Due to popular demand, this is the second episode in a three-part series on how women can get any man they want -- even if they are not exceptionally attractive. Men are not complicated. To secure a relationship with any man they have direct access to, women only need to do two things (and not do one thing). This episode is about the second thing, the Hook. This is how women capture men. In order to hook a man, women have to be the nastiest, slutiest versions of themselves possible. A woman's sexual behavior is the primary way men gauge her interest and attraction. So she needs to do things for him that she hasn't done with any other man -- and, ideally, that he hasn't done with any other woman. Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: ua-cam.com/video/WrXBzQ2HDEQ/v-deo.html Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: ua-cam.com/channels/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXw.htmljoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #dating #relationship
I once was in a relationship with a woman who was wildly attracted to me. She was both useful and very accommodating sexually. But I never could respond back in kind. There was just something missing. I'll be interested to see what the "don't do's" are to see where she may have screwed up. In the end however, she found the right guy who truth be told, was a much higher value man than me.
@@romeobodeodo Now this is why I am struggling with this and the previous video; it sounds like women should do all the things a wife does, without being a wife (being useful to a man and sexually accommodating to him)? (Don't come for me, it's an honest query, just trying to understand.)
I'm afraid too many women will take away from this little more than the idea that sleeping with a man is all they need to do to get him. So they'll keep hooking up with every guy they can and then keep wondering why they can't get a man for a committed relationship.
...hell, theyre already doing this...lol. Women are horrible at choosing men, but they do know the base of getting one's attention; sex. They never think beyond in most cases, and if they do, its marginal...a few componenets here and there. Ego, stains from other men create disdain for future men, simply dont care, no appreciation for men in general...there's alot of reasons that will get in the way of them EFFECTIVELY receiving this message, AND being able to deductively apply it
No one is special. That's the trap. Nothing more fucked up than needing to be, feel, be treated as or whatever "special"... perhaps working on people to be the one making them "special" is even worst. That's evil.
Ladies, there’s a video from Jordan Peterson where he explains the best tool a woman has that is attractive to high value men, is her ability and willingness to say NO. Because when you have options, you don’t feel the urge to say yes to every guy so know your worth and have enough self respect not to be accessible to just anyone! Also have a life outside of dating, don’t focus on men or relationships, focus on you. You should have your own life, hobbies and ambitions & you should be just as busy as that high value man you’re chasing. Most importantly, don’t forget that if you give yourself too quickly and too easily then he won’t see you as a high value woman therefore won’t invest in you in the long run.
These videos are for women seeking ONLY "high value" men. The women who ONLY want HVMs do NOT have "options." There are MANY, MANY, MANY, MAANNY women compared to the men who are 6 feet, 6 pack, 6 inches, and 6 figures.
Your points holds true when a man is chasing a woman. If that woman waits a while before having sex with that man, she increases her value to that man. However, the example in the video is of a woman chasing a very high value man who has many immediate options with no compelling reason to commit to any one particular women. In that situation, if the high value man is the woman's biggest desire and her best possible option, then it makes sense for that woman to take Dr. Taraban's advice - she has nothing to lose and everything to gain (so long as she understands that the man might still not commit since nothing is certain).
Make his life easier, not harder. That's it. Wanna be irresistible to him? Do what he wants you to -while demonstrating that you're not passive but have a brain of your own
He should be more precise to women though… they’re 4-5s in the face aiming for men out of their league that can attract super models (8-9-10s) this is what a lot of men are complaining about. No matter what those women do they’ll never be able to bag those men long term.
Most of the time, an ugly or average woman will be with a high value man because she was there when he was broke, those average women will never find commitment from an established man.
@@dpstrial this can be very difficult to do for because some men are very mean after a stressful day. Then want the female to do his emotion labor. Then grab for her body at night. In reality, many men need to have better emotional regulation. Not look for the female partners to take away his stress.
@@avig8334 I meant it in a general sense. Of course it can work the other way around, when a man constantly adds to a woman's stress. One of the problems today is that women appear to want to compete against men rather than complement them. It can't possibly work. Regards.
As someone who has been happily married for ten years, it makes me slightly proud of my 20-something self to have, somehow, subconsciously known and applied this wisdom.
Yeah, it's really not that difficult for women. Just don't be a one night stand and actually want a relationship without leading them on. It's really not that difficult.
@@g3nj1 yes, but enough women seem to get it wrong that he felt the need to make this video in the first place. Also, what you are saying is the requirement to land a relationship with a regular man. From what I understand, this video is aimed at women who want a man that many other women want.
I'm guessing that if you're *happily* married after ten years, you didn't shut down the hot sex once you locked him down. Wish more women embraced that consistency.
Note, that he is talking about a high value man. Attractive, financially successful, well rounded and has morals. If you want a woman that provides these things, you'll have to do the work as well. Wipe off the dorito dust. Don't expect to receive a woman that will do this for you but your mission is not starving at the end of the month because you can barely afford rent. Become a king, don't just call yourself one and wait.
Think it was Peaky Blinders where the older matriarch was educating a younger woman: “never let him leave the house without his stomach full and his balls empty”.
Ladies, no point in arguing. If you have a strategy that works for you, stick with it. The bottom line is that when a strategy doesn’t work, you have to change it. From my view as an old married guy, it seems to me a lot of younger people need this guy’s advice.
the problem is when my strategy was more avoidant (not fully, but to an extent), I had better success with a man wanting a relationship, but now that I'm more securely attached, the main thing I get is men ghosting, even those who initiated and were upfront with wanting to date me for/towards a relationship
@@Adriana.Gabriela I’m not at all familiar with this attachment stuff. Also, telling you what worked for me likely won’t be helpful. If you are dating, and not lonely, I think you are likely doing fine.
I agree with you. There's not one strategy that always works for everyone. When I was less attractive, I had more men talking to me and flirting with me. My looks have improved as I got older and to my surprise, single men just avoid me like a plague. I had more opportunities when I was less physically attractive.
This is one of the few videos I disagree with you on. This basically just encourages hookup culture & the situation we’re in currently….top 10-20% of men getting all of the “love” without needing to commit.
The gist of his advice was "do what benefits males, s*xually, and males will pick you.".... Yeah sure. As if there isn't enough h**kups already happening. He also pointed out the *importance* of giving it to the *right* guy as if the woman can foresee everything. I don't know how people come up with this stuff. He setting it up so that he can reject her during the relationship, after he got everything he wanted from her. S*x will never be enough for him because either he doesn't know it or he does, but doesn't care. This is how they create females players.
I want to appeal to women. If you've had sex on the first date once and you are not comfortable with doing that ever again, *Do Not* go against your conscience. Move on from your mistakes. Don't repeat them.
Never have sex on the first date - its soooo dangerous... Its like suicide.. He can finish you just for that later if its a psychopath.. Need to take time to get to know a person well enough... it doesn't matter how many he can have others but not you...
If you don't want to have sex with the guy on the first date, he's not the one for you. That you did that with a guy that you didn't want to do it with is unfortunate, and you shouldn't have done that. But Orion is right: No self-respecting man, especially a man with options, will stay with a woman that makes him wait for sex more than someone else (if he finds out). And if he does stay, your relationship will never be as good as before he found out. You cannot charge a higher price than the original for a used product. Most men are fine with a woman that isn't a virgin, especially if she has a single digit body count. Making him wait longer than his predecessors is a much bigger deal-breaker!
I think all men should give all women the same advice they would give to their daughter. Would anybody here recommend this to their daughters: Sleep with the guy you like as fast as you can? (As fast as you can probably includes before you even get to know him better and; therefore, before you even know you really like him.) And also, a lot of women don't like to move so fast. They prefer to get emotionally involved first. But the first video of the series was great in my opinion.
@@canelareina3795 If he meant women behaving as a partner in an egalitarian relationship, instead of as a "prize", then I agree. But if he meant being a maid, I disagree. I think he meant the first thing, but I'm not really sure.
It's okay advice for gold diggers. Women, who are actually marriage material, should relax and enjoy what a man does for her. She should be light, sweet, appreciative, admiring, and fun. He will know at first glance, or within 3 weeks if he wants to marry her. He will marry her within 6 months, so no other man will have her, and he can help her more, and finally get her completely. (Sex, see her daily, have children) The majority of women are not marriage material. They don't want to get married until they are run-through and burned-out and almost infertle. "I want to get marrried some day but not right now because I'm still young and focused on my career. I've got to be independant." All the while they collect more and more hearttbreak and baggage. Then they act like a jaded boss b*/ches at home.
I don’t think he is saying as fast as you can as a blanket statement to all women. But if you have slept with a man on the first date (and he knows you did), then if you don’t with this man, he will think you are not crazy about him because you gave it up so quickly for someone else. I tend to wait for sex myself.
@@ThePhabulousYvelise But he is saying a "high-value" man with many options won't wait and he thinks waiting or not is just a strategy for women. They don't understand that most women prefer to wait as a natural process that is better for both. If a guy has no patience and self control to wait and take things slow, what self control will he have to be faithful in the future? They just think it is a strategy, manipulation, punishment or reward. It sounds like men that think in this way give zero value to building an emotional and spiritual connection first.
pure sex is never a reward. sex can be bought very cheaply in many countries. but passionate desire-driven sex will always be a reward for men if the women are high value enough themselves.
Then explain what he will see as a reward. You think the alternative is rewarding? Not getting any while she got her back broken in the past by some other dude? A man who is on top of the pyramid has access to ALL women. He is going to be picky yes, and he can get sex from any women, but that is exactly what Orion is trying to explain. Episode one talked about usefulness, this one about sex, and part 3 will be the last puzzle piece that women need in order to get any man they want. All three puzzle pieces will set her apart from other women, not just one of them. The man at the top of the pyramid has access to women who possess all three puzzle pieces, individually. But finding a women that has managed to combine all three is very, very rare and will set her apart from the very, very large crowd that a man like that can choose from.
It’s actually a huge compliment to the relationship guy when women hold back it mean they care A LOT about winning that person over. Actually when a woman sleeps with a man easily, there’s two reasons that stick out a) he was incredibly persuasive and her passion for him was stronger than her self control. Or B) it’s because she doesn’t respect him enough to care what he thinks about her. This is an important caveat that’s being overlooked.
@@metalandhammer I agree that B is often true in terms of how women see it, but this does not change the guy's perception. Women don't value sexual access like men because it's cheap and easy for them even "mids" whereas sex is usually more difficult for men to attain
As an older woman, what works for me is charm, flirting and soft seduction, never to the point of "slutty" or "nasty". Rarely have they cheated or walked out on me, and when the relationship ended, time was up and we were both ready to move on. But the ONLY way to make the charm/flirting/seduction happen is when there is undeniable chemistry, with both parties, in the beginning. Otherwise, forget it.
Women, this advice gives us ownership of the sexual drives we have and all the nasty things we fantasize about doing to our men. But if the guy you’re with doesn’t make you wanna be nasty, maybe he’s not the one you want to be with. So be your nasty self with the one you want!
The issue is the men that most women want to be nasty with are chads, regardless of how ugly the woman herself is, and those chads have tons of options. Why would they want to commit to a long term relationship with a 5/10 girl when they can get with a 7/10 girl instead who has an even better personality? So it all comes down to compromise. Maybe the guy who is willing to commit to you is a 5/10 in the looks department. You should learn to adjust a little and push yourself to do certain things that you aren’t enthusiastic about. The guy is doing exactly the same thing. If you weren’t having sex with him, he wouldn’t be taking you out on fancy dates and listen to your problems. The relationship with him is transactional in nature.
@@dna2dna275 liking, loving, falling in love, attraction out, trading in. so you should make this trading fun, not some torturing because chauvinists from the internet will laugh at you because you are a single woman. unfortunately I did something wrong and it is not OK now
That is not what he said.... jezz..... you women manage to f..k up everything. This about what YOU should do, NOT about your feelings. If you are in a relationship you should continue to f..k his brains out in order to keep him. If you are not happy in your relationship you should work on YOURSELF, that is probably the cause of the issue. If you are older than 30 there will be absolutely no chance for you to find a quality man that will be in a relationship with you. Men have sex with everybody, even quality men has that, but to get involved in a relationship for such a man, he has a different set of standards... one of them is that the woman should be under 30.
In my observation, it leads to an escalation of more extreme sexual experiences from one high value man to another. When a man finds out what others have done he starts treating a woman differently and no longer sees her as a potential wife and doesn't introduce her to family. They may stay exclusive but she will notice subtle differences and that it doesn't seem to go anywhere. She becomes a placeholder no matter how useful she is. Some men just lose respect knowing what she did with others and the hoops she is willing to go through when she has no real committment from him. It's not a good look for her. She may still be treated nicely but he does not see a real future with her and ends up marrying the one who said no to certain things and had boundaries. Some of these men really test a woman and want one to say no. Some of these men may keep an adventurous woman on the side as their mistress later on. A lot focus on their legacy, self-development, and career.
@@verycherry4459 Most men with options know most women have done some very freaky stuff with other men, so while it is in a way a man's job to bring that out of a girl (being sexually attractive himself, being able to make her feel safe and not judged), he knows that if she won't do it for him....he's deemed as a dork by the woman and that she'll be wishing and fantasizing about other men...whether she acts on it or not...because she had a better and more extreme sexual experience with another man. Just like women, men don't want to be settled for and be seen as a lame or dork, and most women are willing to be with dorks while fantasizing about others on the side (and acting on it at times more often than men realize). So, this is why I've always believed that a woman who sticks to traditional values and makes ANYONE, no matter who he is, wait...she'll end up more fulfilled. Problem is these days women will sleep around and be encouraged to do it more than ever...and men with options know it too.
First advice is better. The value based game, it helps you bond with him in the most genuine way. For high value men who are sexually experienced or addicts, you won’t be their first rodeo no matter what you do. Do what’s best for your mental health ladies. Find men who are actively working on themselves. A happy marriage is the prize.
Yes, yes, yes. Do what's best for your mental health. If you have to jump through hoops and neglect your sexual satisfaction just to have him than dump the high value man for someone healthier for your sex life.
Its interesting. Im a decent looking guy and I own and operate my own business. Ive never been married. I tend to have great experiences with women although there have been a few exceptions. My point is that I talk with so many men who let themselves get caught up in sexless marriages and bad romantic situations. The thought of a woman treating them well is foreign to them and the women they are involved with. Guys If a woman is into you she will be polite and helpful as hell outside the bedroom and a complete demonic freak inside the bedroom. Once I figured this out I never let that not be be dynamic between me and whoever I was dating. However we as men need to actually be desirable both in the way we look physically, and how we command respect emotionally. Meaning if we as men are objectively valuable physically, mentally, and financially, then we are rewarded greatly by the women who enthusiastically enter our frame. Great video Orien! No one breaks down these concepts better than you do. Period!
But this is extremely risky for women who feel they give everything to a man (help him, be useful, have amazing sex) and get nothing in return…because why buy the cow…so we re moving backwards a little these days, just to regain a bit of lost power.
Demonic freak, yeah ok. Part of what men need to work on to make themselves valuable is to meet her erotic needs too, and help out with the domestics. That seems to be missing from advice videos like this one. There is a very serious Orgasm Gap that is to blame for these sexless marriages. Orion's video is of no help because he's only focused on the man's sexual needs, not the woman's. AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM. Seems to be that only his sexual needs matter and not hers. Please google the Orgasm Gap, it seems you need to be educated on this, Orion is only one perspective. Lesbians don’t have this problem, this is strictly a heterosexual problem because all too often it’s the guy who gets the sexual attention. We need better sex education in schools. Fatigue does further damage. Women still take on a disproportionate amount of the domestics despite being a co-breadwinner. Marriage and children take up a lot of a woman's energy. Fatigue is the NUMBER ONE libido killer for women. When you combine that with the Orgasm Gap then it should not be surprising that she loses interest in sex. So men add value by not tiring her out with domestics and one-sided sexual demands. When sex is good for her also she will be better able to maintain the sexual energy in the long term. When he prioritizes her erotic needs and helps out with domestics than he is adding real value. Hope this helps.
Orion, usually I agree strongly with your perspectives, but this one seems way off. I am one man who has vast optionality with women. My problem is not a lack of sexual availability, but of few women who have the potential to be wives and mothers. Frankly speaking, loose women are unqualified for family life. If I see potential in a woman I will not push matters sexually, since I want to show I have self-control and can be trusted. Further, I look for a conservative woman with as few previous partners as possible.
Agreed, but as Dr. T points out, doing these things does nothing to satiate a man’s desire for variety. It simply puts you in a better position to be his priority among the other options he has.
You are absolutely correct, which is why Orion says to never let him leave home on an empty stomach. This could work most times if the woman works to keep things fresh under the sheets.
While true, good men also want good women... and understand the need for loyalty. Much easier to stave off the tendency for promiscuity while being satiated.
Some men deal with lots of insecurities and need women to fill their void. It is overwhelming to have too much attention. In theory it feels good to know you could have nearly any guy you want but in reality, feeling their desire and energy coming towards you, it's too much. Throughout the animal kingdom, the female chooses her mate. Watch. Interact. Choose specifically,clearly let that interest be known, let that interest grow to be reciprocated. There are few feelings better than being wanted by the one you want. Nat King Cole sang it so nicely" Darling it's incredible that someone so unforgettable thinks that I am unforgettable too." Thanks.
My experience of being rather successful with wealthy men (and I'm quite well off myself) is not to be submissive, obedient, cook, and clean. Rather, I make the effort to look and smell great; to be enjoyable and engaging company and an accomplished conversationalist. I am curious and educate myself on all types of subjects. Manners and a gentle, mischievous sense of humour will welcome you almost everywhere. I make sure we do interesting things together that build lovely experiences and memories. Even when it's difficult and I'm tired, I try to be agreeable even when disagreeing. One of my superpowers is creating a happy, beautiful, and comfortable home where things work really well. I'm happy to prepare healthy, tasty, quick meals for us. I don’t do the housekeeping, but do ensure that the standard is tiptop. Hopefully, that offers a woman's point of view on how to be happy with a high earning man without being made to feel like an indentured servant. It's not about being too proud to do what needs to be done for your partner and family, it's about being valued, respected and genuinely loved by a man who isn't adding up your labour and functional contribution to 2 decimal places.
I have owned a construction business for almost twenty years now. I don't really like going on proper dates with women. I invite them to come and work for me. Kind of as a joke. Lots of them are interested in what I do and will actually offer to come and help. Psychologically it gets them into my program and in the mindset of helping me. It also puts me in my element and in a position of authority which is intoxicating for women. This is a win-win for both sides and in any long-term relationship, I want my girl to be supportive of my mission. Like we are a team and she is my side kick.
@@marktapley7571lol furdt though was… hey thsis actually sounds interesting and as soon as i saw your comment i though bruv this guy is right. 20years of this cant be working very well….
looking forward to hear the 3rd episode. so far so good, and yet - this will work for a short time only. if there is no emotional and intellectual connection, shared interests, activities and general approach on life - this would be a very memorable, great short-term, and yet NOT the woman to have a long partnership with. you can be useful, amazing in bed, but when it's over - there will be much more time to spend while not making love - so you must have something to talk about or have in common. otherwise the magic will dissipate after a year or two. but I guess that's the idea left for the final part :)
This is absolutely true. Similar intelligence level, ability to communicate at every level, similar life experiences, values and outlook on life, admirable character, compatible personality, interesting conversation and fun to hang out with, the list goes on and on. these things are product of self continuous improvement. I think best dating advice is to continuously improve one's character, everything else in life will improve as a result including relationships capabilities personalities state of mind etc
The obvious solution is to make sure you find a man that you’re compatible with and have similar goals and interests with BEFORE you sleep with them. Women sleep with men before they even know anything about them.
I am also a PsyD. and single. I disagree. If one of the ONLY ways to secure a man's love is to constantly seek to keep the sexual tension removed, then your perspective is being led by the wrong head. A valuable relationship to me, is one in which boundaries are established, and reasonable parameters and an understanding of when the appropriate time is to indulge in a physical relationship are agreed upon by both parties. I would say that if a man can't handle a reasonable time frame, and where the woman is coming from, then let him ride on... It's about time that men understand that a committed relationship has a myriad of variables other than sex. Especially, if one is not married. Perhaps giving in to the base (albeit natural) desires within a short time, is just giving a man what he wants without any emotional or reasonable physical investment on his part.
As I psychologist, I agree with you. It's nuanced and complicated. If a woman gives a man everything too easily, why would he want commitment? It's not impossible to get a man this way, but it's not the best recipe (if there is one), either.
It seems that you are adressing bedroom incompatibility and this is a valid point. If you want it once a week, it is bad if he wants once a day, even worse if once in 3 months. The one who wants it more will be annoying for the other. There is no guarantee, the best man in all aspects can be the worst in this aspect. And it is up to both involved if they want to find this out after few dates ... or after marriage. This video is, however, not about compatibility in bed. It is about getting a man, where a problem is the competition as many other women want him, too. He, and not you, is the prize, he can choose you, or any other woman, on noone at all. If you are not in such situation, you can forget those advice. If you are, you may apply the advice, get the man to commit, and still feel bad because of incompatibility in bed.
Once the ladies finish getting their advice, I hope doc will also share his thoughts the other way around about how guys can get a woman. Not any woman, just the woman right for them, and them for her.
Look at his previous posts. It's all in there. It's not easy since the woman is the decider, not the man. A man makes the offer and that's where all the hard work is --> up front. You can't make her like you. You have to be better than all her other possibilities or hope she sees something in you that she finds irresistible.
To add to my previous comment… Throwing sex at a man who is not interested in you to begin with is going to lower the value he has of you ‘even more’ in his mind after he hits it! He might hit it again when he is bored but this does not mean he is into you. Or that you have “hooked” him. This video is not a how to get any man... more like how to hoe yourself. How to lower your own personal self value by doing things to put a man on a pedestal while forgetting about your own needs and who you really are. If a man ‘Desires YOU’ the more you hold out the more he will fantasize about you and what he has not yet experienced between the sheets. It’s true, if he has other options he might not wait around, but a man who is serious about a long term commitment, assuming they want a woman who doesn’t spread her legs to any and everyone is going to want to feel he is special. Like the female he desires is a prize and that she chose him above all the other men out there. That is value. All this other stuff is wishful thinking and ill programming. Instant gratification but nothing to hold onto because it’s too easy to get. People value what they work hard for. Not what is simply handed to them. Men getting sex too easy is what’s wrong. Females putting out too early is what’s sad. People getting in bed with each other without knowing who they are sleeping with first.. is what’s creating emotionless connections that go no where. It’s the reason why one persons trauma gets passed to next person until it’s a cycle of no one can ever find anyone to commit to because everyone is infecting everyone with the same assign behavior. Wake up ..and instill some standards back into people minds. Not depravity and debauchery. …Please and Thank you.
I dont know how many women subscribe to this channel, but Orion just gave them the master key to a relationship with the man they want. The strategies laid out will work most of the time, guaranteed!! I wish women were this easy.
and if he watched too much/got too much of that experience already ... the woman has to somehow outcompete with THAT? and if she then gives birth to 3 of their kids, and the experience, and the feel of intimacy changes ... then what??? then he leaves, because he will "not go back on the things and feeling he got used to".... if that's what relationships truly are between men/women ... its a sad world
I am a woman, and i would never do this, believe me. I respect Orion, i am sure he is 100% right, but i simply do not want to have a relationship at this cost, too expensive. Thanks, but no thanks. I am single since 9 years, and if this is what it takes i will remain single for the rest of my life, no problem.
@@jelenajelena1244 what is the woman getting out of all of this? A man who loves not HER, but what she PROVIDES? Thankfully women in the Western world, at least, can provide a comfortable and dignified life for themselves, and no longer need to prostitute themselves to a man, becoming his servant in exchange for basic resources
@@jelenajelena1244 I respect your decision. But in most things in life, you won't get the results you want, if you dont put in the work. I wish you the best.
@@hk5454 don't know what to tell you, but men are quite used to the concept of outcompeting other men with the life style we provide high value momen. you should really contemplate on why this idea is so new to you. It isn't that sad anymore when you are being pampered with material goods from men, is it?
I am so confused. My father repeatedly told me, as a young lady, that if I sleep with a man too soon, (at least three dates before even considering going to bed with a man) he will lose respect for me, think i am a loose woman, and look for "relationship material" girls elsewhere. Was he lying to me? He said this is how men think - the second their orgasm is over, they will despise a woman for sleeping with them so soon, like she has no respect for herself. Please make it make sense. I'm a conservative lady and don't want to be thought of as a whore while a man moves on to wife material.
You're right. This particular advice is terrible. I have a better one. Do not have bedroom fun until marriage. Yes, stay a V-word. This is BY FAR the best chance to get a good man. The problem with having bedroom fun before marriage is that men can wait for months or even years in a few cases for bedroom fun. Of course they will leave you all the same after getting it. If you have given bedroom fun quickly (on the first three dates), you have no bargaining power anymore against good men. Either give bedroom fun quickly and be left, or the man will feel like he's getting a bad deal and leave you. That's why women are best to not have bedroom fun until marriage. Something is only valuable if it's rare.
@@OneFanHerethat's kind of what I thought too, aka, wait a while, but Dr. Taraban is saying you should jump in bed with a man you're interested in IMMEDIATELY
You've misunderstood him, Dr. T. that is. Listen to your father. My man told me that if we had sex on the first date, he wouldn't have called me. If a man can get laid quickly than any man can do it and therefore her faithfulness is questionable. Also Dr. T. was talking about high value men for which there is competition for, not for mid value men for which there isn't that much competition for.
I so relate to you. You are young I thing. I'm a mature woman growing up with incentives to act like a good girl. As women, I think we need to own our sexuality. We have bodies with great possibilities for pleasures. Being attuned to that doesn't make a woman unable to commit to one relationship. Being able to feel our urges, direct them, choose with who we will explore... That is all possible. I just so don't like that anglo saxon crap.... We are all humans and we can talk.
...Most still wont learn it because of 1, ego, society has pumped women's heads up so much that theyre profusely delusional in their believes and POV, and 2, women are slave to their emotions, which are fleeting. In majority cases, they will not deductively apply these tatics to lock down a man. Majority dont even know how to effectively choose a man long-term because of what? Emotions(he was cute, hot at the time, i was having a good time/drunk, he told me what I wanted to hear in that moment, etc...)..and then try to turn that man into a viable option for the future. Never fails!
One comment but I can't see it. This is happening on a lot of Dr. Taraban's videos because people talk like adults, I guess. To anyone disagreeing, I cannot tell you the joy of being able to really ring someone's bell, driving them crazy (in a good way), and making them weak at the knees for you. When you figure out how to do this for a good person, it's an amazing accomplishment. We're at this place in society where the (time to avoid getting my own comment banned) "fairer people" are taught that they shouldn't strive to have any utility for the "non-fairer people," that to do so is to live in support of the non-fairer people's-archy. As if doing thins that please one of them is somehow a betrayal against one's own people. So tired of it. And I'd like to see what the other commenter had to say, dangit.
@@robhulson Unfortunately many women will reveal their true self in this game before it is appropriate to do and they will ruin whole castle and it will hurt
While this part probably applies to women who have been sexually active, I feel like it needs a DISCLAIMER of CAUTION for young virgins. I am a psychological consultant and work with young women. So many of them think they found the one, or a high value man … only to discover that it was Chad. Now they’ve done the deed and feel like they have to sleep with all the other men, too. Discernment is a skill that many young people lack. Some of them really need help picking good men. This should be stressed more here. Other than that, I guess it’s true. I am married since 10 years and was unaware of what I was doing. Seeing this video confirmed what had worked. And I was not sexually active before meeting my husband … but I let him know I would be happy to be that with him 😊
This is the 1st women I have to agree with here. BUT that's not dr.orion fault, this is the fault of feminist who tells women they they can sleep around as much as they want, and that their body count doesn't matter. It's surely not man's fault, nor the good doctor who lied to women that being a virgin has zero or near zero value, but actually its the exact opposite, it's super valueble to many-many men. So maybe more women need to put out a DISCLAIMER of CAUTION to other women that Virginity if of Very High Value.
@@joshg854 I agree with you! Just thought of the young women who might see this video and misunderstand it … he did point it out with the passionate handholding example. It simply could have been a bit more stressed that virginity is extremely valuable - also or especially to high value men. And you‘re right: us women need to step up more and tell the truth! Modern feminism is actually anti-women and full of lies. Us women need to be held accountable, too. Thanks for your reply!
@@joshg854 I haven't gotten the message that feminists encourage promiscuity. Feminists are NOT monolithic. There are issues that most will side on but this is not one of them, kind of like abortion. There are many feminists that are against promiscuity and they spoke out during the sexual revolution, but men shut them down because men at the time saw FREE SEX. I grew up in the eighties and back then men started having sex younger than women and had higher body counts. It was men NOT feminists that encouraged pre-marital sex. I remember thinking, as a Christian that I would not be able to marry if I abstained from sex, you'd get dumped. The pressure from men was ENORMOUS. So I repeat, men encouraged promiscuity only now it's biting them in the face 😂 but they asked for it.
Bear in mind this doesn't work in dating someone who wants a virgin (still important in marriage). Your chastity is what is going to commend you, so the principle orion mentions is what's going to matter: you need to show you like him more than anyone else. How do you do that ifc you don't have sex? You can't have better friends who are men, you can't talk more or smile more around other people, you should spend more time with him than your girlfriends, etc etc.
He did say that if holding hands is the only thing she did so far then she has to do the nastiest and sexiest hand holding in her life. So I think it applies to virgins also. Basically she has to physically show him that she wants only him even if it is just hand holding or a back massage and that she never did those things with other men in that way and that intensity
A virgin? Do they even exist anymore or are they all extinct after 6th grade? I'm talking about women here because a full 30% of men under 30 have never had sex or have not had sex in a few years. That number is 8% for women.
See the 6:45 timestamp in the video. He specifically says, in relation to your past behaviour. If you are a shy virgin, hold hands in the most enthusiastic, passionate way you can. He will think "She is a virgin but really wants me above all others. I matter. I count. I bet she will be great going forwards". A man will estimate your past and come to the conclusion that his presence is driving you to greater levels of commitment and enthusiasm on your part.
I think it’s pretty clear that it is a man, who is formulating these points. Just like “You shouldn’t ask girls what they want in a man, you should ask other attractive guys what they do/think, when dealing with women”, the same applies the other way around. I’m sure this strategy will work with some men, especially sexually repressed men. But a guy with many options might just view you like that - another option that he will try out for some time, until the excitement wears off. Not all guys want to marry a “nasty” girl, many actually want conservative women or a deeper connection than sex.
You arent a real man, are you? you are a woman with a Man's name to fool people! the ONLY men who do NOT want a woman who is a 'Freak In the Sheets" is a man who is deeply emotionally damaged, depressed or something like that. A healthy man wants a Beast in his bed!
@@cosmictreason2242 I interpret it as being sexually aggressive/explorative within the relationship. A lot of guys will like that, but it’s not an automatic selling feature for a top 1% man. He has options available and will choose the best. Offering good sex won’t automatically make you more interesting. Personality and looks being of much greater importance.
@@mathias1dk And you interpreted it wrong. You forget that everyone has their own kind of "wavelength" their riding and broadcasting on. Orion speaks to the majority of men, like you pointed out yourself, and most men want pornstar levels of sex. If you don't want that, then the only thing you need to alter about this advice, is to communicate to your girl that you want more "tame" or normal sex or whatever. All Orion is saying in this episode is that women need to make their man feel special (surprise ladies, men want to feel special as well!), and one way to do that is using sex. Looks are completely and utterly subjective and varies from man to man, so giving general advice about that is pointless. The same goes for personality so how do you expect Orion to talk about this in the general sense?
I am absolutely convinced that I will never meet a woman that will make me feel like they like me more than anyone else. Quite the opposite actually, is what women delight in making me feel like. Needless to say, that's the last type of woman I would ever commit to
Thats because you probably haven't maximized yourself to your fullest potential. The women you meet haven't seen and thought of u enough to think they can't lose you. Become THAT dude, and i promise you will see more women gravitating and sticking around you.
@@Johnny-Cage so tired of the notion that men have to put in 100x more effort in life than women just to gain their approval. Especially when you know that sex is being handed out freely to guys who have put in zero work
Not only what Johnny-Cage said, but you need to seriously consider going on holiday to places outside the western world to meet women over there. You have no clue how much women are ready and willing to love you for who you are right now. Once you realize and see it for yourself, that will really open your eyes and spark your imagination as to what you can achieve when you put more work into yourself. The western dating market creates tunnel vision, as you start to believe that ALL women must be like this, but trying to say that to someone that has never tried to put their fishing rod in a different pond to attract more and better fish, is usually met with a hostile response. Take care my brother.
No woman will ever-EVER-like you for you. This is dangerous advice. You need to bring what they want. What they want is what you have to figure out, and if you want to deliver it, but always on your terms. What do women want? Everything, but they want it from the guy they want it from the most. In short: Hit the gym, the better physique the better, and only show it off through fitted clothing that highlights your features. Two: Make money, money, & more money. Pro tip hack: invest heavily early and let your money grow to point that in 20 years, you’re a multimillionaire. Image: let both those reflect in your image. Wear nice fitted shirts, press your pants, always have unscuffed shoes, a nice watch, a blazer, a suit. Car always clean. Home always clean. It will take 10 years to get there, but it’s worth it to be on easy mode rest of your life.
@@ThorMaximus exactly! This stuff doesn’t happen to 20 year old men (unless you are a sports star or actor) Normal men become the prize in the second half of their 30s. They’ve had time to travel, live and experience women. Their money has a chance to grow or their business should be rolling. Now they can get serious about settling down if they are interested in starting a family. And if they followed this path they should have a much better time of it than if they tried in their late teens or early twenties.
I loved this video, thank you very much! It's in line with what i also believed as well The first half confused me a little, but i see now there is no conflict between what Jordan Peterson says and what you say here He said a woman's worth is predicated on her ability to say no to a man Because if she says yes to everyone, the man will not need to earn her But if she can say no even to the man she wants most, it signals to him he can trust her and she is monogamous So my takeaway now is that yes, saying no is still important, also because then you as a woman will have a much easier time doing MORE for the man you want relative to your past relationships And you give him that exclusivity While reaping the benefits of giving the man that loyalty back coupled with a promise of absolute sexual gratification after marriage Which of course, will have to be kept, backed up with actions, and worked towards. Never make empty promises
New sub here from your interview with SWUB. I must say you have given me the answers I have been looking for. In my African traditional society we are taught how to be chaste like taught all this sacred things about staying pure until you get married. I practised that religiously in my early 20’s when my besties was having sex left right and centre. Funny thing is it was hard for me to date or rather get a boyfriend just because I wasn’t willing to have sex with them. Playing hard to get never got me anywhere! When my friend that was having sex with random men ended up getting a good provider man and I was just wondering why men go for “bad bitches” lol Now fast forward to how I met my now fiancé . This time I didn’t play games with him, he looked like a nice man gave up the kitty after 2 dates I had no expectations so I must say the chemistry was good or rather I rode the fuck outta that man’s soul. Here I am engaged! Soon to be married to a provider loving and kind man. If I played the hard to get games I would’ve lost him to another woman. Y’ALL NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS MAN! It works 💯
Or forget about the high value man. Go after mid value. Only go for high value if you don't have to drop your values.
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Just as a job interviewer won’t tell how much they paid previous employees, a candidate should not tell how much they were paid previously. That’s not smart from either parties as it would be way too intruding and could create unfair comparisons and unwanted assumptions. Also.. Just as an employee demands an employer proper safety gear to protect their physical health when doing hazardous work, a LOT of women seek at least some emotional security to feel comfortable enough for engaging in an intimate relationship. Many times it’s not punishment, it’s about safeguarding their emotional well-being especially with a man they really like which envolves much more impact on their feelings. You can’t feel comfortable with a man who’s always trying to bargain. And just because he’s high value, doesn’t mean he won’t try. For me, I see no point on trying to hook men through sex when I don’t feel safe. I won’t even get aroused. I’d rather save doing what I don’t 100% feel like doing (if at all) when in a reciprocal relationship with a man I love and care about his needs. I agree to some extent with the content of the video but I really think this is a recipe for getting hurt for a lot of women.
yep. the person in the clip basically advocates self-inflicted rape in order to better pleasure the man. I think it's better to just be single and happy, if such sacrifices are required. I mean, a man who is not willing to take your emotional and physical needs into account is probably not a man you want to spend years with and grow up kids with anyway. He isn't a reliable partner.
@@MrGianeta You do not need to be single, you just need to avoid competing for that 'high value man' you subconsciously want as the best option for material security for your family. You can as well live your life an average middle-class guy not experiencing exposure to any gold-diggers and happy to be with you.
Totally AGREE. I was married to a beautiful Dutch lady for 38 years until she died from cancer. Loved her til death do us part. She was a terror in the bed, a great cook and made two beautiful babies. And she helped build our business. There was no way in hell I could EVER dishonor this wonderful woman. I was so fortunate to share life with her and could have easily been together another 38 years
Your videos are greatly appreciated and I've gained insight from them. I usually agree with your perspective, however on this topic I strongly disagree with the "you can get ANY man you want". This is an unfair deception. replace any with "ALMOST" any, and I feel you are being more accurate. there are women that I absolutely would not make a commitment to, even though I would sleep with them, and even if they tried to add value to my life and respect me. Don't underestimate the importance of attraction in male selection, and the importance of feeling proud to call the woman "yours". I won't walk down main street holding any woman's hand- she has to meet my personal criteria to be mine and few women will fall in that category no matter how useful, sexual, and submissive they are. Tha
when you gave in too soon without knowing him that much, he’s going to think you do it with the whole street, we don’t sleep with “potential”, but with what he can do and provide for us not other way around
@@abi-ci8lh Well...the same women who talk like you two are the same giving it up easy for Chads...so if a guy has real options and he's not a dork you're trying to trap and settle down with....he won't wait. He'll just leave. You're still going to find an unattractive dork to settle with obviously, but the men you all actually want and desire don't wait...because they KNOW women give it up easy to those kinds of men. For men, and justifiably so, when they're made to wait, they know they're simply not "good enough". Not desirable/sexy enough.
As a man. I don’t mind waiting for sex from a woman I’m genuinely interested in. I’ll most likely respect her more for not being fast. There will be a point where I’ll get tired of waiting if she drags it out. So there’s definitely a balance. For me, if a woman makes it clear that she isn’t sleeping with anyone else while I’m waiting then I’m still down. If she doesn’t do a good job with making that clear, or is actually sleeping people while I’m waiting, all of this goes straight out the window. I will feel like she’s not that into me and I may start to feel I’m being used. If you’re making a man wait for the sake of his respect or for your own personal boundaries, at least give him security that you’re waiting just as he is.
I can see this technique backfiring. If she wants a relationship, and he just wants to get laid I'm not entirely sure things will work out in her favor.
Bro i got to disagree with you, which i usually don’t. I have consistant chemistry with woman so i’m trying to not choose a girl too quickly for my next relationship. The easier the sex, the faster i lose interest. But i do understand that if she behaves this way already, i’m not interested in her at all. It takes me a bit of time to bond and sex usually gets in the way, not the other way around
You are talking about personal experience. He is talking about men in general and, more specifically, those that women are chasing, so higher in status. Single outcome isn't enough to dismantle general observation for multiple outcomes.
@@NolandaNolanda Regardless, giving anecdotal evidence will always do little to nothing to contest general claim, even if that claim isn't supported by concrete evidence. If you want to contest it, provide evidence that general claim isn't true, not that in some specific case it isn't. My original point still stands.
He didn’t provide any evidence for his claim, so it can be thrown out as easily as the one i made. As far as i am concerned, no man likes a whore except men that have no choice but to. If she’s being “as nasty as possible”, you can deduct that she’s done that many times before with many other men and i dnt know about you, but i don’t wife that up. I just make damn sure to wear a condom . The logic isn’t that hard to grasp
The Bible says that in that day, 7 women will hold onto a man begging him to marry them and give them his name and they will take care of themselves. We're getting there. I'll gladly pass on this one. This advice is not for Christians i.e believers. In my opinion this should only be practiced within the context of a marriage to keep your husband hooked, not random 'high value men'.
the path to commitment and convenience is one. The path to commitment with respect and love is another. and commitment or exclusivity does not mean happiness, peace or connection.
This is new for us women when in the past they would tell us to uphold the sexuality and playing hard to get that's how they used to tell us . We are learning and relearning new things ❤❤❤❤
you did not get the point. it is not about upholding the sexuality. it is said that if you did it with another man before, then you need to do it with the man you want asap as well. because the new guy will think this way: why should I commit to this girl if this girl gave herself to another guy without any commitment (from that guy)?? if you did not have any sexuality before, then you do not have to do it with the new guy. if you give yourself to guy A, then do not expect anything from guy B, he won't commit to you. if you like guy B, then give yourself to guy B. men do not get jealous as the same as the women. if you try to make a guy be jealous of you by using another man, the guy won't see you as a valuable woman.
This was very hard to hear & quite frankly HEARTBREAKING 💔💔💔💔 but I appreciate you telling the truth about how the real world is in dating these days. God bless 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
As a woman I love the advice about sex - thanks! I've always been uncomfortable with the nonsense idea that you should "hold out" to make the guy "want" you more - there's some thing really quite creepy about that. Of course consenting adults should sleep together as soon as they want to if they feel safe and comfortable. Although I would add that women think about sex 100% of the time too - including when they have just had it!
@@paultag45 we saw all the videos. It's not a revelation, most women know this. A cook in the kitchen and a freak in the sheets. And watching your mouth is tied to respect.
Yup. To the half a dozen ladies watching this - he's right. My friends, colleagues, and family often asked me why I got with my (unfortunately, now) ex - we were together 10 years which is fairly good - instead of some of the prettier, slimmer ladies I was seeing at the time. This is why. These two things the good doctor has shared with you. Part of the reason we eventually grew apart is because one day she stopped doing these things (yeah it literally happenend over one night - but then expected me to carry on doing everything I was doing for her previously for the next six monthes). So it's not just a one and done deal either. You need to stick the course if you want to remain committed to one another. It's also important to remember that.
Brilliant. Using the analogies to slide from a female frame women would agree with to a male frame women probably haven't considered is the perfect way to tell hard truths. "just like women want a bad boy who is good just to them men want a good girl who is just bad for them"
My former SIL mastered the hook. She branch swung from my BIL doing 500k to an older, less attractive man bringing in 10mil. Like an octopus, she infiltrated every aspect of her new man's life to make herself indispensable and to prevent him from having the space and opportunity to ever wander.
@Ray_Gapist I found several of his videos instructional but this one disappointed me. Orion is promoting a "pickmesha" mindset, setting woman for a labour and s.. exploitation with a high risk of contracting STDs. If the premise is that the woman must outperform the other women (since this man has many options), it is likely that this man is sleeping around (thus, he is more likely a carrier of STDs). Even if the man was the most handsome guy in the world, the idea of him sleeping around renders him automatically as disgusting / undesirable. Much wiser options is to settle for an unattractive guy who is caring and generous than being in a relationship where a woman has to constantly prove her value and worry about her health. I expect that this video will not help him to grow his fanbase among intelligent women.
But for how long? If as you say a high-value man has so many options, what would keep him from moving on to the next woman after a few months of dallying with this one woman? Even in a normal marriage a man can lose interest after a few years. Good luck maintaining a high-value man's interest after a few weeks or months!
It is normally the woman who after she has the kids, who loses interest, not the man. This is evident by the fact that women file for divorce almost 80% of the time, not the man.
@@marktapley7571women file for more divorces after try everything and the men still keep the same behaviors and not see any problem on this. Eventually women gets tired of take the relationship all by herself.
I agree with you. I am done with high value man. Most of them are completely narcissistic people. The best option for women is to go for a men who has his eyes only on her. Who doesn’t care about other option. What exhausting is for women to keep a men with so many options. But this is something that only mature women can understand.
and if he watched too much/got too much of that experience already ... the woman has to somehow outcompete with THAT? and if she then gives birth to 3 of their kids, and the experience, and the feel of intimacy changes ... then what??? then he leaves, because he will "not go back on the things and feeling he got used to".... if that's what relationships truly are between men/women ... its a sad world
Everything stated herein works. 100%. Just a word of advice … for the love of God, choose these men/opportunities WISELY. If you give your everyTHING to everyONE you end up right where this video started off … a good man right in front of you with little left to give and an unwillingness to invest whatever you have left.
A women will usually say and actually believe that she makes a man wait for sex because she's dating him with the intention to have a committed relationship and she doesn't want to make a bad impression but that isn't the case. Its usually because women find men who are in the relationship category less attractive then men in the lover category. Women settle in relationships and they often will enter one without loving that particular man. Also, women who have slept around a lot will lose respect for a man as soon as he shows that he wants her for a committed relationship because if dozens or hundreds of men only wanted her for sex then why is this new man digging in the trash.
I find this advice confusing. Wouldn’t being very liberal sexually cause a man to presume she has a high body count, is easy access and therefore of less value in terms of commitment? I mean this sounds like the perfect recipe for ongoing situationship or relationship but not necessarily marriage proposal
You're right, you got it confused. What he stressed is that the sex you give him must be better than the sex you gave to other men, or else he won't feel special. So if you're sexually liberal and have done a variety of sexual activities with other men, then you have to up the ante with him. The underlying message is to not be too sexually liberal before him so as to set the bar low.
If the strategy isnt successful, then the 50th guy will quickly realize that the woman has been run through by too many other men. No man wants a jaded promiscuous woman. Sex won't set the hook IMO. There are many women who are good enough to have sex with but not good enough for a long term relationship. She shouldnt jump into sex from the onset with anyone. If the woman thinks she will lose the guy then she was punching above her league. After you know the guy has long term potential then affection (plenty and often) will reel him in.
Yeah I've been with an embarrassing (or legendary depending who you ask) amount of women, getting laid isn't special or exciting for me, I'm looking for someone serious who can mother my children. If a girl gives it up too soon, too easily or is too over the top sexually then I automatically assume she's for the streets and treat her accordingly. Men want a challenge, they want intimacy outside of the bedroom, they want affection and praise and peace. For $200 I can get "my wildest fantasies" fulfilled then get back to my mission, I don't need some woman I see wife potential in, fucking me after the first date like she just left a lengthy career in porn, that will only heighten my suspicions about her past and question her trustability in my future.
I agree that there has to be some value for the man, but it doesn’t necessarily focus on those two things you mentioned. I never helped my husband professionally, on the contrary, he has helped me in advancing my career, and I believe the value he is getting from it is being praised, being proud, respected, recognized as kind and clever and generous, etc. feeling like a strong male providing support and cover. This essential feeling of male-ness is what he is after, not a pillar to his business.
@Mega: nope! they'll compare Orion's advice to what they want to do and toss his advice in the dumpster. Then they'll promptly fail and declare that "all men are sh1t"
@@carlospita6442 Egos have nothing to do with it. It's one-sided advice that neglects the woman's sexual desires so it's doomed to fail in the long term.
But Orion needs to follow up that her sexual needs also need to be met. It's curious that he focuses only on her meeting his needs. But then he's directing this to women who are pursuing high value men, he's said so repeatedly. This advice for women will NOT work for red pill men. Low value men need to take a different approach than the high value man, because there's little competition for low value men, quite the contrary, low value men are faced with lots of competition. With a high value man it's the woman who has to give him the best sex he's ever had. In the case of low and mid value men, it's actually the man who has to give her the best sex she's ever had. This is what Dr. T. missed. Both benefit in the immediate and in the long term when the man makes her sexual satisfaction his priority.
What great advice for securing a shallow and soulless relationship by completely numbing yourself to any violations of your boundaries and physical body. If your number one priority is snagging a wealthy man, I guess this is a good way to go. There's also Sugar Daddy/Baby relationships. It's really much easier to just drop all self-respect and sense of purpose in life and just worship a successful man. They're so dreamy! I personally hope young women will listen to their hearts before they listen to this creep. It is completely shocking that would you say this so callously with no regard to the psychological state of the young women watching. I've been watching your videos lately and I had a feeling you hated women, but this really seals the deal. I would rather be a 80 year old single and celibate crazy cat lady than take this advice, setting myself up for a marriage built on lies, deceit, and a sex addiction that will fade with the inevitable decline of our bodies.
Don’t women want sex as well? If she is interested in the man and is sexually attracted to him, why shouldn’t she be having as much sex as she wants to have. She’s not debasing herself, she wants it too. The world needs less of this Christian Puritanism and, stop shaming woman for wanting what they want.
"What great advice for securing a shallow and soulless relationship by completely numbing yourself to any violations of your boundaries and physical body." If you did it in the past, then it already happened. If you did not do it in the past, then you don't have to do it. If you understand that he says the opposite of what he says, then you have a great future.
Did we watch the same video? Where does he suggest building a marriage on lies and deceit? I just hear a lot of honest advice about what would be most effective to get a high-demand guy to stay with you. If it doesn't seem worth it for you, you don't have to take the advice.
Take a look at his next video were he talk about low value women in America, and high value women in Japan. If that does not hit you like a sledge hammer you have a problem.
This is true but he clearly states that this is for women who want a high value man. If you just want to exploit a simp, go do it, but you will get bored.
Why? Because it seems like too much effort? There needs to be effort on both sides in a relationship. To be honest, it's not that much effort. Also watch the first video of the series. But if you'd rather stay single, your choice, men will be glad to let you go if you are not willing to put in the effort and will look elsewhere for someone who does.
Absolutely true again. Funniest part is waiting for all of the "I DID THIS AND MY MAN STILL LEFT ME" posters from the first video to come to this video and explain that they were still regularly providing the man mindblowing sex. I'll wait. I'm sure that's exactly what Orion is still going to explain in part 3.
💯 nothing but facts. Too many femcels complaining this doesn't work, when Orion clearly stated in the first episode of this series, and again in this episode, that this advice is only for women who want to get a man. The femcels didn't put in the work, failed miserably, and now all men are bad, advice given about this is bad, and other women will have to be silenced and put down in order to keep the femcels company in their loneliness.
Do you have any suggestions for women who struggle in this area because they are abstinent until marriage/engagement for religious or other reasons? I am finding that, while modern discussions surrounding the characteristics of high-value women suggest purity is extremely desirable, most men do not actually want this. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you for your content, Doc.
1. Christians shouldn't let the world disciple them. Orion is not the one to get advice from, Doug Wilson, Paul Washer, Voddie Baucham etc are 2. Don't desire ungodly men. The "most men" in your comment. If you consent to play with them, you lose your opportunity with godly men forever 3. If you're not born again but just "religious," you may as well get off the fence and go full harlot or else take the Bible seriously, because your behavior now is inconsistent and going to cause worse outcomes than one or the other. Eg repressed slutty catholic girls are worse than pink haired lesbians or homeschooled virgins. Pick a lane.
Your purity should get you a high value man, be picky. Only women like you get to be as picky as they want. My advice is go for the ring before you do anything. Go to places where successful men frequent, good luck.
Thank you for the loving advice. The key word there is "should." But in reality, all men want sex and the majority will do what they have to do to get it. You either can't get past a third or fifth date without being dumped for not putting out, or a guy dates you and gets it elsewhere behind your back until he's ready to marry you. It's frustrating to receive this contradicting information- be willing to put out, and freaky AF too, yet be a virgin. Have sex with the guy early on to hook him, but don't be misled into thinking that the length of time you've been in a relationship and the seriousness of the relationship correlate. ... Is it just me, or is this extremely contradictory?
@@nancytoregas9380 it is, because the advice is not coming from the same place and given to the same people. The advice about putting out is only valid to women of low morals who have already done that and have no moral reason not to keep doing it. If you are a virgin but have no reason why, then you need to sort that out before you start dating and ruin your life. If you don't want to listen to Christians for relationship advice, you are going to be frustrated by contradictory advice because that is all you're going to get from the world. Your choice
Ladies! Super important to remember this is advice for women who are not attractive enough to catch the attention of the man they want naturally. If you are attractive, your best option is to pick the best of the men chasing you. Way less stress.
@ShekaGolden no man is going to be exactly what you want. You can either pick the one that already likes you, that's closest to your ideal or you can chase the one you "want". Maybe it will work out but you'll never feel like he chose you. And then if it doesn't work out, you will have just wasted time.
@@ASTROJJEN choosing and chasing are two different things. I’ve always had options and chosen the man I wanted and NEVER had to chase one. Telling a guy that you wanna get to know him better doesn’t equal buying him flowers and taking him on dates. If you’re not confident enough to get what you want out of life just say that, but don’t try to project it onto others.
@ShekaGolden whoa whoa whoa it seems I've struck a chord here. Who said anything about confidence? It's not about confidence. It's about seeing their raw character. Are they motivated without me prompting them to be? Simply put- if I have to tell a man I want to get to know him better in order for him to pursue me, I don't want him. Point blank. I wanted the one who saw me and said "I want that. I'm gonna do what it takes to get her attention, show her I'm worthy, and then continuously show up for her with love and care." I wanted that to be a decision he made without me needing to prompt him. But everyone's preferences are different. If you like to be the initiator /main driver of the relationship, you go right on ahead girl! I'm sure there are many men out there that are down for the ride.
@@ASTROJJEN So you do not want the 'high value man' who will not want to pursue you just because he is possibly aware of your existence, but definitely aware of existence of other women interested in him, trying to know him better and be known better by him. You do not want to compete for such a man and rather be happy with a man who competed to get you. Understood, I am also a less ambitious person - I have not competed for some better positions in the business - I am happy with the position where they are happy to have me for sure. This Mr. Orion explains in the first minute of his video it is not for you but for those who WANT to make couple with such a 'high value man'.
I think you’re on to something I dress very feminine always in dresses, showing my hourglass figure in a modest way. I have long hair and always smile with eye contact to strangers. Head held high and always walk with great posture. I think I do this not only to look and feel my best but most women want to dress to blend in. They are afraid to stand out. And they do not get the attention that I do. Another thing I do is I stay skinny. My competitors are mostly overweight now which makes most men gravitate to us few women that are more appealing to look at in public. How do I know? I’ve watched men as I sit at the mall and I know exactly what makes them turn their head. If you stand out your irreplaceable.
@@allenlin7333 Exactly! Women HATE having to do anything earn their life! They simply want men to do all the work, and they collect the rewards! Women are almost as lazy as they are dumb! LOL
Give him/ her what he/she wants so he/she can't get that elsewhere or to anyone 😊. Fulfill their desires, needs and wants in all aspect . Is it hard ? Yes of course it takes effort to do that . This is for both man and woman in a relationship.
Women will tell gay men and other women their secrets. Be like a gay man, don't judge. Then, joke around about what insecure men are like, and she will start to spill her history.
A colleague of mine ended relationship with his girlfriend because she was not into oral pleasuring though, as he found out, she 'loved it' in her younger age. I think he got this info from her former classmate and still the 'best friend' who heard that from the lucky boy, after they broke up. And she even confirmed it is true by saying she was just young and stupid that time... and he was unable to process this reasoning as a man who planned to marry her. You see, even I know it now - if she ever happen to be my partner...
I also agree with Jordan Peterson. He said that a sophisticated woman says "NO" and high-value men appreciate that. Women: Take time to get to know somebody. Being promiscuous / "easy" is not good for anybody. This should be common sense to men too. Both should want someone who has self control. (Video: "The Main sign that SHE IS GOOD.")
I don't want a bad boy as a woman. I want a good man who values me for more than just naughty sex. My fiancé would disagree with this advice. He used to get turned off by women throwing themselves at him performing cirque du Soleil acts in the bedroom past his twenties. It's definitely NOT what keeps high value men hooked long-term AT ALL. It's just a great part of a committed relationship.
@lilylife4425 Word. Thank you. The arrogance in this video is off the charts. A total turn off. Life has a funny way of teaching us a thing or two and I detect some real lessons ahead in his future. I'm chuckling at his naivety, superficiality, immaturity and materialistic view on life. Being a good, kind, humble generous person is the master key. This advice is like one of those plastic motel slide a key cards. A life partnership goes way beyond the frivolous surface stuff described here. 'Doc' has much to learn about the complexities and deep layers of a woman. He comes across as uninteresting, self serving and one dimensional.
Well, this video is one part of three. This alone won't keep a man hooked, but it is a critical piece of the puzzle. Most of the complaints seem to be people who are forgetting that this is part of a three part series :)
This is the opposite of what women are usually told. We are told men fall in love when they put effort into you. It’s said you have to make them work for it.
Those are basically lies. As a guy, we want to commit to a girl who is more sexually open to us than any of her past partners. This is why it’s advisable for women to not be promiscuous before getting married so that the bar is set much lower.
Dusties try to trick and de-valuate you; so, you give it for free. Ambitious men like challenges (beside they can afford to pay for these type of services, if they need to). If you want a driven, successful man, then do not act like a pickmeisha. Orion is teaching women to give a desperate vibe and end up exploited.
@@NolandaNolanda- I can describe you just by your choice of words. Here goes: Black Woman, 30-45 years old, Single AF, Masculine, Hostile, Aggressive, Over-bearing, Disagreeable, Uncooperative, Combative, Loud and ill-tempered.
@@dna2dna275 💯 this! .. Don't know who tells women this crap "We are told men fall in love when they put effort into you. It’s said you have to make them work for it." All it does is show me that you are not interested in me and make me move on to someone else.
Due to popular demand, this is the second episode in a three-part series on how women can get any man they want -- even if they are not exceptionally attractive. Men are not complicated. To secure a relationship with any man they have direct access to, women only need to do two things (and not do one thing). This episode is about the second thing, the Hook. This is how women capture men. In order to hook a man, women have to be the nastiest, slutiest versions of themselves possible. A woman's sexual behavior is the primary way men gauge her interest and attraction. So she needs to do things for him that she hasn't done with any other man -- and, ideally, that he hasn't done with any other woman.
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this series is what ive been trying to express my whole life....but i didnt have the communication skills that you do....thank you so much for this.
I once was in a relationship with a woman who was wildly attracted to me. She was both useful and very accommodating sexually. But I never could respond back in kind. There was just something missing. I'll be interested to see what the "don't do's" are to see where she may have screwed up. In the end however, she found the right guy who truth be told, was a much higher value man than me.
How to manipulate men to get married so you can freeze him out after marriage. lol
@@romeobodeodo Now this is why I am struggling with this and the previous video; it sounds like women should do all the things a wife does, without being a wife (being useful to a man and sexually accommodating to him)?
(Don't come for me, it's an honest query, just trying to understand.)
"Men want a good girl who's just bad with them" is a wonderful way to put it.
Sort of, but not really. We want "our own" woman, who is good. Sexual attraction to her man is never bad, just natural.
Oddly enough with women it's the opposite, they want a bad guy who is only good to them 😂
...and girls want a bad boy who's good just for them
bad as in kinky and slutty.. not evil@@eQuariuz
4 replies, I see only one.
I'm afraid too many women will take away from this little more than the idea that sleeping with a man is all they need to do to get him. So they'll keep hooking up with every guy they can and then keep wondering why they can't get a man for a committed relationship.
Thats why this video is part of a series.
Yeah they'll miss the main point which was that you have to give him more than you give anyone else, not that that necessarily has to be sex
If that is what they get out of this, then they did not listen. She has to first make herself useful. Otherwise, she will not be taken seriously.
Oh, I agree. But those other points require more self-reflection and effort, which is why I think they'll likely be overlooked.
...hell, theyre already doing this...lol. Women are horrible at choosing men, but they do know the base of getting one's attention; sex. They never think beyond in most cases, and if they do, its marginal...a few componenets here and there. Ego, stains from other men create disdain for future men, simply dont care, no appreciation for men in general...there's alot of reasons that will get in the way of them EFFECTIVELY receiving this message, AND being able to deductively apply it
The moment a woman tries to punish you with sex is the moment the relationship is over
If there is no progress in a relationship the sex must stop.
and i give them a pimp slap before i leave, just cause
@@SPACEDOUT19 wrong channel, this is about serious relationships
......or just really beginning
Or at least it should be...
*The most painful thing is losing yourself in the process of loving someone too much, and forgetting that you are special too.*
No one is special. That's the trap. Nothing more fucked up than needing to be, feel, be treated as or whatever "special"... perhaps working on people to be the one making them "special" is even worst. That's evil.
Then that’s the wrong guy
Ladies, there’s a video from Jordan Peterson where he explains the best tool a woman has that is attractive to high value men, is her ability and willingness to say NO. Because when you have options, you don’t feel the urge to say yes to every guy so know your worth and have enough self respect not to be accessible to just anyone! Also have a life outside of dating, don’t focus on men or relationships, focus on you. You should have your own life, hobbies and ambitions & you should be just as busy as that high value man you’re chasing. Most importantly, don’t forget that if you give yourself too quickly and too easily then he won’t see you as a high value woman therefore won’t invest in you in the long run.
I second this.
These videos are for women seeking ONLY "high value" men. The women who ONLY want HVMs do NOT have "options." There are MANY, MANY, MANY, MAANNY women compared to the men who are 6 feet, 6 pack, 6 inches, and 6 figures.
Your points holds true when a man is chasing a woman. If that woman waits a while before having sex with that man, she increases her value to that man. However, the example in the video is of a woman chasing a very high value man who has many immediate options with no compelling reason to commit to any one particular women. In that situation, if the high value man is the woman's biggest desire and her best possible option, then it makes sense for that woman to take Dr. Taraban's advice - she has nothing to lose and everything to gain (so long as she understands that the man might still not commit since nothing is certain).
I think your advice is better than the video's. I agree 100%.
Spot on. As a man I would not even consider to commit to a woman with no life, hobbies and ambitions.
Make his life easier, not harder. That's it. Wanna be irresistible to him? Do what he wants you to -while demonstrating that you're not passive but have a brain of your own
If a man returns from a stressful day at the office and his wife adds to his stress rather than subtracts from it, the relationship is doomed.
He should be more precise to women though… they’re 4-5s in the face aiming for men out of their league that can attract super models (8-9-10s) this is what a lot of men are complaining about. No matter what those women do they’ll never be able to bag those men long term.
Most of the time, an ugly or average woman will be with a high value man because she was there when he was broke, those average women will never find commitment from an established man.
@@dpstrial this can be very difficult to do for because some men are very mean after a stressful day. Then want the female to do his emotion labor. Then grab for her body at night. In reality, many men need to have better emotional regulation. Not look for the female partners to take away his stress.
@@avig8334 I meant it in a general sense. Of course it can work the other way around, when a man constantly adds to a woman's stress. One of the problems today is that women appear to want to compete against men rather than complement them. It can't possibly work. Regards.
As someone who has been happily married for ten years, it makes me slightly proud of my 20-something self to have, somehow, subconsciously known and applied this wisdom.
Yeah, it's really not that difficult for women. Just don't be a one night stand and actually want a relationship without leading them on. It's really not that difficult.
@@g3nj1 yes, but enough women seem to get it wrong that he felt the need to make this video in the first place. Also, what you are saying is the requirement to land a relationship with a regular man. From what I understand, this video is aimed at women who want a man that many other women want.
just feed him and give him sex and don’t whine every day. most women can’t get it right.
I'm guessing that if you're *happily* married after ten years, you didn't shut down the hot sex once you locked him down. Wish more women embraced that consistency.
There are reasonable limits to what one allows to be done with them in bed.
I've never known anyone to "get it" more than Orion. This series is gold!
@hoe_math is also on the ball -- check him out
One reply, I see none.
Likely bots who are trying to scam, so they get reported eventually@@doru4248
Too bad no women will watch this or care
For real, this guy is a fucking gangster!
Note, that he is talking about a high value man. Attractive, financially successful, well rounded and has morals. If you want a woman that provides these things, you'll have to do the work as well. Wipe off the dorito dust. Don't expect to receive a woman that will do this for you but your mission is not starving at the end of the month because you can barely afford rent. Become a king, don't just call yourself one and wait.
most people get marry in 25-35 years, this is for leftovers and how to tame some james bond
Think it was Peaky Blinders where the older matriarch was educating a younger woman: “never let him leave the house without his stomach full and his balls empty”.
As a woman, looking forward for part 3.
Ladies, no point in arguing. If you have a strategy that works for you, stick with it. The bottom line is that when a strategy doesn’t work, you have to change it. From my view as an old married guy, it seems to me a lot of younger people need this guy’s advice.
the problem is when my strategy was more avoidant (not fully, but to an extent), I had better success with a man wanting a relationship, but now that I'm more securely attached, the main thing I get is men ghosting, even those who initiated and were upfront with wanting to date me for/towards a relationship
@@Adriana.Gabriela I’m not at all familiar with this attachment stuff. Also, telling you what worked for me likely won’t be helpful. If you are dating, and not lonely, I think you are likely doing fine.
I agree with you. There's not one strategy that always works for everyone. When I was less attractive, I had more men talking to me and flirting with me. My looks have improved as I got older and to my surprise, single men just avoid me like a plague. I had more opportunities when I was less physically attractive.
This is one of the few videos I disagree with you on. This basically just encourages hookup culture & the situation we’re in currently….top 10-20% of men getting all of the “love” without needing to commit.
Yes!
That's why the previous video in the series is important. It's a combination of those two things and whatever the third is.
The gist of his advice was "do what benefits males, s*xually, and males will pick you.".... Yeah sure. As if there isn't enough h**kups already happening. He also pointed out the *importance* of giving it to the *right* guy as if the woman can foresee everything. I don't know how people come up with this stuff. He setting it up so that he can reject her during the relationship, after he got everything he wanted from her. S*x will never be enough for him because either he doesn't know it or he does, but doesn't care. This is how they create females players.
Hook up culture does not involve women being useful to men in areas other than sex
@@bluebay0 THANK YOU! Someone who watched the first video! There is a reason why this is a series and NOT one 45 minute video! LOL
I want to appeal to women. If you've had sex on the first date once and you are not comfortable with doing that ever again, *Do Not* go against your conscience.
Move on from your mistakes. Don't repeat them.
Never have sex on the first date - its soooo dangerous... Its like suicide.. He can finish you just for that later if its a psychopath.. Need to take time to get to know a person well enough... it doesn't matter how many he can have others but not you...
Well put.
If you don't want to have sex with the guy on the first date, he's not the one for you. That you did that with a guy that you didn't want to do it with is unfortunate, and you shouldn't have done that. But Orion is right: No self-respecting man, especially a man with options, will stay with a woman that makes him wait for sex more than someone else (if he finds out). And if he does stay, your relationship will never be as good as before he found out. You cannot charge a higher price than the original for a used product. Most men are fine with a woman that isn't a virgin, especially if she has a single digit body count. Making him wait longer than his predecessors is a much bigger deal-breaker!
And don’t tell anyone either. Just say “I don’t sleep with anyone on the first date”
Totally Agree! Just because you've "done it before" does NOT mean you should do it ever again!
I think all men should give all women the same advice they would give to their daughter. Would anybody here recommend this to their daughters: Sleep with the guy you like as fast as you can? (As fast as you can probably includes before you even get to know him better and; therefore, before you even know you really like him.) And also, a lot of women don't like to move so fast. They prefer to get emotionally involved first. But the first video of the series was great in my opinion.
I have my doubts about the first video.
@@canelareina3795 If he meant women behaving as a partner in an egalitarian relationship, instead of as a "prize", then I agree. But if he meant being a maid, I disagree. I think he meant the first thing, but I'm not really sure.
It's okay advice for gold diggers.
Women, who are actually marriage material, should relax and enjoy what a man does for her. She should be light, sweet, appreciative, admiring, and fun. He will know at first glance, or within 3 weeks if he wants to marry her. He will marry her within 6 months, so no other man will have her, and he can help her more, and finally get her completely. (Sex, see her daily, have children)
The majority of women are not marriage material. They don't want to get married until they are run-through and burned-out and almost infertle. "I want to get marrried some day but not right now because I'm still young and focused on my career. I've got to be independant."
All the while they collect more and more hearttbreak and baggage.
Then they act like a jaded boss b*/ches at home.
I don’t think he is saying as fast as you can as a blanket statement to all women. But if you have slept with a man on the first date (and he knows you did), then if you don’t with this man, he will think you are not crazy about him because you gave it up so quickly for someone else. I tend to wait for sex myself.
@@ThePhabulousYvelise But he is saying a "high-value" man with many options won't wait and he thinks waiting or not is just a strategy for women. They don't understand that most women prefer to wait as a natural process that is better for both. If a guy has no patience and self control to wait and take things slow, what self control will he have to be faithful in the future? They just think it is a strategy, manipulation, punishment or reward. It sounds like men that think in this way give zero value to building an emotional and spiritual connection first.
A man with options will never look at sex as a reward
EXACTLY
pure sex is never a reward. sex can be bought very cheaply in many countries. but passionate desire-driven sex will always be a reward for men if the women are high value enough themselves.
True
Then explain what he will see as a reward. You think the alternative is rewarding? Not getting any while she got her back broken in the past by some other dude?
A man who is on top of the pyramid has access to ALL women. He is going to be picky yes, and he can get sex from any women, but that is exactly what Orion is trying to explain. Episode one talked about usefulness, this one about sex, and part 3 will be the last puzzle piece that women need in order to get any man they want. All three puzzle pieces will set her apart from other women, not just one of them. The man at the top of the pyramid has access to women who possess all three puzzle pieces, individually. But finding a women that has managed to combine all three is very, very rare and will set her apart from the very, very large crowd that a man like that can choose from.
@@masterTigress96 Well said.
Ironically, many women pursue the exact opposite. The relationship guy gets the "prude" while the casual guy gets her most sexual version
We are back to the pride, Orion talked about in the last episode.
I think this is what he addresses here. If you want the relationship, you should be as wild and kinky as with him as you were with that casual guy.
Trust me. Most men do not know how to have sex... the books and movies have a better show.
It’s actually a huge compliment to the relationship guy when women hold back it mean they care A LOT about winning that person over. Actually when a woman sleeps with a man easily, there’s two reasons that stick out a) he was incredibly persuasive and her passion for him was stronger than her self control. Or B) it’s because she doesn’t respect him enough to care what he thinks about her. This is an important caveat that’s being overlooked.
@@metalandhammer I agree that B is often true in terms of how women see it, but this does not change the guy's perception. Women don't value sexual access like men because it's cheap and easy for them even "mids" whereas sex is usually more difficult for men to attain
As an older woman, what works for me is charm, flirting and soft seduction, never to the point of "slutty" or "nasty". Rarely have they cheated or walked out on me, and when the relationship ended, time was up and we were both ready to move on. But the ONLY way to make the charm/flirting/seduction happen is when there is undeniable chemistry, with both parties, in the beginning. Otherwise, forget it.
@TaifuXanGaming You poor miserable thing. Keep listening to "advice" because the reality of life is still new to you.
Great episode, here's to hoping the third installment come out
Women, this advice gives us ownership of the sexual drives we have and all the nasty things we fantasize about doing to our men. But if the guy you’re with doesn’t make you wanna be nasty, maybe he’s not the one you want to be with. So be your nasty self with the one you want!
The issue is the men that most women want to be nasty with are chads, regardless of how ugly the woman herself is, and those chads have tons of options. Why would they want to commit to a long term relationship with a 5/10 girl when they can get with a 7/10 girl instead who has an even better personality?
So it all comes down to compromise. Maybe the guy who is willing to commit to you is a 5/10 in the looks department. You should learn to adjust a little and push yourself to do certain things that you aren’t enthusiastic about. The guy is doing exactly the same thing. If you weren’t having sex with him, he wouldn’t be taking you out on fancy dates and listen to your problems. The relationship with him is transactional in nature.
@@dna2dna275 liking, loving, falling in love, attraction out, trading in. so you should make this trading fun, not some torturing because chauvinists from the internet will laugh at you because you are a single woman. unfortunately I did something wrong and it is not OK now
That is not what he said.... jezz..... you women manage to f..k up everything. This about what YOU should do, NOT about your feelings. If you are in a relationship you should continue to f..k his brains out in order to keep him. If you are not happy in your relationship you should work on YOURSELF, that is probably the cause of the issue. If you are older than 30 there will be absolutely no chance for you to find a quality man that will be in a relationship with you. Men have sex with everybody, even quality men has that, but to get involved in a relationship for such a man, he has a different set of standards... one of them is that the woman should be under 30.
@@Oslohiker ok now we need set of videos "how to be with poor quality men in the relationship" because we have them at least
That’s so true!!
In my observation, it leads to an escalation of more extreme sexual experiences from one high value man to another. When a man finds out what others have done he starts treating a woman differently and no longer sees her as a potential wife and doesn't introduce her to family. They may stay exclusive but she will notice subtle differences and that it doesn't seem to go anywhere. She becomes a placeholder no matter how useful she is. Some men just lose respect knowing what she did with others and the hoops she is willing to go through when she has no real committment from him. It's not a good look for her.
She may still be treated nicely but he does not see a real future with her and ends up marrying the one who said no to certain things and had boundaries. Some of these men really test a woman and want one to say no. Some of these men may keep an adventurous woman on the side as their mistress later on. A lot focus on their legacy, self-development, and career.
yes, she's not a sophisticated woman
@@verycherry4459 Most men with options know most women have done some very freaky stuff with other men, so while it is in a way a man's job to bring that out of a girl (being sexually attractive himself, being able to make her feel safe and not judged), he knows that if she won't do it for him....he's deemed as a dork by the woman and that she'll be wishing and fantasizing about other men...whether she acts on it or not...because she had a better and more extreme sexual experience with another man.
Just like women, men don't want to be settled for and be seen as a lame or dork, and most women are willing to be with dorks while fantasizing about others on the side (and acting on it at times more often than men realize).
So, this is why I've always believed that a woman who sticks to traditional values and makes ANYONE, no matter who he is, wait...she'll end up more fulfilled. Problem is these days women will sleep around and be encouraged to do it more than ever...and men with options know it too.
Yep!!
First advice is better.
The value based game, it helps you bond with him in the most genuine way.
For high value men who are sexually experienced or addicts, you won’t be their first rodeo no matter what you do.
Do what’s best for your mental health ladies. Find men who are actively working on themselves.
A happy marriage is the prize.
💯💯💯. On point!!!!!
Yes, yes, yes. Do what's best for your mental health. If you have to jump through hoops and neglect your sexual satisfaction just to have him than dump the high value man for someone healthier for your sex life.
Its interesting. Im a decent looking guy and I own and operate my own business. Ive never been married. I tend to have great experiences with women although there have been a few exceptions. My point is that I talk with so many men who let themselves get caught up in sexless marriages and bad romantic situations. The thought of a woman treating them well is foreign to them and the women they are involved with. Guys If a woman is into you she will be polite and helpful as hell outside the bedroom and a complete demonic freak inside the bedroom. Once I figured this out I never let that not be be dynamic between me and whoever I was dating. However we as men need to actually be desirable both in the way we look physically, and how we command respect emotionally. Meaning if we as men are objectively valuable physically, mentally, and financially, then we are rewarded greatly by the women who enthusiastically enter our frame. Great video Orien! No one breaks down these concepts better than you do. Period!
“Demonic freak in the bedroom?” 😬 yikes 😱
I really like your confidence :)
But this is extremely risky for women who feel they give everything to a man (help him, be useful, have amazing sex) and get nothing in return…because why buy the cow…so we re moving backwards a little these days, just to regain a bit of lost power.
Demonic freak, yeah ok. Part of what men need to work on to make themselves valuable is to meet her erotic needs too, and help out with the domestics. That seems to be missing from advice videos like this one. There is a very serious Orgasm Gap that is to blame for these sexless marriages. Orion's video is of no help because he's only focused on the man's sexual needs, not the woman's. AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM. Seems to be that only his sexual needs matter and not hers. Please google the Orgasm Gap, it seems you need to be educated on this, Orion is only one perspective. Lesbians don’t have this problem, this is strictly a heterosexual problem because all too often it’s the guy who gets the sexual attention. We need better sex education in schools.
Fatigue does further damage.
Women still take on a disproportionate amount of the domestics despite being a co-breadwinner. Marriage and children take up a lot of a woman's energy. Fatigue is the NUMBER ONE libido killer for women.
When you combine that with the Orgasm Gap then it should not be surprising that she loses interest in sex.
So men add value by not tiring her out with domestics and one-sided sexual demands.
When sex is good for her also she will be better able to maintain the sexual energy in the long term.
When he prioritizes her erotic needs and helps out with domestics than he is adding real value.
Hope this helps.
Orion, usually I agree strongly with your perspectives, but this one seems way off. I am one man who has vast optionality with women. My problem is not a lack of sexual availability, but of few women who have the potential to be wives and mothers. Frankly speaking, loose women are unqualified for family life. If I see potential in a woman I will not push matters sexually, since I want to show I have self-control and can be trusted. Further, I look for a conservative woman with as few previous partners as possible.
Watch the whole series.
Sure. His video lacks common sense.
Wisdom has entered the chat!!! Thank you! You won the common sense award most humans lack
Hi Fergus- thank you for sharing WISDOM that stands the test of time! I agree with you here.
This is the best comment.
Agreed, but as Dr. T points out, doing these things does nothing to satiate a man’s desire for variety. It simply puts you in a better position to be his priority among the other options he has.
You are absolutely correct, which is why Orion says to never let him leave home on an empty stomach. This could work most times if the woman works to keep things fresh under the sheets.
A woman who can naturally embody that variety can satiate that need
@@eliztaylore - No, she can’t.
While true, good men also want good women... and understand the need for loyalty. Much easier to stave off the tendency for promiscuity while being satiated.
@gabriel: few men outside the top 10% - 20% have options available, but as we all know 90% of women throw themselves at 10% of the men.
Some men deal with lots of insecurities and need women to fill their void. It is overwhelming to have too much attention. In theory it feels good to know you could have nearly any guy you want but in reality, feeling their desire and energy coming towards you, it's too much. Throughout the animal kingdom, the female chooses her mate. Watch. Interact. Choose specifically,clearly let that interest be known, let that interest grow to be reciprocated. There are few feelings better than being wanted by the one you want. Nat King Cole sang it so nicely" Darling it's incredible that someone so unforgettable thinks that I am unforgettable too." Thanks.
thank you. Literally in this situation now as a woman.
My experience of being rather successful with wealthy men (and I'm quite well off myself) is not to be submissive, obedient, cook, and clean.
Rather, I make the effort to look and smell great; to be enjoyable and engaging company and an accomplished conversationalist. I am curious and educate myself on all types of subjects. Manners and a gentle, mischievous sense of humour will welcome you almost everywhere.
I make sure we do interesting things together that build lovely experiences and memories. Even when it's difficult and I'm tired, I try to be agreeable even when disagreeing. One of my superpowers is creating a happy, beautiful, and comfortable home where things work really well. I'm happy to prepare healthy, tasty, quick meals for us. I don’t do the housekeeping, but do ensure that the standard is tiptop.
Hopefully, that offers a woman's point of view on how to be happy with a high earning man without being made to feel like an indentured servant.
It's not about being too proud to do what needs to be done for your partner and family, it's about being valued, respected and genuinely loved by a man who isn't adding up your labour and functional contribution to 2 decimal places.
I have owned a construction business for almost twenty years now. I don't really like going on proper dates with women. I invite them to come and work for me.
Kind of as a joke. Lots of them are interested in what I do and will actually offer to come and help. Psychologically it gets them into my program and in the mindset of helping me. It also puts me in my element and in a position of authority which is intoxicating for women. This is a win-win for both sides and in any long-term relationship, I want my girl to be supportive of my mission. Like we are a team and she is my side kick.
You’ve been doing this for almost 20 years with no resolution? Don’t know about intoxication but you probably got a reputation.
@@marktapley7571lol furdt though was… hey thsis actually sounds interesting and as soon as i saw your comment i though bruv this guy is right. 20years of this cant be working very well….
@@marktapley7571 What does resolution mean to you?.
Getting Married?
@@marktapley7571 There's a food that women can eat. That makes their p**** dry up like the Sahara Desert.
It's call wedding cake
that's actually good game
Thanks!
looking forward to hear the 3rd episode. so far so good, and yet - this will work for a short time only. if there is no emotional and intellectual connection, shared interests, activities and general approach on life - this would be a very memorable, great short-term, and yet NOT the woman to have a long partnership with. you can be useful, amazing in bed, but when it's over - there will be much more time to spend while not making love - so you must have something to talk about or have in common. otherwise the magic will dissipate after a year or two.
but I guess that's the idea left for the final part :)
maybe next part is about housekeeping too, books he like and housekeeping; how to cook that it looks effortlessly
This is absolutely true. Similar intelligence level, ability to communicate at every level, similar life experiences, values and outlook on life, admirable character, compatible personality, interesting conversation and fun to hang out with, the list goes on and on. these things are product of self continuous improvement. I think best dating advice is to continuously improve one's character, everything else in life will improve as a result including relationships capabilities personalities state of mind etc
The obvious solution is to make sure you find a man that you’re compatible with and have similar goals and interests with BEFORE you sleep with them. Women sleep with men before they even know anything about them.
I am also a PsyD. and single. I disagree. If one of the ONLY ways to secure a man's love is to constantly seek to keep the sexual tension removed, then your perspective is being led by the wrong head. A valuable relationship to me, is one in which boundaries are established, and reasonable parameters and an understanding of when the appropriate time is to indulge in a physical relationship are agreed upon by both parties. I would say that if a man can't handle a reasonable time frame, and where the woman is coming from, then let him ride on... It's about time that men understand that a committed relationship has a myriad of variables other than sex. Especially, if one is not married. Perhaps giving in to the base (albeit natural) desires within a short time, is just giving a man what he wants without any emotional or reasonable physical investment on his part.
Thank you, darling…
As I psychologist, I agree with you. It's nuanced and complicated. If a woman gives a man everything too easily, why would he want commitment? It's not impossible to get a man this way, but it's not the best recipe (if there is one), either.
All your likes and responses are from women except me. What does that tell you 😂😂😂😂😂. Delusional women.
Yeah, ok. Where are these paragraphs when Mr hot and exciting comes around? 🚮
It seems that you are adressing bedroom incompatibility and this is a valid point. If you want it once a week, it is bad if he wants once a day, even worse if once in 3 months. The one who wants it more will be annoying for the other. There is no guarantee, the best man in all aspects can be the worst in this aspect. And it is up to both involved if they want to find this out after few dates ... or after marriage.
This video is, however, not about compatibility in bed. It is about getting a man, where a problem is the competition as many other women want him, too. He, and not you, is the prize, he can choose you, or any other woman, on noone at all. If you are not in such situation, you can forget those advice. If you are, you may apply the advice, get the man to commit, and still feel bad because of incompatibility in bed.
I feel like this only works for men who don't want to get married.
Which are the ones most women want…
I would be good with marrying and this is spot on.
Once the ladies finish getting their advice, I hope doc will also share his thoughts the other way around about how guys can get a woman.
Not any woman, just the woman right for them, and them for her.
Fishing vs hunting
Look at his previous posts. It's all in there. It's not easy since the woman is the decider, not the man. A man makes the offer and that's where all the hard work is --> up front. You can't make her like you. You have to be better than all her other possibilities or hope she sees something in you that she finds irresistible.
Thanks
Thanks!
To add to my previous comment… Throwing sex at a man who is not interested in you to begin with is going to lower the value he has of you ‘even more’ in his mind after he hits it! He might hit it again when he is bored but this does not mean he is into you. Or that you have “hooked” him. This video is not a how to get any man... more like how to hoe yourself. How to lower your own personal self value by doing things to put a man on a pedestal while forgetting about your own needs and who you really are.
If a man ‘Desires YOU’ the more you hold out the more he will fantasize about you and what he has not yet experienced between the sheets. It’s true, if he has other options he might not wait around, but a man who is serious about a long term commitment, assuming they want a woman who doesn’t spread her legs to any and everyone is going to want to feel he is special.
Like the female he desires is a prize and that she chose him above all the other men out there. That is value. All this other stuff is wishful thinking and ill programming. Instant gratification but nothing to hold onto because it’s too easy to get.
People value what they work hard for. Not what is simply handed to them.
Men getting sex too easy is what’s wrong. Females putting out too early is what’s sad.
People getting in bed with each other without knowing who they are sleeping with first.. is what’s creating emotionless connections that go no where. It’s the reason why one persons trauma gets passed to next person until it’s a cycle of no one can ever find anyone to commit to because everyone is infecting everyone with the same assign behavior.
Wake up ..and instill some standards back into people minds. Not depravity and debauchery.
…Please and Thank you.
Your comment is way better than this video. People have lost common sense.
@@elainer8288 Thanks. This video is a nice try. The only women taking this advice are the ones who already follow it.
I couldn't agree more! woman got devalued, woman now these days are putting men on pedestal.
@@user-ie9in8hq2x Only the ones that deserve it should be there. Character matters.
Everbody is being too promiscuous and it is causing a big mess.
I dont know how many women subscribe to this channel, but Orion just gave them the master key to a relationship with the man they want. The strategies laid out will work most of the time, guaranteed!! I wish women were this easy.
and if he watched too much/got too much of that experience already ... the woman has to somehow outcompete with THAT? and if she then gives birth to 3 of their kids, and the experience, and the feel of intimacy changes ... then what??? then he leaves, because he will "not go back on the things and feeling he got used to".... if that's what relationships truly are between men/women ... its a sad world
I am a woman, and i would never do this, believe me. I respect Orion, i am sure he is 100% right, but i simply do not want to have a relationship at this cost, too expensive. Thanks, but no thanks. I am single since 9 years, and if this is what it takes i will remain single for the rest of my life, no problem.
@@jelenajelena1244 what is the woman getting out of all of this? A man who loves not HER, but what she PROVIDES? Thankfully women in the Western world, at least, can provide a comfortable and dignified life for themselves, and no longer need to prostitute themselves to a man, becoming his servant in exchange for basic resources
@@jelenajelena1244 I respect your decision. But in most things in life, you won't get the results you want, if you dont put in the work. I wish you the best.
@@hk5454 don't know what to tell you, but men are quite used to the concept of outcompeting other men with the life style we provide high value momen. you should really contemplate on why this idea is so new to you. It isn't that sad anymore when you are being pampered with material goods from men, is it?
I am so confused. My father repeatedly told me, as a young lady, that if I sleep with a man too soon, (at least three dates before even considering going to bed with a man) he will lose respect for me, think i am a loose woman, and look for "relationship material" girls elsewhere. Was he lying to me? He said this is how men think - the second their orgasm is over, they will despise a woman for sleeping with them so soon, like she has no respect for herself. Please make it make sense. I'm a conservative lady and don't want to be thought of as a whore while a man moves on to wife material.
You're right. This particular advice is terrible.
I have a better one. Do not have bedroom fun until marriage. Yes, stay a V-word. This is BY FAR the best chance to get a good man. The problem with having bedroom fun before marriage is that men can wait for months or even years in a few cases for bedroom fun. Of course they will leave you all the same after getting it. If you have given bedroom fun quickly (on the first three dates), you have no bargaining power anymore against good men. Either give bedroom fun quickly and be left, or the man will feel like he's getting a bad deal and leave you.
That's why women are best to not have bedroom fun until marriage. Something is only valuable if it's rare.
@@OneFanHerethat's kind of what I thought too, aka, wait a while, but Dr. Taraban is saying you should jump in bed with a man you're interested in IMMEDIATELY
@@caitlinallen8400He didn't say this at all. Watch the video again. 6:45 particularly.
You've misunderstood him, Dr. T. that is. Listen to your father. My man told me that if we had sex on the first date, he wouldn't have called me. If a man can get laid quickly than any man can do it and therefore her faithfulness is questionable.
Also Dr. T. was talking about high value men for which there is competition for, not for mid value men for which there isn't that much competition for.
I so relate to you. You are young I thing. I'm a mature woman growing up with incentives to act like a good girl. As women, I think we need to own our sexuality. We have bodies with great possibilities for pleasures. Being attuned to that doesn't make a woman unable to commit to one relationship. Being able to feel our urges, direct them, choose with who we will explore... That is all possible. I just so don't like that anglo saxon crap.... We are all humans and we can talk.
Thanks
As a man, I can't agree more! Some women get it. Some need to learn it.
...Most still wont learn it because of 1, ego, society has pumped women's heads up so much that theyre profusely delusional in their believes and POV, and 2, women are slave to their emotions, which are fleeting. In majority cases, they will not deductively apply these tatics to lock down a man. Majority dont even know how to effectively choose a man long-term because of what? Emotions(he was cute, hot at the time, i was having a good time/drunk, he told me what I wanted to hear in that moment, etc...)..and then try to turn that man into a viable option for the future. Never fails!
One comment but I can't see it. This is happening on a lot of Dr. Taraban's videos because people talk like adults, I guess.
To anyone disagreeing, I cannot tell you the joy of being able to really ring someone's bell, driving them crazy (in a good way), and making them weak at the knees for you. When you figure out how to do this for a good person, it's an amazing accomplishment.
We're at this place in society where the (time to avoid getting my own comment banned) "fairer people" are taught that they shouldn't strive to have any utility for the "non-fairer people," that to do so is to live in support of the non-fairer people's-archy. As if doing thins that please one of them is somehow a betrayal against one's own people.
So tired of it. And I'd like to see what the other commenter had to say, dangit.
“Most” need to learn it
@@robhulson Unfortunately many women will reveal their true self in this game before it is appropriate to do and they will ruin whole castle and it will hurt
@robhulson what's the fairer ppl??? I get the rest, true...
While this part probably applies to women who have been sexually active, I feel like it needs a DISCLAIMER of CAUTION for young virgins. I am a psychological consultant and work with young women. So many of them think they found the one, or a high value man … only to discover that it was Chad. Now they’ve done the deed and feel like they have to sleep with all the other men, too. Discernment is a skill that many young people lack. Some of them really need help picking good men. This should be stressed more here. Other than that, I guess it’s true. I am married since 10 years and was unaware of what I was doing. Seeing this video confirmed what had worked. And I was not sexually active before meeting my husband … but I let him know I would be happy to be that with him 😊
This is the 1st women I have to agree with here.
BUT that's not dr.orion fault, this is the fault of feminist who tells women they they can sleep around as much as they want, and that their body count doesn't matter.
It's surely not man's fault, nor the good doctor who lied to women that being a virgin has zero or near zero value, but actually its the exact opposite, it's super valueble to many-many men.
So maybe more women need to put out a DISCLAIMER of CAUTION to other women that Virginity if of Very High Value.
@@joshg854 I agree with you!
Just thought of the young women who might see this video and misunderstand it … he did point it out with the passionate handholding example. It simply could have been a bit more stressed that virginity is extremely valuable - also or especially to high value men.
And you‘re right: us women need to step up more and tell the truth! Modern feminism is actually anti-women and full of lies. Us women need to be held accountable, too.
Thanks for your reply!
@@estairwaythank you for saying this! ❤
He did address that. He said of all you have done is hold hands with a man you must hold your new man's hand sluttier.
@@joshg854 I haven't gotten the message that feminists encourage promiscuity. Feminists are NOT monolithic. There are issues that most will side on but this is not one of them, kind of like abortion. There are many feminists that are against promiscuity and they spoke out during the sexual revolution, but men shut them down because men at the time saw FREE SEX.
I grew up in the eighties and back then men started having sex younger than women and had higher body counts. It was men NOT feminists that encouraged pre-marital sex. I remember thinking, as a Christian that I would not be able to marry if I abstained from sex, you'd get dumped. The pressure from men was ENORMOUS.
So I repeat, men encouraged promiscuity only now it's biting them in the face 😂 but they asked for it.
Bear in mind this doesn't work in dating someone who wants a virgin (still important in marriage). Your chastity is what is going to commend you, so the principle orion mentions is what's going to matter: you need to show you like him more than anyone else. How do you do that ifc you don't have sex? You can't have better friends who are men, you can't talk more or smile more around other people, you should spend more time with him than your girlfriends, etc etc.
He did say that if holding hands is the only thing she did so far then she has to do the nastiest and sexiest hand holding in her life. So I think it applies to virgins also. Basically she has to physically show him that she wants only him even if it is just hand holding or a back massage and that she never did those things with other men in that way and that intensity
@@SimpleFarming05i have no idea why your comment is only visible under "newest first"
A virgin? Do they even exist anymore or are they all extinct after 6th grade? I'm talking about women here because a full 30% of men under 30 have never had sex or have not had sex in a few years. That number is 8% for women.
See the 6:45 timestamp in the video. He specifically says, in relation to your past behaviour. If you are a shy virgin, hold hands in the most enthusiastic, passionate way you can. He will think "She is a virgin but really wants me above all others. I matter. I count. I bet she will be great going forwards". A man will estimate your past and come to the conclusion that his presence is driving you to greater levels of commitment and enthusiasm on your part.
@@dharmadasa66 exactly
I think it’s pretty clear that it is a man, who is formulating these points.
Just like “You shouldn’t ask girls what they want in a man, you should ask other attractive guys what they do/think, when dealing with women”, the same applies the other way around.
I’m sure this strategy will work with some men, especially sexually repressed men. But a guy with many options might just view you like that - another option that he will try out for some time, until the excitement wears off.
Not all guys want to marry a “nasty” girl, many actually want conservative women or a deeper connection than sex.
I think you missed the point he was making when he said "nasty"
You arent a real man, are you? you are a woman with a Man's name to fool people! the ONLY men who do NOT want a woman who is a 'Freak In the Sheets" is a man who is deeply emotionally damaged, depressed or something like that. A healthy man wants a Beast in his bed!
Nasty as in kinky and enthusiastic in the bedroom, conservative outside the bedroom. It's that simple.
@@cosmictreason2242 I interpret it as being sexually aggressive/explorative within the relationship. A lot of guys will like that, but it’s not an automatic selling feature for a top 1% man. He has options available and will choose the best. Offering good sex won’t automatically make you more interesting. Personality and looks being of much greater importance.
@@mathias1dk And you interpreted it wrong. You forget that everyone has their own kind of "wavelength" their riding and broadcasting on. Orion speaks to the majority of men, like you pointed out yourself, and most men want pornstar levels of sex. If you don't want that, then the only thing you need to alter about this advice, is to communicate to your girl that you want more "tame" or normal sex or whatever. All Orion is saying in this episode is that women need to make their man feel special (surprise ladies, men want to feel special as well!), and one way to do that is using sex. Looks are completely and utterly subjective and varies from man to man, so giving general advice about that is pointless. The same goes for personality so how do you expect Orion to talk about this in the general sense?
I am absolutely convinced that I will never meet a woman that will make me feel like they like me more than anyone else. Quite the opposite actually, is what women delight in making me feel like. Needless to say, that's the last type of woman I would ever commit to
Thats because you probably haven't maximized yourself to your fullest potential. The women you meet haven't seen and thought of u enough to think they can't lose you. Become THAT dude, and i promise you will see more women gravitating and sticking around you.
@@Johnny-Cage so tired of the notion that men have to put in 100x more effort in life than women just to gain their approval. Especially when you know that sex is being handed out freely to guys who have put in zero work
Not only what Johnny-Cage said, but you need to seriously consider going on holiday to places outside the western world to meet women over there. You have no clue how much women are ready and willing to love you for who you are right now. Once you realize and see it for yourself, that will really open your eyes and spark your imagination as to what you can achieve when you put more work into yourself. The western dating market creates tunnel vision, as you start to believe that ALL women must be like this, but trying to say that to someone that has never tried to put their fishing rod in a different pond to attract more and better fish, is usually met with a hostile response. Take care my brother.
No woman will ever-EVER-like you for you. This is dangerous advice.
You need to bring what they want. What they want is what you have to figure out, and if you want to deliver it, but always on your terms.
What do women want? Everything, but they want it from the guy they want it from the most.
In short: Hit the gym, the better physique the better, and only show it off through fitted clothing that highlights your features.
Two: Make money, money, & more money. Pro tip hack: invest heavily early and let your money grow to point that in 20 years, you’re a multimillionaire.
Image: let both those reflect in your image. Wear nice fitted shirts, press your pants, always have unscuffed shoes, a nice watch, a blazer, a suit. Car always clean. Home always clean.
It will take 10 years to get there, but it’s worth it to be on easy mode rest of your life.
@@ThorMaximus exactly! This stuff doesn’t happen to 20 year old men (unless you are a sports star or actor) Normal men become the prize in the second half of their 30s. They’ve had time to travel, live and experience women. Their money has a chance to grow or their business should be rolling. Now they can get serious about settling down if they are interested in starting a family. And if they followed this path they should have a much better time of it than if they tried in their late teens or early twenties.
I loved this video, thank you very much!
It's in line with what i also believed as well
The first half confused me a little, but i see now there is no conflict between what Jordan Peterson says and what you say here
He said a woman's worth is predicated on her ability to say no to a man
Because if she says yes to everyone, the man will not need to earn her
But if she can say no even to the man she wants most, it signals to him he can trust her and she is monogamous
So my takeaway now is that yes, saying no is still important, also because then you as a woman will have a much easier time doing MORE for the man you want relative to your past relationships
And you give him that exclusivity
While reaping the benefits of giving the man that loyalty back coupled with a promise of absolute sexual gratification after marriage
Which of course, will have to be kept, backed up with actions, and worked towards. Never make empty promises
this is contradictory to what he says that women choose in herds. Go back watch the whole video
New sub here from your interview with SWUB. I must say you have given me the answers I have been looking for. In my African traditional society we are taught how to be chaste like taught all this sacred things about staying pure until you get married. I practised that religiously in my early 20’s when my besties was having sex left right and centre. Funny thing is it was hard for me to date or rather get a boyfriend just because I wasn’t willing to have sex with them. Playing hard to get never got me anywhere! When my friend that was having sex with random men ended up getting a good provider man and I was just wondering why men go for “bad bitches” lol
Now fast forward to how I met my now fiancé . This time I didn’t play games with him, he looked like a nice man gave up the kitty after 2 dates I had no expectations so I must say the chemistry was good or rather I rode the fuck outta that man’s soul.
Here I am engaged! Soon to be married to a provider loving and kind man. If I played the hard to get games I would’ve lost him to another woman.
Y’ALL NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS MAN! It works 💯
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Many of such man have already had it in all ways possible, so you can't compete with that. You can just have your best performance
Or forget about the high value man. Go after mid value. Only go for high value if you don't have to drop your values.
Just as a job interviewer won’t tell how much they paid previous employees, a candidate should not tell how much they were paid previously. That’s not smart from either parties as it would be way too intruding and could create unfair comparisons and unwanted assumptions.
Also..
Just as an employee demands an employer proper safety gear to protect their physical health when doing hazardous work, a LOT of women seek at least some emotional security to feel comfortable enough for engaging in an intimate relationship. Many times it’s not punishment, it’s about safeguarding their emotional well-being especially with a man they really like which envolves much more impact on their feelings.
You can’t feel comfortable with a man who’s always trying to bargain. And just because he’s high value, doesn’t mean he won’t try.
For me, I see no point on trying to hook men through sex when I don’t feel safe. I won’t even get aroused. I’d rather save doing what I don’t 100% feel like doing (if at all) when in a reciprocal relationship with a man I love and care about his needs.
I agree to some extent with the content of the video but I really think this is a recipe for getting hurt for a lot of women.
yep. the person in the clip basically advocates self-inflicted rape in order to better pleasure the man. I think it's better to just be single and happy, if such sacrifices are required. I mean, a man who is not willing to take your emotional and physical needs into account is probably not a man you want to spend years with and grow up kids with anyway. He isn't a reliable partner.
All I think about are the women who had to endure this for centuries. I'm glad I'm living in these times.
@@MrGianeta You do not need to be single, you just need to avoid competing for that 'high value man' you subconsciously want as the best option for material security for your family.
You can as well live your life an average middle-class guy not experiencing exposure to any gold-diggers and happy to be with you.
Totally AGREE. I was married to a beautiful Dutch lady for 38 years until she died from cancer. Loved her til death do us part. She was a terror in the bed, a great cook and made two beautiful babies. And she helped build our business. There was no way in hell I could EVER dishonor this wonderful woman. I was so fortunate to share life with her and could have easily been together another 38 years
00:00 Intro
01:48 The Hook
03:04 Why The Hook
06:26 It's All Relative
08:30 You're gonna have Trouble
11:21 Sex is Cheap
14:17 Summary
15:22 End
Many thanks :)
Yeah, many, thanks, yeah, good job, bro, thanks, man. appreciate it, very much.
Upvote this!
Your videos are greatly appreciated and I've gained insight from them.
I usually agree with your perspective, however on this topic I strongly disagree with the "you can get ANY man you want". This is an unfair deception. replace any with "ALMOST" any, and I feel you are being more accurate.
there are women that I absolutely would not make a commitment to, even though I would sleep with them, and even if they tried to add value to my life and respect me.
Don't underestimate the importance of attraction in male selection, and the importance of feeling proud to call the woman "yours".
I won't walk down main street holding any woman's hand- she has to meet my personal criteria to be mine and few women will fall in that category no matter how useful, sexual, and submissive they are.
Tha
Spoken like a real man.
when you gave in too soon without knowing him that much, he’s going to think you do it with the whole street, we don’t sleep with “potential”, but with what he can do and provide for us not other way around
facts!
What has he done for you to command that?
@@abi-ci8lh Well...the same women who talk like you two are the same giving it up easy for Chads...so if a guy has real options and he's not a dork you're trying to trap and settle down with....he won't wait. He'll just leave. You're still going to find an unattractive dork to settle with obviously, but the men you all actually want and desire don't wait...because they KNOW women give it up easy to those kinds of men. For men, and justifiably so, when they're made to wait, they know they're simply not "good enough". Not desirable/sexy enough.
As a man. I don’t mind waiting for sex from a woman I’m genuinely interested in. I’ll most likely respect her more for not being fast. There will be a point where I’ll get tired of waiting if she drags it out. So there’s definitely a balance.
For me, if a woman makes it clear that she isn’t sleeping with anyone else while I’m waiting then I’m still down. If she doesn’t do a good job with making that clear, or is actually sleeping people while I’m waiting, all of this goes straight out the window. I will feel like she’s not that into me and I may start to feel I’m being used.
If you’re making a man wait for the sake of his respect or for your own personal boundaries, at least give him security that you’re waiting just as he is.
Well said!
I can see this technique backfiring. If she wants a relationship, and he just wants to get laid I'm not entirely sure things will work out in her favor.
Bro i got to disagree with you, which i usually don’t. I have consistant chemistry with woman so i’m trying to not choose a girl too quickly for my next relationship. The easier the sex, the faster i lose interest. But i do understand that if she behaves this way already, i’m not interested in her at all. It takes me a bit of time to bond and sex usually gets in the way, not the other way around
You are talking about personal experience. He is talking about men in general and, more specifically, those that women are chasing, so higher in status.
Single outcome isn't enough to dismantle general observation for multiple outcomes.
That's a you thing and not the general way most of us see it
@kresovk5 Orion did not support his claims by peer reviewed studies either. His video presents his personal opinions, only.
@@NolandaNolanda Regardless, giving anecdotal evidence will always do little to nothing to contest general claim, even if that claim isn't supported by concrete evidence. If you want to contest it, provide evidence that general claim isn't true, not that in some specific case it isn't.
My original point still stands.
He didn’t provide any evidence for his claim, so it can be thrown out as easily as the one i made. As far as i am concerned, no man likes a whore except men that have no choice but to. If she’s being “as nasty as possible”, you can deduct that she’s done that many times before with many other men and i dnt know about you, but i don’t wife that up. I just make damn sure to wear a condom . The logic isn’t that hard to grasp
The Bible says that in that day, 7 women will hold onto a man begging him to marry them and give them his name and they will take care of themselves. We're getting there.
I'll gladly pass on this one. This advice is not for Christians i.e believers.
In my opinion this should only be practiced within the context of a marriage to keep your husband hooked, not random 'high value men'.
the path to commitment and convenience is one. The path to commitment with respect and love is another.
and commitment or exclusivity does not mean happiness, peace or connection.
This is new for us women when in the past they would tell us to uphold the sexuality and playing hard to get that's how they used to tell us . We are learning and relearning new things ❤❤❤❤
if you are not ready for sex you are not upholding the sexuality, or readiness doesn't exist at all
This has changed because most are 304s
I'm still not offering myself up like a piece of meat
you did not get the point. it is not about upholding the sexuality. it is said that if you did it with another man before, then you need to do it with the man you want asap as well. because the new guy will think this way: why should I commit to this girl if this girl gave herself to another guy without any commitment (from that guy)?? if you did not have any sexuality before, then you do not have to do it with the new guy.
if you give yourself to guy A, then do not expect anything from guy B, he won't commit to you. if you like guy B, then give yourself to guy B. men do not get jealous as the same as the women. if you try to make a guy be jealous of you by using another man, the guy won't see you as a valuable woman.
@@TheMaxymama nothing is guaranteed even if you do
This was very hard to hear & quite frankly HEARTBREAKING 💔💔💔💔 but I appreciate you telling the truth about how the real world is in dating these days. God bless 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
As a woman I love the advice about sex - thanks! I've always been uncomfortable with the nonsense idea that you should "hold out" to make the guy "want" you more - there's some thing really quite creepy about that. Of course consenting adults should sleep together as soon as they want to if they feel safe and comfortable. Although I would add that women think about sex 100% of the time too - including when they have just had it!
You go girl, as a woman I agree.
Please don't focus on the Sex part of the video. It only works after you have made yourself useful for something in his life other than sex.
@@paultag45 we saw all the videos. It's not a revelation, most women know this. A cook in the kitchen and a freak in the sheets. And watching your mouth is tied to respect.
@@EC-yl7xk and yet most women don’t do this. If they do it’s usually with the wrong guy.
Women’s sexuality changes over the decades. It’s not a good idea to discuss past relationships and compare them.
As a guy I agree. This would definitely work. The only exception would be if she was insufferable outside of fun time.
Yup. To the half a dozen ladies watching this - he's right.
My friends, colleagues, and family often asked me why I got with my (unfortunately, now) ex - we were together 10 years which is fairly good - instead of some of the prettier, slimmer ladies I was seeing at the time.
This is why. These two things the good doctor has shared with you.
Part of the reason we eventually grew apart is because one day she stopped doing these things (yeah it literally happenend over one night - but then expected me to carry on doing everything I was doing for her previously for the next six monthes). So it's not just a one and done deal either. You need to stick the course if you want to remain committed to one another. It's also important to remember that.
I’ve had a VERY similar experience with my ten year relationship haha
Brilliant. Using the analogies to slide from a female frame women would agree with to a male frame women probably haven't considered is the perfect way to tell hard truths.
"just like women want a bad boy who is good just to them men want a good girl who is just bad for them"
My former SIL mastered the hook. She branch swung from my BIL doing 500k to an older, less attractive man bringing in 10mil. Like an octopus, she infiltrated every aspect of her new man's life to make herself indispensable and to prevent him from having the space and opportunity to ever wander.
This is horrible.
First time reading SIL or BIL, I googled it but can't find the defintion. What is a SIL or BIL?
@@masterTigress96 sister in-law, brother in-law. There's also MIL and FIL.
Thanks man, take care @@northernguy8860
Your SIL = sister in law was with your BIL = brother in law?! That’s odd… 😵💫
As great as this info is, I can't imagine a women listening to it.
The format and tone still resonates to explaining it to a man
There's quite a few women in these comments. I think slowly his fanbase is growing in the amount of women
@Ray_Gapist I found several of his videos instructional but this one disappointed me. Orion is promoting a "pickmesha" mindset, setting woman for a labour and s.. exploitation with a high risk of contracting STDs. If the premise is that the woman must outperform the other women (since this man has many options), it is likely that this man is sleeping around (thus, he is more likely a carrier of STDs). Even if the man was the most handsome guy in the world, the idea of him sleeping around renders him automatically as disgusting / undesirable. Much wiser options is to settle for an unattractive guy who is caring and generous than being in a relationship where a woman has to constantly prove her value and worry about her health. I expect that this video will not help him to grow his fanbase among intelligent women.
But for how long? If as you say a high-value man has so many options, what would keep him from moving on to the next woman after a few months of dallying with this one woman? Even in a normal marriage a man can lose interest after a few years. Good luck maintaining a high-value man's interest after a few weeks or months!
Utility keeps a man in place. Some may stray, but they never ever leave.
It is normally the woman who after she has the kids, who loses interest, not the man. This is evident by the fact that women file for divorce almost 80% of the time, not the man.
@@marktapley7571women file for more divorces after try everything and the men still keep the same behaviors and not see any problem on this. Eventually women gets tired of take the relationship all by herself.
I agree with you. I am done with high value man. Most of them are completely narcissistic people. The best option for women is to go for a men who has his eyes only on her. Who doesn’t care about other option. What exhausting is for women to keep a men with so many options. But this is something that only mature women can understand.
and if he watched too much/got too much of that experience already ... the woman has to somehow outcompete with THAT? and if she then gives birth to 3 of their kids, and the experience, and the feel of intimacy changes ... then what??? then he leaves, because he will "not go back on the things and feeling he got used to".... if that's what relationships truly are between men/women ... its a sad world
Everything stated herein works. 100%. Just a word of advice … for the love of God, choose these men/opportunities WISELY. If you give your everyTHING to everyONE you end up right where this video started off … a good man right in front of you with little left to give and an unwillingness to invest whatever you have left.
A women will usually say and actually believe that she makes a man wait for sex because she's dating him with the intention to have a committed relationship and she doesn't want to make a bad impression but that isn't the case. Its usually because women find men who are in the relationship category less attractive then men in the lover category. Women settle in relationships and they often will enter one without loving that particular man. Also, women who have slept around a lot will lose respect for a man as soon as he shows that he wants her for a committed relationship because if dozens or hundreds of men only wanted her for sex then why is this new man digging in the trash.
15 minutes of truth bombs! Great video. I'm looking forward to the third video of the series.
Me too
I find this advice confusing. Wouldn’t being very liberal sexually cause a man to presume she has a high body count, is easy access and therefore of less value in terms of commitment? I mean this sounds like the perfect recipe for ongoing situationship or relationship but not necessarily marriage proposal
You're right, you got it confused. What he stressed is that the sex you give him must be better than the sex you gave to other men, or else he won't feel special. So if you're sexually liberal and have done a variety of sexual activities with other men, then you have to up the ante with him. The underlying message is to not be too sexually liberal before him so as to set the bar low.
If the strategy isnt successful, then the 50th guy will quickly realize that the woman has been run through by too many other men. No man wants a jaded promiscuous woman. Sex won't set the hook IMO. There are many women who are good enough to have sex with but not good enough for a long term relationship. She shouldnt jump into sex from the onset with anyone. If the woman thinks she will lose the guy then she was punching above her league. After you know the guy has long term potential then affection (plenty and often) will reel him in.
Yeah I've been with an embarrassing (or legendary depending who you ask) amount of women, getting laid isn't special or exciting for me, I'm looking for someone serious who can mother my children. If a girl gives it up too soon, too easily or is too over the top sexually then I automatically assume she's for the streets and treat her accordingly. Men want a challenge, they want intimacy outside of the bedroom, they want affection and praise and peace. For $200 I can get "my wildest fantasies" fulfilled then get back to my mission, I don't need some woman I see wife potential in, fucking me after the first date like she just left a lengthy career in porn, that will only heighten my suspicions about her past and question her trustability in my future.
i think you should watch the first video of this series
"There are many women who are good enough to have sex with but not good enough for a long term relationship."
@@masterTigress96 Think carefully about the timestamp starting at 6:45 in the video.
You didn't watch the first video in the series did you?
I agree that there has to be some value for the man, but it doesn’t necessarily focus on those two things you mentioned. I never helped my husband professionally, on the contrary, he has helped me in advancing my career, and I believe the value he is getting from it is being praised, being proud, respected, recognized as kind and clever and generous, etc. feeling like a strong male providing support and cover. This essential feeling of male-ness is what he is after, not a pillar to his business.
Very good.
Orion. You’re giving them the cheat code. Hopefully they pay attention and execute the steps.
I doubt it. Their egos don't allow it
@@carlospita6442what you call ego I call dignity. I wouldn’t give my dignity way for any men in this planet.
@Mega: nope! they'll compare Orion's advice to what they want to do and toss his advice in the dumpster. Then they'll promptly fail and declare that "all men are sh1t"
No
@@carlospita6442 Egos have nothing to do with it. It's one-sided advice that neglects the woman's sexual desires so it's doomed to fail in the long term.
Good lord. Orion once again understands. So far, this series is the whole RedPill message to woman in 2 videos.
But Orion needs to follow up that her sexual needs also need to be met. It's curious that he focuses only on her meeting his needs. But then he's directing this to women who are pursuing high value men, he's said so repeatedly. This advice for women will NOT work for red pill men. Low value men need to take a different approach than the high value man, because there's little competition for low value men, quite the contrary, low value men are faced with lots of competition.
With a high value man it's the woman who has to give him the best sex he's ever had.
In the case of low and mid value men, it's actually the man who has to give her the best sex she's ever had.
This is what Dr. T. missed.
Both benefit in the immediate and in the long term when the man makes her sexual satisfaction his priority.
@@tarablue4472 You could be right..
Who does the illustrations in your video thumbnails? They always look awesome
Clearly ai art
What great advice for securing a shallow and soulless relationship by completely numbing yourself to any violations of your boundaries and physical body. If your number one priority is snagging a wealthy man, I guess this is a good way to go. There's also Sugar Daddy/Baby relationships. It's really much easier to just drop all self-respect and sense of purpose in life and just worship a successful man. They're so dreamy! I personally hope young women will listen to their hearts before they listen to this creep. It is completely shocking that would you say this so callously with no regard to the psychological state of the young women watching. I've been watching your videos lately and I had a feeling you hated women, but this really seals the deal. I would rather be a 80 year old single and celibate crazy cat lady than take this advice, setting myself up for a marriage built on lies, deceit, and a sex addiction that will fade with the inevitable decline of our bodies.
Well said 🙌🏽
Don’t women want sex as well? If she is interested in the man and is sexually attracted to him, why shouldn’t she be having as much sex as she wants to have. She’s not debasing herself, she wants it too. The world needs less of this Christian Puritanism and, stop shaming woman for wanting what they want.
"What great advice for securing a shallow and soulless relationship by completely numbing yourself to any violations of your boundaries and physical body."
If you did it in the past, then it already happened.
If you did not do it in the past, then you don't have to do it.
If you understand that he says the opposite of what he says, then you have a great future.
Did we watch the same video? Where does he suggest building a marriage on lies and deceit? I just hear a lot of honest advice about what would be most effective to get a high-demand guy to stay with you. If it doesn't seem worth it for you, you don't have to take the advice.
Take a look at his next video were he talk about low value women in America, and high value women in Japan. If that does not hit you like a sledge hammer you have a problem.
Or just date men who want you more than you want them
Exactly! Find a less attractive and generous man and you do not need to put up with s..ual and labor exploitation.
@@NolandaNolanda hmm, it sounds like you are describing financially exploiting a man who expects nothing in return. Fascinating!
@@thomasmann4536Low value women will date low value men.. Anything new here?
This is true but he clearly states that this is for women who want a high value man. If you just want to exploit a simp, go do it, but you will get bored.
You likely won't find that relationship fulfilling long term.
Danke!
Love this series, curious for whata hes got for the men.
think i'd rather stay single...
Why? Because it seems like too much effort? There needs to be effort on both sides in a relationship. To be honest, it's not that much effort. Also watch the first video of the series. But if you'd rather stay single, your choice, men will be glad to let you go if you are not willing to put in the effort and will look elsewhere for someone who does.
@@pierrelevasseur2701If "effort" means doing shit I find disgusting, then yes, I rather stay true to my values.
@@steffih.6527If you find sex and intimacy disgusting, most men will not see you as an option anyway.
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Absolutely true again.
Funniest part is waiting for all of the "I DID THIS AND MY MAN STILL LEFT ME" posters from the first video to come to this video and explain that they were still regularly providing the man mindblowing sex. I'll wait. I'm sure that's exactly what Orion is still going to explain in part 3.
Peace, aka the undervalued art of knowing how to shut the eff up.
ZERO chance the women commenting in the first video actually did all the things he's suggesting.
💯 nothing but facts. Too many femcels complaining this doesn't work, when Orion clearly stated in the first episode of this series, and again in this episode, that this advice is only for women who want to get a man. The femcels didn't put in the work, failed miserably, and now all men are bad, advice given about this is bad, and other women will have to be silenced and put down in order to keep the femcels company in their loneliness.
@@masterTigress96facts
Lmao.. I love it.. no wonder I’m in the relationship I want with the man I want!!
Do you have any suggestions for women who struggle in this area because they are abstinent until marriage/engagement for religious or other reasons? I am finding that, while modern discussions surrounding the characteristics of high-value women suggest purity is extremely desirable, most men do not actually want this. Any help would be wonderful. Thank you for your content, Doc.
1. Christians shouldn't let the world disciple them. Orion is not the one to get advice from, Doug Wilson, Paul Washer, Voddie Baucham etc are
2. Don't desire ungodly men. The "most men" in your comment. If you consent to play with them, you lose your opportunity with godly men forever
3. If you're not born again but just "religious," you may as well get off the fence and go full harlot or else take the Bible seriously, because your behavior now is inconsistent and going to cause worse outcomes than one or the other. Eg repressed slutty catholic girls are worse than pink haired lesbians or homeschooled virgins. Pick a lane.
Your purity should get you a high value man, be picky. Only women like you get to be as picky as they want. My advice is go for the ring before you do anything. Go to places where successful men frequent, good luck.
Thank you for the loving advice. The key word there is "should." But in reality, all men want sex and the majority will do what they have to do to get it. You either can't get past a third or fifth date without being dumped for not putting out, or a guy dates you and gets it elsewhere behind your back until he's ready to marry you. It's frustrating to receive this contradicting information- be willing to put out, and freaky AF too, yet be a virgin. Have sex with the guy early on to hook him, but don't be misled into thinking that the length of time you've been in a relationship and the seriousness of the relationship correlate. ... Is it just me, or is this extremely contradictory?
@@nancytoregas9380 it is, because the advice is not coming from the same place and given to the same people. The advice about putting out is only valid to women of low morals who have already done that and have no moral reason not to keep doing it. If you are a virgin but have no reason why, then you need to sort that out before you start dating and ruin your life.
If you don't want to listen to Christians for relationship advice, you are going to be frustrated by contradictory advice because that is all you're going to get from the world. Your choice
The problem isn't that you have not had sex. The problem is the lack of enthusiasm of wanting to.
Dr. Orion, won’t these men judge the woman and think she is doing this with other men and that she doesn’t value herself?
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You didn’t listen properly.
Ladies! Super important to remember this is advice for women who are not attractive enough to catch the attention of the man they want naturally. If you are attractive, your best option is to pick the best of the men chasing you. Way less stress.
Don’t you think you’d be happier choosing the man YOU want?
@ShekaGolden no man is going to be exactly what you want. You can either pick the one that already likes you, that's closest to your ideal or you can chase the one you "want". Maybe it will work out but you'll never feel like he chose you. And then if it doesn't work out, you will have just wasted time.
@@ASTROJJEN choosing and chasing are two different things. I’ve always had options and chosen the man I wanted and NEVER had to chase one. Telling a guy that you wanna get to know him better doesn’t equal buying him flowers and taking him on dates. If you’re not confident enough to get what you want out of life just say that, but don’t try to project it onto others.
@ShekaGolden whoa whoa whoa it seems I've struck a chord here. Who said anything about confidence? It's not about confidence. It's about seeing their raw character. Are they motivated without me prompting them to be? Simply put- if I have to tell a man I want to get to know him better in order for him to pursue me, I don't want him. Point blank. I wanted the one who saw me and said "I want that. I'm gonna do what it takes to get her attention, show her I'm worthy, and then continuously show up for her with love and care." I wanted that to be a decision he made without me needing to prompt him. But everyone's preferences are different. If you like to be the initiator /main driver of the relationship, you go right on ahead girl! I'm sure there are many men out there that are down for the ride.
@@ASTROJJEN So you do not want the 'high value man' who will not want to pursue you just because he is possibly aware of your existence, but definitely aware of existence of other women interested in him, trying to know him better and be known better by him. You do not want to compete for such a man and rather be happy with a man who competed to get you.
Understood, I am also a less ambitious person - I have not competed for some better positions in the business - I am happy with the position where they are happy to have me for sure.
This Mr. Orion explains in the first minute of his video it is not for you but for those who WANT to make couple with such a 'high value man'.
I think you’re on to something I dress very feminine always in dresses, showing my hourglass figure in a modest way. I have long hair and always smile with eye contact to strangers. Head held high and always walk with great posture. I think I do this not only to look and feel my best but most women want to dress to blend in. They are afraid to stand out. And they do not get the attention that I do. Another thing I do is I stay skinny. My competitors are mostly overweight now which makes most men gravitate to us few women that are more appealing to look at in public. How do I know? I’ve watched men as I sit at the mall and I know exactly what makes them turn their head. If you stand out your irreplaceable.
😂absolutely correct 🫡
Looking forward to the male version of this video series...
I am not sure if this series is really to benefit women? Lol
Right? No offense Orion, but the guy sure sounds passive in all this.
He's talking about your part in the relationship.
@@kassie5779 so if someone tells you how to get your dream job, you'd then proceed to say: the company sure sounds passive in all this......lol
So if someone tells you how to get your dream job, you'd say ask: I am not sure if this job is really to benefit me?......lol
@@allenlin7333 Exactly! Women HATE having to do anything earn their life! They simply want men to do all the work, and they collect the rewards! Women are almost as lazy as they are dumb! LOL
This is gold. As a woman nearing 40 trying to navigate online dating coaches, this makes sense.
Give him/ her what he/she wants so he/she can't get that elsewhere or to anyone 😊. Fulfill their desires, needs and wants in all aspect . Is it hard ? Yes of course it takes effort to do that . This is for both man and woman in a relationship.
How do people find out each others’ sexual history so easily??
Women will tell gay men and other women their secrets. Be like a gay man, don't judge. Then, joke around about what insecure men are like, and she will start to spill her history.
People often hang out with the same circle.
A colleague of mine ended relationship with his girlfriend because she was not into oral pleasuring though, as he found out, she 'loved it' in her younger age.
I think he got this info from her former classmate and still the 'best friend' who heard that from the lucky boy, after they broke up.
And she even confirmed it is true by saying she was just young and stupid that time... and he was unable to process this reasoning as a man who planned to marry her.
You see, even I know it now - if she ever happen to be my partner...
Appreciate the straight up honesty….. and this is definitely all true from experience
Tough to keep trying this strategy after a few failures. Choose wisely. Good luck
I also agree with Jordan Peterson. He said that a sophisticated woman says "NO" and high-value men appreciate that. Women: Take time to get to know somebody. Being promiscuous / "easy" is not good for anybody. This should be common sense to men too. Both should want someone who has self control. (Video: "The Main sign that SHE IS GOOD.")
I don't want a bad boy as a woman. I want a good man who values me for more than just naughty sex. My fiancé would disagree with this advice. He used to get turned off by women throwing themselves at him performing cirque du Soleil acts in the bedroom past his twenties. It's definitely NOT what keeps high value men hooked long-term AT ALL. It's just a great part of a committed relationship.
@lilylife4425 Word. Thank you. The arrogance in this video is off the charts. A total turn off. Life has a funny way of teaching us a thing or two and I detect some real lessons ahead in his future. I'm chuckling at his naivety, superficiality, immaturity and materialistic view on life. Being a good, kind, humble generous person is the master key. This advice is like one of those plastic motel slide a key cards. A life partnership goes way beyond the frivolous surface stuff described here. 'Doc' has much to learn about the complexities and deep layers of a woman. He comes across as uninteresting, self serving and one dimensional.
@@beebumble9664 Totally agree!
Well, this video is one part of three. This alone won't keep a man hooked, but it is a critical piece of the puzzle. Most of the complaints seem to be people who are forgetting that this is part of a three part series :)
Thank you, kind sir, for explaining everything from a man’s point of view.
Thanks!
holy shit a women paid!
Men abuse women who are 'available' to them. It's naive to think "men will take care of these women".
I agree. A man should like you for who you are, not the "services" you provide.
This is the opposite of what women are usually told. We are told men fall in love when they put effort into you. It’s said you have to make them work for it.
Those are basically lies. As a guy, we want to commit to a girl who is more sexually open to us than any of her past partners. This is why it’s advisable for women to not be promiscuous before getting married so that the bar is set much lower.
Is that working?
Dusties try to trick and de-valuate you; so, you give it for free. Ambitious men like challenges (beside they can afford to pay for these type of services, if they need to). If you want a driven, successful man, then do not act like a pickmeisha. Orion is teaching women to give a desperate vibe and end up exploited.
@@NolandaNolanda- I can describe you just by your choice of words. Here goes: Black Woman, 30-45 years old, Single AF, Masculine, Hostile, Aggressive, Over-bearing, Disagreeable, Uncooperative, Combative, Loud and ill-tempered.
@@dna2dna275 💯 this! .. Don't know who tells women this crap "We are told men fall in love when they put effort into you. It’s said you have to make them work for it."
All it does is show me that you are not interested in me and make me move on to someone else.