Tesla - Ultimate Home Charging Guide

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  • @MTNRanger
    @MTNRanger  Рік тому +3

    The biggest change since I have done this video is the release of the Tesla Universal Wall Connector which supports both Tesla NACS and J1772 charging ports. This may be the best solution to support all EVs as the transition to NACS takes place.

  • @alintiniuc
    @alintiniuc 2 роки тому +62

    Need this guy to come to my house and turn my garage into what he’s got.
    Amazing job!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +7

      Thanks! I have a whole video playlist on the garage construction, check it out. I did the interior myself and it was quite a lot of work.

  • @mikeho1871
    @mikeho1871 10 місяців тому +7

    This is the most thorough video I’ve seen. Thank you

  • @billg2345
    @billg2345 Рік тому +5

    Hands down the best video for understanding to get going on charging. Just wish I watched yours first.

  • @sdakshin1
    @sdakshin1 Рік тому +5

    Finally found the single no nonsense video that clearly articulates the charging options for Tesla, thanks!!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      I limit the "entertainment" since other people do that better than me.

  • @JamesThompson-fb2bc
    @JamesThompson-fb2bc 2 роки тому +13

    Excellent job explaining the different charging solutions. As the owner of an electrical contracting company for several decades before retiring, it is refreshing to see a video with correct information using proper terminology. You struck a good balance between providing enough detail for proper understanding without becoming unnecessarily over complicated. You also offer good advice by recommending the homeowner consult a professional electrician. Improper installations can be dangerous to your home and family! Thumbs up on this video.
    I personally chose to install a Tesla wall connector fed with a 60A circuit for my MYLR even though a lower cost option would have worked fine with my relatively low daily mileage average. I wanted to keep the Gen 2 mobile connector in the car at all times "just in case", without the hassle of rolling up the cord and restoring it to the vehicle each time I decide to go somewhere. I could have just purchased a second Gen 2 mobile connector, but I decided it was worth it to me to spend just a little more and install the very attractive Tesla wall connector with the added benefit of slightly higher charging speeds.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Thanks, it's hard to balance information overload with ease of understanding. As it is it's one of my longer videos - I try to keep them under 10 minutes without filler. There is a lot more electrical detail I could go into, but that bogs things down.

  • @vistagraphsnet
    @vistagraphsnet 2 роки тому +10

    AND IF YOU ARE OFF-GRID HERE IS HOW i charge my Model 3 long range. Three 300 watt solar panels fed into a Renogy 60 amp MPPT charge controller. Charging 5 Battle Born deep cycle 100 amp batteries. And a Renogy 2000 watt inverter. I get 6 miles of range every hour from 9:00 am until 4:00 PM. (No shade on the panels but I do point one slightly toward the east and one slightly toward the west with the middle panel strait up on my flat roof.) True the upfront cost was expensive but no electric bill and no worries when the grid goes down. Cost about $6200.

  • @CGSPES
    @CGSPES 11 місяців тому +2

    Very clear and pertinent info on the entire charging issue. Helpful in making my decision. And I want a garage as neat and clean as yours.

  • @blueacquisitions7262
    @blueacquisitions7262 6 місяців тому +1

    I am close to picking up a MY and was sooo confused regarding charging. Seen a whole bunch of vids and this is the best there is. Thank you so much for such a thorough explanation! Immediately Subscribed!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  6 місяців тому

      @@blueacquisitions7262 Enjoy the new car!

  • @hannarye
    @hannarye 2 роки тому +4

    Got to love those "Spear" circuits.... LOL

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      I was wondering if anyone was going to notice. I'm guessing the electrician didn't do well on his spelling bees!

  • @sydneyg007
    @sydneyg007 2 роки тому +9

    Really good video! Well done! Finally a video on charging that uses the correct terminology - most videos I have seen always refer to an EVSE as a home charger and confuses people into thinking they need to install a "Home Charger". Also, really well done in explaining how fast you will need to charge depending on your everyday use!

  • @kauigirl808
    @kauigirl808 2 роки тому +65

    I got the Tesla charger installed. Now all I need is a Tesla. 😂

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +4

      Good luck!

    • @i0x_x0i
      @i0x_x0i Рік тому

      It sounds like you got a dildo before getting a bf

    • @Channel323
      @Channel323 Рік тому +4

      Ever get that Tesla? That’s sounds like something I would do…lol… I can’t wait to get mine…

    • @wascarg5341
      @wascarg5341 Рік тому +4

      Lol 😂 I am working on my wall connection next will be deciding which Tesla to get 😅

    • @kauigirl808
      @kauigirl808 Рік тому

      No tesla yet because I don't make enough to qualify for the tax credit. 😭

  • @Scandal247
    @Scandal247 Рік тому +2

    This came in so handy, thank you! Just got the NEMA 14-50 outlet installed in my garage and looks like it was the best choice

  • @_lslc
    @_lslc 2 роки тому +2

    This is a dream garage! Your garage, card and all tools are so clean and well organized 👌

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much. It was my goal for this new garage build. I did the interior myself (other than the ceiling drywall). Check out the playlist that covers all the different parts.

  • @MindofMatter
    @MindofMatter 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this great, clear, calm, organized and informative video. Well done!
    Bonus b-roll of the North Hills area and my old haunts was a nice bonus as well :)

  • @isacbrilingtton8585
    @isacbrilingtton8585 Місяць тому

    By the way, the video is great. I’ve learned a lot and thank you so much.

  • @geteducatedbyTed
    @geteducatedbyTed Рік тому

    If you install a NEMA 14-50 or NEMA 6-50, make sure you choose the right one or you may be at risk of a fire. ua-cam.com/video/rKFGW2LfMEg/v-deo.html

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Yes, my NEMA 14-50 and 14-30 installation videos talk about using industrial outlets and proper wire torquing.

    • @geteducatedbyTed
      @geteducatedbyTed Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger Not everyone mentions these industrial outlets. Also agree on torquing specs

  • @EagleWolfSparrow
    @EagleWolfSparrow 2 роки тому +2

    This is the BEST video showing the charging lol you made me wanna buy a Electric car now...even with 120V 8 hours = 30+ miles... that's enough for daily work

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Thank you!

    • @bigdavedayday1581
      @bigdavedayday1581 2 роки тому +1

      This would work for me since i only drive maybe 30 miles round trip to work. All i need now is a Tesla, charger and house with nice garage

    • @Theboardsurfer
      @Theboardsurfer Рік тому

      I’m usually plugged in from 7pm to 7am, so with my 120V charging, I get about 4mi/hr. So 12 x 4 = 48 miles per night is plenty for me!

  • @CharlieLiuPhotography
    @CharlieLiuPhotography 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for speaking slowly and annunciating every word. It was every easy to follow and to understand. :)

  • @new_nonsense
    @new_nonsense Рік тому

    Nice video on how to organize a garage!

  • @guyfioreii8901
    @guyfioreii8901 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding in depth content. Thank you

  • @That-Guy_
    @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому +1

    Got a splitter for the Nema 14-30 dryer outlet and ran an extension over to the car charger.

    • @nghiaho535
      @nghiaho535 2 роки тому

      Hi. Do you have to put the extension cable in the conduit? How long is your ext. Cable? Thanks.

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@nghiaho535
      No just keep it off the floor
      I used some nail in mounts to run it up the wall and a bike hanging hook in the ceiling
      You may not need the extension if your dryer is in the garage. Mine is in a separate room so i made a hole in the wall to run the extension through.
      You can get 10ft, 25ft, or 50ft extensions on amazon.
      What is your situation like?

  • @BroncoPH
    @BroncoPH Рік тому

    Holy garage envy. Thanks for the great video.

  • @Hioncodered
    @Hioncodered Рік тому

    Just got a Model Y! Thank you for the help video!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Good luck, you will enjoy it!

  • @GreggK6EGG
    @GreggK6EGG 2 роки тому +1

    thanks for explaining this very easy!

  • @sunshadow9704
    @sunshadow9704 11 місяців тому

    you are the best in this field. Thank you.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  11 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words! I will do an version two of this video when bi-directional charging gets popular.

  • @joelhensel358
    @joelhensel358 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this video! Can you please tell me about your interior garage walls and flooring. I've never seen anything like it. Love it!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  9 місяців тому

      Thanks! I have a whole video series on the garage construction. I have Proslat slatwall (ua-cam.com/video/sYKw60q2tcU/v-deo.html) and Swisstrax Ribtrax Smooth (ua-cam.com/video/fU59qZ5vdY0/v-deo.html) installed.

  • @jz319
    @jz319 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the thorough explanation !! Most detailed I’ve seen on UA-cam. 😊

  • @mowcowbell
    @mowcowbell 10 місяців тому

    Tesla now bundles the NEMA 5-15 and 14-50 adapters with the mobile connector kit ($250). I ordered one when I ordered my '24 Tesla Model Y Long Range this week.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  10 місяців тому +1

      That's good that Tesla is including both adapters.

  • @tivprtnr7535
    @tivprtnr7535 Рік тому

    Great video - love the garage! If possible, can you send the link of how you finished your garage? The material looks sturdy and has a beautiful finish! Being able to add hooks wall to wall is a huge plus and only adds value to the house! Great job!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      I have a whole video playlist covering the garage. ua-cam.com/play/PL3KGLh_BqvV6i1jcVJYBkD0tVn4KLbx6V.html , especially Parts 10/11/12.

  • @onetrickdva3069
    @onetrickdva3069 Рік тому

    When I get the red Tesla Model 3 when I’m 16 or 17 I’m gonna charge my Tesla anywhere with my mobile connecter and I will get both the Mobile connecter and the Wall connecter

  • @james5360
    @james5360 2 роки тому

    Call the nearest junkyard and inquire if the have the portable connector provided with the car until recently. Most will have a few available.
    Food for thought

  • @PeterIllini85
    @PeterIllini85 2 роки тому +1

    thanks for the tips. For road trips, it would seem that using a slower v2 supercharger is better for the battery than a v3 supercharger. It will take 5-10 more minutes.

  • @DavidSpector
    @DavidSpector 2 роки тому +5

    Great video! Unfortunately the house I rent is so old that the panel cant handle the faster charging. Trickle charging has been working fine for me as I drive about 50 miles a day. There are enough superchargers close by like the one in North hills if I need a quick charge.

    • @brianrautiainen5473
      @brianrautiainen5473 11 місяців тому

      Maybe as a renter you should look at Neocharge or split volt. Using the 240 volt dryer receptacle gives you ability to charge at level 2 with 24 amp

  • @SldOnEmWithDa45
    @SldOnEmWithDa45 Рік тому +2

    So on average, how much this increase your electricity bill by?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      For the last 5 years, my average monthly electricity for the car is $33.

  • @L3x4Pr0ne
    @L3x4Pr0ne Рік тому

    Great video explanation.

  • @pauld6967
    @pauld6967 Рік тому

    I like that you pointed out at the end of the 3rd section that the Model 3 is limited to 32A regardless of the wall connector.
    I am looking at a Model 3 but that limitation doesn't cause any issue with me as the wall charger for my non-Tesla is only a 32A unit.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      It depends on the Model 3. Standard range is limited to 32 A by the onboard charger. However, Long Range and AWD has a 48 A onboard charger. If you have a gen 2 mobile connector it’s limited to 32 A on either car.

    • @pauld6967
      @pauld6967 Рік тому +1

      @@MTNRanger Oh no, I am not wasting money on a long range or performance version.
      The standard, rwd, version suits my daily driving needs just fine and I am keeping a regular vehicle for those situations where covering significant range without any long delays is a factor.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      @@pauld6967 Sure, everyone has different needs. I’m at the point where I take my car on every long distance trip now. Usually the car is done charging before everyone has finished their bio break or bought food. My last trip a couple weeks ago required 10-15 minute stops to charge.

    • @pauld6967
      @pauld6967 Рік тому +1

      @@MTNRanger I have seen from this and other videos that quick, just-what-you-need, charges make more sense for overall trip time than standing around waiting while the car fights its way up the 80% to 100% hill.
      Better to charge from 10% to 50% or so and get back on the road. Keep the "fill her up" charging session as something you do at your final destination.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      @@pauld6967 Yes, after five years of driving it I’m comfortable going down to 5% and charging up to 50-60% on trips. Then destination charge at a hotel when I arrive.

  • @davidneuzil9356
    @davidneuzil9356 Рік тому

    Thank you for the video, answered all my questions. God bless.

  • @roberte.herrera1532
    @roberte.herrera1532 2 роки тому +1

    superb Video!..
    Thanks

  • @aussietaipan8700
    @aussietaipan8700 Рік тому

    I think you have answered my issue. In Australia we only have 240V and I have installed a Gen 3 wall charger for my model S. The circuit breaker is 32 amp and the car only has a max charge rate of 16 amps. This is most likely due to the 32 amp breaker. I will test this at my holiday house next week, it also has a Gen 3 charger with a breaker at 40 amps.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      If the circuit breaker is 30 A, then the wall connector should be set to 24 A. Possibly it was not set up correctly. Page 3 of the manual mentions how to adjust breaker size setting: www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/support/charging/Gen3_WallConnector_Installation_Manual.pdf

  • @johnreese3762
    @johnreese3762 Рік тому

    Very well done, thanks!!

  • @Don_duex
    @Don_duex 2 роки тому

    Were you always the perfect person for this video!? Lol where did all these outlets come from?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      You mean the outlets in my garage? I did have a lot installed.

  • @jonathansmith283
    @jonathansmith283 Рік тому

    we just purchased a Y 2023 yesterday ,from mt Kisco. we live in CT. . we did not get any charging device .we are trying to understand the system - the options. your video will give us more of an understanding . ~ JDS/CT. thanks

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      You’re welcome. Enjoy the new Y!

  • @myetoob23
    @myetoob23 Рік тому

    I've found myself in a bit of a pickle and need clarification to understand what I'm dealing with.. I just had an electrician install a breaker into the panel and a 30' SO(?) cord which ends in a free hanging 14-50 outlet that I'm going to pull outside of the garage when I need to charge, to match up with the 14-50 adapter that I ordered from Tesla. I thought we were both on the same page about what setup I wanted installed, which would be to get the most power I can as quickly and safely as possible without installing a wall unit since we're renting the house. It wasn't until the very end that I realized that the breaker was a 30 amp breaker and figured that wouldn't be able to support 32A being pulled like I see in this video being possible.
    He said the reason why he went with that and a 10 gauge cable was because the adapter itself says it's rated for 30A and that's what he was basing the whole setup on, to prevent overloading anything.
    Which confuses me because it seems the last number in the NEMA adapter stands for the amount of amperage it should be able to handle, which in this case should be 50, right? If so, why does the adapter say otherwise on the inside of the plug? Is it not safe to repeatedly use at 32A for prolonged periods of time? Using the 80% equation, it could be linked up to as low as a 40 amp breaker and still get the full flow to charge the car at 32A, but that would be higher than what the adapter is rated for.
    Now I have a cable and breaker that is more suited for a 14-30 plug and it seems I won't get the full charging capability I was hoping for and thought I was getting installed.
    I fully understand the electrician's reasoning for the material and parts he got, he did it with safety in mind based on the ratings printed on the Tesla parts. But doesn't this mean I'm only going to get up to a 24A current? Because if that's the case that's not what I wanted or asked for. He said he's done quite a few installations for other Tesla owners so I trust his experience, but is there something he doesn't know that you do MTN Ranger? What is it that would limit the car from drawing the full 30A from the setup I now have using the 14-50 adapter, or would it be safe to do so? Should I have him come back out and redo the installation in order to get the max potential from that plug?
    Sorry for the lengthy post, just want to make sure I can get my head wrapped around all this stuff that's very new to me!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      I think the electrician was overthinking it. He should have just used a 6 gauge wire, 50 amp breaker, and a NEMA 14-50 outlet. The mobile connector will only use 32 out of the 50 amps. The manual also states that it supports up to 32 amps. www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/charging_docs/gen_2_umc/Gen2_UMC_Manual_en_US.pdf I've used mine for almost five years with no issues. Someday if you replace that mobile connector with, say a corded mobile connector (supports 40 A), it will give you a bit extra power. shop.tesla.com/product/corded-mobile-connector

    • @myetoob23
      @myetoob23 Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger thanks for the info. Now, does the connector or car automatically regulate the charging amperage to 80% of the breaker? Or would I still be able to pull the full 30A through my setup?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      @@myetoob23 It depends which EVSE you are using. For example if you use a J1772 40A EVSE with a NEMA 14-50 to 14-30 adapter for an 14-30 outlet, the car will not know that the max should be 24 instead of 40 A. You have to limit that in the car's charge screen. I haven't tried to do the same thing with a mobile connector. I'll test that out for you. Stay tuned.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      @@myetoob23 OK, testing a gen 1 MC (40A) with a NEMA 14-50 connected to a 14-50 to 14-30 adapter and plugged into a NEMA 14-30 outlet. When going to the car’s screen it shows a max of 40A - which I quickly turned down to 24A. So the car only knows the max A of the Mobile Connector with the NEMA 14-50 plug. It has no idea if an adapter or lower amp outlet like a NEMA 14-30 is connected. So you have to be very careful!
      ua-cam.com/users/shorts73mmbfGsZQA

  • @surferdude642
    @surferdude642 6 місяців тому

    If you're using a 15 amp 120 volt circuit and it's shared (not dedicated) with other receptacles and possibly other loads, will the Tesla software detect that and reduce the current supplied to the charger accordingly? For example, if 3 amps are already being drawn, will the charging be reduced to 13 amps in order to maintain the 80% safety margin for the circuit? BTW, man o man, I love your garage, looks great.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  6 місяців тому

      No, neither the mobile connector nor the car knows what is on a circuit. It's always best to use a dedicated circuit or at least verify nothing else is running on it. Or set the amp level in the car to a lower number - for example 5 instead of 12 amps.

    • @surferdude642
      @surferdude642 6 місяців тому

      ​@@MTNRangerActually, I watched again, and you basically answered my question at around 8:05. I appreciate your quick response, good to know.

  • @SamA-wd2sf
    @SamA-wd2sf 2 роки тому

    Thanks for all the great information. I love the garage. Do you have a video on the garage walls?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Sure, I have a whole playlist on the garage construction. Here is the wall video: ua-cam.com/video/sYKw60q2tcU/v-deo.html

  • @Motokids13
    @Motokids13 8 місяців тому

    Always nice to have a Spear breaker

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  8 місяців тому

      50 A is a powerful spear. I'm sure the electrician chose the correct rating.

  • @christiantarragon6383
    @christiantarragon6383 2 роки тому

    Using a DCC-12 (Energy management system for electric vehicle) is also an option instead of the panel upgrade.

    • @haileyRae525
      @haileyRae525 2 роки тому

      Can you explain what a DDC-12 is. My house is soooo old, I only have a 100 watt panel

  • @isacbrilingtton8585
    @isacbrilingtton8585 Місяць тому

    I am planning to buy either an aftermarket charger or Tesla charger, but I’m gonna plug it in to my dryer outlet. The question is how long of an extension cord can I use and not causing any trouble

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Місяць тому

      @@isacbrilingtton8585 How far is the car from the outlet? I use this extension cord in my garage. No issues after several years. amzn.to/3VdAXMq

  • @jkcurti
    @jkcurti 2 роки тому

    Best video on Charging Options I've seen. Update: I saw a recent video about a 20kW system by Tesla. Not sure if that was accurate, but it seemed legit.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      I have heard some third parties that offer DC fast charging solutions that do 20kW, but they are using CHAdeMO or CCS. 20kW is more than AC charging can provide. DC charging is outside the scope of this video. If you have a link that shows Tesla doing it, I would like to see it. Thanks!

    • @jkcurti
      @jkcurti 2 роки тому

      @@MTNRanger So far the guy I saw was an installer on a UA-cam channel. It was a DC type. I am fairly certain it ran off of 480 AC.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      @@jkcurti Yes, that will be restricted to commercial since residential is usually max of 240 AC. And you would need the CHAdeMO or CCS adapter to work.

  • @jmtm-d1q
    @jmtm-d1q Рік тому

    You have a sick garage

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Thanks, it took a few months of work! I have a playlist on it (especially parts 7-12):
      ua-cam.com/play/PL3KGLh_BqvV6i1jcVJYBkD0tVn4KLbx6V.html

  • @jefferrrson1x
    @jefferrrson1x Рік тому

    Amazing stuff sir!!! Thank you so much.

  • @gerssonmartell
    @gerssonmartell 2 роки тому

    great video! Thank you!

  • @AliBaba-z3t9w
    @AliBaba-z3t9w Рік тому +1

    I wish I watched this video before I installed my wall connector.

  • @Chainyanker007
    @Chainyanker007 2 роки тому

    Where you live, whether you own your own home, house location and orientation, electrical usage, income, electric rates and any solar panel incentives from your utility also are factors to consider if solar panels are a viable option for you. In my case my modest solar panel system, 3.6kW, along with EV TOU rates and net metering, sunny SCal climate means my Tesla and a heat pump system for heating/AC all run on sunshine. Ymmv.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Where you electricity comes from is out of the scope of this video. But, yes, it is a major consideration for owners. For example, I would love to have solar, but my house is basically in a forest. I do pay for solar credits from my electricity company that covers my average use.

  • @krisevon
    @krisevon 10 місяців тому

    Do I have to set the amps each time I charge at different locations/options? Not a big deal once I settle on a home charger I guess

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  10 місяців тому +1

      It remembers your location. You may have to set if for the first time. If you use the correct plugs and outlets, it should max out with those capabilities. For example using the NEMA 14-30 it should not go above 24 A. However, if you use adapters like a NEMA 14-50 to 14-30, the EVSE will erroneously think it can use the full 40 A. Then you would need to set that 24 A in the car. It's always good to double check when using.

    • @krisevon
      @krisevon 10 місяців тому

      Good to know. I think 14-30 will be ok for my needs and I have a spare 40 amp (switch from an electric to a gas stove) so I assume that will be a simple wire out to the garage with the outlet. I’ll go through a telsa recommended installer once I get closer to making a decision overall. Thanks

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  10 місяців тому

      @@krisevonSounds good to me.

  • @ricob948
    @ricob948 2 роки тому

    Excellent video thank you

  • @mrVP96
    @mrVP96 7 місяців тому

    My electrician approved me to either wire a NEMA 14-30 with 30 amp breaker, or install the wall charger with a 30 amp breaker.. I have a 100 amp breaker with gas washer/dryer/kitchen appliances, and a central AC unit. which option would you reccomend?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  7 місяців тому

      I find my NEMA 14-30 (24 A) works fine with either of my EVs. I end up charging roughly once or twice a week. If you already have the wall connector, you probably should get the hard wired option. Is the price the same for either choice?

    • @mrVP96
      @mrVP96 7 місяців тому

      @MTNRanger yes he gave me the same quoted price to install the 14-30 or the wall connector, but either way would be hooked up to a 30 amp switch. I think I'll be good getting the average 21 mph with that speed but haven't purchased the mobile connector or wall charger yet as I'm still confused which would be the better option

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  7 місяців тому +1

      @@mrVP96 It's up to you, both give you the same charge rate. I would just get the mobile connector and the NEMA 14-30 since it would be the least cost. Then if you need to travel, you can take the mobile connector with you.

    • @mrVP96
      @mrVP96 7 місяців тому

      @MTNRanger that's true, I was also maybe factoring if down the road I upload my panel or even if I upload my switch to maybe 40 amps, then it's a quick change with the wall connector vs getting the plug. On the other end the nema would be constant 30 amps, but not sure if the wall connector would ever glitch out or restart itself where it defaults back to 60 amp charging

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  7 місяців тому +1

      @@mrVP96 The Wall Connector has a physical switch inside it that determines the max amp level. One way to future proof your setup is to use the thickest gauge wire (4 gauge Romex or 6 gauge thnn). So in the future, an electrician just needs to swap out the breaker. Running the wiring is usually the most expensive part of an installation.

  • @onetrickdva3069
    @onetrickdva3069 Рік тому

    If you turn on the switch for the Tesla wall connector you’re gonna see some colors, Red means that something is wrong, Yellow means that charger isn’t plugged in all the way.

  • @theodorerzepski8491
    @theodorerzepski8491 Рік тому

    We have a Tesla Y on order. We don't have a garage. Can we mount a fixed Tesla safely on the side of our house? Thanks

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      The best bet for exterior installations is a hard-wired wall connector. If you use mobile connector with a weatherproof exterior outlet.

  • @photofusionart
    @photofusionart 2 роки тому +1

    Do you keep the home charger plugged into the outlet even when not charging the Tesla? is that ok?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      Yes. Repeated plugging/unplugging can wear out the outlets. Only remove if you need to move the unit.

  • @rockelino
    @rockelino 2 роки тому +1

    Here's the setup I have in my home - there's a NEMA 14-50 outlet near my breaker box outside the garage. If I want to use it to charge, I have to use an extension cord (50 Amp extension cord). Would that be safe? Otherwise, I would have to plug the mobile connector outside the garage - is that a safe thing to do?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +2

      For 120V using a 10 or 12 gauge extension works fine. I don’t recommend using an extension cord for 240 V.

  • @Ojeramup12
    @Ojeramup12 9 місяців тому

    Before calling an electrician check your panel and see if you ave any breakers that are NOT being used but were installed by the builder. For example, do you already have an electrical receptacle to your ELECTRIC water heater but use GAS? This breaker is not used and the wires are already there. You just need the receptacle Nema 10-30. This will work for a 10-30 connection to charge EV.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  9 місяців тому

      Yes, it's good to check for unused breakers. NEMA 10-30 is not a common EVSE plug. I recommend 14-30, which I use.

    • @Ojeramup12
      @Ojeramup12 9 місяців тому

      @@MTNRanger Good to know, thanks.

  • @peterpiper3790
    @peterpiper3790 10 місяців тому

    If my panel has a spot reserved for 240v 30A dryer, I can use that space to charge my Tesla right?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  10 місяців тому

      Sure, use a NEMA 14-30 outlet (make sure it's industrial grade) and you can charge at 24 Amps. And hopefully the wiring goes to your garage! I use that in one of my two garage charging setups.

    • @peterpiper3790
      @peterpiper3790 10 місяців тому

      @@MTNRanger how do I make sure it’s industrial grade? What’s that mean

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  10 місяців тому

      @@peterpiper3790In the video description it lists NEMA 14-50. Industrial are heavy grade to allow for repeated plugging/unplugging. Also thicker wire connectors. Here is a NEMA 14-30 example: www.mscdirect.com/product/details/74366386 or www.mscdirect.com/product/details/10092641

    • @peterpiper3790
      @peterpiper3790 10 місяців тому

      @@MTNRanger thanks bro

  • @chuckjames7745
    @chuckjames7745 Рік тому

    What is the plug on the other end connect to?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Can you give me the timelink in the video to understand what you mean?

  • @hgames888
    @hgames888 Рік тому +1

    1:45 for anyone who doesn’t know this and is buying a new Tesla, they don’t come free with a charger/ whatever he called it.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      Yes, Tesla stopped giving the mobile connector with the car a month or so after this video came out.

    • @hgames888
      @hgames888 Рік тому +1

      @@MTNRanger Ty for the heart, I saw it was from a year ago so I figured it was still included with the car then.

  • @danno88
    @danno88 2 роки тому

    At 9:45 you show a metal bracket that you use to support the portable charger. Where can I find this bracket?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Sure, look at the second link in the video description.

  • @nnnsp
    @nnnsp 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the informative video! I read that charging with 120V would use more energy / kwh compared to 240v. Is that true? Also would the energy use be different for all the 240V options?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +2

      Yes, 240V is more efficient. The difference is around 8-10%. As to the difference between different 240V options, they are very similar. More detail in this link: www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/fsnjzm/model_3_factfinding_ac_charging_efficiency/

  • @UsernameCode
    @UsernameCode 2 роки тому

    Hi, 11:55. You said when you plug in the mobile charger, your car will designate the max amp that you should set when charging. Am I understanding that correctly? Thank you!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      At this point in the video, I was using the NEMA 5-20 which can handle 16 amps. I had to increase the car’s level since it was previously using the NEMA 5-15 which maxes out at 12 amps. If I plug in the mobile connector later, the car will remember the higher amp level. Does that help?

    • @UsernameCode
      @UsernameCode 2 роки тому

      @@MTNRanger Yes, it does. Thank you!

  • @joelitespeed
    @joelitespeed 2 роки тому

    great video, planning my home charging while waiting on my MYP

  • @mitchellgross6982
    @mitchellgross6982 2 роки тому

    I'm renting a house and cant park in the garage. What is the maximum extension or just straight cord I can obtain and use? I'd estimate about 40 ft should do it.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      Extension cords are okay for temporary use. If you need a 50 foot cord, make sure it is 10 gauge - less voltage drop and less heat buildup. For less than 50 feet, 12 gauge is fine. amzn.to/3KETvwT

    • @mitchellgross6982
      @mitchellgross6982 2 роки тому

      Thanks!

  • @isacbrilingtton8585
    @isacbrilingtton8585 Місяць тому

    Because the distance from the dryer outlet to outside of my garage is gonna be 30 to 35 feet and I have a Tesla Y 2025

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Місяць тому

      @@isacbrilingtton8585 For really long distances, it may be better to have an electrician run a new circuit to the location you need. Temporarily you could use an extension. If the car is charging outside, it may be better to install an EVSE on the outside of the house.

  • @nghiaho535
    @nghiaho535 2 роки тому

    I have a 240 outlet in my garage for the dryer and Idont use it since my dryer is a gas type. I checked the wires at the outlet and they are 6 gauge Aluminum and the circuit breaker set for it is 30AMP.
    My question is since the wires #6 are rated at 55AMP; therefore, can I change the outlet to the 14-50 so I can charge my M3 at 30mi/hour. My other 240V outlets are at 40AMP for the AC and 30AMP for the oven and I have a 100AMP service panel.
    Should I go for the 14-50 or stay at the 14-30?
    Thank you in advance for the adcives.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      6 Gauge Aluminum for a 30A outlet is fine. The rule of thumb is that aluminum is equivalent to one grade smaller copper (6 gauge aluminum = 8 gauge copper). I would not use it for a NEMA 14-50 and a 50A breaker. See how your car works with the NEMA 14-30.

    • @marksweeting24
      @marksweeting24 Рік тому

      You should also change out the receptacle. Most of them installed for dyers are cheaper box store ($15 ) and are not designed for the continuous load of EVSEs. They are finding a lot of overheating and melting. Commercial grade outlets are necessary. In many areas they are adopting the new code that requires a gfci breaker as well. And, most manuals state the need for 90 degree copper wire.

    • @nghiaho535
      @nghiaho535 Рік тому +1

      @@MTNRanger Thanks! I checked again and found that the Aluminum wires are #4 not #6.

    • @nghiaho535
      @nghiaho535 Рік тому

      @@marksweeting24 Thanks!. Yes I did use the $100+ Hubbell plug.

  • @wichion
    @wichion Рік тому

    I have a model Y which can only charge up to 11kw ac. Is it normal?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      Yes, 11.5 kW (48 A x 240 V) is the max for all recent Tesla vehicles.

  • @stargazer2504
    @stargazer2504 Рік тому

    If you're running wire and adding a circuit, make sure you run #4 THHN or THWN wire in 1" conduit all the way from the CB panel to the charging port. That's the only way to safely and legally get 48 amps of charging- and hardwire the Tesla charger port. If you want to use an "outlet", then get the Hubbell 4950 industrial outlet. Don't cheap out. Pay the $100 for the outlet. You've already paid 75k for the car so what's another $500 in proper wire & such?
    EVERY DAY fire departments are responding to car fires because of poor charging set ups.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I have a video that discusses how to install the NEMA 14-50 and I definitely suggest using the industrial grade outlets. Wiring can also depend on your location. Everything in my area uses romex for outlets and direct wire for code when my garage was built two years ago. Nothing wrong with either type.

    • @stargazer2504
      @stargazer2504 Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger True, and I ran 6/3 Romex for mine. But afterward, I found that a "Tesla certified" charger needs the 48 amp capability. With the 80% rule, that would require #4 THHN and a 65A breaker (they don't make a 55A breaker).
      Yes, 6/3 Romex **can** handle the 50 amps but the Tesla Certified port would be better.
      Go big or go home. Just pay the extra $200 for the upgraded wire / conduit. It will supply anything in the next 20 years.

    • @stargazer2504
      @stargazer2504 Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger Also- look for rebates- local, state, federal AND the power company rebates. That alone may pay for ALL of this wiring and such!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      @@stargazer2504 80% of 60 A gets you 48 A max that the Wall Connector would require. You need a 60A breaker. For a short run 6/3 is fine. Yes, long runs, 4/3 is appropriate. I agree, it's better to oversize for future proofing too.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      @@stargazer2504 Yes, I also got some very good federal tax credits for installing 2 solar attic fans and replacing ceiling insulation this past summer in my house.

  • @flyingjeff1984
    @flyingjeff1984 Рік тому

    Apparently, none of the above comes with the car any longer. Optional extras. "You like the wagon? You want wheels with it?"

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Yes, I mentioned that in come of the other comments. Tesla discontinued including them about a month after the video was made.

  • @resolvingconcerns
    @resolvingconcerns 2 роки тому

    I've seen many recommendations for 60 amp. I'm getting a model Y. Is 60 amp overkill for new model Ys (if we wire directly from box)??? Thanks!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      60 A is good if you want to use a hardwired connection for a Tesla Wall Connector or other 48 A EVSE. It will charge about 20% faster than a NEMA 14-50 at 40 A (with a compatible EVSE). If you need to do a 0-100% charge every day, then the 60 A will be nice to have. Otherwise, personally it is kind of overkill. It's up to you and if you have the capacity on your electrical panel.

  • @zendannyy
    @zendannyy 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the great video!
    Can you talk about the rough cost estimate on electric bill for using 14-50 with no solar panels?
    Thank you

  • @hudsmack
    @hudsmack 2 роки тому

    I have 200-amp service, but had to have a 60-amp sub-panel installed to support the Tesla wall connector. Electrician confirmed the line coming into my house was the proper gauge to support the additional draw. If this is not the case, this job gets WAY more expensive.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      You did the right thing. Like I said, get an electrician to see if you can support a 60A breaker - it's a lot of continuous usage to handle.

  • @Kyle_702
    @Kyle_702 2 роки тому

    You can’t buy a gen 1 charger anymore? Why do they still have it listed on the website

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Gen 1 mobile connector. Show me a link. Tesla hasn't sold them in over five years.

  • @d_lac01o48
    @d_lac01o48 2 роки тому

    Great video! I take delivery this coming June for a model 3. I'm extremely excited! Off curiosity, where did you get your grey wall liners in your garage? That looks awesome!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks, I did a full playlist for the garage construction. This is the one for the walls: Proslat Slatwall
      ua-cam.com/video/sYKw60q2tcU/v-deo.html

    • @d_lac01o48
      @d_lac01o48 2 роки тому

      @@MTNRanger thanks!!

  • @Noogie5555
    @Noogie5555 2 роки тому

    I am about to get a Tesla wall connector installed. For maximum performance, do you recommend using 4 or 6 gauge wire with a 60 amp circuit breaker?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      I would lean towards 4 gauge wire for a 60A breaker. Less resistance means less heat that can develop. It can also reduce voltage sag, especially if you are going a longer distance. How far is it from the breaker to the proposed Wall Connector?

    • @Noogie5555
      @Noogie5555 2 роки тому

      @@MTNRanger The distance from the breaker box to where I plan to put the wall connector will probably be 45 feet or more

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      @@Noogie5555 Yes, 4 gauge looks like the best choice.

    • @Yellingwonthelp
      @Yellingwonthelp Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger what about 70ft?

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      @@Yellingwonthelp The voltage drop on 70 feet will definitely require 4 gauge wire for 60 A.

  • @Dani98664
    @Dani98664 2 роки тому

    I drive 50 to 180 miles per day so looks like I'll need a nema 14-50

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, that will probably be the best choice for you if your have 50 amps available in the panel.

  • @Elizabeth-qc9gi
    @Elizabeth-qc9gi 11 місяців тому

    Oh my gosh so many technicality that non electrician will not understand

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  11 місяців тому

      Sorry, I tried to break it down. Are you looking to get a home installation?

    • @surferdude642
      @surferdude642 6 місяців тому

      Not true, Elizabeth, it's all available to learn on the Internet and UA-cam if you're interested and make time for it. Not all information is always accurate, but with knowledge gained, you can tell fact from fiction. People are eager to correct and teach in the comments on UA-cam, very informative. I'm not an electrician, but self taught.

  • @stargazer2504
    @stargazer2504 Рік тому

    Is no one gonna ask about the 240V 30A microwave???

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Sorry, not sure what you are referring to. What time in the video?

    • @stargazer2504
      @stargazer2504 Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger at 6:35 you show your CB panel and it has a 30A 240V double-pole labeled "microwave"... That's some serious cooking!

  • @tayseerbashir6331
    @tayseerbashir6331 Рік тому

    Just to let you know that my home power is 220 volts

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      Yes, depending on where you live, the voltage differs.

    • @tayseerbashir6331
      @tayseerbashir6331 Рік тому

      @@MTNRanger
      Can I use nema adapter to charge fast instead of 12 amp

  • @steveshaw7258
    @steveshaw7258 2 роки тому

    If a long winter blackout occurs in a land of electric cars most of the population will
    perish in the freezing cold. The gas powered car that would provide cabin heat for
    many days will not be there. The electric car could only supply heat for a short time
    and would quickly discharge its battery making a trip to a shelter impossible.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому +2

      This statement is wrong in so many ways. What happens if the ICE car runs out of gas - the same thing! It has been shown that even with a half full battery pack you could last for a couple days with the heater on. A week if you just use the seat heaters. This is a non-issue.

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому

      My Tesla solar panels and powerwalls got me through the 44hr Houston blackout last year and if I had my Model 3 then I could have changed it as well.

    • @hudsmack
      @hudsmack 2 роки тому +1

      This is a straw man argument. Gas cars aren't going to save anyone from an extended blackout period either. You know what will? A focus on renewables.

  • @carlbrown5150
    @carlbrown5150 Рік тому

    A gas station is a real time saver.!!😉

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому +1

      Not really. Every morning I get a full “tank”.

    • @carlbrown5150
      @carlbrown5150 Рік тому

      @@MTNRangerWhen the grid that can't accommodate all the ev's collapse! then people like me on life support die!! Was my sacrifice to my country worth it being a Veteran?!!

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      @@carlbrown5150 The EV transition will take many years. That will be plenty of time for the grid to expand. For example, I use 4x the amount of energy using my home's HVAC than charging my car. Yet we are able to have most homes with HVAC. I don't see a problem over the long run. Unfortunately, this issue has been used as a scare tactic by conservative media.

  • @MAGApepe
    @MAGApepe Рік тому +2

    just plug it in to anything,,, there saved ya 24 mins lol

  • @myronbrown4490
    @myronbrown4490 2 роки тому

    Myron

  • @davinakiely4117
    @davinakiely4117 2 роки тому

    Tesla is not providing chargers any longer

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  2 роки тому

      Yes, that happened just after doing this video. They are still a good deal compared to other EVSEs.

  • @Patriot3
    @Patriot3 Рік тому

    Clean up that messy garage.

    • @MTNRanger
      @MTNRanger  Рік тому

      Thanks, it took a couple months to install everything. I like how it came out.

  • @MMORPH1NE
    @MMORPH1NE Рік тому

    Excellent video. Thank you!

  • @arejaydubya
    @arejaydubya 2 роки тому

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @tizintest
    @tizintest Рік тому

    Great video! Thanks.