It’s Time to Stop Defending Netflix’s Witcher | Asmongold Reacts
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Asmongold Reacts to Henry Cavill Quits The Netflix Show, It’s Time to Stop Defending Netflix’s Witcher
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Imagine having a gigachad actor who is super passionate, loved by the community and intrinsicly motivated... and you make him go .
thats when you know you fail as a company
Netflix writers are injected with so much soy product they couldn't handle the presence of pure masculinity lol.
Fuck 'em, they want to recreate Halo's situation with The Witcher? Let 'em. They will fail and they will bitch and moan about how it's the fan's fault, but Canvill's career will remain intact without that blemish on his resume, and the fans will move on as well. The freak shows over at Netflix? Not so much.
so dissapointing
Bout to cancel my sub
The writer and executive producer is a woman, that might explain things.
Respect to Cavill he said he'd leave if they didn't honor the source material and now he quit lol good on him for sticking to his guns
Yeah he has integrity, and old concept unknown to most now a days :(
Henry good guy
Henry was the only thing honestly making the witcher series watchable, he genuinely loves what he does and cares about the fanbase
If he cares so much why's he leaving ?
@@Awkd because his love for the source material, have you watched the video? lmao. Why would he want to be part of a show that fucks up the original witcher content?
@@Awkd 8:03 is a good example
That doesn't mean that he was ever good for the role or that he should've tried to use his influence to get the show made.
@@WardenOfTerra he was a perfect match. Physically built, and heavily invested in the character and lore.
About Sapkowski and him not liking the games. There was 2 main issues for him.
1: Games got really popular and books weren't known well enough as source material. When he sold rights to CDPR, he thought it will be some extra cash for him but didn't expect anything big.
2: Money. Like I mentioned, he didn't think much about game market and sold rights for really cheap. When game series became huge success, he wanted more money. He even tried to sue but i don't think he got anywhere. He sold right for flat amount and missed out on major pay check. He was very salty about it and was hating on the games since then.
He didnt belive in games - in general(he believes that games are for stupid children), so when CDPR offered him % fee, he declined and sold the rights for equivalent of few thousand USD - flat. When games became money making hit, he sue for more money, and cut a deal with CDPR (ammount that he got was not disclosed - but it was a lot).
It's also truth that he dissliked the games because in US and other western countries there was a lot of missconception which medium was first - there was republication of books with game characters on covers which added to that misconception.
He sold the rights for ~$40,000. Don't know what the settlement amount was.
@@MrRezRising im not sure about that number, it was closer to 20k and PLN not USD.
@@MrJsatrzab Fair enough. 👍
Shame that the writer of the books we love has to have such a horrible personality. The guy is just a real boor. I can't imagine him having a lot of friends, and I think he likes it that way.
I suppose in this way, there is a little bit of Geralt in him after all.
Though you'd think he'd be better at making a contract. They even offered him residuals and he turned it down on principle.
Castlevania, Arcane and Cyberpunk Edgrunners are the perfect examples of adaptations made by people who Respect and love the source material.
Yeah cyberpunk..... 😎💩🚽
@@Cant-Think-Of-Anythink-Better First was book before game.
GoT, Dune and LotR.
@@Cant-Think-Of-Anythink-Better Cope
Take Castlevania off that list lol!
That could not be more inaccurate lol...
It says a lot that Cavill, a hardcore fan of the books and games and your leading star, quits the series. This is all the show runners fault. If they weren’t so boneheaded in hating the source material and adapting it he would have stayed. Let’s face it; the reason why the show got traction from normies to begin with is because of Henry. He’s a good actor. But they wasted him. Personally Henry is better off without the show. I feel bad for Liam. He’s going to be blamed if the series fails after Henry’s departure. And let this be a lesson to Hollywood out there. Stop hating the source material. You don’t have to be fans but at least respect the material FFS.
It's not just work, it's artistic work. You definitely do have to be a fan if you're going to do anything resembling a good job.
When actors don't even know an IP and they get offered a role, that's fine. It's then the actor's job to familiarize themselves and either find enough to love there or reject the proposal. If a writer is working on an IP they don't love, something is very very wrong.
Yea Liam doesn't deserve to have this flop on him. He's a decent actor just needs time. But having so many bad reps adds up.
I wouldn’t mind if Hollywood adapted things I like into movies or whatever if they would just make faithful adaptations. Not even to the letter, I’m talking like the Lord of the Rings movies here. Like yeah, it’s not a note for note 100% accurate version of the books, but it’s evident that not only did they understand what people love about Middle Earth, they went very far out of their way to make it an experience that anyone would like, whether you’ve read the books or not. They were fans and they wanted other people to love the thing they love.
It seems like the opposite is true now: Hollywood takes something that people love but they hate, and try to make it into something they like while spitting on the people who made that property successful in the first place. That Velma trailer was the perfect example, there’s just so much outright derision toward the people who already liked the thing you’re changing. If there was just a little more respect to the fans, maybe people would feel less disrespected by all of this. I’m at the point now where anytime I find out that anything I like is getting an adaptation into a film or a show, my only response is “Oh no” and that’s honestly really sad, because it wasn’t always that way 😞
@@Herosoyyo2 they don't even have to love the IP, just don't turn the tv show into crap, which the tv show became, and don't hijack the show to score weird politcal/personal points.
the entire show is written around its female characters, yennifer and ciri. none of the male characters have any depth. it's literally a feature of the show that the "real" characters who have emotion, trials and tribulations, depth, growth, arcs, are yennifer (in season 1) and ciri in later seasons.
geralt is a glorified bodyguard.
the hound has more character development in GOT and I AM NOT EXAGGERATING, and the hound is LITERALLY written as a bodyguard character with nothing to say.
a LITERAL BODYGUARD CHARACTER in another show with no (apparent or overt) political themes or undertones, who is also a SIDE CHARACTER, has more character development than the PROTAGONIST of HIS OWN SHOW.
The only reason they wanted to make a series is to ruin it. To use it as propaganda. They couldn't tolerate an all European lore with European characters got that popular so they of course had to try to make a blackwashed series of it. Netflix in a nutshell. Just as they are doing to every European saga these days including LOTR.
There are tons of stories to work with in The Witcher, Halo, Resident Evil etc. but they always try to make their own story up and it never ends up being better than the source material.
Yeah, just use the already popular stories and just make them look good, not that hard of a concept to grasp, one would think.
People need to stop hiring these egomaniacs who think they know better than the original writers who EARNED these titles their millions of fans. Adaptation is an artform that Live action directors and writers often throw out the window at the first opportunity they get, and it's fucking ridiculous.
@@Skyflairl2p You hit the nail on the head with this. These people don't understand that most of us would be totally happy with going to the theaters and watching a story from our favorite game franchise be told on the big screen. Hell, I'd love to watch a movie based on the story of MGS3 TOTALLY in CG. I'd love to watch a movie based on Call of Duty Modern Warfare with the same visuals they use in the cutscenes of the new games, or a CG movie of Red Dead Redemption 2. It would be such an easy cash grab and I'm sure that after all of the shitty adaptations we've had in the past, most fans would be totally happy with studios playing it safe like that.
@@Krogdalo unless you have such a giant ego that you think you can do better.
Blackwash. Only ment to spread their propaganda. They cannot stand having European characters, settings and stories be popular
The worst thing about all of this is that the writers and netflix will never understand why we dont like decisions like these. to them, they will see the failure as "entitled people campaigning against their show" when it reality, we stopped watching because they RUINED it.
Oh don't you worry they COMPLETELY understand why we hate it, they just ignore it and insult us to make themselves feel better.
@@Mendicant_Bias How long can they afford to do that though? The media elite don't pay any more for their Netflix subscriptions than we pay for ours....and if they keep killing off the content that leads us to have subscriptions......
Yeppp
but the show is still very good. Even if it doesn't follow the source material
To be fair, the first season was already so far from the books that it hurt. I'm quite happy that people seem to finally understand that this show is awful
Henry’s comments after the fact only further reflects how much of a class act he is.
I am actually glad to see an actor that took a role because he was a true fan of the author and when they strayed he stuck to that and left. Good for him, bad for us
Why is it bad for us? The show was going to be unwatchable with or without him.
@@raifthemad it's bad for us all around because if the show was true to the character he would not be leaving it and the show would have been great. He was unarguably a really good Geralt, the issue was the show didn't want to be the Witcher it wanted to be whatever it was they were trying to do
@@btackett2 Sadly another one of those cases where despite the amount of solid source material that exists, the showrunners do what the fuck they want because they think they know better. It's exactly what happened with Season 8 of GoT.
@@JB-ys8ct 100%, in the case of GoT I think that the writers were in WAY over there heads when they were suppose to finish the story from one of the best authors of our time because the author made the decision to sell the rights before it was done. The books, from the start, didn't mean anything for this show, which is actually fine but at least use the game lore if not. The Witcher 3, alone, is worth 5 seasons of television.
Shoutout to Asmon’s edit team man, I’m never able to catch the live streams but I feel like I never miss out on too much thanks to you all. Appreciate it. Hour long clips are uploaded same day of a stream. His candid thoughts and coolest gameplay moments are always captured.
I've never watched this man live
I mean they are making six figures to do it
true
@@ant13ducks God Tier Content lol
Same .
The games aren't exactly a deviation from the books. They're more like unofficial sequels to the books since the games take place after them. I think it's pretty different compared to the series.
Exactly. It really really bothers me, when people speaking about the games as they are covering the same story as the books, but with a few differences.
@@yellowFN2 Yeah the only thing they "altered" is that Geralt actually survived. That's it.
@@Marxist-Nixonist-Bidenist There are certainly more minor, insignificant changes. The biggest change that I remember is the completely different personality and appearance of Triss.
@@TheDruid1991 oh yeah true.
Yep, the story more or less took off after the death of Geralt in the books. Witcher 1 was not written too well either, but the game was pretty fun and it only improved as the series matured.
Netflix had a gold mine with the world of The Witcher, but they had to ruin it like everything else. Its unbelieveable how this writers keep getting away with it, in any normal industry they would be permanently unemployed
Hollywood and the various industries connected to it allow you to fail upward so long as you have the right connections or at least play your cards right.
I smelled bullshit the moment the showrunner had to come out and promise to not make the show a vehicle for her activism.
its all part of the plan
Films and TV are less about making money that pouring money into spreading the people in the industry's political nonsense and gleefully ruining anything groups they hate like white men, nerds, gamers and blue collar workers to stick it to them
He’s actually said this a few times. And there are articles about him wanting Geralt to be more like the books. Hell he came up with the Roach death scene himself. The Showrunner just wanted to make a joke of it
My respect for henry grows everytime.
Henry carried the show so hard. Gonna suck to see him go but even season 2 was "fanfiction" to fans of the source material. Good for him for choosing his own integrity over an already crumbling show.
@EcnalKcin bro same, I remember the stuff in season 1 but when it comes to season 2 I'm like, what even happened in it?
I'm a big time book/games fan and take my word, neither season 1 or 2 is a fan fiction to me. Fan fiction is made by fans. And it's not about how accurate the story is in respect to the source material, it's about how well the lore in general is preserved.
@@Michal235 My use of the phrase fan fiction is in regards to how s2 took a very wild turn into not following the source at all or staying true to the rules of the established world. I don’t remember a single instance of a leshin taking control and transforming a human into another leshin. Or the amalgam monsters? It just felt like the writers wanted to riff on what was there but it fell flat for me. This doesn’t feel like it’s written by fans of the series imo. I will say the first episode of s2 is one of the best episodes the show has given us. I honestly thought it was perfect. But slowly the season lost its way. Too many story diversions that took me way out of the experience.
@@crazykid2042 vampire+ kaer moren
@@Michal235 its fan fiction in the sense that its written very poorly, takes away from characters traits so that they can push the fan fiction narrative, and has very little depth in every facet.
Cavill is a big fan of both Warhammer 40k and WoW as well, If someone would plan to make a movie close to the source material, he probably would be interested too.
Henry Cavill as Arthas pog
He can play the Emperor or Sanguinis
@@taitoufeiguo He'd make a better Lion El'Jonson
@@Noodlepunk good luck with GW
GW controls its IP tighter than the catholic church did with christianity in 1400.
@@taitoufeiguo It can't just be about a main character, because the main characters just "exist" in the world, they usually don't have "stories" associated with them. A story needs to have an up, a down, intrigue. Something needs to change.
The only example of something happening to the main characters in GW is horus heresy. After that all characters have been static af, and nothing's changed.
it's like, what are we going to watch; another story of yarrick killing some orcs, on a new planet, when we know he won't die (until latest codec allegedly). Or another story of some primarch killing some whoever. No there has to be some danger and threat, take that away, it becomes real lame really quickly.
Cavill is one of my favourite actors. He played the most badass Geralt. It is a huge loss for the series.
This makes so much sense now. I hated Gerald’s character in the Netflix series, and thought I was the only one. Now I see that Henry also hated it. There’s no philosophical musing or biting sarcasm in his dialogue at all, which is a big miss. It didn’t feel like geralt to me. I thought the supporting actors were much more faithfully represented. Like jaskier, and yen. Ciri even.
Jaskier is joke male character he is silly of course he done good
Ciri yen are female characters of course they will be better than male counter part
Geralt is white male masculine of course he will be thrown aside for the "message"
Henry will always be Geralt. Not interested in Liam Hemsworth playing the roll. Won't be watching. Superman won't be materializing with Henry from other websites I've seen.
I didn't like Jaskier in the series. They made him too modern comedy. He also lost lost of his depth. He used to be Geralt's confidant when it came to social skills and human interactions.
It's still so hard to believe how it's possible Henry Cavill is such a based chad geek boi, he's got the chin of the gods and is superman. Yet his video building a PC is probably my favorite work of his, genuine.
Let’s face it, Henry proved he was one of the fans. He was the heart and soul of the entire production. Him fighting so hard for the role is what won people over to it. It might be able to survive without him but it’ll never be as successful.
I would assume that at least 50% of the Witcher audience started watching because they're fans of the books/games. Then maybe another 30% because they love Henry Cavill. So the remaining 20% who just happened to watch it cuz they enjoy fantasy/scifi won't be enough to keep the show going. Based on the latest season my bet is they're going to focus on the female characters and push a 'girl boss' agenda. Which as a gay woman I seriously despise cuz it's obvious fake feminism. Like She Hulk or the all lady Ghostbusters fiasco. Women deserve original roles, not the reheated leftover's of successful men's roles.
Shows as good as done to me, as a fan of the games/books season 2 wasn't it and knowing Henry is leaving because disagreements... no more reason to renew the Netflix sub tho
@@mrs.h2725 yeah actually I bet you’re 100% correct.
I genuinely don't understand why people loved season 1, yes season 2 was a bit worse, but it was the same formula and shortcomings. The failings of the writing were evident from the start.
He goes with the script he likes the most. He has got fck you money
The guy is a nerd that went around the set correcting the directors. This wasnt about the money for him. He loved the games and consumed the books and wanted to give it an accurate portrayel.
henry was 100% in right, if you look at how geralt was written he became a grumbling caricature, with no arc, a wooden side character whose feelings we dont know whose motivations we dont know, who is not at the center of any events. you know who does have an arc: yennifer (stand-in for hirsrich), you know who does have an arc: ciri.
@Jay Ah gotcha, my bad
@@axos3130 I hate the turn media has taken in all of its wokeness and box checking nowadays, men characters are under represented and its doubled down on to the point ideologically where main characters like Geralt are just inaccurately portrayed and made to be a shell of the actual written character
@@axos3130 That is the point of woke messaging. Men (on top of Gerald being a white character) are bad shallow characters.
Women are good. Motivated and deep. The memmory of male heroes must be erased patriarchy bad. Bad Bad.
I am not making this up. This is what you find when you cut through the buzzwords and wordsalad of woke culture.
Nothing but respect for someone who walks away from a project due to the creators disrespect and hatred for the source material.
8:30 exactly. Why is it so hard to just tell the story roughly the way it was. I am usually suspecting either some worldview like political beliefs or their egos - "I can do this better" - interfering
Doing an adaptation is always an egocheck for the authors and an imagination test and tastecheck for the showrunner.
A lot of authors unrighfully think they can do better or that they want to use every opportunity to exploit the work of better people to push in their „work“ and a lot of showrunners lack the feeling for design or staging scenes and fail because their horizon is too small to comprehend how bad their work is.
I think especially netflix and amazon proves time and time again that their picture of good fantasy is just some thrown together clichees bound together in a setting which mirrors childfriendly fairytale stories more than a realistic setting with inner logic and plausible human behavior and plausible civilization/cultural/political structurs.
And even worse in addition they are easily willing to shit on established lore or inner logic to force in modern political messages which most likely have no place under those fictional circumstances
You can do this btw even tho political propaganda (for whatever) is not to my likes but with this mindset please stick to familyfriendly franchises maybe animated series but stay away from more complex franchises which demand way more inner logic and feeling for taste
Imagine if actors on Rings of Power had this level of respect to the original source material.
You realize actors do this for a living and this is their income right? They can’t just quit their job. We got first Lotr content in years and all you can do is spout more negativity, save it for one of those RoP subreddits where they jerk each other off about how much they hate their lives… I mean the show.
@@MrTDizzle240 No you just dont understand why Lotr was so good in the first place. Every actor on the original trilogy was very invested in the books and source material. Peter Jacksons said they wanted to reflect the books as true to the lore as possible and they did. They were only able to make it happen because everyone in the team was on that same page. The love and passion for the myths of Tolkien was put into that work and we all felt it and loved it. In todays show you have a team that was built around political agendas and with the quote "it should reflect the world we live in today". This shows you how far away from LOTR this is. They never intended to make LOTR series, they only wanted to take an already existing big franchise and milk it till it dies. You must be extremely delusional not to see WHY people are complaining and rightfully so. The triology was only good because it was TRUE LOTR not a cheap retelling. But you wont understand i can tell by your ranting about nonsense. Lotr is part of european folklore, i dont want it to be smuddled by political nonsense. You are the problem, not people complaining about genuinly bad things.
@@MrTDizzle240 very slow take
@@wakhartnoheart lmfao edgy name bro
@@MrTDizzle240 how is it edgy
He seems like the type to choose his words wisely. Starting out right with "working with monsters" screams to me there was nothing but yes men and bad vibes for him.
Yes men probably isn't correct. Considering how much shit he wasn't able to fix because they wouldnt listen, it sounds like it was only "no men".
@@aaronyayger "yes men" is probably referring to the people answering to the higher ups, not to Cavill. The big wigs don't care about making it for the right audience, they just want to make money.
@@MattTheBat27 That makes more sense, for sure. But now you gave an out when there probably isn't a good explanation for his use of the term lmao
I dont know why a production team would even try to change a story when so many people already like it, some stories arent very adaptable for tv and sometimes theirs weird things that need to be changed, but overall the story should remain the same, especially when you dont know much about it.
Cavil became cool in my book when he showed sympathy to fans who were very protective of the source material.
He didn’t need fans to have syMpathy for, he was a fan himself. That makes him cooler
@@GraftBranch think he’s referring to when during an interview the interviewer asked him about “toxic fans” an he corrected them saying there are just fans or something
To be honest, it makes me sad for all the other cast. Cavill was the only one really, really pushing to hold the story to the material and the writers clearly had different ideas. Now he's out, and their careers around this show will basically come to an end when it inevitably gets cancelled after season 4.
Games were continuation after books. Witcher 1 happens 5 years after gravely wounded Geralt (and presumed by bystanders as dead) dissapeared with Yennefer, both teleported by Ciri to another location. Game starts with Geralt having total amnesia. He slowly regains memory in Witcher 2, and in Witcher 3 he remembers pretty much everything, and we learn also what happened between books and Witcher 1.
this video has made me want to play the witcher games, ive had them in my steam library for at least over a year. Im currently installing The Witcher: Enhanced Edition. i hope its good :)
@@Huskmini Witcher 1 is an old game and the gameplay could feel outdated for you, but the story and world of the Witcher are just glorious. Wish you a fun time.
Thanks for that comment. After reading books I am now interested in the games 😬
I’ve read the books last summer and I was honestly shocked as to how different the show is. It makes me sad to know how good the show could have been…
This is what book readers have been telling movie only watchers for decades.
Got my friend to start reading wheel of time and now she hates the show lol
This was my impression when I watched the show as a reader, but you can't say this without some idiot calling you a gatekeeper. But let's be honest, the show completely butchered Geralt and Ciri's meeting at the end of Sword of Destiny, They should not have cut out the entire story of their first meeting in Brokilon Forest with the Dryads as it was the fundamental building block of their relationship. Also they focused WAY too much on Yennefer and her backstory, which is almost completely irrelevant to the main plot of the story. Imagine how much better it would have been if instead of focusing on Yennefer's backstory they focused on Geralt's childhood training as a Witcher and going through the Trial of the Grasses. I couldn't even make it past the 2nd episode of Season 2 after seeing what they did to Eskel, talk about character assassination...
@@gordonlove5121 a good example of this is lotr. The books are fantastic yes but the movies are arguably a much better medium for the average person to enjoy the journey of the fellowship.
The sad thing is, people like Henry are a rarity, most of the people making remakes don't care about the source or the fans they just want the money that comes from it, thats why they don't care about making drastic changes.
The writers and producers PROMISED that they would stick to the source material, and die hard fans would love it. They LIED!!!
It hurts, but it's the right thing if what you do doesn't match your ideals anymore. Thank you for bringing Geralt into live.
There is no better actor to play Geralt than Henry Cavill. Literally perfect casting in every way.
wrong. Mads Mikkelsen would be ten times better
@@Mentalex0 Hells yeah! I remember thinking of all the actors I could thing of at that time, Mads would be the best witcher before Cavill even was introduced. Spot on!
Mads just doesn’t have that mass or energy in him to represent a guy like Geralt. Geralt to me is young and still full of energy, but deeply wizened and all around just tired (mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally, etc), knowing he has to keep going forward.
I think the difference between the show and the games deviating would be that the games were suppose to be placed after the books where as this is suppose to be telling the actual story from the books.
If you liked the first season so much, I recommend reading the books, it's a really good story. It is a pity that the showrunners of the series don't give a shit about the source material, and the series cannot be called an adaptation (maybe the first season somehow) and at most a fanfic in the witcher universe
A hatefic more than a fanfic, to my understanding
Tbh it started in the first episode with the addition of the little girl who showed Geralt the way to the wizard tower.
In the books Gerald butcherd the gang in town to save the town but nobody knew why.
It makes sense for the townspeople to call him The Butcher of Blaviken when this witcher guy comes to the town market and just slaughters some random dudes without any reason.
But in the show the little girl is being held hostage and could have cleared everything up. This made the townspeople completly ungrateful and stupid to chase their saviour out of town.
I don't understand how people who absolutely hate the source materials keep getting these huge franchises to work with
The games were after the books. So in universe, the books happen, then the games.
From what I remember, Sapkowki said he didn't like any visual adaptations, because while something like a talking squirrel could be tense and profound in a book, on screen it would just look ridiculous.
That being said, CD Projekt Red bought the game rights for the witcher for a flat price, rather than a share of profits, and it was pretty obvious that Sapkowski was bitter about that, so his poor view of the games could be due to that.
Oh yeah Sapkowski is definitely bitter about the games so I wouldn't take his opinion seriously specially after he also sold rights to his books to Netflix to make another visual adaptation. Glukhovsky (Author of Metro 2033) even called the guy foolish since Sapkowski hated the games so much.
It's funny about his bitterness because they offered him a percentage but he believed the game would fail so he took the flat price and got angry about it once they became successful lol
Good thing CDPR and Sapkowski sat down again in 2019 and reached a new agreement regarding royalties. Haven't heard of much hate from Andrzej since then.
The simplest way to explain it is just knowing that Sapkowski is a definition of a boomer. He finds videogames stupid and is hungry for money.
@@LordVader1094 he sold rights for W1 which was not that successful, he was bitter for w2 and w3 which should be annexed as different projects according to his legal team. Not to mention covers of his books which made him furious
Its also telling that a member of the writing team that left spoke out about how the majority of the other writers hate witcher. The writers didn't want to make a witcher series, they want to make a series that they want while using the witcher as a bait and switch.
My brother in Christ, you just described modern film & tv perfectly. The best way to make money nowadays is to buy out an old story and make it as toxic as possible. Fill it with as much modern racism and sexism as possible, make the villain a white man and turn all the beloved characters into puppets for the poorly written woke ending. I desperately wish it wasn't man, I wasted almost a decade of my life trying to get into the industry, just to have it ruin my mental and physical state.
Unless you have a dedicated team of fans or just decent people who aren't inherently evil like we're seeing, you're pretty much fucked now.
Yea, woke bullshit made on grave of loved books.
Always can respect an actor who appreciates the original writing of an ORIGINAL story 😭😂
Not an original story. The Witcher is plagiarised from Michael Moorecock.
Check out Elric of Melnibone.
@@igglywriggly7124 there is nothing new under the sun my friend, people have found fucking ancient refrigerators in Egypt (not the way we make them and definitely not nearly as small but its the same concept and end result).
@@igglywriggly7124 such an L take. By your logic 90% of written works ever are plagiarized. There is a fine border between inspiration and plagiarism. Sapkowski was clearly drawing inspirations from Elric, but claiming that Witcher is not an original story is just disingenuous.
So you are telling me you have yet to read Elric.
@@coupdegrace2767 Except that if someone now were to create a work of fiction about a superhuman anti-hero mercenary albino titled “The White Wolf” who has a romantic relationship with a raven-haired sorceress who is the only one who can consume his own elixirs slaying monsters in a post “Conjunction of the Spheres” era, that person would get called out for being a plagiarists. That’s what The Witcher’s author did. The trick is to steal something that’s too old for the current generation to be aware of.
Im glad that Cavill had the intestinal fortitude to step away instead of remaining a part of the bastardization of the story. Says a lot about him as a fan.
Superman is not boring. Superman is a very interesting character when you realise his powers are the least interesting thing about him. Once the writers figure that out, the public will too.
Not true to the source material at all. S2 got even worse. Cavill loved the story and games. No wonder he left with the shit they turned it into.
When someone manages to create a good adaptation it suggests an understanding of source material and a respect for what made it good. Not only admirable qualities but one might also argue necessary qualities to at some other point in time be able to create great original content while benefitting from the massive body of excellent work done previously by other authors. The "standing on the shoulders of giants" perk as opposed to taking a piss at the leg of the giant from his shadow while proclaiming to be the greatest writer ever.
Stellaris reference?
Season 2 was watchable. But the difference is, after season 1, I wanted to know when season 2 came out and was hyped for it. After season 2 I didn't care when the next season came out and it fled from my mind. I was also pretty agitated with what they did to Yenn and her relationship with Ceri as well as Eskel.
season 2 watchable? i guess you never touched any book at all, right?
@@godzilla928 Yeah, that's sort of the point. If you're divorced from the context of the book its a perfectly serviceable fantasy show.
The writer hated the games because they were more successful than his books and he sold the rights for the game for a pittance because he didnt think highly of video games. They ended up reconciling later and gave him a better deal out of the goodness of their hearts. Thats my understanding
The author hated the games because he made a bad deal for them and was not paid much. Thus he had a conflict with the game makers and sued them. If he had been well compensated then he would probably have loved the games.
Honestly, if you despised and underestimated videogame industry, posiible revenue and end result so much that sold rights for 3k $ (if I remember correctly) - it's your problem, just like other products that were sold too cheap.
To clarify CDPR offered to compensate Sapkowski well. He refused the deal demanding a flat payment based on his assumption it would fail miserably. When it was wildly successful, well beyond the books, that pissed him off. The author is a talented writer and a petty little shit of a man.
To be fair to cdpr as well they renegotiated. And he got paid better. Still an asshole.
Actually Sapkowski does not hate the games. This is fan fiction. He sued CDPR for more money when his son got cancer diagnose and Sapkowski had to pay for the treatment. Then CDPR and Sapkowski reached agreement. But his son died. Games are not deviation as their stories happen after the timeline of the books. And in general they do not change anything significant about Geralt. Also he did not make bad deal, as the legislation in Poland demands fair payment, so it does not matter how much they paid initially if the profit is high. But he did not care about the money till his son got cancer.
@@Thanatos2k No he does not, and there are not such quotes. He said literally he did not except video game to succeed. And this is completely different statement from your claim. Also he admitted he does not understand video games. And this is normal with his age and background. What you claim is pure fan fiction conspiracy and it is completely fake.
Henry is so awesome for this. Wish we had more like hom
Unfortunately Cavill is not a good dude, He's a middle aged man who dates teenagers.
@@annjepsen1621 …. Didn’t ask tbh
@JustN didn’t ask tbh to see your didn’t ask
Sapkowski had a beef with CDPR because he sold them the license for a few thousand dollars and they earned millions while then his source material was seen as add ons. But the man is a GENIUS. The books, especially in Polish are just out of the mind insanely good and written perfectly. It’s Lobo meets Deadpool meets Fantasy meets Slavic myths and history kind of vibe. FYI CDPR made peace with Sapkowski later as they all are fans of his and renegotiated the deal with him so he could earn something more adequate of his legacy and since then he is in good terms with them for some time already. He was bitter and difficult about it just in the beginning, though it was a bit of his mismanagement to be honest. But from what I read it’s all good now.
Actually Sapkowski does not hate the games. This is fan fiction. He sued CDPR for more money when his son got cancer diagnose and Sapkowski had to pay for the treatment. Then CDPR and Sapkowski reached agreement. But his son died. Games are not deviation as their stories happen after the timeline of the books. And in general they do not change anything significant about Geralt. CDPR paid him initially about 10 000 USD, as he did not believe in the success of the video games, any video games in general. Anyway that was not bad deal, as the legislation in Poland demands fair payment. So CDPR had to pay more anyway. But Sapkowski did not care about the money till his son got cancer.
@@nick3175 Spaknowski doesn't hate the witcher games per say, he just dislikes videogames in general. Man is a massive boomer
@@nick3175 - Maybe "hates" is a strong word. He had no respect for them at the very least and I have seen quotes to back this up. He also doesn't like how most people know his world from the games (because he thinks people see that as the true material and his books as secondary as it is with a lot of games that get expanded lore in books later on). I never understood this though as the games are what helped push his book sales and get his world into the worldwide mainstream.
As for suing CDPR, it was his fault for not taking the royalty. As someone who is smart he should have looked up what games usually sell (even not great ones) and known the money would be better even in the short term with the royalty and then you may get WAY more in the future. OR chose to take half the cash and half the royalty that way you are covering both sides of the bet. He didn't because he foolishly wrote off videogames as a joke at a glance and took the money (that is not CDPR's fault... and he is lucky CDPR seem to be decent enough to give him some more money even though they did nothing wrong).
Not gonna lie, I love Witcher universe but lately I saw few videos and it looks that it is a plagiarism of Elric of Melniboné, so we may be wrong that Sapkowski is such a good writer, he might just be plagiarising cunt, beside that he is POS as a person...
@@PartStupid Well, probably every author has such mentality. And he does not believe understand and respect video games in general, as he is older generation. There were not video games in Poland till later 90s. Also the law in Poland was on his side, so he did not make actually bad deal. CDPR had to pay him more, he just did not ask, till his son got cancer. Then the drama was in internet. Relations between Sapkowski and CDPR never been bad. They just negotiated how much to pay. And I'm fan of the games. I even think they are better than the books. But as his son died, the entire internet conspiracy for his greed is not just stupid, but very ugly too.
It's amazing that contemporary show/movie writers look at stories people have loved for decades and say, "Nah, my ideas are better". And we get another victim in the pile of bad faith adaptations: The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, Halo, Uncharted, the Last Seasons of GoT, the Rings of Power.
Liam would make a great Geralt but Netflix has lost their viewers.
A-lister Henry Cavill has taken his fans along with him.
He put his heart and soul into the role. Unfortunately the writers were not putting A-lister quality into season.
They killed eskel in season 2 when he survived through the whole series!
that was one of the last straws to break the camels back for alot of fans i see, ive never played the games or read the books, and that pissed me off.
Henry Cavill is one of very few actors I feel sorry for.
He's the perfect casting, at a time when CGI is in a good enough state to finally make the concepts work, while simultaneously being given the absolute worst scripts to work with.
It's sad when you have a man the looks more like Superman than many runs of Superman and cant even get a good Superman script.
Hopefully that superman situation will change as all the people at Warner who were blocking him coming back are gone
dude loves what it does and loves the source material, he rather leave than to ruin something he loves...
Thats some rare dignity in the industry.
I mean they're going to ruin it regardless soooo the outcome is the same for us sadly. I mean we still have the early seasons but that's like saying we have the first 4 seasons of Game of Thrones. It all gets tarnished by what comes after even if we try our best to act like it doesn't.
@@trautsj what do you expect Henry to do tho? he just an actor, if anything, we are the only ones we can do something by refusing to watch the show.
its like WoW, everyone wants the game to be good again, but everyone still show up for the new shiny expansion full of hope.
@@chadhardt6136 I'm not putting it on Cavill. I just said that it's a lose/lose for us because with or without him they're going to run it into the ground lol Props to him but shit sucks either way :/
@@trautsj yeah... that just the reality of netflix doing thosw bullshit stories but in order to get what we want, a big clusterfuck is needed and i dont think people care enough to actually do something about it.
I love the witcher, i liked the first season even if some things were off but the whole thing isnt worth if theres no respect for the source material
I saw a quote in some article of the author Andrzej Sapkowski saying that he loved Henry's portrayal of Geralt and said that he would be forever the only Geralt for him.
As an avid Superman fan, your take on him gave me an aneurysm
Still want to see him play Arthus in a Blizzard TV series. If live action, unless they went animated like Arcane.
Arthus, kekw
I watched season 1...that was enough for me to know the show wasnt for me.
well i didn like season 1, it wasnt bad just not for me.....but when i watched season 2.....well i was really pissed.
I checked out the casting half a year before the show was released. That was enough to know it wasn't for me.
Henry hard carried the show. No Henry means no show tbh.
I read all the books and played all the games. The writer does a amazing job writing short stories. He is amazing at writing characters and scene. His long story was c+ at best. Witcher 2 and 3 were far better writing for a long form story. But the core of the characters and the world were from the writers mind and for that I will always be grateful.
If you know Polish history and love phylosophcal approach to fantasy then you would appreciate Sapkowski's story much more
I’ve read the books and spent tons of time in the games over the years. I was excited when this was announced and with Henry’s campaign for the role.
Wish this would’ve never happened now. It’s depressing.
I can't even call season 2 an adaptation. They changed 90% from the books
It’s “known” because he’s been public about disagreements with the writers, who hate the Witcher. Also if you have eyes, the show is becoming the Yennifer show.
It was always about yen .. stronk whamen
Honestly feel bad for Liam, because a lot of frustration over Cavill being gone is going to land unfairly on him.
I hope the writers do for Liam what they didn't do for Cavill - nomatter the actor, the role of Geralt has to be written as Sapowski did it.
A tall,grim,emotionally stunted ugly man that is equal parts monster and hero.
I dont want to see Netflix make a goodie superhero in a dark world, i want the grey wolf in a grey hellscape, where mistakes happen and hurt, consequences undo good intentions, and we really get to feel for a broken unbreakable man. THAT is what makes the Witcher good, in my derp opinion
That’s liam own problem chewing off more then he can bite ,example they want to replace Jonny deep jack parrow with a girl Lmao 😂 goodluck with that 😂👌rather play role different character 👌stay away from something that’s icon role
@@gordonlove5121 yeah if not we’ll known actor go for it because it’s win win for you ,because it’s publicity in the end of the day
@@erikaliebenberg9317 This is what i mean tho, nobody even knows if Liam is going to be a great Geralt or not, but some people have already decided that he's bitten off more than he can chew, just because he isn't Cavill. Give the dude a chance, it's the writers that has to change how they write Geralt, i think Cavill himself made that pretty clear and wished Liam the best.
@@zarahandrahilde9554 here’s what you not understanding,it’s not that role is to demanding or that role is to big …problem is the role has icon with the face already …example “Jack porrow Johon dep “he’s icon nobody gonna take that roll Over even how hard they try, scareface can’t be replaced ,once a person becomes icon of a role.that’s the problem Liam has a name he’s decent actor if he takes this roll he will become worse rated actor,but if you actor with no name and you take roll on people be like ooh you dude tried to play Witcher nice try
@@erikaliebenberg9317 Yeah you've already decided, that's what i mean.
People should really watch the old series from 2002, low budget, and you can´t say much about quality except Geralt and a few characters, but with a clear mind, it is so much better than Netflix for anyone who is fun off the series. Watched it so many times.
They just wanted him to take off his shirt, grunt and stfu. Geralt is a philosopher and HUGE intellectual and NONE of that was represented at all. They shit on Henry's loyalty and determination to really do wonders here. He wasn't gonna stay and play. Deuces.
I think it's less that Superman is boring and more that he is a very very hard character to write because the point of him is that he's _that_ unreachable high standard people aspire to and that requires a fundamentally different writing than just "He punch badguy, he wins." I think you need the emotional maturity and honesty to be able to reach for that abstract standards and turn them into stories capable of moving people. Something I have doubt with the immaturity of American TV writers.
Superman isn't boring. He has plenty of very strong stories like All Star Superman and American Alien. It's most writers focus on the wrong things when it comes to Superman.
Season 1 was a reasonably faithful adaptation of some of the short stories, although almost all of the Yennefer arc was made up by the writers, inferred from minor references in the books. I really enjoyed Season 1 as someone new to The Witcher and it inspired me to read the books.
Episode 1 of Season 2 was another reasonably faithful adaptation of another short story but from there on it really had very little to do with the story in the books except for very loose ties to certain events and settings. I could only get through 6 episodes before giving up on it as more and more it just didn't feel like The Witcher anymore.
I think most fans just want a faithful adaptation, as you said they can make changes where necessary but keep to the core story, there's a reason a lot of these properties are popular and to willingly tamper with them is just bonkers.
Btw The Cable Guy was awesome, glad I completely missed whatever BS controversy there was about that.
The thing is, my interest in the Witcher adaptation extended as far as Henry Cavil playing the role of Jeralt(edit: Geralt).
Whatever they wanna do now, I ain’t interested in it past season 3 (which iirc is already done filming and it still featured cavil)
@Jessica Miller
True
And the funny thing is, I actually did play the games (didn’t read the books though).
And even then I kept thinking his name started with a J.
The problem with the Studios seem to be that the Studio execs want profits so they target the most popular IPs. Then these are given to writers and marketing teams. The marketing teams tend to fill it up with the most popular words ideas of the day to design the marketing of the product. The writers/directors who want a lot of money work on these projects, but they have no love for the source material. They just want to make money and feel like they are effectively being made to work on something they either don't care for or hold disdain for (kind of like writing a compulsory class assignment on a subject or topic you hate). So they try to either fix/update the story or writer their fanfics that they try to pass off as the better version of the original. And this is what leads to the situation of writers hating the very IPs that make them rich. It also shows why they seem to hold such disdain for the fans of the source material, as far as they are concerned it is the fans' fault for making the source material (which they look down upon) so popular in the first place thus *_forcing_* them to work on it.
Saying Superman is boring is admitting you never read the great comics of him.
Rings of Power, Wheel of Time, The Witcher. These adaptions aren't adaptions. They're nothing more than the acquisition of brands with which to sell whole new stories created by the show runners.
Nothing is more depressing for an actor who finally gets to embody a character theyve always dreamt of, just for it turn into a nightmare because of the fucking production team. I feel a little shitty for Henry and Wished The Witcher Show would have been good but Henry will definitely be okay, lol.
In response to Asmon saying how Superman is a really boring character, thats pretty surface level observation. If he really read some of the best Superman stories, he is pretty interesting.
At this point... What HASN'T Netflix destroyed. From The Witcher to The Sandman, I fear watching anything existing in book form that I love. My toes are tired of cringing.
The author is not a fan of the games because he missed out on BIG money. He made a shit deal thinking that his story was not going to be a hit anyways and sold all the right to CD Projekt
They managed to Cowboy Bebopped, potentially greatest show on Netflix. Henry was the only person so patinate about the show, and they managed to lost him while keeping untalented garbage of an actors.
Honestly. I am a big fan of the Witcher, and I am also a big fan of the Wheel of Times books.
When I read that one of the story writers for the WoT series had proposed "Talking bears" instead of the whole concept of "wolf brother", solely because that writer thought bears were cooler than wolves, I knew that the show was gonna fail hard.
If Henry had to fight that level of stupidity, I do not blame him for leaving.
He was on a British talk show about the time just after season one. Graham Norton show I think. He said that he corrects the director constantly and laughed about it, but he was serious.
It's ridiculous, all these writers looking at beloved and popular stories and thinking "I can do better than that", Game of Thrones writers fucked up pretty bad when left on their own, but at least they did a good job adapting what was already written.
The games were a sequel set in the Witcher universe, not an adaptation. And they built an amazing world.
Big props to Asmon for mentioning Dredd. That movie is phenomenal and a fantastic adaptation of the source material, even if sans an ABC Warrior.
I d love to watch Asmon stream a play through of witcher 3. Come on man, make it happen
didn't he do one i remember watching him play witcher 3
We all know they are going to push Gerald's character to the side to make space for a strong independent woman to monopolize the screen time.
Season 2 already did that.
@@hamanu666 Agreed but you haven't seen anything yet if Cavill is now choosing to leave. Lol.
On a website there is a petition :"NETFLIX: You MUST keep Henry Cavill as The Witcher and replace the writers instead" with already almost 200k sign!! I have signed it. Henry Cavill was fighting all days to do the script the way of the author. Now Eskel is dead and I think the season 3 will be worst and change the story. So maybe nothing will change but I hope to see some journalist talk about this on my tv.
This had the possibility of being the greatest show ever created if they just listen to Henry........ THIS IS SO SAD
Games weren't a diviation from books. They are a continuation of a story. Briliant one I must add. Also people don't realise how different books and games feel just because of language. Slavic mythology/culture written in old polish have way better depth and feel than english translation.
pls never change ending its wonderful, the vibin asmon
Henry as Litch King in a WoW movie would be epic.
Maybe henry cavill should be the showrunner, now that would be epic. 👌
Agreed with everything up to the point where Asmon said the source material for Superman is garbage and he's a bland character. That's all Snyder's doing at least on the general public who only sees the movies. Clark originally has lots of character, he's sarcastic, a bit of a show-off, a bit innocent and with a big heart, and lots of country in him 'cause he's a boy from Kansas first.
Snyder didn't understand the layers to him and did what he wanted, that's why people think he's boring and if you want proof I would refer you to "All-Star Superman". Simply read that and tell me he's boring
It's just really sad. It's sad to see such a perfect character go, but, I am excited for Henry's future films, especially Superman!
A while back I saw a quote by Sapkowski that in no uncertain terms could be interpreted as him selling out his own work for few silver coins as long as people know the he is the one who created the Witcher.
The dude is only really motivated by money, he had beef with CD Projekt Red because they made more money off the Witcher than he did
Good for Henry putting respect and faithfulness first, if that is true anyway
An actor on this level doesn't abandon a project unless he thinks his career will take damage by staying.
After what they did to Eskel, Henry knew he had to get out of there
Can't blame him for leaving. The writers clearly disrespect the Witcher universe and are only interested in pushing a political agenda like most Netflix originals.
Its like with Disney....all they had to do was make the Legacy of the Force series into movies and it would have been absolutely phenomenal
So true. The now star wars 'Legend' EU was a gold mine of incredible stories to adapt.