Firearms Expert Reacts to Helldivers 2's Guns PART 2

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  • Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
  • Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down more of the weaponry of Helldivers 2, including the SG-225 Breaker, the Railgun Stratagem (in safe and unsafe mode), and even digs a real-world counterpart to the Autocannon from the Royal Armouries collection.
    00:00 - Opening
    00:40 - P-4 Senator Pistol
    02:17 - Stalwart Stratagem
    03:35 - Adjustable Rates of Fire
    04:37 - Autocannon Stratagem
    08:19 - Autocannon Sentry Stratagem
    09:00 - SG-225 Breaker Shotgun
    09:48 - SG-225IE Breaker Incendiary Shotgun
    10:50 - LAS-5 Scythe Energy-Based Weapon
    11:54 - Railcannon Stratagem
    13:02 - Break-Action Shotgun
    14:13 - JAR-5 Dominator Explosive Weapon
    15:49 - P-2 Peacemaker
    16:38 - Arc Thrower Stratagem
    17:26 - Mortar Sentry Stratagem
    18:31 - ICBM Missile
    In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down more of the guns of Helldivers 2 and compares them to their potential real-life counterparts.
    Firearms Expert Reacts playlist - • Firearms Expert Reacts...
    If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
    If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    And if you would like to become a member of the Royal Armouries, you can get a membership here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    You can either purchase Jonathan's book here. - www.headstamppublishing.com/b...
    Or at the Royal Armouries shop here. - shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
    You can subscribe to the Armax Journal that Jonathan Associate Edited here: www.armaxjournal.org/
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  • @johnjohn5187
    @johnjohn5187 3 місяці тому +5094

    “Is he a robot, or is that a robot arm?”
    “He’s a veteran.”
    Smiles in Democracy.

    • @thecrabmaestro564
      @thecrabmaestro564 3 місяці тому +79

      *robit

    • @johnjohn5187
      @johnjohn5187 3 місяці тому +55

      @@thecrabmaestro564oi, eyeuh got somethin' ya won ta say, moite?

    • @droidBasher
      @droidBasher 3 місяці тому +94

      Of course he's not a cyborg. He's too democratic to be a cyborg.

    • @dwrdwlsn5
      @dwrdwlsn5 3 місяці тому +28

      @@droidBasherYeah, lets not let the Democracy Officer hear any of that. Won't end well.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +67

      Helldiving made me the man I am today!

  • @weresquirrel
    @weresquirrel 3 місяці тому +3169

    A funny thing in regards to the front loading mortar; One of the ship upgrades is "Zero-G Breech loading: Replaces the current method of loading cannons - manual shell insertion down the front of the barrel - with rear loading, which is much faster."

    • @Drakith90
      @Drakith90 3 місяці тому +713

      When I read that upgrade I laughed for hours. Cause with how expendable soldiers are in the setting I imagined Space Powder Monkeys running along the hull of the ship every time I called in an orbital barrage..

    • @nicolaspeigne1429
      @nicolaspeigne1429 3 місяці тому +104

      It's for the orbital cannons though

    • @inquisitorbenediktanders3142
      @inquisitorbenediktanders3142 3 місяці тому +327

      ​@@Drakith90 And people joked that to reload they had someone in a spacesuit on the outside loading them like old cannons.

    • @LeHarmacist
      @LeHarmacist 3 місяці тому +291

      @@Drakith90apparently, the armor or suit that the helldivers are wearing have the same materials as with your super destroyer. I don’t know the validity of this claim for it is secondhand information.
      Fun fact though, one of the ship upgrades(I reckon it’s the first engineering bay upgrade) has you give stimulants like ampethamines to your crew to reduce certain stratagem cooldowns iirc.

    • @Winasaurus
      @Winasaurus 3 місяці тому +203

      @@Drakith90 Similar to the Hangar upgrade that allows them to reload "mid-spaceflight". How exactly support crew are affixing 500kg bombs to Eagles in spaceflight is a worrying thought.

  • @DaveQZ85
    @DaveQZ85 3 місяці тому +1463

    For the amount of environmentally interactive details they put into the game, that the capes don't billow violently as the nuke shockwave passes seems like a glaring miss.

    • @Insan1tyW0lf
      @Insan1tyW0lf 3 місяці тому +224

      Def needs to get patched in.

    • @kowalskee360
      @kowalskee360 3 місяці тому +119

      That's exactly what I was about to comment. The effect is incredible, but feels so fake when it hits the cape and nothing. Needs patching for sure

    • @IoFoxdale
      @IoFoxdale 3 місяці тому +291

      That's because the capes of Super Earth's finest are unflappable. Mere nuclear winds can't shake our soldiers resolve.

    • @kowalskee360
      @kowalskee360 3 місяці тому +78

      @@IoFoxdale I forgot that. It all makes sense now

    • @pills-
      @pills- 3 місяці тому +86

      Don't worry. Capes only billow when they need to. Like when standing on the bridge of your super destroyer! FOR DEMOCRACY!

  • @DavidMarcus1525
    @DavidMarcus1525 3 місяці тому +2344

    "I'm doing my part"

  • @BusbyBiscuits
    @BusbyBiscuits 3 місяці тому +1301

    That giggle after Jonathan whips out that SR-9 thing is priceless.

    • @eTiMaGo
      @eTiMaGo 3 місяці тому +68

      sign of a man who truly loves what he's doing :D

    • @halolong5461
      @halolong5461 3 місяці тому +42

      It's that "I knew this will come in handy one day" type of giggle

    • @MrJJ86
      @MrJJ86 3 місяці тому +10

      I thank him for doing it. He has so many unique weapons at his museum.

  • @JunkyardBashSteve
    @JunkyardBashSteve 3 місяці тому +786

    casually pulling out a Pedersen rifle like it's nothing and then dropping that they have TWO

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +275

      We have three :D - all British trials Vickers-Pedersens.

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +65

      JF loves to flex the collection. And for good reason!

    • @antiluckermd1956
      @antiluckermd1956 3 місяці тому +23

      ​@@IrregularDave JFtkofaaatramitUKwhacotoiffth is the correct short term

    • @JunkyardBashSteve
      @JunkyardBashSteve 3 місяці тому +13

      @@jonathanferguson1211 oh then I guess you wouldn't miss just one right? My birthday is coming up soon so maybe...

  • @MangeViggo
    @MangeViggo 3 місяці тому +1341

    Finally, our Autocannon will be analyzed! :D Been looking forward to this! /A HD2 dev

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 3 місяці тому +121

      It's definitely satisfying to fire. Only gripe I have is that assisted reloads can be temperamental, gotten stuck in assisted reload state or just animations in weird ways that required a respawn to fix.
      Still, very satisfying weapon to use, both in handheld and turret forms.

    • @wisecrack3461
      @wisecrack3461 3 місяці тому +29

      Love your team! Keep up the good work :D

    • @LeonJohnson-yi3hg
      @LeonJohnson-yi3hg 3 місяці тому +2

      🫡

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +79

      It's very cool!

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +61

      Congrats on your success! I've loved my time with the game, these episodes have been a blast to make.

  • @SekritJay
    @SekritJay 3 місяці тому +899

    I genuinely thought John was being wistful about not having a nuclear missile ready to show

    • @knusern666
      @knusern666 3 місяці тому +68

      He has one, I'm sure of it

    • @bulldowozer5858
      @bulldowozer5858 3 місяці тому +90

      His emotional support mini-nuke

    • @NeoTechni
      @NeoTechni 3 місяці тому +67

      You just know he has a Davey Crockett hidden away for emergencies

    • @pnutz_2
      @pnutz_2 3 місяці тому +12

      polaris is at imperial war museum so can understand his pain

    • @BarneyDesmond
      @BarneyDesmond 3 місяці тому +3

      He *is* wistful.

  • @kolper6799
    @kolper6799 3 місяці тому +447

    "One of out two, (because we greedy) maxim machinegun prototypes...". Jonathan might be locomitive of Gamespot but in hearts he still is british museum worker.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +103

      We have two out of the three that survive.

    • @heinzaballoo3278
      @heinzaballoo3278 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@jonathanferguson1211 That is quite devious. But what happened to the third?

    • @manuelschurig2266
      @manuelschurig2266 2 місяці тому +1

      @@heinzaballoo3278probably in another museum

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 2 місяці тому

      The third is in the US Marine Corps Museum collection.@@heinzaballoo3278

  • @chthulu27
    @chthulu27 3 місяці тому +501

    To be fair: a lightning strike _could_ make bugs explode. The radical increase in heat coupled with a chitin exoskeleton (assuming it's chitin or a similar material) _could_ conceivably cause the same sort of intense pressure increase that makes trees explode during a lightning strike.

    • @nebulonian1385
      @nebulonian1385 3 місяці тому +113

      Also, they are used as an easy fuel source. I'm not familiar with the details, but they do seem to just have pretty volatile insides, which would definitely have spectacular interactions with lightning.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 3 місяці тому +35

      Also the magnetic forces generated by currents flowing over an exoskeleton will tend to compress the exoskeleton. The same effect is used as the basis of z-pinch nuclear fusion experiments.

    • @chthulu27
      @chthulu27 3 місяці тому +4

      @derekp2674 , fusion? I'm curious as I've not heard a lot about it. Last I heard we finally had the first successful positive-yield reaction and then the excitement seemed to die off a bit.

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 3 місяці тому +22

      Two possible outcomes. Either it instantly boils a large quantity of the water contained within the bug leading to an explosion or the shell acts like a faraday cage and directs the energy around the outside to ground

    • @jonathanguitard984
      @jonathanguitard984 3 місяці тому +8

      Simple headcanon for lore purposes. The goop inside these liberty hating bugs is a poor conductor of the fuel of democracy. It boils into high pressure steam almost instantly when a current passes through it.

  • @Apollo_1641
    @Apollo_1641 3 місяці тому +920

    An autoloading mortar that uses an arm to "drop" shells down the tube isn't as outlandish as you'd think.
    The swedish "Mjølner" and South Korean Wia 120mm both use a system like this.

    • @abysswatcher9172
      @abysswatcher9172 3 місяці тому +28

      Really? I wonder what the practical reason for that is.

    • @SnazBrigade
      @SnazBrigade 3 місяці тому +91

      well mjolner's like SEMI autoloading lol, there are still swedes pushing the rounds up rails, than they mechanically kinda tip into the magazine

    • @welshdragon3187
      @welshdragon3187 3 місяці тому +16

      That’s exactly what I was going to comment good on you for betting me to it 👍

    • @chugachuga9242
      @chugachuga9242 3 місяці тому +12

      @@abysswatcher9172I’m pretty sure it uses normal mortar rounds which might mean they have to be loaded from the top and not from a belt like with what Johnathon suggested on how you would do an automatic mortar.

    • @VodkamanBR
      @VodkamanBR 3 місяці тому

      Those mortar shells each weights about 15kg, nearly 35 pounds, you don't want a tired soldier to accidentally drop one and arm it.@@abysswatcher9172

  • @HerraHidalgo
    @HerraHidalgo 3 місяці тому +160

    If you want to see a nuclear weapon in a museum, the Swedish War museum in Stockholm has one. Right next to stone-age axeheads.
    A very powerful exhibit.

    • @sebastiandavidsson6997
      @sebastiandavidsson6997 3 місяці тому +8

      There is no Swedish war museum. Did you mean the Army museum?

    • @HerraHidalgo
      @HerraHidalgo 3 місяці тому +20

      @@sebastiandavidsson6997 yes.

    • @alexmin4752
      @alexmin4752 2 місяці тому +3

      Is it operational? Asking for a friend.

    • @HerraHidalgo
      @HerraHidalgo 2 місяці тому +1

      @@alexmin4752 ...maybe?

  • @IrregularDave
    @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +561

    It has been an honour and privilege to bring you these episodes, fellow Helldivers!
    Many bugs and bots met their end to record the gmeplay, and many more will fall!

    • @SmolGawblin
      @SmolGawblin 3 місяці тому +16

      we want more helldivers... Please?

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +24

      ​@@SmolGawblinmaybe when there are more weapons added we shall revisit!

    • @weirdeurasianboy8091
      @weirdeurasianboy8091 3 місяці тому

      A

    • @The7guys
      @The7guys 3 місяці тому +3

      Please show us your 40k mini collection

    • @IrregularDave
      @IrregularDave 3 місяці тому +7

      @@The7guys a lot of them are in storage at the moment, but I post the new ones I paint on my Twitter and Instagram 🫡

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite 3 місяці тому +187

    "It's a rule in our group that you have to salute as the missile detonates."
    You sir, are a true patriot and I commend your dedication to democracy.

    • @vahyg5508
      @vahyg5508 3 місяці тому +3

      🫡

    • @johnpmchappell
      @johnpmchappell 2 місяці тому +2

      Been a rule in our group, since day one, too. Along with standing and saluting the flag on that mission.

    • @karhu7581
      @karhu7581 Місяць тому

      I dish out hugs instead. Nothing like embracing while a nuke goes off

    • @drunk_famasmf5135
      @drunk_famasmf5135 Місяць тому

      Shame there is no mod (yet) to play the chorus or pre-chorus of "When Heavens divide" (or "Nuclear") when nuke detonates
      Democracy may be eternal, but heaven is not helldivers' kind of place anyway

  • @jameslars7391
    @jameslars7391 3 місяці тому +136

    one thing that I have noticed is that if you use an action mid reload that prevents you from using the charging handle the gun won't actually be considered reloaded until you give it a second to do that animation.

    • @p0wer1337
      @p0wer1337 3 місяці тому +29

      Only if you run completely out of ammo from the mag. If you do a tactical reload with 1 in the chamber, it skips that animation.
      The same can be seen on the pump shotties. With none in the mag tube, you do an emergency reload + rack then reload the rest conventionally. If theres still 1 in the chamber you just reload conventionally

    • @guts-141
      @guts-141 3 місяці тому +15

      Happened to me so many times because I kept diving around evading dangers
      Trying to shoot and realizing the bolt isn't pulled back yet was kinda cool and clumsy like it jammed for a second

    • @Dreznin
      @Dreznin 3 місяці тому +7

      @@p0wer1337 Not only is that faster, but it's a cool detail - you skip pulling the charging handle is because you didn't clear the barrel and still have a round chambered. It's such a little detail that so many games ignore, but makes Helldivers even more immersive.

    • @Thelothuo
      @Thelothuo 3 місяці тому +9

      It's noticeable in small arms, but very obvious in platforms with longer multi-step reloads like the Recoilless Rifle, whose reload can be interrupted at three points between opening the breech, ejecting a casing, loading a casing, and closing the breech.

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Dreznin its a dstail that every COD and BF game has had for decades.

  • @sp1ky58
    @sp1ky58 3 місяці тому +237

    I find it really funny that Ferguson is basically just a video game gun reviewer at this point. He's done SO MANY

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +138

      I still do my day job :D

    • @blightspreadergames1110
      @blightspreadergames1110 3 місяці тому +16

      Almost singlehandedly keeping the Gamespot channel alive!

    • @56bturn
      @56bturn 3 місяці тому +2

      It's such a thing it got lampshaded in his video on Forgotten Weapons. Just check the thumbnail.

    • @Chasmodius
      @Chasmodius 2 місяці тому +6

      It's also _excellent_ PR / advertisement for the Royal Armouries Museum (in Leeds!). Which is, I believe, also a part of the job description of most curatorial staff at museums.

    • @jstar3382
      @jstar3382 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@jonathanferguson1211lmao glad to see you. You're easily the best part of this channel

  • @davidcsimon
    @davidcsimon 3 місяці тому +59

    Lightning tends to superheat and fluids inside a target, causing them to rapidly expand and effectively explode. A tree near my home was hit by lightning and the superheated sap sent splinters as big as my arm flying across our garden. I imagine bugs would react similarly.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 3 місяці тому +10

      The same principle is also used in electrothermal (ET) and electrothermal chemical (ETC) guns but we don't often see them in sci-fi games.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 Місяць тому

      The terminids in Helldiver lore are also farmed for their blood, under the codename of Element 710. Having such a volatile inside probably does not help matters.

  • @sirjazz5776
    @sirjazz5776 3 місяці тому +160

    Concerning the Sentinels, I came to the conclusion that it was not an AI per turret built in... but in fact, the command post from our Destroyers, as we sent the sentinels, who take control of the turrets deployed and blast all ennemies on the ship's radar sight. Which would explain as well why they don't make much difference between allies and foes, as they could only be dots on a screen.

    • @a1ter120
      @a1ter120 3 місяці тому +7

      Pretty sure that’s a simple problem solvable by using iff

    • @jameslars7391
      @jameslars7391 3 місяці тому +53

      @@a1ter120 but at the same time Helldivers are expendable and are used as such why put money and time to build an IFF system when you can just recruit more Helldivers.

    • @Dostoron
      @Dostoron 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@jameslars7391
      What does it cost to make four dots green?

    • @honignoname98
      @honignoname98 3 місяці тому +37

      @@Dostoron Everything

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 3 місяці тому +27

      They couldn't even afford to put simple remote or even timed arming electronics into the hellbombs. I'm almost positive that touch screen and related hardware costs more to install per unit than conventional remote/automatic firing hardware

  • @flakby3085
    @flakby3085 3 місяці тому +275

    About selectable fire rate. The new MG5 also has like 3, I think, selectable speeds.

    • @marcellosilva9286
      @marcellosilva9286 3 місяці тому +40

      Does it have fuller auto?

    • @Feldflasche
      @Feldflasche 3 місяці тому +19

      and all 3 of them are lower than the MG3s, which it replaces in the german army for no good reason

    • @Quickdrawingartist
      @Quickdrawingartist 3 місяці тому +18

      ​@@marcellosilva9286What about "fullest auto"?

    • @captainmilano5279
      @captainmilano5279 3 місяці тому +45

      ​@@Feldflasche it conserves ammo, it can fit modern scopes, it's shorter (better handling), it's more ergonomic for fire on the move or standing.
      Don't get me wrong, i love the MG3 aswell, but saying that the MG5 has no upsides is just blatantly wrong

    • @Speedy2619
      @Speedy2619 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@Feldflasche weight, ammo conservation thats the reasons formally.

  • @joaoie
    @joaoie 3 місяці тому +62

    I love how casually Jonathan mentions where we can check a museum's nuke

  • @Pocahonkers
    @Pocahonkers 3 місяці тому +49

    About the mortar, it might sound and look silly but this is actually how some more modern autloading mortars function.
    The swedish Granatkastarpansarbandvagn (which is probably the coolest name for a mortar carrier) has a system where a robotic arm contraption carries the grenade from a replenished magazine under armor outside to drop it into the muzzle of the mortar.
    It's really neat, the crazy kind of tank only sweden could fever dream up after inhaling too many Surströmming vapours.

    • @ShogunMongol
      @ShogunMongol 2 місяці тому +1

      South Korea has something similar as well, the KSM120 Skyfall, and there's a video of one of these systems being demonstrated detached from the vehicle it goes to that looks nearly identical to the Helldiver mortar. South Korea probably got to that idea from too many kimchi fumes.

  • @yoshiboy777
    @yoshiboy777 3 місяці тому +199

    The GPMG (L7A2) you can rotate the gas block to 'balance' the gun as it were, changing its rate of fire. Beautiful bit of kit

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire 3 місяці тому +3

      GPMG is short for general purpose machine gun, so I have no idea what gun you are talking about.

    • @Braiam
      @Braiam 3 місяці тому +15

      @@NugireEdited to say L7A2 or FN MAG

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 3 місяці тому +3

      I’ve heard us ‘yanks’ say the same with the M249 (FN Minimi) and the M240 (FN Mag).

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +21

      Yes, you can vary rate of fire with any adjustable gas block, but that's not the purpose of it. I was thinking of selectable fire rates independent of gas setting (or in the absence of an adjustable block).

    • @mikafor
      @mikafor 3 місяці тому +4

      @@jonathanferguson1211Only thing I can even think of that's anywhere near that would be the G11, but still not exactly in the ballpark. German space wizards, man.

  • @wimpie031
    @wimpie031 3 місяці тому +39

    7:05 loved that giggle. I knew it was going to be special right away 😂

  • @launchalot8745
    @launchalot8745 3 місяці тому +14

    As a Swedish company, Arrowhead seems to have taken quite a few design cues from Swedish weaponry of today. The EAT and the recoilless rifle are the most obvious examples, but there are several others aswell. The mortar sentry is basically just an automated, scaled-down version of the recently introduced mortar system in the Swedish Army.

    • @PurplePunchini
      @PurplePunchini 2 місяці тому +4

      Yes, the lead designer and more on the team was Swedish military and has used CGs themselves. There is a video where the creators play the game with a youtuber and talk about it. Just as Jonathan notices and mentions in this in the last video, the recoiless rifle is based on Carl Gustaf and the autocanon friend reload is based on the Bofors canons.

  • @DivingHawker
    @DivingHawker 3 місяці тому +86

    4:26 You can adjust the gas block to effectively change the rate of fire, even though it's usually meant to deal with dirtier conditions

    • @Nugire
      @Nugire 3 місяці тому +4

      The Negev has 3, normal and high for belts like you said and a low setting for using magazines.
      They learned from the M249 that mags need a lower gas pressure/slower cycling

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 3 місяці тому +8

      Yes, not quite what I was thinking of :)

    • @SL4PSH0CK
      @SL4PSH0CK 3 місяці тому +1

      Yea cool rules of engagement high RPM is the "surrounded" switch

    • @Mindpron
      @Mindpron 3 місяці тому +1

      Generally, adjustable gas toggles are meant to deal with muzzle attachments, such as suppressors, compensators, and other attachments that could change the barrel pressure.
      Running a suppressor would increase the barrel pressure, causing blowback. Which can seize the action as unburned powder is forced into the action. So you shrink the aperture to reduce the amount of gas that can pass through the gas tube.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 2 місяці тому +4

      That's a recent development. Adjustable gas blocks are traditionally to allow proper setup of a machine gun and then continued reliable function in adverse conditions and/or when fouled. The same is true for service rifles, most of which were either never designed for a suppressor or never used with one. @@Mindpron

  • @g80gzt
    @g80gzt 3 місяці тому +17

    11:21
    It does actually, cold planets reduce rate of fire (so your MG shoots slower RPM) but also reduces heat buildup.

  • @cinnamonshiva
    @cinnamonshiva 3 місяці тому +29

    This has been the most fun and well thought out bunch of fictional guns i've seen in a game in a really long time. Always a pleasure to see Jonathan's take on these!

  • @tetsatou2815
    @tetsatou2815 3 місяці тому +24

    The Dominator's gyrojet rounds are a dual stage. Uses the massive cartridge to give it a jump out the barrel, and then you see the jet fire up a short distance out the barrel.

    • @NXTangl
      @NXTangl 2 місяці тому +6

      In short: literally a bolter.

  • @JonathanMartinez-ei4up
    @JonathanMartinez-ei4up 3 місяці тому +23

    The new set of weapons that’s coming out for Helldivers II includes a Pump Action-Shotgun style Lightning weapon, so I’m looking forward to the episode of you guys reviewing that. I’m wondering if they’ll eventually give players the mini Atomic Grenades (or a variant of them) from Starship Troopers, since this series does pay a lot of homage to that series.I can’t imagine that they wont also eventually give us their take on a Pulse Rifle too, since its so iconic.

  • @TheFrogEnjoyer
    @TheFrogEnjoyer 3 місяці тому +40

    I hope this series never ends

  • @Mr.deacle
    @Mr.deacle 3 місяці тому +26

    Regarding variable fire-rate machine guns, the Israeli IWI Negev light machine gun technically has an adjustable fire rate. A lot of other guns do to but it's not exactly the intended use of an adjustable gas system, including this one.
    Position 1 on the Negev is for feeding from box magazines at 700 to 850 rpm. Position 2 will create the same fire rate when using a belt. Belts add drag to the system; I think using this setting on a magazine would make it shoot bit faster but would probably be unreliable. Position 3 is for belts under adverse conditions, gun all gunked up with powder residue and sand and debris. But on a clean gun, with the gas system opened all the way up to third position, you can reach up to 1000 rpm.

    • @jacobs6771
      @jacobs6771 2 місяці тому +1

      Almost every machine gun today has an adjustable gas system making them fire faster or slower. It’s weird that a supposed weapons historian of his magnitude doesn’t know that.

    • @Mr.deacle
      @Mr.deacle 2 місяці тому +3

      @@jacobs6771 He probably does know that but just hadn't considered it to be an intended feature of adjustable gas systems. When he talks about historical examples he references a deliberate design choice to give those weapons variable fire rates, and that's almost never the case in modern arms design. I only reference the Negev because I've heard stories of people using the gas system to change the fire rate, but that's not really how you're supposed to treat the gun.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn 3 місяці тому +10

    A few vets who worked with the M249 mentioned that you could adjust the gas regulator to change the rate of fire, but the function is often to over-gas the system for reliability when it starts to slow down from heavy use.

  • @Svoorhout85
    @Svoorhout85 3 місяці тому +23

    Saluting when the missile launches sounds great, but my group already has the rule that we give eachother a hug before boarding the Pelican no matter what.

  • @eyriewow4297
    @eyriewow4297 3 місяці тому +36

    The Pz Mg 87 on the Swiss Leopard 2 can switch between 500 and 1000 rpm.

  • @PitFriend1
    @PitFriend1 3 місяці тому +14

    The real advantage a revolver would still have in the future would be ease of handling large cartridges without more moving parts like a slide or bolt for a magazine fed handgun. It also has the all important looks cool factor.

  • @ThouReaper2.0
    @ThouReaper2.0 3 місяці тому +26

    I never knew what the B.A.R is classified as but it has 2 different full auto modes. Full auto and fuller auto

    • @robertharris6092
      @robertharris6092 3 місяці тому +5

      Its an automatic rifle. Browning designed it with the intent that you use it like a rifle thats automatic. Basicly the predecesor to the battle rifle. The US pushed it into a SAW (squad automatic weapon) role that it wasnt remotly ideal for.

    • @oldesertguy9616
      @oldesertguy9616 3 місяці тому +2

      That's the weapon that immediately sprang to mind when he mentioned variable full-auto rates of fire.

  • @mavvh1054
    @mavvh1054 3 місяці тому +10

    I don't know if its just me, but a massive toggle lock going right next to my head would make me EXTREMELY disconcerted.

    • @acethedisgrace4479
      @acethedisgrace4479 2 місяці тому +1

      It probably helps to be wearing a futuristic space helmet.

  • @o.m.5269
    @o.m.5269 3 місяці тому +15

    The Mortar Sentry, might take inspiration from atleast partially, how the Mjölner, CV90 Mounted Mortar System, reloads

  • @keeganwilliams8046
    @keeganwilliams8046 3 місяці тому +16

    Something I Learned from Zach Hazard, you can adjust the timing on M2 Browning MG and its .30 cal counterpart, making it fire “faster” but also increases the chance of an out of battery detonation

  • @doodleboi4744
    @doodleboi4744 3 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for doing a part 2. The Breaker is my favorite gun in the game, and I was sad to see you didn't cover it last time.

  • @Svoorhout85
    @Svoorhout85 3 місяці тому +26

    Im pretty sure that the cybernetic prosthetic armor is a reference to warhammer 40k's Tyrannic War Veterans. Who are essentially space marines with many Tyranid battles under their belt. They have very similair looking prosthetic limbs. But the main reason why I think this is because the cape and background card of the first set is called Tyrant Hunter.

  • @2ndToLast501
    @2ndToLast501 3 місяці тому +4

    This man is an absolute treasure, his knowledge and being able to balance how it works with video games is absolutely amazing. Never stop educating people about firearms!

  • @delvint9966
    @delvint9966 3 місяці тому +22

    on the 249 i think the older models still have it you can adjust the gas regulator and it increases rpm from like...750 to 1000? or something close to that if I am remebering right? Though they got rid of it with some newer ones i believe because it could also make it be under gassed and not work..or you could overgass it and break it.

    • @TheThunderkaos
      @TheThunderkaos 3 місяці тому +5

      The Negev LMG it has a gas regulator too and if i can remember y has a lower rpm for mag fed ammo and to high rpm for belt fed ammo

  • @KrassaMister22
    @KrassaMister22 3 місяці тому +7

    The Swiss army rifle Stgw90/SIG550 can change the firerate between 600RPM and 900RPM. But it is more used in case the gun is not feeding properly because of dirt or extrem cold

  • @Kage6415
    @Kage6415 3 місяці тому +6

    Actually, I just had a thought about the fire version of the breaker. What if it's actually projecting some form of thermite pellets that remain vacuum-sealed until it gets fired out the barrel, igniting when finally exposed to oxygen?

  • @Insan1tyW0lf
    @Insan1tyW0lf 3 місяці тому +17

    16:51 Made with lightning - REAL LIGHTNING!

  • @BlazingImp77151
    @BlazingImp77151 2 місяці тому +1

    Since i havent seen it mentioned in the comments or the video, something interesting of note is the fact that some of the devs were actually conscripts for the swedish army, and they also are reaching out to people who have experience with firearms.

  • @LumiVerseHQ
    @LumiVerseHQ 2 місяці тому +2

    Solid breakdown of Helldivers 2's weapons, makes you appreciate the detail!!

  • @HQ_Default
    @HQ_Default 3 місяці тому +5

    I'd be interested in seeing Jonathan talk about some of the weapons of the Quake series.
    For Quake 1 I really just want to see him speculate on how the nailgun would work (I can't imagine he'd have much to say about the other guns except "yup that's a shotgun"), but from Quake 2 onwards the weapons start to take more design cues from real guns, and I think it'd be interesting to hear his thoughts on some of them.

  • @oleglegenchuk6615
    @oleglegenchuk6615 3 місяці тому +3

    More! WE NEED MORE!!! Please do part 3)))

  • @meanmanturbo
    @meanmanturbo 3 місяці тому +2

    4:34 yeah, Swedish ksp-58/FN-MAG have alot of possitions on the gas regulator. That is primarily for letting more gas through if the gun is fouled up, but it also de facto lets you alter rate of fire quite alot.

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 3 місяці тому +12

    Doing the Praise The Sun pose at a nuclear explosion is next-generation memery.

  • @maggyyolokraut1941
    @maggyyolokraut1941 3 місяці тому +4

    17:45 the Piranha V would disagree
    it actual has that kind of lording system on its mortar module
    so not unrealistic at all.

  • @LordAnubisGaming
    @LordAnubisGaming 3 місяці тому +6

    If y'all do Ghost Recon: Future Soldier in a future vid you can slow down or increase the RPM of most of the weapons. I guess the idea was/is higher RPMs can provide better cover fire, apply more rounds down range, and give your opponent pause for thought. That said I never do that unless I'm messing around and firehosing a corridor. I prefer to slow down most of my rifles to improve accuracy and handling.

  • @Sam-jt4rl
    @Sam-jt4rl 3 місяці тому +1

    Amazing. I was using the Autocanon yesterday and wondered what ol Jonny boy would think of it. Cheer's, brother!

  • @Ghelasin
    @Ghelasin 3 місяці тому +2

    On the subject of the over-the-shoulder autocannon, Barret actually made an over-the-shoulder .50 BMG rifle meant for engaging helicopters and other light airborne targets, the M82A2, the idea is to move much of the weight behind you so that you can hold and aim it properly while standing, which is very much necessary if you plan to shoot things above you. It was never actually adopted though.

  • @CJRodgers
    @CJRodgers 3 місяці тому +4

    The lightning gun (arc thrower) is probably making bugs explode because the bugs are engineered to produce space fuel used to run FTL engines.

  • @miles8385
    @miles8385 3 місяці тому +4

    Just once I'd like to see a game which accurately portrays the sound of a nuclear detonation, and the delay between being able to see the explosion and being able to hear it (at survivable ranges, that is)

    • @crestfallenneet2167
      @crestfallenneet2167 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah unfortunately you kinda gotta design the sound engine with proper sound travel in mind. On paper/pseudocode it's fairly simple though, if the sound emitter is x game units away from player, delay sound playback by x amount of time based on distance, and then also whatever sound modulation/effects you wanna add based on distance as well.

    • @miles8385
      @miles8385 3 місяці тому +4

      @@crestfallenneet2167 For a special event like a nuke going off they could just "cheat" by having the sound delayed by a set amount of time, since the nuke is aimed beyond the playable game area anyway. That way there's no need to actually have the game calculate the sound delay.

  • @AcinonyxFoxD1
    @AcinonyxFoxD1 3 місяці тому +1

    The USAF Museum in Dayton Ohio has a ICBM Gallery incase any of you are interested in visiting. I went there and it was both amazing and terrifying to stand at ground level next to previously active ICBMS

  • @user-sw6ww1oj6k
    @user-sw6ww1oj6k 3 місяці тому +1

    14:43 The JAR-5 is basically a bolter. As that's what a bolter is, a jet propelled large caliber rifle. Usually with explosive rounds, but not always.

  • @themarvelouschester3587
    @themarvelouschester3587 3 місяці тому +10

    This video goes well with a cup of LIBER-TEA!

  • @AgeOldCure
    @AgeOldCure 3 місяці тому +4

    Lets not forget the really cool feature where bouncing rounds can and will hit your teammates. I am being sarcastic, but it is a cool feature that i appreciate, even when it gets me killed.

  • @thou_dog
    @thou_dog 3 місяці тому +2

    There are modern automatic muzzle-loading mortars, and they do use a mechanical arm to load. They're a little different than this, though, with the rounds being fed into a vertical stack by a crew from below.

  • @derekp2674
    @derekp2674 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks Dave, Jonathan and team. Some nice sci-fi guns there.
    Obviously I enjoyed seeing the railgun. I see its projectiles leave a visible trail behind them. That is a nice touch because such trails were actually seen (caused by air ionisation?) in the pioneering 1970s work with the ANU Canberra railgun, when hypervelocity projectiles were fired in air.
    I enjoyed the lightning gun too, but I think those are more a case of sci-fi magic.

  • @mistertililing5933
    @mistertililing5933 3 місяці тому +10

    The revolver 1:00 is based off the Mateba2006M which has a similar cylinder rotation when reloading. Saw it also in the Ghost In The Shell series.

  • @greymangaming1877
    @greymangaming1877 3 місяці тому +12

    [Comment is under investigation for treason]

  • @tenou213
    @tenou213 Місяць тому

    This guy is a such a pro! Perfect tracking and explanation of all the features and design elements.

  • @Rakschas666
    @Rakschas666 3 місяці тому +2

    The Jar-5 Dominator reminds me a lot of the Inkunzi PAW. Patlabor aesthetics future knick angles, round mag, delayed fuse rounds, all that good stuff.

  • @asfdasdful
    @asfdasdful 3 місяці тому +3

    Been waiting

    • @Ivy64_
      @Ivy64_ 3 місяці тому

      "I've been waiting for this!"

  • @marcellosilva9286
    @marcellosilva9286 3 місяці тому +4

    +1 week pushing for a E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy, Darkwatch or Resistance episode.

    • @KudoRedfox
      @KudoRedfox 3 місяці тому +1

      The guns in Resistance will be a field trip

  • @sircdrom
    @sircdrom 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved it! Some of the cooler weapons shown in Part 2 here

  • @yvesgingras1475
    @yvesgingras1475 2 місяці тому +1

    more please! cant wait for part 3!

  • @HIT14MAN2
    @HIT14MAN2 3 місяці тому +3

    Jonathan should look at the guns of SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare

  • @CaersethVarax
    @CaersethVarax 3 місяці тому +1

    Literally everything about that shoulder mounted, crew served, toggle autocannon excites me.

  • @WhoLongDragon
    @WhoLongDragon 2 місяці тому +1

    Another “variable” rate of fire gun that comes to mind is the BAR with its slow and fast automatic settings

  • @kronosestarfinder9574
    @kronosestarfinder9574 3 місяці тому +2

    for the auto cannon it always reminded me at least in function as that shoulder mounted Barret .50 America was messing with in I believe the 80s or 90s that was intended to act as a anti helicopter weapon. sadly I don't remember what its name was.

  • @dsphotographyedinburgh4973
    @dsphotographyedinburgh4973 3 місяці тому +1

    There's actually a few autoloading mortar systems out there, they are usually vehicle mounted and basically exist for firing very very quick volleys and then scooting off to safety.

    • @viggopilblad
      @viggopilblad 2 місяці тому

      the swedish grkpbv 90 for example

  • @katanavx0331
    @katanavx0331 3 місяці тому +1

    The giggle when bringing out the bullpup 50 caliber rifle (or whatever category it is), hahahahahaha! Never change, Mr. Ferguson!

  • @MrLocain
    @MrLocain 3 місяці тому +1

    the chuckle at 07:04 made me smile :D

  • @zanaduz2018
    @zanaduz2018 3 місяці тому +2

    There’s an upcoming warbond that’s set to add yet more weapon types (which arrives on the 14th), so I already anticipate there being a 3rd episode for Helldivers 2…

  • @batcat4136
    @batcat4136 2 місяці тому

    Not something you covered but I appreciate that for all the one handed guns they have added one-banded reload animations, frequently with your character putting the gun on his chest, then inserting the magazine, like with the SMG or with the revolver he opens and empties with one hand, then puts it on his chest again with the cylinder open and inserts the rounds before flicking it closed again. We’ve come a long way from just waving the gun around offscreen and suddenly it has bullets again

  • @illidan814
    @illidan814 2 місяці тому +1

    There are top loader mortars in modern arms with similar system like the mortar sentry. The CV-90 with Mortar got similar loading system with difference that the ammunition is prepared by crew inside of the vehicle and its twin barrel.

  • @TexasToast712
    @TexasToast712 3 місяці тому +1

    I knew he would get a kick out of the Autocannon. My favorite weapon. Togglelock firearms are so cool.

  • @MrManDudeReviews
    @MrManDudeReviews 3 місяці тому

    If i ever travel to the UK, ill be going to that museum. Had no idea that the inception of the machine gun had the "rapid fire" and "more rapid fire" modes. Very cool.

  • @Nagria2112
    @Nagria2112 3 місяці тому +2

    when i see a Nuke i "Praise the sun" like @19:42

  • @TheGrace020
    @TheGrace020 3 місяці тому

    Wow i was just like perhaps Jonathan is in a new epic video hopefully about Helldivers again and here we are 😻

  • @Xaevryn
    @Xaevryn 3 місяці тому +1

    FINALLY! I've been waiting for this one!

  • @valkoharja
    @valkoharja 2 місяці тому

    Another excellent video. Thank you.

  • @DrWhite
    @DrWhite 3 місяці тому +1

    I like to think the autocannon's stripper clip guide has a spring loaded base - once you've pushed the rounds in, the tension in the spring is released and it pings itself free.

    • @griz561
      @griz561 3 місяці тому

      it reminds me of Mosin stripper clips, those stay outside the gun while you push the rounds out and will eject themselves (although not nearly as vigorously) if you do it right

  • @maxfrankel5139
    @maxfrankel5139 3 місяці тому +1

    One cool detail is that the devs recently nerfed the Breaker shotgun, reducing it's ammo per mag- this was paired with changing the double-stack magazine into a single stack ingame as well so it's actually represented by the art.

  • @Dunkopf
    @Dunkopf 3 місяці тому

    I love it when he pulls out something ive nevwr seen!

  • @soccermaniac2819
    @soccermaniac2819 3 місяці тому +1

    Loved the take on these guns. Good to see an expert's reaction/opinion with real world examples. Not all game guns are realistic, but they don't need to be, they just need to be plausible and fun for the player, but still good to see the adaptation from a real world design that was made with certain intent or to solve a particular issue like heat or feed system.
    Loved the SR-9, never seen one of those before. Really cool design and reload system. Looks too heavy for a 1 man use.

  • @ZekeAxel
    @ZekeAxel 3 місяці тому

    This game is just such a treat with all of these little details.

  • @NXTangl
    @NXTangl 2 місяці тому

    IIUC, variable-charge breech loading autoloaders not only exist, but are often outfitted with targeting software that allows them to send multiple rounds downrange starting with a very high trajectory and ending with a flatter one such that all rounds land on target at the same time for maximum impact and psychological damage.

  • @jojobojer9543
    @jojobojer9543 3 місяці тому +2

    4:36 the new german LMG has it, LMG5 from H&K has 640/720/800 rpm switch

  • @toddoverholt4556
    @toddoverholt4556 10 днів тому

    I love that the shotguns have good range. The punisher, which is the first one you get and is the pump action with the double Shell tubes, can be used up to a fairly good distance

  • @CrazyxCactus
    @CrazyxCactus 3 місяці тому

    The Autocanon reminds me of a Mauser stripper clip with a Luger style ejection of the rounds. I like that Luger feeling animation with each round when it's ejected.

  • @DoktorJest
    @DoktorJest 3 місяці тому

    The little laugh when the SR9 got picked up ❤

  • @HYpr1337time
    @HYpr1337time 2 місяці тому

    4:30 M249 SAW.
    variable firerate is usually found in guns made to work in subzero temps, where fluids inside the rifle contract, thus needing more energy to be moved around properly.

  • @danwhite7410
    @danwhite7410 3 місяці тому

    I actually visited The Royal Armories because I enjoy this series so much!