Important note: NordVPN includes a "Kill Switch" that disables internet-accessing programs at the push of a button, or if the VPN connection is ended or lost. I only mention this because this seems like a thing that the Colonial CNP should have included. (And full disclosure: I am also a very satisfied NordVPN customer!)
This to me has always been one of the biggest gut punches in science fiction. It's one thing to fight a drawn out war and come out on the losing side. The fall of the 12 Colonies though, a giant gut punch leading to the fall of an entire civilization with no chance to fight back. Yes I know the Fleet survived and found Earth, but for all intents and purposes, the civilization of the 12 colonies of Cobol was turned to ashes in hours.
Yep. Compared to us, the 12 colonies was a massive Human empire a few centuries ahead of us. Probably several hundred billion people. The idea of all that falling in the space of a day is sobering. Of course, the Earth is also just an hour away from total destruction at any time too.
I did that today, unknowingly this video would later show up in my recommendations. “All along the watchtower”, that was the track, properly preceded by “Heed the call”, of course.
I hope The Templin Institute will tackle about the Colonial Fleet, the naval arm of the military of the United Colonies of Kobol in Battlestar Galactica in the next video.
Well to be fair, the issue wasn't the networking, the issue was the backdoor. The issue was the infiltration. A proper encryption would be what saves their systems, Cylon or no, you can make encryption methods that would take millions of years to break and gain access. Of course there wouldn't be much you could do about the massive nuclear bombardment, but at least the fleet wouldn't have been smeared.
In their defense, the cylons hadn’t been heard from in 40 years. I imagine that after a while people thought it was safe to construct networked systems again. Also there was no way of knowing about a back door that was built into their navigation system that could be remotely hacked.
To be fair, he didn't know that's what it was- he was getting tech help and other... help. And next time you see Tricia, tell me Lil Jim wouldn't be do some of the thinking for you.
The destruction of the colonies was by the most successful surprise attack in their history. The Twelve Colonies died in the fires of Nuclear destruction, but humanity will survive in the refugee fleet and its main battlestar, they chart a course into unknown space and rediscovered Earth.
From the show, I gathered that humanity didn't survive. It's implied with the discovery of "Mitochondrial Eve" in the last scene that Kobol humanity gave rise to a human/Cylon hybrid race...us. So should we call ourselves "Cyman" or "Hulon"? 😂
I’d love to see an alternate timeline series where Colonial Intelligence discover the humanoid models and the back door just prior to the attack. The Cylons would still do massive damage to the Colonies but the fleet could fight back, creating new social, political and personal issues for the show to work through while giving us more of BSG’s epic space battles.
I Remmeber that There its a Battlestar Galatica Mod for Homeworld that has one Scenario,The Virus Goes Through But the Colonial Fleet Manages to Defeat it Before The Entire Fleet go Down Several Colonies Are Nuked but the Colonials Manage to Repel the First Wave,in the Scenario you control the Atlantia and Several Others Battlestars as They Form a Blockade to Stop the Main Cylon Fleet in orbit of Caprica Led By Cavil once and for all,Also Gaius is Executed for High Treason There are 3 Endings Ending 1:The Colonial Fleet Holds the Line(If you are Good Enough you can do it Without Losing a Single Ship) This Cripples The Cylons as Even with Resurection most of their Fleet is Lost,Ending 2 is Repealing the Invasion with assistance From Galatica(if You Lose Enough Battlestars Galatica and Valkyrie will Jump in Behind The Cylons with The Main Cast Aboard,Apollo,Starbuck as Hero Units),The Third ending is The Bad Ending as the Entire Fleet is Destroyed including Galatica Dooming Humanity(You got to be Very bad in the game through to get this ending,as The 2 Mercuries in the Fleet can Knock out 4 Baseships Before they even have a Chance to Respond,Most likely you will Decimate the Cylons Without Galactica even arriving,Who needs her Anyways?)
now that would be a fun reboot of a great series, how it would go with a prolonged defensive war, where the cylons regularly do suicide nuking and worse on the colonies. you can defeat them, but the damage they do in the meantime stays.
If we're going into an alternate timeline, I'd rather see a reboot of the first Cylon war, one in which one side or the other could actually win. The Cylons could still infiltrate the Colonials with brainwashed, blackmailed, or even willing human prisoners.
I remember when I first saw the start of the reboot BsG. It was so different from the original (a landmark of my childhood) but, when I thought about it, when you considered how the Cylons viewed humans, it all made sense. You don't concern yourself with 'fair' or 'proportionate' when exterminating cockroaches and, to the Cylons, that is what they were doing. This was an act of interstellar hygiene, not a war.
Somewhere in the multiverse the "Battlestar CockRoachia" series is playing to rave reviews. Poor defenseless Blattodians against armies of tin cans known simply as "Raid"ers.
"There IS NO F-ing Cylon Plan!" - Ron Moore, his immediate reaction to David Eick suggesting they put this in the season one credits to keep viewers hooked on figuring out a central plot mystery that didn't actually exist
I've argued with him several times- the Cylons ABSOLUTELY had a plan... it was the same one as Bender. "Hey baby, wanna kill all the humans?" Everything else was made up on the fly- but that was the plan.
Man. Imagine if someone like J. Michael Straczynski had wrote BSG and everything had been written out ahead of time. This show could have been 10x more awesome than it already was.
Of course there was a plan (they even made a TV movie called "Battlestar Galactica: The Plan"). They couldn't make a coordinated surprise attack without a plan. Infiltrate certain agents into certain positions beforehand. Build so many ships and raiders to such and such specifications. Identify specific software to sell the Colonials and put this and that back doors in it which are activated using these and those codes. Send X base stars and Y raiders with Z nuclear warheads to Picon at time T after rendezvousing at such and such coordinates. And so on. Saying the Cylons didn't have a plan to take down the 12 Colonies is like saying the Allies didn't have a plan to invade Normandy.
And ironic, because software can’t protect against a back-door attack. Such an attack is created by the developer himself. He is creating software to be used by someone else… but gives himself a secret door in .. or a secret key, if you like.
By the time an advanced society reemerged on planet Earth (New Earth) nearly 150,000 years after settlement, the knowledge of Kobol and her Twelve Colonies had been lost. Even the fate of the star system of the Twelve Colonies, Cyrannus, was not revealed.
Completely erasing the entire point of how the cycle could have been ended; keep records and information for reference, and instead flipping the board to play the same game in the same way.
@@drunkdriver In what way? They know the cycle exists and happens. Evidence being the dead Earth. Keeping the knowledge lets them remind their future generations of the warning signs. They purposefully regressed themselves. We already saw in the ending that the cycle continues. Their abandonment of information storage did not change anything. Merely prolonged it. By keeping knowledge of the cylon wars, the previous earth wars, the kobol evacuation and agreement with the cylons, future generations would have a reference from which to decide whether to build A.I. and of they decide to do so, how to treat them.
@@armni4619 Keeping the knowledge means their hatred and desire for revenge for the destruction of the 12 colonies will continue to pass down through humanity. Future generations of humanity on new earth would then re-militarize and possibly re-ignite the cylon war with the mechanical cylons that are still out there or perhaps build cylons anyways because they are too foolish to heed ancient warnings.
I feel like this somewhat underplays how bad the Cylon genocide would be in terms of human suffering, but I also struggle to see how one might convey that in the Templin format.
@@hokutoulrik7345 It's true- the unfortunate thing is that our best literary tool for explaining it tends to be POV characters and the loss of specifically named people, which in and of itself is antithetical to the whole concept.
@@paulbobenhausen8031 Humans cannot comprehend vast scale numbers, like millions or billions. It's not a lack of empathy, it's just a lack of cognitive hardware and software to be able to picture it (so to speak). I remember hearing a story about a whole middle school started a paper butterfly memorial of the holocaust. Mostly for the children that were lost in it. Around 1.5 million of them were received in a cooperating museum, and when those middle school children saw the shear scale of it all... Many broken down, and some couldn't handle it.
Personally I Would Like A Sequel To Deadlock Set In A What If Scenario Were The Back Doors Failed. And The Reason Why They Failed Wasn't Because The Code Didn't Work But Because Most Of The Fleet Decided To Go Old School For The Day To Celebrate Galactica's Retirement. So Only The Ships Not In The Celebration Would Be Affected By The Virus. The Colonials Would See That And Put 2 And 2 Together. And Now The Fall Of The 12 Colonies Won't Be An Extermination But A Proper All Out War.
While storywise that’d be a good way for many battlegroups to catch onto the backdoor quickly, it doesn’t really make much sense for a modern military to suddenly turn off all its key systems just to celebrate the decommissioning of a likely-already-unpowered old girl. :/ What happens if a bunch of terrorists decide to attack the ceremony and were waiting for the battlestars to be self-nerfed for maximum chaos?
I’d have it so that the CNP didn’t work (or a bugged patch made it inconsistently effective). This way, we get a similar effect without an overly-contrived cause. But gameplay-wise, I’d have it so that each side’s strengths & weaknesses would be magnified over time: -For the Cylons: As they engage the Colonials over time, they all gain more combat experience. This means that even if ships get destroyed, every new ship that’s produced will already be “veteran”. However, not having any nearby colonies to extract resources, this means attrition will hit hard in the long run. -Result: For every battle you complete (win or lose), your new ships get higher stats in accuracy/damage. However, as time goes on (or the more you lose ships), every subsequent ship built has lower health &/or is more expensive to buy. -This encourages players to fight as many easy-to-win battles as possible, while pressuring them to avoid attrition warfare & long campaigns. -For the Colonials: Having billions of citizens & tons of infrastructure means that construction of new ships won’t be too difficult, even with extensive casualties. However, as the war drags on, the quality of human crew members will gradually decrease as the pool of ready candidates starts drying up. -Result: Colonial ship production isn’t hampered by time (unless key worlds are captured), but with each new ship/squadron produced, accuracy &/or damage is reduced until they become “veteran”. This encourages players to hammer out the Cylons as hard as possible, while pressuring them to keep as many “veteran” ships alive as long as possible to counter the growing competency of the Cylons.
@@UGNAvalon Heck, just a regular patch overwrote an important part of the backdoor code. I mean, how many times do games do updates that break mods- and its not like the Cylons would be getting the patch notes...
The expert exploitation of a known weakness and the element of surprise demonstrated at full power. The plan survived contact with the enemy, but didn't survive the test of time and the unknowns it brings.
I knew we would get to the Fall of the 12 Colonies soon enough. Truly this is one of the most horrific depictions of the robot apocalypse, right alongside Judgement Day from Terminator and the UN-Machine War from the Matrix. I hope you'll do more HiCom videos from Battlestar Galactica, like the Battle of New Caprica.
I'd say the UN-MW was the most horrific (from the list); the experimentations shown in the Animatrix are pretty messed up. But the Fall of the 12 Colonies was definitely the most effective and brutal.
Ain't the Humans though not also "Artificial" in Battlestar Galactica? I mean, spoiler alert but ... "the Circle" is about Cylons gettin' so advanced that you can't differ them anymore from Humans, forgoin' their Immortality, becomin' "Human", creatin' new Cyclons, gettin' whiped out mostly, mix with the Cylons which got sooo Human you can't differ them anymore and which give up on their immortality, creatin' new Cylons, gettin' whiped out mostly, ... and so on. While all the while traveling between Earth and the 12 Colonies back and forth. ... I mean, after two or three circles, there shouldn't be any "natural Human" left and anybody is already a decendend of a Cylons anyway?
the only way to break the cycle is get humans to consider non human life equal to theres which unfornatly is quite rare look at the discourse around fallout 4 and how people talk about synths essentially cylons even in real life people ignore them being printed people and just say "no its a machien it should have no rights or remorse shown to it".
@@wilmagregg3131 Yeah, no, I don't mean that point but you're right there. I meant, he said "Natural Life against Artificial one" or something like that, and I asked if there's even "natural Life" still around. Because we don't know how many circles were there already and so on.
Can't see that in todays atmosphere, imagine all the Cylon frickers out there no one would want to go to war with their robot love partners and there would be campaigns to cancel the government for robot rights.
Question: why can't the cycle ever be broken, and why can't the Galactica ever be destroyed? I've never really seen the show, so the only reason I know the lore is The Templin Institute & Certifiably Ingame
I won't give you context here in case you want to watch it (do, it's great!), but the very last scene of the series asks the question "Will the cycle be broken this time?".
@@JammyPajammies Apparently not, since another reboot of the franchise is on the way. Here's to hoping that they keep with the remnants of the previous cycles being found in the new one.
The cycle can't be broken, because the writers are hacks who literally made the story up as they went. They had a cool concept, for the remake but never actually thought it out in detail. The ending of the show is so mindnumbingly stupid and don't get me started with the whole thing on how Starbuck found the location of our Earth. Basically, from season 3 onwards, you can tell that the writers had lost the plot, so they came up following explanation: ''this is all God's plan..." This show started off as a great, grimdark, military Sci-Fi, touching on philosophical, social issues and then basically deteriorated into mystical nonsense. As for why the Galactica survived as long as it did: originally, the ship was decomissioned to become a museum and it wasn't connected to the Colonial Navy's computer network, afterwards it survives because of plot armor.
Progress reports arriving: The farms of Aerilon are burning. The beaches of Canceron are burning. The plains of Leonis are burning. The jungles of Scorpia are burning. The pastures of Tauron are burning. The harbours of Picon are burning. The cities of Caprica are burning. The oceans of Aquaria are burning. The courthouses of Libran are burning. The forests of Virgon are burning. The Colonies of Man lie trampled at our feet.
great vid!!! always up for more BSG content! hope you'll do an in-depth video on Baltar and Caprica Six. the most complex characters in the show I think
In the latter part of the series, I remember on a forum we came up with what we called the "Small Fleet Theory" - basically the idea was that the Cylons didn't really have all that many ships to go to war with (like very few - maybe 20-ish tops), hence the dependence on cyber-attacks. Basically between the civil war, and the ongoing pursuit, the idea was that the Cylons had probably lost or had mission-killed most of their usable space assets by the end of the series, and why they only ever seemed to commit a handful of BaseStars to their operations. Basically they weren't preparing for a war like the colonies thought, and they spent most of their time building up the organic models and the new Cylon race. Unfortunately there was a random shot in The Plan which shows hundreds or ships which totally undermines the idea, which sucks because it was a great theory to explain what happened in the show.
Well we cant forget there was a civle war between the Cylons meaning that even though they might have had loads of ships at tge start of the show, by the end of it they might have lost most of their assets ending up its only a few. The surviving ships might have just gone back to their home world after they thought they won.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 not to mention, the two we see (galactica and pegasus) did insane damage to the cylons, yes, you can download, but how many bodies and raiders and baseships you have to download? the few other not seen stragglers whittled the cylons down to manageable numbers. would be fun to see a sideshow of a few of them, one season, at the end they all die, but we know, each ship they take with them, helps the main group.
space is big. we can presume that they split there forces into a large search pattern. the fact they built bases in deep space shows a staged of find were humans can get food and water and wait for the humans to come to them. yes they had spying but it seemed fairly ineffective
This is so weird. I was just playing Battlestar Deadlock when this appeared on my feed. Good game but I wish it had gone further. Wish we could've seen more colonial ships that existed just before the fall. Or better yet, an alternate universe where the Cylons failed and a whole new war opens up
Shit, I'm still pissed with that mission where they destroy the Galleon- the single greatest find in your civilization, and you don't even TRY to preserve it, or even send teams aboard to download computers, pull artifacts/computers, anything...?
@@Sephiroth144 If they had then the whole fall of the colonies probably wouldn't have happened. The signal was the starting point that would've led to Kobal then to the 13th tribe's Cylon earth. I hate that they nerfed my favorite mission. The one that was supposed to be a rescue mission but turned out to be a trap by the SDU. Originally you jump in and your ships are disabled. All you can do is launch fighters. Then it's a careful game of using your vipers to defend and attack while prioritizing which ships and systems to bring back online first. And they up and got changed it so that it's no challenge at all.
@@CrazyNights1015 Yeah, that one was brutal... (I must've done my playthru before they changed it.) Of course, I'm not sure how much I by the "13 Tribes AND NO ONE ELSE" hypothesis for Kobol- there definitely seems to be a third part (Lords of Kobol and all that) in the mix. Doesn't quite fit otherwise IMnsHO.
Curious, do people like the wat the series ended? Or do people think it would have been better with a different ending? Like i would have personally have loved to have seen it end with the galactica meeting an even more advance civ of organics and robots living together reasonably well.
I liked the idea of the ending, an attempt to break the cycle yet in all likelyhood a repeat of the cycle...i like it picking up on that central theme again.
As far as i read 99% of the people hate it, the other 1% kind of accept it Mostly because of the throw away all of the techs instead of recording the whole thing into history to prevent it from happening again
@@paulhudson8725 yeahhh that part aleays confused me you know there was going to be a group of people who did exactly that no matter what and kept all the tech they could?
Hate it to bits. I just watch until Galactica shows up over Luna and then click off, those last five minutes are utter nonsense. I like to imagine that maybe they found modern day Earth and moved in alongside us instead, a far less terrible ending.
If you consider the series ending three minutes early, then I'm okay with it. (Granted, a little bit of eye-rolling for everyone going with Lee's "abandon everything" bit so easily- needed some actual push back on that front...)
Now the Templin Institute should do a video about the Cylon Civil War. We only got that brief glimpse of it involving those Basestars, I'd like to know if it had spread to the occupied Colonies, and the Cylon homeworld as well.
I still feel like there were survivors on other colonies. I mean, nuclear apocalyses on each one sure. But planets can recover from that kind of thing. But the possibility of survivors on colonies other than Caprica is never brought up in the show.
@@marcusblackwell2372 plus planets are HUGE. tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of square miles of space. Lots of places life (and humans) could survive. but I do get why the show didn't explore that
@@dartmada9733 if we can destroy the entire world ten times over and russia can destroy it 30 times over. I think you underestimate how effective nuking a planet can be. The radiation would be infused into all the water and food and plant life on each planet. Humans would fade away after a few years. Maybe a decade.
Now my question is from what we see in the movie "the plan" a huge cylon fleet all jump at once. Did the cylon divide up thier fleet and hit the 12 colonies all at once or did they assemble battlegroups and planet hopped across the systems nuking one planet at a time?
As close as possible to the same time; they had a big enough fleet to lay waste to the Twelve Colonies- and any ancillary colonies/outposts- simultaneously, then started hunting for any traveling between them. Edit- more important and military-rich targets (Caprica, Scorpia, Picon) did get the bulk of the fleet initially.
I watched the show many times, but some of the info you gave here explaining why things happened are completely new to me. I don't think the BSG reboot explained it well, but I enjoyed it regardless.
Hey, great vid. May I ask which TV series/movies were used for the background footage of the Cylon invasion of the Colonies (especial planet side footage)? I do not remember watching half of this footage in the main BSG show.
Mostly from the show and the following movies that were used to fill in the gaps as well as stuff from caprica and blood and chrome and who knows many some fan films or something
The first video I ever bought and loaded into my iPhone was this television series. I could go out into the middle of the ocean, and still have my Galactica, as long as the solar charger holds out.
If only John had allowed himself to sleep, and to dream! He became a walking Hill House ….. sleepless, dreamless, and possessed by the pervasive twin insanities of hatred and revenge. A civilization died for his lack of chill.
Do locust berserkers lay eggs or give live birth? Are the eggs really hard or are the babies just like a stress ball they can squeeze at first without harming them? With how strong and big a berserker is- if you try to pull the baby out and she has a contraction you’re loosing whatever you put in her to get it out be it arms, armor or pure steel. How do berserker births go?
Plot twist: the Cylons attack only to find their every weapon ineffective: harming nothing. As Six explains to Baltar in his home what she’s done, his horrified expression suddenly slips into one of disappointment. Then *he* explains how the Cylons have all been locked in a simulation and they have failed their test. And will now all, to the last, be deleted.
Half of them got Yeeted into a black hole by a Pissed Humanity and the Other Half Assimilated into It,Lets just hope that the Fifthteen Colony of Humanity does not Fall(Original 12,New Caprica,Earth Original,Neo-Earth(Our Earth),and that is not counting kobol),Holy shit in that world when Humanity Eventually Get FTl Again they will wave a Wealth of archeology to Dig
"The Cylon were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. They are many copies. And they have a plan." Narrator voice : "They did not, in fact, have a plan".
Its in the Frakkin SHIP!!!!!!! my favorite line of all BSG! However the creators of the show made a big mistake with the timeline. The Armistice was signed when the "5" offered up Resurrection and the Cylon Army pulled back...however, Sol Tye was already serving in the Colonial Fleet LONG before the Armistice was signed. Unless Sol Tye was a real person that was replaced AFTER the 1st war, the timeline doesnt add up. This was brought up by a fan at a ComiCon but the "Powers that be" just kinda looked at each other.
This show made me realize that if a robot, ai or anything of the kind tells me it is conscious and wants to be free. I'm not even gonna question it, i'll just grant it if it's within my power.
The one aspect of BSG mythology that is critical to making the combat watchable, is the nerfing of nukes. BSG is my favorite sci-fi show of all time, and I think the main story of the fall of the 12 colonies is heart breaking and wonderfully written. So many almost epic themes explored. But the space battles, the relevance of human fighters and especially pilots, requires that nukes be severely nerfed. They don’t just throw multiple big nukes at each other and the battle stars survive the tactical nukes, which seem to be very very sparsely used… even though Cylons were able to hit every major city in the 12 colonies with something much bigger than a small tactical nuke. In real life, MAD is the only thing that prevents the use of nukes.
Thank you the Video and the English subtitle. What do you think ended up choosing the path of primitivism on earth? With the loss of technology and not living together with the Allied cylons, the technology of the possibility of immortality was lost, and approx. The history of the development of mankind has been set back for 150,000 years. But the most important and worst thing is that the lessons and wisdoms of the cycle and history have not been provided for themselves and future generations, so they have forgotten and the cycle can start all over again at the risk of not remaining survivors next time.
The Question could be asked, with the 1970s Battlestar Galatica, could that idea be an Alternate Reality Battlestar Galatica? Or is the 70s Version a time 1000s of years before or after the great exodus from Kobol.
And even then, I think its limited to the Centurions; the space warfare still holdings up IMnsHO (with the exceptions of reused shots- still wish they'd filmed a few more landing scenes =p )
Great video as only way, Cylon's could win was by an ace in the hole and the cnp was that ace in the whole. As had it not been around to disable majority of colonial fleet assets, ships and defences grids, Cylon's fleets would have had to engage in a war of attrition with much better armoured and armed pure battlefleet of the colonial fleet which it would have properly lost in the end.
I like to thank the Templin Institute for thier most depressing episodes. Lee Adama right up there with Ted Faro in acts of stupidity. Though Lee adama did not cause the fall of the 12 colonies. Unike his distant offspring Ted Faro which caused the death of all human life on Earth for a time. Like and his distant descendant destroyed priceless cultural history and knowledge for insanely stupid reasons of ego.
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“This is a joke. The fleet’s playing a joke on you. It’s a retirement prank, come on.”
"I don't think so."
Adama definitely had good instincts.
If it wasn't transmitted "in the clear" he might have thought that as well but they'd never transmit that for everyone to hear unless it was true
This to me has always been one of the biggest gut punches in science fiction. It's one thing to fight a drawn out war and come out on the losing side. The fall of the 12 Colonies though, a giant gut punch leading to the fall of an entire civilization with no chance to fight back. Yes I know the Fleet survived and found Earth, but for all intents and purposes, the civilization of the 12 colonies of Cobol was turned to ashes in hours.
Yep. Compared to us, the 12 colonies was a massive Human empire a few centuries ahead of us. Probably several hundred billion people. The idea of all that falling in the space of a day is sobering. Of course, the Earth is also just an hour away from total destruction at any time too.
And that form of humanity went extinct within 80 years.
Fantastic recap! Now I have to re-watch and enjoy Bear McCreary‘s amazing soundtrack.
Didnt expect you to find you here, but i guess experimental music inspires from a lot of sources.
Thanks! His version of the Colonial Anthem is one of those tracks that gets me pumped up no matter how many times I hear it.
Just finished my sixth viewing the music is so good and visuals hold up.
I did that today, unknowingly this video would later show up in my recommendations.
“All along the watchtower”, that was the track, properly preceded by “Heed the call”, of course.
Love Apocalypse
I hope The Templin Institute will tackle about the Colonial Fleet, the naval arm of the military of the United Colonies of Kobol in Battlestar Galactica in the next video.
So Say We All.
That and the history of the colonies and their conflicts with each other
All This Has Happened Before
@@TheCapricaProjects All of this shall happen again
@@McTeerZor “You know he doesn’t like that name”. “Silly me, silly me”
And to think, this all could've been avoided if the Colonials thought, "Hey, we're fighting machines. Maybe we shouldn't network our stuff."
Well to be fair, the issue wasn't the networking, the issue was the backdoor. The issue was the infiltration. A proper encryption would be what saves their systems, Cylon or no, you can make encryption methods that would take millions of years to break and gain access. Of course there wouldn't be much you could do about the massive nuclear bombardment, but at least the fleet wouldn't have been smeared.
"This is a joke, it's a retirement prank, c'mon."
We tend to forget and deny constantly, like nothing could possibly happen to us.
Galactica: We
Colonial Fleet: We
Galactica: Don't
Colonial Fleet: Don't
Galactica: Network
Colonial Fleet: Network
Galactica: Computers
Colonials Fleet: Computers
Galactica: We don't network computers.
Colonial Fleet: I am networking everything.
The Colonials were fighting alien machines in the original. Basically a foreign power unconnected to them.
In their defense, the cylons hadn’t been heard from in 40 years. I imagine that after a while people thought it was safe to construct networked systems again. Also there was no way of knowing about a back door that was built into their navigation system that could be remotely hacked.
50 billion people died because Baltar couldn't keep his pants on. I don't care how good Six was as a lover. _Not worth it._
To be fair, he didn't know that's what it was- he was getting tech help and other... help.
And next time you see Tricia, tell me Lil Jim wouldn't be do some of the thinking for you.
Nah. Totally worth it.
Worth it for Baltar
@@scesfizia
Baltar on his death bed: @_@ worth it
not sure how many of the men would refuse six even if she was outright told the cost of the affair.
The destruction of the colonies was by the most successful surprise attack in their history. The Twelve Colonies died in the fires of Nuclear destruction, but humanity will survive in the refugee fleet and its main battlestar, they chart a course into unknown space and rediscovered Earth.
From the show, I gathered that humanity didn't survive. It's implied with the discovery of "Mitochondrial Eve" in the last scene that Kobol humanity gave rise to a human/Cylon hybrid race...us. So should we call ourselves "Cyman" or "Hulon"? 😂
I’d love to see an alternate timeline series where Colonial Intelligence discover the humanoid models and the back door just prior to the attack. The Cylons would still do massive damage to the Colonies but the fleet could fight back, creating new social, political and personal issues for the show to work through while giving us more of BSG’s epic space battles.
I Remmeber that There its a Battlestar Galatica Mod for Homeworld that has one Scenario,The Virus Goes Through But the Colonial Fleet Manages to Defeat it Before The Entire Fleet go Down Several Colonies Are Nuked but the Colonials Manage to Repel the First Wave,in the Scenario you control the Atlantia and Several Others Battlestars as They Form a Blockade to Stop the Main Cylon Fleet in orbit of Caprica Led By Cavil once and for all,Also Gaius is Executed for High Treason There are 3 Endings Ending 1:The Colonial Fleet Holds the Line(If you are Good Enough you can do it Without Losing a Single Ship) This Cripples The Cylons as Even with Resurection most of their Fleet is Lost,Ending 2 is Repealing the Invasion with assistance From Galatica(if You Lose Enough Battlestars Galatica and Valkyrie will Jump in Behind The Cylons with The Main Cast Aboard,Apollo,Starbuck as Hero Units),The Third ending is The Bad Ending as the Entire Fleet is Destroyed including Galatica Dooming Humanity(You got to be Very bad in the game through to get this ending,as The 2 Mercuries in the Fleet can Knock out 4 Baseships Before they even have a Chance to Respond,Most likely you will Decimate the Cylons Without Galactica even arriving,Who needs her Anyways?)
Same
now that would be a fun reboot of a great series, how it would go with a prolonged defensive war, where the cylons regularly do suicide nuking and worse on the colonies. you can defeat them, but the damage they do in the meantime stays.
If we're going into an alternate timeline, I'd rather see a reboot of the first Cylon war, one in which one side or the other could actually win. The Cylons could still infiltrate the Colonials with brainwashed, blackmailed, or even willing human prisoners.
what did cylons do after they destroyed all 12 colonies
Thoroughly appreciate the recent Battlestar Galactica streak, and of course a great video as always
I remember when I first saw the start of the reboot BsG. It was so different from the original (a landmark of my childhood) but, when I thought about it, when you considered how the Cylons viewed humans, it all made sense. You don't concern yourself with 'fair' or 'proportionate' when exterminating cockroaches and, to the Cylons, that is what they were doing. This was an act of interstellar hygiene, not a war.
“This is not war! THIS IS PEST CONTROL!!”
Somewhere in the multiverse the "Battlestar CockRoachia" series is playing to rave reviews.
Poor defenseless Blattodians against armies of tin cans known simply as "Raid"ers.
@@mvuto137 I would watch that show.
Well did humans think of the Cylons any differently? Theyre just tin cans.
"There IS NO F-ing Cylon Plan!" - Ron Moore, his immediate reaction to David Eick suggesting they put this in the season one credits to keep viewers hooked on figuring out a central plot mystery that didn't actually exist
Well, does wanting to kill all humans count as a plan?
I've argued with him several times- the Cylons ABSOLUTELY had a plan... it was the same one as Bender.
"Hey baby, wanna kill all the humans?"
Everything else was made up on the fly- but that was the plan.
Man. Imagine if someone like J. Michael Straczynski had wrote BSG and everything had been written out ahead of time. This show could have been 10x more awesome than it already was.
@@Sephiroth144 That's a goal of a plan, not the plan itself.
Of course there was a plan (they even made a TV movie called "Battlestar Galactica: The Plan"). They couldn't make a coordinated surprise attack without a plan. Infiltrate certain agents into certain positions beforehand. Build so many ships and raiders to such and such specifications. Identify specific software to sell the Colonials and put this and that back doors in it which are activated using these and those codes. Send X base stars and Y raiders with Z nuclear warheads to Picon at time T after rendezvousing at such and such coordinates. And so on.
Saying the Cylons didn't have a plan to take down the 12 Colonies is like saying the Allies didn't have a plan to invade Normandy.
Normally I hate built in ads, but I have to say relating Nord VPN as security for protecting against a Cylon back door is really clever 😂
And ironic, because software can’t protect against a back-door attack. Such an attack is created by the developer himself. He is creating software to be used by someone else… but gives himself a secret door in .. or a secret key, if you like.
Plot twist nord vpn is made by cylons
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By the time an advanced society reemerged on planet Earth (New Earth) nearly 150,000 years after settlement, the knowledge of Kobol and her Twelve Colonies had been lost. Even the fate of the star system of the Twelve Colonies, Cyrannus, was not revealed.
not only that but the centurions that left at the end are probably still out there.
Completely erasing the entire point of how the cycle could have been ended; keep records and information for reference, and instead flipping the board to play the same game in the same way.
@@armni4619 if they had kept the knowledge and the technology then the cycle would have repeated itself even faster.
@@drunkdriver In what way? They know the cycle exists and happens. Evidence being the dead Earth. Keeping the knowledge lets them remind their future generations of the warning signs. They purposefully regressed themselves. We already saw in the ending that the cycle continues. Their abandonment of information storage did not change anything. Merely prolonged it.
By keeping knowledge of the cylon wars, the previous earth wars, the kobol evacuation and agreement with the cylons, future generations would have a reference from which to decide whether to build A.I. and of they decide to do so, how to treat them.
@@armni4619 Keeping the knowledge means their hatred and desire for revenge for the destruction of the 12 colonies will continue to pass down through humanity. Future generations of humanity on new earth would then re-militarize and possibly re-ignite the cylon war with the mechanical cylons that are still out there or perhaps build cylons anyways because they are too foolish to heed ancient warnings.
I feel like this somewhat underplays how bad the Cylon genocide would be in terms of human suffering, but I also struggle to see how one might convey that in the Templin format.
Genocide on that scale is unimaginable. A population of billions reduced to a few thousand in less than a day. It boggles the mind.
@@hokutoulrik7345 It's true- the unfortunate thing is that our best literary tool for explaining it tends to be POV characters and the loss of specifically named people, which in and of itself is antithetical to the whole concept.
@@paulbobenhausen8031 Humans cannot comprehend vast scale numbers, like millions or billions. It's not a lack of empathy, it's just a lack of cognitive hardware and software to be able to picture it (so to speak). I remember hearing a story about a whole middle school started a paper butterfly memorial of the holocaust. Mostly for the children that were lost in it. Around 1.5 million of them were received in a cooperating museum, and when those middle school children saw the shear scale of it all... Many broken down, and some couldn't handle it.
Hope we see an arsenal about the Jupiter or Mercury class, that would be amazing!
You should play BSG deadlock. You can control a fleet in BSG with all the stats and details
@@davidring681 way ahead of you, played it since launch
Personally I Would Like A Sequel To Deadlock Set In A What If Scenario Were The Back Doors Failed.
And The Reason Why They Failed Wasn't Because The Code Didn't Work But Because Most Of The Fleet Decided To Go Old School For The Day To Celebrate Galactica's Retirement.
So Only The Ships Not In The Celebration Would Be Affected By The Virus.
The Colonials Would See That And Put 2 And 2 Together.
And Now The Fall Of The 12 Colonies Won't Be An Extermination But A Proper All Out War.
Agreed, I prefer contested conflicts rather than one side having any kind of advantage.
While storywise that’d be a good way for many battlegroups to catch onto the backdoor quickly, it doesn’t really make much sense for a modern military to suddenly turn off all its key systems just to celebrate the decommissioning of a likely-already-unpowered old girl. :/ What happens if a bunch of terrorists decide to attack the ceremony and were waiting for the battlestars to be self-nerfed for maximum chaos?
I’d have it so that the CNP didn’t work (or a bugged patch made it inconsistently effective). This way, we get a similar effect without an overly-contrived cause.
But gameplay-wise, I’d have it so that each side’s strengths & weaknesses would be magnified over time:
-For the Cylons: As they engage the Colonials over time, they all gain more combat experience. This means that even if ships get destroyed, every new ship that’s produced will already be “veteran”. However, not having any nearby colonies to extract resources, this means attrition will hit hard in the long run.
-Result: For every battle you complete (win or lose), your new ships get higher stats in accuracy/damage. However, as time goes on (or the more you lose ships), every subsequent ship built has lower health &/or is more expensive to buy.
-This encourages players to fight as many easy-to-win battles as possible, while pressuring them to avoid attrition warfare & long campaigns.
-For the Colonials: Having billions of citizens & tons of infrastructure means that construction of new ships won’t be too difficult, even with extensive casualties. However, as the war drags on, the quality of human crew members will gradually decrease as the pool of ready candidates starts drying up.
-Result: Colonial ship production isn’t hampered by time (unless key worlds are captured), but with each new ship/squadron produced, accuracy &/or damage is reduced until they become “veteran”. This encourages players to hammer out the Cylons as hard as possible, while pressuring them to keep as many “veteran” ships alive as long as possible to counter the growing competency of the Cylons.
@@UGNAvalon Heck, just a regular patch overwrote an important part of the backdoor code. I mean, how many times do games do updates that break mods- and its not like the Cylons would be getting the patch notes...
@@UGNAvalon eh you can make it like “we’re showing our respect to the old girl by going offline “
I love the speech at 8:43, it really sums up the rest of the series in a paragraph.
The expert exploitation of a known weakness and the element of surprise demonstrated at full power. The plan survived contact with the enemy, but didn't survive the test of time and the unknowns it brings.
One of my favourite shows and franchises of all time shame there's no extended lore with it.
I agree , but there is a new series in development set in tye same universe helmed by the guy that done Mr robot .
I knew we would get to the Fall of the 12 Colonies soon enough.
Truly this is one of the most horrific depictions of the robot apocalypse, right alongside Judgement Day from Terminator and the UN-Machine War from the Matrix.
I hope you'll do more HiCom videos from Battlestar Galactica, like the Battle of New Caprica.
I'd say the UN-MW was the most horrific (from the list); the experimentations shown in the Animatrix are pretty messed up.
But the Fall of the 12 Colonies was definitely the most effective and brutal.
Ain't the Humans though not also "Artificial" in Battlestar Galactica?
I mean, spoiler alert but ... "the Circle" is about Cylons gettin' so advanced that you can't differ them anymore from Humans, forgoin' their Immortality, becomin' "Human", creatin' new Cyclons, gettin' whiped out mostly, mix with the Cylons which got sooo Human you can't differ them anymore and which give up on their immortality, creatin' new Cylons, gettin' whiped out mostly, ... and so on. While all the while traveling between Earth and the 12 Colonies back and forth.
... I mean, after two or three circles, there shouldn't be any "natural Human" left and anybody is already a decendend of a Cylons anyway?
the only way to break the cycle is get humans to consider non human life equal to theres which unfornatly is quite rare look at the discourse around fallout 4 and how people talk about synths essentially cylons even in real life people ignore them being printed people and just say "no its a machien it should have no rights or remorse shown to it".
@@wilmagregg3131 Yeah, no, I don't mean that point but you're right there.
I meant, he said "Natural Life against Artificial one" or something like that, and I asked if there's even "natural Life" still around.
Because we don't know how many circles were there already and so on.
Can't see that in todays atmosphere, imagine all the Cylon frickers out there no one would want to go to war with their robot love partners and there would be campaigns to cancel the government for robot rights.
part of me is really hoping Templin follows up these videos with videos about the 1978 Battlestar galactica series. Alternate Worlds and all that...
Question: why can't the cycle ever be broken, and why can't the Galactica ever be destroyed? I've never really seen the show, so the only reason I know the lore is The Templin Institute & Certifiably Ingame
People are jerks and the Galactica has a bunch of guns.
@@TemplinInstitute This can be applied to many realities. Even our own. Thanks
I won't give you context here in case you want to watch it (do, it's great!), but the very last scene of the series asks the question "Will the cycle be broken this time?".
@@JammyPajammies Apparently not, since another reboot of the franchise is on the way.
Here's to hoping that they keep with the remnants of the previous cycles being found in the new one.
The cycle can't be broken, because the writers are hacks who literally made the story up as they went. They had a cool concept, for the remake but never actually thought it out in detail.
The ending of the show is so mindnumbingly stupid and don't get me started with the whole thing on how Starbuck found the location of our Earth.
Basically, from season 3 onwards, you can tell that the writers had lost the plot, so they came up following explanation:
''this is all God's plan..."
This show started off as a great, grimdark, military Sci-Fi, touching on philosophical, social issues and then basically deteriorated into mystical nonsense.
As for why the Galactica survived as long as it did: originally, the ship was decomissioned to become a museum and it wasn't connected to the Colonial Navy's computer network, afterwards it survives because of plot armor.
Progress reports arriving:
The farms of Aerilon are burning.
The beaches of Canceron are burning.
The plains of Leonis are burning.
The jungles of Scorpia are burning.
The pastures of Tauron are burning.
The harbours of Picon are burning.
The cities of Caprica are burning.
The oceans of Aquaria are burning.
The courthouses of Libran are burning.
The forests of Virgon are burning.
The Colonies of Man lie trampled at our feet.
Funny how Geminon was left out.
Love how this explains the origin, roles and fate of the Final Five
Props on another interesting and entertaining video, good job!
great vid!!! always up for more BSG content! hope you'll do an in-depth video on Baltar and Caprica Six. the most complex characters in the show I think
Man... I need to rewatch this. It was so good.
amazing!!! please do a battle star Pegasus recap at some point. love that ship!!!
Short answer. Baltar couldn't keep it in his pants.
Very short anwser: machine punch weeeeeee
Clever Social Engineering 😂
The colonials needed better IT support
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If only we could get a SCi Fi series of this caliber again.
If only the Cylons had a planet killer or a trilithium device. That’s how you utterly and totally destroy humanity.
In the latter part of the series, I remember on a forum we came up with what we called the "Small Fleet Theory" - basically the idea was that the Cylons didn't really have all that many ships to go to war with (like very few - maybe 20-ish tops), hence the dependence on cyber-attacks. Basically between the civil war, and the ongoing pursuit, the idea was that the Cylons had probably lost or had mission-killed most of their usable space assets by the end of the series, and why they only ever seemed to commit a handful of BaseStars to their operations. Basically they weren't preparing for a war like the colonies thought, and they spent most of their time building up the organic models and the new Cylon race. Unfortunately there was a random shot in The Plan which shows hundreds or ships which totally undermines the idea, which sucks because it was a great theory to explain what happened in the show.
Well we cant forget there was a civle war between the Cylons meaning that even though they might have had loads of ships at tge start of the show, by the end of it they might have lost most of their assets ending up its only a few. The surviving ships might have just gone back to their home world after they thought they won.
Maybe a few Colonial warships stayed active and occupied the cylons the first few months before their destruction.
@@jamesxiaolong2199 not to mention, the two we see (galactica and pegasus) did insane damage to the cylons, yes, you can download, but how many bodies and raiders and baseships you have to download? the few other not seen stragglers whittled the cylons down to manageable numbers. would be fun to see a sideshow of a few of them, one season, at the end they all die, but we know, each ship they take with them, helps the main group.
space is big. we can presume that they split there forces into a large search pattern. the fact they built bases in deep space shows a staged of find were humans can get food and water and wait for the humans to come to them. yes they had spying but it seemed fairly ineffective
Masterfully done! Was a real joy to watch.
That’s two Templin videos on BSG. Is there a reboot I’m not aware of?
We need MORE BATTLESTAR. Hands down the best lore videos for BSG
I frakking love that you are putting out more BSG content
This is so weird. I was just playing Battlestar Deadlock when this appeared on my feed.
Good game but I wish it had gone further. Wish we could've seen more colonial ships that existed just before the fall. Or better yet, an alternate universe where the Cylons failed and a whole new war opens up
Shit, I'm still pissed with that mission where they destroy the Galleon- the single greatest find in your civilization, and you don't even TRY to preserve it, or even send teams aboard to download computers, pull artifacts/computers, anything...?
@@Sephiroth144 If they had then the whole fall of the colonies probably wouldn't have happened. The signal was the starting point that would've led to Kobal then to the 13th tribe's Cylon earth.
I hate that they nerfed my favorite mission. The one that was supposed to be a rescue mission but turned out to be a trap by the SDU. Originally you jump in and your ships are disabled. All you can do is launch fighters. Then it's a careful game of using your vipers to defend and attack while prioritizing which ships and systems to bring back online first.
And they up and got changed it so that it's no challenge at all.
@@CrazyNights1015 Yeah, that one was brutal... (I must've done my playthru before they changed it.)
Of course, I'm not sure how much I by the "13 Tribes AND NO ONE ELSE" hypothesis for Kobol- there definitely seems to be a third part (Lords of Kobol and all that) in the mix. Doesn't quite fit otherwise IMnsHO.
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Curious, do people like the wat the series ended? Or do people think it would have been better with a different ending? Like i would have personally have loved to have seen it end with the galactica meeting an even more advance civ of organics and robots living together reasonably well.
I liked the idea of the ending, an attempt to break the cycle yet in all likelyhood a repeat of the cycle...i like it picking up on that central theme again.
As far as i read
99% of the people hate it, the other 1% kind of accept it
Mostly because of the throw away all of the techs instead of recording the whole thing into history to prevent it from happening again
@@paulhudson8725 yeahhh that part aleays confused me you know there was going to be a group of people who did exactly that no matter what and kept all the tech they could?
Hate it to bits. I just watch until Galactica shows up over Luna and then click off, those last five minutes are utter nonsense. I like to imagine that maybe they found modern day Earth and moved in alongside us instead, a far less terrible ending.
If you consider the series ending three minutes early, then I'm okay with it. (Granted, a little bit of eye-rolling for everyone going with Lee's "abandon everything" bit so easily- needed some actual push back on that front...)
For once, Nord actually has a fitting ad!
You should cover The Last Stand of The Black Watch from Battletech
Been loving the BSG content. Keep it coming
Love all the Galactica content! So say we all!
the fall malevelon creek reminded me of the fall of the 12 colonies
Now the Templin Institute should do a video about the Cylon Civil War. We only got that brief glimpse of it involving those Basestars, I'd like to know if it had spread to the occupied Colonies, and the Cylon homeworld as well.
Thanks!
All this has happened before and will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.
Please do more Ronald Moore stuff. BSG and For All Mankind are some of the best scifi
I just finished my sixth viewing of BSG. I love this series.
I still feel like there were survivors on other colonies. I mean, nuclear apocalyses on each one sure. But planets can recover from that kind of thing. But the possibility of survivors on colonies other than Caprica is never brought up in the show.
Maybe some remnant of Earth is also alive. If not humans on the planet, then at least some form of life
@@marcusblackwell2372 plus planets are HUGE. tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of square miles of space. Lots of places life (and humans) could survive. but I do get why the show didn't explore that
@@dartmada9733 if we can destroy the entire world ten times over and russia can destroy it 30 times over. I think you underestimate how effective nuking a planet can be. The radiation would be infused into all the water and food and plant life on each planet. Humans would fade away after a few years. Maybe a decade.
@@davidring681well anyway. great show
Deffo in places like the jungles of Scorpio
Now my question is from what we see in the movie "the plan" a huge cylon fleet all jump at once.
Did the cylon divide up thier fleet and hit the 12 colonies all at once or did they assemble battlegroups and planet hopped across the systems nuking one planet at a time?
They hit all of the Colonies at the same time.
As close as possible to the same time; they had a big enough fleet to lay waste to the Twelve Colonies- and any ancillary colonies/outposts- simultaneously, then started hunting for any traveling between them.
Edit- more important and military-rich targets (Caprica, Scorpia, Picon) did get the bulk of the fleet initially.
My God right in the feels that music fit perfectly
I watched the show many times, but some of the info you gave here explaining why things happened are completely new to me. I don't think the BSG reboot explained it well, but I enjoyed it regardless.
Hey, great vid. May I ask which TV series/movies were used for the background footage of the Cylon invasion of the Colonies (especial planet side footage)? I do not remember watching half of this footage in the main BSG show.
Mostly from the show and the following movies that were used to fill in the gaps as well as stuff from caprica and blood and chrome and who knows many some fan films or something
The movie "The Plan" supplied some of the footage.
Cool, thanks guys.
The first video I ever bought and loaded into my iPhone was this television series. I could go out into the middle of the ocean, and still have my Galactica, as long as the solar charger holds out.
If only John had allowed himself to sleep, and to dream! He became a walking Hill House ….. sleepless, dreamless, and possessed by the pervasive twin insanities of hatred and revenge. A civilization died for his lack of chill.
Love that you chose to....cut corners with this vid :)
This show still pulls my heart 20 years later lol. Such advancements just gone and back to their version of the 1940s lol..
Do locust berserkers lay eggs or give live birth?
Are the eggs really hard or are the babies just like a stress ball they can squeeze at first without harming them?
With how strong and big a berserker is- if you try to pull the baby out and she has a contraction you’re loosing whatever you put in her to get it out be it arms, armor or pure steel.
How do berserker births go?
Forgot how confusing this plot was. Everyone was a damn Cylon.
Plot twist: the Cylons attack only to find their every weapon ineffective: harming nothing. As Six explains to Baltar in his home what she’s done, his horrified expression suddenly slips into one of disappointment. Then *he* explains how the Cylons have all been locked in a simulation and they have failed their test. And will now all, to the last, be deleted.
Government: we should get our systems Pentested.
Six: I'll take that job.
I have always been seeking a play by play description of events of the fall of the colonies.
So you mean to tell me they eliminated 99% of humanity.. and got rekt by the last remaining few battlestars and few civilian escorts..... damn...
Half of them got Yeeted into a black hole by a Pissed Humanity and the Other Half Assimilated into It,Lets just hope that the Fifthteen Colony of Humanity does not Fall(Original 12,New Caprica,Earth Original,Neo-Earth(Our Earth),and that is not counting kobol),Holy shit in that world when Humanity Eventually Get FTl Again they will wave a Wealth of archeology to Dig
It's worth noting that there was no plan after their return :D
"The Cylon were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. They are many copies. And they have a plan."
Narrator voice : "They did not, in fact, have a plan".
Its in the Frakkin SHIP!!!!!!! my favorite line of all BSG! However the creators of the show made a big mistake with the timeline. The Armistice was signed when the "5" offered up Resurrection and the Cylon Army pulled back...however, Sol Tye was already serving in the Colonial Fleet LONG before the Armistice was signed. Unless Sol Tye was a real person that was replaced AFTER the 1st war, the timeline doesnt add up. This was brought up by a fan at a ComiCon but the "Powers that be" just kinda looked at each other.
This show made me realize that if a robot, ai or anything of the kind tells me it is conscious and wants to be free.
I'm not even gonna question it, i'll just grant it if it's within my power.
The one aspect of BSG mythology that is critical to making the combat watchable, is the nerfing of nukes.
BSG is my favorite sci-fi show of all time, and I think the main story of the fall of the 12 colonies is heart breaking and wonderfully written. So many almost epic themes explored.
But the space battles, the relevance of human fighters and especially pilots, requires that nukes be severely nerfed. They don’t just throw multiple big nukes at each other and the battle stars survive the tactical nukes, which seem to be very very sparsely used… even though Cylons were able to hit every major city in the 12 colonies with something much bigger than a small tactical nuke.
In real life, MAD is the only thing that prevents the use of nukes.
Once they were the United Colonies of Kobol. Now not anymore.
Hurt me to no end Gaius survived the 2004 BSG series
good thing the GTU didnt fall for the same tactics during the NEX Uprising ehhehehe :)
This helps bring home how tragic the genocide was.
SO SAY WE ALL templin institute
I really need to watch this show.
My Gods, I love BSG, It's so much more then 'just' Sci Fi
Frakkin' Cylons.
And you guys had me commuted when I said my iPhone was plotting against me. I should have known that psychiatrist was a cylon in disguise
You should do the Mysterons from Gerry Anderson's Captain Scarlet!
Thank you the Video and the English subtitle.
What do you think ended up choosing the path of primitivism on earth?
With the loss of technology and not living together with the Allied cylons, the technology of the possibility of immortality was lost, and approx. The history of the development of mankind has been set back for 150,000 years.
But the most important and worst thing is that the lessons and wisdoms of the cycle and history have not been provided for themselves and future generations, so they have forgotten and the cycle can start all over again at the risk of not remaining survivors next time.
I never watched battle star galactica but man humanity in this universe seems even more incompetent than humans in this world
Wow! Sounds so compelling! I may need to watch this. ;)
Start with the miniseries; its good- then that first episode in season 1 hits and godsdamn...
Why is the Battlestar Pegasus destroyed at the docks at 06:15 ? It is showed in great shape under Cain's command later in the show.
They escaped...
Realising they were about to be destroyed, Pegasus escaped with an FTL jump. (Battlestar Galactica: Razor)
Could someone point me to the source of the scenes immediately past 7:35?
I think I haven't seen everything yet :)
The Plan
1:52 “the creator and their creators”
Script mistake?
No. Humanity is actually created by an unknown entity in one of the episodes.
@@somerandomdude7785 which one?
Yeah. The artificial voice was fed a typo.
Two Galactica videos in such a short span. Is there a new Galactica series that you guys are promoting?
The Question could be asked, with the 1970s Battlestar Galatica, could that idea be an Alternate Reality Battlestar Galatica? Or is the 70s Version a time 1000s of years before or after the great exodus from Kobol.
In some ways this reminds me of the attack on Pearl Harbor that brought the US into WW2.
BSG - my favorite docu-drama.
so say we all
Well, that was a depressing flashback. What an amazing series.
where are the battle clips from?
The reimagined version of BSG is just do good, even if the show is old and the cgi is a little dated it still impacts so hard
And even then, I think its limited to the Centurions; the space warfare still holdings up IMnsHO (with the exceptions of reused shots- still wish they'd filmed a few more landing scenes =p )
Would love to see videos on Legend of the Galactic Heroes!!
This, I wish thua series has more popularity that deserve
@@maxcruz1193 It's literally perfect for this channel.
Great video as only way, Cylon's could win was by an ace in the hole and the cnp was that ace in the whole. As had it not been around to disable majority of colonial fleet assets, ships and defences grids, Cylon's fleets would have had to engage in a war of attrition with much better armoured and armed pure battlefleet of the colonial fleet which it would have properly lost in the end.
I like to thank the Templin Institute for thier most depressing episodes.
Lee Adama right up there with Ted Faro in acts of stupidity. Though Lee adama did not cause the fall of the 12 colonies. Unike his distant offspring Ted Faro which caused the death of all human life on Earth for a time. Like and his distant descendant destroyed priceless cultural history and knowledge for insanely stupid reasons of ego.
Ah, right, Ferroplague, that's where I know that name from.
To Galactica, the best damn ship
In the fleet! So say we all!
Where is all this footage used in this video from?
I recognise at least some of it from "Battlestar Galactica: Razor"