Another great video and terrific comparison! Love those Lever Actions, I'm especially partial to the 500 magnum. Having the S&W 500 PC revolver, I've always wanted to get The Big Horn armory rifle, a bit to steep in price ($4,000) though. Keep the big bore videos coming "Mr. Revolver Guy" 👍
Higher velocity at lower pressure can be attributed to pressure curve. The pressure builds slower and stays at that level for longer. Think of it like you car going 0-50 in 1 second vs going 0-60 in 2 seconds. One is faster, but the other one reached nearly the same speed much faster. 500 s&w specifically is designed for an 8" barrel. Cfe blk is an excellent powder, but it was made for a lighter bullet in a 50% longer barrel. It is made for 300 blackout which operates on a 10-12" barrel.
Just tell them, "Chesty made me do it" who-rah! i have one in .500 S&W with an 18 in. barrel. I needed a reliable brush gun. The .45-70 will penetrate deeper, but I did not want to blow a hole all the way through elk or a deer. They brush up really well around here, and I have never had one offer me a shot over 90 yards. I was used to hunting in nigh desert, around the hills and mountains, where the game would never offer a shot under 200 yards. I had the wrong firearm for the job, so it was a le-git-amate reason to get a new rifle. I love my new brush gun
Just stumbled across your video and really enjoyed it. I have a S&W 460V (5" barrel) and with just shy of book max loads of H110 pushing the same 240gr XTP Mag I'm getting 1700fps with my chrony about 15' from the muzzle. Extraction is just shy of sticky. These large capacity S&W super mags really shine with H110/W296 but don't take well to downloading with those powders. I'm seriously considering making the $600 deposit to get a BHA 90 Trapper build started. This video may have pushed me over the edge.
Would You Rather: Have either of these levers in 460 or 500 or a handgun chambered in 45-70? (With the assumption that you can't have the matching handgun or rifle.)
If I can have other firearms but just can't have a matching handgun, I'd go w the lever-action in .460 and my sidearm would be a Ruger Redhawk or Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I've handled and shot the short barrel .460 XVR. It was cool, but I have no interest in a handgun in .500 anything, .475, .460, or .454. Full-house .44 Magnum and hot .45 Colt are as big as I'd want to go in a revolver. Maybe .480 Ruger, but I haven't tried it. Not worried about grizzlies or moose where I am.
Sure it can I do not disagree -- BUT it also brings about a big smile, giggling like young people at a slumber party and makes you warm and fuzzy inside LOL 🤣
It absolutely is rifle powder but can be used in the big bore Magnums Hodgdon has official load data for it. Cycles much better with the right profile freedom pill the pointy ones are not recommended for a a lever action to began with as you do not want to accidentally set one off in the tube. Though the FTX was designed for this it still is not recommended. The right profile and slick right up.
Well those loads were .44 magnum level as far as muzzle energy goes. Both cartridges are capable of at least twice the power of your handloads. Not trying to poo poo your efforts on comparing the handguns to the rifles, but if you’re going to shoot the .500 and .460 magnums, at least load them up to factory power levels. These bad boys were not designed to mimic the .44 magnum…just say'n.
Considering the 454 Casull BHA. We're they lighter 460's very manageable? You'd think a handgun cartridge would be alot more comfortable out of a rifle..
500 S&W Magnum load may be to light for the powder and it is unstable. not good.. recently had that happen in 45-70. But it is also could be that it is slower enough to screw up on 8"...
Love your videos sir. This is off topic but did you ever test those 10mm subsonic rounds? With the shortage of 9mm I’m loading some light 10mm Looking for some data points. Thank you and thank you for your service.
LOL Charlie -- I will have everything posted at dayattherange.com but there was a ammo spillage on the way to the range in the range bag and obviously factory got mixed with the loads.
@@Dayattherange take an extra few minutes after preparing your test loads and color code the primers with a colored marking pen...then when you have a spill, 'no harm, no foul'! [img]i.imgur.com/L22a7D2.jpg[/img]
Sure you can that doesn't mean it is safe in ANY way. Unless you mean 454 and still then you are pushing it. There is not a SAAMI spec or a reloading manual that would agree with you. I am not saying this to be mean or controversial and I could have just deleted the post. I wanted to take this opportunity to ask you to please be safe and for others out there reloading their own to be safe. If you have to push a 45Colt that hard just jump up to the next caliber. If safety is not a concern for you think about the value of your Rossi lever because after those HOT rounds it will be well USED. If safety is not a concern for you then think about those around you. BE SAFE
25g of h110 will get you almost 1950fps out of a 240g jsp and a model 94 winchester with a 24 inch barrel, and it is in a older loading manual, 24.9. Sammi has softened the magnum loads from what was their original intent. Probably all loading data.
CFE powders suck in general. I have 3 pounds of CFE pistol. It suuuuucks in 10mm. CFE 223 sucks in my AR-15 too. Even tried it in bolt action. Horrible accuracy. Don’t waste your money on any CFE variant. Beautiful guns though fellow devil dog!
Negative, I’ve got 3 loads with cfe223 that one ragged hole, load down on powder and up in weight, it’s fast and accurate. You likely skipped over the starting charge. Walk it back down if your pills are heavy enough.
Man, look at that line up! Great channel, got me drooling! Need one of those big horn 460’s in my life! Giving me warm and fuzzy feelings!
Another great video and terrific comparison! Love those Lever Actions, I'm especially partial to the 500 magnum. Having the S&W 500 PC revolver, I've always wanted to get The Big Horn armory rifle, a bit to steep in price ($4,000) though. Keep the big bore videos coming "Mr. Revolver Guy" 👍
WOW 4grand is that what those things cost? NOOOOOOO
Two awsome revolvers. And leverguns. Love see table top review on the two rifles.
I love my 460 Performance Center. It'd be awesome to get a lever gun chambered in 460.
One of the best video of big bore shooting I've ever seen great job.
DATR, the big dogs were howling today ..........outstanding !!
Wow! you handle that big bore stuff like it was nothing; great shooting
I surely like watching 👀 your videos. Please keep posting.
I sure enjoyed all your .22lr ammo testing. More please!
Higher velocity at lower pressure can be attributed to pressure curve. The pressure builds slower and stays at that level for longer. Think of it like you car going 0-50 in 1 second vs going 0-60 in 2 seconds. One is faster, but the other one reached nearly the same speed much faster.
500 s&w specifically is designed for an 8" barrel. Cfe blk is an excellent powder, but it was made for a lighter bullet in a 50% longer barrel. It is made for 300 blackout which operates on a 10-12" barrel.
WOW! You sir made the video I've been looking for, since forever.
Exactly 💯 the comparison 👏
Great job! Keep up the awesome work 👏 💪
Just tell them, "Chesty made me do it" who-rah! i have one in .500 S&W with an 18 in. barrel. I needed a reliable brush gun. The .45-70 will penetrate deeper, but I did not want to blow a hole all the way through elk or a deer. They brush up really well around here, and I have never had one offer me a shot over 90 yards. I was used to hunting in nigh desert, around the hills and mountains, where the game would never offer a shot under 200 yards. I had the wrong firearm for the job, so it was a le-git-amate reason to get a new rifle. I love my new brush gun
Nice off had pattern with that 460! I have the 7.5" PC and my shooting stick is my best friend for anything over 30 yards lol
Nice shooting! I have both of these rifles and have never shot them LOL! Had the .460 tuned to handle the .454 to go with my Freedom Arms.
Just stumbled across your video and really enjoyed it. I have a S&W 460V (5" barrel) and with just shy of book max loads of H110 pushing the same 240gr XTP Mag I'm getting 1700fps with my chrony about 15' from the muzzle. Extraction is just shy of sticky. These large capacity S&W super mags really shine with H110/W296 but don't take well to downloading with those powders. I'm seriously considering making the $600 deposit to get a BHA 90 Trapper build started. This video may have pushed me over the edge.
Thanks so much, for posting!!!
Gary did you get one? Those are some Monster Lever Actions
@@Dayattherange No Sir; not YET... The "1/2- inchers" are most certainly on my "Wish List"!!!
Damn brothah, you handle those pistols nicely.
Nice shooting Tex! Love the Spike Drivers! I would not mind picking up a pair for myself!
VERY NICE!!!!!!
Wow, those are some fine firearms you have on your channel today, Sir. 👍👏
I just bought a 500sw spike driver 18" barrel im running 400 grn Sierra jsp with h110. It works great
Nice there is just something about a lever action. Especially one that is as beautiful AND well built as these.
Just ordered the bha 500 Trapper with upgrades, 9-12 month waiting period..
Any word
Still waiting
A+
Would You Rather:
Have either of these levers in 460 or 500 or a handgun chambered in 45-70?
(With the assumption that you can't have the matching handgun or rifle.)
If I can have other firearms but just can't have a matching handgun, I'd go w the lever-action in .460 and my sidearm would be a Ruger Redhawk or Blackhawk in .45 Colt. I've handled and shot the short barrel .460 XVR. It was cool, but I have no interest in a handgun in .500 anything, .475, .460, or .454. Full-house .44 Magnum and hot .45 Colt are as big as I'd want to go in a revolver. Maybe .480 Ruger, but I haven't tried it. Not worried about grizzlies or moose where I am.
nice shooting with the big bores , big bores can teach flinching real fast
Sure it can I do not disagree -- BUT it also brings about a big smile, giggling like young people at a slumber party and makes you warm and fuzzy inside LOL 🤣
Someone has a new favorite rifle!!!!!!
I wish but might be time lol
Great vid. Subed.🇺🇸
Thanks for the support my brother.
I’ve got a 454 Casull with 20” barrel.
They Really wake up with a long tube
Great stuff!
Love those big guns I have a Marlin .444 and it kicks like a mule.
Great video, you can shoot!
CFE BLK is a rifle powder.
And for such an expensive rifle, they shure seem clunky when operating the lever!
It absolutely is rifle powder but can be used in the big bore Magnums Hodgdon has official load data for it. Cycles much better with the right profile freedom pill the pointy ones are not recommended for a a lever action to began with as you do not want to accidentally set one off in the tube. Though the FTX was designed for this it still is not recommended. The right profile and slick right up.
Well those loads were .44 magnum level as far as muzzle energy goes. Both cartridges are capable of at least twice the power of your handloads. Not trying to poo poo your efforts on comparing the handguns to the rifles, but if you’re going to shoot the .500 and .460 magnums, at least load them up to factory power levels. These bad boys were not designed to mimic the .44 magnum…just say'n.
Big Horn Armory come's in 16,18, and 22 inch barrel's if you want to see top speed. Ruger Rich
Considering the 454 Casull BHA. We're they lighter 460's very manageable? You'd think a handgun cartridge would be alot more comfortable out of a rifle..
Ok anything in the lower 48. What about brown bear? What are the ballistics, energy?
Nice shooting, would not be a good time for a flyer, with the chrono set up there...
500 S&W Magnum load may be to light for the powder and it is unstable. not good.. recently had that happen in 45-70. But it is also could be that it is slower enough to screw up on 8"...
I think the load does not burn all the way because it is not a light load at least according to the hodgdon site.
Love your videos sir. This is off topic but did you ever test those 10mm subsonic rounds? With the shortage of 9mm I’m loading some light 10mm Looking for some data points. Thank you and thank you for your service.
Exactly what data points are you looking for so I know what to capture? Email me
A Sailor gave'Ya that shoulder pad...right?
How bad were the numbers in the 460M carbine?
LOL Charlie -- I will have everything posted at dayattherange.com but there was a ammo spillage on the way to the range in the range bag and obviously factory got mixed with the loads.
@@Dayattherange take an extra few minutes after preparing your test loads and color code the primers with a colored marking pen...then when you have a spill, 'no harm, no foul'!
[img]i.imgur.com/L22a7D2.jpg[/img]
you shoot the big bores like .22s
240 gr at 1900. I can load 45 colt to those velocitys out of a rossi 92
Sure you can that doesn't mean it is safe in ANY way. Unless you mean 454 and still then you are pushing it. There is not a SAAMI spec or a reloading manual that would agree with you. I am not saying this to be mean or controversial and I could have just deleted the post. I wanted to take this opportunity to ask you to please be safe and for others out there reloading their own to be safe. If you have to push a 45Colt that hard just jump up to the next caliber. If safety is not a concern for you think about the value of your Rossi lever because after those HOT rounds it will be well USED. If safety is not a concern for you then think about those around you. BE SAFE
25g of h110 will get you almost 1950fps out of a 240g jsp and a model 94 winchester with a 24 inch barrel, and it is in a older loading manual, 24.9. Sammi has softened the magnum loads from what was their original intent. Probably all loading data.
Great video! Sub!
I still say, with a revolver, and the scope, I'd rather have VA lever gun.
Soo baby loads.. get some real ammos?? 💪💥 Example tose speeds shud be 1700-2000.. and rifle 2100-2400
CFE powders suck in general. I have 3 pounds of CFE pistol. It suuuuucks in 10mm. CFE 223 sucks in my AR-15 too. Even tried it in bolt action. Horrible accuracy. Don’t waste your money on any CFE variant.
Beautiful guns though fellow devil dog!
Negative, I’ve got 3 loads with cfe223 that one ragged hole, load down on powder and up in weight, it’s fast and accurate. You likely skipped over the starting charge. Walk it back down if your pills are heavy enough.
Recoil Mania? Those are some pretty weak loads. You could get just about the same ballistics with a 44 magnum.
.500 looks weak
Way under powered with that powder.