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I had only loyal, I have more or less all 3 now. I got money (top 5%) and bought attractiveness (personal trainer, skincare, hairdresser, clothes, etc.) with average face and height so effectively 2.5. She liked me at my lowest, there's no chance I'll turn my back on her now that I got the others.
HoeMath also covered this concept but in a much less elegant way than Dr. O The male triangle (can only have two): Hot Rich NO hoes Female triangle (can only have two but often less) Hot Not crazy Single
it happens to the best of them - Tom Brady, Mathew Stafford, Will Smith, etc... It's not a sure thing as women's fantaciful thoughts/romanticism changes. Loyalty for men is based on principle, purpose, logic. Women's, love, fantasy, thrill, romanticism. It's not foundationally strong, and is superficial in the grand scheme of things.
Rich is correct. Women have become insane and the only things pleasing are short term. They can’t hold a coherent thought beyond the next emotional distraction
Facts. Truer words have never been spoken. Important to add the tale of how the story ends independent of how many of these prized virtues you possess @entrepreneursincars
It's funny listening to Orion use high falutin terminology to explain things the PUA space figured out 15 years ago... "You have to remove all negativity and annoyance from your tone when communicating with women because she will amplify it and hyperfocus on that tone over the content of your speech." = "They can't take criticism so just talk to them like kids."
@Eagle-e4l It took me years to develop that confidence in him. And yes, I've never known someone more dependable, more stable and trustworthy than him. Of course, I'm conscious no human being is totally infallible
I think a man having all three is possible but improbable. It's like a woman being a perfect 10 and not being totally nuts. Hypothetically they exist, but they're so rare they practically don't, so don't expect it.
There's a fair share of these men around, but they all got taken when they got rich or attractive (but continued and became the other one), and you don't have a chance with them cause they're loyal
the "Prince Charmings" get married earlier in life (hence the "all the good ones are taken" claim from women). They may not start out very successful but they can grow to be. Still, most will not stay Prince Charmings. They will likely become unattractive or disloyal. Older, unmarried men might be attractive and successful, but they have no real incentive to be loyal.
Women like that do exist, I have a married ex-actress friend who falls in that category but to get there she needed to fail at the acting part to get her head on straight and she ended up with a husband in the who's average in looks but who dotes on her. Another option is the ugly duckling, someone who was average in high school but that matured into a swan when she was older. I know a married woman like that too and she's a beautiful and dedicated wife and mother and ten times as attractive at 38 as she was as a teenager. However you note that neither of these ladies are single. That's because someone like that doesn't stay on the market long, the window is very, very small to find them, sometimes measured in just days.
"Ladies, this one is for you ..." followed immediately by every woman closing their browser while the men eagerly wait to hear what the Dr. has to say.
BS. This is what you think with that male brain of yours completely incapable of relating. Women will certainly not "close their browser" to even an enemy's point of view. If anything, they will listen to what the "enemy" has to say so they can get into his mind and play him. You have zero understanding of the female mind.
Is it though? Given than men are more inclined to let things be and women more inclined to be idealistic, I would think women know this by default and want to make it better. So telling this to them won't be a surprise that leads to an awakening to human nature like men have been experiencing, they are more likely to take it as "don't expect much from me because I'm a man and here's a video about it". A Red Pill for women would be something that makes them finally give up on their idealistic views of what people could become, accepting what people are. Nobody has come up with that shit yet 😂
@@nikeisagreekgoddess4135 Nope, this is it. Most women live in delusion land where they will get rich hot dude that will simp for them for eternity because tik-tok told them they're worth it.
"Most men have had the experience of sincerely pledging their love and devotion to a woman only to be passed over for a man of who is either more attractive or more succesful. This is how MEN learn from WOMEN that of the three goods, that LOYATY is the least desirable" damn, this should be its own entire video.
Ladies listen to him. He knows what he’s talking about. It took me a long time to learn and finally realize a lot of the things he teaches. As far as this video goes…..100% correct. When I was younger I also bought into the Prince Charming bs. There is no Prince Charming. Cold hard facts. The faster you realize this the better. In my experience I’ve been lucky to have two out of the three. Currently, just like he stated, I have one. On a really good day I sometimes feel like it might be two. But I don’t want to jinx myself. There are no such thing as unicorns. You have anything you want, but you can’t have everything you want.
A few days ago, a podcast host was asked if he considered himself Top Tier. He answered "Yes"... and when asked to describe what makes him Top Tier, he mentioned his height and income. He is 6'4 and makes well over 100k a year. That dude has been dragged all over social media by women and yet, what Dr. Orion said at 5:38 is precisely why he can boldly claim he is a top tier man. He would NEVER have come to the conclusion that he is a Top Tier man if not for the positive reinforcements he has consistently received from women for merely being 6'4 and a high income earner. Women through their actions have told HIM that he is a Top Tier man. Regardless of how much they claim to value loyalty above all else, if you look at their dating preferences, you'll see that the most wildly desirable archetype of man is the playboy. James Bond, Christian Grey (50 Shades Of Grey), Bruce Wayne, NBA athletes etc. If women want men to value loyalty as much as they claim, start rewarding loyal men more than you reward playboys.
This is all so true. And for those that say they’re all 3. It’s proof that either you’re not or your don’t get it. Because if you were all the 2 of attractive and rich, you’d be on celebrity like status for a man. Leonardo Decaprio, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady. Tell me just how “loyal” you think those guys are. Especially in their prime. Tiger woods is a great example. He was not attractive until he became rich and famous. Then loyalty went right out of the window. That’s what he’s saying. When you have 2, you have tons of options which makes loyalty next to impossible.
I was laughing my ass off when the Tiger Woods scandal went off. OH WOW, shocker. Not a single man in the history of mankind would be loyal in his shoes. And please, if you're not an international A+ celeb, please dont tell me otherwise. Flocks of 10s always trying to get with you aggressively... You're gonna indulge.
“There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs.” Thomas Sowell. Applies to human mating and reproduction just as much as it applies to economics. Educated women who refuse to settle will find themselves single and childless. I think this is what is driving the decline in marriage and birth rates. Educated women want it ALL.
be a stay at home mom who doesn't need to work and can enjoy middle class lifestyle till kids are grown ups is that ALL. The thing is while very common just 50 years ago, it's a fantasy today. There are no families I know where only one person works and this provides sense of stability that can last for two or three decades. Empire is falling apart and this is not women nor men fault.
@@paulb7207 most women don't want to stay at home, look the trad-wife shaming online. I do agree that this isn't particularly men's or women's fault though, the economy just got out of our hands
The problem with all of these channels is that they cater to an audience of disaffected men, instead of psychotic women. The women are on TikTok, not listening to UA-cam psychologists - no matter how much value they might provide. Advice is only as effective as your audience
A perfect marriage or relationship is an illusion; there's no universal playbook for making them work. What's effective for one couple may not apply to another. Nevertheless, I've come to understand that there's always a solution to be found. Half a decade ago, my wife and I faced such trials in our marriage that divorce seemed inevitable. Yet, through perseverance and determination, we navigated through the rough waters and emerged stronger, reunited, and more resilient
There is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is shelly renee white..
This video explains to me the success of 50 Shades of Grey. Woman, usually want it all, not only one of the three, options, and in that movie the guy is attractive and rich, but finally he succumbs for the girl and become loyal. It’s a Prince Charming Disney movie for adults basically.
@simplastic it's real though, but women want a guy to be rich already instead of supporting him. And rich is subjective. I may not own a million, but i have land, trees, and animals we can live off of.
This captivating video triggers a flood of painful memories from the end of my 6 year relationship just 3 months ago. The woman I loved with all my heart chose to walk away, leaving me grappling with an insurmountable sense of loss. Despite my relentless efforts to salvage what we had, I'm left feeling disillusioned and unable to imagine a future without her. Despite my attempts to move on, I'm drawn to express my deep-seated longing for her here.
The struggle to release someone dear to your heart is undeniably arduous. I empathize, having experienced a similar circumstance when my 6 year relationship concluded. Refusing to accept defeat, I pursued every conceivable avenue to reclaim his affection. Eventually, I sought the assistance of a spiritual counselor, whose wisdom and intervention played a pivotal role in reuniting us.
The equivalent of Prince Charming (a guy who has all three) would be a woman who is stunningly beautiful, loving and socially masterful, and has undying loyalty. Definitely someone in a movie.
Interesting perspective! It’s true that understanding the balance of these traits can really help navigate relationships. Each archetype brings something different to the table, and recognizing what you value most can make all the difference.
Your frameworks are masterful and I feel this would be immensely helpful to women. The only thing I worry about is the pitch: it's direct and harsh. I think a softened intro would get more women to listen.
This advice is great as it pertains to the nuances of Male/Female dynamics, but it doesn’t address the root issue. The root of all the dissatisfaction between the sexes is community. Carrot & Stick. Communities that punish separation and reward staying together are the most successful. Even the most well intentioned advice will not benefit a person in a bad environment.
I'm an intj (I know pseudoscience, but you get my point) female and I've yet to hear you say many things I didn't observe myself. It amazes me how many people don't seem to innately pick up on these things that some of us just know. I missed my calling as a psychologist, I'm happy you got to be one. Great channel, thanks for the videos.
@steveos5112 My point was if you ask a woman the things she looks for, loyalty would be buried on the list. Instead they got for superficial things like looks, money, etc. If loyalty was what they wanted most, they would have loyal men. But loyalty isnt exciting.
Women want a man who is rich attractive, loyal and compliant with whatever orders she gives him, usually to his detriment. That’s the missing part from your video.
you have bad taste in women. I just don't talk and don't meet with women who treat me with no respect. Have a rule like this. Then enforce it. If you can't -- that's because you know deep down begging is your only option to get to the pu55y. And whose fault is that?
What a good video! It left me with a black pilled thought however. The thought is: No matter what archetype man you are there is nothing you can do to keep a woman happy long term unless she is self-aware of her nature. When a woman gets into a relationship with a man she at least instinctively assessed his attributes and found them acceptable to her. But, with time, she gets used to them in the same way a drug user gets used to their drug of choice and this inevitably leads to a decrease in her perceived value of the man, leading to dissatisfaction and dissolution of the relationship bc she’s no longer interested. She now needs more than what you have to offer or something different. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about his loyalty, attractiveness or wealth, the same thing happens. Even if you are Prince Charming, the woman will get used to you and then no longer swoon over you like she used to do because she got used to you.
Yea this is exactly what happens but Orion already gave the solution to this problem in a previous video. The solution he said was perpetual work for the man, which I think translates to personal growth. Never stop learning, pick up a new hobby, join a club, read books, get a different haircut, run a marathon, become spiritual, etc. I think you get the idea. This would be enough work to keep the woman emotionally invested in the relationship because her man is constantly evolving. This benefits both, the man grows in all directions, and the woman gets her emotional fix that she needs to keep her around
Orion, firstly… half way through your book and it is most informative! Second, I will not disagree with your perspective however as a woman who has been lucky with her mates, you can have all three if you yourself has self confidence in what you want and who you are. With that in your mind, make a list of the partner you want and then live that life, be that person and be open to meeting people who fit your goals. It is surprising how wonderful life can be if you are wonderful inside. Thank you Orion for being you!
Men with all three is EXTREMELY rare, like ultra-legendary-mythical unicorn. To tame and keep such a creature women MUST be some unique-legendary-unicornWhisperer herself. But dont bother, coming across such men is almost imposible.
It takes a lot of effort for a man to be rich and attractive. Thing is - when a man has lots of options, he won’t have much loyalty unless he comes across a dime of a woman 😉
Love that you, in passing, disabuse men of the notion that a lack of options equals loyalty. Just like frugality requires affluence. Having no money doesn't make you frugal, it makes you broke. And having no women doesn't make you loyal, it makes you desperate.
Hi! Everyone on here 😊🌄. Dr. O it depends on both men and women how they define or their perception on what is rich and what is attractive . On loyalty: people become loyal to whom they want to be loyal and there's still loyal men and women. Loyalists still exist 😊.
@sanich0811 Dude is still attractive. Unless he's dating women 15-20 years younger than himself, what you said has no relevance to the dating pool he is drawing from. You have to adjust your reference point to match the circumstance.
Fun, spot-on, thanks Orion! :) Will send this one several Woe-men. I can relate, and confirm: Men evolve (possibly). When young athlete (muay thai competitor), I was attractive, and loyal. Later, I was (say, reasonably by Hungarian standards) wealthy, still attractive, but loyalty ... welll... to several women simultaneously. (I kept quality high and only went for an even better one,). Later, I became less wealthy, more attractive (more mature, I was a sexy trainer guy, mountain climber), and gained loyalty back. Nowadays wealth is coming back, I am single and not approach women, my socaliazing has gone away for some years. Will see what comes next.
You are correct. Self control is your greatest free asset. And many women will come just because you look good. Healthy and fit. Pushups and running are free. Everything else is inherited or luck. If you know hard work, if you know self control, success will be yours. Not only in the dating world.
@P.90.603 I've not been "run through " by these men. Most of the relationships were mutual. And most of them were friends that either had feelings for me or vice versa. Understand the concept.
@P.90.603 I'm sure you are a chronically single guy who is hiding behind his phone and doesn't have a girlfriend. Cos the way you talk is questionable.
This is the funniest one yet. There was a time when I inherited a significant amount of money and lived a very hedonistic lifestyle for a couple years. I don’t regret it one bit.
Great video, A month ago, my five-year relationship came to an end. I really can't stop thinking about the love of my life, who made the decision to leave me. I've done everything in my power to win him back, but it's all in vain, and I can't imagine my life with anyone else. I genuinely miss him and just can't stop thinking about him, even though I've tried my hardest to stop thinking about him. I'm not sure why I'm saying this here.
It's hard to say goodbye to someone you love; I experienced this when my 12-year relationship ended. However, I couldn't just let him go; instead, I tried everything to win him back. Eventually, I turned to a spiritual counsellor for assistance, and he was able to help me win him back.
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I bet the next episode is for men. The topic is "Women can provide Great Sex, Great Food & Home or Great Sanity. But you can choose only two." Something in those terms.
The loyal man is always punished the worst...especially in this modern economy. And the reason that the women can only get 2 max is because for centuries, and power dynamics, this is how they have made men to be by rewarding one of the three but loyalty the least. It is part of the social contract, a union.
Not sure that I follow. You say that being loyal means nothing if you do not really have any admirers, that is to say, if you do not quite have your loyalty tested. By this logic, we have 2 base options left, which are rich or handsome.
It sounds like you follow just fine If you have no options, you're not really loyal. You're just taking what you can get and all you can get is the one. Loyalty means having options and sticking with one If attractive women are hitting you up left and right, and you're only entertaining YOUR woman, you're loyal. It's impossible to be loyal unless your loyalty is being tested. And most people are only about as loyal as their options. And no one is loyal unconditionally. It's physically impossible to be unconditionally loyal. Loyalty, especially emotional loyalty, has to be earned
@tdaye6978 I sort of agree with that. However, being loyal can mean that you are not purposefully looking for someone's else attention or affairs since you already have your woman/wife, regardless of your looks. I am saying that there is flaw in base logic of his concept presenting 3 categories because of the points he made.
I'm rich and loyal, and it don't help get attractive women. I'm starting to think loyalty is the biggest turn off to women. And they're not altogether wrong. I'm loyal because of sexual insecurities. I give loyalty so that I might also demand loyalty to make up for sexual dysfunction and women can smell it a mile off. Still, the video both gives me a little hope and leaves me confirmed in my belief that I'm probably not missing much in my particular circumstances.
Nah that’s not true about loyalty. Your insecurity is the problem. Insecurity is an unattractive trait to women. If you have more inhibitions about having sex than the woman you are dating I have bad news for you. A man who suggests himself to wait for sex till commitment is almost always hiding something. And its so obvious since 99% of single men wouldnt miss a chance.
@@_cara_7693 I'm not arguing with you. It's exactly as it is. I struggle with PE, which makes me very sexually insecure. The truth is many men do, and I'm sure it's kind of obvious to a lot of women, which makes us unattractive for the purposes of this video. Nevertheless, for an attractive woman that would work through it with me I would certainly offer loyalty. I don't expect an attractive woman to do so, as she has the choice of every man she comes across. It's the same for me not wanting to bother working through the problems of a fat woman that might be attractive if a man would help her work through her insecurities and get into shape. I don't hate on them for it. I think the reason apparently rich and attractive men would offer loyalty is because of insecurities like mine. Indeed I'd say a fairly large proportion of successful men are successful precisely because they hope their hard work and success will make up for a perceived lack in another part of their life, quite probably sexual.
@@_cara_7693 That's precisely why I said I was rich and loyal, not attractive because my insecurities make me unattractive. I don't think it's 99% of single men though. A lot of men are sexually insecure, either because of PE, size or ED. I do sometimes get a little frustrated that you can do everything within your control to be the vest version of yourself you can be - I made a lot of money doing something very socially beneficial, built my house with my own hands, planted a woodland, play a mean fiddle, workout 6 times a week, surf some big waves, take responsibility willingly whenever I need to - but if you don't measure up in bed, none of it much matters. Never mind, there are gold diggers to somewhat make up for it. Life isn't supposed to be fair.
What I've learned about relationships: if both parties believe their partner is the best they can attract or at least in the ball park of the best, then all is well. If either one comes to believe they can do 'significantly' better, then things start going sideways
Exactly, I got lucky once and dated a super hottie. She told me that she will never commit to me. She was hot and the sex was good. Great arm candy too. I didn't mind her seeing/sleeping with other guys because I couldn't do better. It's a trade-off I was willing to live with. I rather drive a Ferrari with high mileage than a hooptie with low mileage.
Are you guys actually listening to this though? And if so. What are the takeaways? Or what’s different? Cuz every woman I meet still eventually wants loyalty despite giving the other 2. Not at first. Happy to go on a ride. But eventually steps off cuz it ain’t owned by her. In search of a lesser option she can command and control that she doesn’t like as much
I’m 38, 5’7, and weigh 155 with an athletic body. I make north of $200k and aiming to make my first $100k month. I think I’m attractive enough and make decent income with a high moral standard. The difficulty for me in dating is finding a great girl. I don’t have a problem with getting women to want to go home with me, even on first dates. I’m just not interested in hook up culture. I’ve learned my lesson with getting in bed too soon. Looking for a humble, modest, and beautiful girl with her own charm.
He does consultations; I would get one if I were rich. They are about $900 USD. It would help if you hit him up for One and figure out how to get a girlfriend 😅
Try church, seriously, even if you aren't religious, they are better than the average there. For all the flaws Christianity has and there are plenty, at least it's a moral system that tries to constrain the worst parts of both male and female nature (sexual infidelity, divorcing to level up etc)
You look like a prime candidate for a passport bro. If you're set on marriage and family, just noping out of femini world and finding a traditional woman in a traditional country could save you a ton of time and headaches.
I don't know about this, man. This just sounds like a very intelligent sounding excuse to enable yourself to be disloyal because if you think it through, there really is no reason you can't be all three.
A man with all the attributes ( rich , attractive and loyal ) would need a very good incentive to do so . . . Regardless of whether or not the men are being scumbags , that's what most women respond to ...when loyal guys are rewarded by women , then there will be more guys bearing flowers than badboys
A very interesting video with lots of compelling information. One thing that struck me though was that the virtue of "attractiveness" 's the most delicate because it is frequently subjective. A man might be very handsome but over the course of a relationship his appearance matters less and less to his partner (unless he actually begins to lose his looks). Of course attractiveness does factor into loyalty... If a man is objectively handsome but his mate has begun to take his good looks for granted, they are still a valuable commodity in seeking other partners. Wealth is objective. Even though wealth is relative (because there is always somebody with more) it is a genuine asset that people do not become bored of... In fact they often become dependent on it. Loyalty is also objective. Either he is loyal or he is not. However, loyalty is also the easiest of the three to fake. I think in many cases "loyalty" doesn't really matter to a woman if she has a man with wealth and attractiveness. She doesn't want to know he's been disloyal but as long as she doesn't have to deal with disloyalty she is probably willing to just participate in the illusion that her mate IS loyal.
I’ve been listening to your audiobook this week. It’s been immensely helpful for me in understanding my avoidant partner and his unwillingness to commit. I realize now that he’s merely a “passenger” in life, wandering the docks with no true ambition to take on passengers of his own. In light of this, I finally realize why my attempts at securing a relationship with him have been unsuccessful. In short, I’m out of his league, and he knows he can’t give me what I need. It sucks but it is what it is. Thanks to you, Dr. Taraban, I finally feel prepared to move on from this pseudo-relationship and pair up with a man who’s both capable and willing.
Thats a nice theory for your ego indeed. And who knows perhaps its true. Perhaps my powerball ticket is the right one. But let me tell you, every man who read your comment laughed. We have no problem commiting to quality woman... Especially if the guy isnt that incredible.
@alexandrodl1371 Exactly! As if one single woman deliberately would associate herself with a mate of lower value (even the association with same-level men is unlikely).
lol y’all are in denial. The guy I’ve been with is emotionally broken by a woman who robbed him of 10 years of his goals, money, and ambitions, only to cheat and have a kid with another man. He’s already told me I would be his ideal partner if he hadn’t sworn to himself he’d never love again. It has nothing to do with my quality and everything to do with his baggage, and his unwillingness to work towards healing. But I’m clearly wasting my time and energy explaining this to red pill incels on the internet.
@@Im____ltm Hey like I said, perhaps you're right, truly. But he said the incredible cliche ' Its not you, its me'. Just the easiest, most basic and easy to say reason for a man to stop putting any efforts or end it, with the least drama possible. Im sure all men who had pretty much any success with women have said it twice. Possibly we even tought once or twice that being respecfully honest would be appreciated earlier in our dating life. Sounds like a joke when I reread it. With a decent portion of the female population ' Its not you, its me' is the very best way to go about no commiting more.
If you think of this as priorities for male vs females. It’s the polar opposites at what they want from the opposite sex. Females priority 1. Rich 2. Attractive 3. Loyal. Male priority 1. Loyal 2. Attractive 3. Rich
This is fun, Orion! My man is not rich, but hardworking.....good looking, but is 60, but so am I ...WISE, funny and he tells me he's loyal! Time will tell.💕
@@Nordic_Sky You married a desperate Filipino, Chinese, Vietnamese and brag about your trophy wife. These nationalities in the West won't bother glance at older men because they are strong independent women. 😅
If all you have to offer is Loyalty that can only get you in the door for a small window of time if the woman thinks that you have 'potential' to become rich. Otherwise, straight to the friendzone or back burner while she shops for the other two
This happens to average looking to medium ugly women, too. Straight to the "friend zone" or "just for sex" zone, while he shops for what he really wants. Men don't bank on a woman's potential to become attractive. Just like women don't bank -not forever- on a man's potential to become financially "safe" for her to go all in with all her looks and eggs left. Not in a world where she is told that that is her main value is. Hth. It's quite fair when you think abt it this way.
As a man of mild means and high sensitivity, I have never yo-yo'd back and forth so rapidly nor so often between thumbs ups and thumbs downs on a video. I'm still unsure where to end up which means this is probably a great and insightful F'n video. 👍
"Most men have had the experience of sincerely pledging their love and devotion to a woman only to be passed over for a man of who is either more attractive or more succesful. This is how MEN learn from WOMEN that of the three goods, that LOYATY is the least desirable." Goddamn my dude, so are are out here spilling facts right out in the open like that.
Money does leave you, and so does everything, because you'll meet the great equalizer. Question is, did you sacrifice experiences of your life... For a pile of dough that will sit there when you croak?
@@limitlesssky3050 and many imperfect men want perfect women out of their league and financial providing ability. very few want to accurately assess themselves and do what needs to be done to become attractive to whom they want. men and women.
5:30 I really agree w that. Men only talk abt morals (religion aside) because most of us don't get to have fun as easily as women; and women do the same when they start to age . That's why I think there's no inherent value to loyalty, especially as a man, since it's unlikely you'll get anything out of being loyal (unlike women who may get resources)
asking for loyalty is asking to be seen as valueless. If you don't cheat, most women are going to think you can't cheat, and a preselection bias will activate in their brains that makes them ask why no other girl wants you, making you unattractive if you weren't before.
@patrioticwhitemail9119 I'm not a young ignorant individual, I just made it through a 24 year marriage. When your spouse is asked how she got you, you don't need to cheat for it to be clear how valuable other women see you. That said, perimenopause is real and it does result in many divorces, with with men that most women want.
@@patrioticwhitemail9119 indeed, this isn't a simple exchange. They won't be loyal just because you are, remember that and avoid lots of trouble. They treat loyalty as a reward as long as you are valuable, but once you understand that, what's the point of loyalty lol
@msinna6433 If you got to bed a super model every night, but she had kids from another man prior to meeting you, would you take that deal? I don't know Russel Wilson or his wife, but just inserting some nuance. Blended families are super common nowadays because of the breakdown of the nuclear family. Trying to mock a man for "taking care of another man's kids" is a surface level insult that makes no sense when you look at the bigger picture. How happy is he with the woman, and how well does he get along with the kids? That is the actual important question. Yes, it is preferable to only take care of your kids, but since noone's a virgin before marriage anymore, disqualifying attractive women because they already have kids isn't as important as it was in the past. Especially considering that girls raised by single women are more likely to become single moms themselves, stepfathers are a positive to society and the future dating pool. Also, just because you are a stepfather, doesn't mean you are a doormat that tolerates disrespect. What matters when dating women who already have kids is how they behave now: are they responsible people that take care of you, or are they a pain in the butt that takes no accountability?
Prince Charming does exist, but they're exceptional people who weren't all three at first. The odds of finding that kind of a person is statistical anomaly though.
I've tried to think about it and he's spot on. Rich and attractive and loyal, can't exist. And even if it does, it can't, it's like breaking the laws of physics. At least one quality has to be sacrificed.
They exist. It is just a matter of degree in each of those respective categories. With the divorce machine in FULL swing lately there will actually be more of them available now than ever since many modern women have been duped into thinking that prince charming isn't enough bc he doesn't help around the house enough. Orion is 100% right though, many women will clamor to take these women's spots esp. later in life.
@@bryanlau8218 Lottery winners exist too. They're called outliers. In statistics, outliers are removed because they are rare and skew the curve. Should we all blow our paychecks on the lottery? Maybe you should.
@@aferg76 So are lottery winners. Would you suggest that everyone spend every paycheck on lottery tickets? I don't think those two guys you mentioned are loyal. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Everyone thought that Bill Gates was loyal.
Orion is reinforcing what society know so to be true but don’t want to admit. Just watch Leo dicaprios great gatsby. Dude got rich only for his love interest to use him and discard him as she was already married to a successful man regardless of his appearance or loyalty or lack of.
I've heard so many people misuse the word "disinterested," thinking that it means "uninterested." "Enormity" is another one. I recently learned that "irregardless" has become an accepted neologism. 🤮 Your command of the language is something akin to Oscar Wilde's. 😄
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What’s the threshold of rich in this scenario. Top 10% of earners or the top 1%?
I offer women 1.5 Maybe that will work? Thanks Doc.
I had only loyal, I have more or less all 3 now. I got money (top 5%) and bought attractiveness (personal trainer, skincare, hairdresser, clothes, etc.) with average face and height so effectively 2.5.
She liked me at my lowest, there's no chance I'll turn my back on her now that I got the others.
HoeMath also covered this concept but in a much less elegant way than Dr. O
The male triangle (can only have two):
Hot
Rich
NO hoes
Female triangle (can only have two but often less)
Hot
Not crazy
Single
@@Woofreestyle he said a playboy that can provide a compelling life style but has lots of hoes. So obviously pretty damn rich 😅
I was rich and loyal. She then took all my money and house. Now I'm just attractive.
You and I both. 24 years and my spouse left me and took everything with her. While painful, the fact is I'm already quickly rebuilding my legacy.
I know!...it's a curse and cross some of us must bare....😮💨
Well, at least you got to Prince Charming for a time, for what it’s worth.
At least, sign a prenup. "Be antifragile" ― Nassim Nicholas Taleb
@@Amundsen8635 you kept your sense of humour. That’s a valuable thing to navigate life 😉
Thanks, doc. I know this video was meant for women but men understanding about themselves is just as important, if not even more important.
It’s funny how the videos he makes for women are going to be viewed 95% by men
Im a woman n love his videos
I am a woman, absolutely love and take heed of his videos
Sure, just like the Happy Wives YT channel. All male viewers.
Because we are smart, Madam
@@FoodieQueenBee what i your take on this particular video?
Orion is right, but few women will care, they want it all. Even if they get 2 or all 3, most eventually take you for granted.
it happens to the best of them - Tom Brady, Mathew Stafford, Will Smith, etc... It's not a sure thing as women's fantaciful thoughts/romanticism changes. Loyalty for men is based on principle, purpose, logic. Women's, love, fantasy, thrill, romanticism. It's not foundationally strong, and is superficial in the grand scheme of things.
LOL! Here comes the sour grape! Dr. Orion is right, period. You are not.
Rich is correct. Women have become insane and the only things pleasing are short term. They can’t hold a coherent thought beyond the next emotional distraction
Facts. Truer words have never been spoken. Important to add the tale of how the story ends independent of how many of these prized virtues you possess @entrepreneursincars
It's funny listening to Orion use high falutin terminology to explain things the PUA space figured out 15 years ago...
"You have to remove all negativity and annoyance from your tone when communicating with women because she will amplify it and hyperfocus on that tone over the content of your speech."
=
"They can't take criticism so just talk to them like kids."
My man is attractive to me, doesn't pretend to be rich but he is in a good position financially and I trust him 100% 😊
That's good
Lucky
He must be blk.
Trust him 100% ?
there is your first mistake
@Eagle-e4l It took me years to develop that confidence in him. And yes, I've never known someone more dependable, more stable and trustworthy than him. Of course, I'm conscious no human being is totally infallible
I think a man having all three is possible but improbable. It's like a woman being a perfect 10 and not being totally nuts. Hypothetically they exist, but they're so rare they practically don't, so don't expect it.
There's a fair share of these men around, but they all got taken when they got rich or attractive (but continued and became the other one), and you don't have a chance with them cause they're loyal
@@TheUltimateMarioFan
So love doesn’t exist??
women need to stop chasing the rainbow then.
I have seen attractive women, loyal and smart though.
ahh the mythical unicorn 😄
the "Prince Charmings" get married earlier in life (hence the "all the good ones are taken" claim from women). They may not start out very successful but they can grow to be. Still, most will not stay Prince Charmings. They will likely become unattractive or disloyal. Older, unmarried men might be attractive and successful, but they have no real incentive to be loyal.
Women like that do exist, I have a married ex-actress friend who falls in that category but to get there she needed to fail at the acting part to get her head on straight and she ended up with a husband in the who's average in looks but who dotes on her. Another option is the ugly duckling, someone who was average in high school but that matured into a swan when she was older. I know a married woman like that too and she's a beautiful and dedicated wife and mother and ten times as attractive at 38 as she was as a teenager. However you note that neither of these ladies are single. That's because someone like that doesn't stay on the market long, the window is very, very small to find them, sometimes measured in just days.
Orion's thoughts and advices are usually so DEEP that l regularly have to pause the video to process them and to let them sink in.
It’s because he’s giving you information not all of this emotion like women do
@@therealmohammad are you serious?
@ unfortunately yes, most girls run logic through their emotions.
I even have to replay for many days because it encrypted 😅😅😅
I hope that was not the case here.
The level of articulation deserves a national award bro 😭Very well conceptualized.
He’s the best around
Right? I feel blessed with intelligence when I can repeat just 2 sentences from a video 😂
Understanding Women: Attractive, Sane, or Loyal
And you only get 1
lol, love this
@@williamhermann6635 If you're lucky :)
@@anjunatuna wait lmao aren't you a woman
Attractive, sane, or offering s*x.
"Ladies, this one is for you ..." followed immediately by every woman closing their browser while the men eagerly wait to hear what the Dr. has to say.
BS. This is what you think with that male brain of yours completely incapable of relating. Women will certainly not "close their browser" to even an enemy's point of view. If anything, they will listen to what the "enemy" has to say so they can get into his mind and play him. You have zero understanding of the female mind.
@@josealexi5141 no
It's working for him though!
This is the "Red Pill" for women.
One thing I've finally accepted is that you can't feed people the truth, you can set the table & that's it.
@@adamjames1375 big agree
Is it though? Given than men are more inclined to let things be and women more inclined to be idealistic, I would think women know this by default and want to make it better. So telling this to them won't be a surprise that leads to an awakening to human nature like men have been experiencing, they are more likely to take it as "don't expect much from me because I'm a man and here's a video about it".
A Red Pill for women would be something that makes them finally give up on their idealistic views of what people could become, accepting what people are. Nobody has come up with that shit yet 😂
@@nikeisagreekgoddess4135 Nope, this is it. Most women live in delusion land where they will get rich hot dude that will simp for them for eternity because tik-tok told them they're worth it.
Is it idealistic to trust your husband boyfriend partner? That’s a sad commentary on men. I think men are better than that.
"Most men have had the experience of sincerely pledging their love and devotion to a woman only to be passed over for a man of who is either more attractive or more succesful. This is how MEN learn from WOMEN that of the three goods, that LOYATY is the least desirable" damn, this should be its own entire video.
Women feel the same way when they’re cheated on, probably why women are cheating more now :/
Ladies listen to him. He knows what he’s talking about. It took me a long time to learn and finally realize a lot of the things he teaches.
As far as this video goes…..100% correct. When I was younger I also bought into the Prince Charming bs. There is no Prince Charming. Cold hard facts.
The faster you realize this the better. In my experience I’ve been lucky to have two out of the three. Currently, just like he stated, I have one. On a really good day I sometimes feel like it might be two. But I don’t want to jinx myself.
There are no such thing as unicorns.
You have anything you want, but you can’t have everything you want.
A few days ago, a podcast host was asked if he considered himself Top Tier. He answered "Yes"... and when asked to describe what makes him Top Tier, he mentioned his height and income. He is 6'4 and makes well over 100k a year. That dude has been dragged all over social media by women and yet, what Dr. Orion said at 5:38 is precisely why he can boldly claim he is a top tier man.
He would NEVER have come to the conclusion that he is a Top Tier man if not for the positive reinforcements he has consistently received from women for merely being 6'4 and a high income earner. Women through their actions have told HIM that he is a Top Tier man.
Regardless of how much they claim to value loyalty above all else, if you look at their dating preferences, you'll see that the most wildly desirable archetype of man is the playboy.
James Bond, Christian Grey (50 Shades Of Grey), Bruce Wayne, NBA athletes etc.
If women want men to value loyalty as much as they claim, start rewarding loyal men more than you reward playboys.
That’s like asking men to reward good women over hoes. That will never happen.
Over 100K is no longer anywhere close to being top tier.
All talk for the act. There’s a reason they wear makeup to begin with…
@@aferg76 in your head of course
@@aferg76exactly!
This is all so true. And for those that say they’re all 3. It’s proof that either you’re not or your don’t get it. Because if you were all the 2 of attractive and rich, you’d be on celebrity like status for a man. Leonardo Decaprio, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady. Tell me just how “loyal” you think those guys are. Especially in their prime. Tiger woods is a great example. He was not attractive until he became rich and famous. Then loyalty went right out of the window. That’s what he’s saying. When you have 2, you have tons of options which makes loyalty next to impossible.
Tom Hanks and Jon Bon Jovi are the 2 notable exceptions.
Add Tom Selleck to that list.
I was laughing my ass off when the Tiger Woods scandal went off. OH WOW, shocker. Not a single man in the history of mankind would be loyal in his shoes. And please, if you're not an international A+ celeb, please dont tell me otherwise. Flocks of 10s always trying to get with you aggressively... You're gonna indulge.
I don’t think you need to be a megastar to be rich by average person standards though
@@aquamarine0303You never know what deal those guys made with their wives. Everyone thought Kobe was loyal but his wife tolerated it.
“There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs.” Thomas Sowell. Applies to human mating and reproduction just as much as it applies to economics. Educated women who refuse to settle will find themselves single and childless. I think this is what is driving the decline in marriage and birth rates. Educated women want it ALL.
They mistakenly think their education raises their status - despite contrary evidence.
They try to become the men they desire.
be a stay at home mom who doesn't need to work and can enjoy middle class lifestyle till kids are grown ups is that ALL. The thing is while very common just 50 years ago, it's a fantasy today. There are no families I know where only one person works and this provides sense of stability that can last for two or three decades. Empire is falling apart and this is not women nor men fault.
@@paulb7207 Did you even listen to the video? The video was nothing to do with stay at home moms, single earner households, etc.
@@paulb7207 most women don't want to stay at home, look the trad-wife shaming online. I do agree that this isn't particularly men's or women's fault though, the economy just got out of our hands
Great Sowell
The problem with all of these channels is that they cater to an audience of disaffected men, instead of psychotic women. The women are on TikTok, not listening to UA-cam psychologists - no matter how much value they might provide. Advice is only as effective as your audience
Men eventually become fathers to their daughters
depending on how lucky they (truly) are.
@lanceroparaca1413 😂 who then get divorced and the keeds taken to collect them gov. checks...and the cycle continues to worsen.
I’m a woman and I watch every single one of Orion’s videos
@@sammyz4evayou are an outlier, not the majority.
But the world is better for having you and those like you in it
A perfect marriage or relationship is an illusion; there's no universal playbook for making them work. What's effective for one couple may not apply to another. Nevertheless, I've come to understand that there's always a solution to be found. Half a decade ago, my wife and I faced such trials in our marriage that divorce seemed inevitable. Yet, through perseverance and determination, we navigated through the rough waters and emerged stronger, reunited, and more resilient
There is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
Its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is shelly renee white..
This is helpful, I will look her up online right now...Thanks.
You wont regret it
I hope nobody is falling for your scam.
This video explains to me the success of 50 Shades of Grey. Woman, usually want it all, not only one of the three, options, and in that movie the guy is attractive and rich, but finally he succumbs for the girl and become loyal. It’s a Prince Charming Disney movie for adults basically.
@simplastic it's real though, but women want a guy to be rich already instead of supporting him. And rich is subjective. I may not own a million, but i have land, trees, and animals we can live off of.
This captivating video triggers a flood of painful memories from the end of my 6 year relationship just 3 months ago. The woman I loved with all my heart chose to walk away, leaving me grappling with an insurmountable sense of loss. Despite my relentless efforts to salvage what we had, I'm left feeling disillusioned and unable to imagine a future without her. Despite my attempts to move on, I'm drawn to express my deep-seated longing for her here.
The struggle to release someone dear to your heart is undeniably arduous. I empathize, having experienced a similar circumstance when my 6 year relationship concluded. Refusing to accept defeat, I pursued every conceivable avenue to reclaim his affection. Eventually, I sought the assistance of a spiritual counselor, whose wisdom and intervention played a pivotal role in reuniting us.
Where did you find a spiritual counselor, and how can I get in touch with her?
Suzanne Ann Walters is the name of an exceptional spiritual counselor renowned for her ability to reunite you with your former partner.
Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online.
Hey, I've seen this scam before!
The equivalent of Prince Charming (a guy who has all three) would be a woman who is stunningly beautiful, loving and socially masterful, and has undying loyalty. Definitely someone in a movie.
@@Nordic_Sky neither would be single
Someone in the comment said attractive, sane or loyal, lucky if you have one who has two but three is the unicorn
fairy tales
Interesting perspective! It’s true that understanding the balance of these traits can really help navigate relationships. Each archetype brings something different to the table, and recognizing what you value most can make all the difference.
let this reach the women that need to hear it
The women who NEED to hear it will NOT listen! lol
no one cares
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a rich and attractive woman there's no value in his videos as I don't have much desire for men 😂
@mayluz444 I said to those who need it.
“Welcome to The Husband Store…”
I’m reading your book and I’m currently reading about relationships being a media of transactions.
Being a serial Romeo - biggest waste of time and heartbreak in my life… over and over again….
@fintechip96_the orginal story of Romeo didnt end to well for him either. Theres a lesson there.
They need to compete with each other 👯♀👯♀👯♀👯♀👯♀ there’s a reason they all share the same boys 🤮
Your frameworks are masterful and I feel this would be immensely helpful to women. The only thing I worry about is the pitch: it's direct and harsh. I think a softened intro would get more women to listen.
This advice is great as it pertains to the nuances of Male/Female dynamics, but it doesn’t address the root issue. The root of all the dissatisfaction between the sexes is community. Carrot & Stick. Communities that punish separation and reward staying together are the most successful. Even the most well intentioned advice will not benefit a person in a bad environment.
it's impossible as we re living in a globalized world. Men have to compete with other men all over the world thanks to instagram and vice versa
Good men are punished with being a provider, meanwhile tyrone impregnates 5 women and vanishes
I'm an intj (I know pseudoscience, but you get my point) female and I've yet to hear you say many things I didn't observe myself. It amazes me how many people don't seem to innately pick up on these things that some of us just know. I missed my calling as a psychologist, I'm happy you got to be one. Great channel, thanks for the videos.
How often do you ever hear a woman even say she wants loyalty when asked what they look for in a man? Almost never.
Huh? How often do you hear women say they don't want cheaters?
@steveos5112 My point was if you ask a woman the things she looks for, loyalty would be buried on the list. Instead they got for superficial things like looks, money, etc. If loyalty was what they wanted most, they would have loyal men. But loyalty isnt exciting.
@@steveos5112 nope... I am woman...I need to trust so I can respect. Loyalty and attractiveness and I'm all set!
I acc hear it, but I don't think that matters in real life ; most will be ok with a cheating partner if he has want they want (money, status, etc.)
Idk about this I have to disagree, loyalty is always important to most women I've spoken to. I only speak to normal none narcissistic women tho
Women want a man who is rich attractive, loyal and compliant with whatever orders she gives him, usually to his detriment. That’s the missing part from your video.
Common sense is men avoiding such women.
And they won't respect him, naturally; never let people step on u
you have bad taste in women. I just don't talk and don't meet with women who treat me with no respect. Have a rule like this. Then enforce it. If you can't -- that's because you know deep down begging is your only option to get to the pu55y. And whose fault is that?
well… I guess that goes without saying, having come to understanding xx.s nature.
For women you can only have maybe two at most:
Hot
Single
Not crazy.
Sounds like you've met a lot of crazy women 😅
I think this may be your best episode ever.
Doc, your videos are so great, always!
Kudos for doing the great work.
What a good video! It left me with a black pilled thought however.
The thought is: No matter what archetype man you are there is nothing you can do to keep a woman happy long term unless she is self-aware of her nature.
When a woman gets into a relationship with a man she at least instinctively assessed his attributes and found them acceptable to her.
But, with time, she gets used to them in the same way a drug user gets used to their drug of choice and this inevitably leads to a decrease in her perceived value of the man, leading to dissatisfaction and dissolution of the relationship bc she’s no longer interested. She now needs more than what you have to offer or something different.
It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about his loyalty, attractiveness or wealth, the same thing happens.
Even if you are Prince Charming, the woman will get used to you and then no longer swoon over you like she used to do because she got used to you.
It's exactly the same with men.
Yea this is exactly what happens but Orion already gave the solution to this problem in a previous video. The solution he said was perpetual work for the man, which I think translates to personal growth. Never stop learning, pick up a new hobby, join a club, read books, get a different haircut, run a marathon, become spiritual, etc. I think you get the idea. This would be enough work to keep the woman emotionally invested in the relationship because her man is constantly evolving. This benefits both, the man grows in all directions, and the woman gets her emotional fix that she needs to keep her around
This is what entreprenuesincars said in the comment above if you read.
And yes I agree. Well said.
See: Tom Brady. Will smith. Chris rock. List goes on and on
EXACTLY
Orion, firstly… half way through your book and it is most informative! Second, I will not disagree with your perspective however as a woman who has been lucky with her mates, you can have all three if you yourself has self confidence in what you want and who you are. With that in your mind, make a list of the partner you want and then live that life, be that person and be open to meeting people who fit your goals. It is surprising how wonderful life can be if you are wonderful inside. Thank you Orion for being you!
Men with all three is EXTREMELY rare, like ultra-legendary-mythical unicorn. To tame and keep such a creature women MUST be some unique-legendary-unicornWhisperer herself. But dont bother, coming across such men is almost imposible.
Tom Brady and Will Smith wives could care less.
Thanks! I totally appreciate the logic. On a different note, I really like your watch-what brand and model is it?
One of the best videos so far!
Thanks!
I'm a simple man. I hear "I'm Dr. Orion Taraban..." and I click "like".
Diddo
Ditto
Me too.
"Notice me, senpai!" 😂
@@joao_belmont Lmao
It takes a lot of effort for a man to be rich and attractive. Thing is - when a man has lots of options, he won’t have much loyalty unless he comes across a dime of a woman 😉
Another valuable piece of information from Mr Taraban
Love that you, in passing, disabuse men of the notion that a lack of options equals loyalty. Just like frugality requires affluence. Having no money doesn't make you frugal, it makes you broke. And having no women doesn't make you loyal, it makes you desperate.
Another great episode. Maybe your best. Thanks Orion!
I like these videos, and even though i was clickbated by the aesthetic thumbnail, the thoughts that you give me is so valuable
Hi! Everyone on here 😊🌄.
Dr. O it depends on both men and women how they define or their perception on what is rich and what is attractive . On loyalty: people become loyal to whom they want to be loyal and there's still loyal men and women. Loyalists still exist 😊.
Wheeew this is so real. Ive been saying some of this to my friends. Definitely sharing video
George Clooney seems to be all three right now.
For a world class beauty that is also a world class lawyer...
He is too old to be conventionally attractive (but def 15-20 years ago he was) - so he is 2 points at max
What a sigma 🙌🙌🙌
@sanich0811
Dude is still attractive. Unless he's dating women 15-20 years younger than himself, what you said has no relevance to the dating pool he is drawing from. You have to adjust your reference point to match the circumstance.
Fun, spot-on, thanks Orion! :) Will send this one several Woe-men. I can relate, and confirm: Men evolve (possibly). When young athlete (muay thai competitor), I was attractive, and loyal. Later, I was (say, reasonably by Hungarian standards) wealthy, still attractive, but loyalty ... welll... to several women simultaneously. (I kept quality high and only went for an even better one,). Later, I became less wealthy, more attractive (more mature, I was a sexy trainer guy, mountain climber), and gained loyalty back. Nowadays wealth is coming back, I am single and not approach women, my socaliazing has gone away for some years. Will see what comes next.
Loyal and rich is for suckers. Attractive gives a guy the best options. Watch what u eat bro. All 3 guys get wrecked like the rich and loyal guys.
You are correct. Self control is your greatest free asset. And many women will come just because you look good. Healthy and fit. Pushups and running are free. Everything else is inherited or luck. If you know hard work, if you know self control, success will be yours. Not only in the dating world.
I am a woman and have gone through the different types of men you mentioned in this video and I must say you are right on point. Well said.
@P.90.603 I've not been "run through " by these men. Most of the relationships were mutual. And most of them were friends that either had feelings for me or vice versa. Understand the concept.
@P.90.603 I'm sure you are a chronically single guy who is hiding behind his phone and doesn't have a girlfriend. Cos the way you talk is questionable.
This is the funniest one yet.
There was a time when I inherited a significant amount of money and lived a very hedonistic lifestyle for a couple years.
I don’t regret it one bit.
Beautiful. Thank you for creating this video, Dr. Taraban!
Great video, A month ago, my five-year relationship came to an end. I really can't stop thinking about the love of my life, who made the decision to leave me. I've done everything in my power to win him back, but it's all in vain, and I can't imagine my life with anyone else. I genuinely miss him and just can't stop thinking about him, even though I've tried my hardest to stop thinking about him. I'm not sure why I'm saying this here.
It's hard to say goodbye to someone you love; I experienced this when my 12-year relationship ended. However, I couldn't just let him go; instead, I tried everything to win him back. Eventually, I turned to a spiritual counsellor for assistance, and he was able to help me win him back.
Interesting! How did you locate a spiritual counsellor, and how can I get in touch with him most effectively?
His name is Father Obah Eze, and he is a great spiritual counselor who can bring back your ex.
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this hurts my heart and opens my eyes at the same time.
I bet the next episode is for men. The topic is "Women can provide Great Sex, Great Food & Home or Great Sanity. But you can choose only two." Something in those terms.
Many asian women provide all three. Easily… just have to go beyond the western walls..
I definitely provide all those 3 but my man is only on loyal part. Is that fair? My salary is twice than him n i own a home but he doesn’t.
HoeMath already did an episode on this, and for women its:
Single
Hot
Not crazy
But you can only have a maximum of two 😅
@@Jaye_e1000 im that woman 👩
@@FoodieQueenBee Perhaps it's time to dump him and gun for a rich, attractive man who will break your heart serially 😂
Choose your trade-off.
Man spoken here- I enjoyed this! Learned something new as well.
The loyal man is always punished the worst...especially in this modern economy. And the reason that the women can only get 2 max is because for centuries, and power dynamics, this is how they have made men to be by rewarding one of the three but loyalty the least. It is part of the social contract, a union.
How do they reward loyalty least?
It’s taken me my entire career and several failed relationships but I have two and I’m working hard on developing loyalty.
Not sure that I follow. You say that being loyal means nothing if you do not really have any admirers, that is to say, if you do not quite have your loyalty tested. By this logic, we have 2 base options left, which are rich or handsome.
It sounds like you follow just fine
If you have no options, you're not really loyal. You're just taking what you can get and all you can get is the one. Loyalty means having options and sticking with one
If attractive women are hitting you up left and right, and you're only entertaining YOUR woman, you're loyal. It's impossible to be loyal unless your loyalty is being tested. And most people are only about as loyal as their options. And no one is loyal unconditionally. It's physically impossible to be unconditionally loyal. Loyalty, especially emotional loyalty, has to be earned
@tdaye6978 I sort of agree with that. However, being loyal can mean that you are not purposefully looking for someone's else attention or affairs since you already have your woman/wife, regardless of your looks. I am saying that there is flaw in base logic of his concept presenting 3 categories because of the points he made.
Hey doc I really appreciate the wisdom you are sharing. Just wanted to say that I bought your book to get value and to support you. Win win buddy 😄
I'm rich and loyal, and it don't help get attractive women. I'm starting to think loyalty is the biggest turn off to women. And they're not altogether wrong. I'm loyal because of sexual insecurities. I give loyalty so that I might also demand loyalty to make up for sexual dysfunction and women can smell it a mile off. Still, the video both gives me a little hope and leaves me confirmed in my belief that I'm probably not missing much in my particular circumstances.
But are you hot? 😅
The women turned off by loyalty are not the women you want in a relationship, keep hustling and don’t settle, king
Nah that’s not true about loyalty. Your insecurity is the problem. Insecurity is an unattractive trait to women. If you have more inhibitions about having sex than the woman you are dating I have bad news for you. A man who suggests himself to wait for sex till commitment is almost always hiding something. And its so obvious since 99% of single men wouldnt miss a chance.
@@_cara_7693 I'm not arguing with you. It's exactly as it is. I struggle with PE, which makes me very sexually insecure. The truth is many men do, and I'm sure it's kind of obvious to a lot of women, which makes us unattractive for the purposes of this video. Nevertheless, for an attractive woman that would work through it with me I would certainly offer loyalty. I don't expect an attractive woman to do so, as she has the choice of every man she comes across. It's the same for me not wanting to bother working through the problems of a fat woman that might be attractive if a man would help her work through her insecurities and get into shape. I don't hate on them for it. I think the reason apparently rich and attractive men would offer loyalty is because of insecurities like mine. Indeed I'd say a fairly large proportion of successful men are successful precisely because they hope their hard work and success will make up for a perceived lack in another part of their life, quite probably sexual.
@@_cara_7693 That's precisely why I said I was rich and loyal, not attractive because my insecurities make me unattractive. I don't think it's 99% of single men though. A lot of men are sexually insecure, either because of PE, size or ED. I do sometimes get a little frustrated that you can do everything within your control to be the vest version of yourself you can be - I made a lot of money doing something very socially beneficial, built my house with my own hands, planted a woodland, play a mean fiddle, workout 6 times a week, surf some big waves, take responsibility willingly whenever I need to - but if you don't measure up in bed, none of it much matters. Never mind, there are gold diggers to somewhat make up for it. Life isn't supposed to be fair.
What I've learned about relationships: if both parties believe their partner is the best they can attract or at least in the ball park of the best, then all is well. If either one comes to believe they can do 'significantly' better, then things start going sideways
How about if people just start getting treated badly?
Exactly, I got lucky once and dated a super hottie. She told me that she will never commit to me. She was hot and the sex was good. Great arm candy too. I didn't mind her seeing/sleeping with other guys because I couldn't do better. It's a trade-off I was willing to live with. I rather drive a Ferrari with high mileage than a hooptie with low mileage.
Finally. MORE episodes for women please.
RIGHT!!!!
Are you guys actually listening to this though? And if so. What are the takeaways? Or what’s different? Cuz every woman I meet still eventually wants loyalty despite giving the other 2. Not at first. Happy to go on a ride. But eventually steps off cuz it ain’t owned by her. In search of a lesser option she can command and control that she doesn’t like as much
@@kevinkurgansky4479 you actually think they are here for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yet another legendary episode❤
I’m 38, 5’7, and weigh 155 with an athletic body. I make north of $200k and aiming to make my first $100k month. I think I’m attractive enough and make decent income with a high moral standard. The difficulty for me in dating is finding a great girl. I don’t have a problem with getting women to want to go home with me, even on first dates. I’m just not interested in hook up culture. I’ve learned my lesson with getting in bed too soon. Looking for a humble, modest, and beautiful girl with her own charm.
He does consultations; I would get one if I were rich. They are about $900 USD.
It would help if you hit him up for
One and figure out how to get a girlfriend 😅
I think, you will get there. I'm positive you will, and I certainly wish you so.
What kind of work do you do my friend
Try church, seriously, even if you aren't religious, they are better than the average there. For all the flaws Christianity has and there are plenty, at least it's a moral system that tries to constrain the worst parts of both male and female nature (sexual infidelity, divorcing to level up etc)
You look like a prime candidate for a passport bro. If you're set on marriage and family, just noping out of femini world and finding a traditional woman in a traditional country could save you a ton of time and headaches.
Have to listen this over and over
I don't know about this, man. This just sounds like a very intelligent sounding excuse to enable yourself to be disloyal because if you think it through, there really is no reason you can't be all three.
Woman here. Nicely put.
A man with all the attributes ( rich , attractive and loyal ) would need a very good incentive to do so . . .
Regardless of whether or not the men are being scumbags , that's what most women respond to ...when loyal guys are rewarded by women , then there will be more guys bearing flowers than badboys
Nailed it!!!!! I'm sure you will get lots of hate over this one!!!
A very interesting video with lots of compelling information. One thing that struck me though was that the virtue of "attractiveness" 's the most delicate because it is frequently subjective. A man might be very handsome but over the course of a relationship his appearance matters less and less to his partner (unless he actually begins to lose his looks).
Of course attractiveness does factor into loyalty... If a man is objectively handsome but his mate has begun to take his good looks for granted, they are still a valuable commodity in seeking other partners.
Wealth is objective. Even though wealth is relative (because there is always somebody with more) it is a genuine asset that people do not become bored of... In fact they often become dependent on it.
Loyalty is also objective. Either he is loyal or he is not. However, loyalty is also the easiest of the three to fake. I think in many cases "loyalty" doesn't really matter to a woman if she has a man with wealth and attractiveness.
She doesn't want to know he's been disloyal but as long as she doesn't have to deal with disloyalty she is probably willing to just participate in the illusion that her mate IS loyal.
Orion, a masterpiece yet again. Thank you for your brilliant work. Bravo!🎉
I’ve been listening to your audiobook this week. It’s been immensely helpful for me in understanding my avoidant partner and his unwillingness to commit. I realize now that he’s merely a “passenger” in life, wandering the docks with no true ambition to take on passengers of his own. In light of this, I finally realize why my attempts at securing a relationship with him have been unsuccessful. In short, I’m out of his league, and he knows he can’t give me what I need. It sucks but it is what it is. Thanks to you, Dr. Taraban, I finally feel prepared to move on from this pseudo-relationship and pair up with a man who’s both capable and willing.
Thats a nice theory for your ego indeed. And who knows perhaps its true. Perhaps my powerball ticket is the right one. But let me tell you, every man who read your comment laughed. We have no problem commiting to quality woman... Especially if the guy isnt that incredible.
@alexandrodl1371
Exactly!
As if one single woman deliberately would associate herself with a mate of lower value (even the association with same-level men is unlikely).
lol y’all are in denial. The guy I’ve been with is emotionally broken by a woman who robbed him of 10 years of his goals, money, and ambitions, only to cheat and have a kid with another man. He’s already told me I would be his ideal partner if he hadn’t sworn to himself he’d never love again. It has nothing to do with my quality and everything to do with his baggage, and his unwillingness to work towards healing.
But I’m clearly wasting my time and energy explaining this to red pill incels on the internet.
@Im____ltm Why are you trying to start an argument then?
Women. ☕️
@@Im____ltm Hey like I said, perhaps you're right, truly. But he said the incredible cliche ' Its not you, its me'. Just the easiest, most basic and easy to say reason for a man to stop putting any efforts or end it, with the least drama possible. Im sure all men who had pretty much any success with women have said it twice. Possibly we even tought once or twice that being respecfully honest would be appreciated earlier in our dating life. Sounds like a joke when I reread it. With a decent portion of the female population ' Its not you, its me' is the very best way to go about no commiting more.
Great info and entertaining.
If you think of this as priorities for male vs females. It’s the polar opposites at what they want from the opposite sex. Females priority 1. Rich 2. Attractive 3. Loyal. Male priority 1. Loyal 2. Attractive 3. Rich
This is EXACTLY what hoe_math was talking about: you can pick 2 if you're above 7 and only pick 1 if you're below 7:
Hot, rich, no hoes.
🤗
How true! Your insights are always so frightfully true!
This is fun, Orion! My man is not rich, but hardworking.....good looking, but is 60, but so am I ...WISE, funny and he tells me he's loyal! Time will tell.💕
You look amazing for 60.
Loyal? Keep him out of SE Asia. I'm 63 and my wife is 31 and gorgeous.
@@stean90 how do you know how she looks?
@@stean90 My profile pic was taken about 10 years ago.... since then I have embraced my white hair. I really love it and get lots of compliments.
@@Nordic_Sky You married a desperate Filipino, Chinese, Vietnamese and brag about your trophy wife. These nationalities in the West won't bother glance at older men because they are strong independent women. 😅
Just found your channel. I’m hooked.
If all you have to offer is Loyalty that can only get you in the door for a small window of time if the woman thinks that you have 'potential' to become rich. Otherwise, straight to the friendzone or back burner while she shops for the other two
This happens to average looking to medium ugly women, too. Straight to the "friend zone" or "just for sex" zone, while he shops for what he really wants. Men don't bank on a woman's potential to become attractive. Just like women don't bank -not forever- on a man's potential to become financially "safe" for her to go all in with all her looks and eggs left. Not in a world where she is told that that is her main value is. Hth. It's quite fair when you think abt it this way.
@@skamgodt964 History is one long shitfest of healthy genes cucking unhealthy genes. The circle of life baby.
As a man of mild means and high sensitivity, I have never yo-yo'd back and forth so rapidly nor so often between thumbs ups and thumbs downs on a video. I'm still unsure where to end up which means this is probably a great and insightful F'n video. 👍
"Most men have had the experience of sincerely pledging their love and devotion to a woman only to be passed over for a man of who is either more attractive or more succesful. This is how MEN learn from WOMEN that of the three goods, that LOYATY is the least desirable." Goddamn my dude, so are are out here spilling facts right out in the open like that.
I’m all 3 but there is no way I am marrying. Love is temporary, money (if you are smart with it) is not. Money won’t leave you like a women can.
I agree but how about having kids?
I think women are figuring this out too
Money does leave you, and so does everything, because you'll meet the great equalizer. Question is, did you sacrifice experiences of your life... For a pile of dough that will sit there when you croak?
Dr. Orion does not miss !!!
I like that he advises women to make an effort to UNDERSTAND men. But advises men how to MANIPULATE women with "strategies and game playing".
Men learn from women that loyalty is the least important. That crushed my soul. I didn't want to believe it but was too painful to not be true.
Prince Charming DO exist, but he exist ONLY for a Princess Beautiful!!!
There are ppl who are willing to go all the way but only for the ONE!!!
Perfect women for perfect men. The problem is that many imperfect women want perfect man.
@@limitlesssky3050 and many imperfect men want perfect women out of their league and financial providing ability. very few want to accurately assess themselves and do what needs to be done to become attractive to whom they want. men and women.
@@limitlesssky3050and many imperfect men want a perfect woman, trust me, I'm a man and sometimes I want it all.
@@limitlesssky3050 We should be HONEST, imperfect Men want the same! ^_^ It's a Human thing! ^_^
Thank you for the reality-check!
i give up!
Why?
5:30 I really agree w that. Men only talk abt morals (religion aside) because most of us don't get to have fun as easily as women; and women do the same when they start to age . That's why I think there's no inherent value to loyalty, especially as a man, since it's unlikely you'll get anything out of being loyal (unlike women who may get resources)
Believe it or not, some of us want to be loyal. Who wants more than one modern woman?
Me, having a lot of women is easier than having one honestly. You’re always in the right mindset that they’re replaceable.
asking for loyalty is asking to be seen as valueless. If you don't cheat, most women are going to think you can't cheat, and a preselection bias will activate in their brains that makes them ask why no other girl wants you, making you unattractive if you weren't before.
@@patrioticwhitemail9119Bit dark, don't you think?
@patrioticwhitemail9119 I'm not a young ignorant individual, I just made it through a 24 year marriage. When your spouse is asked how she got you, you don't need to cheat for it to be clear how valuable other women see you. That said, perimenopause is real and it does result in many divorces, with with men that most women want.
@@patrioticwhitemail9119 indeed, this isn't a simple exchange. They won't be loyal just because you are, remember that and avoid lots of trouble. They treat loyalty as a reward as long as you are valuable, but once you understand that, what's the point of loyalty lol
Yes, I do need help! Thank you for your videos ❤
I can think of a Prince Charming example.
Russell Wilson.
Attractive, rich, and as far as we know. Loyal
Taking care of someone else kids, forgot that part
@msinna6433
If you got to bed a super model every night, but she had kids from another man prior to meeting you, would you take that deal?
I don't know Russel Wilson or his wife, but just inserting some nuance. Blended families are super common nowadays because of the breakdown of the nuclear family. Trying to mock a man for "taking care of another man's kids" is a surface level insult that makes no sense when you look at the bigger picture. How happy is he with the woman, and how well does he get along with the kids? That is the actual important question.
Yes, it is preferable to only take care of your kids, but since noone's a virgin before marriage anymore, disqualifying attractive women because they already have kids isn't as important as it was in the past. Especially considering that girls raised by single women are more likely to become single moms themselves, stepfathers are a positive to society and the future dating pool. Also, just because you are a stepfather, doesn't mean you are a doormat that tolerates disrespect.
What matters when dating women who already have kids is how they behave now: are they responsible people that take care of you, or are they a pain in the butt that takes no accountability?
@@onpoint2292 too much text.
@@onpoint2292 too much logic and level headedness in your response. disgruntled misogynists don't like that.
The only caveat to this is his wife was rich as well. Ciara net worth 20 Million.
Russell net worth 165 million.
I eagerly await the counterpart to this one.
Prince Charming does exist, but they're exceptional people who weren't all three at first. The odds of finding that kind of a person is statistical anomaly though.
My favorite video so far. It helped me align myself with what I prefer
I've tried to think about it and he's spot on. Rich and attractive and loyal, can't exist. And even if it does, it can't, it's like breaking the laws of physics. At least one quality has to be sacrificed.
They exist. It is just a matter of degree in each of those respective categories. With the divorce machine in FULL swing lately there will actually be more of them available now than ever since many modern women have been duped into thinking that prince charming isn't enough bc he doesn't help around the house enough. Orion is 100% right though, many women will clamor to take these women's spots esp. later in life.
@@bryanlau8218 Lottery winners exist too. They're called outliers. In statistics, outliers are removed because they are rare and skew the curve. Should we all blow our paychecks on the lottery? Maybe you should.
Russell Wilson and Steph Curry exist so you’re wrong.
The men arguing Prince Charming exists are never 2 of 3.
@@aferg76 So are lottery winners. Would you suggest that everyone spend every paycheck on lottery tickets? I don't think those two guys you mentioned are loyal. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Everyone thought that Bill Gates was loyal.
Yep.
once again I have nothing much to add. nailed it
hoe Maths was better 🥱
Orion is reinforcing what society know so to be true but don’t want to admit. Just watch Leo dicaprios great gatsby. Dude got rich only for his love interest to use him and discard him as she was already married to a successful man regardless of his appearance or loyalty or lack of.
Don’t limit yourself beautiful human ♥️ You are all three.
I've heard so many people misuse the word "disinterested," thinking that it means "uninterested." "Enormity" is another one. I recently learned that "irregardless" has become an accepted neologism. 🤮 Your command of the language is something akin to Oscar Wilde's. 😄
Mixing up disinterested and uninterested drives me up the wall!