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  • So... Arceus is kind of a cool Pokemon huh? Well, what did it ORIGINALLY look like and what does that mean?
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  • @blackheartzerotheundergrou3225
    @blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 3 роки тому +2101

    *Normal Arceus:* God as the bearded old man in a robe that humans commonly depict Him as.
    *Beta Arceus:* the unknowable eldritch lifeform that God would actually look like.

    • @mislavgrosinic5584
      @mislavgrosinic5584 3 роки тому +35

      I like the cannon design better

    • @Ohm-gb2t698F
      @Ohm-gb2t698F 3 роки тому +117

      @@schaefer76 What if the canon Arceus is an avatar of Beta or True Arceus?

    • @SalComPimenta
      @SalComPimenta 3 роки тому +33

      @Pedro Albino it would also explain why Arceus is such an weak pokemon for the pokemon god

    • @TotallyWixked
      @TotallyWixked 3 роки тому +7

      I don’t know about the “that God would actually look like” part but okay buddy

    • @TotallyWixked
      @TotallyWixked 3 роки тому +4

      @Joonatan Isoaho well tbh I don’t see a resemblance in arceus and normal humans

  • @Teen_Drama
    @Teen_Drama 3 роки тому +325

    Nintendo employee in Ms paint in 2006: "yep that'll do for now"
    The rest of us: discusses a whole hypothetical lore abt this thing

    • @andressamartins1786
      @andressamartins1786 3 роки тому +4

      Yep

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 роки тому +11

      Arceus is fine.
      I think what we need is the Original Spirit taking Shape.
      Imagine how cool it would be to have Anime and/or Games show
      Pokemon that act weird, almost like they dont know how a Pokemon
      of their species should behave. They explore what Pokemon and Humans are;
      but they are neither Mew nor Ditto.
      I believe in and hope for a Pokemon older and stronger than Arceus, either way.
      But something small and strange would be best, i think. ...Dont just make it bigger...

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 3 роки тому +3

      @@loturzelrestaurant *slams table* ELDRITCH POKEMON.

  • @bibarel5097
    @bibarel5097 4 роки тому +1223

    I actually liked the concept of beta Arceus design!!!..

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  4 роки тому +100

      Yeah, I think it's interesting. Very whispy.

    • @Srbija191
      @Srbija191 3 роки тому +10

      I agree

    • @HPSshorts
      @HPSshorts 3 роки тому

      It’s not a concept

    • @gamesgamer2091
      @gamesgamer2091 3 роки тому +8

      Yall are on crack, the best design is clearly my boy, Beta Regigigas. Look at him, he gots the bronk

    • @amy_tmie3262
      @amy_tmie3262 3 роки тому

      Caraca man, você está até aqui

  • @Tavanomg
    @Tavanomg 4 роки тому +887

    Guys, always remember
    "YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO TOMBOY PROPAGANDA"

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  4 роки тому +108

      I have no idea what's you're talking about :)

    • @Tavanomg
      @Tavanomg 4 роки тому +19

      @@GatorEXsuuure :]

    • @axolotlinabucket1287
      @axolotlinabucket1287 3 роки тому +34

      but what if i was gay
      im god know

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 3 роки тому +28

      It isn't propaganda if you already held the same belief, then it's a bit more dangerous.

    • @iN_Vz
      @iN_Vz 3 роки тому +9

      @@axolotlinabucket1287 stroke

  • @icouldntthinkofaname155
    @icouldntthinkofaname155 3 роки тому +686

    Actually, I could see this design being used as a sort of "True form" for Arceus. As for how it'd fit into the story, maybe instead of Cyrus using the power of Palkia, Dialga, and/or Giritina to make a new, perfect, world, maybe he could use Arceus and unleash it's true power, maybe through the idea of breaking or removing it's ring, as suggested in the video, or using some sort item, like that flute thing from the scrapped Arceus event.

    • @johndavis4194
      @johndavis4194 3 роки тому +21

      maybe this could be like a thing like geriteina in the distortion realm or something like that
      ok so you have are arceus which is merely a avatar of this one and if or when you go to lets just call it the *arc world* or something this is what you see this is his true form this is *the* arceus its just to powerful to enter the mortal world and so it made the arceus we had as a avatar something it could but a bit of its power in and walk among this world
      its only a idea but that would be cool

    • @todthetoad5331
      @todthetoad5331 3 роки тому +14

      So basically Arceus is just its a physical body of the true Arceus (which is the Bata design) and let's just say if you could battle is...
      1st it would probably be all types
      2nd CANNOT catch it
      3rd the battle would way overpowered like maybe 30 lv. Above u always (lowest would be lv. 80 + also only double your highest lv. Pokemon)
      Bonus if the music was a mest up mythical remix of Arceus' theme

    • @GPanimates
      @GPanimates 3 роки тому +19

      @@todthetoad5331 instead all types maybe a ability called "the ancient one" which makes it so it has no weakness but no immunity either

    • @Pokemaster-wg9gx
      @Pokemaster-wg9gx 3 роки тому +4

      I like how the Zeta and Omicron games handled it where Arceus’s plates became their own sentient boss pokemon you had to fight and were uncatchable

    • @todthetoad5331
      @todthetoad5331 3 роки тому +2

      @@GPanimates good idea but maybe both because it would be painful to fight just like fighting a GOD

  • @theraginginfernape9496
    @theraginginfernape9496 3 роки тому +466

    The idea that maybe Arceus's form as we see it isn't it's true form and this thing predates it sounds cool.
    There was a theory I saw where the Arceus we see is made up from romanticized art based from Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina's design from the people of the past. Arceus saw this art and found it amusing and flattered that it changed into this form to display in front of humans. Even if it wasn't in this form, we could not see it's true form and this blob is the shroud that covers it. Who knows? Maybe the true form has those 1000 arms it used to create the world.

    • @reallifeamogus915
      @reallifeamogus915 3 роки тому +2

      1000*

    • @limethelizard
      @limethelizard 3 роки тому +14

      The quote "1,000 arms" refers to unknown as they have a dimension which is made entirely of unknown

    • @limethelizard
      @limethelizard 3 роки тому +1

      My logic and wording might be off but what I am trying to say is correct

    • @sptflcrw8583
      @sptflcrw8583 3 роки тому +6

      That’s literally canon. The first sentence, that is.

    • @jeremychristianestillore1446
      @jeremychristianestillore1446 3 роки тому

      @@limethelizard A reference to Buddhism..
      Interesting.

  • @lunarcat4278
    @lunarcat4278 3 роки тому +293

    I think we can quickly cover both why Arceus looks like it does and why one can stuff it in a ball.
    It is a divine avatar, one sent to test trainers, it is a physical tangible form so it doesn't just outright kill the poor 10-ish year old it's testing this generation. But since this is also a trial it is allowing its capture. Something that gains evidence from a far lesser legendary in Calyrex. If one can overcome their immense power and capture them then the trainer deserves to be accompanied with these Pokémon.

    • @DerVasto
      @DerVasto 3 роки тому +25

      Makes sense, as it can't be that someone just captures GOD and then potentially stores it in a ball forever, not letting God do its thing.

    • @pooperdooper3576
      @pooperdooper3576 3 роки тому +1

      *cough* it's just a game *cough*

    • @DerVasto
      @DerVasto 3 роки тому +7

      @@pooperdooper3576 Wait...so you´re telling me, all this time, my Pokeballs, which I tried my best to stuff as much of my captured Pokemon into, are not working?
      That could explain the stench...

    • @lunarcat4278
      @lunarcat4278 3 роки тому +8

      @@pooperdooper3576 I'm aware it's only game mechanics but this appears to be the reasoning in universe that Game Freak is playing into. At least the legendary Pokémon are testing you part.

    • @waffles7z
      @waffles7z 3 роки тому +3

      in Pokémon Conquest, Arceus is shown as invincible, to the point where he doesn't take damage, and you can only link with it, showing how normal items like pokeballs or weapons are meaningless in a battle against It, and honestly, i feel like that is Beta Arceus, not holding itself back durig this ''trial'' since you, the player, have united the regionj with your hands.
      This, is Beta Arceus, deciding to take up the form of it's avatar since the lesser beings have depicted it, as It's true form.

  • @tippyfrog1210
    @tippyfrog1210 3 роки тому +293

    Beta Arceus looks like the original spirit form of Arceus, before it shaped it's current form and the pokemon universe.

  • @smittzero8463
    @smittzero8463 3 роки тому +60

    I like the idea that the Arceus in the games/anime (in addition to the creation trio) is merely an avatar of the Original One. The Pokemon you're able to throw a Poke Ball at is nothing but one of Arceus' "thousand arms" that watches over this portion of the universe.

  • @Jetfox967
    @Jetfox967 4 роки тому +148

    An Eldritch God

  • @Serious5GamingS5G
    @Serious5GamingS5G 3 роки тому +43

    Maybe if if we take off the ring here
    Arceus: *DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT OR ELSE YOU WILL GO TO THE DISTORTION WORLD!*

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 3 роки тому +2

      Arceus is fine.
      I think what we need is the Original Spirit taking Shape.
      Imagine how cool it would be to have Anime and/or Games show
      Pokemon that act weird, almost like they dont know how a Pokemon
      of their species should behave.
      They explore what Pokemon and Humans are;
      but they are neither Mew nor Ditto.
      I believe in and hope for a Pokemon older and stronger than Arceus, either way.
      But something small and strange would be best, i think. ...Dont just make it bigger...

  • @birddy3611
    @birddy3611 4 роки тому +81

    3:06 So actually the King of Dittos?

    • @spaghetti5914
      @spaghetti5914 3 роки тому +7

      well techically dittos are like mew lite, and mew is heavily connected with the creation of pokemon soooo

  • @zorubark
    @zorubark 3 роки тому +77

    Imagine Beta Arceus as a eternamax
    A big, spirit looking entity that glows yellow or red with red/orange eyes, how awesome would that be?

  • @acedeepy4479
    @acedeepy4479 3 роки тому +26

    arceus when we take off the ring :
    B E T A A R C E U S

  • @leggomyeggo5773
    @leggomyeggo5773 4 роки тому +163

    the sinnoh remake hint timeline/ pokemon shoving gen 4 down our throats.
    1. gen 3 remakes come out so gen 4 is next
    2. around sun and moon they gave us way too many sinnoh related stuff
    3. the datamines that always include sinnoh items
    4. this

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  4 роки тому +19

      Based on patterns, it's only a matter of time

    • @leggomyeggo5773
      @leggomyeggo5773 3 роки тому +13

      @@GatorEX well see you when your 50

    • @raeldrews1187
      @raeldrews1187 3 роки тому

      Wellllll where is gen 2 remake

    • @Apotheosister
      @Apotheosister 3 роки тому

      @@raeldrews1187
      You fool!

    • @raeldrews1187
      @raeldrews1187 3 роки тому

      @@Apotheosister well gen 1 and 3 have remakes why not 2 you bastard

  • @Spark____
    @Spark____ 3 роки тому +55

    Maybe if we just take off the ring here
    Arceus:"so thou hath chosen death"

  • @MientousGao
    @MientousGao 3 роки тому +78

    I really hope dynamax/g-max doesn’t come back in gen 4 remakes because how in the pokeworld would GALAR partials get to Sihhno?

    • @LemonLoverCockatiel
      @LemonLoverCockatiel 3 роки тому +9

      Hoping they bring bsck megas

    • @jamiesadf5829
      @jamiesadf5829 3 роки тому +8

      yeah i echo this sentiment. Fuck dynamaxing. its super tacky. I would hate for that to be included in a gen 4 remake because it would just make the whole game feel worse.

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 3 роки тому +4

      @@jamiesadf5829 Yeah sure, whatever goes for you in your little bubble where nothing can ever change and if it does you shit your pants and cry

    • @goatgeta6549
      @goatgeta6549 3 роки тому +3

      @@alfalldoot6715 You would rather have Dynamax over Mega Evolution?

    • @DekuCanDoIt
      @DekuCanDoIt 3 роки тому +3

      @@goatgeta6549 mEgA DYnAmAx

  • @Pichuscute
    @Pichuscute 3 роки тому +190

    Yeah, Arceus's final design just doesn't feel at all unique when compared to any of the other Pokemon, which makes his supposed "god" status really difficult to believe. As far as we normally see. If they had gone with a polished version of this beta design instead, it would have given a lot more of a contrast when compared with everything else, which would definitely reinforce it's role in the lore significantly better. It also just makes a lot more sense for something god-like to be something a lot more abstract than what we ended up with.

    • @dangerjoe8911
      @dangerjoe8911 3 роки тому +6

      Then the whole pseudo-cosmic horror subtext gen 4 had, especially in it's bonus content (Hall of Origin, Sinjoh-Ruins) makes quite a lot more sense.

    • @Akiloxa
      @Akiloxa 3 роки тому +19

      Perhaps the arceus we see is not arceus itself but maybe some sort of image of it, one of its hands or something else. Because let’s be real, god would never appear before us AND be catchable. It’s clearly a test created by arceus and what we see is not its true form.

    • @Probably_JENOVA
      @Probably_JENOVA 3 роки тому +11

      Have you ever thought of the idea of transcendental beings that are beyond mortal comprehension taking on an avatar form that is more comprehensible and materialistic to mortals within the material world? Had mortals saw such a chaotic form of Arceus, they probably would’ve been terrified or even go insane. Arceus’ Pokémon appearance is just that. A physical form that is comprehensible to mortals. So of course you would find the god/eldritch status difficult to believe because the Pokémon avatar of it is convincing enough as intended.

    • @valeryreyes7383
      @valeryreyes7383 3 роки тому

      @Accelerando Lefebvre mmm i think it's Best because nobody knows how a god that created the World is phisically

    • @sthui2866
      @sthui2866 2 роки тому

      @@Akiloxa so something like giratina altered and origin form

  • @josepholson324
    @josepholson324 3 роки тому +62

    I like the idea that beta Arceus was the original form of him, but then people started to depict him more like he is now. Arceus decided that it found this form humorous and started appearing as such fir human comprehension as opposed to its multidimensional shadow compressed into 3d

  • @lucasfraczek4320
    @lucasfraczek4320 3 роки тому +24

    I think what they were going for with a "Pokemon God" was a primordial eldritch being with no real physical form, just something that was decently comprehensible for human minds.

  • @abarette_
    @abarette_ 3 роки тому +27

    0:39 "You are not immune to Tomboy Propaganda"

  • @Another14-
    @Another14- 3 роки тому +32

    I personally feel like Arceus doesn't really look like a pokemon

  • @GorochuVA
    @GorochuVA 3 роки тому +7

    "Let's just take off the ring here"
    Arceus: So you have chosen... death.

  • @CaptainCaliansAdventures
    @CaptainCaliansAdventures 3 роки тому +28

    Great video! Glad Beta Arceus is becoming more examined and bringing more perspective. I personally prefer Beta due to it portraying more of a cosmic horror than its final design that's more of a odd sci-fi creature. The Beta design is simple yet has complexity in a strange way, trying to visualize what it could've really looked like. It has that uneasiness like how we confronted the ghost Pokemon in Kanto without wearing the Silph Scope. The fear of the unknown. -(No pun intended, I barely noticed while typing this.)-

  • @weast4960
    @weast4960 3 роки тому +4

    I personally think that Legendary Pokémon are still "free" if you caught them. Like basically they're like "You can call me to fight!" or "I see you as my owner, and i will stay by your side" but they still rule the world. Even inside their Pokéballs.

    • @Dr.Pootis
      @Dr.Pootis 2 роки тому +1

      What if instead of them being caught, the ball breaks and they give you some item to call them that functions as their ball gameplay-wise. Imagine pulling out some golden crystal and watching as Giratina appears from the Distortion World and looks at you like "yo what's up"

  • @CLICKMENAME
    @CLICKMENAME 3 роки тому +7

    I think Arceus was supposed to be a being of energy, producing light. I feel like they couldn’t make it look good, so they went with something else. I think his beta design inspired Ultra Necrozma, more specifically the light produced and the glowing eyes. Obviously head canon, but still interesting parallels to see

  • @sweedra7899
    @sweedra7899 3 роки тому +3

    Me: _pauses video to hear mom screeching_
    Me, looking back at the video:
    *yOu ArE nOt ImMuNe To ToMbOy PrOpOgAnDa*

  • @commentslaveaccountlol2524
    @commentslaveaccountlol2524 3 роки тому +25

    I’m a big fan of beta Arceus. Imo it’s final design is kinda bland when you think about the fact that Arceus is the Pokégod. I think that beta Arceus has both a cute baby vibe and an unnerving vibe,with it’s eyes and stuff. I really hope that they’d use it’s beta design someway on the gen 4 remakes(maybe an origin form or something) because that’d really cool to see :>

    • @Fransiska_234
      @Fransiska_234 3 роки тому

      Arceus is my best pokemon team,
      Can kill ghosts type with normal move and have infinite HP, really ultra bug

    • @valeryreyes7383
      @valeryreyes7383 3 роки тому

      I think same

  • @hypwhoknowsanything3551
    @hypwhoknowsanything3551 3 роки тому +77

    Perhaps in sinnoh remake they'll reveal who created arceus' egg and it will be the beta arceus.that would be freaking epic

    • @gamheart
      @gamheart 3 роки тому +3

      Yes...YES!!!!!

    • @gusty7153
      @gusty7153 3 роки тому +3

      i like the idea that mew created arceus and inturn arceus created everythign else.

    • @NeonWasInUse
      @NeonWasInUse 3 роки тому +4

      but then where did Beta Arceus come from?

    • @gusty7153
      @gusty7153 3 роки тому +1

      @@NeonWasInUse mew

    • @gogetac2r
      @gogetac2r 3 роки тому +3

      You are giving GF way too much credit if you think they can pull that out, specially not nu GF

  • @AndrewConlan
    @AndrewConlan 3 роки тому +4

    why can i imagine Regigigas doing a smooth 60fps fornight dance...

  • @leilaclarridge5807
    @leilaclarridge5807 4 місяці тому +1

    I like to think that Beta Arceus is the form it took when they first manifested into the void that they would mold into the world we know it as. As they solidified their ideas for how to shape the universe, they took on a more corporeal form, with Vaguely Equine apparently being the prime shape.

  • @pigglypoof
    @pigglypoof Рік тому +2

    The fan art made for it definitely give it an other worldly vibe

  • @DashunicornII
    @DashunicornII 3 роки тому +6

    If Arceus gets some sort of Max form like Eternatus than it has to be even more grand, kinda like how kyogre and groudon received Primal forms

  • @jeanremi8384
    @jeanremi8384 3 роки тому

    i saw this just before listening to pokémon SMD's dark matter theme.
    very fitting, GatorEX

  • @Crossark1
    @Crossark1 3 роки тому +3

    Even as a kid playing these games, I was always sorta under the impression that the Arceus we catch ISN’T actually Arceus, but just something akin to an avatar of Arceus. I even feel like I have a memory of the game being somewhat open about that being the reason we can catch it, and why we can’t use it to fundamentally reshape reality as we know it in the Pokémon universe (other than the meta-narrative reasoning that it’s a pre-programmed video game). It’s entirely possible that that isn’t the case, but it still remains as my interpretation of Arceus. It would also explain why he’s so flashy - devas and avatars from real mythology tend to be resplendent in finery, after all.

  • @Xanegoh
    @Xanegoh 3 роки тому +4

    Way I see it, the Arceus we commonly know is the physical form it takes when appearing before mortals. The near-shapeless mass that is 'beta' Arceus is the closest to what its true form looks like. In simple terms, we have no idea what Arceus actually looks like and is probably far beyond our human comprehension.

  • @the14thshadow83
    @the14thshadow83 Рік тому

    Man took “1 man’s trash is another man’s treasure” to heart lol

  • @jackcorbett937
    @jackcorbett937 3 роки тому +11

    But do you think the spirit belongs with the Unown?

  • @tapgames3465
    @tapgames3465 3 роки тому +14

    I really hope a primal arceus or true arceus exist that looks like the beta arceus in the sinnoh remakes

  • @Boedinator
    @Boedinator 3 роки тому +1

    That beta sprite legit creeps me out and I love it, I could only imagine what it’s fry would sound like.

  • @kyleyuen245
    @kyleyuen245 Рік тому +1

    I like to see it as Legends Arceus where Arceus lets you have them to view the world, you've earned it

  • @charizardfan1017
    @charizardfan1017 Рік тому +2

    An explanation that I like for why Arceus can be caught is because it just lets you do so
    Arceus, and by extension, all Legendaries, immortal, therefore after you die they can just go back to doing whatever the fuck they were doing before like they just took a 1 week long vacation, which is exactly what it would feel like to them. What is one human's lifetime compared to eternity?

  • @ScotchCouch
    @ScotchCouch 4 місяці тому +1

    “You are not immune to Tomboy Propoganda”
    Who saw that? 0:41

  • @albedo7113
    @albedo7113 3 роки тому

    The laugh at Regigas design omg was so fitting xD.

  • @nightblade3709
    @nightblade3709 3 роки тому +2

    Gonna throw this out there, but beta Arceus reminds me a lot of the Giratina we encounter at the Spear Pillar that pulled Cyrus into the distortion world. It was almost as if it didn't take a fully physical form and was beyond understanding until we encounter it properly, similar to beta Arceus. And considering Giratina was there to stop Dialga and Palkia, perhaps that shadowy form is Giratina's true form, allowing it to unleash its true power, and it only took that form because it was trying to stop what it perceived as an enemy powerful enough to destroy the universe (what Cyrus was doing). If this is true, perhaps Beta Arceus is Arceus' unbound true form and Dialga and Palkia also have similar forms (but were unable to transform into them bc they were captured before they could). The reason why they take on the forms we currently know, then, is because of the lake guardians giving them more stable forms in which to govern the universe with without risking one of these pokemon destroying the fabric of the universe.
    But that's just my take

  • @skhighglitch4217
    @skhighglitch4217 3 роки тому

    02:17 On the first day man was granted a soul, and with it, clarity.

  • @davidbravo8073
    @davidbravo8073 3 роки тому +2

    Perhaps What we see of arceus is some kind of shell, with the mysterious "beta" entity within.

  • @SaiyanGamer95
    @SaiyanGamer95 5 місяців тому +1

    I know this video was released before Legends: Arceus, but I do still want to mention that PLA reveals the Arceus we see in game is just an avatar, a portion of its power. It's true form is unknown and incomprehensible.

  • @knightfenrirwulfhart2866
    @knightfenrirwulfhart2866 3 роки тому +1

    I have always felt that the Sinnoh legendaries that you encounter in game are just the lesser avatars or incarnations of the true gods they are. They are only letting you use them for fun. The battle is really only testing if you even deserve to handle their weakest powers. And Arceus's final form seems to be a "noble-esque" appearance. Basically it's dressing up for fun. Or its appearing that way because D/P protags are kinda fancy pancy so it would appear kinda fancy pancy noble to appeal to the protag.

  • @louiseheiwood2688
    @louiseheiwood2688 3 роки тому +1

    Normal Arceus- goat stuck in a fence
    Beta Arceus- “B E N OT A F R A I D... *I SAID BE NOT AFRAID!* “

  • @PM90005
    @PM90005 3 роки тому +2

    This was the design of that spirit, this is the Pokémon that laid arceus

  • @droozyyy
    @droozyyy 3 роки тому +3

    The concept of beta Arceus is actually dope, imagine if they play with it and put it in remakes

  • @anhilliator1
    @anhilliator1 Рік тому +1

    I like to imagine that Beta Arceus is effectively "Arceus Origin," aka the formless vast thing that they were long, long before they took on physical form.

  • @leandroclarence8331
    @leandroclarence8331 4 роки тому +7

    lets just hope for the remakes.

  • @danielendless
    @danielendless 3 роки тому +2

    BETA Arceus: hey can I copy your homework?
    Ultra Necrozma: Ok, but hurry up the teacher is collecting...

  • @prodxeviant
    @prodxeviant 3 роки тому

    The ring is what bounds him to the physical realm. Would be a cool concept for D/P remakes

  • @stellaandfluffy9300
    @stellaandfluffy9300 3 роки тому +1

    The part when you where about to get arceus ring was so funny

  • @guardiandergdracolosse9911
    @guardiandergdracolosse9911 3 роки тому +1

    I would like that in the remake of sinnoh as a story after the main plot there would be a fight with arceus and when he had less than a quarter of his life left he would tear his physical form freeing his true form which would be the beta form they showed, similar to what happens with master hand and master core.

  • @Clone1625
    @Clone1625 3 роки тому

    Cosmic horror entity are the best words to describe that Arceus, I adore it

  • @RickTS
    @RickTS 3 роки тому +3

    *When you call the Fence a Ring-*

  • @dragonslayer101
    @dragonslayer101 3 роки тому +2

    When I was in school, I thought it would be cool if I made a more significant being than Arceus, which I called Galaxon. Which was a much, much larger entity than him, literally the sizeof the galaxy. His wings morphed into two galaxies, or more like porals shaped like wings that entered into the universe. He was mainly based off an owl, given the symbolism for wisdom. And the reason why Galaxon made pokemon was to make it easier to keep the world and universr balenced from evil or harm, Arceus was like his assistant, to hold his place when he sleeps, which is every thousand years. Anyway thats just a little bit about my concept idea for my story.

  • @pettermiranda4651
    @pettermiranda4651 3 роки тому

    some arts of beta arceus look so awsome

  • @a.s.raiyan2003-4
    @a.s.raiyan2003-4 Рік тому

    Arceus' creating the world after being Brin from an egg is a inspired by old myths about the creation of the world.

  • @deppo436
    @deppo436 3 роки тому +1

    I like to think the ring keeps Arceus from becoming this other worldly look in front of everyone aside from changing its type.

  • @DirectorVibeChecker
    @DirectorVibeChecker 3 роки тому +1

    Beta arceus design I think is what arceus look like when he hatch from egg

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 2 роки тому +1

    I read through a lot of the comments and saw through the whole video and I think all the ideas are pretty spot on to what I thought Beta Arceus would be like in-game or in other media. We still see the Arceus design we've come to know over the years, but the player and others around them have to question how the heck they were able to catch what is essentially God. That is until they realize this isn't actually them but rather an avatar sent to test the player and observe how Pokemon are treated on Earth. With that said, when you catch glimpses of the actual Arceus, you can't even grasp its physical appearance, apart from the gilatenous etherial look of the beta sprite. And if you've treated your Pokemon well, they'll probably go to you in this form to give their gratitude.

  • @nickkayfabe6147
    @nickkayfabe6147 3 роки тому +1

    I like to believe this is the original arceus. Many, many, MANY eons ago, it looked like this, however, it used some of its power to create dialga, palkia, and giratina. It lost some power, and took the form it currently has. Maybe in the sinnoh remakes, arceus is fused with dialga, palkia, and giratina again, and becomes its beta design. It has 255 base stats around the board, and it can use any move in the game (including signature moves), can change its ability at any time to any of them, and can change its typing to anything, depending on what move you’re about to use. You aren’t meant to win. It is immune to all Pokéballs. You only “win” the battle once you run out of Pokémon, and Cynthia calms it down. It then unfuses, and arceus runs off, and then you take your Pokémon to a Pokécenter, and try to catch the creation trio.

  • @pickypath246
    @pickypath246 3 роки тому

    Kinda like the idea that the form we have seen is just like armor or something covering the beta design...

  • @leoperd3487
    @leoperd3487 3 роки тому +1

    Calyrex gave us insight on how children capture legendary Pokémon through dialogue

  • @egan452
    @egan452 3 роки тому

    0:40 very true, and let me say that it is not needed but much appreciated

  • @youwillsuffer8253
    @youwillsuffer8253 3 роки тому

    The beta arceus design looks like ancient writings in a temple

  • @incarnatefoolishness
    @incarnatefoolishness 3 роки тому

    “It’s even missing its signature ring around its torso”
    boi that’s a fence
    signature fence
    fence
    fence
    fence

  • @El_Gremlin8187
    @El_Gremlin8187 3 роки тому

    Ima say something. It looks like a god that is beyond our understanding so much we can't comprehend its form

  • @NebulaDark
    @NebulaDark 2 роки тому +3

    Legend arceus confirmed the arceus we see as pokemon...is just a part of arceus!!!

  • @sonicfan-vv6rp
    @sonicfan-vv6rp 3 роки тому

    Maybe the ring around arceus could be the thing keeping arceus looking like that and if the ring is detached from arceus or broken the true form of arceus shall appear and get out of its limited seal like as if the arceus we know is a form made to allow people and pokemon to comprehend arceus’s presence

  • @GFCOLCQuote
    @GFCOLCQuote 3 роки тому

    A friend of mine said since its shape is actually identical to Arceus, it would be cool that it would be a shadow of its former self and when you take it to a certain area the symbol around arceus forms around it and the darkness dissolves off and-with a great light-it purifies itself and grounds itself to the mortal plane with a more purified form... Arceus.

  • @Bunny_Crystal
    @Bunny_Crystal 3 роки тому

    I like to think of beta arceus as a massive golden spirit flying around the universe

  • @littlemisseevee2309
    @littlemisseevee2309 2 роки тому

    maybe give the player a special plate that makes arceus all types at once, basically works like this, no weakness, no resistance, stab on every element, and his design is changed to a more origin form, a simpler less ornate form that more resembles the cosmic form from the beta sprite, stats dont really change either so in an essence its as strong as before but far far more versatile, even having judgement be all type so no matter what its super effective (maybe with a slight reduction to damage to compensate for its new power) Basically the ultimate arceus form, oh also perhaps he can be the only mon with hidden power besides the unown

  • @msgameandcake628
    @msgameandcake628 3 роки тому

    Now I'm considering the potential of this design getting a Gen 5 animated sprite. After all, those sprites were animated primarily by rotating pieces of the main sprite art. However, Beta Arceus here is pretty much a silhouette, creating a unique potential with this segment rotation method.
    What if sections you didn't expect to bend did so?
    What if there were extra sections behind the main sprite, still the same base color as everything else, that bent to reveal themselves in certain parts of the animation? Completely changing it's shape in bizarre ways?
    Conversely, it's legs or head parts could potentially bend so far as to disappear into the main body mass again, given they're all the same color and assuming there wouldn't be any black outline around them.

  • @fabriserra1227
    @fabriserra1227 Рік тому

    Maybe the normal Arceus we see in games (as it was stated in the pokedex) is only one of the 1.000 arms that created the universe and Beta Arceus is when Arceus fuses with all the 1.000 arms

  • @delta9731
    @delta9731 3 роки тому

    Imagine if you could collect all the plates and combine them with arceus to make it become that form but reworked in 3d

  • @pancakes7294
    @pancakes7294 3 роки тому

    I see it as an old version of Arceus, like how the primal beings we’re the true forms of Groudon and Kyoger, Arceus is in a weakened state. It explains why he can be caught by a pokeball

  • @iamafuckingfailure
    @iamafuckingfailure 3 роки тому

    I think that with a bit of work, the arceus beta sprite could actually be amazing

  • @mlemmlem9690
    @mlemmlem9690 2 роки тому +1

    That is the cosmic entity that is the entirety of Arceus. The one we see/humans see in the games is just a fragment of it, in my opinion

  • @HAZNAUT
    @HAZNAUT 3 роки тому +4

    *Regiggigas is just wearing a onzie*

  • @JustAlex66
    @JustAlex66 3 роки тому

    You can create lots of fun theories with this beta design, like, what if this came out of the egg and then it developed as the Arceus we know?

  • @annatellez4868
    @annatellez4868 3 роки тому

    Arcues on the thumbnail looks like a meme

  • @sgtmarcusharris4260
    @sgtmarcusharris4260 2 роки тому +1

    Gives me truth from fma vibes.
    Depicting a godly being like this works as it shows how incomprehensible a being like this is.

  • @Probably_JENOVA
    @Probably_JENOVA 3 роки тому +2

    In defense of the final design Arceus, it does have aspects of its design that make sense and connects to the other Pokémon designs. The facial designs of the Creation Trio share the same facial design as Arceus (Such as Dialga’s upper face just being Arceus’ face turned to a vertical angle), jewels are a very prominent design of Arceus, The Creation Trio, and The Lake Trio. Arceus having jewels on its ring, the Jewel of Life from the movie, Palkia having pearls, Dialga having diamonds, Giratina doesn’t have a jewel embedded into its body nor does it seem to be associated with one at all but I like to believe that it’s associated with Platinum due to the title of its debut game being “Pokémon Platinum”. The Lake Trio all have jewels on their forehead and tails. In another perspective, The Creation Trio’s designs look as if you took Arceus’ physical form and made draconic versions of it. The final design makes it very clear of the connection between The Creation Trio, The Lake Trio, and itself as their creator very clear to the viewer.
    In terms of being a god, a transcendental entity, it’s likely that the final design Arceus, the one that just looks like a Pokémon, is the entity intentionally taking on a form that is more comprehensible to the mortals of the Pokémon universe and that resembles a Pokémon to them. Eldritch forms, like the beta form, are likely to drive mortals into insanity and fear. If we’re comparing it to the monotheistic God, like how everyone pretty much does at this point, then neither form of Arceus, beta or final, is its actual form. Mortals cannot physically sense God’s true being whatsoever, be it sight, hearing, touch, or smell. But in the end, I honestly do not see the point in determining in which design is better suited considering the fact that both designs can be official and made to interesting use in the lore. I feel that this whole “which appearance is better?” argument is missing the point of Arceus being a transcendental entity that is completely beyond mortal comprehension at the end of the day. So it doesn’t really matter as many keep making it out to be. That and only God is allowed to judge which form it is comfortable with.
    On the theory, at least my personal theory of why the Pokémon God allows the Pokémon Trainer to catch it with a pokéball seems to be an intentional thing of the entity. Arceus is a transcendental being that has remained in long slumbers and rarely interacts with mortals in person. It presumably observes them from above and the powerful influential bond between humans and Pokémon. Perhaps it’s willing to understand what makes the bond between humans and Pokémon so special as well as feel a sense of belonging in the world, according to its last spoken line to Ash and Pikachu in the Jewel of Life movie. Of course in the games, it’s through a test that proves that the protagonist is a trainer worthy of its presence. It can be taken in fiction that while mortals can desire deeper understanding of the transcendental, the transcendental can desire deeper understanding of mortals. An alien thing wanting to understand another alien thing.

  • @anrandom6186
    @anrandom6186 3 роки тому +1

    I feel like during a fight with Arceus, the beta sprite should appear and like power construct, it turns into the finished sprite with better stats and at 90% hp.

  • @samiljesusriverohernandez2332
    @samiljesusriverohernandez2332 9 місяців тому

    Yo vengo por que lo vi en tik tok donde vi casi todos tus videos de dibujar dragones y demonios ❤ amo tus vides 😊😊😊 estare atento a la segunda parte ❤❤❤

  • @dimensiongoat871
    @dimensiongoat871 3 роки тому +1

    I’m kind of curious of that one frame that said “You’re not immune to tomboy propaganda” at 0:40

  • @joshstryker9816
    @joshstryker9816 3 роки тому

    I like that even with the early designs you can kinda see what they were made to be in the end.... except the 2 middle in the top row. I can easily name the rest (thanks to thumbnail) but I dont know what that spikeyball and raikou wannabe is supposed to be 🤔

  • @exotic9417
    @exotic9417 3 роки тому +1

    "You are not immune to
    Tomboy Propoganda"

  • @MaryyInsertSomethingHere
    @MaryyInsertSomethingHere 4 місяці тому +2

    I headcannon that the beta sprite is arceus true form and he uses that one to not scare humans or pokemons

  • @endless_fox1462
    @endless_fox1462 3 роки тому

    I'm just imagining what gmax form legendaries would have. Having Arceus' beta sprite would be a cool gmax form, but imagine the others

  • @Cosmic_exlipws35w
    @Cosmic_exlipws35w 5 місяців тому

    I watched a video about the Pokémon family tree. It started off with true form Arceaus which is this design and created arceaus & unknown

  • @snor161
    @snor161 3 роки тому +1

    “You are not immune to to bow propaganda”

  • @globroz
    @globroz 3 роки тому

    what’s the song that started playing at 2:39?

  • @lilharm
    @lilharm 3 роки тому +1

    Beta arceus is arceus before he went trough the fence