Just gotta say, one of the funniest things I've ever seen is when Batman is screaming "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER" but punches Bane before he can even speak again. It's the best.
The moment in The Batman that really sold me on Battinson was him staring at the one kid at the funeral. He says nothing and we don't get a flashback to his parents or anything but you immediately know what's going on in his head
I loved that too, but I hated how they kept showing that kid repeatedly throughout the movie for absolutely no reason. He's just some unimportant nobody we know nothing about. They should've just showed him the 1st time and that's it.
@@reversalmushroomHe was the son of the first victim we see. Bruce relates to him because crime also took his family. The boy grounds Bruce and is ultimately what helps him realize he can’t be Vengeance. The boy is the first to grab his hand after he saves them, it’s significant because he took the first step to show fellow citizens that it’s okay to trust Batman.
people responded well because a lot more people than Hollywood thinks don't need everything spoonfed to them. it gives you a delight when you get to connect the dots on your own, and a lot of movies outright deny us that pleasure because they think we're drooling morons (or the person writing the script is)
The reveal of the batmobile in The Batman is a cinema experience I'll never get to experience for the first time again, the abrupt cut of the music to only hear the bassy rumble and siren scream slowly ascending as the turbine charges is terrifying, and the lingering reaction shots of everyone just shocked sells it so perfectly
The Dark Knight is a master class in how you write a well-earned one-liner for your hero. By the time you get there, when Batman says "No, but I know how you got these", you hate the question so much you cheer at the answer. It's so well done.
Can I just say that I absolutely love this new trend of Marcus changing the background music depending on how much he likes or dislikes the thing he’s currently talking about? It really elevates this video and I hope he keeps doing it
Something I truly love about The Batman is just how much context it gives aspects of Batman that are typically just handwaved as being stuff Batman does. Him staring silently is not only due to his personality but also an important aspect of his function as a detective, he's ensuring that his lenses can get as many details as possible and it gives him that feel of being a nocturnal predator. He's not doing it because "he's Batman" he's doing it because it makes perfect sense for him to do so.
In conjunction with this, one of my favorite aspects of this movie is showing Bruce Wayne slowly gaining the skills we’re used to Batman having. To the point that once he attains them, the movie stops making note of them. One example is his tracking in stealth. At the start of the movie we have a whole ass sequence of him stalking Celina and learning everything about her. We see exactly how he learns to track people and surprise them with the classic appearing from the darkness act. By the time we get to the third act of the movie, Batman just starts appearing places with no explanation or establishing scenes. Because at this point, the movie expects to remember and understand Batman’s process. Another aspect is Bruce learning to use his brains over his brawn. There are a total of 3 scenes in this movie where Bruce approaches Falcones Nightclub. First as Batman, where he tries to brute force his way in and fails. The second when he shows up as Bruce Wayne and talks his way into speaking to Falcon. And the third one where he sneaks in disguised as a worker and doesn’t put his Batman suit on until he’s properly into the complex. Seeing these behind the scenes moments makes it perfectly natural when Batman starts showing up in places he shouldn’t, because we’ve already seen how his experiences of failure in this movie have made him a better Batman. I think it’s amazing that this movie gives substance to the Batman gimmicks by giving us a peak into what Batman is like before he figures them out.
when i saw the batman in theaters, it was a fully packed house, and i could not stop laughing when riddler says “thanks to everyone for the tips on making bombs” or something like that. i was THE ONLY ONE laughing in an entirely packed theater. it’s the funniest joke in the movie by far and no one ever talks about it.
I once saw a Hatsune Miku animation for the "woooah... pipe bomb" meme, and the top three comments were: - omg your animation is so good!! - how did you get so good at animation?? - HOW TO MAKE A *PIPE BOMB* (followed by detailed instructions) Internet comments are full of the best and worst kinds of nutcases lmao
One thing I love about Batman 2022 is his relationship to the cops. In most Batman stories, he eventually gets in the cops good graces, and you sort of suspend your disbelief about it. Batman’s a good guy, the cops are usually good guys, makes sense for them to team up. But in ‘22, as soon as he enters the first crime scene you’re hit with the obvious absurdity that the police allow this costumed maniac to help them solve cases.
@@crimsoneclipse0618exactly. Gotham is full of bad or crooked cops, so not only is this third party who could rat them out appears, but he would embarass them as not just crooked but useless without him to the public. Next time they are putting 6 warning shots in the skull of a minority people be heckling them saying Batman must be handling all the real crimes.
I love how many scenes there are in the movie where background extras are visibly weirded out by Batman's appearance. You can spot the forensic people doing double takes and during the civilian rescue scene at the end a bunch of the crowd are nudging each other and pointing at him. My favorite is the main forensic guy trying to walk around Mitchell's corpse and having to stop because there's a weirdo in a costume standing in his way. "Excuse me" lol
I know people clowned on it a lot prior to its release but one of the most fascinating aspects of Pattinson’s Batman is that he was unironically inspired by Kurt Cobain, and that Reeves and Pattinson genuinely meant it. The song they chose for the score perfectly reflects Batman’s sense of isolation and self inflicted pain, and there’s a much realer, more disturbing and tragic element of knowing what happened to Kurt and seeing how little value Bruce places on his own life, how hopeless he seems. It helps his arc of rekindling hope all the more impactful because you know he still carries that pain and may never fully heal, that he might relapse, but it gives you hope. It might be the one time I’ve seen a piece of popular media utilize Nirvana because it genuinely understood the message instead of using it because it was popular and a shorthand for “edginess and looking cool”
every time i rewatch The Batman and that song plays I get chills. It captures the darkness of this version of Gotham so perfectly, it's so befitting of this version of Batman even down to the lyrics. One of my favorite instances of a copyrighted song in a movie
But why? Cobain and Batman have nothing in common, it was just a goofy rationale for the fact that reeves had no vision and made probably one of the dumbest superhero movies ever made
Robert Pattinson does not get enough credit for his acting job as Batman. He completely becomes the character almost as much as Colin Ferrel does with the penguin. It’s just Colin’s character has less screen time so it stands out more I feel. His acting with just body movement and especially just his eyes is insane. Robert Pattinson is one of the best actors of this generation that no one realizes yet. He’s truly a chameleon especially if you’ve seen his other movies. I have full 100% faith we will pull off the “playboy” Bruce persona and still keep his Batman that grungy and grounded
Poor Mr. Pattinson's *still* somewhat dogged by having been in _Twilight_ even though I'm pretty sure he hates that franchise more than anyone. At least it seems like more and more people have started to take him seriously over the last five or so years since, yeah, he's a surprisingly great actor as someone who also used to be one of those people.
@@MusicoftheDamned I think everyone has forgiven him at this point with the release of the boy and the heron. He's proven himself as a good actor and I'm excited to see him in future projects.
The editing on “The Batman” intro had NO RIGHT GOING THAT HARD. You’ve inspired me to watch and thank you for not spoiling anything super critical to the story.
The scene of Bruce begging his parents’ grave for permission to not be Batman and be with the woman he loves in Mask of the Phantasm is one of my favourite Batman moments of all time.
Something I love about Phantasm is how Bruce putting on the Batman cowl for the first time isn't framed as triumphant. It's Bruce after he's lost every chance he had at living a "normal" life. This isn't a man becoming a hero. It's a man at his lowest point.
Especially considering Alfred’s reaction to Bruce putting on the mask. He’s watching a man, his friend, his surrogate child, completely dedicate the rest of his life to become an agent of vengeance. Efrem’s delivery of Alfred’s “My God…” is excellent.
Not to mention it was the birth of the "Bat glare", used for years after to strike fear into the hearts of criminals everywhere. Little does anyone know it was born from such a low point in someone's life. Makes you wonder what it says about the criminals who see it and feel fear.
Yeah, that whole movie | two-parter episode is basically a tragedy, especially how we know both Bruce and Andrea end up and with them being equally alone in the end. After all, the last lines of the movie are from the random guy on the cruise ship who stumbles out on deck, sees Andrea looking out at sea, apologizes, and asks if she wants to be alone for her reply to be that she already is. Hell, this is the very same movie where we hear Bruce admit, maybe for the first and only time aloud, that he never expected to be happy to his parents' grave as he's begging for their forgiveness to stop being Batman.
I honestly never realized Jokers pride as being central to his character, but looking back, it totally is. One of the best portrayals of it is in Batman Beyond Return of the Joker. When Terry starts making fun of him, Joker just starts losing it. In Jokers eyes, its not Batman dropping down to the level of petty insults, its just some punk kid basically cosplaying. He can't stand that and he gets so worked up that he loses control, playing into Terry's plan.
I always loved how The Batman shows how a guy like the Riddler could gain a following of goons and its by far the scariest portrayal of a Batman Villain gang we've had so far. They're portrayed less as a generic group of thrugs who happen to follow a badguy but more as a equally as unhinged, fringe group of disassociated people and its eerily evocative of how real life mass killers have had openly warned people on the internet and even gotten support before doing do. If you saw the scene in the movie with all the comments about the viewers giving suggestions of what guns and stuff to bring to the ending which was essentially a mass shooting then you'd know just how intense this movie feels. I used to really dislike how so much Batman media has the villains gangs basically just be generic criminals with maybe a clown mask or something but this movie truly makes the group Riddler has feel entirely unique
That's also why I loved the finale of Joker. I always wondered how these villains would get support from so many goons, but Joker inspiring an uprising of mentally unhinged freaks by murdering a man on live TV was epic. He inspired people in the opposite way that Batman does. Seeing him stand on top of that cop car with fire all around him, drawing a smile on his face in blood while people in clown masks cheer him on is one of the most striking visuals in any comic book film imo
one of the most underrated things about the dark knight was how insanely well it was marketed in the lead up to the release. i remember seeing the 'why so serious' poster literally everywhere back in 2008
He's honestly my favorite part of Begins. When he's losing his shit cause Scarecrow poisons him, it's so damn good. RIP Tom Wilkinson. He was a damn good actor, and a fantastic Falcone
imagine if Gordon had stopped him before he got out of the water and said "I can see you have a future among us after all, lighting the way for the citizens of Gotham" XD we got so lucky with this film. @@JustanotherNPC8454
@BlackMageLozi What? Do you think batman only saves characters we know? They're not "randoms" they're gotham citizens, yknow, the people batman protects.
If your wondering why the Killing Joke has the Batman Batgirl romance, it's because it's directed by Bruce Timm who is the biggest patron of the ship, and he'll push it if Paul Dini isn't there to stop him
In the Batman Beyond comics, Bruce got Barbara pregnant and she had a miscarriage. That's canon to the DCAU. Probably the most egregious pushing of the worst ship I've ever seen.
It's actually directed by Sam Liu, but Timm does have a producer credit and you could definitely believe he didn't put up any resistance to the Batgirl subplot
I cannot stand the Barbara-Bruce romance, and for the life of me don't understand why it keeps getting randomly pushed. Like my God, Bats and his sidekicks are literally called the Bat Family in common parlance...meaning people are basically shipping a father with his daughter. Or at least a niece with her uncle, if we wanna look at Jim as a sort of brotherly peer to the Batman. Forgot the New York-Chicago debate, Gotham is clearly set in Alabama.
there's also the reality that a woman willing to put her real life on hold to be a superhero isn't exactly going to be the first one to "shit where she eats" so to speak -- sleeping with someone who is practically her boss isn't a great idea. to have her do it anyway is to make the entire character seem, you know, like a dumb emotional girl who can't trust her own instincts, not a self-assured grown woman. fantasies are just fine but the real character wouldn't want to do that, ask any woman with sense
What I loved so much about The Batman is that you could trace every shot, put it in a graphic novel and it would still read well. Shot composition and lighting is staggeringly good
The scene where the Penguin is lying on the ground and Batman is walking over to him and his theme is just blasting... batman straight up seems like THE villain. His theme is so menacing, i goddamn love it
My only complaint with this video is on Alfred. Alfred, and Bruce were traumatized by Rachel's death in The Dark Knight. I definitely don't think Aflred just decided to not want Bruce to be Batman anymore. He saw that Bruce was suicidal, and couldn't bare to see him go through that
@JustanotherNPC8454 I mean sure he did that in the comics, but at no point in the trilogy does Alfred do that. It might not be parlell to his character in the comics, but I think it makes sense in this universe. My only argument is that he definitely didn't just decide to leave. Rachel's death really traumatized Alfred too. Not just Bruce
I'm low-key offended that you didn't mention how good Cillian Murphy is as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow. I really wanted him to be the main villain of Dark Knight Rises. He was right there to the point that he had a cameo (which is my favorite scene of the movie). It would even explain why Batman needs to come out of retirement. He knows what Scarecrow is capable of doing so he's the one able to save Gotham from him. Or maybe I just wanted more screen time for Cillian Murphy.
Yep, Cillian definitely deserved that chance. I always thought Scarecrow could've been Bane's partner instead of shoehorning in Talia al Ghul, and the entire third act would've been way different for the better.
Scarecrow is such a cool concept for a Batman villain. He's just like Bruce in the sense that he uses his childhood fear to strike terror into the hearts of his enemies, in the right hands this could create such a cool dynamic between the hero and the villain. Yet he's almost exlusively used as a means to have the fear toxin in the show/movie and not much else.
While Murphy's Scarecrow is criminally underated I feel like it would of been kind of cheesy if Scarecrow finished of two Batman trilogies, the Dark Knight rises and Arkham Knight
LEGO Batman unironically still comes off as underrated to me. It's wildly impressive how despite the comedic tone it oozes so much understanding of Bruce's psychology and has a lot of in-jokes to the character's history that balance out the more mainstream humor with a lot of validation for people who know the Batman lore. That and Will Arnett is genuinely a great Batman vocally. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him in something more tonally in line with something like a Batman animated series or direct to video film outside the LEGO version It's also wild that this is the only recent film outside B&R that actually managed to do the Bat-Family and it worked way better here
Completely agree. It is by far the best, funniest, and most entertaining Batman film to me. And I don’t even like Batman that much. But I can tell that there was a lot of love put into that one, and if it was my first Batman film, I probably would’ve been a fan.
Underrated is definitely right. You know why I watched Lego Batman? I saw the movie playing on the back of someone's seat on a flight. The explosion animation looked so amazing I had to check it out. It blew me away, I don't know why everyone hadn't been hyping the shit out of that movie.
The one thing I've always wanted from live action batman movies is to have robin. He's a totally underutilized character when it comes to any live action portrayel. He's a great contrast to batman and it works to humanize him in a very endearing way. It's a perfect storyline for an older jaded batman who's been through it. I think the dark knight rises could have been a better movie if they actually had Dick Grayson in it.
Lil tid bit of info here: In Batman begins, it’s not just the suit that makes Batman look “thicker”. Bales bulked up big time for the role. I think he himself was like 20-30lbs heavier in Batman begins than in the last two Nolan films. Just throwing that out there.
Even more impressive, knowing it was on the heels of his insane weight loss for The Machinist. Bale will forever have my respect for the pain he endured for those two roles.
Truly amazing ranking and entertaining video I forgot it was an hour 19 minutes long it was so good
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Non of that really shows on costume, only when he's shirtless. Bale didn't loose too much mass between movies but TDK looks significantly thinner and it's all because of the suit.
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@2012smartiesyou mean the versions of Batman that are purposely made to act out of character?
Kevin Conroy’s batman was such a big part of my life. Watching reruns of btas and justice league with my dad as a kid, playing the arkham games as a teenager and my parents recognizing conroy and hamill’s voices, and playing the injustice games in my early adulthood. When i found out he passed away. I couldn’t help but cry because of how impactful and special he made the character of batman to me. His work in the dcau truly left a standard for interpretations of batman, and I’ll always admire his work.
He wasn’t a huge part of mine but he was already there. Never realized he was my Batman for many of the games I played and the Justice League animated series. I’m playing through the Arkham series of games right now and realized it was him. Always there and it’s so sad that he’s gone
I know exactly how you feel, I cried pretty hard when he died, then I watched Batman Beyond all day to try and feel better. I grew up watching the animated series and beyond, and I've been obsessed with the Arkham games since I got my hands on Asylum a few years after it was released.
I never met him but by all accounts he was a really great person too. But yeah, even if you didn't realise it, Conroy was full time Batman, actors would come and go but he was always there if you grew up in the 90s and onwards. Such an iconic role.
@@ericgropuisnot sure if you’re aware but Kevin’s good friend Mark Hamill has played the joker in 3/4 of the Arkham games with Kevin. The only Arkham game they weren’t involved in was Arkham origins.
Kevin is my batman not Bale. This is the batman I always wanted they took all his best elements as a character and removed all of his unnecessary flaws that brings his character down like Talia.
I saw The Batman alone. Only the second time I’ve ever done it in my life and will never forget sitting there after all the anticipation. The movie starts, it’s dark, it’s raining, Gotham looks like a shit hole and Pattinson utters the first sentence of the opening monologue and I am grinning like I’m 12 years old again. I knew I was in good hands and immediately thought “ya I’m going to love this”
I also watched it by myself. It was my first time ever in the cinema alone and when I got out I felt all dark and broody and had an inner monologue like Batman. I was 24 years old btw lmaoo.
They called him Ra's instead of Raysh because that's more accurate to Arabic. "Ras" is the word for "head" and "ghul" is an Arabic word that roughly translates to ghoul/ghost/demon, and is the origin of the English word "ghoul." So Ra's al-Ghul roughly translates to "Head of the ghoul" or "Head of the demon." I'm Arabic and I honestly really appreciate that Nolan made this change.
Huh...I always assumed that since BTAS had a story that was directly adapted by the creator of the character that it had the correct pronunciation...but this makes me wonder if he didn't bother to check the pronunciation of the word when he came up with the idea of the character.
@@sunrise.systemremind me as a Hebrew speaker whan reading dune . How people sayed the name qwuizat hadarhk is from Hebrew And im like: no its fucking isnt Years later i learen its a very weird way to say : the short way Or kichoor hadereh
When I first heard the opening monologue in The Batman, I knew I was gonna enjoy my time with it, when I saw the scene of Batman entering the crime scene and all the cops are just confused and weirded out by him, I knew it was going to be great. It took itself serious enough to understand that's how people would actually react to a real life Batman. Then he's the smartest person in the room during the investigation and the last shot of him looking at the kid, I felt like it was made by someone who really loves Batman and understands the character. It's so damn good!
@@PunoBendito that's an interesting response, I've definitely heard that before because of how well liked it is and I've talked to some friends who didn't enjoy it as much as I did. What's your favorite Batman movie?
@@TartarusPitt The Lego Batman movie is by far the most comically accurate(outside of the fact Batman is a clown but that’s allowed because it’s a Lego movie).I do think The Batman is a good movie but it’s massively overhyped.Everyone talks about the things it does good in the movie but never addresses the major flaws in the movie(The fact Batman is WAY too ok with being shot,the fact he doesn’t care about human life,the fact they make him seem dumb while trying to make him seem smart)
@@PunoBendito 1. Hes ok with being shot because hes inexperienced and cares more about doing it fast than effective 2. He obviously cares about human life. Maybe not at the start of the movie but the literal point is for him to learn the value of human life 3. They make him seem smart by solving many of the cases but they also allow him to make mistakes which is intentional
@@PunoBendito That makes a lot of sense and that's honestly good criticism that I haven't heard before. I took most of those qualities that we usually assume Batman to have, that this film lacked, as him being inexperienced since I think it was only his second year being Batman? But I see what you mean and when I watch it again I'm curious if I will come to similar conclusions!
The shot in The Batman when we’re seeing Gordon at the ‘Meeting Place’ set, and Battinson just morphs from the silhouette of the pillar and we realize he’s been in the shot this whole time, it’s just 11/10. The Batman is The One. I loved your video, this has been such a fun watch, I’m definitely saving this vid to my “Emergency Serotonin” playlist because I fuckin love Batman and I love your take. The Sauce😂. ❤
An underrated detail I love about the opening scene of The Batman is with the guy in the scary looking ghost mask. When he’s robbing the convenience store, the light shows how he’s the scariest guy in the room. But when he runs out and looks up to see the bat signal, most of the light around his mask disappears as he becomes completely overcome by fear. That shot where he’s just standing totally frozen and scared conveys fear better than anything I’ve ever seen in a comic book movie.
REAL! You cant even see his face and yet YOU DON'T NEED TO. The body language on the actor and the fantastic lighting does it all, just seeing him stand there as Pattinson, with biting MALICE in his voice hisses the word "fear," you can almost feel the blood draining from his face.
Something I really enjoyed about Battinson is that Bruce Wayne felt like the disguise whenever he wasn't in his Batman suit. Like Batman was the true identity and Bruce Wayne was just a way Batman got around in the public without drawing attention.
But it’s clear that he hates this disguise, he was only Bruce in public for two times throughout the entire film, the mayors funeral he was forced to show up, and going to see Falcone he was completely lost and didn’t even care about anything.
The young Bruce is just filled with so much anger that he identifies as vengeance, he hates being Bruce he just wants to be the bat, but by the end of the movie he grows out of it so I’m sure the next film we will see a more confident Bruce actually taking care of Wayne enterprise
Battinson felt like he didn't even know how to be Bruce Wayne, in an intentional way, like he hadn't developed the rich playboy persona yet and was only 100% Batman and vengeance. The perfect year 2 Batman performance.
1:16:12 I completely agree. I used to not care too much about Batman using guns, until I saw the scene in Batman Beyond where Bruce is so disgusted with himself that he even pointed a gun at someone that he gives up being Batman.
Harvey's introductory scene in TDK is so over the top, I burst out laughing every time. The guy disarms a mobster, punches him in the face, disassembles the gun, and delivers two super rad lawyer lines to a round of applause from the gallery. I half expect him to turn around, grab Rachel by the waist, and open-mouth kiss her like Ash at the end of Army of Darkness. Nolan is not about subtlety.
Shit still fucking rules tho. I know it’s goofy as hell but when the whole scene is literally just so earnest with the “This is GoodGuy McLawyerMan. Check out how sick he is” that it just works. I love it.
The line that still absolutely murders me with cringe is suggesting the mobster next time he should buy American when talking about the gun. The kind of line you'd hear from a fictional lawyer whose tie is the American flag, and from what I've heard we don't even make good handguns. Also wow that was just too damn convenient for him, the gun fucking up like that.
13:02 Small detail, but I really love this quick edit that introduces The Dark Knight. The beautiful shots, the cuts matching to the intense music, I just like when Marcus gets to be clever and flashy with his editing.
I would highly recommend you check out Gianni Matragrano's _Columbo in... "Death Note"_ video. It's a short so it's less than a minute, and it genuinely understands both _Death Note_ and _Columbo_ in a way that's hilarious and insightful (it's written by someone else, but they're linked in the UA-cam description).
Personally I think the Internet is unanimously dumb if they unironically think that. imo its just one of those "wouldn't it be funny if the lighthearted comedy guy caught to super serious edgy boi" thing's.
@@Firestorm422 But Columbo isn't a 'lighthearted comedy guy'. It's a legitimate detective series where Columbo puts in the work and solves ludicrous crimes; yes, he's a funny and quirky character, but that's kinda the point and helps because the killer doesn't take Columbo seriously.
@@MrStath1986 You're right. But that's not the point. The point is that the internet (and in large part mostly Tumblr and Twitter so go fucking figure) THINKS it is.
I enjoyed the concept of Batfleck resorting to guns/killing in Darksied's apocalypse, but I feel like it was cheapened by him already having been okay with killing people before the world even ended.
Especially when contextualized with the fact that Snyder directed it. Batman resorting to guns? That can be interesting if it is truly an absolute, end-of-the-world last resort. But knowing that Snyder doesn't like comic-accurate heroes just makes it feel like he really wanted an excuse to give Batman a gun
Batman breaking his no kill rule in an actual apocalypse out of sheer 😮desperation could’ve been very interesting. But, Batfleck already callously and needlessly murdered dozens of people before Darkseid, so it’s nullified.
I’ll never forget the day when my family was on vacation in Washington DC. We were at the Smithsonian and saw a big banner for The Dark Knight playing in the museum’s IMAX theater. We begged our parents to let us go, but my mom was adamantly against it because she thought the Joker was too creepy. Mind you, I was the youngest kid there of four, and I was 13. So we missed out on our chance. A few months later, my brother came home with the DVD and we watched it. My mom walked in halfway through and was so invested in whatever the scene was that she made us start over from the beginning. By the end, she said “that was a really good movie.” I threw my hands up and said “and we could have seen it in IMAX.” Biggest L my parents ever gifted me.
Yea man I was 8 when The Dark Knight came out so I unfortunately didn't get to see it in theaters. In fact, the only Batman movies I've seen in theaters are The Dark Knight Rises and The Batman. Definitely understand not letting an 8 year old see it but I so wish I did
I remember talking to my friends about how important it is that The Batman is bookended with opposite interactions with a person Batman has saved. It feels so cool to hear someone else talk about it!
So glad Cosmonaut included that Batman Beyond scene at 28:23. It's such a brief but effective scene, and a believable reason why Batman would finally hang up the cowl.
Yeah, Batman giving up the cowl should be such a dramatic moment for him. Batman Beyond's explanation is perfect. It wasn't just that he physically couldn't do it anymore, he was put into such a bad situation purely because his body could no longer take it that he had to resort to the *one* thing he's hated most to save himself. That's how you end Batman's career. He doesn't stop cuz he's just over it, he gives up because him continuing is more of a detriment to everyone else than it is a help.
BRO IM SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT JOKERS PHILOSOPHICAL MONOLOGUES ON ANARCHY ARE JUST BS. IVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS FOR YEARS LMAO HE ISNT CHAOTIC HES PLANNED EVERYTHING THE ONLY THING HE DOESNT LIE ABOUT IS THAT HES DOING IT FOR FUN. A stand up comedian is a comparison I also use for him because the way Stand ups go on stage and make their entire act just feel like a one way convo where the jokes just flow but in reality the comic has been slaving and meticulously working these jokes for years.
One thing that I’ve always loved about Marcus’ videos is how they are edited, especially the little clips and references he puts in are alway such a delight to see and they brighten the videos up so much! He’s so incredibly funny and the random video clips just help elevate that a lot!
I think the BEST part about The Batman despite it not really having a true Bruce Wayne(YET) is that they really understood the assignment with showing us that Batman is his real identity. It’s gonna be really interesting to see how he decides to build the facade and what that would even look like in this world
This is a common misconception about Batman/Bruce and it’s one Marcus doesn’t agree with either (to whatever degree you care). Saying that Bruce is the true mask is cringe lol and goes against everything the character stands for.
@@Fash0da The Bruce Wayne the public sees is the mask. The people close to him (batfamily for example) that get to see the "real" him are treated the same whether or not he has on the cowl. Sure, in the field he will be more professional, but that's because he's "on the job." When it's less urgent, even if he's working in his base or something, he acts largely the same to those around him he is close to. This, I think, is where people get the idea that Batman is his real identity. It's not, the real him is somewhere in between (and why those who are close to him are treated the same regardless of him wearing the cowl), but it is closer to his Batman persona (aka what he shows to criminals and to a lesser extent people like the police outside Gordon) than his Bruce Wayne persona.
@@Fash0daI think having Bruce be the real mask in the early part of his career when he's still obsessive and learning is cool as fuck, and slowly learning how to be Bruce and making Batman the mask as time goes on is a really solid and weighty arc
The film lays the seeds for where his Bruce Wayne will go in the future. It's all intentional. The Mayor-elect says "your family has a history of philanthropy but you aren't doing anything" Bruce in this film is obsessed with being Batman. There's no separation. His hair is long and unkempt, he's barely sleeping, his eyes are bloodshot. He doesn't even care about his own company/family legacy. Even when he goes to the funeral, he's in detective mode. He's Batman 100% of the time. In the sequel he'll probably start to take an active role in providing funds to improve the city, as well as establish more of a public persona that's separate from who he really is. It seems like a lot of people can't piece that together...
What I loved most about the costume in The Batman was that it made him look so strange. He looks so weird when he's in the apartment with the cops. It's like he's a cosplayer that wandered onto the scene of a crime and it helps sell the idea of the cops not liking him. If you didn't know who the Batman was, you would think he was a psychopath.
Cool detail in Pattinson's Batman movie is that at the beginning, there are two scenes of someone looking through the binoculars, but they're slightly different. The second one is Batman, but in the first one we never see their face - we just hear the sound of Riddler's spooky breathing. That paralell is a foreshadowing of the movie's ending, where one of the shooters tells Batman and the cops he is "Vengeance", connecting to Batman's first line in the movie.
Interesting fact about The Batman: Paul Dano was cast as the Riddler because of his performance as Brian Wilson in the fantastic biopic Love and Mercy, which makes sense given both the Riddler and Brian Wilson are essentially two halves of the same coin. The moral of the story is that The Beach Boys make everything better, inadvertently or not
I'm so glad you brought up Joker's "agent of chaos" speech being a blatant lie, because I get so confused whenever I hear people say "man, he's so right" and I'm just like "but... he's not, though... am I missing something? Am I the idiot?" Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy.
That speech is tied for me alongside Agent Smith's "Humans are a virus" dialogue to Morpheus in The Matrix for movie speeches from a villain that people will be like "Damn that guy is totally right" even though the whole point in the movie is he's not.
"Do I look like a guy with a plan?" Yes, sir, you do. Literally everything you've done has been planned. The first scene of the movie is showing us your perfectly executed heist plan that leads into all your other plans, including the conclusion of the film that is an extremely elaborate plan trying to prove a point to Batman.
Yeah back in the day when I was still finding it absolute cringe when friends and acquaintances alike who were like obsessed with this movie, constantly repeating Joker quotes like these all the damn time and I was always just like ..... but all he ever does in this movie is make plans and then executing them. He plans an elaborate heist that he alone ends up walking away with all the money, he fakes his death just to be planted in the house of that one guy who put a bounty on him just to monologue and then kill him, he blows a fucking hospital in broad day light all while turning Harvey to the dark side and keeping the cops and Batman occupied with forcing the public to kill that one who was gonna expose Batman's identity, he intercepts a police convoy - purposely gets caught and also planned a getaway with a bomb planted in the stomach of guy of a guy who works for him and who also got arrested- all while he kidnapped Harvey and Rachel and had them set-up with explosives. Joker should seriously consider being a DM sometime, I think he'd be fantastic at it.
I don't know, I think that was the time/scene, or one of two scenes, where he was pretty much sincerely telling the truth, it seems pretty consistent/accurate with his actions and philosophy overall and yes at least 90%+ plus of viewers do take it literally/sincerely.
My favorite thing about the Battison suit is the lack of a neck covering. It is clear how much easier of a time he was moving his head around compared to Keaton and even Affleck and Bale.
I swear, the sequence from The Batman where the halogen light flickers to life and then illuminates the rest of the machinery for the Bat-signal is such an awesome piece of filmmaking. The sound design, the colors, and then pulling out to see the effect it has, it's all so awesome.
@@jonesjavontaeChekhov's Gun was an example used by Chekhov several times in his letters to discuss efficient use of narrative space and avoid unnecessary story elements that don't contribute to a story. The example being, if you have a loaded gun in the first act, it must go off in the second or third act. Over time this has evolved in culture to also refer to an element set up early in a story that pays off later. Chekhov's Gun is more of a thought experiment to demonstrate a concept than a definitive example; he did use such a set-up in one of his plays, Uncle Vanya, but have 99% of people ever even heard of it? Hardly definitive. I'd also guess that a majority of people who use the phrase Chekhov's Gun don't know who Anton Chekhov is in the first place, in the same way that people refer to Murphy's Law or Godwin's Law. I also don't think Batman's wrist blades are the definitive example either, though, but at the very least they are a relatively iconic example of the concept used in an actual story that people have heard of, lol.
One more thing I love about RobBat's Batman is how you see him come to terms with the fact that being a billionaire recluse has made him miss important details too. The fact that he didn't know what a tucker is, (because he's a lil rich boy and why would he?), means that he completely missed the Riddler's last clue with the map of Gotham under the carpet. Like he had to be told by a police officer who happened to be there, and he was pretty dismissive of police officers other than Gordon in the movie too. Like, just 👌👌👌👌 My favourite Batman ❤❤
it kinda feels crazy that my favorite batman films are the batman and the lego batman movie. they’re both perfect batman stories, just in wildly different ways lmao
Holy shit same. I am so excited for the future of that series, especially since I think that will lead to us finally getting a live action Robin that is as good and accurate as Batinson’s Batman.
The Batmobile reveal in The Batman had me giggling so hard. It's really like seeing the killer in a slasher movie for the first time. Such a badass moment.
I think the problem with Nolan is that he is more interested in storytelling than in telling stories. He is a film geek who loves to experiment with techniques to create original scenes and many of them are great, but he feels less interested in using those scenes to say something. Watching a Nolan movie rarely makes me feel anything beyond: "This is cool."
Nolan casts very broad strokes in his storytelling for sure. He’s a film geek that latched onto the technical aspect of filmmaking whereas someone like Tarantino is much more wrapped up in character portrayals and dialogue. It shows in their films. It’s pretty rare for a director to just have the full package of skill, but lacking skill in one thing and excelling in something else is often what gives directors their unique style and vision.
Yeah his best films are almost always the ones where he has someone else writing with him or it’s an adaptation of a book/event where theres an inherent message (Oppenheimer being the best example.) Every filmmaker has their flaws but its fascinating that Nolan’s are almost completely overshadowed by his own sheer brilliance when it comes to action, tension, cinematography, etc.
I think he generally does try to say something and the structure and cool ideas are centered around an abstract idea, too. But I do think his character work is weaker than his ability to come up with neat little twists.
I worked at hot topic when the newest film came out. A dude probably in his 40s came up with a shirt from the movie. I asked him how he liked it and he said "sparkle boy did a good job". Burned into my mind forever. I love you Robert Pattinson
37:15 that’s not what happened. He still wanted to kill Joe Chill after Rachel said that. It wasn’t until seeing him get gunned down when he would realize on his own that killing him wouldn’t have accomplished anything. Bruce was literally approaching him moments away from pulling the gun out. Seeing him get killed is what changed his mind not Rachel.
It's sad that Pattinson's Batman doesn't get enough recognition because of his past in the Twilight movies and because he's the "newbie" Batman, but he's already the best Batman on my eyes and definitely has the potential to reach a legendary status
I kind of like that Robert Pattinson is known as "the Twilight guy" Because that way, it's literally a jumpscare when you realize that the man is actually a magnificent actor.
It's really a shame because he'll never make it because of TDK fanboys who watched the movie when they were 12 and superhero movies still sucked then, and because their ego won't let them give Pattinson a chance. Damn shame on both counts
I feel like mostly everyone loves him now. It's a tale as old as time, people hated him when he was cast, then the movie came out and he smashed it outta the park.
I just want to give props to Markus's editing in these. The little musical intros to every batman sent chills down my spine. I really believe this is your best video you've made. Take all the break time you need man, you've earned it.
1:07:10 This is genuinely one of my favourite scenes in a Batman film. It's so simple and so good. Batman has become such a symbol of hope for the downtrodden of Gotham that this woman would literally prefer to stay with him then be airlifted out of a flooded disaster zone by medical professionals. It's SO damn good. It nails Batman as a hero perfectly. Goddamn.
Joker's Favor is one of my favorite episodes. That car chase after the guy cussed out the Joker was hilarious to me as a kid, but as an adult who understands just how dangerous the Joker can be, it's absolutely terrifying.
One thing about The Dark Knight Rises, I will be a Tom Hardy Bane truther forever. I absolutely loved Hardy’s super quotable, over the top, campy but also intimidating performance. When this movie came out I felt like I could quote every single Bane line, there are some seriously iconic lines in there. Also, I don’t think there’s ever been a more dripped out villain than fur coat Bane.
Yes, this! Bane doesn't get nearly enough love. He's one of my favorite villain performances ever, not far from Ledger's Joker. His voice his demenor, his whole body language. It's such an all out performance.
Yeah. Super disappointed he didn’t give Hardy any credit for his Bane when he had a clear impact on pop culture at the time simply because he was so awesome.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who couldn't fucking understand what bane was saying half the time. I mean, I watched the movie on a plane so that could be a part of it.
I remember watching The Batman in theatres, and in the scene when Batman saves the criminal from falling off the building after catwoman pushes them off, I could hear an audience member whisper to their friend “why did Batman do that” and their friend responded “Batman doesn’t like killing people”. That guy understood the character of Batman more than every movie he’s been in before 2022.
The Batman 2022 was absolutely insane to see in theaters. I agree with basically everything you said regarding the first scene and how Pattinson is portrayed. Every time he was on screen I was just thinking "Wow. THIS is Batman" Genuinely so good.
I actually like the Begins portion where Bruce considers killing Chill. He's 19-21 at the time, just an angry misplaced kid, and Rachel treats him like the stupid kid he is being. She tells him to look past his own pain, because he's had a mansion and a butler to sulk with for a decade, and the kids on the mob-run streets just have to accept their troubles and live around them any way that they can with very little hope, comfort or change involved. This opens his eyes to the point of a confrontation with Falcone where he looks around and sees just how much of the city and therefore the average Gotham city resident is under the boots of these people. He also realizes that not only did Joe Chill's death not give him any peace, but also that it likely facilitated further suffering in the grand scheme of things. Basically forces him to grow up and causes him to go on a journey of self-discovery for another decade where he realizes his life's mission and returns to gotham reborn in both a legal and metaphorical sense, the Bruce wayne we know and love. The conversation they have about vengeance vs justice is an important one for Bruce's story as it cuts right to the fundamental difference between him and Ras and why he rejects that cause. The only thing I don't like is that Holmes isn't the strongest actress and it would have been nice if Gyllenhaal would have gotten the role sooner. But otherwise I agree with nearly everything else in the video, great stuff!
Yeah, I like the idea that Batman was THIS CLOSE to becoming a murderer and was pulled back by happenstance and a philosophical eye opener. Batman was forged he wasn't born.
I'd argue showing that Bruce is just as capable of "thinking" to use a gun on Chill makes the fact that he never does again a lot stronger. Begins does overdo having Bruce getting lectured by someone about his morals a lot but showing how much he disappointed himself and Racheal for having those dark thoughts made him very human.
I feel like it’s just that it’s Katie Holmes telling him to not kill that makes it not work for me. I think if it was Maggie, she would’ve delivered the lines better and it would’ve felt more serious. With Katie idk it came across as a little cheesy or a little over the top given the subject matter. It’s like a parent punishing their teenage kid. Doesn’t work imo.
Dear Marcus, as someone who has suffered from the stupidity of Twitter, I'm happy to see you survive the constant pressure and demands of your weird fans and decide to not let the video be delayed another week. I'm very grateful for the more than 2 hours of content of the bats. I will enjoy it until the end. Also, DON'T DARE TO QUIT MAN. EVERY YOUTBER IS LEAVING US IN JANUARY.
My take on Alfred's sudden flip in the 3rd Nolan movie is: it isn't sudden at all. He was ride or die Alfred in the first movie, a little less so in the second, and by the third it had been eight years. Bruce was walking around depressed, with a cane, mostly scar tissue and brittle bones. Of course he wanted his son to settle down, be happy, and maybe even have kids. Nothing strange there
The Batman deserves top marks if solely for the fact that the black eye make-up under the mask is *diegetic* in that movie. Robert Batmanson canonly looks like he came home from an mcr concert after a night of crime fighting and I love it.
"Deliciously detestable" has become one of my most said things when it comes to movies. Whenever i see a good villain, this is the first thing that comes to mind.
What I would give to experience The Batman, especially the batmobile sequence, in theaters for the first time. No rowdiness or cheering from the audience. Everyone went DEAD SILENT and had their jaws on the floor. Nothing will ever leave me as speechless and exhilarated as that reveal and chase sequence did.
I am so glad I was not the only person who felt Robert’s Batman was like watching a comic book. The rain with narration reminded me of sin city and max Payne. Such a vibe.
The collar in the battinson suit actually solves one of my main issues with the movie suits. Thick neck means no head movement but also it’s out of balance with his legs, if you ever see the promo photos of bale standing in the begins suit he looks like he has short legs (not helped by the long cape trailing on the floor) this doubly applies to afflecks suit. And the dark knight has good movement but it messed with the silhouette, and gives him a bit of a bobble head. So I think The Batman suit manages to solve a lot of problems. (Also helped by a thin cowl, solves the big head little legs problem)
I was watching a video on the design of the Batfleck costume and how the designers had to go through all these complicated hoops to design a cowl that allows for the head to turn, and then The Batman comes along and is just like "here, has a longer collar, boom, done" and it ironically works better because it feels like something an amateur (albeit a wealthy amateur) would make, rather than something a costume designer would engineer.
One wee thing I loved about The Batman is the look of Bruce with the smudged eye makeup. All the onscreen Batmen wore eye makeup, but they never showed it without the mask. It both looked cool and was appropriate.
Just gotta say, one of the funniest things I've ever seen is when Batman is screaming "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER" but punches Bane before he can even speak again. It's the best.
“Now TALK!”
The voice was already a meme at that point but seeing this in the cinema for the first time was absolutely hilarious
“Where’s the trigger” is still my go-to line to make fun of Bale’s Batman voice lol
The moment in The Batman that really sold me on Battinson was him staring at the one kid at the funeral. He says nothing and we don't get a flashback to his parents or anything but you immediately know what's going on in his head
I love when movies do that. When they let us connect the dots on our own. And The Batman is full of moments like that.
I loved that too, but I hated how they kept showing that kid repeatedly throughout the movie for absolutely no reason. He's just some unimportant nobody we know nothing about. They should've just showed him the 1st time and that's it.
@@reversalmushroomHe was the son of the first victim we see. Bruce relates to him because crime also took his family. The boy grounds Bruce and is ultimately what helps him realize he can’t be Vengeance. The boy is the first to grab his hand after he saves them, it’s significant because he took the first step to show fellow citizens that it’s okay to trust Batman.
Perfect example of show don’t tell
people responded well because a lot more people than Hollywood thinks don't need everything spoonfed to them. it gives you a delight when you get to connect the dots on your own, and a lot of movies outright deny us that pleasure because they think we're drooling morons (or the person writing the script is)
The reveal of the batmobile in The Batman is a cinema experience I'll never get to experience for the first time again, the abrupt cut of the music to only hear the bassy rumble and siren scream slowly ascending as the turbine charges is terrifying, and the lingering reaction shots of everyone just shocked sells it so perfectly
I also like how they tease it throughout the first half of the movie, like you see the engine still being worked on and the whole car under wraps
It’s like looking into the eyes of a nocturnal predator
The way the cinema just rumbled under the roar of the batmobile was just...
indescribable.
I love being able to accurately describe a car noise as "A Ghostly Wail"
Ash Thorp really designed the hell out of the Batmobile
The Dark Knight is a master class in how you write a well-earned one-liner for your hero. By the time you get there, when Batman says "No, but I know how you got these", you hate the question so much you cheer at the answer. It's so well done.
Heath Ledger died 16 years ago today. RIP and thank you for giving one of the best acting performances of all time.
It's honestly sad that he didn't live to see how greatly revered his performance was
I’m still torn up about Tom Wilkinson and Sorkin :’(
Meh.
@@ggt47shut up
His one of those people you really new would just get better and better, very sad
Can I just say that I absolutely love this new trend of Marcus changing the background music depending on how much he likes or dislikes the thing he’s currently talking about? It really elevates this video and I hope he keeps doing it
agreed
It's cool how he made Matt Reaves' Batman a little fancam
Super elevated The Dark Knight and The Batman segments.
Its like the sad theme music when an NFL game goes to a commercial because of an injury
I thought he’s always done that?
Something I truly love about The Batman is just how much context it gives aspects of Batman that are typically just handwaved as being stuff Batman does.
Him staring silently is not only due to his personality but also an important aspect of his function as a detective, he's ensuring that his lenses can get as many details as possible and it gives him that feel of being a nocturnal predator. He's not doing it because "he's Batman" he's doing it because it makes perfect sense for him to do so.
In conjunction with this, one of my favorite aspects of this movie is showing Bruce Wayne slowly gaining the skills we’re used to Batman having. To the point that once he attains them, the movie stops making note of them.
One example is his tracking in stealth. At the start of the movie we have a whole ass sequence of him stalking Celina and learning everything about her. We see exactly how he learns to track people and surprise them with the classic appearing from the darkness act.
By the time we get to the third act of the movie, Batman just starts appearing places with no explanation or establishing scenes. Because at this point, the movie expects to remember and understand Batman’s process.
Another aspect is Bruce learning to use his brains over his brawn. There are a total of 3 scenes in this movie where Bruce approaches Falcones Nightclub. First as Batman, where he tries to brute force his way in and fails. The second when he shows up as Bruce Wayne and talks his way into speaking to Falcon. And the third one where he sneaks in disguised as a worker and doesn’t put his Batman suit on until he’s properly into the complex.
Seeing these behind the scenes moments makes it perfectly natural when Batman starts showing up in places he shouldn’t, because we’ve already seen how his experiences of failure in this movie have made him a better Batman. I think it’s amazing that this movie gives substance to the Batman gimmicks by giving us a peak into what Batman is like before he figures them out.
@@Gearhead966Now that is what origin stories should do to stay relevant.
@@Gearhead966Great points. God I love this movie
@Gearhead966 Now I'm definitely in the mood to rewatch this movie. God it's so good
@@Gearhead966Generational movie
when i saw the batman in theaters, it was a fully packed house, and i could not stop laughing when riddler says “thanks to everyone for the tips on making bombs” or something like that. i was THE ONLY ONE laughing in an entirely packed theater. it’s the funniest joke in the movie by far and no one ever talks about it.
he was in his influencer arc
The generic positive comments on his stream are hilarious too like “don’t forget the cling wrap!” and “rifles are good!”
@@MediumPapi66the fact that they’re relevant to the plot too is hilarious
Thumb drive??
I once saw a Hatsune Miku animation for the "woooah... pipe bomb" meme, and the top three comments were:
- omg your animation is so good!!
- how did you get so good at animation??
- HOW TO MAKE A *PIPE BOMB* (followed by detailed instructions)
Internet comments are full of the best and worst kinds of nutcases lmao
One thing I love about Batman 2022 is his relationship to the cops. In most Batman stories, he eventually gets in the cops good graces, and you sort of suspend your disbelief about it. Batman’s a good guy, the cops are usually good guys, makes sense for them to team up. But in ‘22, as soon as he enters the first crime scene you’re hit with the obvious absurdity that the police allow this costumed maniac to help them solve cases.
Yeah i always thought it was stupid how cops are so accepting to a guy wearing a fucking bat costume trying to do their job 😭🙏🏻
@@mohd5853ywah, and obviously they'd have beef with the vigilante who keeps one upping them and solving cases they couldn't.
Also, the fact that it dropped the First Ever F-Bomb in the Batman Franchise’s History.
@@crimsoneclipse0618exactly. Gotham is full of bad or crooked cops, so not only is this third party who could rat them out appears, but he would embarass them as not just crooked but useless without him to the public. Next time they are putting 6 warning shots in the skull of a minority people be heckling them saying Batman must be handling all the real crimes.
I love how many scenes there are in the movie where background extras are visibly weirded out by Batman's appearance. You can spot the forensic people doing double takes and during the civilian rescue scene at the end a bunch of the crowd are nudging each other and pointing at him.
My favorite is the main forensic guy trying to walk around Mitchell's corpse and having to stop because there's a weirdo in a costume standing in his way. "Excuse me" lol
I know people clowned on it a lot prior to its release but one of the most fascinating aspects of Pattinson’s Batman is that he was unironically inspired by Kurt Cobain, and that Reeves and Pattinson genuinely meant it. The song they chose for the score perfectly reflects Batman’s sense of isolation and self inflicted pain, and there’s a much realer, more disturbing and tragic element of knowing what happened to Kurt and seeing how little value Bruce places on his own life, how hopeless he seems. It helps his arc of rekindling hope all the more impactful because you know he still carries that pain and may never fully heal, that he might relapse, but it gives you hope. It might be the one time I’ve seen a piece of popular media utilize Nirvana because it genuinely understood the message instead of using it because it was popular and a shorthand for “edginess and looking cool”
every time i rewatch The Batman and that song plays I get chills. It captures the darkness of this version of Gotham so perfectly, it's so befitting of this version of Batman even down to the lyrics. One of my favorite instances of a copyrighted song in a movie
But why? Cobain and Batman have nothing in common, it was just a goofy rationale for the fact that reeves had no vision and made probably one of the dumbest superhero movies ever made
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@@brandonkissir5414he spent a whole ass paragraph explaining how Bruce and Cobain are similar and you ignored it
@fleetwoodcraic4235 she, actually, but thanks like come on I spelled it out why they went with Nirvana lmaooo
Robert Pattinson does not get enough credit for his acting job as Batman. He completely becomes the character almost as much as Colin Ferrel does with the penguin. It’s just Colin’s character has less screen time so it stands out more I feel. His acting with just body movement and especially just his eyes is insane. Robert Pattinson is one of the best actors of this generation that no one realizes yet. He’s truly a chameleon especially if you’ve seen his other movies. I have full 100% faith we will pull off the “playboy” Bruce persona and still keep his Batman that grungy and grounded
He’s gonna be one of those disaffected Gen Z icons like Billie Eilish or something. Perfect fit for a modern Batman.
Poor Mr. Pattinson's *still* somewhat dogged by having been in _Twilight_ even though I'm pretty sure he hates that franchise more than anyone. At least it seems like more and more people have started to take him seriously over the last five or so years since, yeah, he's a surprisingly great actor as someone who also used to be one of those people.
@@MusicoftheDamned I think everyone has forgiven him at this point with the release of the boy and the heron. He's proven himself as a good actor and I'm excited to see him in future projects.
Robert Patterson is one of the best Batman’s ever to be honest but he’s not better than the goat, Kevin Conroy🥺
bro was cooking in the lighthouse too
The way that Columbo is on the “Catch Kira” list has literally made me ascend
me pausing the video to look for all of my favorite detectives in there like harry, benoit, phoenix and battler
nardwuar was the one that sent me, that man would absolutely know
You know Adam West would be the best at catching Kira
@@morgangunning30 "Light, I have a gift for you, do you recognise what this is?" *pulls out death note*
columbo would play kira like a damn fiddle
The editing on “The Batman” intro had NO RIGHT GOING THAT HARD. You’ve inspired me to watch and thank you for not spoiling anything super critical to the story.
Yo what song is that
@@henri71208d audio (kens)
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@@henri7120 Archetype - Anno Domini Beats
It's Archetype by Anno Domini Beats!!@@henri7120
yes what song was that please
The scene of Bruce begging his parents’ grave for permission to not be Batman and be with the woman he loves in Mask of the Phantasm is one of my favourite Batman moments of all time.
Damn, I haven't watched it but imagining the scene hits deep
@@marzeloperas I’d highly recommend watching it. Personally it’s my second favorite Batman movie.
The Mask of the Phantasm is an incredible great film
I agree, this scene show's his dedication of the promise he made..
Something I love about Phantasm is how Bruce putting on the Batman cowl for the first time isn't framed as triumphant. It's Bruce after he's lost every chance he had at living a "normal" life. This isn't a man becoming a hero. It's a man at his lowest point.
Especially considering Alfred’s reaction to Bruce putting on the mask. He’s watching a man, his friend, his surrogate child, completely dedicate the rest of his life to become an agent of vengeance. Efrem’s delivery of Alfred’s “My God…” is excellent.
Not to mention it was the birth of the "Bat glare", used for years after to strike fear into the hearts of criminals everywhere. Little does anyone know it was born from such a low point in someone's life. Makes you wonder what it says about the criminals who see it and feel fear.
Yeah, that whole movie | two-parter episode is basically a tragedy, especially how we know both Bruce and Andrea end up and with them being equally alone in the end. After all, the last lines of the movie are from the random guy on the cruise ship who stumbles out on deck, sees Andrea looking out at sea, apologizes, and asks if she wants to be alone for her reply to be that she already is. Hell, this is the very same movie where we hear Bruce admit, maybe for the first and only time aloud, that he never expected to be happy to his parents' grave as he's begging for their forgiveness to stop being Batman.
Yeah. So good. Amazing how the school movies of the past 15 years have failed to learn any lessons from what made the DCAU good.
The score in that scene is just perfect too
I honestly never realized Jokers pride as being central to his character, but looking back, it totally is. One of the best portrayals of it is in Batman Beyond Return of the Joker. When Terry starts making fun of him, Joker just starts losing it. In Jokers eyes, its not Batman dropping down to the level of petty insults, its just some punk kid basically cosplaying. He can't stand that and he gets so worked up that he loses control, playing into Terry's plan.
I always loved how The Batman shows how a guy like the Riddler could gain a following of goons and its by far the scariest portrayal of a Batman Villain gang we've had so far. They're portrayed less as a generic group of thrugs who happen to follow a badguy but more as a equally as unhinged, fringe group of disassociated people and its eerily evocative of how real life mass killers have had openly warned people on the internet and even gotten support before doing do. If you saw the scene in the movie with all the comments about the viewers giving suggestions of what guns and stuff to bring to the ending which was essentially a mass shooting then you'd know just how intense this movie feels.
I used to really dislike how so much Batman media has the villains gangs basically just be generic criminals with maybe a clown mask or something but this movie truly makes the group Riddler has feel entirely unique
That's also why I loved the finale of Joker. I always wondered how these villains would get support from so many goons, but Joker inspiring an uprising of mentally unhinged freaks by murdering a man on live TV was epic. He inspired people in the opposite way that Batman does. Seeing him stand on top of that cop car with fire all around him, drawing a smile on his face in blood while people in clown masks cheer him on is one of the most striking visuals in any comic book film imo
one of the most underrated things about the dark knight was how insanely well it was marketed in the lead up to the release. i remember seeing the 'why so serious' poster literally everywhere back in 2008
The website for it that secretly revealed jokers face was so awesome. Not to mention Gotham knight the anthology that was released on dvd.
I am thrilled someone has finally given Tom Wilkinson praise for his performance as Falcone. It’s about time someone finally acknowledged it.
Huh. Do you mean Falconey?
Every time I go to Sonic I get a chili cheese Falconey
@@Zintag Falcone, not Falconey
He's honestly my favorite part of Begins. When he's losing his shit cause Scarecrow poisons him, it's so damn good. RIP Tom Wilkinson. He was a damn good actor, and a fantastic Falcone
@@MrLightsideno, it's falconey
Your bit about the first and last interactions with civilians in The Batman perfectly sums up why I love this film and version of Batman.
The scene where Batman is leading people to safety with a flare is just too perfect. That scene alone made The Batman my favorite superhero movie
That scene alone made The Batman my favorite movie.
imagine if Gordon had stopped him before he got out of the water and said "I can see you have a future among us after all, lighting the way for the citizens of Gotham" XD we got so lucky with this film. @@JustanotherNPC8454
Your judgment is very bad, the climax of the movie is a bunch of randoms with a bomb and a flood xd.
@BlackMageLozi What? Do you think batman only saves characters we know? They're not "randoms" they're gotham citizens, yknow, the people batman protects.
@@meathandsmans he means the guys Batman fights are all randoms not the people he saves
Agreed. Kevin Conroy is easily the most perfect Bat AND Bruce ever. No caveats, no minor nitpicks: PERFECT.
Kevin is not a Batman actor he is *Batman* .
@@ggt47 totally. I always thought if he beefed up, he would TOTALLY look great on screen as Batman. Got the jaw for it and everything.
When I played arkham asylum for the first time, I was like "Oh yeah, THIS is Batman."
In the words of Walter White "You're goddamn right"
He is great in Arkham
If your wondering why the Killing Joke has the Batman Batgirl romance, it's because it's directed by Bruce Timm who is the biggest patron of the ship, and he'll push it if Paul Dini isn't there to stop him
In the Batman Beyond comics, Bruce got Barbara pregnant and she had a miscarriage. That's canon to the DCAU. Probably the most egregious pushing of the worst ship I've ever seen.
It's actually directed by Sam Liu, but Timm does have a producer credit and you could definitely believe he didn't put up any resistance to the Batgirl subplot
I cannot stand the Barbara-Bruce romance, and for the life of me don't understand why it keeps getting randomly pushed.
Like my God, Bats and his sidekicks are literally called the Bat Family in common parlance...meaning people are basically shipping a father with his daughter. Or at least a niece with her uncle, if we wanna look at Jim as a sort of brotherly peer to the Batman.
Forgot the New York-Chicago debate, Gotham is clearly set in Alabama.
there's also the reality that a woman willing to put her real life on hold to be a superhero isn't exactly going to be the first one to "shit where she eats" so to speak -- sleeping with someone who is practically her boss isn't a great idea. to have her do it anyway is to make the entire character seem, you know, like a dumb emotional girl who can't trust her own instincts, not a self-assured grown woman.
fantasies are just fine but the real character wouldn't want to do that, ask any woman with sense
Let's be honest, Alan Moore probably wouldn't have been bothered by this regarding his thing for women having sex with men twice their age or more. 🫣
Mr Cosmonaut you can't just reboot my hyper obsession with The Batman (2022) like this. I'm going to watch it another 50 times
What I loved so much about The Batman is that you could trace every shot, put it in a graphic novel and it would still read well. Shot composition and lighting is staggeringly good
Nardwuar being able to solve the Kira case is by far the most valuable piece of information I have learned from this video
He could solve it but I feel like he’s get cooked because he’d 100% interview Light and be like “well you are Kira we HAVE TO KNOW”
@@bobbyshewan4229nardwuar: a friend of yours is a big fan of apples aren’t they?
Light: 😨
The scene where the Penguin is lying on the ground and Batman is walking over to him and his theme is just blasting... batman straight up seems like THE villain. His theme is so menacing, i goddamn love it
My only complaint with this video is on Alfred. Alfred, and Bruce were traumatized by Rachel's death in The Dark Knight. I definitely don't think Aflred just decided to not want Bruce to be Batman anymore. He saw that Bruce was suicidal, and couldn't bare to see him go through that
Yeah there are a lot of things ignored here and yet ignoring the problems of Battinsons movie.
It's still out of character.
You mean the man who swore on Thomas and Martha Wayne's graves to always be there for bruce?
@JustanotherNPC8454 I mean sure he did that in the comics, but at no point in the trilogy does Alfred do that. It might not be parlell to his character in the comics, but I think it makes sense in this universe. My only argument is that he definitely didn't just decide to leave. Rachel's death really traumatized Alfred too. Not just Bruce
@@flingymingyBattinson honestly has very few major flaws, if any.
I'm low-key offended that you didn't mention how good Cillian Murphy is as Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow.
I really wanted him to be the main villain of Dark Knight Rises. He was right there to the point that he had a cameo (which is my favorite scene of the movie). It would even explain why Batman needs to come out of retirement. He knows what Scarecrow is capable of doing so he's the one able to save Gotham from him. Or maybe I just wanted more screen time for Cillian Murphy.
I 100% agree.
Yep, Cillian definitely deserved that chance. I always thought Scarecrow could've been Bane's partner instead of shoehorning in Talia al Ghul, and the entire third act would've been way different for the better.
I am to this day so frustrated at how underused Cillian Murphy’s Scarecrow is. Doubly so, given that scarecrow is my favourite Batman villain.
Scarecrow is such a cool concept for a Batman villain. He's just like Bruce in the sense that he uses his childhood fear to strike terror into the hearts of his enemies, in the right hands this could create such a cool dynamic between the hero and the villain. Yet he's almost exlusively used as a means to have the fear toxin in the show/movie and not much else.
While Murphy's Scarecrow is criminally underated I feel like it would of been kind of cheesy if Scarecrow finished of two Batman trilogies, the Dark Knight rises and Arkham Knight
LEGO Batman unironically still comes off as underrated to me. It's wildly impressive how despite the comedic tone it oozes so much understanding of Bruce's psychology and has a lot of in-jokes to the character's history that balance out the more mainstream humor with a lot of validation for people who know the Batman lore. That and Will Arnett is genuinely a great Batman vocally. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him in something more tonally in line with something like a Batman animated series or direct to video film outside the LEGO version
It's also wild that this is the only recent film outside B&R that actually managed to do the Bat-Family and it worked way better here
Completely agree. It is by far the best, funniest, and most entertaining Batman film to me. And I don’t even like Batman that much. But I can tell that there was a lot of love put into that one, and if it was my first Batman film, I probably would’ve been a fan.
If you like Lego Batman you should check out Starkid's Holy Musical Batman on UA-cam. I'm convinced the writers of the movie ripped off Starkid
Underrated is definitely right. You know why I watched Lego Batman? I saw the movie playing on the back of someone's seat on a flight. The explosion animation looked so amazing I had to check it out. It blew me away, I don't know why everyone hadn't been hyping the shit out of that movie.
Yeah like the guy in the 3000 dollar batsuit would hold the bat elevator for a guy that doesn't make that in a week, come on!
Lego Batman is a masterpiece
Been waiting so long for this! Time to get the popcorn! Thank you for the entertaining videos Marcus! I know how much work goes into these
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The one thing I've always wanted from live action batman movies is to have robin. He's a totally underutilized character when it comes to any live action portrayel. He's a great contrast to batman and it works to humanize him in a very endearing way. It's a perfect storyline for an older jaded batman who's been through it. I think the dark knight rises could have been a better movie if they actually had Dick Grayson in it.
Man I really hope they are able to build the whole universe around Pattinson and give him Dick Grayson
Lil tid bit of info here:
In Batman begins, it’s not just the suit that makes Batman look “thicker”. Bales bulked up big time for the role. I think he himself was like 20-30lbs heavier in Batman begins than in the last two Nolan films.
Just throwing that out there.
Even more impressive, knowing it was on the heels of his insane weight loss for The Machinist. Bale will forever have my respect for the pain he endured for those two roles.
Truly amazing ranking and entertaining video I forgot it was an hour 19 minutes long it was so good
Non of that really shows on costume, only when he's shirtless. Bale didn't loose too much mass between movies but TDK looks significantly thinner and it's all because of the suit.
@2012smartiesyou mean the versions of Batman that are purposely made to act out of character?
@ not true. He was 220lbs in Batman begins and 190lbs in The Dark Knight.
Future viewers will not understand the time we had to wait for this MASTERPIECE
Facts been waiting ages for this
6 years of watching this guy and finally he made this video
There have been longer waits
Nor will we care.😴😂
Savage lmao
Kevin Conroy’s batman was such a big part of my life. Watching reruns of btas and justice league with my dad as a kid, playing the arkham games as a teenager and my parents recognizing conroy and hamill’s voices, and playing the injustice games in my early adulthood.
When i found out he passed away. I couldn’t help but cry because of how impactful and special he made the character of batman to me. His work in the dcau truly left a standard for interpretations of batman, and I’ll always admire his work.
He wasn’t a huge part of mine but he was already there. Never realized he was my Batman for many of the games I played and the Justice League animated series. I’m playing through the Arkham series of games right now and realized it was him. Always there and it’s so sad that he’s gone
I know exactly how you feel, I cried pretty hard when he died, then I watched Batman Beyond all day to try and feel better. I grew up watching the animated series and beyond, and I've been obsessed with the Arkham games since I got my hands on Asylum a few years after it was released.
I never met him but by all accounts he was a really great person too. But yeah, even if you didn't realise it, Conroy was full time Batman, actors would come and go but he was always there if you grew up in the 90s and onwards. Such an iconic role.
@@ericgropuisnot sure if you’re aware but Kevin’s good friend Mark Hamill has played the joker in 3/4 of the Arkham games with Kevin. The only Arkham game they weren’t involved in was Arkham origins.
Kevin is my batman not Bale. This is the batman I always wanted they took all his best elements as a character and removed all of his unnecessary flaws that brings his character down like Talia.
YOU GET IT! YOU GET IT! FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO GETS BATMAN! I go insane with how many people don’t understand him and you love The Batman too. Great vid
I saw The Batman alone. Only the second time I’ve ever done it in my life and will never forget sitting there after all the anticipation. The movie starts, it’s dark, it’s raining, Gotham looks like a shit hole and Pattinson utters the first sentence of the opening monologue and I am grinning like I’m 12 years old again. I knew I was in good hands and immediately thought “ya I’m going to love this”
I also watched it by myself. It was my first time ever in the cinema alone and when I got out I felt all dark and broody and had an inner monologue like Batman. I was 24 years old btw lmaoo.
I got lucky and similarly was the only fellow in the theater. Fucking. Awesome.
They called him Ra's instead of Raysh because that's more accurate to Arabic. "Ras" is the word for "head" and "ghul" is an Arabic word that roughly translates to ghoul/ghost/demon, and is the origin of the English word "ghoul." So Ra's al-Ghul roughly translates to "Head of the ghoul" or "Head of the demon." I'm Arabic and I honestly really appreciate that Nolan made this change.
Also calling him "Raz" instead of "Raysh" avoids his name sounding like "Racial Ghoul"
I don't know if its racist term or a term to call racist@@MatiPryjomko
Huh...I always assumed that since BTAS had a story that was directly adapted by the creator of the character that it had the correct pronunciation...but this makes me wonder if he didn't bother to check the pronunciation of the word when he came up with the idea of the character.
co-signed as an arabic speaker. why the fuck is it pronounced "raysh" in BTAS that doesn't mean anything lmao it doesn't make sense.
@@sunrise.systemremind me as a Hebrew speaker whan reading dune .
How people sayed the name qwuizat hadarhk is from Hebrew
And im like: no its fucking isnt
Years later i learen its a very weird way to say : the short way
Or kichoor hadereh
When I first heard the opening monologue in The Batman, I knew I was gonna enjoy my time with it, when I saw the scene of Batman entering the crime scene and all the cops are just confused and weirded out by him, I knew it was going to be great. It took itself serious enough to understand that's how people would actually react to a real life Batman. Then he's the smartest person in the room during the investigation and the last shot of him looking at the kid, I felt like it was made by someone who really loves Batman and understands the character. It's so damn good!
The most overrated Batman movie of all time
@@PunoBendito that's an interesting response, I've definitely heard that before because of how well liked it is and I've talked to some friends who didn't enjoy it as much as I did. What's your favorite Batman movie?
@@TartarusPitt The Lego Batman movie is by far the most comically accurate(outside of the fact Batman is a clown but that’s allowed because it’s a Lego movie).I do think The Batman is a good movie but it’s massively overhyped.Everyone talks about the things it does good in the movie but never addresses the major flaws in the movie(The fact Batman is WAY too ok with being shot,the fact he doesn’t care about human life,the fact they make him seem dumb while trying to make him seem smart)
@@PunoBendito
1. Hes ok with being shot because hes inexperienced and cares more about doing it fast than effective
2. He obviously cares about human life. Maybe not at the start of the movie but the literal point is for him to learn the value of human life
3. They make him seem smart by solving many of the cases but they also allow him to make mistakes which is intentional
@@PunoBendito That makes a lot of sense and that's honestly good criticism that I haven't heard before. I took most of those qualities that we usually assume Batman to have, that this film lacked, as him being inexperienced since I think it was only his second year being Batman? But I see what you mean and when I watch it again I'm curious if I will come to similar conclusions!
The shot in The Batman when we’re seeing Gordon at the ‘Meeting Place’ set, and Battinson just morphs from the silhouette of the pillar and we realize he’s been in the shot this whole time, it’s just 11/10. The Batman is The One. I loved your video, this has been such a fun watch, I’m definitely saving this vid to my “Emergency Serotonin” playlist because I fuckin love Batman and I love your take. The Sauce😂. ❤
An underrated detail I love about the opening scene of The Batman is with the guy in the scary looking ghost mask. When he’s robbing the convenience store, the light shows how he’s the scariest guy in the room. But when he runs out and looks up to see the bat signal, most of the light around his mask disappears as he becomes completely overcome by fear. That shot where he’s just standing totally frozen and scared conveys fear better than anything I’ve ever seen in a comic book movie.
Batman being the fucking boogeyman for criminals is so damn good
I absolutely love that part, but I had no idea that was a ghost mask XD I thought it was an onion
@@TreeckoJedi9it’s the logo for “drops”. The fictional drug for Gotham City.
REAL! You cant even see his face and yet YOU DON'T NEED TO. The body language on the actor and the fantastic lighting does it all, just seeing him stand there as Pattinson, with biting MALICE in his voice hisses the word "fear," you can almost feel the blood draining from his face.
And we don’t even get to actually see his face it’s all body language
Something I really enjoyed about Battinson is that Bruce Wayne felt like the disguise whenever he wasn't in his Batman suit. Like Batman was the true identity and Bruce Wayne was just a way Batman got around in the public without drawing attention.
But it’s clear that he hates this disguise, he was only Bruce in public for two times throughout the entire film, the mayors funeral he was forced to show up, and going to see Falcone he was completely lost and didn’t even care about anything.
The young Bruce is just filled with so much anger that he identifies as vengeance, he hates being Bruce he just wants to be the bat, but by the end of the movie he grows out of it so I’m sure the next film we will see a more confident Bruce actually taking care of Wayne enterprise
Battinson felt like he didn't even know how to be Bruce Wayne, in an intentional way, like he hadn't developed the rich playboy persona yet and was only 100% Batman and vengeance. The perfect year 2 Batman performance.
i personally dislike the whole "bruce wayne is the mask" interpretation
@@goob7388 Really? That's like the most compelling thing about Batman to me.
I find it funny that the most complimented things about Batfleck are the ones Zack had little to no influence on
1:16:12 I completely agree. I used to not care too much about Batman using guns, until I saw the scene in Batman Beyond where Bruce is so disgusted with himself that he even pointed a gun at someone that he gives up being Batman.
As fun as it is to see Marcus tear into a bad movie, it’s equally entertaining to see him gush over one he loves.
Harvey's introductory scene in TDK is so over the top, I burst out laughing every time. The guy disarms a mobster, punches him in the face, disassembles the gun, and delivers two super rad lawyer lines to a round of applause from the gallery. I half expect him to turn around, grab Rachel by the waist, and open-mouth kiss her like Ash at the end of Army of Darkness.
Nolan is not about subtlety.
Shit still fucking rules tho. I know it’s goofy as hell but when the whole scene is literally just so earnest with the “This is GoodGuy McLawyerMan. Check out how sick he is” that it just works. I love it.
I figured it was an in-world scripted scenario orchestrated by him to boost himself politically and whatever, but noo..
Now that I'm thinking about it, I could see that scene coming straight out of one of the Raimi Spider-Man movies.
The line that still absolutely murders me with cringe is suggesting the mobster next time he should buy American when talking about the gun. The kind of line you'd hear from a fictional lawyer whose tie is the American flag, and from what I've heard we don't even make good handguns. Also wow that was just too damn convenient for him, the gun fucking up like that.
Man, I love Ekhart's performance but I miss him having to cover up his rage. Having that dark side makes him even closer to a Batman parallel.
13:02 Small detail, but I really love this quick edit that introduces The Dark Knight. The beautiful shots, the cuts matching to the intense music, I just like when Marcus gets to be clever and flashy with his editing.
he did the same in the end for the batman
This is the only review of The Batman that makes me feel like the reviewer and I watched the same movie
I love when Marcus tears into a bad movie but I really love when he explains in detail why a movie is epic
I love in The Batman's opening when those dissonant string runs kick in after Bruce says "It's a warning... to them" like a horror movie sting.
I love how the internet unanimously agrees that Columbo would 100% catch Light within 45 minutes
I would highly recommend you check out Gianni Matragrano's _Columbo in... "Death Note"_ video. It's a short so it's less than a minute, and it genuinely understands both _Death Note_ and _Columbo_ in a way that's hilarious and insightful (it's written by someone else, but they're linked in the UA-cam description).
@@nathancarter8239 I've seen it
Personally I think the Internet is unanimously dumb if they unironically think that. imo its just one of those "wouldn't it be funny if the lighthearted comedy guy caught to super serious edgy boi" thing's.
@@Firestorm422 But Columbo isn't a 'lighthearted comedy guy'. It's a legitimate detective series where Columbo puts in the work and solves ludicrous crimes; yes, he's a funny and quirky character, but that's kinda the point and helps because the killer doesn't take Columbo seriously.
@@MrStath1986 You're right. But that's not the point. The point is that the internet (and in large part mostly Tumblr and Twitter so go fucking figure) THINKS it is.
I enjoyed the concept of Batfleck resorting to guns/killing in Darksied's apocalypse, but I feel like it was cheapened by him already having been okay with killing people before the world even ended.
Especially when contextualized with the fact that Snyder directed it. Batman resorting to guns? That can be interesting if it is truly an absolute, end-of-the-world last resort. But knowing that Snyder doesn't like comic-accurate heroes just makes it feel like he really wanted an excuse to give Batman a gun
Batman breaking his no kill rule in an actual apocalypse out of sheer 😮desperation could’ve been very interesting.
But, Batfleck already callously and needlessly murdered dozens of people before Darkseid, so it’s nullified.
Honestly not even kidding I genuinely think this 2 part series are some of the best videos you've ever made
I’ll never forget the day when my family was on vacation in Washington DC. We were at the Smithsonian and saw a big banner for The Dark Knight playing in the museum’s IMAX theater. We begged our parents to let us go, but my mom was adamantly against it because she thought the Joker was too creepy. Mind you, I was the youngest kid there of four, and I was 13. So we missed out on our chance. A few months later, my brother came home with the DVD and we watched it. My mom walked in halfway through and was so invested in whatever the scene was that she made us start over from the beginning. By the end, she said “that was a really good movie.” I threw my hands up and said “and we could have seen it in IMAX.” Biggest L my parents ever gifted me.
Lolol sucks you didn’t get to see it in IMAX, but you gotta admit it feels so good when you’re right and your parents are wrong
Yea man I was 8 when The Dark Knight came out so I unfortunately didn't get to see it in theaters. In fact, the only Batman movies I've seen in theaters are The Dark Knight Rises and The Batman. Definitely understand not letting an 8 year old see it but I so wish I did
@@HypocritesExposdin hindsight, yeah, but in the moment I was soooo pissed 😂
I saw it in theaters with my cousin when I was 9 and my cousin was 8 and he was terrified
The Riddler talking to his followers during his livestream was the funniest thing in The Batman
1:07:27 FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT 👏👏👏 Best Live Action Batman without a DOUBT
I remember talking to my friends about how important it is that The Batman is bookended with opposite interactions with a person Batman has saved. It feels so cool to hear someone else talk about it!
So glad Cosmonaut included that Batman Beyond scene at 28:23. It's such a brief but effective scene, and a believable reason why Batman would finally hang up the cowl.
Yeah, Batman giving up the cowl should be such a dramatic moment for him. Batman Beyond's explanation is perfect. It wasn't just that he physically couldn't do it anymore, he was put into such a bad situation purely because his body could no longer take it that he had to resort to the *one* thing he's hated most to save himself. That's how you end Batman's career. He doesn't stop cuz he's just over it, he gives up because him continuing is more of a detriment to everyone else than it is a help.
BRO IM SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT JOKERS PHILOSOPHICAL MONOLOGUES ON ANARCHY ARE JUST BS. IVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS FOR YEARS LMAO HE ISNT CHAOTIC HES PLANNED EVERYTHING THE ONLY THING HE DOESNT LIE ABOUT IS THAT HES DOING IT FOR FUN. A stand up comedian is a comparison I also use for him because the way Stand ups go on stage and make their entire act just feel like a one way convo where the jokes just flow but in reality the comic has been slaving and meticulously working these jokes for years.
One thing that I’ve always loved about Marcus’ videos is how they are edited, especially the little clips and references he puts in are alway such a delight to see and they brighten the videos up so much! He’s so incredibly funny and the random video clips just help elevate that a lot!
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I think the BEST part about The Batman despite it not really having a true Bruce Wayne(YET) is that they really understood the assignment with showing us that Batman is his real identity. It’s gonna be really interesting to see how he decides to build the facade and what that would even look like in this world
This is a common misconception about Batman/Bruce and it’s one Marcus doesn’t agree with either (to whatever degree you care). Saying that Bruce is the true mask is cringe lol and goes against everything the character stands for.
@@Fash0dai’d say that it’s less of a mask situation and more of a two sides of the same coin thing
@@Fash0da The Bruce Wayne the public sees is the mask. The people close to him (batfamily for example) that get to see the "real" him are treated the same whether or not he has on the cowl. Sure, in the field he will be more professional, but that's because he's "on the job." When it's less urgent, even if he's working in his base or something, he acts largely the same to those around him he is close to.
This, I think, is where people get the idea that Batman is his real identity. It's not, the real him is somewhere in between (and why those who are close to him are treated the same regardless of him wearing the cowl), but it is closer to his Batman persona (aka what he shows to criminals and to a lesser extent people like the police outside Gordon) than his Bruce Wayne persona.
@@Fash0daI think having Bruce be the real mask in the early part of his career when he's still obsessive and learning is cool as fuck, and slowly learning how to be Bruce and making Batman the mask as time goes on is a really solid and weighty arc
The film lays the seeds for where his Bruce Wayne will go in the future. It's all intentional. The Mayor-elect says "your family has a history of philanthropy but you aren't doing anything" Bruce in this film is obsessed with being Batman. There's no separation. His hair is long and unkempt, he's barely sleeping, his eyes are bloodshot. He doesn't even care about his own company/family legacy. Even when he goes to the funeral, he's in detective mode. He's Batman 100% of the time. In the sequel he'll probably start to take an active role in providing funds to improve the city, as well as establish more of a public persona that's separate from who he really is. It seems like a lot of people can't piece that together...
What I loved most about the costume in The Batman was that it made him look so strange. He looks so weird when he's in the apartment with the cops. It's like he's a cosplayer that wandered onto the scene of a crime and it helps sell the idea of the cops not liking him. If you didn't know who the Batman was, you would think he was a psychopath.
Cool detail in Pattinson's Batman movie is that at the beginning, there are two scenes of someone looking through the binoculars, but they're slightly different. The second one is Batman, but in the first one we never see their face - we just hear the sound of Riddler's spooky breathing. That paralell is a foreshadowing of the movie's ending, where one of the shooters tells Batman and the cops he is "Vengeance", connecting to Batman's first line in the movie.
Interesting fact about The Batman: Paul Dano was cast as the Riddler because of his performance as Brian Wilson in the fantastic biopic Love and Mercy, which makes sense given both the Riddler and Brian Wilson are essentially two halves of the same coin. The moral of the story is that The Beach Boys make everything better, inadvertently or not
I'm so glad you brought up Joker's "agent of chaos" speech being a blatant lie, because I get so confused whenever I hear people say "man, he's so right" and I'm just like "but... he's not, though... am I missing something? Am I the idiot?"
Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy.
That speech is tied for me alongside Agent Smith's "Humans are a virus" dialogue to Morpheus in The Matrix for movie speeches from a villain that people will be like "Damn that guy is totally right" even though the whole point in the movie is he's not.
"Do I look like a guy with a plan?" Yes, sir, you do. Literally everything you've done has been planned. The first scene of the movie is showing us your perfectly executed heist plan that leads into all your other plans, including the conclusion of the film that is an extremely elaborate plan trying to prove a point to Batman.
Yeah back in the day when I was still finding it absolute cringe when friends and acquaintances alike who were like obsessed with this movie, constantly repeating Joker quotes like these all the damn time and I was always just like ..... but all he ever does in this movie is make plans and then executing them. He plans an elaborate heist that he alone ends up walking away with all the money, he fakes his death just to be planted in the house of that one guy who put a bounty on him just to monologue and then kill him, he blows a fucking hospital in broad day light all while turning Harvey to the dark side and keeping the cops and Batman occupied with forcing the public to kill that one who was gonna expose Batman's identity, he intercepts a police convoy - purposely gets caught and also planned a getaway with a bomb planted in the stomach of guy of a guy who works for him and who also got arrested- all while he kidnapped Harvey and Rachel and had them set-up with explosives. Joker should seriously consider being a DM sometime, I think he'd be fantastic at it.
I don't know, I think that was the time/scene, or one of two scenes, where he was pretty much sincerely telling the truth, it seems pretty consistent/accurate with his actions and philosophy overall and yes at least 90%+ plus of viewers do take it literally/sincerely.
The killing joke meltdown is something I relate to on a spiritual level.
33:20 fun fact, that's Calgary. No joke, thats where they filmed that, they even filmed at my university one day
My favorite thing about the Battison suit is the lack of a neck covering. It is clear how much easier of a time he was moving his head around compared to Keaton and even Affleck and Bale.
Honestly the collar was pretty neat
I swear, the sequence from The Batman where the halogen light flickers to life and then illuminates the rest of the machinery for the Bat-signal is such an awesome piece of filmmaking. The sound design, the colors, and then pulling out to see the effect it has, it's all so awesome.
It really feels like a detail from a fantastic comic book
The Dark Knight's use of the wrist blades is THE definitive example of Chekhove's Gun.
I think the definitive example of Checkov's gun would be Checkov's gun
@@jonesjavontaeChekhov's Gun was an example used by Chekhov several times in his letters to discuss efficient use of narrative space and avoid unnecessary story elements that don't contribute to a story. The example being, if you have a loaded gun in the first act, it must go off in the second or third act. Over time this has evolved in culture to also refer to an element set up early in a story that pays off later. Chekhov's Gun is more of a thought experiment to demonstrate a concept than a definitive example; he did use such a set-up in one of his plays, Uncle Vanya, but have 99% of people ever even heard of it? Hardly definitive. I'd also guess that a majority of people who use the phrase Chekhov's Gun don't know who Anton Chekhov is in the first place, in the same way that people refer to Murphy's Law or Godwin's Law.
I also don't think Batman's wrist blades are the definitive example either, though, but at the very least they are a relatively iconic example of the concept used in an actual story that people have heard of, lol.
@@jonesjavontae astonishing observation. Incredible. Wow.
I love when Heath failed in the boat plan and he was genuinely devestated as Batman proved him wrong
One more thing I love about RobBat's Batman is how you see him come to terms with the fact that being a billionaire recluse has made him miss important details too.
The fact that he didn't know what a tucker is, (because he's a lil rich boy and why would he?), means that he completely missed the Riddler's last clue with the map of Gotham under the carpet. Like he had to be told by a police officer who happened to be there, and he was pretty dismissive of police officers other than Gordon in the movie too. Like, just 👌👌👌👌
My favourite Batman ❤❤
it kinda feels crazy that my favorite batman films are the batman and the lego batman movie. they’re both perfect batman stories, just in wildly different ways lmao
The dark knight returns is my favorite
I’m mad he didn’t review it
The batman is literal garbage
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@@emperormouse5487Objectively wrong.
The segment on The Batman almost had me emotional cause you were able to incredibly articulate why I love that movie so much. Thank you 🙏🏼 I feel seen
Holy shit same. I am so excited for the future of that series, especially since I think that will lead to us finally getting a live action Robin that is as good and accurate as Batinson’s Batman.
Dude same
Wow, Marcus' idea for TDKR ending in 35:55 is actually indeed much better. That would be more impactful
The Batmobile reveal in The Batman had me giggling so hard. It's really like seeing the killer in a slasher movie for the first time. Such a badass moment.
It felt like it shook the room in imax.
I think the problem with Nolan is that he is more interested in storytelling than in telling stories. He is a film geek who loves to experiment with techniques to create original scenes and many of them are great, but he feels less interested in using those scenes to say something. Watching a Nolan movie rarely makes me feel anything beyond: "This is cool."
Nolan casts very broad strokes in his storytelling for sure. He’s a film geek that latched onto the technical aspect of filmmaking whereas someone like Tarantino is much more wrapped up in character portrayals and dialogue. It shows in their films. It’s pretty rare for a director to just have the full package of skill, but lacking skill in one thing and excelling in something else is often what gives directors their unique style and vision.
Yeah his best films are almost always the ones where he has someone else writing with him or it’s an adaptation of a book/event where theres an inherent message (Oppenheimer being the best example.) Every filmmaker has their flaws but its fascinating that Nolan’s are almost completely overshadowed by his own sheer brilliance when it comes to action, tension, cinematography, etc.
@@mario98730That's why I was looking forward to Oppenheimer, I felt like it might temper some of Nolan's usual tendencies.
I think he generally does try to say something and the structure and cool ideas are centered around an abstract idea, too. But I do think his character work is weaker than his ability to come up with neat little twists.
This dude must have never watched memento or interstellar or dunkirk
I worked at hot topic when the newest film came out. A dude probably in his 40s came up with a shirt from the movie. I asked him how he liked it and he said "sparkle boy did a good job". Burned into my mind forever. I love you Robert Pattinson
37:15 that’s not what happened. He still wanted to kill Joe Chill after Rachel said that. It wasn’t until seeing him get gunned down when he would realize on his own that killing him wouldn’t have accomplished anything.
Bruce was literally approaching him moments away from pulling the gun out. Seeing him get killed is what changed his mind not Rachel.
It's sad that Pattinson's Batman doesn't get enough recognition because of his past in the Twilight movies and because he's the "newbie" Batman, but he's already the best Batman on my eyes and definitely has the potential to reach a legendary status
I kind of like that Robert Pattinson is known as "the Twilight guy"
Because that way, it's literally a jumpscare when you realize that the man is actually a magnificent actor.
I will say that Pattinson is easily the best live action Batman HOWEVER Kevin Conroy will forever be the Bat in my eyes
It's really a shame because he'll never make it because of TDK fanboys who watched the movie when they were 12 and superhero movies still sucked then, and because their ego won't let them give Pattinson a chance. Damn shame on both counts
I feel like mostly everyone loves him now. It's a tale as old as time, people hated him when he was cast, then the movie came out and he smashed it outta the park.
@@Luke101 I still see a lot of hate for him, and I know plenty of people who refuse to even see the movie because of him to this day.
I just want to give props to Markus's editing in these. The little musical intros to every batman sent chills down my spine. I really believe this is your best video you've made.
Take all the break time you need man, you've earned it.
42:46 I like when Batman said “Idomanypeoplegetthebederofu”. Truly one of the lines of all time.
Batman: "Idubandotmybofoeedebeddobadoo"
Bane: "GHEJHEWEBBUBBOOBOBOANOBBOB"
Truly genius cinema
1:07:10 This is genuinely one of my favourite scenes in a Batman film. It's so simple and so good.
Batman has become such a symbol of hope for the downtrodden of Gotham that this woman would literally prefer to stay with him then be airlifted out of a flooded disaster zone by medical professionals.
It's SO damn good. It nails Batman as a hero perfectly. Goddamn.
Joker's Favor is one of my favorite episodes. That car chase after the guy cussed out the Joker was hilarious to me as a kid, but as an adult who understands just how dangerous the Joker can be, it's absolutely terrifying.
The thing I love most about the DCAU joker, is that he is both hilarious and terrifying. Perfect balance for the character.
58:45
That little montage/intro to The Batman gave me goosebumps.
You know the song name by chance? It's so good
@@KodiiViibes 8d Audio (Kens)
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@@antonrosengren3291its archetype
One thing about The Dark Knight Rises, I will be a Tom Hardy Bane truther forever. I absolutely loved Hardy’s super quotable, over the top, campy but also intimidating performance. When this movie came out I felt like I could quote every single Bane line, there are some seriously iconic lines in there. Also, I don’t think there’s ever been a more dripped out villain than fur coat Bane.
Tom Hardy is more intimidating without the mask and voice
Yes, this! Bane doesn't get nearly enough love. He's one of my favorite villain performances ever, not far from Ledger's Joker. His voice his demenor, his whole body language. It's such an all out performance.
Yeah. Super disappointed he didn’t give Hardy any credit for his Bane when he had a clear impact on pop culture at the time simply because he was so awesome.
TOM HARDY BANE TRUTHERS UNITE
Please tell me I'm not the only one who couldn't fucking understand what bane was saying half the time. I mean, I watched the movie on a plane so that could be a part of it.
I remember watching The Batman in theatres, and in the scene when Batman saves the criminal from falling off the building after catwoman pushes them off, I could hear an audience member whisper to their friend “why did Batman do that” and their friend responded “Batman doesn’t like killing people”. That guy understood the character of Batman more than every movie he’s been in before 2022.
I blame this whole "Batman not killing villains is lame" all on Zack Snyder
The Batman 2022 was absolutely insane to see in theaters. I agree with basically everything you said regarding the first scene and how Pattinson is portrayed. Every time he was on screen I was just thinking "Wow. THIS is Batman"
Genuinely so good.
I actually like the Begins portion where Bruce considers killing Chill. He's 19-21 at the time, just an angry misplaced kid, and Rachel treats him like the stupid kid he is being. She tells him to look past his own pain, because he's had a mansion and a butler to sulk with for a decade, and the kids on the mob-run streets just have to accept their troubles and live around them any way that they can with very little hope, comfort or change involved. This opens his eyes to the point of a confrontation with Falcone where he looks around and sees just how much of the city and therefore the average Gotham city resident is under the boots of these people. He also realizes that not only did Joe Chill's death not give him any peace, but also that it likely facilitated further suffering in the grand scheme of things. Basically forces him to grow up and causes him to go on a journey of self-discovery for another decade where he realizes his life's mission and returns to gotham reborn in both a legal and metaphorical sense, the Bruce wayne we know and love. The conversation they have about vengeance vs justice is an important one for Bruce's story as it cuts right to the fundamental difference between him and Ras and why he rejects that cause. The only thing I don't like is that Holmes isn't the strongest actress and it would have been nice if Gyllenhaal would have gotten the role sooner. But otherwise I agree with nearly everything else in the video, great stuff!
Yeah, I like the idea that Batman was THIS CLOSE to becoming a murderer and was pulled back by happenstance and a philosophical eye opener. Batman was forged he wasn't born.
@@hosvet_animation 100% agree!
I'd argue showing that Bruce is just as capable of "thinking" to use a gun on Chill makes the fact that he never does again a lot stronger. Begins does overdo having Bruce getting lectured by someone about his morals a lot but showing how much he disappointed himself and Racheal for having those dark thoughts made him very human.
I feel like it’s just that it’s Katie Holmes telling him to not kill that makes it not work for me. I think if it was Maggie, she would’ve delivered the lines better and it would’ve felt more serious. With Katie idk it came across as a little cheesy or a little over the top given the subject matter. It’s like a parent punishing their teenage kid. Doesn’t work imo.
@@IndecisiveJR That's fair.
Dear Marcus, as someone who has suffered from the stupidity of Twitter, I'm happy to see you survive the constant pressure and demands of your weird fans and decide to not let the video be delayed another week. I'm very grateful for the more than 2 hours of content of the bats. I will enjoy it until the end. Also, DON'T DARE TO QUIT MAN. EVERY YOUTBER IS LEAVING US IN JANUARY.
My take on Alfred's sudden flip in the 3rd Nolan movie is: it isn't sudden at all. He was ride or die Alfred in the first movie, a little less so in the second, and by the third it had been eight years. Bruce was walking around depressed, with a cane, mostly scar tissue and brittle bones.
Of course he wanted his son to settle down, be happy, and maybe even have kids. Nothing strange there
I think it’s safe to say Matt Reves is the best thing to ever happen to Batman in terms of his on screen presence
He gave me hope that batman would be done right going forward😅
People didnt think The Batman was funny... Batman leaves Penguin after interrogating him to waddle away, thats the funniest sh!t
“Thumb drive” made the whole audience gasp-laugh when I saw it in IMAX
@@zachflag6506that entire scene still cracks me up. Pattinsons look when he finds it, and then Gordon's shocked expression was amazing.
Or the scene where he crash lands with the flying squirrel suit
The Batman deserves top marks if solely for the fact that the black eye make-up under the mask is *diegetic* in that movie. Robert Batmanson canonly looks like he came home from an mcr concert after a night of crime fighting and I love it.
"Deliciously detestable" has become one of my most said things when it comes to movies. Whenever i see a good villain, this is the first thing that comes to mind.
What I would give to experience The Batman, especially the batmobile sequence, in theaters for the first time. No rowdiness or cheering from the audience. Everyone went DEAD SILENT and had their jaws on the floor. Nothing will ever leave me as speechless and exhilarated as that reveal and chase sequence did.
Then you got a sad mf life. Film is mid as hell.
I am so glad I was not the only person who felt Robert’s Batman was like watching a comic book. The rain with narration reminded me of sin city and max Payne. Such a vibe.
The collar in the battinson suit actually solves one of my main issues with the movie suits. Thick neck means no head movement but also it’s out of balance with his legs, if you ever see the promo photos of bale standing in the begins suit he looks like he has short legs (not helped by the long cape trailing on the floor) this doubly applies to afflecks suit.
And the dark knight has good movement but it messed with the silhouette, and gives him a bit of a bobble head. So I think The Batman suit manages to solve a lot of problems. (Also helped by a thin cowl, solves the big head little legs problem)
I was watching a video on the design of the Batfleck costume and how the designers had to go through all these complicated hoops to design a cowl that allows for the head to turn, and then The Batman comes along and is just like "here, has a longer collar, boom, done" and it ironically works better because it feels like something an amateur (albeit a wealthy amateur) would make, rather than something a costume designer would engineer.
One wee thing I loved about The Batman is the look of Bruce with the smudged eye makeup. All the onscreen Batmen wore eye makeup, but they never showed it without the mask. It both looked cool and was appropriate.