Electrical guy here. Am I going to sell you on hiring someone to install,. "NO!". About 90 % of electrical work can be done by almost at idiot. That. 10% may save your life, but it is all public knowledge. You.can find it if you look. Let's start with wire size. The wires to your house (from the utility) are sized for your house as built. You are adding my a load about as big as a second stove to your house. Can your utility to house wire handle that power? The building code (NEC) has a section 625 that covers car chargers specifically and refers you back to chapters 1,2,&3 for other rules. In this section, your car charging receptacles require gfci protection. Yes, iit also requires gfci protection in the charge unit. It has circuit current requirement of the charger plus 1/4 more current or q reduction of the charge rate and more. Other chapters cove requirements like wire type and the need for conduit. Your local building inspectors can add to or throw out NEC requirements so please check with them. Not all electrical faults result in an instant fire. Some faults take a little longer to show up. Lawyers have the NEC (building codes) on their shelves to help restore home owners after a fault. They might sue the insurance guys to pay after an install bursts into flames. They might also sue the installer to restore the home and replace that $80,000 car that burned because the garage burned down. If you are the installer, can you sue yourself to rebuild your house and replace your car? So,, can you install a car charger, Yes. Can you find all the requirements, yes! Should you call a local electricians, I say, "Yes!" You can pay him to tell you how to do it. He can tell you the best practices and help you avoid or solve problem as they arise. Be safe out there.
1:52 Most dryer outlets are 30 amps, not 50 amps, so charging speeds will be reduced accordingly. 3:31 Error: never use wall anchors when screwing into studs. Also, do not pre-drill with that massive 1/4" bit. Put aside those screws and anchors and get 3 inch wood screws. Could pre-drill pilot hole with a 1/8 or 7/64 bit, if you want. No anchors, go straight into the stud.
2:04 Doesn't the disclaimer negate the purpose of this video? Most people don't have a 240V outlet in their garage and the clothes dryer is usually kept inside the house, so you need to do a long run if you needed to charge the car in garage (or outside), if the run is even possible. Also, drywall anchors aren't needed when you are drilling into a stud for the main EVSE
I think the situation will differ based on how your home is built. The disclaimer is just for liability reasons, I did it myself assuming all risks and someone attempting this has to assume all risks and liability as well.
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose. Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.
Also you need to make sure the breaker for the plug supports that current. And increasing the amperage for that circuit isn't as simple as switching out the breaker because the wire gauge has to be rated for that amperage. Also you need to know if your power service can support another 40A of current draw.
I have a 4 kilowatt battery bike, it takes me 5 hours to fully charge from a normal charger, can you tell me what equipment should I install so that my bike charges in just 1 hour?
You use the term high voltage quite a bit, but as far as I know no residential houses have any high voltage . But there certainly is enough voltage and amperage to kill people so be careful
high voltage as it applies to residential areas are the top lines on the pole, I think they're around 25,000 volts and the next one down is the low voltage lines for the homes, they're 120 or 2:40 depending how you look at it, and low voltage for instance in your garden is around 12 volts, so 1:20 or 2:40 is not considered high voltage
Did the install raise your homeowners insurance premiums or did you insurance company require documents of verification the station was installed properly according to regulations?
Beat the Bush, as an electrician I must tell you that you did not do a safe initial voltage verification; you didn't wear an arc shield, rubber gloves, or stand on rubber matting. Not to mention the one hand rule
@@patrickr2686 Ford can ask people to spend more money than they need. That's not how EVs work though, the EVSE protocol is standardized and every EV will accept charges from any EVSE that reports how much current the vehicle is allowed to draw. I've had one for almost a decade now.
That's funny that EV chargers are named by their rate they charge per hour. This charges at 30 miles per hour. 🤣 6 miles per hour is so bad. Like you can speed walk about that speed. My gas charger charges at a rate of 100 miles per minute.
EV chargers still cant pour energy into a car all that fast unless you swap the battery. So you have to use it differently like charge it overnight. But long trips makes you wait longer. My experience shows a 4 hr trip takes 5 hours.
@@BeatTheBush Good for short distances but for trips most people wouldn't want to wait several hours for their vehicles to charge everyday. Why arn't there hybrid vehicles anymore? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds having fuel when you need it and being able to use charge miles when you can?
But with an EV, you avoid oil changes. No oil filter, no spark plugs, no alternator, no O2 sensor, no air mass sensor, no intake filter, no breathing in fumes once in a while when filling up or just walking around your petrol car.
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose. Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose. Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.
Electrical guy here. Am I going to sell you on hiring someone to install,. "NO!". About 90 % of electrical work can be done by almost at idiot. That. 10% may save your life, but it is all public knowledge. You.can find it if you look.
Let's start with wire size. The wires to your house (from the utility) are sized for your house as built. You are adding my a load about as big as a second stove to your house. Can your utility to house wire handle that power?
The building code (NEC) has a section 625 that covers car chargers specifically and refers you back to chapters 1,2,&3 for other rules. In this section, your car charging receptacles require gfci protection. Yes, iit also requires gfci protection in the charge unit. It has circuit current requirement of the charger plus 1/4 more current or q reduction of the charge rate and more. Other chapters cove requirements like wire type and the need for conduit.
Your local building inspectors can add to or throw out NEC requirements so please check with them.
Not all electrical faults result in an instant fire. Some faults take a little longer to show up. Lawyers have the NEC (building codes) on their shelves to help restore home owners after a fault. They might sue the insurance guys to pay after an install bursts into flames. They might also sue the installer to restore the home and replace that $80,000 car that burned because the garage burned down. If you are the installer, can you sue yourself to rebuild your house and replace your car?
So,, can you install a car charger, Yes. Can you find all the requirements, yes! Should you call a local electricians, I say, "Yes!" You can pay him to tell you how to do it. He can tell you the best practices and help you avoid or solve problem as they arise.
Be safe out there.
5:15 "It's not smoking" 🤣 ... sounds like a seasoned engineer. Great informative video btw.
Turning on a 50A breaker... what could go wrong?
Why do you use the anchor on the stud?????? Why not just screw onto it? That's the whole point of mounting it on the stud.
1:52 Most dryer outlets are 30 amps, not 50 amps, so charging speeds will be reduced accordingly.
3:31 Error: never use wall anchors when screwing into studs. Also, do not pre-drill with that massive 1/4" bit. Put aside those screws and anchors and get 3 inch wood screws. Could pre-drill pilot hole with a 1/8 or 7/64 bit, if you want. No anchors, go straight into the stud.
2:04 Doesn't the disclaimer negate the purpose of this video? Most people don't have a 240V outlet in their garage and the clothes dryer is usually kept inside the house, so you need to do a long run if you needed to charge the car in garage (or outside), if the run is even possible.
Also, drywall anchors aren't needed when you are drilling into a stud for the main EVSE
I think the situation will differ based on how your home is built. The disclaimer is just for liability reasons, I did it myself assuming all risks and someone attempting this has to assume all risks and liability as well.
I use the mobile charger for my ‘23 Tesla 3. Charges it just fine. No need to spend more. Just charge while sleeping.
Are you using the standard plug or the 240V adapter?
@@BeatTheBush standard.
Wow Don't have an EV, but BTB saves another $$$$ for us. Just incredible.
you know what? you're the man! thanks for the video!
Thanks for the info. This is my #1 concern for buying an EV
Glad it was helpful!
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose.
Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.
Keep up the uploading frequency please thank you
I.... will.... try.... =D
Also you need to make sure the breaker for the plug supports that current. And increasing the amperage for that circuit isn't as simple as switching out the breaker because the wire gauge has to be rated for that amperage. Also you need to know if your power service can support another 40A of current draw.
How do you check that?
In MOST parts of the country, we do not have dryer (240V) outlets in the garage, unfortunately.
Might just be for newer homes that have this.
Free charging at BeatTheBushes' house guys!
Lol. It wouldn't be too bad. You can only charge if you're subscribed. =D
Knowing my wife who even hates pumping gas.....I would have to wait when EV cars supports wireless charging....
I suppose it can 'wireless' charge. Maybe some plate moves up under the car.
I have to ask, and I hope you reply to this..... why the hell are you using drywall anchors when you are drilling into a stud?
Good point. I wanted to grab the drywall as well but it probably is better to just use a longer screw.
Why would you use plastic anchors into wood? You should be able to put your screws right into the wood.
I have a 4 kilowatt battery bike, it takes me 5 hours to fully charge from a normal charger, can you tell me what equipment should I install so that my bike charges in just 1 hour?
Thank you for the video, im going to use the link to purchase this item.
If it's constantly drawing 40 amps, go outside and see how fast your meter is running.
No need. 240V x 40A = 9.6kWh, its fast but I've made it do like 30kWh before, lol.
Tired of dealing with occupied Volta chargers, I see
They're pretty competitive and not all that fast.
If you happen to have that EV charging socket already installed in your house... you can save money? Is this video for real? 😂😂
A plug that is compatible with an EV charger could have came from a dryer socket, a welder, or other high energy devices.
You use the term high voltage quite a bit, but as far as I know no residential houses have any high voltage . But there certainly is enough voltage and amperage to kill people so be careful
I suppose the term ‘high’ is relative.
high voltage as it applies to residential areas are the top lines on the pole, I think they're around 25,000 volts and the next one down is the low voltage lines for the homes, they're 120 or 2:40 depending how you look at it, and low voltage for instance in your garden is around 12 volts, so 1:20 or 2:40 is not considered high voltage
Remember the faster you charge the battery it degrades faster.
A non-issue with 50A home charging (12kW). You have to worry more about supercharging at 250kW
Did the install raise your homeowners insurance premiums or did you insurance company require documents of verification the station was installed properly according to regulations?
Not sure, let me check on that.
Which generator is the most ev friendly?
Gas or electric?
@@BeatTheBush Gas and Solar.
Beat the Bush, as an electrician I must tell you that you did not do a safe initial voltage verification; you didn't wear an arc shield, rubber gloves, or stand on rubber matting. Not to mention the one hand rule
Fair enough. I was relying on the insulation on my probes but that seems like it wont pass your test. =(
@@BeatTheBush I am just beating your bush or pulling your leg or whatever the saying is
I don't have a 6-50 plug in my house, did that just make this video irrelevant?
The Ford lighting requires people to have a 100 amp breaker installed
I didn't know! Neat. At some point, it wonder if it'll exceed the incoming wire capacity.
No it doesn't. Use an EVSE matching the current you have available. A 20AMP at 240V is enough for most people
@@thedopplereffect00 watch chillin with chets video on the lighting he says in the video ford asks people to install a 100 amp breaker for charging
@@patrickr2686 Ford can ask people to spend more money than they need. That's not how EVs work though, the EVSE protocol is standardized and every EV will accept charges from any EVSE that reports how much current the vehicle is allowed to draw. I've had one for almost a decade now.
That's funny that EV chargers are named by their rate they charge per hour. This charges at 30 miles per hour. 🤣 6 miles per hour is so bad. Like you can speed walk about that speed.
My gas charger charges at a rate of 100 miles per minute.
EV chargers still cant pour energy into a car all that fast unless you swap the battery. So you have to use it differently like charge it overnight. But long trips makes you wait longer. My experience shows a 4 hr trip takes 5 hours.
@@BeatTheBush Good for short distances but for trips most people wouldn't want to wait several hours for their vehicles to charge everyday. Why arn't there hybrid vehicles anymore? Wouldn't that be the best of both worlds having fuel when you need it and being able to use charge miles when you can?
You can avoid this hassle and expense easily.
Buy a petrol car.
But with an EV, you avoid oil changes. No oil filter, no spark plugs, no alternator, no O2 sensor, no air mass sensor, no intake filter, no breathing in fumes once in a while when filling up or just walking around your petrol car.
I don't have an Ev, been wondering about some of the specifics of charging. Thanks for the info!
Glad to help!
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose.
Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.
This video makes me NOT want to ever want to bother getting an EV lol
You’re weird in all the wrong ways. Doing things yourself isn’t for everyone
Looks shockingly easy
Drill some holes BAM, done.
I am an electrical guy. A friend told me that The Tesla Rep at his house old him he had to get a new electrical service to have a car charger. This was based on the electrical loads/connection at his hose.
Please check your your building guys (building permit office/local electricians) for a safe build.