I don’t have a pickup, I have a Celica with a 22r, so I’m here because not many people make content for our cars. Probably gonna start my own channel. This is inspiring. Thanks man!
I did he header on my 86 Toyota 2wd. Loved it!! But I had my exhaust done at a shop back home . Castro’s in Parker Az!! I used a borla xs 2 1/4 muffler with pipe to the lr with a tip . Cost me 350 installed ! I love it!
I recently picked up a ‘93 pickup with low mileage and am trying to go through a do my due diligence in replacing parts and restoring vehicle. I have been reading about the timing chain guide being the Achilles heel of the 22R/22RE engines. How do I know if I need to replace timing chain guide?
@@kalaibeck2690 you can see the guides if you take off the valve cover, super easy to check and when I did I saw that mine were long gone so it saved me from engine failure
Finally came across a pretty detailed bolt on assembly. Ive been frustrated trying to figure out my 94 Lux set up. I have the LCE pro headers and was gona have the rest welded but didnt have the idea to just go full bolt on. Thank you for posting bro. Excellent vid and luv to see more on your build. Just another LCE fan looking for more tips and learning as I go.
This is a pretty clean install and extremely detailed on how and what to expect. Great video! My dad ages ago had a similar p'up truck and had I been more interested back then, I would have loved to do the same thing as you did to yours. It was a fun 4 banger and one of those trucks that you could just toss whatever in the back and not really worry about it. I am from Hawaii so back then that truck was a beach truck whenever I had my hands on it. I loved the burn-out dude at the end, did not expect to see that! LOL, spin them tires!! Thanks for sharing!!
I added this Header to my 1989 SR5 Pickup with a Flowmaster muffler, I also purchased a LCE larger valve head (smog legal) and modified my airbox increasing the airflow intake, my truck is pretty fun to drive now, Its screamer for sure, next I will add a lighter flywheel, then I'm done!
Northwest Offroads header is tri-y Better for lower rpm use. LC is a racecar engine place and few people drive their 22R at 4,000-6,000 rpm that the 4 into 1 is engineered for.
I'm betting the torque increase is from having the back pressure from the cat, but I'm sure this exhaust helped all around. I just ordered the header kit for my 91
Well, the long tube header is longer and drops lower than the stock exhaust manifold as well as having a 2 1/4 in collector so it will not match up to a stock exhaust system. So I would say you ought to do the entire system at the same time
Well one thing to remember is that Weber's have a different intake. Weber's do have the potential to make more power and will shift the power band but they tend to require a lot of adjustment. I stuck with the stock carb mostly for convenience.
Have you ever had issues with your exhaust hitting the torsion bar, right after the header flange? I’m installing same setup and the exhaust seems pretty close to the torsion bar.
Yeah I have. I'm also having issues where it's hitting the rear shock. I need to make some new mounts to get it better positioned but recently have not had time
You're right, I've had it off for a while. I had to replace the rotating assembly at 321k and on the removal a bolt snapped. I knew I was going wo th this exhaust eventually so I left it off
These indestructible 22 R and the 22RE we’ll always make that sound because of the solid lifters hitting the rocker control arms it’s the nature of the beast to sound like that even with perfect Value adjustments
Have you had any issues with not having a heat shield on the headers, like the OEM exhaust manifold? My other question is how was the fit on U-bolt near the header joint by the bell housing
So there are two locations for the o2 sensor. One in the pipe where I added the block off plate and the other in the extended tube that I cut down. Now, I added the block off plate because I currently have the stock 2bl carburetor with no o2 sensor being used. However, I may be adding a different intake in the future and will need to add an o2 sensor
Could I just cut and use the pipe instead of putting a cat in ? Would that make it louder or no? Got a 92 single cab with lce headers and I’d like mine to be loud
Yes, I think you could just bolt it together without the cat. It's a high flow cat so mine is still pretty throaty but without one I'd imagine it would be even louder.
Yes! I believe it should be long enough for the extra can but definitely for 4x4. Link to product-www.lceperformance.com/Pro-Flow-Exhaust-System-22R-RE-3VZ-2WD-4WD-1985-p/1042000.htm
@@redcaddy99 I would consider these long tubes considering how long the pipes are leading the collector. If you're interested in this header, LCE makes them for 2wd and 4wd applications. Just make sure you have the correct one selected
Hey I haven’t installed yet..exaust manifold stud broken off in head. I plan on using arp studs.. Just brought new 31 in tires noticed a drop in power I’m desperate to install the header..I also has other lce goodies block off plates
The 22r is around 100 hp. I have not dyno tested it but stock is around 95 hp and the long tube header and exhaust should free up a few more hp's. The 22r is not really a power house of an engine but they run through war zones and have really long life's with a lot of reliability
I dont think so. 22r's are notoriously noisy but I suspect during the filming it was valves and perhaps lower oil in the engine(?). I routinely check the valves and keep the valve cover from being too tight where it can cause the chain to slap the valve cover.
Cat back system www.lceperformance.com/Pro-Flow-Exhaust-System-22R-RE-3VZ-2WD-4WD-1985-p/1042000.htm Street header www.lceperformance.com/LCE-Street-Header-Kit-2WD-22R-RE-1985-1995-Pickup-p/1041030.htm
High quality video. Excellent shots up under the truck! Thanks for showing us how it is done.
Thanks for the compliments!
I don’t have a pickup, I have a Celica with a 22r, so I’m here because not many people make content for our cars. Probably gonna start my own channel. This is inspiring. Thanks man!
Did you start a Chanel I have a CELICA to ?
I did he header on my 86 Toyota 2wd. Loved it!! But I had my exhaust done at a shop back home . Castro’s in Parker Az!! I used a borla xs 2 1/4 muffler with pipe to the lr with a tip . Cost me 350 installed ! I love it!
Between the valves and the timing chain guide, hard to hear that exhaust
needs valve adjustment bad... Would have certainly been better time spent if you are worried about reliability... lol
Yup that dreaded timing belt guide sounds terrible mine sounds like that atm getting ready to change all that up soon
That's just how 22r motor sounds. If you know, you know🤷🏽♂️
I recently picked up a ‘93 pickup with low mileage and am trying to go through a do my due diligence in replacing parts and restoring vehicle. I have been reading about the timing chain guide being the Achilles heel of the 22R/22RE engines. How do I know if I need to replace timing chain guide?
@@kalaibeck2690 you can see the guides if you take off the valve cover, super easy to check and when I did I saw that mine were long gone so it saved me from engine failure
Finally came across a pretty detailed bolt on assembly. Ive been frustrated trying to figure out my 94 Lux set up. I have the LCE pro headers and was gona have the rest welded but didnt have the idea to just go full bolt on. Thank you for posting bro. Excellent vid and luv to see more on your build. Just another LCE fan looking for more tips and learning as I go.
This is a pretty clean install and extremely detailed on how and what to expect. Great video! My dad ages ago had a similar p'up truck and had I been more interested back then, I would have loved to do the same thing as you did to yours. It was a fun 4 banger and one of those trucks that you could just toss whatever in the back and not really worry about it. I am from Hawaii so back then that truck was a beach truck whenever I had my hands on it. I loved the burn-out dude at the end, did not expect to see that! LOL, spin them tires!! Thanks for sharing!!
Can you post more Toyota content??? This really helped me out a lot !
I added this Header to my 1989 SR5 Pickup with a Flowmaster muffler, I also purchased a LCE larger valve head
(smog legal) and modified my airbox increasing the airflow intake, my truck is pretty fun to drive now, Its screamer for sure, next I will add a lighter flywheel, then I'm done!
Awesome video. I've been wanting to do the same on my 85 and now I will.
Great video man. Congrats with the new exhaust set up. I'm thinking of going with LCE's headers in the future!
Thanks! I appreciate it. I'm really happy with the full system
Northwest Offroads header is tri-y
Better for lower rpm use.
LC is a racecar engine place and few people drive their 22R at 4,000-6,000 rpm that the 4 into 1 is engineered for.
I just let the muffler fall off naturally.
Perfect!
Mine did
Mine fell on my face. No cat or muffler atm.. Crazy backfires lel (:
SPACE TRUCKER yeah, way to go!
thats how yuo git r done i just added more pipe after mine fell off
Phukkin Straight Pimp my Man!!! Keep on Truckin!!!!
Thanks! This is probably the best comment I've received 😅
Great vid man, it definitely helps for my minitruck build am working on.
Glad to hear it helps!
The burn out made this video bro 🤙🏾 Sounds wicked can’t wait to have mine sound like this. Maybe a mid can upgrade video? Or duel carburetors? 😅
Thanks! Yeah I have some plans for the intake coming up
Excellent Workmanship, studious methodical and quality work. Sounds great great video!
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words. I'm happy that the content I make is being enjoyed
Toyotas have an amazing engine sound, itd unlike any other car.
Awesome job. Been looking to do the same to my 85
I love it when an exhaust comes together ;)
It's a beautiful thing
Appreciate this. Now I know what imma put on mine
I want more Toyota videos!
13:49 is what I came for. Maybe you too.
Hell yeah thankyou bro im definitely doing this. Killer video
The truck sounds great! I just had a quick question. Did you replace the cat converter and buy a new one? If so, which one did you buy?
Magnaflow
Says it in the beginning
I'm betting the torque increase is from having the back pressure from the cat, but I'm sure this exhaust helped all around. I just ordered the header kit for my 91
Love the vid and your truck mate!
Thanks man!
*_That thing sounds sick_*
I hope you do a driving video of it real soon
Yes, definitely happening. Working on a shorter, more cinematic film
Fantastic video thanks buddy
Do you think you need to get it tuned? I got an 93 pickup and want to grab one
Is it possible to just replace the header and do the rest of the exhaust at a later date? Or do you pretty much have to do it all in one go?
Well, the long tube header is longer and drops lower than the stock exhaust manifold as well as having a 2 1/4 in collector so it will not match up to a stock exhaust system. So I would say you ought to do the entire system at the same time
Does the check engine light come on because it has no o2 sensors. I definitely can’t do this in California
Was the tube that went into the manifold and egr tube and do you need a plate to block that off or does it come with it or it’s a non issue?
those headers with flowmaster is what im gonna do
Is it good to get a weber carburetor or stay with the stock carburetor
Well one thing to remember is that Weber's have a different intake. Weber's do have the potential to make more power and will shift the power band but they tend to require a lot of adjustment. I stuck with the stock carb mostly for convenience.
@@OldDatsun thank you I appreciate it love the videos too very helpful
Thinking about doing the same for my 4x4 22re. How long did the breakdown to install take? Looks like a solid weekend or one long day job?
So what about the EGR? Looks like you just have it open in the bay with the new header on. No cap/plug?
Currently uncapped but there are upgrades coming for the intake which does away with the system EGR entirely
I didn’t see a CAT originally on this truck. But u put a used one on. Does the system come with a CAT
Ahhh yes, I too have used the "knee hold-up" method.
What type of attachment is that for the grinder to use on the pipe?
Where’s the link for the exausht
Have you ever had issues with your exhaust hitting the torsion bar, right after the header flange? I’m installing same setup and the exhaust seems pretty close to the torsion bar.
Yeah I have. I'm also having issues where it's hitting the rear shock. I need to make some new mounts to get it better positioned but recently have not had time
You think they make these for a ka24de in 98 frontier 2wd
Hello! excellent video, I have two toyotas but it's a pity that in Mexico you can not get those parts at a reasonable price, anyway , nice job man!
Thanks! Is there a tax on the parts being imported to Mexico?
yes, and the shipping is also expensive, well this by ebay, some day man
@@jorgecarreon7934 I wish you luck!
@@jorgecarreon7934 they're not reasonably priced In the states either. $500+ I have a Doug thorley tri-y.
Did you not have a heat shield, I didn't see the removal?
You're right, I've had it off for a while. I had to replace the rotating assembly at 321k and on the removal a bolt snapped. I knew I was going wo th this exhaust eventually so I left it off
Great video and truck!
Thanks!
Hey man it’s been 3 years lol but by any chance do you know where I can get that catalytic converter ?
Nice exhaust. Sounds like it needs a valve lash adjustment though
Thanks! You're right about the valves 😅
These indestructible 22 R and the 22RE we’ll always make that sound because of the solid lifters hitting the rocker control arms it’s the nature of the beast to sound like that even with perfect Value adjustments
@@OldDatsun which one did you get do you have the link
Do the 20r and the 22r have matching header fitment?
I think the ports will align but I don't think the studs are in the same location. I don't have a 20r so I'm not able to confirm
How much did you pay for the complete exhaust? Cat included?
$1,200….$500 for headers….$450 for exhaust system…..and $200 for the cat.
How much did these headers cost? And is putting new studs necessary or did you do that out of personal preference?
Need to whip the old feeler gauge out and adjust the valve clearances, but cool video!
How is it at like 3.5k RPM on the highway? I imagine the drone is unbearable
did the new studs come with the headers?
No, I believe they're sold separately
Have you had any issues with not having a heat shield on the headers, like the OEM exhaust manifold? My other question is how was the fit on U-bolt near the header joint by the bell housing
I have had no issues with not having a heat shield. Wrapping the header is an option but I've heard it can also potentially damage the header.
Does this come with the cat converter?
Yup!
@@OldDatsun mine didnt
@@boostedgt4438 Have you contacted LCE? I'm not sure if they have changed this package since I purchased it.
love it!
Thank you!
I noticed you eliminated the O2 sensor. What is the purpose behind doing that?
So there are two locations for the o2 sensor. One in the pipe where I added the block off plate and the other in the extended tube that I cut down. Now, I added the block off plate because I currently have the stock 2bl carburetor with no o2 sensor being used. However, I may be adding a different intake in the future and will need to add an o2 sensor
Someone stole my cat converter. Maybe it was this dude. 😀😀😀😀
I have no comment
Cant have shit in Detroit smh
Did you get the catalytic converter from lce ?
It's a Magnaflow but it comes with the kit
why did you block off your o2 sensors?
I didn't have one. I had the 2 barrel carburetor
Could I just cut and use the pipe instead of putting a cat in ? Would that make it louder or no? Got a 92 single cab with lce headers and I’d like mine to be loud
Yes, I think you could just bolt it together without the cat. It's a high flow cat so mine is still pretty throaty but without one I'd imagine it would be even louder.
@@OldDatsun Rahja bro, Just ordered mine today! gonna bolt mine together no cat 🤙🏾
Yes! I love it.
Just got my headers in from lce.. going get the aluminum harmonic balancer from them
Timing chain guide rattle needs attention
Dude I have a 86 for19 years and it has 308,000 thank you for the video
About how much is this kit?
Do you know if these parts will fit a 1984 Toyota pick up also?
LCE Performance has parts specific for the '84. I know the chassis is slightly different but they do carry components for those pickups
O ok thanks man I’ll check it out
Frame is narrower for 2wd.
They gave separate models for 4wd and 2wd. Just make sure to get the right one.
Would this exhaust system work with the Nissan D21 Hardbody? mines a 1996.
I wouldn't think so. The header is specific to the 22r head and is made to fit this specific chassis. Same goes for the exhaust system
Yer it fits I’ve done it everything is the same even down the the burnout,
@@OldDatsun The head on the ka24 has the same pattern as the 22r head.. Plus the guy above also said it fits.. Imma try it.
great it's amazing
those higher range RPMS? the 22re Redlines at 5500rpm haha
Work for 22r 88 4wd extra cab pickup truck ?
Yes! I believe it should be long enough for the extra can but definitely for 4x4.
Link to product-www.lceperformance.com/Pro-Flow-Exhaust-System-22R-RE-3VZ-2WD-4WD-1985-p/1042000.htm
I'm going buy it but but you didn't put the catalytic converter numbers that you use. But video 📹 is helpful 👍
What size catalytic converter is that?
12.5 with 2in flange LCE part # 1043011 LC engineering are the best for 22r parts.
What year is your truck???
1988
How long did it take to jus install the headers?
Not long, I spent maybe the most time slowly setting it into position so as to not scratch the ceramic coating
10 minutes once you've done it a few times.
stock?
hi where are you buy it ？
Link is in the description
Dang dude that thing was melting tires lol. I noticed both tires spiining, did you weld your gears?
No, only one tire was turning. Still have an open differential. I am looking into an LSD though
@@OldDatsun please do. They make anything rear wheel drive more fun. :)
@@Super1337357 Totally agree! Need to start looking up some parts
Have long tube for 93 4wd pickup
Cool! How does it sound? Also, carb or efi?
rags 1977 what long tube are you using? I have 94 4wd pickup.
@@OldDatsun are these considered long tubes also?
@@redcaddy99 I would consider these long tubes considering how long the pipes are leading the collector. If you're interested in this header, LCE makes them for 2wd and 4wd applications. Just make sure you have the correct one selected
Hey I haven’t installed yet..exaust manifold stud broken off in head.
I plan on using arp studs..
Just brought new 31 in tires noticed a drop in power I’m desperate to install the header..I also has other lce goodies block off plates
so wait you mean to tell me that gab in my exhaust is where a cat is supposed to be
without flexible pipe?
No flex pipe
I want a bigger muffler and change the tip to something smaller!
Love the truck sounds like timing chain needs to be replace
What makes you think that?
Listen to the rattle when you give it gas ...
@@81recinosright, that's the valves which needed adjusting. Timing chain currently only has 20,000 miles so it should be in good health
How much hp does it make?
The 22r is around 100 hp. I have not dyno tested it but stock is around 95 hp and the long tube header and exhaust should free up a few more hp's. The 22r is not really a power house of an engine but they run through war zones and have really long life's with a lot of reliability
Old Datsun I wonder how much hp you could get with performance exhaust and intake
@@elliottschneider5072 I'm curious as well and am interested in pursuing some intake upgrades
Chain slap?
I dont think so. 22r's are notoriously noisy but I suspect during the filming it was valves and perhaps lower oil in the engine(?). I routinely check the valves and keep the valve cover from being too tight where it can cause the chain to slap the valve cover.
How much the kit run for?
I have links to their page in the comments. Price also varies with added parts.
@@OldDatsun got it thanks, hopefully i can burn rubber to
@@svillareal81 Yeah, get on it!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
hello greetings, I have one of those but year 1997 when I take it in third I jalonea that you think it can be thanks in advance
Wey como puedo pedir ese sistema de escape
My Spanish is rusty but I believe you're asking where to find this exhaust system. It's from LCE Performance. Link is in the description
Looks like your catalytic converter is installed at least 3 inches too far back. Should have cut some off front pipe.
Price
Cat back system www.lceperformance.com/Pro-Flow-Exhaust-System-22R-RE-3VZ-2WD-4WD-1985-p/1042000.htm
Street header www.lceperformance.com/LCE-Street-Header-Kit-2WD-22R-RE-1985-1995-Pickup-p/1041030.htm
Just bought the full system, getting ancy waiting and its only been 10 minutes😂
I love that excitment waiting for new parts to arrive
More videos;)
Working at it :)
Still pass smog?
SMOKE THEM WHITEWALLS!!!!!!! HAHAHAHHA
Get the Weber carb
Not stainless at all ... Its aluminazed coating
Why would you be stressed about durability. It’s a Toyota Truck!
Make more videos :(
the knock sound :(
Kicker
He put a cat back on?... and you lost me