This is more a bit of subjective fun, how would you rank these cars? Make sure to check out the "Failed Racers - All Videos" playlist here at ua-cam.com/play/PLVJNvNGRPJa3djpOSByP_QjwIs2kgfd9J.html&si=TPKk-m0l5BO_k-KG for all videos on one playlist.
I seem to remember Marcus Gronholm saying, " I'm fed up with this car" 😭😬😁 and then shortly realising he shouldn't have said it as it was bad for marketing the car.
Maybe it's just because we didn't get them in the US, thus making them look unique to me, but I think the 307 is an okay looking car. And the WRC version is downright awesome looking.
One strong contender for the worst racing car is the 2000 Prost Peugeot AP03 which finished last in the 2000 constructors championship even behind minnows Minardi who were on the brink of collapse
You need to add the RS200 Group B car to the list. The car had just one podium, compared with the outdated 2WD Lancia Rally 037, which achieved two podiums in the same season. Alfa Romeo also got a podium that year, and they didn't even have a group B car, it was their Group A GTV6. The RS200 was best known for running down some spectators in the 1986 Rally of Portugal. Not to mention they cancelled the Escort RS1700T Group B project to build the RS200 and achieved so little.
Throw on top of that when some of the Group B rally icons went endurance racing. An ex-Works 037 ran JGTC in 1994, performed miserably, and a converted RS200 road car ran in IMSA's GTO class in 1988, also performed miserably.
Piss Poor Performers - Subpar Ranking All steam through the whistle - We Blew It countdown When PR and Marketing make the design - clASSification Pay To Win Failures - Showdown Common sence_not found scoreboard Did they think that through? - The List Motorsport oopsies - "it shouldn't done that" ranking I hope it'll induce some chuckles :)
I'd love to see a video on the Nissan delta wing race car. Or something from Pike's peak, they have lax rules so there's bound to be some crazy out of the box designs
Some of the most obscure and recent failed racers could easily be the Suzuki SX4 WRC, the Mini Countryman JCW WRC and the Proton Satria Neo S2000, don't you think so? 😮
I once went out as a passenger in a friend’s dad’s 307cc. I felt incredibly embarrassed the whole time and, even though it was before I was old enough to drive, I could feel how crap it must have been to drive. I think he had it for one summer, before he went back to mondeo-sized rep cars that he drove before.
It's ugly but I've always thought it looked pretty cool. It's just such a weird concept. The RCZ is prettier but I think it's less cool because it's a lot more conventional. And it wasn't turned into a rally car.
I always wonder, to this day, how much more Gronholm would have won with a Peugoet team that wasn't so damn incompetent. Basically, the 307 made him and Peugoet leave the sport.
I've got a couple of suggestions for future entries, a couple of them with American origins. - 1978 Dodge Magnum NASCAR Winston Cup car: It was Chrysler Corporation's last ditch effort to remain competitive in the series, but absolutely failed. Richard Petty (who was still a factory driver for them at the time) claimed the car was undrivable at 190 mph. By mid-season, the two top Mopar teams (Petty, and the team of Neil Bonnett) abandoned the car and switched to GM products, leaving lower-tier privateers running them. It's only bright spot was when Richard's son, Kyle, won the 1979 ARCA (at the time still an independent series, lower than NASCAR) opener at Daytona, but since that was a totally different series, not sure if that would count as much for 'Against The Odds' points. - 1997-98 Toyota Cavalier JGTC: Wait, what? Most folks who aren't diehard JDM fans or Chevrolet fans are likely not aware that Toyota sold a rebadged third-gen Chevrolet Cavalier in Japan. Even fewer are probably aware that a semi-factory backed Cavalier ran in the 1997 and 1998 JGTC seasons in the GT300 class. For the most part, the car was rather non-competitive, though it could get some 'Against The Odds' points, for scoring a 4th place finish at the no longer active Mine Circuit. Probably the biggest salt in the wound for the Cavalier's failure, though, was the fact that it was replaced in 1999 by a spaceframe car with the bodywork of the long-discontinued AE86 Corolla, while the Cavalier was still on the market in Japan at the time.
i saw a LMP car somewhere. maybe it was nissan. it had strangely narrow front. it looked so strange. i would like to suggest that car too. and i dont know what clasifies as fail raced. is brawn gp's f1 car good suggestion? it was expected to fail. no sponsors wanted to touch it. but thanks to inovation they managed to win. and looks like you are a fan of Skoda. you may know Favorit was quite good so they tried with Felicia too. i love the design of felicia. sadly it wasn as good as favorit. so that car is a failed racer
You know that the later Nissan GT-R LM Nismo became the great potential since Jann Mardenborough, the gamer-turned-pro-race-driver of Team Nissan took the victory in the 24 Hours of Le Mans in the LMP2 class.
I hope you can make a video on the Mitsubishi Lancer WRC that debuted in 2001 or 2004 one day. It is my favourite rally car ever since I saw it in the licensed PS2 WRC games.
I believe the nissan lmp1 car was supposed to have system that would have made it 4 wheel drive and in that case it might have been much faster thus having potential.
Kinda, but I explained why that probably wouldn't have worked either on the full video on the GTR. Basically, it had very little rear grip, so the rear wouldn't actually be able to handle much power, and you'd also need driveshafts, which would cut through the aero tunnels reducing the aerodynamic benefits of Nissan's front engine front wheel drive concept
It was intended to be a part-time 4WD system. The hybrid system would power the rear wheels only when needed, through corners (and regen braking before a corner) FWD the rest of the time. The lack of Hybrid was a critical failure as the entire dynamics of the car were ruined, it was hopelessly under braked without the regen and that was what made it so slow and difficult to drive, the Le Mans appearance was a lot of smoke and mirrors but it was eating brakes constantly. The physical size was a problem but needed to make the Venturi tunnel concept work, it had very poor chassis dynamics (more in common with a canal barge) The innovative aero package made it very fast in a straight line but it overwhelmed the suspension, it spent most of its time dragging its backside like a dog with worms. The US company behind the project bizarrely also failed to appreciate the bumpy nature of the Le Mans track too. It was a terrifying object to drive at speed and mildly worrying to drive slowly. Technically it didn’t qualify to start at Le Mans and Technically it didn’t qualify as a finisher but the large amount of Nissan Branding around the circuit at that year’s LM 24 did help the results look less embarrassing. Ben Bowlby was the wrong man for the job.
@@wrongcheeseat Le Mans it would, in the braking and acceleration areas that the car was just haemorrhaging time, in slow/mid speed corners it was close to un-drivable and suffered chronic under steer having to rely on the V6 Cosworth designed petrol engine up front. (That power unit was the gem in the whole project, never missed a beat) The rear driveshafts through the Venturi Ducts made insignificant changes to the aerodynamic effects.
Too be fair the 08 Impreza was pretty good tbh it was just against two of the best (in my view) WRC cars ever in the Citreon C4 WRC and the 2006-2010 era Focus Focus WRC rally cars.
I'm not sure the Polo would suit the theme of the channel given how successful it is, but I did mention it a bit in the Fabia video ua-cam.com/video/ABSrJdgxEek/v-deo.html
I was going to add one, but I remembered that youtube takes videos down for having lists in the description sometimes because they think it's tag spamming.
There are angles from which the 307 WRC looks convincing, but the spoiler placement is hideous. The early-2000s elongated Peugeot headlights are the worst of PSA - they looked interesting on the small 206, but ruined the aesthatics of bigger cars such as the 307, 407 and 607. Rear window is pretty weird too. The widened wheel arches and racing mods of course help the overall picture look more agressive, but I highly recommend looking at body-in-white version which exposes the overall ugliness of the design. 4/10 at most. That said - the 306 Maxi looked like it was made in a tuk-tuk workshop as well (2/10), and it still became one of the most famed Peugeot rally cars of all time. The 206 WRC was maybe 6/10, the 205 T16 is in the range of 8/10 and the 406 Coupe Silhouette is the true 10/10 racing car styling.
I wouldn't really blame the 307 for that. It was built to the FIA's safety standards of the day, and it was in perfect mechanical condition. What happened with Michael Park was just unfortunate. There isn't really anything or anyone at fault for it.
This is more a bit of subjective fun, how would you rank these cars?
Make sure to check out the "Failed Racers - All Videos" playlist here at ua-cam.com/play/PLVJNvNGRPJa3djpOSByP_QjwIs2kgfd9J.html&si=TPKk-m0l5BO_k-KG for all videos on one playlist.
I have a new name, I hereby propose the name,” Repulsive Racers” as the cars are trash in multiple ways
Every Peugeot is a 3/10
- Aristotle
"No powersteering" -Marcus Grönholm in every race while driving 307
I'd love to see a documentary about the Citroen BX4TC group b rally car next! The design is one of my favorites!
It'll definitely get featured here some day, that's for sure
Ah yes. The Quattro at home
it looks like a long 6r4
Can't wait to see you talk about the Mac’s IT Special, a truly weird car that competed in the Can-Am in the 1970s.
Sounds interesting
Shadow Mk I comes to mind, when weird Can-Am cars are mentioned.
@@ElTio.45-70I saw one down at Elkhart Lake last year. It's just a go kart with a massive, 700+ hp engine.
You leave my Octavia alone! Love the Octavia WRC.
It may have not won any championships, but it won our hearts
As a Peugeot Convertible owner, I will now only refer to my car lovingly as a Purrrrjoe Convertible.
I seem to remember Marcus Gronholm saying, " I'm fed up with this car" 😭😬😁 and then shortly realising he shouldn't have said it as it was bad for marketing the car.
Your channel has me realizing that 'failed rally car' is, in fact, my favorite type of car.
I love Škodas in general
Me too Skoda Octavia and Fabia ❤
The way you said "pEuGeOt CoNvErTiBlE" 🤣🤣
Yeah I'm not sure quite how he rates a PEUGEOT.... CONVERTIBLE, he was very subtle 😂😂😂😂
But I mean, lets be real, do you REALLY wanna be seen driving around in a perjo converthible?
@@themyss3657I've had this misfortune and my friends made fun of me the day after. Still don't know what drives someone to buy one of those...
𝘗𝘦𝘶𝘨𝘦𝘰𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦
Have you never heard of Jeremy Clarkson?
I'm sorry but 307 has 10/10 cool factor. It's ugly, wierd, but my god, they took a Peugeot convertible a made a WRC from that. It's just cool.
Maybe it's just because we didn't get them in the US, thus making them look unique to me, but I think the 307 is an okay looking car. And the WRC version is downright awesome looking.
@@musewolfman trust me they're nothing really special. Imagine a Corolla Convertible with French reliability
I guess the Lotus Evora GTLM is already on the shortlist along with Venturi LM cars?
The Lotus GT1 programme too
One strong contender for the worst racing car is the 2000 Prost Peugeot AP03 which finished last in the 2000 constructors championship even behind minnows Minardi who were on the brink of collapse
You need to add the RS200 Group B car to the list. The car had just one podium, compared with the outdated 2WD Lancia Rally 037, which achieved two podiums in the same season. Alfa Romeo also got a podium that year, and they didn't even have a group B car, it was their Group A GTV6. The RS200 was best known for running down some spectators in the 1986 Rally of Portugal. Not to mention they cancelled the Escort RS1700T Group B project to build the RS200 and achieved so little.
Throw on top of that when some of the Group B rally icons went endurance racing.
An ex-Works 037 ran JGTC in 1994, performed miserably, and a converted RS200 road car ran in IMSA's GTO class in 1988, also performed miserably.
This will probably be on my video explaining where the FIA "letter groups" went
The RS200s did at least live on for a number of years in european Rallycross, some drivers like Martin Schanche did pretty well with them.
@@olnnn if by "Pretty Well" you mean absolutely dominating the championship for 4 years straight.
That's an understatement.
id like to suggest an episode for the hyundai accent wrc, the first attempt from hyundai in the wrc
Piss Poor Performers - Subpar Ranking
All steam through the whistle - We Blew It countdown
When PR and Marketing make the design - clASSification
Pay To Win Failures - Showdown
Common sence_not found scoreboard
Did they think that through? - The List
Motorsport oopsies - "it shouldn't done that" ranking
I hope it'll induce some chuckles :)
I'd love to see a video on the Nissan delta wing race car. Or something from Pike's peak, they have lax rules so there's bound to be some crazy out of the box designs
Some of the most obscure and recent failed racers could easily be the Suzuki SX4 WRC, the Mini Countryman JCW WRC and the Proton Satria Neo S2000, don't you think so? 😮
I once went out as a passenger in a friend’s dad’s 307cc. I felt incredibly embarrassed the whole time and, even though it was before I was old enough to drive, I could feel how crap it must have been to drive. I think he had it for one summer, before he went back to mondeo-sized rep cars that he drove before.
The Nissan lmp1 can’t really count on the list seeing as they never finished it
*_HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA_*
Dang 😂
Octavia is the best one to me,there will never be a car in WRC like that again.
@12:30 the old WCR tune..... NICE.
The Beefy Little Power Machine is on top
The 307 is pretty like a pug. It’s so ugly and unique looking that it actually just puts it in its own class of pretty.
It's ugly but I've always thought it looked pretty cool. It's just such a weird concept.
The RCZ is prettier but I think it's less cool because it's a lot more conventional. And it wasn't turned into a rally car.
It is a 𝘗𝘦𝘶𝘨𝘦𝘰𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 though
@@FailedRacers Better than the Nissan Murano Cabriolet at least.
Definitely
What do you think of this name: Failure Showdown!
Certainly a contender
The Škoda looks like it's wearing one of those breathing apratuses extremely fat people wear. Very cool and very inclusive.
I love Skoda Fabia's, genuinely the R5 is my dream car
I really liked the music selection that you used. It takes me back to some racing games that I used to play.
Never knew the Nissan LMP1 car was 20 seconds a lap slower per lap at Le Mans. That's huge. It must have been slower than LMP2. Yikes!
It was slower than an LMP2 in quali, although only one of them (which hilariously used a Nissan engine)
Main thing that handicaped 307 WRC was idiotic 4 gear transmission. Most powerful car in the grid got the worst performance.
I always wonder, to this day, how much more Gronholm would have won with a Peugoet team that wasn't so damn incompetent. Basically, the 307 made him and Peugoet leave the sport.
Add the Mg Metro as its always been the what if car of group b
I've got a couple of suggestions for future entries, a couple of them with American origins.
- 1978 Dodge Magnum NASCAR Winston Cup car: It was Chrysler Corporation's last ditch effort to remain competitive in the series, but absolutely failed. Richard Petty (who was still a factory driver for them at the time) claimed the car was undrivable at 190 mph.
By mid-season, the two top Mopar teams (Petty, and the team of Neil Bonnett) abandoned the car and switched to GM products, leaving lower-tier privateers running them.
It's only bright spot was when Richard's son, Kyle, won the 1979 ARCA (at the time still an independent series, lower than NASCAR) opener at Daytona, but since that was a totally different series, not sure if that would count as much for 'Against The Odds' points.
- 1997-98 Toyota Cavalier JGTC: Wait, what? Most folks who aren't diehard JDM fans or Chevrolet fans are likely not aware that Toyota sold a rebadged third-gen Chevrolet Cavalier in Japan. Even fewer are probably aware that a semi-factory backed Cavalier ran in the 1997 and 1998 JGTC seasons in the GT300 class.
For the most part, the car was rather non-competitive, though it could get some 'Against The Odds' points, for scoring a 4th place finish at the no longer active Mine Circuit.
Probably the biggest salt in the wound for the Cavalier's failure, though, was the fact that it was replaced in 1999 by a spaceframe car with the bodywork of the long-discontinued AE86 Corolla, while the Cavalier was still on the market in Japan at the time.
307 had poor results, but it was beautiful. Aesthetics: 10/10.
i saw a LMP car somewhere. maybe it was nissan. it had strangely narrow front. it looked so strange. i would like to suggest that car too.
and i dont know what clasifies as fail raced. is brawn gp's f1 car good suggestion? it was expected to fail. no sponsors wanted to touch it. but thanks to inovation they managed to win.
and looks like you are a fan of Skoda. you may know Favorit was quite good so they tried with Felicia too. i love the design of felicia. sadly it wasn as good as favorit. so that car is a failed racer
I would like to see Impreza 06-07 and 08 here and Lancer 01-02 and 04-05
I don't understand why WRC winning Impreza S9 is absent in every wrc game and NFS and failed S12 and S14 are present
You know that the later Nissan GT-R LM Nismo became the great potential since Jann Mardenborough, the gamer-turned-pro-race-driver of Team Nissan took the victory in the 24 Hours of Le Mans in the LMP2 class.
I hope you can make a video on the Mitsubishi Lancer WRC that debuted in 2001 or 2004 one day. It is my favourite rally car ever since I saw it in the licensed PS2 WRC games.
Content ideas ...
Hyundai Accent WRC
Lancer WRC (non Grp.A)
DeltaWing
DAF Turbo Twin X1
Toyota GT One
I´d love a vid on the Dallara P217 lmp2 car. Had a higher top speed than the lmp1s but still failed horrendously
I believe the nissan lmp1 car was supposed to have system that would have made it 4 wheel drive and in that case it might have been much faster thus having potential.
Kinda, but I explained why that probably wouldn't have worked either on the full video on the GTR. Basically, it had very little rear grip, so the rear wouldn't actually be able to handle much power, and you'd also need driveshafts, which would cut through the aero tunnels reducing the aerodynamic benefits of Nissan's front engine front wheel drive concept
It was intended to be a part-time 4WD system. The hybrid system would power the rear wheels only when needed, through corners (and regen braking before a corner) FWD the rest of the time. The lack of Hybrid was a critical failure as the entire dynamics of the car were ruined, it was hopelessly under braked without the regen and that was what made it so slow and difficult to drive, the Le Mans appearance was a lot of smoke and mirrors but it was eating brakes constantly. The physical size was a problem but needed to make the Venturi tunnel concept work, it had very poor chassis dynamics (more in common with a canal barge) The innovative aero package made it very fast in a straight line but it overwhelmed the suspension, it spent most of its time dragging its backside like a dog with worms. The US company behind the project bizarrely also failed to appreciate the bumpy nature of the Le Mans track too. It was a terrifying object to drive at speed and mildly worrying to drive slowly. Technically it didn’t qualify to start at Le Mans and Technically it didn’t qualify as a finisher but the large amount of Nissan Branding around the circuit at that year’s LM 24 did help the results look less embarrassing. Ben Bowlby was the wrong man for the job.
The 4wd hybrid wouldn't have accounted for 20 seconds though across a whole lap
@@wrongcheeseat Le Mans it would, in the braking and acceleration areas that the car was just haemorrhaging time, in slow/mid speed corners it was close to un-drivable and suffered chronic under steer having to rely on the V6 Cosworth designed petrol engine up front. (That power unit was the gem in the whole project, never missed a beat) The rear driveshafts through the Venturi Ducts made insignificant changes to the aerodynamic effects.
would love to see a video about the Mercedes Benz E63 AMG V8 supercar in 2013-15
Oh noooo I completely forgot about the 307 WRC!! What a national tragedy
A national tragedy, but most importantly, a 𝘗𝘦𝘶𝘨𝘦𝘰𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦
Great video like your previous ones.
Make a video on the 2008 Subaru Impreza WRC
Too be fair the 08 Impreza was pretty good tbh it was just against two of the best (in my view) WRC cars ever in the Citreon C4 WRC and the 2006-2010 era Focus Focus WRC rally cars.
Love the trance you picked for this video!
can you do a history of the polo rally car, its one of my favs
I'm not sure the Polo would suit the theme of the channel given how successful it is, but I did mention it a bit in the Fabia video
ua-cam.com/video/ABSrJdgxEek/v-deo.html
Interesting idea, bit flawed but it's subjective. 👍👍👍👍
GT-R The absolute Worse in everything.
Oh! I loved the SEAT! It did well in New Zealand!
might I suggest doing the Nissan Delta Wing?
sorry to be that guy but what is the music in the background during the nissan nismo showcase (6:44 to 10:22) ? it slaps
Can you rank flavours of N Cereal
Lmao the way you said peööööögeo conveööööööötible
Still no songlist :c
I was going to add one, but I remembered that youtube takes videos down for having lists in the description sometimes because they think it's tag spamming.
Whats the background music during the intro!😊
Acecream - LoVe Me
@@FailedRacers No wonder these songs are bangers, it's tracker music!
whats the song at 4:50?
Karsten Koch - Aryx
peugeot main issue was transmission..
hey, could you do a doc on porche rally cars, like you did for skoda
F1Life car btcc Peugeot 307 from 2003_2006 They are the worst. Off the top of my mind.
Worst race cars tier list
I like how the 307 looks, can't see all that horror in it
The pooper scoreboard
307 wrc is one of the most beautiful rally cars ever
DOME RC82?
I agree👍
Why do British people say it “Perjo”? I’m American and I say it correctly (for the record most Americans called it Pugot, I’m not even kidding)
Because it's the correct way to say it. Most Americans say poo joe, which is very wrong
@@FailedRacers there’s no R in it
It's a French word, so we use the French pronunciation.
@@FailedRacers I didn’t think it was correct because I’ve used that pronunciation myself and people from different countries tell me it’s wrong
The 2004 F1 Ferrari definitely fits ;)
You forgot the SEAT failed WRc programe
Please Pay Attention
what are the musiclists?
10:10❤❤❤❤❤
2/10 stylling for the 307 ? What? Are we looking at the same car ? More like 7 to 8 out of 10
There are angles from which the 307 WRC looks convincing, but the spoiler placement is hideous. The early-2000s elongated Peugeot headlights are the worst of PSA - they looked interesting on the small 206, but ruined the aesthatics of bigger cars such as the 307, 407 and 607. Rear window is pretty weird too. The widened wheel arches and racing mods of course help the overall picture look more agressive, but I highly recommend looking at body-in-white version which exposes the overall ugliness of the design. 4/10 at most. That said - the 306 Maxi looked like it was made in a tuk-tuk workshop as well (2/10), and it still became one of the most famed Peugeot rally cars of all time. The 206 WRC was maybe 6/10, the 205 T16 is in the range of 8/10 and the 406 Coupe Silhouette is the true 10/10 racing car styling.
I drive
Not going to mention that the 307 took a life? RIP
I wouldn't really blame the 307 for that. It was built to the FIA's safety standards of the day, and it was in perfect mechanical condition. What happened with Michael Park was just unfortunate. There isn't really anything or anyone at fault for it.