My dorm had a shared bathroom, concrete floor with cheap linoleum tile over it, and cinderblock walls. Only thing missing was prison bars instead of a steel door. Cost was around $1000 a month back in 1995. Oh and you had to have a roommate. I think around 200 sq feet space.
@@chrisbabbitt4202 oh my, I had the concrete floor, lino cover and cinder blocks too! But a wooden door, and a sink. 190$/month in 1998 8'×13' to my whole self.
The staircase overwhelms the tiny space. I think a ladder would have been more practical. The desk. Should be under the stairs with the couch on the opposite wall.
For real. Should have put a spiral staircase there, and they'd have room for a more spacious seating arrangement next to it. Or at least continue the sofa cushion to the end of the wall, so you could use it like a Diwan.
@@pedterson I don’t think a spiral staircases will fit well there, it could seriously obstruct the doorway, a ladder, even if less practical may work there I think.
@@massimechoub3343 You're right, a classical spiral staircase wouldn't fit. I was thinking of something like the attic stairs from EeStairs. Alternatively just a much steeper staircase with storage or shelves underneath. Or yeah, simply a ladder. Given that this is targeted at active students, the designers sacrificed a lot of space just to make their ascend to bed super comfortable.
Maybe one of those staircases that have storage underneath. Like you can have the closet and the microwave and pantry there. You get the space they have right now filling that.
Its all they could do that would fit within housing codes. If it was a personal residence they would be allowed to get away with more, but the fact its meant for other students means they have certain safety regulations.
The color palette of this house reminds me of trains😅😅😂😂. Also I thought this apartment was targeted to students but there is no sufficient space to study. I wish they had kept the ladder (just avoid those rounded ladders people slip from those a lot). It would've given a bigger space for that couch and desk. Again I'm only saying this bcoz the designer said they were targeting students.
Seriously... and freed up sooo much more space in the living room. The sliding door should be in the inside of the bathroom, not the outside. You could have a proper couch in there with storage underneath it as well. Sometimes it is just too much design. It isn’t even a question of form over function because the form of those stairs is bad as well, what a claustrophobic way to get to the loft!
@@VinceIsDatBitch Oh God! Why did you remind me this design? It is by far the worst in the channel lacking beauty and functionality at the same time. The curtain? 5 months later, it still looks drab. We all know that cloth is not very effective in sealing gases.
I actually like that they added a little color. Too many of the apartments on this channel are boring in that all the surfaces are white, or all raw plywood, or otherwise all the same color.
@@MrBeaux I like that they added color, but that blue floor doesn’t do it for me! Then, the burgundy curtain and the lavender couch makes the color combo even worse!
1. Red curtain and blue floor is a no no. 2. The "dining table" is positioned weirdly in relation to the TV - if you sit on one of the sides, you can't watch the TV because it's too close to your face. At the same time, you can't reach the table if you sit on the sofa. I'm not a TV person anyways, so whatever. 3. The "sofa" seems a bit too small. 4. The ladder takes too much precious space in this already small room. Also, my friends and I would probably hit our heads every time we got up from the sofa. 5. This is supposed to be a student place right? But where are you supposed to study? There is no desk!
1. i like blue floor, but I would agree that used colors don't match, 2. I don't get why they put TV in. I mean: how many students would use it. I had one in my rented flat during the uni, and we turn it on twice in half a year we lived there; 3. sofa should be made all the way to the wall 4. yes, they should make stairs a little differently, maybe make more steps to the landing area, stairs would start a little higher and there would be more space for sofa. And stair look really nice, but I would open space with only steps with low railing, but that would need some work with the wall, now it is separate construction - easier to do 5. in the library? or using that small table? or in cafe (after corona)...
@@MaraMara89 Libraries close and a lot of people can't concentrate surrounded by others. Studying in a cafe every day would also get very expensive, esp for a student. And a small desk also wouldn't be preferable, as you need books, notebooks, room to write, a computer/laptop and a planner on there. If you study architecture, art or another kind of design you'd also need a large surface to make your designs. Which you also can't do in libraries or cafe's
@@canwejustnot Good point with that not-so-common studies. To be honest I made it through my first 3 years of studies having little table (half of it exactly - because I shared a room) and be sitting mostly on the bed - because table was stucked between two beds. I know that small table isn't perfect option - now I have big desk in my office and I am still using windowsill sometimes - but if you are in need to have small place like that you can make it. Buying a trolley/kitchen helper (I mean something like NISSAFORS from IKEA) on wheels and with shelves can help - it will also be usefull as coffee tabel near sofa and can be put aside easily. And maybe I am wrong but I do think even studing architecture you can do a lot of work on your computer nowadays. maybe they could use something like NORDEN table from Ikea - I have it in my 30 square meters flat - if it is folded it is around 30x80 cm like a console and fully open can seat 8 people. Still: I do think it is good that they showed that flat, because it is a lot cheaper to do than most of their projects - most of the work you can do by yourself. that shows that livable tiny house isn't possible only if you have a lot of money. And if you would be doing something for yourself you can adjust it to your needs
I agree with all your points. I think 2 could have been easily solved if they used a modern TV and a mount that was more flush to the wall. Though students would not care to be without a TV and use their laptop instead...
Indeed, should have installed a European staircase, or just left the ladder. A European staircase takes up just a little more space than a conventional ladder But is easy to use, and safer
Ladder is not for everyone... and a hassle if you’re drunk or need to pee in a jiffy, spiral staircase might seem a good solution but the circumference hampers efficiency in such a narrow space.
This is the first small space that does not look comfortable. The stairs look over designed and painfully sharp, almost gold alchemy. The wood proportions are off, if the barn door has to slide into a box (?) line up the edges. Would love to see some measurements on the floor plan.
It should not be allowed to live in such a small space, with nearly no windows. And the heat they have in summer directly under the roof with no ventilation! Crazy!
Idk I kinda feel anxious watching this.. the colors, the stairs, and I think the idea of opening the toilet for natural light gives me anxiety of smell, I also feel uncomfortable if I were studying in this room.. but thankyou for sharing this, I always love your channel
Anxious, yes. I had never seen a video of a living space that made me this physically uncomfortable. There's no windows! I felt trapped watching a video. Damn, scary movie directors wish they had this kind of power over audiences.
I really can't imagine living in here under lockdown! It's too tiny and many materials look cheap such as the floor and the curtain. Students deserve better spaces I think, even in Milan
"Cheap"? You mean "affordable"? All anyone does around here is bitch about how "expensive" the renovations are, as if for whatever reason they think renovations are free; but anytime NTS shows a small place with a low-cost renovation, people shit their pants over how "cheap" it is? This place was made for a student. Any student should be thankful to get an inexpensive, newly renovated place in such a populous city. You don't wanna live here? Ok, fine! Don't! This wasn't made for you anyways.
@@agnespethes as a student myself, you highly underestimate how much space and materials you end up needing. If you seriously want to study, you don’t want to be moving things back and forth just to have enough room. This may be student accomodation, but often they tend to me more expensive then other rooms because of their convenient location so you would want to get your money’s worth and have everything you need. Take this pandemic for example most universities and the facilities are shut and for a lot of students who signed on a 6+ month lease are stuck studying online with what they’ve got.
@@agnespethes if there is so much room to study as you say, why would you use the University library instead? Also don’t lecture me on what is and isn’t enough space to study in, because you’ll find many people agree with me
I’d hate to live in a place without windows you can actually look out from. Just windows on the ceiling. Makes it a very uncomfortable depressing place.
Hate the micro "couch" shoved under the prison-like staircase, and that they left just enough space for your phone to fall through the gap in the sleeping area. Overall this one is just extremely depressing and seems like an awful use of space. Who wants the nicest part of their apartment to be the bathroom?
I think they cant move the bathroom becuz of the pumbling, considering its an old buildings, and it looks like ita on top floor, its would be difficult and costly to move do another pumbling
That they didn't find a solution for getting the humid air out of the kitchen makes this a bad place for cleaning up. All the oil u use in cooking will get onto the cupboard, the wardrobe and eventually even into the living and sleeping area. Just eww
The probably assumed a student wouldn't cook much and mostly eat at the uni cafeteria, but I knew so many students who still cooked regularly. This kitchen is designed for people who don't cook.
Some wasted space & you are definetly hitting your head when you sit on that couch. And its ugly... Cero practicality for a student. Why opening doors when it can be sliding doors?
Why do you feel the need to brag? It’s a Temporary shelter for a student. Save money so you can buy a condo with larger space living and then you can brag.
My thoughts (having lived in a dorm 3 years, and studio after): the stairs are too bulky and too dark, I would rather use movable furniture that one can rearrange according to the needs instead of all those built-in, and definitely a frosted glass door for the bathroom to keep the natural light from that tiny window without seeing the sink. Blue floor? No! No no no. Same for the burgundy curtain and all that laminate wood. It's all _eating_ the light instead of bouncing it.
The sofa is actually a chair. It will only look like a sofa if you're feet are up facing the entrance to the staircase. This the first time I really disliked the design.☹️
It's surprising how much has been squeezed into that small area, though I agree with other commenters that there's a lack of study space and comfortable seating. I suppose I'd spend a lot of time in bed while studying. As also noted below, this is better than sharing a run-down one-bath apartment with four or five others.
I'm sorry, i don't like this at all. The staircase looks like something from a prisoncell 🙈 And the colors, damn, it's so wrong. It looks better before the renovation.
I was thinking they couldve done a warm tone -similar to the wood for the floor or even black to match the stairs. Then the curtain could a nice light color. And bam, it wouldnt look horrendous
Should've designed the stair case like tiny homes do, to incorporate more storage space into them. I'd have the stairs narrower with cabinets under them, have a section of it open up to reveal a TV/monitor and under that have a desk surface that flips up to study at. There would maybe be enough room for a comfortable sofa.
what kind of architect thinks painting the floor in one single color, and have that color be BLUE, is a good idea? it´s like the floor on my kindergarden...This one was a terrible, terrible adaptation.
Not a big fan of this one. A lot of nice ideas but not the correct space for them. Color palette is off as well. Over all it seem over crowded and not sleek or modular. The sliding door was the biggest concern for me. Thanks for sharing though.
I can see the idea and the skills required to pack all of those functions into 10-14 sqm, but I still feel that forcing people to live in such a closet is not really moral
No one is being forced, you can always share a bigger place or go solo and pay accordingly. What you won't have is central location + large, unexpensive individual accommodation, so you'll have to consider your priorities.
No one is being forced, you can always share a bigger place or go solo and pay accordingly. What you won't have is central location + large, unexpensive individual accommodation, so you'll have to consider your priorities.
The apartments showcased on this channel are charming when they’re designed by or for the intended resident of the home. This episode has the bitter taste of landlords experimenting with what they can get away with. It will be a tragedy if more efficient design in use of space becomes just another tool for landlords to exploit renters.
Very impressive. What I like best is that old buildings are not tore down. I wish here in America we showed more interest in saving old architecture. Well done!
Love the kitchen ! So tiny but somehow so comfy. I know this wouldn't suit everyone, but I personally would have prefered using a ladder incorporated to the wall to go up the loft, which would alow more space into the living area that feels tiny to me as it is. In my opinion, the stairs just take too much place visually. But using a ladder everyday is not to eveyrone's taste, so I understand the choice of stairs, I would have wished for it to be more discreet though.
The ledge under the TV seems like a waste of space. I feel like it maybe could have been extended and turned into a desk. The TV also seems useless, since there’s not a proper place to sit and watch it.
@@arvidjohansson3120 it really depends on the location, I couldn't get where in Milan this place is based on the building they show outside, but similar apartments can go up to €180k starting from no less than €80k or so.
As a student, in your room you only really need two places: the main place is your desk, with the computer, your books, notes, things you use every day; and the second place is the bed. Who needs a TV when you have a laptop and a smartphone? Who needs this wooden structure which they call "sofa"? Who needs this staircase which takes half of the room? As a student, I lived in small places, but this one - I would not live in, thank you very much.
I appreciate the effort to reuse an empty space under the roof, but this was clearly not designed for students. First of all the only library is the one next to bed (really small I should say), the times are changing and as students the books are being replaced by digital material but you do need some space for the books/notes, moreover the table seems uncomfortable (you can't even look outside of the window to take a deep breath of air, especially in these periods in which the libraries are closed). The one-seat sofa is really depressing, you can't even invite one friend over to drink a beer :/ The closet in the "kitchen" ? Why would you like your clothes to smell like onions or whatever you are supposed to cook? The colors and use of wood make the space look smaller than it already is. As a student I would prefer to live with other people in a larger house (paying less I suppose), instead of this. I think this space is ok for short-term bnb use or someone who needs just a space to sleep and that's it.
While I agree with much of the criticism in the comment section this did achieve something very noteworthy; it's the first space covered in this channel that actually matches the name. In every other video you have people commenting that "it's not even that small" or something to similar effect, in this one people feel it's too cluttered. As a tiny house enthusiast I certainly agree their use of space could have been more effective but I hope this episode indicates the channel will cover more spaces in the future that are actually "Micro."
who chose these colors ?! Can someone explain me where do you store your clothes in this flat ? Looks like students don’t need many clothes hahah not a big fan of this restoration
giving the circumstances and the context, i think its an ok apartment for an estudient. I would prefer the stair to be a little less of a cage, maybe just having the estructure on the side of the wall. Also, the side table of the bed could have a different design so the natural light could enter easily to the bed. they did a good job, but a place with no visuals to the exterior is a big no for me.
Like I can imagine a loft to be cozy. Like having your bed up there, some nice lights and stuff. But this design just destroys all the possibilities of making it cozy
This is an important design. I live in a dense urban setting surrounded by thousands of people that would love a place like this to call home. Most city dwellers spend a lot of their time outside of the home and only minimal accommodations are needed. Sleep, eat, relax and bath are the only things I do at home. Work, hobbies, exercise and socialization are all done in a different place.
As far as the stairs go, they could have followed the tiny house movement and used a ladder. Make the upstairs space a study nook and with the space you have now reclaimed from no black, metal monstrosity, could put in a futon sofa/bed.
Better than a ladder or a stair, I mean a conventional stair, is a European stairway, also known as an alternating stair Step system. Google it, you will be delighted. For some reason they are rarely done. I am doing one right now for a client and I have two in my home. They are totally illegal in America as with just about everything else in this bureaucratic nightmare. For my clients I do these things on the sly, whether they be a government loving liberal or a government hating conservative, ha ha! One thing you need them for sure, if the bureaucracy is going to affect their freedom and their pocketbook, they will go underground.
It's a clever use of space definitely . But perhaps this is the first really too small apartment on the never too small channel. :) Tye wardrobe next to the kitchen is a bad idea, I think. I wonder if it could have been switched - the wardrobe to be on the base of the stairs and then some sort of spiraling stairs or a ladder to the platform. And yes, study space is missing, too.
@@SchizophrenicFrankie No, overall I still think that given what they had in the beginning, they did a good job. The cleverness comes from even being able to come up with this setup in such a small space. The three points are just things that I don't like or wouldn't do (although I'm not even a designer).
NOT commenting about the project - But am amazed with the consistency in the way ALL the videos on this channel, are shot and edited. Even more commednable since the shoots are probably being remote managed during the pandemic. Even the way the Designer opens cabinet doors and then gently walks away is precisely the same across ALL videos - WOW!
I don't know where all these complainers studied but my dorm was smaller and we shared the bathroom and kitchen with four persons. This is a luxury villa compared to mine and in Milan of all places. I could study at my university so no problem with the size, the colour or the stairs. It's beautiful in a designed way.
There may have been some regrettable design decisions made here. From my point of view this is a great example to learn from 😊 And it’s still an improvement from the original uninspired “design”. I’d rather live in a Japanese Train than in some furniture storage room 😂
As much as I like the design of the metal staircase, I think an alternating tread staircase would have been a better option. The built ins and the materials are done very well and the design details are well thought out. I commend them on getting a washingmachine into such a small unit. And the motorized window and blinds are a nice touch.
Dear Clark: I thought I would never see someone else mention an alternating staircase, also known in America as “European staircase.“ It is almost always the best solution to a small sleeping space or space that is not used frequently.
Wow, I’m surprised at the many negative comments! If I could have had my own kitchen and bathroom in such a small space as a student, I would have been very happy! Even your own washing machine! There is plenty of space for books and clothes as well. A different color curtain is an easy change. I would have opted for a ladder probably so you have more seating space. Still, the majority of student housing I have seen is so much worse. Maybe depends where you come from.
The metal staircase would be the one thing I would replace. I've seen much better solutions for climbing to the sleeping loft. A retractable staircase or ladder would be better. Also the seating space underneath the staircase looked constricted. The big loft window was an excellent choice allowing plenty of light into the apartment.
I appreciate how they develop a very small space. Some people have a lot of comments about the stairs, color of the floors or whatever. But I really like it. I can live there.
Honestly, I don’t see any design in this space. Maybe on the stair structure for being geometrical, but as of the rest, it’s lack of design and warmth. It actually looks like a DIY(ish) a landlord could make. There are tons of ideas you could approach to make this a living proof that tiny spaces can be nice and aesthetically pleasing.
Very well done, only criticism is the lack of desk space and being a current uni student I cannot emphasise enough how crucial that is. Would like to see the couch area being widen and exhchanged for a desk.
This is a very smart and spacious looking design. I read a lot of comments about the stairs, but I think it was designed out of need, to meet building regulations. The Loft bed is too high for a ladder to meet standard (and renewed) building regulations. In The Netherlands, this kind of height requires the same regulation as stairs leading up to a floor, meaning it must have a railing. I think the same goes for Italy and perhaps it is an EU rule.
I saw a lot of "suggestions" or rather, complaints abt it but... I gotta say, for them to reconstruct everything that much is great. Just look at how it was in the first place, it's a miracle it looks much better.
Not very good design i think... It feels lot more conjested and somehow feels like a cage, considering that floating stairs, small loft space and yeah no window....maybe they could have provided a different zoning and they forgot the most important thing - a study space considering the apartment is for a student. No student will spend their time on that apartment
It kind of reminds me of a vip train room/cubicle. Really prefer the floating stairs to be smaller? The sofa looks cramped and uncomfortable to seat two people. The person sitting would probably bump their head multiple times on it. That staircase space could’ve been good for storage- clothes and misc or a study desk (since this is place is intended for students. The closet in the kitchen could just be used as a pantry and for other misc items
Having lived in Milan for 3 years, and knowing how expensive it is to even afford a double room there, nevermind a single room, it doesn't surprise me that an "apartment" as small as this exists in the city. Probably there's even smaller ones, and the landlords charge a TON for them. I was enjoying some of these tiny houses videos, but this one brought back NIGHTMARES The reworking
I’ve lived in smaller places that felt way larger. Architects need to try to live in the design they’re working on so they can realize what the heck they are doing.
NTS anche qui in Italia! Bello! Era ora! È vero che come dice la ragazza nel video l appartamento è pensato x studenti xké passano molto tempo fuori casa. Ma non si dovrebbe comunque passare tutta la vita rinchiusi in casa. Appartamento molto bello e minimalista. Spero che le tiny house prendano piede anche qui in Italia.
The flat is not bad, maybe just a little tight in the hips... And, seriously, a pandemic lockdown in such a place is a future challenge for psychiatry.
this is a great use if such a small space,,, really sad to see so many negative comments in the past couple of videos. looks like people who genuinely dont like small spaces nor see the use in renovating one have found this channel and filled it with negativity, how sad. but i think a lot of us can still see the beauty in innovation. small spaces aren't meant to be perfect or the most over the top comfortable and forever-homes. they accommodate people that can afford only that in the tine being, in the classiest way possible. keep it up, as always is a joy to see and dicover new architecture that makes this world a little bit more interesting.
I was hoping for a wider bench under the TV, this way the student can spread out and study. Otherwise, a very nice flat. Albeit small, the student can function in this space without much hindrance.
Blue floor and a maroon curtain, yep that student accommodation alright
It's a palace of design compared to what I had to share during school.
I had orange curtain and olive green Formica table/desk
@@taylorlibby7642 Goodness, yes, this is a villa compared to my dorm. And I shared with 4 others.
My dorm had a shared bathroom, concrete floor with cheap linoleum tile over it, and cinderblock walls. Only thing missing was prison bars instead of a steel door. Cost was around $1000 a month back in 1995. Oh and you had to have a roommate. I think around 200 sq feet space.
@@chrisbabbitt4202 oh my, I had the concrete floor, lino cover and cinder blocks too! But a wooden door, and a sink. 190$/month in 1998 8'×13' to my whole self.
the blue flooring... real hospital/kindergarten vibe
The staircase overwhelms the tiny space. I think a ladder would have been more practical. The desk. Should be under the stairs with the couch on the opposite wall.
The color pallette makes it look like a japanese train accommodation.
really dont like that floating sharp metal staircase over the couch, i would hit my head into it everytime i got up
For real. Should have put a spiral staircase there, and they'd have room for a more spacious seating arrangement next to it. Or at least continue the sofa cushion to the end of the wall, so you could use it like a Diwan.
@@pedterson I don’t think a spiral staircases will fit well there, it could seriously obstruct the doorway, a ladder, even if less practical may work there I think.
@@massimechoub3343 You're right, a classical spiral staircase wouldn't fit. I was thinking of something like the attic stairs from EeStairs. Alternatively just a much steeper staircase with storage or shelves underneath. Or yeah, simply a ladder. Given that this is targeted at active students, the designers sacrificed a lot of space just to make their ascend to bed super comfortable.
Maybe one of those staircases that have storage underneath. Like you can have the closet and the microwave and pantry there. You get the space they have right now filling that.
Its all they could do that would fit within housing codes. If it was a personal residence they would be allowed to get away with more, but the fact its meant for other students means they have certain safety regulations.
The color palette of this house reminds me of trains😅😅😂😂. Also I thought this apartment was targeted to students but there is no sufficient space to study. I wish they had kept the ladder (just avoid those rounded ladders people slip from those a lot). It would've given a bigger space for that couch and desk. Again I'm only saying this bcoz the designer said they were targeting students.
Honestly, a ladder would have been better than those stairs...
My like made it 100😊
@@elenaspector5008 it's at 99 luv
@@Itzy91 wow that's odd.... Because I am sure my like made it hundred 😂...... Anyway hope u r doin good ❤
Seriously... and freed up sooo much more space in the living room. The sliding door should be in the inside of the bathroom, not the outside. You could have a proper couch in there with storage underneath it as well. Sometimes it is just too much design. It isn’t even a question of form over function because the form of those stairs is bad as well, what a claustrophobic way to get to the loft!
yeah it would've made more space for sure
That curtain is killing me.
And what is the use? What is it concealing? From whom? Completely pointless...
Just not necessary
@@heavenlymilano, it helps seal the smells when cooking
@@VinceIsDatBitch Oh God! Why did you remind me this design? It is by far the worst in the channel lacking beauty and functionality at the same time. The curtain? 5 months later, it still looks drab. We all know that cloth is not very effective in sealing gases.
@@lafabricadebodas Let's say it is ugly all over. I wouldn't wish that place to my enemy.
not a fan of the cobalt blue floor, especially combined with that burgundy curtain
Was thinking that but otherwise a nice space.
Reminds me of the Clinton Oval Office
I actually like that they added a little color. Too many of the apartments on this channel are boring in that all the surfaces are white, or all raw plywood, or otherwise all the same color.
@@MrBeaux I like that they added color, but that blue floor doesn’t do it for me! Then, the burgundy curtain and the lavender couch makes the color combo even worse!
And also the purple sofa cover. These colours combination looked super awkward. 😅
1. Red curtain and blue floor is a no no.
2. The "dining table" is positioned weirdly in relation to the TV - if you sit on one of the sides, you can't watch the TV because it's too close to your face. At the same time, you can't reach the table if you sit on the sofa. I'm not a TV person anyways, so whatever.
3. The "sofa" seems a bit too small.
4. The ladder takes too much precious space in this already small room. Also, my friends and I would probably hit our heads every time we got up from the sofa.
5. This is supposed to be a student place right? But where are you supposed to study? There is no desk!
my thoughts exactly the same!
1. i like blue floor, but I would agree that used colors don't match,
2. I don't get why they put TV in. I mean: how many students would use it. I had one in my rented flat during the uni, and we turn it on twice in half a year we lived there;
3. sofa should be made all the way to the wall
4. yes, they should make stairs a little differently, maybe make more steps to the landing area, stairs would start a little higher and there would be more space for sofa. And stair look really nice, but I would open space with only steps with low railing, but that would need some work with the wall, now it is separate construction - easier to do
5. in the library? or using that small table? or in cafe (after corona)...
@@MaraMara89 Libraries close and a lot of people can't concentrate surrounded by others. Studying in a cafe every day would also get very expensive, esp for a student. And a small desk also wouldn't be preferable, as you need books, notebooks, room to write, a computer/laptop and a planner on there. If you study architecture, art or another kind of design you'd also need a large surface to make your designs. Which you also can't do in libraries or cafe's
@@canwejustnot Good point with that not-so-common studies. To be honest I made it through my first 3 years of studies having little table (half of it exactly - because I shared a room) and be sitting mostly on the bed - because table was stucked between two beds. I know that small table isn't perfect option - now I have big desk in my office and I am still using windowsill sometimes - but if you are in need to have small place like that you can make it. Buying a trolley/kitchen helper (I mean something like NISSAFORS from IKEA) on wheels and with shelves can help - it will also be usefull as coffee tabel near sofa and can be put aside easily. And maybe I am wrong but I do think even studing architecture you can do a lot of work on your computer nowadays. maybe they could use something like NORDEN table from Ikea - I have it in my 30 square meters flat - if it is folded it is around 30x80 cm like a console and fully open can seat 8 people.
Still: I do think it is good that they showed that flat, because it is a lot cheaper to do than most of their projects - most of the work you can do by yourself. that shows that livable tiny house isn't possible only if you have a lot of money. And if you would be doing something for yourself you can adjust it to your needs
I agree with all your points. I think 2 could have been easily solved if they used a modern TV and a mount that was more flush to the wall. Though students would not care to be without a TV and use their laptop instead...
I can only imagine how many times I hit my head against the stairs whilst sitting on the "sofa". Helmet is a must :))
The staircase is a waste of space. Especially since there's nothing to do up there but sleep. So you're only going to use it twice a day or so
Indeed, should have installed a European staircase, or just left the ladder. A European staircase takes up just a little more space than a conventional ladder But is easy to use, and safer
You can bring a lady upstairs for some fun. She might appreciate the staircase.
@@u.v.s.5583 no she wouldn't, she'd see this place and run
Staircase is taking alot of space.
A wall-hung ladder will do, i think.
I thought the same thing. Stair taking too much room. Ladder or spiral better. Makes room for a larger couch.
Ladder is not for everyone... and a hassle if you’re drunk or need to pee in a jiffy, spiral staircase might seem a good solution but the circumference hampers efficiency in such a narrow space.
I don't think there is enough room under it to sit comfortably.
This is so true. Kind of a waste but it has character anyway.
This is the first small space that does not look comfortable. The stairs look over designed and painfully sharp, almost gold alchemy. The wood proportions are off, if the barn door has to slide into a box (?) line up the edges. Would love to see some measurements on the floor plan.
A cross between a prison cell and a sleeper train carriage....I could not imagine being quarantined in such a claustrophobic space
that's for sure
Especially as most prison cells in first worlds countries are a toned down version of this micro apartment.
It should not be allowed to live in such a small space, with nearly no windows. And the heat they have in summer directly under the roof with no ventilation! Crazy!
lol interesting way to describe it
Idk I kinda feel anxious watching this.. the colors, the stairs, and I think the idea of opening the toilet for natural light gives me anxiety of smell, I also feel uncomfortable if I were studying in this room.. but thankyou for sharing this, I always love your channel
Anxious, yes. I had never seen a video of a living space that made me this physically uncomfortable. There's no windows! I felt trapped watching a video. Damn, scary movie directors wish they had this kind of power over audiences.
I really can't imagine living in here under lockdown! It's too tiny and many materials look cheap such as the floor and the curtain. Students deserve better spaces I think, even in Milan
Somebody invented this just yo live off student rent and would expect the student to leave on weekends and during holidays
"Cheap"? You mean "affordable"?
All anyone does around here is bitch about how "expensive" the renovations are, as if for whatever reason they think renovations are free; but anytime NTS shows a small place with a low-cost renovation, people shit their pants over how "cheap" it is?
This place was made for a student. Any student should be thankful to get an inexpensive, newly renovated place in such a populous city.
You don't wanna live here? Ok, fine! Don't! This wasn't made for you anyways.
Anyone else anxious about dropping a phone through that hole next to the bed?
The first thing I thought....and my Mac.....and the dog.
And don't put anything on that top shelf
They forget about the most important aspect of the space; a place to actually study.
That table looks OK for studying to me
@@vladoflincec agree! Another thing is why didn’t they even fit in one stove in the kitchen. Students still need to eat
@@agnespethes that table will not fit a laptop, books, reading material, pens etc.
@@agnespethes as a student myself, you highly underestimate how much space and materials you end up needing. If you seriously want to study, you don’t want to be moving things back and forth just to have enough room. This may be student accomodation, but often they tend to me more expensive then other rooms because of their convenient location so you would want to get your money’s worth and have everything you need. Take this pandemic for example most universities and the facilities are shut and for a lot of students who signed on a 6+ month lease are stuck studying online with what they’ve got.
@@agnespethes if there is so much room to study as you say, why would you use the University library instead? Also don’t lecture me on what is and isn’t enough space to study in, because you’ll find many people agree with me
I’d hate to live in a place without windows you can actually look out from. Just windows on the ceiling. Makes it a very uncomfortable depressing place.
I am OK with no window, as long as there is enough air to breathe. With no window, you get no fresh air.
Feels like suffocating
Agree. The shelf in the second floor takes too much space
Hate the micro "couch" shoved under the prison-like staircase, and that they left just enough space for your phone to fall through the gap in the sleeping area. Overall this one is just extremely depressing and seems like an awful use of space. Who wants the nicest part of their apartment to be the bathroom?
I think they cant move the bathroom becuz of the pumbling, considering its an old buildings, and it looks like ita on top floor, its would be difficult and costly to move do another pumbling
Agree! That stair makes the space look so much smaller and cramped.
That they didn't find a solution for getting the humid air out of the kitchen makes this a bad place for cleaning up. All the oil u use in cooking will get onto the cupboard, the wardrobe and eventually even into the living and sleeping area. Just eww
And the wardrobe is right there where you cook!
The probably assumed a student wouldn't cook much and mostly eat at the uni cafeteria, but I knew so many students who still cooked regularly. This kitchen is designed for people who don't cook.
Some wasted space & you are definetly hitting your head when you sit on that couch.
And its ugly... Cero practicality for a student. Why opening doors when it can be sliding doors?
Would you like to use this opportunity to apologize?
It looks like their inspiration was a 90's cubicle office space. I know it's for a student, but this isn't a space I'd be bragging about.
It feels outdated and cold. I don't think any student would enjoy this space.
Why do you feel the need to brag? It’s a Temporary shelter for a student.
Save money so you can buy a condo with larger space living and then you can brag.
Taking liberties calling that square foam under a metal staircase a “Sofa” 😂
It looks like you could easily brain yourself with that metal staircase.
Feels like a ship cabin.
Tiny houses on wheels know how to make great use of staircases, I'd love to see something like that in here.
My thoughts (having lived in a dorm 3 years, and studio after): the stairs are too bulky and too dark, I would rather use movable furniture that one can rearrange according to the needs instead of all those built-in, and definitely a frosted glass door for the bathroom to keep the natural light from that tiny window without seeing the sink. Blue floor? No! No no no. Same for the burgundy curtain and all that laminate wood. It's all _eating_ the light instead of bouncing it.
Super interesting insight!
I must admit I found this depressingly small: the sofa only seats one and is the wardrobe in the kitchen?
The sofa is actually a chair. It will only look like a sofa if you're feet are up facing the entrance to the staircase.
This the first time I really disliked the design.☹️
@@sdgidney4139 Fetal Position is preferable it seems
@@DemarcoElliot perfect for a student to cry whenever they fail a test or something as well :'v
It's just terribly designed.
It's surprising how much has been squeezed into that small area, though I agree with other commenters that there's a lack of study space and comfortable seating. I suppose I'd spend a lot of time in bed while studying. As also noted below, this is better than sharing a run-down one-bath apartment with four or five others.
I'm sorry, i don't like this at all. The staircase looks like something from a prisoncell 🙈 And the colors, damn, it's so wrong. It looks better before the renovation.
Have I just spent 4 hours watching their videos? Yes.
Do I regret it? Also yes. I have a test tomorrow that I should be studying for.
The color of the floor + curtain kinda gives me anxiety! C'mon keep it light and a little student friendly. It should feel fresh and warm.
ahahah yes!!! totally agree
I was thinking they couldve done a warm tone -similar to the wood for the floor or even black to match the stairs. Then the curtain could a nice light color. And bam, it wouldnt look horrendous
Should've designed the stair case like tiny homes do, to incorporate more storage space into them. I'd have the stairs narrower with cabinets under them, have a section of it open up to reveal a TV/monitor and under that have a desk surface that flips up to study at. There would maybe be enough room for a comfortable sofa.
Its such a waste as it is atm. Can't event use the wall space to ahng stuff cause of the stupid bars.
what kind of architect thinks painting the floor in one single color, and have that color be BLUE, is a good idea? it´s like the floor on my kindergarden...This one was a terrible, terrible adaptation.
Agreed. They took a “spacious” space and made it into a claustrophobic space with no nice design features. Must have been made on a tiny budget
Finally the sub 40m2 apartments are getting the attention they deserve on this channel. Not the best one, but not another big apartment. Thank you
Not a big fan of this one. A lot of nice ideas but not the correct space for them. Color palette is off as well. Over all it seem over crowded and not sleek or modular. The sliding door was the biggest concern for me. Thanks for sharing though.
This looks extremely uncomfortable and cramped
the space below the staircase and the landing looks like such a good place to cry
My new standard for judging these videos: could I be in a COVID lockdown in this place? This one fails the test.
I recently bought a micro appartement, 9sqm, it's a challenge and I love it. This channel keeps giving me some inspiration !
I can see the idea and the skills required to pack all of those functions into 10-14 sqm, but I still feel that forcing people to live in such a closet is not really moral
No one is being forced, you can always share a bigger place or go solo and pay accordingly. What you won't have is central location + large, unexpensive individual accommodation, so you'll have to consider your priorities.
No one is being forced, you can always share a bigger place or go solo and pay accordingly. What you won't have is central location + large, unexpensive individual accommodation, so you'll have to consider your priorities.
if my professors saw that I put a seating area underneath a staircase, I would have already failed architecture school
Sad waste of a lot of the space, especially considering how small that place is but thanks for sharing.
To all non europeans or non asians here, having this kind of space is the norm for lots of students and even to lots of young workers in big cities
The apartments showcased on this channel are charming when they’re designed by or for the intended resident of the home.
This episode has the bitter taste of landlords experimenting with what they can get away with. It will be a tragedy if more efficient design in use of space becomes just another tool for landlords to exploit renters.
i agree, the apartment is beautifully designed but that little space is inhumane. design is being used to mask greed.
Very impressive. What I like best is that old buildings are not tore down. I wish here in America we showed more interest in saving old architecture. Well done!
Love the kitchen ! So tiny but somehow so comfy.
I know this wouldn't suit everyone, but I personally would have prefered using a ladder incorporated to the wall to go up the loft, which would alow more space into the living area that feels tiny to me as it is. In my opinion, the stairs just take too much place visually.
But using a ladder everyday is not to eveyrone's taste, so I understand the choice of stairs, I would have wished for it to be more discreet though.
Student housing. They might have been concerned that a ladder wouldn't have been as safe.
Nice design! I just wonder why there is no proper desk in some way. I mean, I really need to have a desk as a student.
I live in Milan and rest assured that this is not a place a student could afford.
@@DavideTarasconi well, that makes this apartment even worse then...
@@DavideTarasconi How much would the apartment cost?
The ledge under the TV seems like a waste of space. I feel like it maybe could have been extended and turned into a desk. The TV also seems useless, since there’s not a proper place to sit and watch it.
@@arvidjohansson3120 it really depends on the location, I couldn't get where in Milan this place is based on the building they show outside, but similar apartments can go up to €180k starting from no less than €80k or so.
As a student, in your room you only really need two places: the main place is your desk, with the computer, your books, notes, things you use every day; and the second place is the bed. Who needs a TV when you have a laptop and a smartphone? Who needs this wooden structure which they call "sofa"? Who needs this staircase which takes half of the room? As a student, I lived in small places, but this one - I would not live in, thank you very much.
I appreciate the effort to reuse an empty space under the roof, but this was clearly not designed for students. First of all the only library is the one next to bed (really small I should say), the times are changing and as students the books are being replaced by digital material but you do need some space for the books/notes, moreover the table seems uncomfortable (you can't even look outside of the window to take a deep breath of air, especially in these periods in which the libraries are closed). The one-seat sofa is really depressing, you can't even invite one friend over to drink a beer :/ The closet in the "kitchen" ? Why would you like your clothes to smell like onions or whatever you are supposed to cook? The colors and use of wood make the space look smaller than it already is.
As a student I would prefer to live with other people in a larger house (paying less I suppose), instead of this.
I think this space is ok for short-term bnb use or someone who needs just a space to sleep and that's it.
While I agree with much of the criticism in the comment section this did achieve something very noteworthy; it's the first space covered in this channel that actually matches the name. In every other video you have people commenting that "it's not even that small" or something to similar effect, in this one people feel it's too cluttered. As a tiny house enthusiast I certainly agree their use of space could have been more effective but I hope this episode indicates the channel will cover more spaces in the future that are actually "Micro."
Turns out it can be too small :/ I've seen jail cells with more love and care put into comfort.
How was the food in your jail cell then?
who chose these colors ?! Can someone explain me where do you store your clothes in this flat ? Looks like students don’t need many clothes hahah not a big fan of this restoration
As a big man with claustrophobia, I would have bumped my shoulders trying to climb that staircase and immediately got a new dorm room
giving the circumstances and the context, i think its an ok apartment for an estudient. I would prefer the stair to be a little less of a cage, maybe just having the estructure on the side of the wall. Also, the side table of the bed could have a different design so the natural light could enter easily to the bed.
they did a good job, but a place with no visuals to the exterior is a big no for me.
Sorry ngl, this home is the definition of depression
and anxieties
Totally dude
I so agree
No actual windows, you would go insane in a couple of months
Like I can imagine a loft to be cozy. Like having your bed up there, some nice lights and stuff. But this design just destroys all the possibilities of making it cozy
Yasss!!! Finally you make videos about micro apartment (under 20sqm) ❤️ thanks
I actually found this to be quite fascinating and liveable contrary to most comments here.
This is an important design. I live in a dense urban setting surrounded by thousands of people that would love a place like this to call home. Most city dwellers spend a lot of their time outside of the home and only minimal accommodations are needed. Sleep, eat, relax and bath are the only things I do at home. Work, hobbies, exercise and socialization are all done in a different place.
As far as the stairs go, they could have followed the tiny house movement and used a ladder. Make the upstairs space a study nook and with the space you have now reclaimed from no black, metal monstrosity, could put in a futon sofa/bed.
Better than a ladder or a stair, I mean a conventional stair, is a European stairway, also known as an alternating stair Step system. Google it, you will be delighted. For some reason they are rarely done. I am doing one right now for a client and I have two in my home. They are totally illegal in America as with just about everything else in this bureaucratic nightmare. For my clients I do these things on the sly, whether they be a government loving liberal or a government hating conservative, ha ha! One thing you need them for sure, if the bureaucracy is going to affect their freedom and their pocketbook, they will go underground.
It's a clever use of space definitely . But perhaps this is the first really too small apartment on the never too small channel. :) Tye wardrobe next to the kitchen is a bad idea, I think. I wonder if it could have been switched - the wardrobe to be on the base of the stairs and then some sort of spiraling stairs or a ladder to the platform. And yes, study space is missing, too.
so it's not a clever use of space, because you've already pointed out 3 major flaws with it.
@@SchizophrenicFrankie No, overall I still think that given what they had in the beginning, they did a good job. The cleverness comes from even being able to come up with this setup in such a small space. The three points are just things that I don't like or wouldn't do (although I'm not even a designer).
She described the bed as "the protagonist". I love architects. :D
Finally some real practical interior video (after several days since I first click on 'Little John' video).
I think we may have found a limit to the idea of **never** too small.
Like if IKEA did prison cells.
NOT commenting about the project - But am amazed with the consistency in the way ALL the videos on this channel, are shot and edited. Even more commednable since the shoots are probably being remote managed during the pandemic. Even the way the Designer opens cabinet doors and then gently walks away is precisely the same across ALL videos - WOW!
I don't know where all these complainers studied but my dorm was smaller and we shared the bathroom and kitchen with four persons. This is a luxury villa compared to mine and in Milan of all places. I could study at my university so no problem with the size, the colour or the stairs. It's beautiful in a designed way.
Brilliant compact but everything you need! The sky light is a key design
There may have been some regrettable design decisions made here. From my point of view this is a great example to learn from 😊 And it’s still an improvement from the original uninspired “design”. I’d rather live in a Japanese Train than in some furniture storage room 😂
I would have loved an apartment of this size and with this layout when I was in graduate school.
It's less than 3x5 room and wow that looked soo spacious. Good job on the architect and interior designer
This is the first one that I actually think IS too small.
A wardrobe right next to the kitchen. What an amazing insight!
Since I love bacon, I'll always smell like it.
Lovely project btw.
As much as I like the design of the metal staircase, I think an alternating tread staircase would have been a better option. The built ins and the materials are done very well and the design details are well thought out. I commend them on getting a washingmachine into such a small unit. And the motorized window and blinds are a nice touch.
Dear Clark: I thought I would never see someone else mention an alternating staircase, also known in America as “European staircase.“ It is almost always the best solution to a small sleeping space or space that is not used frequently.
Wow, I’m surprised at the many negative comments! If I could have had my own kitchen and bathroom in such a small space as a student, I would have been very happy! Even your own washing machine! There is plenty of space for books and clothes as well. A different color curtain is an easy change. I would have opted for a ladder probably so you have more seating space. Still, the majority of student housing I have seen is so much worse. Maybe depends where you come from.
Staircase is amazing. It's there but its transparency making the room look spacious.
Finally a really small apartment... not a huge fan of the blue floor, but I think they did a decent job, given the size!
The metal staircase would be the one thing I would replace. I've seen much better solutions for climbing to the sleeping loft. A retractable staircase or ladder would be better. Also the seating space underneath the staircase looked constricted. The big loft window was an excellent choice allowing plenty of light into the apartment.
The floating box is definitely got my heart!
I appreciate how they develop a very small space. Some people have a lot of comments about the stairs, color of the floors or whatever. But I really like it. I can live there.
I don't think I like that there is only that one window in the ceiling.
The layout makes me feel claustrophobic, tbh. Cant wait to get out of there for some air.
Honestly, I don’t see any design in this space. Maybe on the stair structure for being geometrical, but as of the rest, it’s lack of design and warmth. It actually looks like a DIY(ish) a landlord could make. There are tons of ideas you could approach to make this a living proof that tiny spaces can be nice and aesthetically pleasing.
Very well done, only criticism is the lack of desk space and being a current uni student I cannot emphasise enough how crucial that is. Would like to see the couch area being widen and exhchanged for a desk.
Please change background of your plans impossible to see anything
This is a very smart and spacious looking design. I read a lot of comments about the stairs, but I think it was designed out of need, to meet building regulations. The Loft bed is too high for a ladder to meet standard (and renewed) building regulations. In The Netherlands, this kind of height requires the same regulation as stairs leading up to a floor, meaning it must have a railing. I think the same goes for Italy and perhaps it is an EU rule.
Hey thanks for pointing that out! That could very much be the (stair)case. Eheh
I saw a lot of "suggestions" or rather, complaints abt it but... I gotta say, for them to reconstruct everything that much is great. Just look at how it was in the first place, it's a miracle it looks much better.
The motorized skylight is very cool
Not very good design i think... It feels lot more conjested and somehow feels like a cage, considering that floating stairs, small loft space and yeah no window....maybe they could have provided a different zoning and they forgot the most important thing - a study space considering the apartment is for a student.
No student will spend their time on that apartment
It kind of reminds me of a vip train room/cubicle. Really prefer the floating stairs to be smaller? The sofa looks cramped and uncomfortable to seat two people. The person sitting would probably bump their head multiple times on it. That staircase space could’ve been good for storage- clothes and misc or a study desk (since this is place is intended for students. The closet in the kitchen could just be used as a pantry and for other misc items
Having lived in Milan for 3 years, and knowing how expensive it is to even afford a double room there, nevermind a single room, it doesn't surprise me that an "apartment" as small as this exists in the city. Probably there's even smaller ones, and the landlords charge a TON for them. I was enjoying some of these tiny houses videos, but this one brought back NIGHTMARES
The reworking
The window is awesome.
I’ve lived in smaller places that felt way larger. Architects need to try to live in the design they’re working on so they can realize what the heck they are doing.
Change the color of the curtain, flooring and the cushion, that would be a nice Japanese apartment.
wish i had something like this when i was a student
NTS anche qui in Italia! Bello! Era ora! È vero che come dice la ragazza nel video l appartamento è pensato x studenti xké passano molto tempo fuori casa. Ma non si dovrebbe comunque passare tutta la vita rinchiusi in casa. Appartamento molto bello e minimalista. Spero che le tiny house prendano piede anche qui in Italia.
The flat is not bad, maybe just a little tight in the hips...
And, seriously, a pandemic lockdown in such a place is a future challenge for psychiatry.
Love your videos! Super relaxing style of cinematography
this is a great use if such a small space,,, really sad to see so many negative comments in the past couple of videos. looks like people who genuinely dont like small spaces nor see the use in renovating one have found this channel and filled it with negativity, how sad. but i think a lot of us can still see the beauty in innovation. small spaces aren't meant to be perfect or the most over the top comfortable and forever-homes. they accommodate people that can afford only that in the tine being, in the classiest way possible.
keep it up, as always is a joy to see and dicover new architecture that makes this world a little bit more interesting.
I was hoping for a wider bench under the TV, this way the student can spread out and study. Otherwise, a very nice flat. Albeit small, the student can function in this space without much hindrance.