Eldar vs Astra Militarum Warhammer 40K Battle Report NEMESIS! 8th Edition 2000pts
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- Eldar vs Astra Militarum Warhammer 40K Battle Report NEMESIS! 8th Edition 2000pts:
Eldar vs Astra Militarum! Fighting across a ruined Imperial city the Eldar desperately seek victory against a heavily armed Astra Militarum force! Will the Eldar outwit and slaughter the Guard? Or will Imperial firepower blow the perfidious Eldar to kingdom come? Watch and see in this monumental fight!
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Really enjoyed that one. Lovely narrative battle amid the ruins. Thanks for taking the time to do this and put it out for us all to enjoy for free.
Thanks Winters:) Nice to see Guard on the rise:)
Really loving guard battle reports atm
Great to see the guard infantry and sentinels advancing through the city to take the fight to the enemy and take an enemy objective! Well done James, well fought, Great bat rep as always Luke, club terrain looking excellent too.
Yeah nice list from James...and seems pretty rock solid:)
Guard beating eldar? Guard is actually strong? What is this? This is too good to believe...
guard is one of the strongest armies in 8th ediditon, might be even the strongest army for now
ParkerWarrior1 until tyranids drop
I saw the configuration on that Wraithknight and knew it was going to be a Guard win. Strength 6 just doesn't cut the mustard in 8th.
오민수 I'm a guard player and I approve of this message.
The new guard codex gave them an increase in buffs and yet a decrease in points, 8th has treated them well so far.
You've inspired me to start collecting Eldar, Luke. Beautiful models, starter box and codex ordered!
lol...enjoy collecting...full painting tutorial on the channel:)
Also preliminary bombardment can only be used at the start of the game
Love your battle reports. You've inspired me to build my own Craftworld army and I'm about 1/3 done. Keep up the great work as always.
great!:)
Great battle report format! I like how narrative you make it, it has the real battle feel - especially how both players really make use of cover for their foot soldiers. Brutal firing going on from both sides.
thanks for the comments:)
Shadowsword +1 to hit "Titanic" units, it WAS 4's to hit. That would have been 2 more hits on the Wraithknight in the first turn of shooting. Also rerolls wounds vs "Titanic"
Sun Cannon is also damage 2, not d3, so it would have been in the third bracket from the Wraithlord shooting. It evens out.
He is an eldar player, wouldn't be right if he wasn't a lord of cheese
What victory points exist are based upon the scenario they played in the rulebook, if you want to blame anybody blame GW. The other things were very minor profile misreadings, which in this case didn't favor him as much as they did.
Did the guard player even meet the requirements for a brigade? I only saw 2 HQ and 2 Elites??
I did miss an Elite (only counted the two Platoon Commanders) but he had 3 HQs: Lord Commissar, Company Commander, and a Tank Commander.
at 35.20 the superheavy tank receives a tank order to reroll the dice when determing the number of attacks. Is this possible ? cause i thought you can only order other lemmans with the tank commander
GreaPal You're right there. Only Russ can receive orders
yes... u can only use this order on leman russes... in the codex it says this about tank orders: This model can issue one order each turn to a friendly Leman russ in the shooting fase... bla bla bla... each leman russ can only be given a single order a turn.
James... Just bring company commanders dont bother with platoon commanders... A company commander is 10 more points then a platoon commander... What ur getting is an extra ORDER, wound and Leadership...
Jan Bos Clearly having a shit load of company commanders running around makes sense. It’s like he picked Platoon commanders intentionally showing a guard chain of command instead of abusing the rules for buffs...
Well, they can be used as elite choices to form a Brigade detachment...
multiple company commanders and no platoon commanders? youll just end up with loads of generals arguing and no-one to actually lead the men!
Håkon Olsen yh... Good point... But look at the list of james... Where do u see 3 elite choices??? I only see 2...
Viridis Lux no cause a company commander is Just an officer with a rank between captain and general...
i mean if ur bringing a super heavy tank... it's kinda nice just for ONLY 30 POINTS get a tech-priest... standing behind the super heavy...
you have to pay for servo arm.... so it's like 42pts, but yea
ah yes, the `tech priest tax` well worth paying.
not to mention the jury rigging stratagem for more repair shenanigans
would make sense:)
Tank Commanders can only issue orders to friendly regiment Leman Russ. Can't order a shadowsword because its commander is probably the same rank as him, lol.
Wow Guard are really bad ass!!! Cracking looking army James. As a tactical tip could you place the big boy out of line of sight for first turn in case you dont get to go first? Not sure if that was possible on this table but as a former Armoured Commander. Always start in cover. Keep them armour boys rolling
Yes Guard are rock solid! Good tips! Thanks for the comments:)
What bit was used for the plasma pistol platoon commander's power sword arm? It looks as if it has two bits cut and spliced together. Also, what bit was used for the Shadowsword crew's head?
Eldar pre-Codex suffered from the same thing afflicting Blood Angels this release. Pre-codex means over costed units resulting in too few models on the table unable to put down dice or absorb wounds. Post-Codex Eldar is completely different story.
true:)
fighting across space and time!
Guard soldier : yeah yeah god!! it's always fighting across space and time with you lot!
#RD
"What I cannot crush with words I will crush with the tanks of the Imperial Guard!"
Lord Commander Solar Macharius
A very accurate, fitting quote!
Nice battrep!
good quote:)
23:20 vehicles have to be 50% obscured AND in terrain to benefit cover. It's been FAQ'd. So no cover save for Shadowsword
Oh a Shadow Sword, well I'm calling Guard Victory. That thing is insanely powerful, I use it all the time now.
Catching up on some missed batreps, glad I saw this one, top notch battle report. Gorgeous models and terrain. Eldar colors very striking. Thanks for sharing
Ok thanks for the comments:) Eldar vs Guard always one of our favourites:)
36:00 You can only give Tank Orders to Leman Russ. So Shadowsword couldn't use Pound them to Dust.
Nice map and beautiful looking deployment from James; all those Guard regiments out front with the tanks lining the back looks quite impressive.
Yeah it just looks so right...real fluffy feel to it...and yet competitive too!:)
This may have already been mentioned but preliminary bombardment has to be used at the very start not mid game (its kinda in the name) u can’t give tank orders to super heavies it’s only russ tanks (this hasn’t changed from the index). The cadian strategy overlapping fields of fire if used would have murdered that knight in turn 1. Nice battle report but lots of errors on the guard side with the rules.
Are there plans out there anywhere for how to build that cathedral? It looks great and I'm wondering how many Basilica Administratums that would require. I have the old Imperial Sector and I'm guessing I could maybe build one wing of that thing.
Club terrain at SSWG...made up from what they had:)
Fantastic battle report as always I didn't expect the end result that gaurd list was strong you where very unlucky with some of your dice rolling I felt sorry for you lol
I really enjoy all of your bat reps, but as I have 10k of each of these armies I especially loved this one. Can’t wait to see more of each of these
Thanks...glad you enjoyed it:)
Hey, great batrep, massive thumbs up!
Guard player myself and I see James making my same errors early in the edition with the superheavy.
1. Cannot get a Cadian Doctrine (reroll 1s) unless taken as part of Supreme Command Detachment or Superheavy Detachment (3superheavies required). See p132 'Regimental Doctrines'.
2. Cannot order the Superheavies from any source. See p89 'Tank Orders'
Even Pask is limited to chatting with Leman Russes.
3. Shadowsword gets '+1 to hit TITANIC models, AND reroll wounds against TITANICs.
Love your batreps, top quality out there! And obvious fun :) O7
thanks. Yes will check rules for that:)
The FAQ is really clear on cover. Every none infantery unit has to be 50% obscured AND in terrain for coverbonus
So did an example build of this on battle scribe and you only had 2 elites as far as i could tell which a brigade would need 3 elites. Did i miss an elite choice during the Guards showing or?
What's the music at 30:40? So familiar
I've had to move 5 hours away from my Iyanden Eldar, so I've only been able to play one game of 8th but it was really fun, hopefully I'll pick up some tips watching these so I don't make any silly mistakes when I get back into it :D
Awww man I saw that coming once I saw the lists. Good win James. Luke I would like others have suggested drop the WK as it just doesn't offer value for points. I think you should bring back the jetbikes as they are quick and offer a lot of shots. Also you defiantly want some wraithblades/guards. UP THE ELDER!!!!!
thanks. Yes...good tips:)
Excited to see this one. I think if I was playing guard I would've taken some rangers so I could pick off his commanders early on
Thought this was new Codex, then I saw the Army. . . looking forward to seeing the new Codex in action!
gotta love the stats on that shadowsword xD
My favorite guard army so far looks like a great fluffy list! I hope they do well I just started watching. So stoked for guard in the new edition, well done James!
Yeah it is a great list James has put together:)
Any reason for not using the new eldar codex?
i was wondering why the eldar army was so tiny!
This was likely recorded before the Codex dropped.
My friend just calculated his old eldar army vs the new one. He got for 500p extra eldars... Which might had made a huge difference in this game. They should replay it.
@Warboss Fraka I guessed that it might be so. However, I'd be veeeeery disappointed in SS shoud there be a batrep featuring the new codex at the paid channel right now.
Filmed before the new book:)
Great game! Lovely terrain. Don't forget, as per the FAQ Grinding Advance doesn't require you to move in order to fire your turret twice. Although I realise this may have been filmed before the FAQ?
yeah before FAQ I think:)
Great looking board and armies as always!
Sentinal:
PLAY OF THE GAME
Oh James, it did my heart good to see your exceptional control of the Guard in this game. Loved your use of the Scout Sentinels, and very effective tactics and performance from your other units as well. You really are becoming a force to be reckoned with in the new edition! Just beware when Luke gets the new Eldar codex; he'll be out for revenge for sure! Great game.
G'day Fenix! How ya Go'n, mate?
........who are you exactly? :P
Pretty good; I'm alive and in good company.
Oh yes...the Eldar won't tolerate this for long!:)
An amazing bat rep as always Sir! you run a very similar list to mine for Eldar in this game. those bright lances are just too good to not take.
Thanks. Working on a new list now:)
Any way you can talk James into giving us a painting tutorial on that camouflage scheme. I did mine in jungle camo, but would definetly give them a dip if James did this.
Same colours as used in IG Painting Tutorial on the channel. Then paint the zig zag pattern with Abandon Black...thinned a little to flow well. Then fill with black. Then neaten and paint zig zag edge with a lighter thinned grey. Then chip up paint work as also shown in IG painting tutorial. Hope this helps. I may well do a painting tutorial for tanks oneday:)
Well done James! A solid victory, mate. To me though it wasn't Eldar Vs Guard. It was Index Vs Codex. Fire and fade would have been interesting with all that cover.... Pointy ears forever!!
Yes...solid win for James! The Eldar will seek their revenge:)
Great fight. Looking forward to seeing which craftworld you choose..
Pls drop the wraith knight on future bat reps such a point sink for nothing would love to see some dark reapers or anything else really
ryan jones WK are very good with the Sword and Board set up or the double Heavy Wraithcannon set up. Just don't pay for secondary weapons.
I had my WK finish Mortarion after the rest of my force only put 5 wounds on the bugger. Damage 6 is no joke.
He was also playing Iyanden with Yriel, the new book has a relic that really buffs sword and board WKs. 8 attacks with reroll hits and Doom is scary. The D3 Mortal Wounds is nothing to worry about.
He just needed to use the new book in this to be honest. Codex vs Index isn't very fair.
Iyandens trait would have helped the WK be more efficient as well.
His lack of Psykers also hurt him as well.
Svejir I'm not saying they can't do work bit in every batrep so far they haven't done anything and eldar have a very diverse army with all the aspect warriors would just be nice too see them now many of them have improved but it's hard to see them in a list when 500 points is on 1 model that can be ok
ryan jones I didn't know he used WKs in every batrep. If that's the case bring on the variety. I'd like to see some deep striking Wraithguard with D Scythes for shenanigans. Jetseer Council is something I wanna try with Ulthwe. The Stratagem synergy with Ulthwe and Eldrad seems nasty.
Fun batrep to watch. Lets see some more wraith units!
you need to remove the wraithknight and throw in some other units.
Or switch to either of the 2 other weapons. Suncannon is the worst and most expensive
i just find it odd how to my eye the dice are often cocked for the eldar player, but the result counts when it's in their favor o.O
I love your battle reports. Just my observations, but to be honest, you have denied your entire psychic phase. Casting Doom from a farseer on that shadowsword would have been reroll all wound rolls. Casting guide on the wraithknight etc. But you need to relook at the benefits of Warlocks in your force. Those runes of battle will supercharge your units or at least nerf theirs In addition, while the shield is worth it for the wraithknight, the cannon i think would be better served by having the 2 normal wraithcannons. Swooping hawks are cheap and 3 units will give wounds on landing and 60 shots to help remove the screens and a battallion and 6 squads of dire avengers and 2 warlocks and a farseer could be added if you removed the wraithknight. Perhaps a 10 girl banshee unit (or 3 x 5 girl units) rather than (my favourite unit) scorpions using strategems to get them up the table and into hand to hand turn 1 vs the guard units. Good game though.
Yes...may well ad a farseer:)
love the intros
What about doing orders for the tank and guard?
You need a Farseer casting Fortune and Doom in your army, replace one of the Autarch's?
New codex would allow Eldar to field Revenant Titan lord of war, inplace of wraightknight :) which would mob up this imperial army, jumping all over the board each turn, shooting everything insight 60" twin pulsars strenght D AP 2 :) 24" missles S5 AP2
For the elder why did you not bring the phantom titan
guard beating elder that was unheard of in 7th edition
Why wouldn't you use the Cadian Stratagem to get +1 to hit with your shadow sword? Not to mention the Shadowsword targeters rule that already gives you a +1 to hit titans
Don't lances have -3 not -4?
The shadowsword has the potential to dish out a maximum of 108 wounds.
Thats me in the thumbnail 😎
Ah, a classic matchup.
Great game guys, loved seeing the Shadowsword in action, it's a real beast. I'd deffo drop the Suncannon combo on the Wraithknight it the weakest one in my opinion. Cheers.
thanks. Yes may rearm the Wrathknight:)
I was compiling a list of suggestions until you said you are using the index rules in this batrep lol... that explains a lot. I would definitely suggest trying to squeeze in some Dark Reapers and Rangers with the extra points you got from the reductions though
Yeah will see what I can add in:)
definitely looking forward to seeing your updated list in future reports
Great vid as usual. Now need a rematch with the new codex!
Yeah!:)
man, those eldar look stunning.
thanks. Full tutorial on the channel:)
Thinking Alaitoc need to rock up and treat the Guard to a long range spanking, also drop the Wraithlords as 8th is yet another copy/paste for them, heck I'd argue even Vypers are better
Really good game.Well played James.
Yeah he did do well:)
the thing to JAMES that sponson's i dont think u should bother just have a heavy botler in the hull... cause u move... ur hitting on 5's (except turret weapon ofc) so dont bother keep them in a way... cheap :)
unless u are do leman russes with battle cannons or tank commanders then u can do it pretty worth it then ^^ otherwise... not really needed :P
My motto is: Get 'em cheap stack 'em deep
Striking Scorpion why didn't you put a crystal targeting matrix on the wave serpent it means you can move with a heavy weapon and not suffer a negative to hit for moving and its only 5 points in the new codex
Buy, you have to target the nearest unit to get that bonus.
Yeah could use that!:)
Nice battle report cheers!
no problem...thanks:)
Unfortunately I think your gonna have to take your army in a whole new direction, maybe drop the wraith Knight for wraith guard with D scythes in wave surpent or use a stragem to use the Web way?
Yeah not sure what to do:)
Definitely switch the sun cannon for the heavy wraith cannons. The sun cannon is like a terrible version of the Gatling gun on the imperial knight. The sword will never be used because most of the time the titanic feet are better.
Also wraithlords are not the best unit. Maybe switch them out for some rangers/hemlock wraithfighter/dark reapers/warp spiders/wraithguard. Also the Alaitoc craftworld is the best.
I like seeing eldar win;)
Yes good advice..planning something like that:)
1:09:22 The vehicles can not go through walls nor climgb the upper levels. Nice game though
Yeah, this rule gets ignored so much both online and in my local play. I can't believe the amount of incredulous looks I get when I tell people they can't do that, or they can't squeeze a tank through a gap that's too narrow for the vehicle, or just roll over obstacles like before. It's IN the rules. Don't give me that 'you're being TFG' look and don't get sassy just because my Dark Eldar stuff flies.
Not my fault you're pleb human tanks can't do things and you deployed poorly.
Do you know what human tank can do though?
Smash the entire wall down. I'd like to see your oversized pirate ships do that.
Shadowsword gets +1 to hit against titanic units. And I'm pretty sure the knight is!
Amazing terrain setup...
thanks:)
I think dark reapers would help you and removing wraithknight and adding some form of support to help the guardians.
@strikingscorpion did you forget seize the initiative?
what u mean? he seized at: 14:04... :)
no, that was a roll to see who goes first, and since he had +1, he got a 7, so James couldnt win
oww yh ... LOL but James would still been able to seize the initative...
i geuss ur right, James did
Yes need to remember to do that. thanks:)
Just curious what rules this guy is using for his shadowsword? since it didn't change from the index (except 3d3 shots instead of 1d6 and -40 point change). it gets plus one to hit against titanic models (would have been a extra hit first turn shooting) and rerolls failed wound rolls against titanic, it DOES NOT get orders or reroll the damage, i literally have no idea where he got that from. Not sure what other rules he messed up since i stopped watching it from there. Hope you had fun!
yh idk they do tend to make some pretty nooby mistakes now and then :/
Battlecannons are the best Russ gun right now.
You can't use yriels (how ever you spell it) whilst embarked in a transport
Great game.
1:18:20. Im pretty sure that 11-2 =9 not 8
Eldar play better off with wairthblades over strike scropeans.
max out on shuriken cannons....assault weapons are the way to go in this edition.
Perfect.
you may want to throw in a few warlocks and farseers
LUKE ! i support u BRING MORE ELDAR DEFENDERS !!
try out war walkers annnd wraith guard annnd fire Prism's annnnd Vaul's Wrath Support Battery annnnd dire Avenger's... the rest i dont care :P
What regiment and relic? I'll just watch and shut up
yh i wonder that too... i guess i'll watch and see if they mention it ^^
I think James was using the Cadian stratagam
Cadian and Kurov's Aquila
Uhh the shadow sword cannon ik -5 nog -3...
Does James have his own YT Channel?
yes jbwargamer87
guard have always been a hard counter for Eldar. Even before they were good.
The shadowsword should have been 4s to hit becuz +1 vs titanic and you cant use the thank order on it..
Hold on a second... How did james fill the brigade detachement...? He has only 2 elite choices... What am i missing here? What is his 3rd elite choice???? Annnnd... Dont u get 9 command points for a brigade? If so... Where did he get 12 command points from?!?
Jan Bos You get +9 for a Brigade so he has the 3 base plus his 9. As for the elites I am not too familiar with guard so I am not sure what his third elite was
He took Platoon Commanders to fill it out on the cheap.
Svejir yh... But only 2... What or where is his 3rd elite choice?????
Jan Bos Oh I dunno. I thought he took three Platoon Commanders.
Your right he only has two elites the platoon commanders, he has 3 HQ (tank commander, Lord Commisar, Company Commander) 6 troops, 3 fast attack (individual Sentinels), 4 heavy (two leman russ, two HWS) and the Lord of War.
The wraithknight has a 5+ feel no pain!!!! This is just painful to watch!!!
Such a great channel. Please start a DA list.
Thanks. Yeah I do plan on revamping my DE list in the near future...when the codex arrives:)
LivingHistory82 Dark Angels sir. Not Dark Eldar.
lol ok. Yes hope to in the future:)
Wait a minute.... this is the same music criminally listed opens with.... did you steal that?? I mean I love both channels cuz it has my 2 favorite things... warhammer and mysterious murders. All y'all here UA-cam criminally listed and listen to his opening then compare that to this. It's exactly the same!
Where is the new Eldar codex !!!!!
ASMR
How can you make so many mistakes on your Shadowsword? You forget your anti titanic rules +1 to hit titanic units with all weapons and re-roll wound with main gun against titanic, also you can only use Tank orders on Leman Russ models not Baneblades. Also are these battleforged armies? If so the guard player needs a Supreme command detachment if he wants a regimental bonus for his shadowsword. Preliminary bombardment can't be used mid game but before first turn only. Then again the Eldar player made mistakes aswell so its shame and blame on both sides. Also why keep the destroyed vehicles on board? 8th ed just removes them regardless of whether they explode, but sure it looks a bit cool. Rules and such aside , great match!
Hello, beautifull battle, very impressive armies and table ! Always nice to watch your battle reports.a
In v7 Eldar had won, the Astra militarum is hardest army list now!
(Sorry for my english, I'm french)