradras Update bro
@@SS-hj4sf I'm doing ok so far thanks. Sexual symptoms are ok. Can't wait to get back to the gym and work out, it helps. But I get really depressed over how little there is I can do.. On some days I would rather die than keep on struggling so hard just for little improvements.
@@MrCaradras bro you can try water fasting It really works
And I want to say keep yourself or try yourself as happy as possible because in happiness every other suffering becomes less or disappears
Search sadhguru on UA-cam try giving yourself to yoga and spirituality you can also come to India learn spirituality it will definitely going to work brother
Can you make a Episode about topical Finasteride? There are soooo many channels on UA-cam discussing Differenz ingredients and pointing on different Studies for the right solution and dosage
Did you try topical Finasteride?
@@johndupont8596 im using it for 5 months
@@Taptapfail thanks! Any results? I started topical finasteride 0.5% 3 months ago now
@@johndupont8596 Where do you buy it?
I started it and already seeing results but from all experiences I've heard from people it goes systemic after a while like the oral version and that usually leads to side effects long term.
Have you guys ever spoken about how delayed onset symptoms work for dutasteride? Dutasteride has a much longer half like compared to finasteride, 6-8 hours for the latter and about a month for the former, so a 120 times difference. If it takes 3 months to begin experiencing recovery for fin would you have to wait 120 times as long for dutasteride (30 years!)?
I would stick to fin, if you turn out to be ultra sensative to it like I was 15 years ago then if it was dut I think it would have not ended well.
I listened to this video and decided to take finasteride. Took 4 doses and got side effects like ED so I stopped. That was 8 weeks ago. My side effects have worsened since then. Zero libido, ed, gyno, sleeplessness, anxiety, frequent urination. Please don't be fooled into thinking PFS is not real. I thought that way and now I'm certain I have it and its ruining my life. Its not.worth it,even if it only affects a minority.
Bullshit, Nocebo effect
My testicles have shrunk by about 33 percent. That is not a nocebo. That is a nightmare. I have no reason to make this up except to serve as a warning. PFS is real. It happens to a minority of people but its still very real.
also what do you mean 4 doses? you had 3mg in 1 week and then 1mg in another week?
@@primordialking5444 Yes. And that was all it took. I began to get minor ED and after stopping the symptoms got much worse. 3 months later and no improvement.
@@venom_lowrider How are u now ? I hope you are healthy....
It is real. Blocking 70 percent of dht will affect you in negative ways.
Yes and it does more things than just blocking Dht,and dermatologist don't even know,but then if you get affected they left you on your own....its criminal.
@@Dani-xy6uctrue
Guys I took this pill on Wednesday after hearing these guys speak and then again on Friday its now Saturday night and I cannot sleep whatsoever. My body has a very weird feeling and I have ED and I hope and pray to God that my symptoms will go away as suggested by these two doctors
Omar S
Most people who see side effects don’t get them that fast. I am suspicious of your claim.
@@TruthsSake I have read some stories of people in and around the same age as me (late 20s) and it can happen with a few pills. What happened to me I now know was an anxiety attack which over the past week I now know how to better handle but also now these past two days I also have insomnia whereby I haven't slept for the past two days and sleep was never an issue with myself. Like I said I'm very much hoping that like Dr Knudsen has said the side effects do subside and eventually leave I have had instances where I feel I am getting better mainly with the ED where my erections are gradually getting stronger and lasting longer and have been told there's been instances of users taking similar amounts of the drug to myself recovering from anywhere between a week to 3 months...
Calm down you don’t have ED 🙄 if someone told you that a pill had potential to give you limp dick, that’s all you’d think about. Erections are 90% mental.
You should stop, chill and wait a week or 2
if you are worried, take a shot of testosterone, that will reset your hormones, if you still have issues look at my recovery program at www.5arinhibitorhelp.com/
You make a good point about 5mg and 50 year old men not complaining about PFS (Post Finasteride Syndrome) but don't 50+ year old men with prostate issues (so bad to the point they need to take 5mg of Finasteride) have ED anyway? And they probably need to take that medication for the rest of their lives, or at least until prostate surgery which causes ED as well, so how would you ever know if a 50 year old taking 5mg would suffer from PFS? Curious even aside from PFS, do 50 year old men taking 5mg for prostate mention ED much?
Ya but finasteride syndrome effects men under the age of 45 as stated in the studies so saying that 50 year old men were not affected is obvious 🙄
@@aarondodson1261 Curious where in the studies is specifically indicates it only effects men under 45.
@@napnap609 I believe he stated that in the video but I saw random studies online
i m facing ed and no desire ...i discontimue fin 4 month ago but still no improvment in my problem ..
I have developed symptoms after 3 weeks. Is quitting cold turkey advised or should I taper off the medication?
take tamoxifen, it will reverse the effect but may also reverse the result of your hair growth, maybe take tamoxifen in conjunction with finesteride
to lessen the symptoms
To be more specific I’m a male experiencing sexual side effects. It’s been about a week since I stopped taking finasteride and my condition hasn’t improved. Should I be worried?
@@coltensteinbrecher1552 Do you take whey protein?
I used to but not in the last month or so
@@coltensteinbrecher1552 okay, take 1 scoop of whey protein everyday to gain back some libido, as well as do high intensity interval training. Preferably take the whey protein after exercise
I only was on Finasteride for 2 months, and here I am over a year later, and I still feel like it partially affected my memory. I used to be great at remembering things, and now I struggle remembering things I just looked at.
@Justin Susini I switched to Rogaine foam and Lipogaine (both of which I highly recommend) but I think a little bit of my sex drive is gone now. However, I'm grateful I got off the drug when I did. I can't believe how insane the side effects of that drug were. It was like living in a dream 24/7
Took it for 3 days, 3weeks later still suffering from insomnia and low libido.
I feel you bro. You're not alone. Thanks for speaking up, more of us need to speak up. Imagine your family, kids, friends will still be taking this drug years from now if men remain too embarassed to speak up.
@@macetini Give it 3 months. I'm a fellow victim and over the past few years I've had to become quite knowledgeable on the topic. My best piece of advice for anyone with mental side effects: you'll only know your situation after 3 months, and meanwhile you need to give your brain a chance to recover and not make things worse. So for 3 months, do not allow yourself to read or even think about this, distract yourself e.g. nature, going into work rather than homeoffice. Learn to meditate. Pick up physical exercise. It's important to give your brain a chance to recover by not thinking about this. It will affect your future trajectory. Trust me on this. After 3 months (April 15), assess. But not beforehand. Until then, resolve that even if things don't improve, you're going to live a kickass life. If I can do it, so can you.
@@Concojone5 Tnx man, it gives me hope. I feel like I'm losing my mind. I can't believe that just 3 pills can do something like this. It has been 5 weeks and I still can't sleep more than a few hours per night.
HELP!
I started taking finasteride about 11 days ago. I followed Dr Russell's advice and consumed one 1mg tablet every second day. Now after 11 days I got side affect Erectile dysfunction, only taken 6 pills so far and I've stopped taking them.
Im panicking, please advise me what to do?
Be alright mate I had the same absolutely killed my balls . Ok now though 👍
Stop taking it immediately. To keep your hair, your head needs to be suffused with blood twice a day to regrow hair capillaries and stop further hair loss. Lie on your back on your bed and let your head dangle off. Your head with fill with blood, feeding hair follicles. IT WORKS.
Have you improved....my condition is same?
@@abhisheksingh-qx2hc yes once I stopped. It toke a week for symptoms to improve.
For a week I didn't sleep at night. Was really bad.
If you see any side effects please stop immediately.
Exactly your panicking and just shows you just gave yourself a Nocebo effect....mind is a powerful thing.
Super helpful! Thank you!
What i dont understand is how some people don't recover from sexual side effects caused by propecia. In some countries, chemical castration is used on rapers, and even that isnt permanent (6 to 12 months recovery time)
I think bcs it alters your brain. People lose mind to penis connection.
@@derbre122 Physical changes happen as well thats because sudden drop in male hormones(dht).
@Hooaah It is well known that it can cause permanent erectile dysfuntion. Many people do avoid the drug because they are scared but many try it out because they are very insecure so they take anything to stop baldness even if its risky or they think its extremely safe so they take it. And many people who use it report no side effects but some people have serious side effects who are permanent. Its not just erectile dysfunction there are many different side effects. Sexual and mental. I dont have erectile dysfunction but i got other sides. The worst one is not feeling my penis well.
@Hooaah i dont know if its permanent. I only took 2 small dosages and never touched the drug again. I still did not recovered after 2-3 months
@@aristoteles3843how are you now?
My friend who recently committed suicide due to severe symptoms of PFS told me that these doctors convinced him that finasteride was safe.
These clowns peddling this poison crap drug need to know this. I hope you or his family can get in contact with these ignorant doctors so they know. It was a doctor exactly like the ones in this video who convinced me this drug was perfectly safe which destroyed my health and turned my life upside down. I’m sorry about your friend.
Same here. A friend who has PFS tried to kill himself. Fortunately his wife found him in time and they were able to get him to ER.
Now same thing is happening to me. I can't do anything man. Death is the only escape
@@DaneMarshall56377how are you now
I actually experienced extreme anxiety with this medication
@Einsatzgruppen B because docters don't experience these side effects they don't take these drugs
It's common
Same here. How long did it take for you to get better?
@zacw812 not sure I did I take Lexapro now and anxiety is gone
Great content as always! Could you guys briefly cover your impressions/current state of research on other touted treatments (saw palmetto, etc.)?
Saw Palmetto is a waste of money. You'll go bald before you know it.
Can any of you gentleman who are both doctors explain why would some people have these side effects and others not? Besides sensitivity what is being suppressed in those peoples chemistry that is causing this situation?
Thank you.
There are many potential side effects for every single medication, see the information leaflet inside for a really long list. Everyone just reacts differently to medicine, we don't know why.
@@baz1184 yea everyone is a little diff that’s why prob several diff groups everyone falls in
There are a lot of possibilities, according to depressions and other mental problems. We often forget, that 5ar2 is not only there to convert T to DHT, it is also there to metabolise Progesterone.
If you lack of 5ar 1 or 2, or too low Progesterone levels, it will crush down the Allopregnanolone and Cortisol levels in your system.
These neurosteroids are mandatory for mental health.
@@janackermann4623 so what would you say is the best course of action while taking propecia
@@Man-u-flex .
Blood on your hands
This is causing liver disease. Increased Prolactine, and Estrogen due to suppression of DHT. 2% andractim and Mesterolone half tablet per day for 2 months with monitoring HDL could resolve the issue...
I have just fallen into this second group. I did not notice symptoms right away but I may not have been conscious of them. About 8-9 months after staring I developed the most severe sexual side affects. I was taking 4-5 a week. I have not cut to 1to 1.5 a week and still experiencing. Going to get completely off now for the next couple months
How are you feeling Brian?
U sure it is not low testosterone level cause maybe your age or maybe low Vit D levels . Get it checked to make sure
Welcome to the club. It's hard to notice these things sometimes especially if you're single and not having sex all the time.
Hey Bryan . How it is going ? Hope you are well now . Please update. Would be very helpful. Thanks 😀
Bryan, Have the side effects stopped? I am considering taking finasteride it so I'd really like to hear how you are feeling.
The question is whether lowering a very potent sexual hormone by 2/3 does not have a significant impact on the organism in every case. If you on the other hand asked people whether they would sacrifice hair for increasing a libido-enhancing hormone by factor 3, I assume the majority would answer with yes.
Im pretty sure they wouldn't sacrifice hair for that hormone. Why ? Hair is like a huge factor in appearance, which is the first thing that the females notice. If you make no impressions leading to dating and or sexual experiences you won't need the libido increasing hormone!
If she rejects on very first sight even if that is subconscious, have fun with your libido alone. Good luck filling holes outside your home, but hey you can fill all the holes in your house with your own divine protein shake lmao.
You're right, I wish I had accepted this before trying finasteride. But I was too keen on saving my hair... My life could have turned out very different had I not taken the risk.
DHT is no what makes your libido high, thats regular T
@@Concojone5 bro what happened to you
Please talk about the risk of developing type 2 diabetes mellitus that is associated with long-term use of finasteride! People need to know about this.
Did you get that?
@@zzzap5425 Maybe...but I dont know the real cause. I am prediabetic and I use for long term finasteride, before discovery that condition.
Thanks for the response. Hope you doing well.
Do you have reason to believe you aren't prediabetic because of your diet or lack of exercise? Do you have a family history of type 2 diabetes maybe?
@@Retotion My lifestyle has always been exemplary, I'm thin but athletic, I've always hiked, I live close to nature, and yes my father is diabetic, however something needs to trigger it, and I strongly believe that 1mg daily oral finasteride for almost 20 years has contributed to this.
People should take note of who is delivering this information (people who profit from you taking Finasteride). Main point: do your research and don't make a decision based of this video alone. Also, at 7:45 timestamp - well obviously........ you're saying there are more people who experience ED etc. without finasteride vs. people who experience ED etc. with finasteride. That's because the sample size of people not on finasteride is immensely larger. What a silly statement to make. And the final statement you make "this is a very specific group of people who experience this problem" makes it sound like you know who those people are. If there was a way to know, this wouldn't even be a discussion. It terms of susceptibility to side-effects, it's not a specific group, it's an unknown group. Small yes, but unknown.
How are they profiting from promoting finasteride? It's the complete opposite if you wanna make that argument. By not promoting finasteride which is actually effective, they'd be making more money on transplants and other useless treatments
@@akalion213 Because you can't do a hair transplant without finasteride, silly. (Well you can but it would look horrible after a few years when the other hair is gone)
Your first point is excellent. I made the mistake of listening to a hair specialist, where as the real specialist is ... a doctor specializing in postfinasteride syndrome. They are the authority on the matter.
@@Concojone5 There are no doctors specializing in post finasteride syndrome because it's not a real syndrome lmao
@@Concojone5 Wait you're literally just contradicting yourself. They're giving you medication that will prevent you from coming back and getting more hair transplants... Did you even think this through for five seconds?
The best thing i have ever seen on internet. Thank you doctors it's very helpful and sightful.
I am sure that there are lots of better things on the internet, but I appreciate your comment!
The Hair Loss Show you would think so :)
These doctors are clown and murderers
That’s a great point no one ever complained about post proscar syndrome
Exactly, this wasn’t even a thing until 2011, 30 years after it came out, and as soon as people realized they could sue Merck all of a sudden everyone had “Post finasteride syndrome.”
Proscar was used on older men, who probably already had a ton of sexual dysfunction. It's not the same at all
Sid B is right. And I know a guy who got it from proscar use. His body is falling apart. It's real.
@@respectfulyoungmen2141you want people to tell proudly that they have a dead penis? Have you ever thought that just maybe people were afraid to speak up all these years?
@@tired_of_everything0 you're a chronic masterbaiter and an indian incel. your brain is just naturally defected, nothing to do with fin.
Hello. I would like to know if you do any blood test before proscribing Finasteride. Like determining the hormone levels to see if you're more likely to experience side effects. Love the show. Thank you
Check out our video answering that exact question.
The Hair Loss Show or just answer the Q?
@@TheHairLossShow Which video? Why not just answer here?
@@TheHairLossShow
Im sorry for taking your time, im feeling extremelly tired now that i stopped taking finasteride. I used for years. Should i start taking it again?
Just found this channel as I'm considering FUE and have started doing some research. Looking through the video list, this one grabbed my attention.
I've been on Fin for I'd say about 15years. Prior to this I tried saw palmetto, but had undesired side effects, then tried topical minoxidil but after a while i started getting rashes. So I was recommended finasteride. 1mg a day. Hasn't reversed hair loss, just held onto what I have. No one ever told me that it builds up in your system, or that a lower dose would be ok. No ED, but as a 50+ yr old, I put an increasing reduction in libido down to reduction in testosterone. I'm very interested to learn more about PFS after seeing the video. I'm probably one of the lucky ones if I didn't get any clear side effects within months of starting.
It's hard to recognize the side effects. If you'd like to learn more about PFS, see the website of the postfinasteride foundation, and the propeciahelp forums. Don't be put off by the panicky posts, just look for the facts.
did saw palmetto work? in keeping hair?
that´s the issue in taking finasteride for life, there is just no way of knowing if the low libido overtime is due to age or if it´s the finasteride
These guys cannot be impartial. It is in their interest to make these young men look crazy. Taking this drug just cannot be a good idea at least until proper studies are done
You guys are great!!! I'm taking finasteride for a large prostate at low doses and have had major anxiety about it. I'm 6 weeks in and no side effects (yet) but plan to do 6 months on and 3 months off and back at a lower does.
👍
How is this working out for you?
I got a good flow back very quickly, and now I've reduced the Finn even more.. I'll stick with it for a few more months, then take the rest of the year off. Then see how quickly symptoms come back.. less is more if you know what I mean. 🤞
@@zionnofate thanks for that info... I'm trying to decide if I should move forward with this or look at other options
What? Anxiety why?
Taking 1mg fin./day for 23 yrs. No side effects yet.
J. C. That’s wild. What age did u start at?
and how is your hair right now?
so you been using it since 1997 didnt it come out in 1998
@@MrGenoboss 1992, was FDA approved for hair loss in 1998 as it was an accidental finding
@@MrGenoboss A lot of people had already begun using it for it's off-label ability to stop hairloss by 1998 iirc, similar to how people use ru58841 for hair treatment.
i use 6 months and due to some side effects i quit fin and now i suffered from pfs
Can't speak for anyone but myself, but 9 months on finasteride 1 mg per day with zero side effects. I asked my doctor before starting and he said he never had a patient complain about a side effect from finasteride.
Is your doctor a dermatologist, by any chance? Hair loss doctors have every reason to dismiss the side effects that people experience. So why would people bother to tell them about the side effects if they'll just be told it's all in their heads? The people with side effects eventually seek out other doctors. Talk to a urologist or a psychiatrist, and you'll probably get a different story.
@@MC-pc2hf My primary doctor is an internal medicine doctor. I assume he prescribes finasteride for both hair loss and prostate issues.
I start taking fin the last week and i have side effect like erectile dysfunction , im afraid now i stop it plz how much time to recover from the side effects?
Lul bro the problem is from somewhere else side effects start to showing in 4 or 3 month 7 days is nothing
@@EmadGholami-dp4rc no i swear i have avery nasty side effects ,pain in the chest and low libido, ed.... Im now afraid that this fucking side effects stays with me all the time, fuck hair ,i wana my libido back again
Sad fact:How can u use ur libdo when all chicks like thick hair
@@EmadGholami-dp4rc don t ask me, ask johny sins lol
how's it going can you update the situation? I might be going through the same sitation right now altough its too early to judge.
Have you seen permanent side effects in your practice>?
I am 24, last time I had an urge for masturbation was around january 11th, 2019... My life is ruined and will prob never be same. Just the matter of time I will quit..
Marcel S you good man?
@@MARCELpurger May I suggest you seek out the help of an endocrinologist as well as a mental health counselor? Fin may have given you the initial ED, but it's continuous presence may be a result of the trauma of that experience causing psychological issues + the possible exacerbation via hormonal offsets.
Ty for advices... I had everything. Libido is everything.... No money can buy it.. I would sacrafise everything for it. Even being horny on book or wood just to have that feeling of being a man..
@@MARCELpurger Check my story at www.5arinhibitorhelp.com/
Hello doctors, I have a finasteride question that has not been addressed: what happens when the 5mg is cut in advance? Does the medication deteriorate over time if cut into quarters? My pharmacist gave me the 5mg pills but actually pre-cut 100 pills into quarters. Is that okay? I heard that this may risk the medication losing its potency if pre-cut so far in advance. If someone could please respond, I would greatly appreciate this as I am losing my hair quite fast.
I don't fully know the answer to that. If I prescribe the 5mg tab to patients, I get them to cut it up themselves, 1 tab per week. I couldn't tell you what the effect of pre-cutting them would be. Also, with that amount, you would have over a year supply which I suspect would be beyond the expiry date. But cutting the tablets is fine in principle.
The Hairloss Show Thank you for the answer sir.
Hi mate, my doc prescribed 5mg to cut into quarters for prostate not hair and said it will be fine, I just cut one pill and use it till I need to cut another.
The million dolar question.. is this reversible? Or at least some treatment? I read that some patiens recieve arimidex + tamoxifen or clomid, my doctor only agreed to give me tamoxifen but it didnt do too much, ibwant to try with anastrozol too
If you still have it after 3-6 months, it's not reversible, unfortunately. PFS is a lifelong condition with no known cure. At Propeciahelp, you'll find a few thousand victims experimenting with (often dangerous) solutions but it seems almost nobody fixed their problem, many made their condition much worse. However, there are ways to relieve symptoms in (some) patients including hormone replacement therapy and viagra. I hope you get better or find a way to cope with it. Report your case.
Nope it doesn't have a treatment since this condition is just fictional.
@@alexandrustefan1815 you really are a piece of shit dont you?
@@alexandrustefan1815 This is revolting. Think of all the people who died young or were given a life sentence because of finasteride. If you think PFS is fictional, read some of the comments left behind by victims on this page. There are 100+ doctors worldwide specializing in this condition. Warnings of this condition are now on the medication leaflets. Do you think it's fun for us to be on this page and be confronted with our fate? We only do it to save others.
@@Concojone5 If you actually would use some numbers and some studies you wouldn't seem some desperate. As we all know for a drug to be FDA approved it needs to have a safety test done, a long term study. Officially, finasteride is causing side effects in 2-4% of the people who take it and those go away after are being discontinued(I'm pretty sure I don't have to put link for this... those, or even lower numbers are pretty much in every fin study), which is very safe to me. Have you ever wondered why "Pfs" was not a thing before 2011 even if this drug came out in 1998?
Maybe I didn’t hear right but it sounds like they didn’t give any credence to permanent androgenic neutering? Even if they have no experience with such a case they could have at least given some hypotheticals as to how / why that may occur even after several months without finasteride
came here hoping to learn that as well...
I used finasteride (Proscar) for 20 years with excellent results (today I'm 43 y.o., still NW2) but a month ago it stopped working and I was shedding like crazy. I'm now taking Avodart daily, shedding stopped and hair is looking much thicker and healthier.
Flavio Sousa
There isn’t any significant difference in the two in terms of effectiveness. The new drug you are on just suppressed a bit more DHT and also T. You probably were more sensitive to the androgens than most men are and that’s why. One can also add RU onto their hair while taking finasteride if they don’t want to nuke their T levels with a drug like Avodart.
@@TruthsSake lol....finasteride boosts up testosterone for 15% and avodart even mkre
avodart daily is too strong for me. My balls are always aching. It says it stays in the bloodstream for two weeks so i think once a week is enough..
@@rexmonsselespejo7477 why does the balls ache? Is it dangerous in the long run?
@@rexmonsselespejo7477 both balls or just one of em?
For some reason I get brain 🧠 fog and memory issues is this permanently or temporary?
It will stop when you stop taking the pills
@@xmlfilms1996 This seems to be the opposite of what lots of people report.
I took finasteride 12-06-21 through 1-28-22, 3 times per week. I developed side effects, anxiety, loss of libido, some ED. I feel like the side effects are actually worse at the moment (2-11-22) then they were while i was using it. So if i understand you correctly, it takes at least 3 months for finasteride to wash out of your system? So i should expect that these symptoms linger for another 2.5 months?
Also, i did not have these symptoms prior to treatment. Its been extremely stressful on me and my wife, and I'm hoping this goes away very soon.
hey bro, any updates? hope u are doing well
@@ohayo ive been doing better, but not 100%. Anxiety has been a lot lower but still there occasionally. Libido is coming back, slowly. Ed has been a lot better, but i still have occasional times of going soft suring sex, but then i am able to get it back. I think it might be anxiety related. Ive been having a lot more frequent and reliable erections more recently. I did have my Testosterone checked, and it was on the low side (400 total) but not horrible. I have a pretty high lean muscle mass and workout regularly, so this seems low. Supposed to get it checked again in a month.
Its now 6-3-22, anxiety is better. Libido is still probably 10% what it used to be. Dont have ed problems, just hardly ever have any desire.
@@trevorthiessen6317 Were you aware of the side effects before taking it?
@@akalion213 i was aware of some of them. But after seeing and reading most medical professionals experience with the side effects, it sounded very rare, and i thought it was probably only guys with a tendency towards high estrogen/low testosterone to begin with. Ive never had a bad reaction to any other prescriptions, plus i am in really good shape and have all the physical signs of high T levels (muscular, lean, broad shoulders, defined jawline, high libido) and i had diffuse thinning, so i thought i would be a perfect candidate for this. The only side effects i was really worried about was gyno and maybe ED, but moreso gyno. I never even got a hint of gyno. I thought my libido was ironclad since it was so high before (i thought, how can you NOT be in the mood?). I actually figured it would do me some good to knock it down a bit. But i never thought it would go away completely. Also, i didnt know about the anxiety side effect and got that pretty bad, although that has gotten a lot better.
To update, the last few days have actually been really good. My libido has actually came back, not super strong, but enough that i felt as normal as ive felt since December. I felt good yesterday and today so far. I think MAYBE I'm starting to get to the tail end of this?
Any medicine to wash out?
time
Given Finasteride halts or reverses the balding process through the inhibition of 5a reductase (isoenzymes 2 & 3) which is responsible for masculinisation during puberty and reproductive/muscular/cognitive efficiency in adulthood, is it fair to say that it is a mild form of chemical castration? It seems to me that the potential risks of side effects of lasting feminisation far outweigh the benefit of keeping your hair.
How did you jump from one point, too linking finasteride to a mild form of chemical castration? The drug blocks the breakdown of the hormone by blocking the enzyme, the hormone doesn’t disappear, it’ll just be broken down through other means in the body?
Chemical castration is a method of removing a mans ability to impregnate a woman, the comparison is surely you would agree, a very harsh one? A man losing his hair could be something as easy as accepting it and shaving it all of one night, or for some men a complete disaster, which rightfully or wrongly completely controls their life
@@traceurGeorge I think 'castration' in this case is loosely used. It's besides the point. It's about the potential side-effects of finasteride. You're right though, it's a bigger deal for some than others.
@@traceurGeorgefinastride or very similar drug is used in chemical castration. Finastride is also used in transgendering a men to a woman.
Hi, do you think taking finasteride as someone who already has mild gynocomastia is risky in terms of making the gyno worse?
how does your bloodpanels look? If high estrogen I would get that under control first. Zink, B6, loose weight
@@ShaneBoy
My acne on back and even scalp went crazy when I started fin, i’ve stopped for 6 weeks now and it’s all
Cleared but I’m
Still getting breakouts on chin/ it’s messed with my hormones. Would a blood test help/ how do I get things back to normal in regards to hormones? Cheers
@@SuperKoreanzombie what dose are you taking
@@jakirohiro1960
1mg daily for 3 months then stopped
Resumed 1mg 3 times a week but got same sides so quit
It was giving me hormonal acne around mouth, on upper back which I’ve never ever had and on scalp too which I don’t usually get.
@@SuperKoreanzombie what about libido? Did it have any effects down there?
I’m on Finasteride for 22 years and depressed as fuck for 22 years ! Didn’t know that shit did this to me for so long !!!
It is so sad that I am suffering for this syndrome that i am very sure of it. I am waiting for a cure but it is far to find it due it is still not proof from science
I have post finasteride syndrome after only taking finasteride for 3 weeks. Just give it time, exercise, eat right, and you will recover. I won't happen overnight and it may take 1-3 months to feel like yourself again. I'm dealing with brain fog and low libido atm after a month off the drug, but I do feel some improvement.
Omahre I have been feeling good since I eat just protein and vegetables.. why do y think that we improve after eat well?
@@SketchyyHD did you really take max. 1 mg per day daily or did you take by accident 5 mg Propecia?
Ysaac Rodriguez I’m not exactly sure, but not eating right I know for sure can cause brain fog, along with not getting sleep and other stuff. For low libido being active is what boosts your testosterone.
Mustafa Naser I took 1mg per day, but now after 6 weeks off the drug my brain fog has lessened, and my libido has increased, almost like normal. I will update in a month on my recovery.
I read an article stating that finastareid alters the brain and thata why one gets depresset, is this true? Even ok google says so
Its true
very rare side effect. ive been happier on the drug cause i stress less about my hair
@@matkorkes1304 -Government shill
@@matkorkes1304"very rare" how on earth are you supposed to know which catagory you will fall in? clown
I can imagine if you begin taking Finasteride before the age that you have absolutely an unequivocally completed the transition through puberty and then stop taking it that there would be some undesirable challenges?
Is it possible that there weren't complaints previously with men treating their prostates simply because men in that age range "expect" to not feel like balls of fire sexually, physically, or even in terms of mental acuity? Maybe if they were affected, it was just chalked up to just "life." Whereas when a younger man's life is diminished in those areas, the difference is much more stark and noticeable.
You hit the nail on the head. And I don't understand why hair surgeons keep denying postfinasteride syndrome, when all other doctors are starting to acknowledge it and when even the official labeling/packaging is now warning about it. We go to them for advice because they are supposed to know, and we end up with this terrible condition while they just keep saying how great finasteride is without even questioning themselves. “It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it."
Good point.
There have been complaints going way back to the beginning. These two just decided not to do a simple Google search prior to putting out this video full of misinformation. Some "doctors" huh?
@@OMG_BeCkY phisognomy check never fails
It is serious, I stopped it and everything returned, including slow thinning of hair, but now hair is still thinning but so iare my genitals. I can't sleep, I can't 'get up,' I can't really go on. Fuckers. Where can I get help?
What about now ? How do you feel now
how are you now
I have been taking Finasteride for 2 Years . I didn't notice any side effects until now. It's been 2 months since I'm having premature ejaculation something I never never had . Do you think if I stop taking Finasteride this issue will go away ? How long does the effect of the Finasteride blocks the hormone ?
Did you get an answer? I've been taking it for 2 years as well and had to stop a week ago cause of ed and low libido. Its been a week and things have improved but only slightly. I feel like crap. How about you?
Premature Ejaculation is certainly not on the list bro! 3 months have passed. How have you been? If you're still struggling I would start by checking other aspects of your life. Did you start dating someone new? Do you experience any kind of anxiety related to your performance?
@@brokenbutterfly3178 any update plez ?
@@فيلمتيكاوي so it's almost been 3 months now and I feel like I'm 90% cured.
@@brokenbutterfly3178 did u take any mediction to recover ?
Here's another victim of PFS. I am 27 years old Korean and have been suffering for 3 years.
char zenon How do you suffer? What are the problems? What is the ongoing permanent issue?
@@ErsanYolcu Impotence, numbness of penis, no pleasure during orgasm, loss of libido.Among them, the most difficult thing for me is sexual desire and orgasm.
char zenon How long were you on the drug for before quitting
Same here buddy
Are you on swolesource forum
Using the drug for 2 years now, and I don't have any single side effect. Is it normal? One thing that I only noticed is my enlarged breast, which I think came with my recent weight gain possibly. Other than that, my libido is the same as a 17 y/o teen. Also have not loose any hair for years. I am really thinking to take finasteride for the long term but seeing so many complaints and so less research done makes me think.
Don't take it. These bichass people are lying. I did the same mistake
any update bro?
@@dennybrockmann9005still the same. Still using it and my hair has not changed. It is not very thick, especially in my crown area (it never was tbh), but I am not losing further either.
do you want to clarify more interaction between DHT and beard growth or DHT blocker and beard growth? does finasteride affect your beard growth? Thankyou!
Yes it does, i have been taking Fin for 4 months no side effects but my beard growth seems to be stopped since then (my velus hair in small spots won't become thicker) so i used Minoxidil and my velus hairs are almost turning into terminal hair. At the end i have to say not everyone would get bad effect from finasteride for their beard , but scientifically it does because DHT has a big role for developing body and face hair
@@HaMaNezam but finasteride does not get rid of all dht, it only lowers it by 60-70%
@@TheRon3600 ik but like i said it depends on individual for some people that reduction is not a problem for their beard growth while for some others is enough to make your beard thinner
what percentage of your patients report sides in the first case?
1-2%
20% says the Head of Urology of the St Louis Hospital in Paris
@@Namanop77 My best advice, that was also given to me by people who know, is to stop reading or thinking about finasteride for the next 3 months (May 1). After that, you can do whatever you like. But right now, your job is to break the downward spiral because it can determine what your final mental condition will be. No browsing or even thinking related to this topic, just look up how to control anxiety, spend your time in nature or in some other "good" place, learn to meditate (!). If you want to do more, pick up physical exercise. From what I read you are improving extremely well compared to the typical victim, and you have virtually no finasteride in your system, so don't fuck it up now.
@@Namanop77 It's scary to go through this, I know, but it's normal. Expect slow progress. Accept it may not fully resolve, give it 3 months using the techniques I mentioned above, and you'll know. Only then assess and see if you need to seek mental help (people have success doing that). Meanwhile, if at any point, you have suicidal thoughts, seek professional help. Let's talk again in 3 months. Stop the panic spiral and trust the process. Pause the minoxidil for now. If others can do this, so can you. You're a hero.
@@Namanop77 I'm not a doctor, just a fellow victim who has heard/researched around a thousand stories, enough to have a good idea of the range of possibilities. I'm pretty sure you'll improve given your low dose, but let's be humble here. Typically there is partial or complete recovery, often slow, without medical help, and if you're not happy where you are in 3 months, medical help usually improves things (mental symptoms) from there. But let's not assume a bad outcome right now, let's give you 3 months of mental peace first. You'll be in a better place by then, I promise. Please take my earlier advice. I know it sucks, but you're a hero. We're heroes. Be grateful you quit in time, and took a tiny dose. I wish I had been that smart. The next step is to make the best our of your situation. You'll have to be hero.
P.S. yes it's FDA-approved, but what you're experiencing is a side effect mentioned on the label in most countries around the world. They'll take finasteride off the market, but it will take some time because the medical world is just beginning to grasp the risks of finasteride. It will go like Vioxx and all other FDA-aproved drugs that were later pulled off the market. It is not unusual for medications to have permanent side effects, certain antidepressants are known for this, through a similar action as finasteride, so read up on this if you ever get prescribed one in your life)
Sir can this medicine affect central pathway of brain ??
hi did you ever got a response to your question? Not sure if you had this symptom and it has cleared?
How do we overcome the Post finasteride syndrome
Go on testosterone replacement therapy, 150mg / week
Go to a psychologist. It's pure nocebo effect, trust me as a person who suffered from this and did the same.
@@Dr.med.JohannesBerger can we take this with finasteride
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@@LuisSilva-ov8vx what’s nocebo, I’ve been off finasteride a year but wanna go back on
Do you guys know anything about a finasteride-induced sex drive increase causing a limitation on its effect for stopping hair loss? I’m getting complete opposite reaction to finasteride than everything I’ve been told to expect. But my hair hasn’t changed after two months. No shedding; no regrowth; no thickening of existing hair.
definately takes time, some are not great responders but it still takes longer than only 2 month. I noticed thickening of my hair on month 3 and ne hair growth on month 4, You can always implement minoxodil and microneedling if you want.
I'm 22 I started fin a couple of weeks ago and I feel very weird on it. And I know how to listen to my body when something's up I got super brain fog and very weak and tired.. I'm frustrated beacuse I need to do somthing about my hair and dont know what to do. I'm currently doing the rogan for last almost 6 months with very good results till about halfway threw i got really bad chest pain and palpitations. I realized I was applying to a wet head and should apply to a dry head. I now apply a lot less on a dry head . The chest pain went away but still have palpitations. I need some help were I should go from here:/
Same stuff but a lot less noticable still get palpitations sometimes but not as noticeable as it was. I have to take half a pill of fin at night to elude the brain fog and tierdness during the day. But otherwise doing good hitting the weights staying active eating the right food.
@@Namanop77 I also had testicle pain and did the mistake to go on, got gynecomastia and my testicles shrinked. I stopped finasteride since 8 months and my testicles are still smaller than pre-finasteride, mild gynecomastia is also still there.
Bro you’re probably too young. Wait until you’re 25 before taking fin. You’re body is probably still developing and it needs DHT for that.
Did ur side effects go away? I
Yes they did
I'm starting it soon. Just wondering if taking one 1mg every other day instead of everyday woukd still be effective and keeping the side effects lower. I plan to do that and see what happens
I hv been on Finasteride 0.5mg 3times/week for almost 3 months now. So far I m not seeing any side effects from such a dosage and frequency, and my hair is quite obviously not falling as much. But I haven’t yet noticed any thickening among my existing hairs, guess I will give it more time.
@@siokeongng3479 good to hear, so that's the dose I'm starting out at, took it twice already at 0.5mg 3 times a week and so far so good with no side effects. Maybe u should consider increasing your dose to 1mg three times a week.
yes, there is no significant improvement if you take 7mg a week or 3mg a week studies show. So if you're getting atleast 3mg pre week, its perfect
@@JJ1802 you sure about that? Not even 1 percent better results?
@@OranguBANG no
After stopping the medication, how long does it take for me to feel completely normal again. Currently experiencing some dizziness, anxiety, depression, and just generally not feeling like myself. I've only taken it for 3.5 weeks going down in dosage each week bc of the side effects and it's been 5 full days since stopping. Many thanks.
How do you feel now ?
@@hiraeth195 I got covid shortly after and still recovering from that. So there's just a lot of overlap between what could be from fin or covid. I felt arguably even worse for like 1.5 weeks after getting the positive test result. But currently I am feeling relatively better. But still not 100%. Most of my symptoms are the same to a much lesser degree. The anxiety and depression is prob only from the fact that I'm losing my fair at only 23 yo, and not due to some brain change by fin. I still feel dizzy / imbalanced here and there, but nothing too crazy. I notice I'm worse in the morning right after waking up. Planning on seeing some docs once im negative for covid to sort things out.
@@joshperry1239 did you get the dizziness sorted mate? I have a similar thing right now, like brain fog etc
@@MIKEYW978 it's been 5 months since I first noticed the side effect back in December 2021. I stopped taking the medication around 3 weeks in which is actually right around the time I got covid. My brain fog during that time felt like it changed? Hard to describe. It's entirely possible that my fog from fin changed to fog from covid. So from Jan to I'd say end of March I'd been having that sensation. It wasnt until April that I felt it subside. Currently I think most of it has gone away.
@@joshperry1239 you still off the medication then yeah? I’m going to try topical before thinking about going back on the oral
Took Finasteride for 8 months, developed severe insomnia while taking it - tried to taper off slowly and felt better initially. But then once I fully stopped about a week later I had the dreaded crash and since then my life has changed dramatically for the worse. I have severe insomnia and cognitive side effects - can't work anymore because of it and basically lost all desire and fun in any social interaction due to my constant exhaustion.
I don't say everyone who takes Finasteride develops PFS - most people don't but for the one's who do it has life altering consequences. That is why more research needs to be conducted to establish who can take Finasteride safely and how PFS patients can be treated. That is just what everyone needs to acknowledge - there few dramatically few studies out there and more COI-free research has to be conducted. For example, what the hair loss surgeons in this video claim is the reason that same people have lasting side effects (about Finasteride building up in the body) has just no scientific backup - it is an explanation they have created out of thin air. So please be aware of all that before you start take Finasteride.
(Btw, it seems like most people are focusing on sexual sides - yes they exist but for example I don't suffer from them. Nevertheless PFS has destroyed my life for the last six months and I didn't notice that my restlessness and insomnia stem from Finasteride and not from stress at work until it was too late)
This is exactly my story. I am sorry for you as I am sorry for myself. This never ending total insomnia is the worst torture possible. And it doesn't go away. I checked my morning cortisole level once, it was way too high.
Without the help of an opiate (Tramadol),which sedates me and allows me to sleep at night, I would have gone mad. But the price for sleep is addiction but I know how to taper it slowly down to Zero. I have no choice. But I don't recommend it to anyone taking Tramadol for sleep, although it's very reliable in terms of maintaining sleep. But the next morning you will always feel like death.
I took everything in order to get sleep.
I don't recommend the following meds for PFS insomnia either.
Mirtazapine
Trazodone
Zopiclone
Benzodiazepines
Seroquel
Tavor Zolpidem
Doxepine
Melatonine
All these meds lose their effect after a few days and I feel very bad under them. PFS insomnia came to stay, so you need to battle the root cause (allopregnalone missing, obviously). Go to an endocrinologist asap. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your story. Have you checked all ur hormones levels?
If ur testosterone level is low and ur dht is crashed alone with the other hormones you will have similar side effects that you mentioned.
Thanks for your replies - my hormone levels are all over the place and currently there is no known treatment or cure for PFS! More research needs to be conducted
same
I rather go bald than messing with hormonal activity that takes place in the body because to be honest nobody really understand all this add up and what prolong effects are there. I’m more worried of what’s in the head rather than what’s on it.
That's actually not true, we do understand biology somewhat. If you look up DHT you will find that it is not the same as testosterone.
Smartest comment in the thread. It is very true. Especially the last sentence. I wish I hadn't taken finasteride 4 years ago :(
You both explain things clearly and succinctly.
I think you're both the go to place for this subject.
Thank you sirs 👍👊
appreciate it.
Instead of hearing suffering you guys are doing excellent ignoring them. PFS is a state of your hormones going shit due to your drug and a person suffering from depression or bad mental condition
cheated by doctor
It’s because all those people “suffering” don’t exist. Most of them are fake accounts and trolls from hair loss forums funded by snake oil hair loss product companies that don’t work and that pay for add revenue on these forums. The forum owners also have ads from lawyers looking for lawsuits.
I’ll repeat what I said in another comment:
There are also people on hair loss forums with vested interests. They suck in gullible people into their forums to make money off ad revenue of lawyers looking for lawsuits of gullible victims with imaginary conditions like post finasteride syndrome that are all in their head, and from snake oil hair loss companies who put ads on their and sell products that don’t work.
There is an entire online industry centered about these snake oils salesmen. They flood finasteride UA-cam videos to crate the imagine that many people have the imaginary post finasteride syndrome to sway them from using the drug and signing up for membership their forums and buying their useless products (which also often have side effects).
Mathematically, it’s impossible for that many people to have such side effects because 1) the well researched studies with good sample sizes and years of follow ups don’t show it and 2) the patients of hair loss doctors experiencing side effects are not higher than in the studies. If the studies were wrong, the patients would be experiencing it and finasteride would not be used by millions of people around the world, making it one of the most popular drugs. If something as severe as ED was or deep depression was experienced in a large percentage of people taking the drug, it would NOT be used consistently by millions of people around the world for years and decades. Many people will put up with minor side effects, but they would NOT put up with severe side effects like ED or imaginary post finasteride syndrome or very deep depression. Most people would drop the drug if they were the case.
But it’s not the case.
I am suspicious when I see comments like tours. It makes me think you are likely a troll from a hair loss forum like the many UA-cam troll accounts used to push that industry. Those people are the real snake oil salesmen, not the hair loss doctors. The hair loss doctors actually improve people’s lives with scientifically backed therapies that WORK and have very few to no side effects for most people.
Finasteride doesn’t block all the DHT in your body so you still have enough for the neural steroids as well. So most people won’t experience significant depression. Only a very small percentage of people who are already predisposed to depression will.
Most of the people making these claims of side effects are likely hair loss forum trolls. A small number of them are people who already had very bad health issues before taking he drug and they are blaming the drug. Simple as that.
@@TruthsSake you sure it's not the vested interests of doctors to say nothing but mostly good things about finasteride because they're making BILLIONS of it?
So glad I found you doctors. I have started taken them this week and had a slight headache and then it went away and that was it. I can now go to your videos and debunk all the junk on UA-cam talking about finasteride and minoxidil and get the real truth.
Are you still doing good on finasteride?
Im thinking of taking it. Thanks👍
@@c.1211 Yes I am. I was listening to a bunch of junk on UA-cam and found these real doctors who knew about Finasteride.
@@terrancegamble8487 cool. Thanks👍
@@terrancegamble8487 how you getting on now? I'm in situation as you. Some of these comments make it sound like you take one pill and you may as well jump in front of a moving train
@@Sean-ig6wf Everything is fine. The doctors spoke the truth about the finasteride and minoxidil. I didn't have any side effects or none of the claims some people were having. I didn't use the minoxidil once a day and have seen growth. It's a slow process, but I'm sticking with it.
can finasteride Pills cause cancer or any other diseases?
Finasteride Decrease his overall prostate cancer BUT should one get prostate cancer while on finasteride, these cancers tend to be more aggressive and higher grade.
I really hope this is all just bullshit; I'm absolutely terrified. Nothing in my life has changed for the worse, the only difference was taking dutasteride. After a while, my libido, drive and function down below disappeared, and I've gotten really bad depression, anxiety, lethargy, fatigue, insomnia, muscle weakness and the likes. I've had full panels of blood work done, and everything always comes back great, and my doctor and I haven't been able to find anything else that may be causing these issues. I used to be really happy, and have constant and great energy all day and would sleep great; but now, I'm honestly an often fatigued and emotionless shell. I discontinued dutasteride, and only time will tell if these symptoms persist after it's cleared out of my system. I supposed I'll give it 6 months before I call anything.
better now ?
How are you feeling now
Guys, I just took 6 pills in oct 2020 and had panic attack so I quit taking pills. But still after 4 months having anxiety/panic attacks every day. If anyone experiencing same? Does it go away? Please help me. Please note I do not have any sexual side effects.
Yes it's one of the most common side effects and no, it doesn't always go away. You'll just have to stay calm and manage it well. Good luck.
You ok?😊