More CUSTOMIZATION Of Modular Services In Cities 2! | Dev Diary Part 2

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  • Today we're checking out Part 2 of the Dev Diary on the incoming Economy 2.0 rework for Cities 2's simulation. This patch reworks some frustrating elements of the simulation including financial stats, demands, production chains and much more. Let me know what you think of this!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 60

  • @garyklyce713
    @garyklyce713 3 місяці тому +20

    The change to the building upgrades is most welcome. Probably the thing I’m looking forward to the most.

  • @layelee
    @layelee 3 місяці тому +9

    The game devs literally told the citizens to stop buying so much avocado toast LOL

  • @jdjenk04
    @jdjenk04 3 місяці тому +9

    The more flexibility with building upgrades + new service assets has been my major gripe. Hope they can add a large elementary school (like Sim City 4) that doubles or triples the student capacity. Tired of seeing 20 elementary schools for 1 high school and they all look the same.

    • @japes7
      @japes7 3 місяці тому

      Apparently more students will go to high school at least.

  • @duckpond7856
    @duckpond7856 3 місяці тому +4

    CO is fixing what they think is most important ("If you don't like the simulation, this game isn't for you!") I'm not sure they realize that the list you, CPP and Biffa gave them are, for many of us, a higher priority - or at least equal.

    • @michaelw6222
      @michaelw6222 3 місяці тому +2

      Seems to be the case so far. With all that has gone on, it should have been abundantly clear (TBH, should have been crystal clear before initial release) that we want basic QOL functions baked into the base game. You are right, seems like they just don't want to do it. Period. I'll just throw this in for good measure: It's my opinion, even after all of this input/advice/suggestions/meetings/back-and-forth/actual game updates and patches, that the game is STILL nothing like what they marketed and hyped to us pre-release. All of that "Build ANY city YOU want" and "the sky is the limit" was all BS. Even after the latest fixes, there's essentially no way to keep low income families in low density, single family housing. So if you want a significant portion of your city to be rural/low income/low-density... well, seems we always end up back at "this isn't the simulation for you".

  • @johnninocovers
    @johnninocovers 3 місяці тому +14

    Future mod idea: Building upgrade radius anarchy

    • @michahogelo
      @michahogelo 3 місяці тому +2

      just work it into anarchy

    • @scheballs7
      @scheballs7 3 місяці тому

      Pretty sure Anarchy will just allow this

    • @OVERCHARGEDEGG
      @OVERCHARGEDEGG  3 місяці тому +4

      You know it's coming

  • @maxraynard8433
    @maxraynard8433 3 місяці тому +11

    No mention of the asset importer is a bummer. That is what I'm waiting for the reinstall the game

    • @micbln8967
      @micbln8967 3 місяці тому +2

      They told already this will not get finished before summer break.

  • @James-xx7yt
    @James-xx7yt 3 місяці тому +1

    I hope they didn't remove the concrete -> building upkeep supply chain. I'm assuming they haven't. Having that interconnection between different parts of the city's economy/simulation is something I love.

  • @japes7
    @japes7 3 місяці тому +1

    In my opinion, line tool and forest brush being implemented would be pretty boring, they should definitely only do that if they have a bunch of cool stuff coming with it and it didn;t take much time. Since mods can do it well right now, I would rather see things like bicycles implemented and other useful stuff, but definitely some line tool and other implementations by the time console is ready.

    • @benhoffman8264
      @benhoffman8264 3 місяці тому

      Yes for sure. I have respect for egg and biffa but a lot of their suggestions to CO absolutely shock me and are very disconnected from my experience playing. CPP has a much closer feedback to what I would say.

  • @joeblow5214
    @joeblow5214 3 місяці тому +1

    I really wish I could buy the San Francisco pack independently.

    • @benhoffman8264
      @benhoffman8264 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah I noticed that and it's kinda strange it's only available with the ultimate edition

  • @stevekirkby6570
    @stevekirkby6570 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for your hard work Egg.... but just thought I'd mention..... (incase you have their ear on these issues)...
    Still no news on the Ultimate Edition add ons that we already paid for. No mega Regional Asset Pack that was promised, no asset creation tool. A year after launch is a bit much for those that bought the full expanded game; I mean, how far are they off the road map for these? And now the game is re-priced at something like £25. I really think they need to finally look after the people who went all in and gave them the full price Ultimate Edition money. So far all we have to show for it is a San Fran Map and a bridge!
    The Paradox Website says Q2 for Modern Architecture and Urban Promenades.... Q4 for 3 * Creator Packs and Q1 in 2025 for Bridges and Ports. This is the new DELAYED shedule, but they again already behind on Q2 delivery of Modern Architecture and Urban Promenades, unles it gets rolled out in the next 2 weeks!
    I love the game, but really this delay on the expansions is not acceptable. I'm a realist and not one to moan normally... but ....

  • @Knight1118-gk7ok
    @Knight1118-gk7ok 3 місяці тому

    Looks interesting but I'm still staying away until the game gets more refined with mods and assets. I'm back at CS1 and still find I can do so much more than with CS2. One of my biggest disappointments with CS2 was the development tree. It's so bland and sparse compared to unlocking achievement levels in CS1.

  • @randallcromer66
    @randallcromer66 3 місяці тому

    Hi Egg man,
    To be complete honest with you and myself I just don't know how I'm supposed to feel about the new economy 2.0, I mean if it helps the game run smoother and makes the game part feel more enjoyable then I'm all for it. But other then that this update doesn't do anything to help me enjoy playing because it's not the main reason I like playing the game. I guess I wait and see if the update doesn't crash my current city build then I'll be alright with it. Thanks Big Egg for the news and for letting us know what's coming down the lube tube. Take care and stay you. 💯👍

  • @cardsandcraftcottage
    @cardsandcraftcottage 3 місяці тому

    Just also wondering about the Tile Upkeep cost that has now also been announced 😮 Cost per tile you have purchased 😮
    The one thing that I don't like the idea of is the all or nothing option. This definitely doesn't make everyone who plays the game feel in control of their gaming style.
    Will try the patch but not sure if I'll continue playing and considering the price I purchased it for. I could have finished getting the rest of CS1.

  • @DrKat213
    @DrKat213 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the summary! I’m happy about these changes They’re essential, but I probably won’t really get back to playing until there’s traffic and transit to manage.

  • @mastersuntzu
    @mastersuntzu 3 місяці тому

    Just received my Spice Tour shirt and love it!! Can't wait for the new build!!

  • @simonlees2848
    @simonlees2848 3 місяці тому

    I don't need game play engine improvements, i'm happy with mods there, but i'm waiting until the release of the asset packs before I start playing

  • @80aj
    @80aj 3 місяці тому

    I don't understand why it's pushed back to the 19th now. Any later and they will be on summer break before it releases.

  • @mpcamposz
    @mpcamposz 3 місяці тому +1

    this game will be non existent to me until we have custom assets

  • @larkendelvie
    @larkendelvie 3 місяці тому

    It's not that these changes aren't welcome to me it's that I need player assets. When the fixes finally get patched I will get on and dink around for a day or so and then put it all away until the next update --- no point in building anything long term yet.

  • @benhoffman8264
    @benhoffman8264 3 місяці тому

    Q3 would be July -September so the next patch after this one should not be in October

  • @carriegarrisonvos4433
    @carriegarrisonvos4433 3 місяці тому

    I'm still of the opinion that this should have been a part of the game to begin with incl line tools, move it and all of the essentials. I still have a hard time getting excited about it when everyone was so disappointed for so long.

  • @nozomi_tailwind
    @nozomi_tailwind 3 місяці тому

    wow the change on modular part was very awesome, cant wait for it
    and please another game performance optimization

  • @wesleyvancauwenbergh5226
    @wesleyvancauwenbergh5226 3 місяці тому

    You should give Workers and resources soviet union a try seems like a fun game

  • @tobbakken2911
    @tobbakken2911 3 місяці тому +3

    Q4 is october-december btw, Q3 is July to september.

    • @japes7
      @japes7 3 місяці тому

      Yeah. including July technically.

    • @tobbakken2911
      @tobbakken2911 3 місяці тому

      @@japes7 My math wasn't mathing lol

  • @WhiskeyHunterVAT69
    @WhiskeyHunterVAT69 3 місяці тому

    sounds good. and yes, I will fire it back up see how it goes.

  • @arthurl5280
    @arthurl5280 3 місяці тому

    This should be a big improvement. However, it is the asset timetable that is so critical - I really want to get back into CS2 but am desperate for that first

  • @בריוסיפוביץ-ז6ק
    @בריוסיפוביץ-ז6ק 3 місяці тому

    so when they will realese to the game i cant find any date

  • @cvatanen1
    @cvatanen1 3 місяці тому

    The building upgrades is the one thing I'm most excited about. However, the zone in which we can place the buildings appears quite small. I was hoping for a larger area to work but this looks to be a promising start.

  • @martinholden6214
    @martinholden6214 3 місяці тому

    Did they give a release date for the update? Looking forward to the changes. Honestly think the game is getting there. The next thing id like to see is changes to the specialised industry. I've come bk to the game very recently and it's a ton better already with mods. I'll be starting over even though my new city is very small. Jst so I can get a feel of the new mechanics. Now I'd suggest to modded players to not even bother updating the game until the mods are good to go. As if the mods ain't working the game won't be good. There's many mods like extra 3.0, move it, line tool etc that imho are needed to make the game enjoyable. I'm not going bk to placing singular trees in lines 😅 so yeh I'll be disabling updates on the game until I know the mods I use/need most are working.

  • @artistfkaW
    @artistfkaW 3 місяці тому

    Finally. Still can’t zone low density residential anywhere except the middle of nowhere and then they complain about lack of metro (which is unrealistic)

  • @Qualiall1
    @Qualiall1 3 місяці тому

    the diary says high rent complainers will move to an affordable unit or leave the city..what determines that choice? family size? Availability? random chance?

  • @ben0329
    @ben0329 3 місяці тому

    That change to the sub building upgrades should definitely produce more variety in designs

  • @geenicoll2920
    @geenicoll2920 3 місяці тому

    Building upgrades being sorted is a good thing, still trying to be positive that it will become the game we hope for.

  • @whichway-557
    @whichway-557 3 місяці тому

    bought this game when it came out.... iiv played it once???????????????? shyt sequel

  • @garyklyce713
    @garyklyce713 3 місяці тому

    Can’t wait to play the new update, not looking forward to starting over though 😂

  • @aluxtube3089
    @aluxtube3089 3 місяці тому

    When will be you next cs2 episode

  • @TheNowerianRaven
    @TheNowerianRaven 3 місяці тому +2

    Even if it improves by only 1% i want to see improvements to the atrocious zoning.

  • @michaelw6222
    @michaelw6222 3 місяці тому

    Thanks, Egg!

  • @WeAreNotAIone
    @WeAreNotAIone 3 місяці тому +2

    They need to get this game on Console, CS1 is great but i need a new fix for my addiction

    • @Gerador20
      @Gerador20 3 місяці тому

      At the current state the consoles won't survive the game with the performance issue it still has. Even high end pc struggles to get solid 60 fps

  • @VirtualMarines
    @VirtualMarines 3 місяці тому +1

    I just want to be able to see the actual calculations happening under the hood. This info is great, but if there is no way to validate rent and other values, I feel we haven’t improved much.

  • @tom.jacobs
    @tom.jacobs 3 місяці тому +2

    Never expected Egg would fall for the (boomer) argument that cafee latte's making people not being able to pay rent

    • @OVERCHARGEDEGG
      @OVERCHARGEDEGG  3 місяці тому +4

      We all fall to the boomers one day my friend, we all do

  • @slendercastle
    @slendercastle 3 місяці тому +4

    For all the time they've had this still feels pretty subpar...

    • @arthuralpaca
      @arthuralpaca 3 місяці тому +1

      This is a complete rework of the economy, it affects everything in the game, it's a big deal. Honestly I think it was really quick for the complexity of it, but we can't see the impact because its stuff that happens in the background.

    • @slendercastle
      @slendercastle 3 місяці тому +1

      @@arthuralpaca The complexity of fixing an issue they made themselves doesn't take away from the fact that this is still very lacking in what has to happen to get the game on an acceptable level.
      I had expected more to come when they apologized a second time for their lack of actual improvement and a subpar DLC they had to walk back and release for free.

    • @notead
      @notead 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@slendercastle I'll take robust long-term improvements that take time to develop over broken quick fixes to appease dopamine deprived gamers any day of the week.

    • @slendercastle
      @slendercastle 3 місяці тому +1

      @@notead I would also like some robust long-term improvements. Even if they take time to develop.
      But it's been 7 months since release, with the only thing to show for it being a walked back minor DLC, and promises that this time the economy will actually work. (Which still remains to be seen until it actually releases)
      They haven't even talked about any of the other things that are still missing or broken. They talked to some youtubers for some feedback, but then don't even recognize in their blog posts that anything happened or will happen because of that.
      Where is the roadmap of changes they plan to implement? Is there even a plan? Who knows!

    • @notead
      @notead 3 місяці тому

      ​@@slendercastle Honestly don't understand the rush. Just play something else.