The fact I look at a dradis readout in this series and it tells me everything I need to know to draw the scene out in my head. That was the real icing that made the space combat into good film of the whole series
"Best way to avoid attracting attention. No power signature, going in a straight line. Unless somebody actually gets close enough to see us, we'll look like a chunk of debris on the sensors. I think we have enough innertia to make it to Caprica's atmosphere, then we power up and find a place to land" It's little things like this that makes this show just that much more enjoyable.
This scene is so impactfull because in retrospect we know how much these experienced pilots (and their state of the art vipers) would have helped in the years after. The (presumably) créme de la créme of galactica's pilot corps wiped out in 5 seconds.
Actually, attacking from the direction of the sun blinds the enemy to your approach. It gave the Raider far more time to sneak in close. Good tactic in warfare.
As an old timer for the original Battlestar Galactica, It took me a while to warm up to this series but when I put my prejudices aside I really enjoyed the series. It was very well made and the stories kept you glued. Really awesome series just like the original with incredible fight scenes with that pounding drum made it tense.
I treat the new series as a prequel to the original. My theory is the new series happened first. Unknown to them, humanity on all twelve Colonies survived, repopulated, and eventually forgot all about the Cylons. Meanwhile, humans on Earth forgot all about the Colonies. The surviving Cylons eventually fell in with a lizard race that took the name Cylons for themselves and ultimately controlled the Cylons. Then the Cylons attacked the Hasari and "all of this has happened before and will happen again."
Well, I guess I am an "old timer for the original Battlestar Galactica", in that I watched it live on TV when I was about eight years old. I liked it a lot, and looked forward to it. Then I grew up, and in 2004 when I was in my 30s, the new series came out. I had a friend trying to convince me to watch it, but I couldn't get over the name. To me, it was a cornball, cheesy show, more or less on par with naming a show Chuck E. Cheese's. Battlestar Galactica, to me, was a show with a kid and a robot dog ... a show where a planet had a village terrorized by a damaged Cylon that thought he was the sheriff ... goofy, silly, kid-level stuff. Go back and watch the original as an adult and you'll see what I mean. The pilot is pretty good, but after that, it goes south very quickly, and that is not even getting into the sequel where they are mostly on earth and literally include educational statements because they know kids are watching. A few years later, circa 2010, I finally watched it, and wow ... what a great show. I could go on about what makes it great, but you either get it or you don't. Hint, it's not really special effects or space battles.
Realistic yes but plausible? How so? As discussed in multiple forums, there are no computer systems in modern military equipment that all run on the same software. Its a pretty obvious fail to have something so vulnerable, especially when your main enemies are A.I., LMAO. This scenario plays into some people's long-time fears about automation replacing humans, and modernization, since many people become resistant to learning new technologies in their 30s. This type of fear is so old and so prominent in older generations that there are multiple Twilight Zone episodes that touch upon this. For a TV miniseries where the writers want to move the plot along to get from point A to point B, and hopefully get picked up by a Network, this is fine. But in terms of actual plausibility? Nope, I think not. Do you know how stupid you have to be to tie in your primary systems into Wi-Fi? LOL If the Colonials were that dumb, there is no way the Galactica would have survived. Don't get me wrong BSG is one of my fav shows of all time, but I hope that in the future any reboots do a better job at plausibility. Sorry for the rant, but if you are talking about military jargon, firearms, and other tech and cultural norms that we share, then yes I agree. The writers did well to parody many things from our reality in order to teach us important lessons, and really get people invested, even those who normally don't watch sci-fi because they're put off by aliens and nonsensical sci-fi mumbo jumbo talk. To clarify I am not one those people. I love all of the Star franchises (i.e. Trek, Wars, Gate, etc.)
@@Beau74 I agree, the first half of the series was more enjoyable for me, Pegasus was my highlight. When it comes to their writing, I really enjoyed when the supernatural elements were there but not apparent. For example, did that pilot survive due to luck or a guiding hand? I like that because there are atheists and theists in my family, and though we respect each other's views, we are happy to work together towards common goals. At the end of the day, we are good people who enjoy helping others because it is the right thing to do. BSG had a similar theme going on and I loved that. But in the second half of the series, especially when Kara came back to life, that was 100% physical evidence of a supernatural force at work, which I think took away from the series' supernatural mystery. I never wanted an explanation or actual evidence. I wanted the "angels", prophecies, and everything else to be left up to debate. This way by series end you can debate forever about their survival being human will, fate, or some mix of the two. But as it stands, the Colonials seem less in control of their lives, with the majority of the events feeling predetermined. :(
@@Ajax1063 I had an extreme problem with some of the aspects of the show you just praised. While I didn't necessarily need EVERY mystery to be completely explained, it seemed clear to me that there were major plot points that they NEVER intended to explain. And if they never intended to explain them- would it not be safe to assume that there was no internal logic to those plot points in the first place? This Abrams-style black smoke storytelling is something that I detest beyond all measure.
You have been given a sign by the Cylon God, prepare for the exodus, a caravan will be lead through the heavens. You will breed with machines to form the next generation of Humanity. I'd recommend bringing some snacks, and anything that might help tell people who we were. I'd recommend youtube clips, music from every genre minus country, movies from the last 70 years, and some memes.
It's on weeknights at Comet TV now, and they're now mid season 3 - but I don't think they provisioned their servers well enough. Lots of dropped frames most of the time. Getting a box set is better. Edit: The dropped frames issue might have been because I was using Firefox to watch the show that night. Playback is a lot smoother on Chromium and Falkon browsers.
@BMT Galactica is the last of the original twelve Jupiter classes which represented a colony. Nothing's to say that the Jupiter that was gutted wasn't one constructed in the years after the armistice and approaching the end of her service life. Then again, that's just me trying to explain away how they didn't yet have any other battlestar models in the miniseries because of budgetary reasons.
When Helo seals off the hull breach with that vaccu-magnetic patch, it's a callback to the first episode of Lost in Space (1965) when MAJ West had to do the same thing after the robot went berserk.
We don't even know if Jolly got a speaking line. There was some radio chatter between Viper pilots, but none of them was identified as Jolly, and he never got any screen time.
@@dixievfd55 Thank god for that. Boxey and his stupid robot Daggit were the Jar Jar Binks of the original BSG. Boxey was also the son of the Colonial officer killed when the Cylons blew up the space station at the beginning of the min-series. You can see his photo on the desk.
@@brandonthesteele I doubt it, I mean if we look at Caprica that was set merely 60 years earlier. Apart from having a space faring society they were still pretty low tech, comparable to our 70's.
@Casanova Frankenstein Makes perfect sense. Look at how the colonies were in Caprica...They were 60's or 70's style aesthetics with Futuristic technology in certain aspects. The colonies in the reimagined show apart from Caprica were pretty backwater, But yet had access to space faring technology.
The show was so good when we thought the Cylons had a plan until we realized the writers didn't know what that plan was beyond blowing stuff up and following the main cast for 4 seasons
It fell apart at the end because of the writers strike of 2008 where we had to wait an extra year for the final season to be written by replacement writers. At least the ending we got wasn't a total loss.
I love the little thruster effects on these ships. Just like how a real spacecraft maneuvers in space. Shame we didn’t this on the bigger ships like Galactica
5:31 I still wonder what the hell happened to that battlestar on the left. Doesn't look like it cracked in half naturally from hull damage, the hangar pods wouldn't have snapped in the same direction like that, still right where they were before it split. Looks like something rammed straight through it and made a clean cut down the middle, and now it's just floating there, slowly drifting apart.
I think the middle got heavily damaged and a crack opened up, then another large bomb dropped onto the head (where a big crater is as well) and the impact made the head bow down, which then seperated the ship along the crack completely.
By the design that seem like a Jupiter (aka same class as Galactica) which i think that this is most likely what happened As the ship go to engage it got disabled and have a raider squardon do a bombing run on it with nuke which crack the hull before the ammunition inside the middle cook off and pull the ship apart
@@Untun Why repair crew. They could easily just hide as ship crew. saul was serving on galactica for decades and he was only send to the colonies after the first cylon war. The cylons had infiltrated all parts of colonial society apart from amybe the highest leadership. They designed their entire military based on espionage they did on the colonies. Their basestars arent designed to fight battlestars, they are designed to deploy as many fighters/bombers as possible immediatly and throw as many rockets at a planet as possible in a short time. They are literally designed to "ignore" the colonial fleet and just nuke the planets as fast as possible evenw ith colonial defenses working. The cylons knew they could win a conventional war so they went witht he extermiantion strategy. The colonial navy is useless if all the colonies are eradicated. Even if the cylons only manage to destroy half the colonies compleatly it would cripple the colonial society and infrastructure so hard they wouldnt be able to recover in a century. The colonies weakness was the fact they were humans. The cylons could just rebuild themselfs and their navy in hidden space after an attack on the colonies, something the colonials couldnt do do to human limitations. Even if the cylons lost their entire fleet in the initial assault, if they wiped out 2/3 of humans in the colonies they would still win do to the collapse of colonial society. The navy cant function without the colonies to supply it. The fact the cylons managed to get the virus into the colonial military was not part of the longterm strategy but a short term opportunity they took that would make their job 100 times easier and couldnt be wasted. Its why when the cylons actually have to fight the colonial navy they perform rather badly, their base stars were not designed to do that.
@@noobster4779 While this could certainly apply to repair crews aswell, serving members would be quite easily identified. There was only a limited number of models, so you run the risk of someone from one ship recoginizing you, and then finding out that said person is also currently serving on another ship. Whereas civilian repair crews would probably move around and less questions asked if someone saw them on another ship.
According to the wiki, the call sign of Galactica's initial CAG (portrayed here) is "Scar". Supposedly how the Cylon got it's nickname, before it got it's scar. Not sure if this is true though.
The character's name was Anastasia Dualla. The actress is Kandyse McClure. This character committed suicide in the second episode after they found the first Earth. Maybe you mean someone else.
Specialized teletype papers were trimmed at the top and bottom of each page to ensure no un-authorized pages made it into the log books. The print-out was a formatted report with titles pre-printed on the paper, including red serial numbers for each page. A sheet of regular paper would stand out in a cut-corner log-book! Since the print-outs they are working with end up in log books...
My only issue with this scene is that none of the Viper pilots tried to eject. The ejection systems would have been analog in case there was a complete power failure, such as an EMP pulse or a micro meteor hitting the bird and disabling all of the electronics.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 true but you’d think training would kick in and they’d pull the ejection handle. Of course pilots ejecting would mean the Raptor would pick up survivors which means more characters to fleash out.
The nuclear radiation would have killed them anyway. I like to think that they realize those are nukes and so they accept a quick death rather then a long one .
It always throws me for a second watching the mini series seeing how clean Galactica as a whole but specifically CIC in comparison to season four stuff.. the work the set designers and the graphics team and everyone else put in to keep Galactica as she would be in a scenario like they find themselves in.. just incredible. I always hated shows just discarding everything that happened the episode before and we’re greeted with a fresh look as if nothing has any consequence (*cough*Voyager*cough*)
Thankfully they went “full-bore” on that model to give us a tiny bit of pleasure.. I neglected to mention in my comment that ST: Enterprise also did really well during the Season Three Xindi-Arc
During the miniseries the Galactica is close to decommissioning and there had been no combat in 40 years. By the ending part of season 4, the Galactica was in bad shape and was starting to come apart at the scenes. The synopsis for the last 4 episodes say the Galactica was deteriorating and might have to be abandoned. In which case they needed to find a habitable planet to settle on fast.
People rightfully praise Bear McCreary for his soundtracks, but I think Richard Gibbs really needs more credit for setting the audio motifs and style in the miniseries that McCreary could build on.
@@BoopSnoot It aged just fine. It’s people’s problem that they want to inject a modern phrase into an older work. Most do it for fun, but others really are so stupid that they can’t read into context.
5:20 "I think we have enough inertia to make it to caprica's ionosphere", that's not how space works, there's nothing to slow you down so no matter the inertia, having enough of it or not, you'll still make it to your destination anyway, that's a certainty. The only question is how much time it would take to get there. It's not as if your inertia will be eroded over time (which is insinuated by her saying "I think we have enough") like it would through friction inside an atmosphere.
well maybe the debris field surrounding the planet would have to be factored in as although it is invisible, there are very fine particles that are floating around trapped by the gravitational field/ other dust fields.
Another consideration is the relative position of where the planet is going to be when they get to its orbit (around the star). Wouldn't do them a lot of good if it's a million km away because they got there too fast or too slow.
You know what i just noticed? This is the only time anyone in the series uses ship to ship missiles except for capital ships. I mean those were WAY more effective than guns.
@@smartalec2001 Yeah Vipers are both supermanuverable and have pilots trained to intercept missiles themselves (they often seem to be used as mobile point defence for their fleet, too). Using missiles against them directly isn't likely to work too well.
Apollo EMP's one later in the miniseries and then there's the one nuke that hits Galactica not long after this. But yeah, raiders only end up using a few and I think most of them are in the miniseries.
That was my first thought too while watching the original show. I didn't think anyone else ever noticed that. Huge Kilrathi and WC player/fan. The Drathi IV was the closest resemblance to the Cylon Raider.
Given the importance of inertia while travelling through space, you'd think that the bigger ship with multiple thrusters would have better manoeuvrability than a missile with only one main thruster at best.
The ships have more engines but also more mass, so it is harder for the engines to accelerate the ship. The missiles are lighter and their engines have a much easier time moving, that's probably why
@@IcedCat559 Nah, Rui is right. Momentum is Mass * Velocity^2, so the speed is the more important part of momentum. The Missiles are incredibly fast so should be exponentially harder to change direction. Having said that the problem was that the missile had locked on to them, not that it was more maneuverable. It could have passed them several times and come around to hit them.
You're right. What if..next war..our front line fighters fall from the sky? Ya cannot fly an F-16 or an F-35 etc w/o a computer. & not like we could roll out a few squadrons of P-47 Thunderbolts and make due. ..as cool as that'd be :)
Well keep on computering everything and the First and last Chinese American War will be a lot like this. Right you've kinda got to be plugged in or impo t t a virus. In the not real distant future viruses will be transmissible thru RF or lasers.
I always wonder why the Cylons never used missiles against Colonial fighters again after this scene. If I recall correctly, all subsequent fighter-vs-fighter combat was done using guns.
Because the continued survival of Galactica's viper pilots would start to look ridiculous. I mean, uh.... because vipers were sufficiently maneuverable to dodge missiles. Kindly ignore the fact that a missile simply exploding near a raptor did terrible damage.
As much as i liked the visuals, I would've loved to have seen a battle between dozens of capital ships over one of the planets with no cyclon computer virus
Mister Angel I think it was definitely the last of the “original 12” battlestars. But not the last Jupiter class. I believe you can see another one during the attack on the Scorpion Fleet shipyards
@@misterangel8486 according to the tour guide we see and hear on Galactica - who ended up being a Cylon - Galactica was the "last of her kind in service" ...I always took that to mean the last of the Jupiters, but maybe it's the last of the original 12 Jupiters... The only other explanation I can think of is that the ship we see here was a decommissioned Jupiter awaiting tow to a scrapyard. Even it is is decommissioned, because that's a battlestar from the previous war, the Cylons would hit it just for the symbolism. But I admit that that is just a stab in the dark guess.
If you catch a piece of shrapnel in your leg after an explosion. you do not need the pilot to tell you we have been hit. I think my leg knows that already!
It isn't a movie trope. It's a way to help the cinematographers show the "non-speaking voice" story (facial cues, etc) on the screen. Filmmakers (like myself) hate it, and if there were another way, we'd do it.
@@Physics_Dude I dunno'. I'm not into cinematography like you are. So I'm speaking out of turn. But I'm thinking with all the advances in film making, there should be a way to get around this without putting lights on the insides of helmets.
@@Physics_Dude Yes, I do know it's lit up to show the actors' expressions. Thank you for clearing up that it's not a trope. I'm not a native speaker, I've always assumed this (whatever it's really called) falls into that category.
Makes sense, most likely the RCS were all active and compensating during flight, and didn't shut down simultaneously, It just takes one of them giving a little burp to go off balance.
@@RobDBlackwolf - Compensating for what? It's space. There is nothing to run into or bump you off course. You go in a straight line forever at the same speed.
idk if i am a fan of the attitude thrusters..so Space Shuttle ish. I imagine something better..gyroscopes for pitch, yaw, roll? But yeah..maybe a twitch of flight control upon shut down, tumble..not a change in heading.
@@gzuzsavz - Sure, in atmosphere. Not in space. All that would happen is that you'd continue exactly the same as you were. As they did correctly with Boomer.
@@gzuzsavz yeah, a slight twitch would have been acceptable if the shutdown was uneven or caused some servo on something to move, but what we got was them slowly spinnin and curving off course...after playing KSP I can't not see things like this now, to say nothing of what how scifi shows portray anything in orbit.
it's sad to see a Jupiter get destroyed as these were the most powerful battlestars ever built during their time. Even til the time of Mercuries, Jupiters still possessed heavier armor topped with additional spaced armor plating to negate the damage of both chemical and kinetic rounds compared to the Mercuries which relied on speed and advanced computer systems to protect itself. Galactica was also lucky enough that she had a pretty outstanding crew. Jupiters computer systems aren't networked like that of a mercury. This is to prevent hacking and negate the effects of electronic warfare systems from the enemy which was shown when galactica was hacked. It took longer for the cyclons to disable the Jupiter compared to the more advanced vessels. Plus the weapon emplacements of Jupiters alone were well thought out unlike the Mercuries who were all focused on the X-axis, so if they needed to engage an enemy on top they had to roll the ship while Jupiters could stay in the same position without exposing its critical areas. I have a theory that whichever Jupiter that was, the cylons may have decided to just overrun it with missiles rather than to wait for it to be disabled . After all, their fighters were pretty useless since they have also been hacked. But it was nice that, that jupiter was given justice thru Galactica showing what Jupiter's were really capable off. I can't even imagine these things full equipped with armor plating and weaponry
I'm pretty sure the other Jupiters which were still hanging around had been networked, it's specifically mentioned in the miniseries that Adama has had to resist getting a networked computer installed on the Galactica, so it's clearly possible. As a result, I don't think that Jupiter was able to have much of a last stand, and instead went down as easy as any other Battlestar.
@@junker-f3m actually the story goes that Galactica was already due for retirement and Adama was being retired with her as punishment for the Valkyrie incident. For those who don’t know the Valkyrie was a pocket battlestar that was Adams’s original command. He was assigned to take a recon fighter called the Stealthstar on a mission to penetrate the redline and see what the cylons were up to. As bulldog flew past the redline he was attacked and critically damaged by something. Which immediately jumped off dradis. With the Stealth recon ship damaged a pair of cylon raiders were coming to investigate and Adama made a call. He fired a missile at the Stealth Star to destroy it and eliminate any evidence of a colonial incursion. Bulldog chose to eject and was captured by the Cylons and held prisoner. The Colonial fleet chose to retire Bill Adama in the wake of the fallout from the destruction of the recon ship. He was sent to take command of Galactica as a punishment of sorts. What it looks like is that the Colonials were trying to start things with the cylons again
Tbf, the Colonial fleet's security model is clearly terrible. One comprised subsystem shouldn't be able to take down the whole Viper. Weaken it, certainly. But each subsystem should be able to operate with a corrupted other subsystem.
lol! on one the special features on the earlier seasons DVDs, i think it was Ron, mentions having challenged the set designers to come up with some ways of making props 'feel typical, but look different'. So someone decided to lop the corners off all the paper on set. Ronald Moore thought it was genius, and exactly the type of subtle distinctions he was asking for, so they filmed with it. And then after the series got picked up, they realized they'd have to do that to everything for the rest of the series. So there was a set dresser, whose official job duties was to cut the corners off of every piece of paper that could possibly make camera. For all 5 years of filming.
Talk about bad design choices. You'd really think ejection seats would be independent systems entirely to, ya know, keep working in the event that everything got shot up to hell. But hey, then they'd be left floating there to die when no rescue came (dark) or we'd need another 60 seconds of them coming around to fire missiles at the pilots drifting in space and... also dark... now that I think about it, the least dark way to kill them is probably this way. Prolonging their death sequence wouldn't have added a lot but would have been plenty uncomfortable.
This is what worries me will happen to our F-35s. They're all networked - aside from the ones Israel purchased. Israel said no thanks to that 'ability'. The networking 'feature' lets all F-35s upload new signatures they've found into a database, as well as get their software updates. I just wonder how secure it all is.
I have actually written a movie script entitled, "The Untold Story" which begins where the original TV show staring Lorne Green left off. In my story the Galactica leaves earth and goes into deep space to evade the Cylons and lure them away from earth. But there is NO One who I can even contact about this . All the rights are owned by some movie studio and I can't reach anyone at all. I'd love to see this made into a movie or even a Tv show again. I loved the show. Missed the mini series. Watched the new Battlestar Galactica but didn't like all the violence - bloody scenes every episode. i even wrote a sequel to this story about how Captain Apollo and Cornell Tye meet the beings from the White Lights and are made Ambassadors of the Universe and are told some day they will return to Earth
Did anyone else notice that right before that last missile exploded close to the Raptor, Boomer slid in her seat to the right, as if she was making herself a smaller target for the debris from the missile explosion.
wait... in this universe, they said the old Cylon ships look like wings but those are 40 years old. ... how many years passed between the original and the reboot? cause if it's 40 years, that's just amazing how they integrated even the real-world time between versions into this.
@@DaveMiller2 Yes; however, I think he did touch on something relevant, though the specific "40 year" point is off. In-universe, the first Cylon War was a major event a few decades in the past, something like how we view WWII. In our world, the first version of the show was a hit (kind of) a couple decades ago. So when they show old-gen Cylons and Cylon Raiders in their Cylon War museum, or when we see the "guardian" Cylons saying "By your command", it's a conscious nod to real-world nostalgia for the original show.
Pegasus survived because the computer system was down to let them install Baltar's software. It was blind luck. Without the main computers, Pegasus still needs to have control of its systems for prosaic reasons - for instance, suppose there was a problem with part of the dock and they had to move the ship to another area. This is a battleship, with a crew of thousands. It has more need and more space for redundancies than a Viper. I am not sure it would be practical to make a Viper work with fully manual, non-computerized controls due to space limitations, but in any case, they are not made that way. If the computer system goes down, you are going to have a bad day, By the way, this is also true of the older Vipers immune to the Cylon virus; the reason they are immune is software, not hardware. They were parked in a museum, and nobody bothered to load Baltar's new software into them. My only problem with this scene is that ejection seats should still work with the computer down. It probably wouldn't have saved them since there would be nobody to pick them up before their suits ran out of air, but it would certainly have been worth trying in their situation.
All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again. Boelcke rules of fighter tactics - #1 Come at your opponent with the sun behind you. Cylons are well read.
Now, after having watched it a couple of time and knowing how the serie progresses, you can deduct that Boomer is a Cylon by the fact that the raptor should've been affected as well since they didn't know about the ECM jamming of the Cylon so they couldn't defend against it. But with Boomer and Gallen being Cylons this could explain how the Raptor isn't affected and also how easy they can bypass the blockade as if the cylons didn't have the ability to track a new craft that just poped out of hyperspace while they knew how to track and ambush the vipers a moment ago in the vastness of space...
@@Madferreiro Okay, nice, just assumed it was the same. Had a quick look just before my response and here in Sweden its from the first regular episode.
It's not the energy that's transfering, it the matter that has been energized that transfers. And the state of that matter, based on the level of energy it has. Our sun frequently does this to us in the form of Solar Flares. Where it ejects massive outburst of plasmified matter that interrupts EM communications on Earth.
I have one question about battle star galactica where do they get their tobacco products from? really its a question that needs to be asked, as they are flying for years in space and they are smoking, the amount of tobacco products needed to last this long of time, would equal maybe 2 or more ships being fully stocked where the whole ship is just dedicated to stocking tobacco products
The fact I look at a dradis readout in this series and it tells me everything I need to know to draw the scene out in my head. That was the real icing that made the space combat into good film of the whole series
Its as real as it gets. In space, you really can't see anything without somesort of scanner or device.
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Look up MAcross DYRL they use a lot of similar shots
"Best way to avoid attracting attention. No power signature, going in a straight line. Unless somebody actually gets close enough to see us, we'll look like a chunk of debris on the sensors. I think we have enough innertia to make it to Caprica's atmosphere, then we power up and find a place to land"
It's little things like this that makes this show just that much more enjoyable.
And this was a miniseries. No firm confirmation the series would be picked up.
And then, you ended with deus ex Baltar...
"ionosphere"
Nice! Nice thinking there!
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This is an accurate representation of what happens to my units anytime I try to play any Real-Time Strategy game online.
Relatable 💀
"the Cylons are being microed! FLEE!!!"
This scene is so impactfull because in retrospect we know how much these experienced pilots (and their state of the art vipers) would have helped in the years after. The (presumably) créme de la créme of galactica's pilot corps wiped out in 5 seconds.
This scene was so haunting...they died so helplessly...
A microcosm for the entire Second Cylon War
The slaughter of the non-FTL capable civilian ships was an even bigger guy punch.
Generous to call it a 'war'
@@OmegaTrooper By the end if the series it will have become a true war
The scoring is sick AF, especially when the cylon emerged from the star.
It plays over and over at the DVD menu
Composed by Richard Gibbs .
@@tech83studio38 I think Gibbs was a student of Phillip Glass. Just my opinion.
Actually, attacking from the direction of the sun blinds the enemy to your approach. It gave the Raider far more time to sneak in close. Good tactic in warfare.
This series always had a good score, very non-typical for SciFi-series.
...all that carnage..
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..seems the Cylon's used Dominion machines to get Baltar where he was.
Looks like they upgraded later, don’t think Cylons were able to do this later in the series
As an old timer for the original Battlestar Galactica, It took me a while to warm up to this series but when I put my prejudices aside I really enjoyed the series. It was very well made and the stories kept you glued. Really awesome series just like the original with incredible fight scenes with that pounding drum made it tense.
I treat the new series as a prequel to the original. My theory is the new series happened first. Unknown to them, humanity on all twelve Colonies survived, repopulated, and eventually forgot all about the Cylons. Meanwhile, humans on Earth forgot all about the Colonies. The surviving Cylons eventually fell in with a lizard race that took the name Cylons for themselves and ultimately controlled the Cylons. Then the Cylons attacked the Hasari and "all of this has happened before and will happen again."
@@roberthoward3322 this is the way....
Well, I guess I am an "old timer for the original Battlestar Galactica", in that I watched it live on TV when I was about eight years old. I liked it a lot, and looked forward to it.
Then I grew up, and in 2004 when I was in my 30s, the new series came out. I had a friend trying to convince me to watch it, but I couldn't get over the name. To me, it was a cornball, cheesy show, more or less on par with naming a show Chuck E. Cheese's. Battlestar Galactica, to me, was a show with a kid and a robot dog ... a show where a planet had a village terrorized by a damaged Cylon that thought he was the sheriff ... goofy, silly, kid-level stuff. Go back and watch the original as an adult and you'll see what I mean. The pilot is pretty good, but after that, it goes south very quickly, and that is not even getting into the sequel where they are mostly on earth and literally include educational statements because they know kids are watching.
A few years later, circa 2010, I finally watched it, and wow ... what a great show. I could go on about what makes it great, but you either get it or you don't. Hint, it's not really special effects or space battles.
It is known....@@homoerectus6953
This was such a good series. They really made an effort to make this as realistic and plausible as possible.
Realistic yes but plausible? How so? As discussed in multiple forums, there are no computer systems in modern military equipment that all run on the same software. Its a pretty obvious fail to have something so vulnerable, especially when your main enemies are A.I., LMAO. This scenario plays into some people's long-time fears about automation replacing humans, and modernization, since many people become resistant to learning new technologies in their 30s. This type of fear is so old and so prominent in older generations that there are multiple Twilight Zone episodes that touch upon this. For a TV miniseries where the writers want to move the plot along to get from point A to point B, and hopefully get picked up by a Network, this is fine. But in terms of actual plausibility? Nope, I think not. Do you know how stupid you have to be to tie in your primary systems into Wi-Fi? LOL If the Colonials were that dumb, there is no way the Galactica would have survived. Don't get me wrong BSG is one of my fav shows of all time, but I hope that in the future any reboots do a better job at plausibility. Sorry for the rant, but if you are talking about military jargon, firearms, and other tech and cultural norms that we share, then yes I agree. The writers did well to parody many things from our reality in order to teach us important lessons, and really get people invested, even those who normally don't watch sci-fi because they're put off by aliens and nonsensical sci-fi mumbo jumbo talk. To clarify I am not one those people. I love all of the Star franchises (i.e. Trek, Wars, Gate, etc.)
The first 2.5 seasons were really good. After that.... ehhhhhhh
@@Beau74 I agree, the first half of the series was more enjoyable for me, Pegasus was my highlight. When it comes to their writing, I really enjoyed when the supernatural elements were there but not apparent. For example, did that pilot survive due to luck or a guiding hand? I like that because there are atheists and theists in my family, and though we respect each other's views, we are happy to work together towards common goals. At the end of the day, we are good people who enjoy helping others because it is the right thing to do. BSG had a similar theme going on and I loved that. But in the second half of the series, especially when Kara came back to life, that was 100% physical evidence of a supernatural force at work, which I think took away from the series' supernatural mystery. I never wanted an explanation or actual evidence. I wanted the "angels", prophecies, and everything else to be left up to debate. This way by series end you can debate forever about their survival being human will, fate, or some mix of the two. But as it stands, the Colonials seem less in control of their lives, with the majority of the events feeling predetermined. :(
Except for the ending, of course,..
@@Ajax1063 I had an extreme problem with some of the aspects of the show you just praised. While I didn't necessarily need EVERY mystery to be completely explained, it seemed clear to me that there were major plot points that they NEVER intended to explain. And if they never intended to explain them- would it not be safe to assume that there was no internal logic to those plot points in the first place? This Abrams-style black smoke storytelling is something that I detest beyond all measure.
And right after the Cylons started jamming their computers, my PC hit a run/stop fault and blue-screened! Holy shit, that was bizarre!!
All this has happened before, and all this will happen again
they dint exactly jammed they just shut off all the power, using a virus
Frak. Shut it down before the cylon virus penetrates further into your PC.
You have been given a sign by the Cylon God, prepare for the exodus, a caravan will be lead through the heavens. You will breed with machines to form the next generation of Humanity.
I'd recommend bringing some snacks, and anything that might help tell people who we were. I'd recommend youtube clips, music from every genre minus country, movies from the last 70 years, and some memes.
@@marsar1775 So say we all.
"OK, Boomer!"
That's what brought me here
:36 yup
Alright, snowflake.
@@Danafondo 0:36
Yep his name is Boomer lol
i will never look at my toaster the same way again
Really makes you not want to stick a fork down in it again, doesn't it?
Frakkin Toaster.
I tossed mine out the airlock. It came back 40 years later. Now we are at war
"A toaster is just a death ray with a smaller power supply!"
I remember seeing these Cylon Raider for the first I am still in awe great design.
I have got to watch this show again. This clip reminds me how great it was. Compulsive viewing. Off to buy the box set now....
It's on weeknights at Comet TV now, and they're now mid season 3 - but I don't think they provisioned their servers well enough. Lots of dropped frames most of the time. Getting a box set is better.
Edit: The dropped frames issue might have been because I was using Firefox to watch the show that night. Playback is a lot smoother on Chromium and Falkon browsers.
check prices and get it real cheap I got it for 90 buck
Drove 75 miles, and back, to buy box set at 60 bucks. Brand new Blu-Ray. Best deal ever.
Seeing that dead Jupiter class that got itself cut in two, oof.
@BMT Most likely the case, they did skimp out on CGI at times.
@BMT Galactica is the last of the original twelve Jupiter classes which represented a colony.
Nothing's to say that the Jupiter that was gutted wasn't one constructed in the years after the armistice and approaching the end of her service life.
Then again, that's just me trying to explain away how they didn't yet have any other battlestar models in the miniseries because of budgetary reasons.
BMT I’m not sure, I’ve heard there were 3 left but could be weong
@@GHawkinsOneSix SADOC
@@MRB2580 That'll be Major Hawkins to you in that case.
When Helo seals off the hull breach with that vaccu-magnetic patch, it's a callback to the first episode of Lost in Space (1965) when MAJ West had to do the same thing after the robot went berserk.
"Jolly,can you read me..?"
Wow they killed an original series character off early :(
Don't forget how little we saw of Boxy.
Hahahaha I totally forgot about that dog lol fighting cylons with tech they designed in secret pricless
@@dixievfd55 horry shett!
Aahahahaaa...dang.
But yeah..tragic OG deletion, there.
We don't even know if Jolly got a speaking line. There was some radio chatter between Viper pilots, but none of them was identified as Jolly, and he never got any screen time.
@@dixievfd55 Thank god for that. Boxey and his stupid robot Daggit were the Jar Jar Binks of the original BSG. Boxey was also the son of the Colonial officer killed when the Cylons blew up the space station at the beginning of the min-series. You can see his photo on the desk.
'ok boomer' sounds different now
Grace park!! Beautiful
Dem cylons wasting a lot of nukes over the oceans of Caprica.
Creating tsunamis
Ocean borne cities would be a thing in the Colonies, wouldn't they?
@@brandonthesteele I doubt it, I mean if we look at Caprica that was set merely 60 years earlier. Apart from having a space faring society they were still pretty low tech, comparable to our 70's.
Fook u dolphineeeee and valeeeee!!!!
@Casanova Frankenstein Makes perfect sense. Look at how the colonies were in Caprica...They were 60's or 70's style aesthetics with Futuristic technology in certain aspects.
The colonies in the reimagined show apart from Caprica were pretty backwater, But yet had access to space faring technology.
The show was so good when we thought the Cylons had a plan until we realized the writers didn't know what that plan was beyond blowing stuff up and following the main cast for 4 seasons
And then it still ended up being really good.
@@Arkalius80 a few too many "hidden cylons". If they were going to do that, they should have gone for comedy and made everyone a hidden cylon
Well I mean when the closest thing the Cylons have to a leader is doing this because of an existential temper tantrum...
It fell apart at the end because of the writers strike of 2008 where we had to wait an extra year for the final season to be written by replacement writers. At least the ending we got wasn't a total loss.
Amen. Too many here defend their own admission they made it up as they went. It was good, but it could have been so much better
I love the little thruster effects on these ships. Just like how a real spacecraft maneuvers in space. Shame we didn’t this on the bigger ships like Galactica
Jupiter Battkestars used large gyroscopes for rotation
Small little touches like that give it some persistence in the scifi genre. Despite the things it gets really wrong.
The drums in this scene create such a powerful sense of dread. The part at 2:17 is my favourite.
5:31 I still wonder what the hell happened to that battlestar on the left. Doesn't look like it cracked in half naturally from hull damage, the hangar pods wouldn't have snapped in the same direction like that, still right where they were before it split. Looks like something rammed straight through it and made a clean cut down the middle, and now it's just floating there, slowly drifting apart.
Maybe some cylon saboteurs planted bombs? Wouldnt surprise me if they disguised themself as repair crew to get into places where few would look.
I think the middle got heavily damaged and a crack opened up, then another large bomb dropped onto the head (where a big crater is as well) and the impact made the head bow down, which then seperated the ship along the crack completely.
By the design that seem like a Jupiter (aka same class as Galactica) which i think that this is most likely what happened
As the ship go to engage it got disabled and have a raider squardon do a bombing run on it with nuke which crack the hull before the ammunition inside the middle cook off and pull the ship apart
@@Untun Why repair crew. They could easily just hide as ship crew. saul was serving on galactica for decades and he was only send to the colonies after the first cylon war. The cylons had infiltrated all parts of colonial society apart from amybe the highest leadership.
They designed their entire military based on espionage they did on the colonies. Their basestars arent designed to fight battlestars, they are designed to deploy as many fighters/bombers as possible immediatly and throw as many rockets at a planet as possible in a short time. They are literally designed to "ignore" the colonial fleet and just nuke the planets as fast as possible evenw ith colonial defenses working. The cylons knew they could win a conventional war so they went witht he extermiantion strategy. The colonial navy is useless if all the colonies are eradicated. Even if the cylons only manage to destroy half the colonies compleatly it would cripple the colonial society and infrastructure so hard they wouldnt be able to recover in a century. The colonies weakness was the fact they were humans. The cylons could just rebuild themselfs and their navy in hidden space after an attack on the colonies, something the colonials couldnt do do to human limitations. Even if the cylons lost their entire fleet in the initial assault, if they wiped out 2/3 of humans in the colonies they would still win do to the collapse of colonial society. The navy cant function without the colonies to supply it.
The fact the cylons managed to get the virus into the colonial military was not part of the longterm strategy but a short term opportunity they took that would make their job 100 times easier and couldnt be wasted. Its why when the cylons actually have to fight the colonial navy they perform rather badly, their base stars were not designed to do that.
@@noobster4779 While this could certainly apply to repair crews aswell, serving members would be quite easily identified. There was only a limited number of models, so you run the risk of someone from one ship recoginizing you, and then finding out that said person is also currently serving on another ship. Whereas civilian repair crews would probably move around and less questions asked if someone saw them on another ship.
According to the wiki, the call sign of Galactica's initial CAG (portrayed here) is "Scar". Supposedly how the Cylon got it's nickname, before it got it's scar. Not sure if this is true though.
If you look at the canopy rail, it's actually "Ripper."
@@VigilanteAgumon dipper
And to this day I still don't know which character cuts off the edges of the paper printouts.
People working on the show hated it, they had to cut every paper on the screen :D
The character's name was Anastasia Dualla. The actress is Kandyse McClure. This character committed suicide in the second episode after they found the first Earth. Maybe you mean someone else.
That job probably fell to Lt Gaeta, and then he got so pissed at having to do it that he mutinied.
Specialized teletype papers were trimmed at the top and bottom of each page to ensure no un-authorized pages made it into the log books.
The print-out was a formatted report with titles pre-printed on the paper, including red serial numbers for each page.
A sheet of regular paper would stand out in a cut-corner log-book!
Since the print-outs they are working with end up in log books...
I've got a couple prop books that were in Adama's quarters. Non-spine side corners cut off. Pretty neat.
The missiles launched by the Cylon raiders sound absolutely pitiless.
This is the best reason I have heard to stay off of Facebook and Twitter.
My only issue with this scene is that none of the Viper pilots tried to eject.
The ejection systems would have been analog in case there was a complete power failure, such as an EMP pulse or a micro meteor hitting the bird and disabling all of the electronics.
Not like they would have gotten any help.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 true but you’d think training would kick in and they’d pull the ejection handle.
Of course pilots ejecting would mean the Raptor would pick up survivors which means more characters to fleash out.
The nuclear radiation would have killed them anyway. I like to think that they realize those are nukes and so they accept a quick death rather then a long one .
It always throws me for a second watching the mini series seeing how clean Galactica as a whole but specifically CIC in comparison to season four stuff.. the work the set designers and the graphics team and everyone else put in to keep Galactica as she would be in a scenario like they find themselves in.. just incredible. I always hated shows just discarding everything that happened the episode before and we’re greeted with a fresh look as if nothing has any consequence (*cough*Voyager*cough*)
only exception was "Year of Hell" but that was a only a two part haha.
Thankfully they went “full-bore” on that model to give us a tiny bit of pleasure.. I neglected to mention in my comment that ST: Enterprise also did really well during the Season Three Xindi-Arc
@@808Goose ha, yess.
During the miniseries the Galactica is close to decommissioning and there had been no combat in 40 years. By the ending part of season 4, the Galactica was in bad shape and was starting to come apart at the scenes. The synopsis for the last 4 episodes say the Galactica was deteriorating and might have to be abandoned. In which case they needed to find a habitable planet to settle on fast.
@@christopher-pfeiferyear of hell was supposed to be a full season
1:27 omg this shot is an absolute masterpiece. It's like two arms reaching out at the fourth wall from the darkness. So good.
People rightfully praise Bear McCreary for his soundtracks, but I think Richard Gibbs really needs more credit for setting the audio motifs and style in the miniseries that McCreary could build on.
Some aspects of the writing didn't age well though. "OK Boomer" meant something different back then.
@@BoopSnoot It aged just fine. It’s people’s problem that they want to inject a modern phrase into an older work. Most do it for fun, but others really are so stupid that they can’t read into context.
@@bsgfan1 it was a joke, donut puncher.
Sometimes, I think Gibbs was a huge fan of Phillip Glass.
5:20 "I think we have enough inertia to make it to caprica's ionosphere", that's not how space works, there's nothing to slow you down so no matter the inertia, having enough of it or not, you'll still make it to your destination anyway, that's a certainty. The only question is how much time it would take to get there. It's not as if your inertia will be eroded over time (which is insinuated by her saying "I think we have enough") like it would through friction inside an atmosphere.
well maybe the debris field surrounding the planet would have to be factored in as although it is invisible, there are very fine particles that are floating around trapped by the gravitational field/ other dust fields.
Always assumed she meant, "Have enough inertia to make it there (before our oxygen runs out)."
@@markkreitler519 that makes more sense
solar wind will affect the enertia
Another consideration is the relative position of where the planet is going to be when they get to its orbit (around the star). Wouldn't do them a lot of good if it's a million km away because they got there too fast or too slow.
0:35 he says 'ok boomer'!
Everything has happened before and everything will happen again.
In the far off future, Dot Matrix printers will still be viable.
admtech69 erm far off past
@@megaporch583 Both. This has happened before, and it will happen again.
@@noone-igloo so say the sacred scrolls
or the far far far past of humanity
It is in our past and the Galactica was using old tech, as it was a museum piece.
The old tech saved it from the cyber attack initiated by the Cylons.
Sadly wish they actually had more of this stuff early first season.
Love the printer at the start. Reminds me of the old Bat Computer that would print out answers.
You know what i just noticed? This is the only time anyone in the series uses ship to ship missiles except for capital ships. I mean those were WAY more effective than guns.
Effective against powerless Vipers. It's possible that, when operating normally, missiles are too slow to catch or outmanoeuvre a viper
A Cylon raider fires a missile at a damaged Apollo in the Ragnar Anchorage dogfight later in the pilot episode. Starbuck shoots it out of the air.
@@smartalec2001 Yeah Vipers are both supermanuverable and have pilots trained to intercept missiles themselves (they often seem to be used as mobile point defence for their fleet, too). Using missiles against them directly isn't likely to work too well.
Apollo EMP's one later in the miniseries and then there's the one nuke that hits Galactica not long after this. But yeah, raiders only end up using a few and I think most of them are in the miniseries.
Any one notice these cylon ships look very much like the old kilrathi ships from the game : Privateer. ?
That was my first thought too while watching the original show. I didn't think anyone else ever noticed that. Huge Kilrathi and WC player/fan. The Drathi IV was the closest resemblance to the Cylon Raider.
...when the drums start, you know it's gonna get tense.
Given the importance of inertia while travelling through space, you'd think that the bigger ship with multiple thrusters would have better manoeuvrability than a missile with only one main thruster at best.
The ships have more engines but also more mass, so it is harder for the engines to accelerate the ship. The missiles are lighter and their engines have a much easier time moving, that's probably why
@@IcedCat559 Nah, Rui is right. Momentum is Mass * Velocity^2, so the speed is the more important part of momentum. The Missiles are incredibly fast so should be exponentially harder to change direction. Having said that the problem was that the missile had locked on to them, not that it was more maneuverable. It could have passed them several times and come around to hit them.
@@Neumonics429 I didn't know that, thanks though :)
1:13 - RIP John Mann.
Loved this show it was like star wars for grown ups.Andor has the same feel!
Gods this scene always gives me chills and not for good reasons
You're right.
What if..next war..our front line fighters fall from the sky?
Ya cannot fly an F-16 or an F-35 etc w/o a computer.
& not like we could roll out a few squadrons of P-47 Thunderbolts and make due.
..as cool as that'd be :)
Yup.. fighter pilot's worst nightmare, losing control just before the merge.
Well keep on computering everything and the First and last Chinese American War will be a lot like this.
Right you've kinda got to be plugged in or impo t t a virus. In the not real distant future viruses will be transmissible thru RF or lasers.
Since Peacock no longer carries the series I am glad I bought so I can watch it whenever I want to.😊
The batwing looks great!
Wonder if the driod Armey wants there fighters back
I always wonder why the Cylons never used missiles against Colonial fighters again after this scene. If I recall correctly, all subsequent fighter-vs-fighter combat was done using guns.
Because the continued survival of Galactica's viper pilots would start to look ridiculous. I mean, uh.... because vipers were sufficiently maneuverable to dodge missiles. Kindly ignore the fact that a missile simply exploding near a raptor did terrible damage.
They shot missiles at bigger ships but not vipers
too agile to kill with missile
I always wondered why old school guns and not Lasers
@@johniii8147 Because energy beam weapons are not NEARLY as practical / lethal as most sci-fi shows would have you believe.
ah man that's it im gunna watch this awesome show again from start to finish again so good
Best TV series of all time, So say we all!
God, could you imagine sitting in a dead stick, watching missiles scream towards you and your squadron, unable to do anything, not even eject?
I've always found the dissonance between the Raider's horrific slaughtering versus the soft, almost serene tone their engines make to be unnerving.
As much as i liked the visuals, I would've loved to have seen a battle between dozens of capital ships over one of the planets with no cyclon computer virus
anyone know what song plays during this from the OST? or was it just a song made specifically for this scene?
Great show!
I wish we could hear the story of the remaining crew stuck inside that floating jupiter class Battlestar..
Yeah, I also wondered about that battlestar. Wasn't Galactica supposed to be the only one left of its class?
Mister Angel I think it was definitely the last of the “original 12” battlestars. But not the last Jupiter class. I believe you can see another one during the attack on the Scorpion Fleet shipyards
@@misterangel8486 according to the tour guide we see and hear on Galactica - who ended up being a Cylon - Galactica was the "last of her kind in service" ...I always took that to mean the last of the Jupiters, but maybe it's the last of the original 12 Jupiters...
The only other explanation I can think of is that the ship we see here was a decommissioned Jupiter awaiting tow to a scrapyard. Even it is is decommissioned, because that's a battlestar from the previous war, the Cylons would hit it just for the symbolism. But I admit that that is just a stab in the dark guess.
ok... "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!" followed by silence.
@@orionred2489 it's early for me, and this has already won UA-cam comments for the day
Of course that boomer was familiar with the "Solo debris manouver"... 😜
The only time in the series that Helo made a sarcastic remark, he was straight as an arrow for the rest of it.
Hardly
If you catch a piece of shrapnel in your leg after an explosion. you do not need the pilot to tell you we have been hit. I think my leg knows that already!
This is what happens when you get your network equipment from your enemies.
Movie trope: pilots wearing helmets that light up on the inside.
Anybody ever drove at night with the cabin lights on? How did that feel?
It isn't a movie trope. It's a way to help the cinematographers show the "non-speaking voice" story (facial cues, etc) on the screen. Filmmakers (like myself) hate it, and if there were another way, we'd do it.
@@Physics_Dude I dunno'. I'm not into cinematography like you are. So I'm speaking out of turn. But I'm thinking with all the advances in film making, there should be a way to get around this without putting lights on the insides of helmets.
That's funny. I never thought of that. :)
@J F great point. Thanks.
@@Physics_Dude Yes, I do know it's lit up to show the actors' expressions. Thank you for clearing up that it's not a trope. I'm not a native speaker, I've always assumed this (whatever it's really called) falls into that category.
Best Science fiction show ever. Ever.
It's a good thing they are wearing their seat belts.
Still gives me the chills.
Grace Park and Kandyse McLure. I'd like to buy the casting director a beer.
man i love this show
It's funny how they all start drifting off course as soon as they lose power. It's space. Are they getting air turbulance? Love the show though. Fun.
Makes sense, most likely the RCS were all active and compensating during flight, and didn't shut down simultaneously, It just takes one of them giving a little burp to go off balance.
@@RobDBlackwolf - Compensating for what? It's space. There is nothing to run into or bump you off course. You go in a straight line forever at the same speed.
idk if i am a fan of the attitude thrusters..so Space Shuttle ish.
I imagine something better..gyroscopes for pitch, yaw, roll?
But yeah..maybe a twitch of flight control upon shut down, tumble..not a change in heading.
@@gzuzsavz - Sure, in atmosphere. Not in space. All that would happen is that you'd continue exactly the same as you were. As they did correctly with Boomer.
@@gzuzsavz yeah, a slight twitch would have been acceptable if the shutdown was uneven or caused some servo on something to move, but what we got was them slowly spinnin and curving off course...after playing KSP I can't not see things like this now, to say nothing of what how scifi shows portray anything in orbit.
it's sad to see a Jupiter get destroyed as these were the most powerful battlestars ever built during their time. Even til the time of Mercuries, Jupiters still possessed heavier armor topped with additional spaced armor plating to negate the damage of both chemical and kinetic rounds compared to the Mercuries which relied on speed and advanced computer systems to protect itself. Galactica was also lucky enough that she had a pretty outstanding crew. Jupiters computer systems aren't networked like that of a mercury. This is to prevent hacking and negate the effects of electronic warfare systems from the enemy which was shown when galactica was hacked. It took longer for the cyclons to disable the Jupiter compared to the more advanced vessels. Plus the weapon emplacements of Jupiters alone were well thought out unlike the Mercuries who were all focused on the X-axis, so if they needed to engage an enemy on top they had to roll the ship while Jupiters could stay in the same position without exposing its critical areas.
I have a theory that whichever Jupiter that was, the cylons may have decided to just overrun it with missiles rather than to wait for it to be disabled . After all, their fighters were pretty useless since they have also been hacked. But it was nice that, that jupiter was given justice thru Galactica showing what Jupiter's were really capable off. I can't even imagine these things full equipped with armor plating and weaponry
I'm pretty sure the other Jupiters which were still hanging around had been networked, it's specifically mentioned in the miniseries that Adama has had to resist getting a networked computer installed on the Galactica, so it's clearly possible. As a result, I don't think that Jupiter was able to have much of a last stand, and instead went down as easy as any other Battlestar.
@@junker-f3m actually the story goes that Galactica was already due for retirement and Adama was being retired with her as punishment for the Valkyrie incident. For those who don’t know the Valkyrie was a pocket battlestar that was Adams’s original command. He was assigned to take a recon fighter called the Stealthstar on a mission to penetrate the redline and see what the cylons were up to. As bulldog flew past the redline he was attacked and critically damaged by something. Which immediately jumped off dradis. With the Stealth recon ship damaged a pair of cylon raiders were coming to investigate and Adama made a call. He fired a missile at the Stealth Star to destroy it and eliminate any evidence of a colonial incursion. Bulldog chose to eject and was captured by the Cylons and held prisoner. The Colonial fleet chose to retire Bill Adama in the wake of the fallout from the destruction of the recon ship. He was sent to take command of Galactica as a punishment of sorts. What it looks like is that the Colonials were trying to start things with the cylons again
@@matthewcaughey8898 the synopsis of the episode "Hero" has very little to do with what I said my guy
@@junker-f3m sometimes surviving is it’s own heroism
The acting in this scene is utterly diabolical. lol
Tbf, the Colonial fleet's security model is clearly terrible. One comprised subsystem shouldn't be able to take down the whole Viper. Weaken it, certainly. But each subsystem should be able to operate with a corrupted other subsystem.
That wasn't their first encounter. Boomer Is a Fracking Cylon! 🤣🤣🤣
And the Exo, chief, etc..
I love how Colonial paper has arbitrary 45 degree angles.
Something about how they had been cutting corners in production lol
lol! on one the special features on the earlier seasons DVDs, i think it was Ron, mentions having challenged the set designers to come up with some ways of making props 'feel typical, but look different'. So someone decided to lop the corners off all the paper on set. Ronald Moore thought it was genius, and exactly the type of subtle distinctions he was asking for, so they filmed with it. And then after the series got picked up, they realized they'd have to do that to everything for the rest of the series. So there was a set dresser, whose official job duties was to cut the corners off of every piece of paper that could possibly make camera. For all 5 years of filming.
Hard scene to watch with even your Ejection Seat not working.
Talk about bad design choices. You'd really think ejection seats would be independent systems entirely to, ya know, keep working in the event that everything got shot up to hell. But hey, then they'd be left floating there to die when no rescue came (dark) or we'd need another 60 seconds of them coming around to fire missiles at the pilots drifting in space and... also dark... now that I think about it, the least dark way to kill them is probably this way. Prolonging their death sequence wouldn't have added a lot but would have been plenty uncomfortable.
When are we gonna see a series in this format based on Battlestar Galactica Deadlock!
And this is why i am a proponent of analog technology.
It’s almost like some sort of EMP attack on their computer system knocking it out.
Tractor paper? Dot matrix printers? Now that's high tech!
It was 100.000 years ago
This is what worries me will happen to our F-35s. They're all networked - aside from the ones Israel purchased. Israel said no thanks to that 'ability'.
The networking 'feature' lets all F-35s upload new signatures they've found into a database, as well as get their software updates. I just wonder how secure it all is.
Does anyone know what the soundtrack that is used here called?
I miss this show, please make more new TV series! i want 3 episodes a week all year round for 10 years!
I have actually written a movie script entitled, "The Untold Story" which begins where the original TV show staring Lorne Green left off. In my story the Galactica leaves earth and goes into deep space to evade the Cylons and lure them away from earth. But there is NO One who I can even contact about this . All the rights are owned by some movie studio and I can't reach anyone at all. I'd love to see this made into a movie or even a Tv show again. I loved the show. Missed the mini series. Watched the new Battlestar Galactica but didn't like all the violence - bloody scenes every episode. i even wrote a sequel to this story about how Captain Apollo and Cornell Tye meet the beings from the White Lights and are made Ambassadors of the Universe and are told some day they will return to Earth
Did anyone else notice that right before that last missile exploded close to the Raptor, Boomer slid in her seat to the right, as if she was making herself a smaller target for the debris from the missile explosion.
Nope, not until you said it. They had a ton of tiny details like this all throughout the series.
Yep... getting that chair back between her and the missile, but knowing it wouldn't make any difference if that missile got through.
But wouldn't any pilot, including the regular humans, do the same if preparing for a possible impact?
I do that when I'm playing computer games, it's a very natural human reaction.
Helps when ur a Cylon
Why are the human crafts tumbling after they lost power? Should they not just keep going in formation?
Indeed, but it gives an extra cinematic effect.
Same with sounds of the Cylon Raiders
By your command imperous leader.
It wasn't turning off a switch. What WTC1 & WTC2 wazs though was Digital Tower's. IC le Annalog tower is still there ESB
wait... in this universe, they said the old Cylon ships look like wings but those are 40 years old. ... how many years passed between the original and the reboot? cause if it's 40 years, that's just amazing how they integrated even the real-world time between versions into this.
I think the original was in 1978 and this one 2003.
@@FleetAdmiralDouglas you are correct. 70, 80, 90, 00. that's 40 years, give or take
1978 to 2003 is 25 years.
@@DaveMiller2 Yes; however, I think he did touch on something relevant, though the specific "40 year" point is off. In-universe, the first Cylon War was a major event a few decades in the past, something like how we view WWII. In our world, the first version of the show was a hit (kind of) a couple decades ago. So when they show old-gen Cylons and Cylon Raiders in their Cylon War museum, or when we see the "guardian" Cylons saying "By your command", it's a conscious nod to real-world nostalgia for the original show.
Why isn't there a manual control system ti bypass the cnp. I've always wondered that. I know it can be turned off due to how Pegasus survived.
Pegasus survived because the computer system was down to let them install Baltar's software. It was blind luck. Without the main computers, Pegasus still needs to have control of its systems for prosaic reasons - for instance, suppose there was a problem with part of the dock and they had to move the ship to another area. This is a battleship, with a crew of thousands. It has more need and more space for redundancies than a Viper.
I am not sure it would be practical to make a Viper work with fully manual, non-computerized controls due to space limitations, but in any case, they are not made that way. If the computer system goes down, you are going to have a bad day, By the way, this is also true of the older Vipers immune to the Cylon virus; the reason they are immune is software, not hardware. They were parked in a museum, and nobody bothered to load Baltar's new software into them.
My only problem with this scene is that ejection seats should still work with the computer down. It probably wouldn't have saved them since there would be nobody to pick them up before their suits ran out of air, but it would certainly have been worth trying in their situation.
Great! Now I have to go re-watch BSG!
Poor boomer. Miss her 🥺
Which one?
Jonathan I. Ezor there’s only one Boomer sir, Valerii. The other Sharon is Athena.
All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again. Boelcke rules of fighter tactics - #1 Come at your opponent with the sun behind you. Cylons are well read.
Even though I love the whole series the miniseries is unmatched in terms of atmosphere
Why doesn’t the Raptor jump? Did we not establish they do that yet?
I need to watch this show.
Now, after having watched it a couple of time and knowing how the serie progresses, you can deduct that Boomer is a Cylon by the fact that the raptor should've been affected as well since they didn't know about the ECM jamming of the Cylon so they couldn't defend against it. But with Boomer and Gallen being Cylons this could explain how the Raptor isn't affected and also how easy they can bypass the blockade as if the cylons didn't have the ability to track a new craft that just poped out of hyperspace while they knew how to track and ambush the vipers a moment ago in the vastness of space...
Best actors best shows.
I will never understand exagonal paper, how much pulroducion cost has rispect to rectangular paper? Are the corner recyled? I have so many question
Netflix/AmazonPrime should bring BG back.
Noticed the other day that all the 4 seasons is on PrimeVideo. Not the pilot though for some reason, but atleast its up there :)
@@SuperAerie I saw the pilot this weekend on amazon prime(brasil). Not sure it is in every country though.
@@Madferreiro Okay, nice, just assumed it was the same. Had a quick look just before my response and here in Sweden its from the first regular episode.
They brought it back on Amazon. But there is no Plan and Razor. I hope that Stargate and Babylon 5 will be aviable too
I just want to say that that paper with the corners cut....Is just asking for a paper jam...
Boomer also knew the tactic would work because... yaknow
*_SHE'S A FRAKKIN CYCLON!!_*
Energy from an explosion cannot transfer over empty space.
It's not the energy that's transfering, it the matter that has been energized that transfers. And the state of that matter, based on the level of energy it has. Our sun frequently does this to us in the form of Solar Flares. Where it ejects massive outburst of plasmified matter that interrupts EM communications on Earth.
Cyclons Raiders = AI powered battlefield Drones This series was way ahead of it's time.
That idea was already thought of a very long time ago.
The very first "Ok Boomer" 😆
I have one question about battle star galactica
where do they get their tobacco products from?
really its a question that needs to be asked, as they are flying for years in space and they are smoking, the amount of tobacco products needed to last this long of time, would equal maybe 2 or more ships being fully stocked where the whole ship is just dedicated to stocking tobacco products