The Man Who Injured the Gods: The Glory of Diomedes - The Trojan War Saga Ep18
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- The Man Who Injured the Gods: The Glory of Diomedes - The Trojan War Saga Ep18- Greek Mythology in Comics - See U in History
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It's a shame Diomedes isn't as famous a hero. The guy was an absolute machine.
He is my FAVORITE !!!!
@@SpartanLeonidas1821 At least they made a video for him. 😉
Diomedes kills Pandarus, almost kills Aeneas, and wounds ares and aphrodite
Diomedes was lucky he survived the war
@@chrisedwards3214 Diomedes was the greatest mortal warrior to grace a battlefield according to Homer
He isn't famous in pop culture but was the most famous Greek warrior of ancient Greece lol. So much so he's worshipped as a god and has 2 most famous epics to his name
Zeus: "I won't involve myself with human's affair... unless it's an affair with their female kind".
🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's a Miracle he din't go to Helen
Hahaha
Zeus: wait that doesn’t seems fair… I also gonna do affairs with their male kind. I am truly a fair God
Zeus in a nutshell
Ares: Dad...! That Diomedes guy is so mean! He wounded me with a spear!
Zeus: Dear me... You got stabbed in the battlefield and the first thing you do is to start crying? What a God of War you are, huh...
@@MrRoss-uj5if the fact that there could have been someone like kratos but zeus didn't let it happen is surprising for me
Mars to Ares:"Pathetic!"
Finally the legendary warrior King of Argos and Prince of Aetolia, the son of Tydeus, the man who fought 3 Olympian gods, Diomedes! One of the greatest injustices in the movies made for the Trojan War, is that the absolute Achean Hero, Diomedes, who is one of the protagonists, in the first half of the Iliad is always absent.
He would steal the show from everyone, although i agree with you Diomedes is a beast
All Olympian Gods were Dark haired and Olive skinned, so I don't know why you are getting all happy about it, they did not look at all like Germans, celts or Scandinavians, we Greeks are Mediterranean and we are Not related to Nordic people.
A 2017 study on the genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans showed that modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the early Neolithic ancestry. The results of the study support the idea of genetic continuity between these civilizations and modern Greeks in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations. ACCORDING TO THE SAME STUDY, ANCIENT GREEKS MOSTLY CARRIED GENES FOR DARKER HAIR AND EYES.
Lazaridis, Iosif; et al. (2017). "Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans". Nature. 548: 214-218. doi:10.1038/nature23310
Science Magazine, 2 August 2017, "The Greeks really do have near-mythical origins, ancient DNA reveals".
Live Science, 3 August 2017, More than Myth: Ancient DNA Reveals Roots of 1st Greek Civilizations
Katherine Lindemann, DNA analysis traces origins of Minoans and Mycenaeans, ResearchGate, 2nd August 2017
The Best preserved Roman frescoes, Mosaics and their Painted Statues all show Black and Brown haired people, not Blonde or Red hairs.. EVER... The only Blonde haired people I have seen are those depicting Germanic and Gallic slaves and Prostitutes. All of the Paintings and Mosaics of Gods and Goddesses and that Mosaic of Alexander are all Black haired and Dark haired. The same with the painted statue of ATHENA Campegna, the only Originally painted statue that has survived shows ATHENA Campegna as Jet Black haired, with Olive Tawny skin, MARS is painted as Swarthy by the Greeks and Romans and VENUS APHRODITE is painted as Dark haired with large Dark eyes and so is APOLLON.
@@hailheaven4372 in no part of his comment he is talking about the how the greeks look, he is saying he is happy diomedes appeared and is mentioned, since in nearly every form of media that shows the war of troy like the movie "troy" or the series "the fall of troy" (the one of netflix, can remember the exact name) they either dont show diomedes or is shown ones. When in theory he was a one of the main heroes of that war. Idk why you involved their looks but if im not mistaken i dont remember exactly if its was achilles or menelao was blonde and that is said in the illiad. So although i agree with you in the fact that more than likely the greeks of that time where of dark hair doesnt mean all of them where
Preach!!!
I think you need to have the gods showing up in battle to show his story properly. Most adaptions dont go in that direction. Would be pretty cool if they did.
My favorite hero from Iliad.A mortal man,not a demigod fighting against the gods and the only character that Homer dedicates several pages for his deeds.The only one except Achilles.Respect.
diomedes was better than achilles EFF achilles
"He fights with fury and fills men's soul with panic. I hold him mightiest of them all; we did not even fear their great champion Achilles, son of an immortal though he be, as we do this man: his rage is beyond all bounds and there is none that can vie with him in prowess". Trojans' honest thoughts about Diomedes.
Excellent video, but you should 've added two crucial things.
1. Goddess Athena bestowed on Diomedes the ability to see the Gods on the field
2. Goddess Aphrodite took revenge on Diomedes, by making his wife in Argos fall in love and marry another man who became king in his place.
Diomedes showed understanding because he was missing way too long and left Argos. Once again he proved that he was an honorable man, not allowing Aphrodite to ruin him
When does number 2 happen?!?
After or during the trojan war?
@@truthspreader1996 You are indeed correct, number 2 happened way after the Trojan war ended
But the importance of this information is way too great, to be left out in my opinion. Almost noone will learn it if it is not mentioned. Most people will only learn Diomedes' story from this one video
So, i believe it should have been mentioned that goddess Aphrodite had her revenge when she made his wife love and marry another man. There, our hero was once again tested, when he found her wife unfaithful. What did he do?
His response was once again heroic as he forgave her and understood her. He found the strength in his heart to do this despite the pain he felt.
His response made goddess Athena smile as the goddess of wisdom was once again glorified, when our hero Diomedes overcame the passions of his heart. Our hero has succesfully completed the internal journey and then, was granted immortality by Goddess Athena.
That is the path of the hero
Diomedes should have seen that coming
I find it hilarious that Ares the god of discord who loves war and conflict. Goes to whine to his daddy the moment he actually gets hurt.
A lot of the stories in greek mythology didnt come in one place some where written in different regions.
In some of them where ares is considered as a crybaby is likely wrote by the athenians because they value athena more than ares.
Bro tru
Ares deserves to be wounded in war anyways. After all the people he killed in war. 😡
Btw, Ares is the god of just war. The divinity of discord is Eris.
Funny thing is when the same thing happened to Artemis turns into a doting daddy.
😁
Diomedes was one of the Acheans who entered to the Trojan Horse, alonside his close friend Odysseus, Achilles's son Neoptolemus, Philoctetes and Menelaus. After the end of War of Troy, he returned to Argos, only to find out that Aphrodite took her revenge on him... His wife Aegialia, in his absence had multiple lovers, and the last one made him, king. Diomedes not wanting to harm his wife, who he still loved her, and bring civil war to his people, he took his warriors, and sailed to Italy. In Italy he founded almost a dozen of cities. And then a surprise came to him. One day he was asked by a local king to fight against another newcomer, his old adversary Aeneas, who was has also settled in Italy. Diomedes in a moment of greatness, he refused, saying that his war against the Trojans was long over, and adviced the local king to make peace with Aeneas. In some versions of the myth, Diomedes and Aeneas actually they met in Italy, where Diomedes restored to Aeneas the Palladium, and both became friends and allies. After his death, Diomedes was adored as a divinity by the cities of Southern Italy.
Thank you! 🙏
this is fan faction created by virgilius
@@starcapture3040, all mythology is fanfiction
Interesting
Wow... a pretty cool Greek Hero.
And actually, tbh, the fact his wife betrayed him but he decided to instead take the men who wanted to go with him to Italy and live out in greatness and peace is cool too.
Don't bother fighting for a treacherous partner, just leave and instead become better than you were and leave the Old partner behind
Diomedes is easily the most underrated of the Greek. Most people don't know him, although he was one of the major characters. What fascinates me is how there don't seem to be any other works revolving around him(that we know of) like with so many other characters in the Iliad
Actually Diomedes was the protagonist in the events of the War of the Epigoni, against Thebes, before the Trojan War.
@@pseudomonas03Diomedes and sthenelus even tells agamennon that they took down the city of Thebes
While Diomedes is definitely a badass, technically it was Athena that injured Ares using her power, at least that’s how it happened in the Iliad. Diomedes still injured Aphrodite alone in the Iliad though which is still pretty cool
Diomedes had a gift: In moments of great danger, he was able to see the otherwise invisible gods, in case they were indeed involved, and warn his people, if that´s what happens is a natural phenomenon, and thus, an accident, or if some god is bringing them in danger, so that his people accomodate their behaviour and reaction respectively. He was surely brave and strong, but it was this special gift of him, that led Athena chose him as her Protegé that day, and make extraordinary use (above the usual) of this gift. Her help was guaranteeing only half of the success, and his special (but usually suboptimally exploited) gift was the other half...
She guided him, just like Apollo guided Paris to strike Achilles
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Actually, Athena allowed him to see the gods fighting in the war, but told him not to attack them, but the first thing he does when he sees Ares, is charge like a beast to confront him, and Athena has no other choice but to stand on his side. Man, after he injures Ares & makes him go back to Olympus crying & Zeus tells Ares how pathetic & terrible he is, that the only reason he's not in Tartarus with the sons of Ouranos, is because he's his son.
@@antonius.martinus As long as I know, Diomedes had this gift since his birth, but as u can imagine, it´s a rather useless gift, cause mortals rarely had to do anything with gods, so, it was a gift, that he hast rarely used. For example, Diomedes recognized Apollon, speading the plague with his arrows and bow in the greek barracks much earlier, but didn´t know what to do, cause he was shocked. in this special situation, Athena helped Diomedes exploit this underdeveloped gift to the max.
I don't like diomedes that much, because unlike Achilles, diomedes got scared of Apollo, despite having Athena behind his back
Apollo to Diomedes: "Step off Kid, Some of us Gods are a little sturdier than Aphrodite!"
Zeus to Ares: "Man Up you gigantic Disappointment! "
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I still find amazing how Diomedes could hurt Ares and Aphrodite but Apollo was a nope for him XD
@@despinasgarden.4100 Yeah... I think that is why Apollo said "Some" not "Other" Gods and why Zeus said "Disappointment", Red's dialogues were on point.
Zeus's hate and disgust, for his only legitimate son is legendary!
I love that video so much,I really hope to see it remade with Red and Blues new animation
Hey Guys can you tell me Why he didn't try to Provoke Apollo Except Ares and Aphrodite?
Diomedes: *dies and enters the underworld*
Hades: So, I heard you fought and wounded my nephew Ares.
Diomedes: I have.
Hades: You sir have some serious guts. I respect that. Enter the Fields of Elysium.
Diomedes was made an Immortal Olympian.
Diomedes is my favorite character of The Iliad and his encounters with the gods is great. A fearsome warrior and one who deserved to become immortal as he became.
Few words about the great Diomedes. He was son of Tydeus, Prince of Aetolia, one of the greatest warriors of his time, a berserker (almost like he was presented in the Rock's Hercules's movie), who was almost achieved immortality by the goddess Athena (but before he died in battle, he did something that disgusted Athena...). Diomedes even if he was quite young during the Trojan war, he was already a veteran warrior, since he had already partecipated in the second Theban war, also called the war of the Epigoni, occurred ten years later after his father's death, and he had defeated the usurpers of the throne of Aetolia, restoring his grandfather Oeneus to the throne. In Troy, Diomedes is the 2nd greatest Achean hero, after Achilles, and alongside Ajax. His warrior skills are combined though with wisdom for this reason he is one of Athena's favorites. Diomedes is known for killing some important Trojan warriors and allies like Pandarus (his death is one of the mosth "graphic" in Iliad), and the Thracian king Rhesus. Diomedes is also one of the few warriors in the Trojan war, who didn't commit the sin of hubris.
Diomedes had a gift: In moments of great danger, he was able to see the otherwise invisible gods, in case they were indeed involved, and warn his people, if that´s what happens is a natural phenomenon, and thus, an accident, or if some god is bringing them in danger, so that his people accomodate their behaviour and reaction respectively. He was surely brave and strong, but it was this special gift of him, that led Athena chose him as her Protegé that day, and make extraordinary use (above the usual) of this gift. Her help was guaranteeing only half of the success, and his special (but usually suboptimally exploited) gift was the other half...
What did Diomedes did to disgust Athena? I tried searching for some myths about it but could not find it
@@Worm739 Not Diomedes. Buy his father, Tydeus. Tydeus was considered one of the greatest warriors of his time, at the point, that Athena admired him and considered to make him immortal. But during the war of the Seven against Thebes, Tydeus was badly injured by one greatest warriors of Thebes, Melanippus. With his remaining forces Tydeus killed Melanippus, but according to a roman version of the myth, then the dying Tydeus asked from his friend Amphiarhaus, to decapitate Melanippus, and bring his head to him. Tydeus broke Melanippus's skull, and consumed his brain (perhaps some kind of reminiscent of primordial canibalistic savage rituals, who knows...). Athena disgusted from this act, changed her mind, and let Tydeus die from his wounds.
It's hard to find honourable warriors in those times.
Diomedes was a freaking beast. He slew a huge number of Trojan heroes, Defeated a son of Aphrodite, and attacked three Olympian gods wounding two of them all in a single battle.
Actually when Aggamemnon attempted to provoke Diomedes , our brave hero out talked Aggamemnon saying to the king, pretty much the same thing Aggamemnon said to Achilles..." so Aggamemnon, if you want to leave...then leave...and take your huge army with you...your brave men.
As for myself...I will stay and fight with the others...and if they leave...I will fight the Trojans alone...until Troy falls.
Not word for word but the entire army stood and cheered this greatest speech of the illad.
Diomedes is better than achilles, brad pitt & agamemnon & hector combined
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Bruh...Stop. Diomedes was a true hero 👏
But he was no Achilles.
@@bigalsnow8199 arrow of paris
In his battles with the gods, he went 2-1-1. Two victories, one defeat(death comes to everyman), and one no contest. Apollo narrowly escaped.
Lol diomedes didn't have the guts to fight Apollo, despite having Athena behind his back 😂😂😂 unlike Achilles
Also which god defeated diomedes? He didn't even fight anyone else
@@reader7508 Death is often referred to as a god. The Homer explicitly states that he tried twice to challenge Apollo before Athena warned him to fall back.
@@michaelmccarty1327 as you said Athena told him to back off
If diomedes truly was that strong, athena would have let him fight Apollo. In your original comment you literally said Apollo nearly escaped, lol, even Achilles, many times stronger than diomedes died because he offended Apollo
@@reader7508Athena didn't want the mortals thinking they could fight and wound gods whenever they wished... Achilles made that mistake. Read up before you spout ignorance so confidently.
The badass who always gets ignored.
Aeneas: He’s hit in the shoulder! I’ve won
Diomedes: Tis a flesh wound
This channel should be pick up by Netflix or any other service, this is too good for UA-cam and deserves larger views
Yeah. In my opinion, this channel is really underrated :/
Just discovered these videos. Its the most beautiful re-telling of greek myth i have ever seen. Truly amazing
There's an epic sequence in the Iliad , after Achileus cousin died confronting Hector . The Trojans empowered counter attacked and reached all the way to the greek ships even burning some of them, the greek army was in retreat. Diomedes and Oddyseus partnered up and together pushed through the trojan onslaught making their way through many Trojan heroes and basically being an army of two until diomedes was injured and they had to withdraw.
actually MENELAUS was the ally of diomedes in that battle not a lightweight coward like oddyseus
Omg keep it coming bro these videos are amazing please
An important detail was left out, tha´t was crusial: Diomedes had a gift: In moments of great danger, he was able to see the otherwise invisible gods, in case they were indeed involved, and warn his people, if that´s what happens is a natural phenomenon, and thus, an accident, or if some god is bringing them in danger, so that his people accomodate their behaviour and reaction respectively. He was surely brave and strong, but it was this special gift of him, that led Athena chose him as her Protegé that day, and make extraordinary use (above the usual) of this gift. Her help was guaranteeing only half of the success, and his special (but usually suboptimally exploited) gift was the other half...
He also has noticed, that god Apollon was infecting the Greeks with the plague, via his arrows, to take revenge for the previous kidnapping of one of the troyan priestesses from his temple. He was unable to do something, but was the first one to notice what really happens, cause he saw the god Apollon steadfast walking among the Greeks, around their own barracks, and shooting arrows on them, thereby them falling down, hit by the plague.
Do you know where I can read the trojan war ?
@@nicolasndjiondjop1621 Is this a joke?
@@Gabronthe it's true tho.
Diomedes was such a great warrior. I'm waiting for his spying mission with Odysseus.
I'm still waiting for the part of the Trojan war were Hera beats up Artemis with her own bow.
Wait, WHAT?!!!
Did that really happen?
@@leoneagle8514 yep, i am pretty sure it happened
I think it’s really sweet that Aphrodite went to go rescue Aeneas after diomedes hit him even though she drops him like an idiot like 3 seconds later. She at least tries to be a good mom.
❤ all your video's mate 👍.
My favourite character from the Iliad for this exact reason
Zeus basically says, "Y'all shouldn't be in this in the first place."
I have only one word to describe this vid: Awesome!!!
My fave hero of the illiad even Odysseus, aggamennon and Achilles didn't want that smoke.
Wrong! Achilles almost fought Diomedes, but the others prevented it.
Nice art! Good job
You do an amazing job! He is my favourite out of all the heroes of the Trojan war and I am excited and positively surprised that you dedicated an episode for him. Humble and not arrogant like Achilles was he is one of the few if not the only hero in Mythology that disrespected the Gods by wounding them and treating like equals and still was not punished or lost his life for it. What a guy!
Diomedes was always my favorite, dude a dawg and Argos is the hood fr
I'm greek and I live in Argos , over hear diomidis is a symbol of the city and even our sports teams are named after him
Good video 👊🏻
underated warrrior
Zeus also probably told Ares to stop complaining because he saw Ares throw a spear first at his favourite daughter Athena.
Zeus always played favorites with his daughters
Probably
Great video.
BTW When will v get to see the next story of The Legends of Camelot
how come there in't a movie based on Diomedes?
Oh I can't wait to see you have Hector chew Paris up.
Also I hope you will show when Diomedes returns home, you will show how his wife cheated on him. Plus when he is in Italy and Aeneas comes and refuses to fight him
Such Balls he had 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He didnt fear their revenge
Intelligence and strength in a single man. Its rare to see both these abilities in their peak in a single person
on my list of best channels
King Diomedes of Argos. The badass of the Trojan War. I also hope you will animate when Zeus & Poseidon were about to fight eachother, it was great when Zeus sent Nike to tell Poseidon not to fight & threatened him, then Poseidon tells Nike to go tell Zeus not to forget that he's not the only son of Kronos & he was not afraid of him. And Hades feared that in their battle, they would end up not only destroy heaven & earth, but the underworld as well.
Interesting ist interesting a man who can wound a God such power
Diomedes had a lot of nerve hurting a God.
So precious!!
Ares: **Gets 320 no scoped** Dad! This mortal hurt me **cries**
Zeus: it's your game you decided to play stop whining like a baby.
When you read the Illiad yo realize that Diomedes is the one that the story portrays as the ultimate warrior, and not Achiles. Achiles is more of an anti hero. Diomedes is basically Superman.
Diomedes is sooooo awesome
Zeus didnt want to get involved "Look, I want to help. I do, but I'm busy. Ive got a long day of sexually assaulting pretty much any mortal I want with zero consequences. I'm booked Solid."
Hah!, even the Greek pantheon had to deal with DIO!.
Awesome
Gods! This reminds me of how much fun I had reading the Iliad.
Dionedes is my second favourite Greek hero of this war
This is a pretty good summary of book 5 of the Iliad
Hey guys, do you know where can I find arts from this video or the whole comic book?
The Valiant Deeds of Diomedes
My online gaming name has been King Diomedes forever. I loved this guy the moment I read of him in the Iliad
Ok, isn't Ichor supposed to be glowing gold??!!
“YOU HAVE CAPTAIN DIOMEDES!”
Favorite Achaean hero since elementary school. Took 80 ships to the Trojan War assisted by his fellow Epigoni Sthenelus son of Capaneus and Euryalos son of Mecisteus.
3:10 zeus telling aphrodite he doesn't want to get involved in human quarrels like the whole thing isn't their fault in the first place.
1:55 “Bruva, I am hit!”
- Diomedes, probably
Fan from Kerala ❤❤❤❤
my favourite Greek Hero 💓💓💓💓💓
All im gonnA say is in all stories gods their anger and revenge have always gotten back at man..
I've always thought that 90% of the Greek gods were overgrown children with too much power.
@@kishoredhar3660 hundred percent
I think this myth might be good with a bit of astrotheology applied. Really has the feel of a planetary battle.
Music for this episode
Even Achilles doesn’t go around picking fights with the gods. Maybe this guy coulda beaten hector too
Achilies if im not mistaken fought and was almost killed by a River God
@@davidneal3889 A son of Oceanus. I think his name was Scamander.
Lol Achilles had the guts to fight Apollo. Diomedes ran away like a scaredy cat, despite having Athena behind his back 😂
@@reader7508Did he wound Apollo though?.
@@ktheterkuceder6825 No. There's no shame in that though. The only mortal that had the guts, skill and power to fight and beat gods was Heracles.
YES!!!!!!!
My favorite hero of the Trojan War, I just wish he was in more media like the Hollywood Movie Troy and more games…. Idk why he’s so forgotten
Whenever I see Zeus I hear Candyshop playing in the background
Anyone knows what music's does see u in history use?
Zeus after hearing about a man injuring two gods, and them crying to him: Jeez they are babies, hopefully after a few more affairs I can forget this.
All good and that but you didn't put nothing of vallenatos.
thanks i learned something new, never really heard that gods joined the trojan war. i only know the greeks kinda ruin the temple of apollo then the god kinda got angry and also there are some more heroes from troy i never heard off
Nice🤔
PLEASE, DO MORE ARTHURIAN LEGENDS, PLEEEEEEAAAASE!!!!
This man should have been in record of ragnarok
Diomedes, the first Kratos 💪
What’s the name of this comic? 🙏
Trojan war.
Ares and Aphrodite got hurt on the battlefield and went to Zeus to tell him about their injuries but couldn't they like heal themselves since they're Gods? I don't get it because they got the power to do pretty much everything that they want, like blessing and cursing but they can't heal themselves? What's your opinion on this
I wish there were more renowned Trojan warriors tbh
Forgive me Diomedes to thinking that your name was “Diabetes”.
Normally, anyone who assaulted a deity would b smited on the spot.
Yeah but in these cases it was not the mortal who became arrogant and challenged or offended a god. It was Gods who got involved in human affairs even though zeus told them not to.
The war is not over yet with Ares their is still more
Diomedes in mythology: A dude that hurt gods
Diomedes in fictional that isn't to do with mythology: YOU HAVE CAPTAIN DIOMEDES! IT IS THE BANEBLADE!
Ares: Daddy, Diomedes wounded me with a spear.😢
Zeus: Son, I told you so many times! Stop your wars now!
Zeus has long awaited to act serious.
I'm in love with Athena, Aphrodite, Persephone,Hera,Demeter, And Artemis.
Basically all the Greek goddesses
Maybe Dio achieved to bleed Aphrodite because he was infused with Athena’s god-force?
And yet he is not even a demigod. Such terrifying warrior second only to Achilles.
Yeah, where was Paris at this time? Lpitering outside Helen's quarters I imagine
You have Captain Diomedes!
Dawn of War II joke lel.
Which side are y'all on and why?
Fights in war, cries when someone attacks them? 🤷♂️
I wonder if he would beat Achilles in a fight 🤔
Zeus was like: no