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The Definitive Guide to Stealth - Elite Dangerous Odyssey
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- One of the key skills in Odyssey, and one aspect I absolutely love about the expansion, is its stealth mechanics. This guide explains it all!
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:58 What you will learn in this guide
1:38 Why use stealth?
2:33 The Rules of Stealth
2:54 Stage 1: Detection
3:11 Stage 2: Reaction
4:15 Prohibited actions (Don't get seen doing them!)
4:44 Stage 3: Escalation or Resolution (and resetting)
6:44 How do you avoid detection?
8:28 Outro
Correction: In the video I explain that scanning anyone will incur an attack. This is only the case when the target has a bounty (if they are clean, they will grumble and protest but will let you scan them).
From a stealth perspective, I'd still strongly discourage openly scanning anyone. If they do have a bounty, it'll put your mission at risk and carries no benefits over scanning without getting detected.
One I'd add: Get good at using the the camsuite.
Think of it like throwing up a mini-spy drone. Find a safe spot, then unlock the camera. You can use it to _fly_ around the settlement, and you can see guard patrols in real time. You won't be able to tag them, of course. But you can at least use your _drone_ to get a bead on their positions and observe their routes.
It has a limited range, so I usually go sector by sector, or get somewhere central to cover an equal area. It's a really handy tool to peek behind walls and larger buildings and find where everyone is so I can tag them. And, if you're really lucky, you can even tailgate someone entering a building and get a peek inside.
interesting without breaking rules of immersion and cheating or killing everything without taste gameplay. good thing
Great breakdown of the mechanics. I'm a fan of this gameplay as well.
EDIT:
I've edited out my original tip here to avoid confusion as it was patched out several patches ago.
It's a useful tip and will be included in my infiltration guide ;)
Great tip, thanks!
@@rootsrat this was patched out since then FYI
@@StealthBoyElite Ah I see. Thanks!
Yeah, one at a time now
The most important -> disable alarm first! if u dont -> disable alarm first! So u have more time to kill all peoples and do what u want without new enemies at settlement.
Great stuff. One tip, worth sharing, is if a guard starts scanning and you would be in trouble from it, you can interrupt (once) by drawing your weapon, and holstering again. They will forget about the scan.
Great tip! This is something I've seen elsewhere. I may add it to a later video I've got planned, thanks!
This guide is awsome. I am so glad I finally found this. So much info i've seen about how to do Odyssey missions starts with "step 1: Equip your ship with dumbfire missiles step 2: nuke the settlement from orbit. etc.....etc....." In other words 'lets bypass the whole on foot gameplay mechanic and just cheese the whole thing from my ship' I mean yea that PROBABLY works, MOST of the time. But FFS how bout someone figures out how to do the missions the game way. It's not like it's impossible or anything, as you've proved here. So thank you for this and the other guides on doing Odyssey stuff. :)
Appreciate it! Dumfires are a solution but, as you say, it's not really "on foot" is it? This kind of cheese solutions are what inspired me to start these guides in the first place.
I'm back playing the game (T8 update is pretty big news for me) and I may revisit this guide as quite a bit of it is outdated (i.e. you can't just land on the pads any more like you could when I put this video together).
This was an absolute joy to watch and listen to CMDR. I really liked your breakdown at the beginning of "Tell them what you are planning doing", I wonder if you were trained in a professional role? I used to work for the Military and that's exactly how we were trained to Instruct other personnel.
Truly excellent liked and subbed.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I have indeed had a wide array of training in the area of presentation and training others. Though it was more of an office environment, I'm sure it all translates well and it definitely helps to build a flowing narrative. Thank you for subbing! There's lots more to come, including more combat and engineers oriented stuff.
I hear about you and everything I did hear was 100% correct, you make awesome guides and I'm surprised more people didn't recognize this, I'm subscribing, and keep up the good work commander, o7
If you go to a terminal and target every staff member once, they will automatically be scanned and appear on your radar. Also, as of update 2 you can double click to instantly transfer/overload with the energy link.
Yes, I'm going to feature the click all npcs to get the grey dots in my next video :)
Excellent guide, I love the stealth aspect Odyssey brings.
Thanks for this - an excellent guide, very clear and to the point. Now to see if I can be better at stealth than I am at on-foot combat!
New video planned this weekend. After that, I'm planning to do some guides around combat (and specifically using stealth to make combat missions easier).
Sanning an NPC is actually legal, however if the scan reveals that the NPC in question has a bounty, and that NPC sees you scan them, they will become aggressive, which will usually bring in the rest of the settlement
Sent here by The Buur Pit o7
Great content, subscribed :)
first usefull video in my search for that topic - thank you very much. I am the man of information and not opinions - this is why i liked it, more data and less rubling. Keep it up!
Good watch, helped me with the sneaky missions!
Great video, thanks! One correction - scanning anyone with legal mode (same as the guards scanning you) does NOT trigger an aggresive reaction.
Thanks! Yes, I already added a correction to this in the video description ;)
Commander Buur sent me. Excellent guide, I will now watch the rest! Thank you for the time and effort in sharing your knowledge and tactics.
Great video! Not too fast and easy to understand even for a dummy like me as English is not my native language. Other UA-camrs go through tutorials as if it was a speedrun trough the game and are impossible to follow. I'm new to the odyssey part of the game and tutorials are always helpful. Keep up the good work and you'll get my likes and I'll also follow you of course.
These guides are absolutely brilliant. Well done ...Keep. Them. Coming.
Thanks so much! Love your channel, it means so much to know you like my work! More stuff coming soon.
@@StealthBoyElite Hey! ....we've got you in the news today btw o7
@@TheBuurPit amazing, thank you! I'll have a watch! Just about to send you an email to your business enquiries address (got a couple questions for you if that's ok?)
Thank you. This was wonderful. I've been doing settlement infiltrations over and over again but I kept on losing.
i cant believe this has already been out for a whole year! thanks for the guide! on day 2 of getting my butt handed to me in odyssey. it's not very forgiving for low level commanders!
cool tutorial and video sound great 💫💥
I guess having a suit with the augmented scan modification will be useful, I did the one with the stealthy steps, augmented jump and.. running fast haha
Very helpful video, thanks!!! from Taiwan
Thank you this will prove very helpful.
First time viewer, can't wait for more. Subbed! 😁
well done cmdr great video
Congratulations on a great series of videos. Just what the doctor ordered.
Odyssey has pretty decent stealth for mmo, especially interesting it comes because you have no save option like in single player games
Great and informative content! Subscribed! I look forward to seeing your future videos.
Great guide, thanks! Subbed
Thank you great and very helpful video subscribed
Great stuff gonna cover it on the show this Friday! o7
Awesome thanks, I'm subscribing!
Great video thanks For the tips!
Very good tutorial format and lots of useful infos. Thank you for sharing your insights. Liked an subscribed.
This is a top tier video. Very well done
Thanks so much! I got a notification for another comment you left on another video in the last day but I can't find it anywhere. So can't reply to it but what I could read of it (the whole message isn't shown in the notifications) it was an amazing comment, thank you so much. It means a lot to me!
I felt that I had squeaky shoes. After seeing this, I now have several power regulators and a few angry settlements. Thanks
Glad it helped!
Solid tips, thanks.
Oh, man! You are a life saver!
Very nice, thanks!
Awesome man. Thanks a lot for the explanation.
Great guide, thank you!
I were kind of lucky to find a Karma P-15 (the starting/Kinetic Pistol) that had a built-in Audio Masking, ("Suppressor" when in Vaccum) so I went and added the "indoor"/in atmosphere counterpart
However, at least statistically, I don't think that a single Headshot would be enough to kill anyone.
Nice! Still a good find. The P-15 does quite a bit of damage so if you get it to G5 and add the extra headshot damage mod? Might just be enough to do silent headshot stealth kills.
@@StealthBoyElite the problem is to farm the 15 Settlement Defense Plans that Hero Ferrari need (as of writing this, I've only found 1 :'( ) to refer me to Wellington Beck, and then Uma Laslo, who can apply that mod.
@@ARWINGx1 find irregular markers with a threat level 1 to 3. Some have a crashed skimmer with a data port. Farm it (log out and back works for poi). You'll get the 15 in much shorter time. Took me maybe 2 hours
@@StealthBoyElite Well, I'm looking. But so far, the closest that I got were those WITHOUT the [Threat Level #]
('course, I'm still looking)
Edit: aaand, I just found one (and yes, it includes a crashed Skimmer)
very useful inormation, thank you!
Good to know, I genuinely did not know unholstered weapons weren't allowed in settlements.
Very informative, thanks
not interested in stealth + commbat but clandestine operations not being noticed not raising any emergency really get out.. all contextual no meta tricks .. good video to know rules of the game , no spoiler really
i don t like the shooting in what is a raid (too easy to destroy everything as a pirate criminal mafia) so this guide is finally something useful but hard to find! also u dnt mention u make pass out that npc with a overcharge electric hit.. what possible consequences?..
Great video. Thanks!
Thank you for some direct simple tips, I'll try to apply these. Stealth seems deep enough to keep it interesting, I'm suprised FDev pulled it off.
It is disappointing there aren't non-lethal takedowns, to avoid bounties… and, you know, they may have kids waiting at home.
Also, so far I've seen two entrances only on one building type (PWR), having only one entry/exit (sort of) make sense in vacuum, but this reduces flexibility of stealthy approach. I want options!
Unfortunately all takedowns have to be lethal because of the PEGI rating system in the UK. Apparently killing is PEGI-16, but being able to incapacitate someone and _then_ kill them bumps it up to PEGI-18. I guess it's considered more violent. And since it wouldn't make sense to make incapacitated targets invulnerable, this seems to have been their solution.
Personally I'd prefer the Energylink Overload being a non-lethal stun gun, and that's how I head canon it for my own enjoyment.
@@MarkZeroGaming does it mean that games like Thief / DeusEx / Prey etc have to be 18+? It is a logical explanation, but feels bad for games that go to great lengths to give you the freedom NOT to murderise everyone in sight.
7:35 Uploading Malware as well?
After starting the upload, the technician immediately turned around and hit the alarm. Wanted to do it quietly behind his back
Awesome video, thank you!
In an open environment, does help staying crouched in order to reduce visibility while NPCs use torches to see you? Or is crouch mainly for reducing sound and hide behind obstacles?
How does one infiltrate a a power centre with two researchers non-lethally? It seems nearly impossible with their patrol patterns. You can't disable the alarms without killing/being seen.
I hope when you get back into youtube that you can help us use stealth to do a settlement massacre at level 5 threat. Note, they seem to be waiting for you if keep trying to pick up the same mission later.
I will cover this at some point as it's now basically the same as the massacre missions with the "They know you're coming" mission mod. It extends the mission time quite a lot though so it's now definitely much more efficient to just learn how to kill fast and go in all guns blazing. But for those who want to avoid that, there are strategies. I actually started to record footage for such a guide when things went wrong for me. I can now play again so perhaps I'll get to it soon.
@@StealthBoyElite
I look forward to your upcoming videos.
Perhaps the new Scorpion SRV will even the odds when doing settlement raids with air support.
8:01 I feel like this should be covered in a separate video. How exactly does one avoid being spotted doing illegal things such as cloning an identity. You make it look a lot easier than it is in practice and it's not clear at all why the second method works (it's obvious that the NPC could still see you, if they bothered to look back).
Thanks for the comment! The first npc was already aware of me leading up to my clone. The second wasn't.
If you're visible to an npc enough that they say something to you, there's a short period after they look away that they may still peer over their shoulder if you do something illegal.
It's not easy to nail down exactly how this works but the simple way to avoid detection is to not get seen in the first place or just be patient and make sure the npc isn't looking over their shoulder.
I quite like this being somewhat ambiguous. It feels a little more lifelike.
Not sure if it was changed, but an NPC saw me steal something outside and the alarms went off. I drove out 500m+ and it's not resetting after 5+ minutes. 🤔
Alarms don't reset automatically. You can turn it off though.
I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. I was in a habitat with one single other NPC, they were definitely not aware of me looking out the window, I was approaching while crouched, their back turned to me, I zap them = Bounty. Nobody saw me, nobody else was aggressive.
You didn't do anything wrong so to speak. Killing = bounty no matter how silent. This is a throwback from the way ship vs ship bounties work. It's not great. The only way to avoid penalties is to avoid detection.
Oh! I need this!
If you clone an NPC's security profile, do you then have to avoid all guards' scans? They seem to magically know a security profile is fake. Presumably as they know what the real worker looks like. And yet doors aren't able to recognise fake IDs.
How do I approach a settlement if I come by ship? Do I have to land 4-5 km away, then drive closer in my SRV , like until 500m distance or so?
Yeh, these days (things changed since the release of this guide), if you wish to remain undetected, you cannot land too close. 4-5km is excessive though. Around 1.5km should do it, closer if the settlement is sat on terrain that offers covered approach at lower altitude.
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Does exist sileced weapons for this missions? Or another way to silent take down guards?
silenced weapons don't exist. Any weapon can become silenced if engineered with "Audio Masking" and "Noise Suppressor"
I didn't quite catch how to passive scan a guard (@7:00). Can you/anyone explain it?
Good question! You simply aim the cross hair (the dot in the middle of the screen) at them when close enough, for a second or so. You'll see their name show once it's done.
@@StealthBoyElite Thank you. (I'm on Xbox.)
Great video - I've just started playing EDO but have been very confused about these very rules. 1 dumb question though.... will ALL looted items you are carrting alert a guard if they scan you? Or are some items more triggering than others??
Glad you liked it! Just the goods marked traceable and mission items (like stolen ones). They'll give you a warning top right when you take them.
@@StealthBoyElite thanks again! I'll look out for those 2 types of items.
I guess the safest way to loot would be only grab non traceable stuff at first. Then when it's safer, loot the rest...
What's a passive scan?
Scanning an npc by looking at them, as opposed to the active scan when using the scanner
Thank you ! is this still revelant for update 9 ?
There's a good chance some has changed. I'm away from the game right now but when I return I'll make sure you release some content that is up to date!
I thought all soldiers had shields and hit points are the same on all parts of body. How can you stealth a mission if you can't kill anyone with one shot.
Shields are always turned off by default and locational damage exists (head shots cause more damage). Many upgraded weapons can kill in one shot with no shields up.
You can see me demonstrate this in my guide to stealth combat.
very helpfull!
Great guide, but I didn't understand what "passive scan" means...
It's the scan you do "passively". This means without actively scanning. So, just when you look at them.
Actively scanning is when you use the analyser to scan them for a bounty.
@@StealthBoyElite Many Thanks!
Great video. I saw a video where even though the alarms were disabled, the patrol ship still attacked. Is the a way to avoid the patrol ship attacking? Also will shooting your gun trigger an alarm? Meaning can you kill an NPC with your gun or do you need to use the overload tool for a stealth kill?
I don't think there is a way to stop this but I'm not convinced it's supposed to work that way.
Shooting your gun will not cause guards or civilians to raise the alarm unless they hear the gunshot or see you shot the gun. If you have a decent weapon that's either silenced or audio masked (or both!) and you quick draw on a target, there's a good chance you'll be able to kill them before anyone realise what happened. Even then, shooting an unsurpressed or unmasked weapon is not the end of the world, as long as you immediately vacate the area they will be none the wiser.
Can you pass out marines/guards by the overload tool with single try and avoid alarm?
Yes if they don't have their shields up and you're not seen - the energylink overload attack does make sound though, so it can be heard within the red circle range (maybe less). But remember, this a kill, you don't "knock them out".
@@StealthBoyElitegot it, thank you!
Is this currently up to date?
Possibly not, this was released in the first month of the expansion and quite a bit has changed since.
where/how did you get that night vision on the suit
I bought a "pre-upgraded" or "premium" suit which already had it installed.
More information here: forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/odyssey-premium-weapon-and-suit-stock.578428/page-3#post-9221521
And this is my thread where we're sharing these finds with others:
forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-great-pre-upgraded-gear-sharing-is-caring-thread.576352/
Npcs hearing you in zero atmosphere environments shouldn’t reasonably be a thing
Sound in space is a thing in Elite dangerous though. It's been that way since it launched.
I guess i am to old, or to stupid for this. Every time i am trying to do this (to unlock Terra Velasquez) i get killed. EVERY TIME !
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There's no way that people are actually saying that the stealth on this game is good, it needs a polish.
stelth take down missing from the game!!
Flash light? Odd accent you have for an American 🤣
That's what I believe it's called in the game, mate! Don't blame me! :D
No. Stealth is so broken in this game
well done