Combat Stealth Basic Training - Elite Dangerous Odyssey
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Learn to eliminate Scavengers safely and with the lowest risk, prevent them from swarming your location and kill them with just one shot in this guide. Everything you need to know about how to use Combat Stealth without advanced equipment in Elite Dangerous Odyssey.
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Thanks so much to The Buur Pit, who featured my guides on their channel this week. If you don’t know about The Buur Pit, it has long been a favourite channel of mine and they deliver frequent and factual updates on all things relating to Elite Dangerous in a balanced way that I think is absolutely spot on. Please do pay them a visit and subscribe to their excellent channel using this link:
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:41 The Challenge of Combat in Odyssey
1:31 The Topics Covered in this Guide
1:48 Part 1: What gear do you need?
3:24 Part 1a: Getting the mission
4:10 Part 2: How to approach your target
4:48 Part 3: The Strategy of Combat Stealth
8:53 Part 4: Wrapping up
9:46 Conclusion - Ігри
Your steady pace of explaining and demonstrating is what has helped me most… I was rushing around, getting ‘dead’ often…
The slower pace, and thoughtful planning you have shared in your videos has helped me much.
Thank you 👍😃
Also, when you show the ‘failures’, or things that don’t go quite right - your explanation and demonstration of what you do in these cases is super enlightening !
Having a few options of how to do things AND what can be done when it goes wrong … this is gold 💛
Thanks for the kind words! I definitely plan to show lots of things going well and badly in future!
Just want to say thanks for these tutorials, cleared 3 settlements of 27 baddies last night and I wasn't seen once. Thanks to the tips in these tutorials stealth is now my main activity. Cheers
Im not sure its my kind of thing, but in case I ever bother to try getting out of my space ship I will have learnt something from your excellent video, thanks.
Tried these tips on an eliminate scavengers mission last night. It was a lot of fun, although I think I parked my SRV a little too far away. Part way through I started feeling a little panicked that I was going to run out of batteries, but that was all in my head: I didn't run out, and ofc I could have just run back to my SRV to restock. I guess I just needed to worry about *something*.
I think the most fun might have been after I cleared out all the scavs: bopping back to the SRV to switch to a Maverick loadout, and then working my way through the settlement at a leisurely pace to snag as much loot as possible. All told it was the most fun I've had in Odyssey so far and I look forward to trying it again. Thanks!
As a pre-release E:D 2014 & pre-order Horizons player, I've had no interest in Odyssey. In fact, I've not even bought it yet. Buur brought me here and your last 2 excellent vids have piqued my interest. Thanks CMDR SB and O7.
Odyssey is great! Don't be put off.
@@owlangel7234 Yeah, honestly, even with all the bugs and performance issues, it's been great to come back to the game with new stuff to do. They still have a lot of work ahead of them, but I've had so much fun with settlements, both combat and heist stuff. It's sad how only the negative side is so prominent, without the positives.
@@ambientimpact Yes, I try to leave positive comments on the forums but they vanish under the waves of negativity!
@@owlangel7234 That's been my experience too, sadly, and same for r/EliteDangerous which actually seemed to be pretty nice until Odyssey launched. I used to have so many positive experiences on that subreddit and enjoyed answering stuff in the daily Q and A threads, but even those aren't free of the firehose of negativity anymore, so I'm barely on there lately for my mental health. I have to wonder how many awesome people have been driven from the community by all this. That's the saddest part for me.
Great vid. Sometimes, I rain dumbfire missiles down from my ship onto the scavs. They hate that.
Keep up the good work ...Ps Burr sent me.
Welcome!
I've gotta say mate I really appreciate this and your content. It's also made me appreciate Odyssey a bit more too.. now if only i can have enough frames to play it!
Due to the content creator exodus there is a real lack of tutorial content for Odyssey, so thanks for these and I look for to more from this channel
The Buur Pit sent me here. Wonderful info. Will be watching the entire series. I keep failing the training mission so I needed the help. lol
Your videos have been exemplary! Thank you. My game has achieved next level!
Great video. Really, really helpful. You're quite good at this. Thank you.
I have had to rewatch this and your other videos so many times and have learnt so much
Great guide, simple to follow and understand, you've earned yourself a sub. Just did my first mission of this type and it was at night, not sure if this was a good or bad thing but it's easy to track the enemies as they'll have their torch on. I kept mine off which made it difficult to navigate around the settlement, so at times I had to quickly flick it on and off just to light up the immediate area and get my bearings, it was quite a large mining settlement which didn't help.
My tip (slightly risky): cause a distraction by firing off near some enemies, a good place is near an explosive barrel (the obligatory environmental hazard in FPS games) then relocate to a safe distance and when enemies investigate shoot the barrel or throw a shield disruptor quickly followed with a frag grenade. If you're lucky enough you can take out multiple targets.
Thank you, you make the best tutorials I have found.
Awsome work. I finaly managed to do covert missions thanks to you and its fun as hell hehe. Thx and o7.
Great video. Learned a lot. Thx!
Great tutorial again, thank you for sharing Cmdr.
Yess another video thank you so much for the amazing content
Can't tell you how helpful your videos are. No wonder cmdr Buur is recommending your videos.
I've been watching Elite Dangerous guides for several hours now and so far your stealth guides are the best I've seen, hands down. I'm honestly shocked that after 2 years this video doesn't even have 750 views. I'm definitely going to be spreading this around to my fellow squadron members.
Love it and many thanks for your hard work
Awesome work as always! It's also fun to shoot exploding barrels from a distance to act as a distraction and/or gather the targets.
Very high quality content thanks.
Fantastic guide !! I bet many players arent aware of how developed an intricate this aspect of the game is. Looks fun and challenging. Now only if we can get that fps up to make things smoother. ..
Yes! This needs to happen!
Thanks for the basic military training course. I am proud to say I graduated from your program and is in active stealthy combat. Success rate is almost 80%. As with your advise patient is virtue. Lack of those are the cause of my 20% failures.
My path usually raid the alarm and end with stealing power regulator 👍
Great tip about the weapon sway post sprinting… 👍🏻
Thanks...this looks fun. Great info
As someone who loves playing stealth but never knows how... I find your videos extremely helpful and honestly somewhat mesmerizing haha. Keep up the great work!
great video, thank you!!
Great work CMDR!
Love your stuff. I've been meaning to get into the FPS side of the game and this is my PVP playstyle in other titles... thanks for making such a concise and excellent guide to stealth!
You are making me love even more the Odyssey :) I love your stealth videos and guides. This game has so much to offer and I will definitely redo more stealthy now. I used to use AR-50 and Zenith, I will give Executioner a try for sure. Mine is G5 and I am in process of engineering it after I unlock the required ones for audio masking. I always jump on buildings and wait, but sometimes forgot the radar circles.
I always wanted to do assasinatinons on foot, but legal ones and you have one video showing, I will watch it again and try just like that.
love it great vid .it was the buur pit that said watch your vids going to binge watch them and learn o7 chap
THX for another instructive video. i came here because o fthe burr pit but elite week also gave you a shoutout!
you got a lot of (deserved) attention
Yes! I was thinking about that last night and I'm going to shout out for them as well, and I haven't forgotten them. Thanks!
TIP: After you have killed a Scavenger...scan their body.
Just killing a NPC with a bounty only grants you a handfull of credits.
'Confirming' the kill with a scan rewards you a lot more.
"You killed a bounty? thanks for the effort"..."Oh his bounty was how much?...here is the bounty reward on top of that"
Great tip for those who are looking for credits. I tend to leave it most of the time but it's useful for everyone to know thanks!
@@StealthBoyElite That's because your minted! 😉
@@owlangel7234 lol yes that helps. It's definitely worth doing if you're new. Although if someone wants to make fast (er) credits in EDO then I suggest combat zones.
And yes I'll probably cover that one day.
I tried to do this on my run last night--not for the credits, what are those even for?--but just the RP. Unfortunately the base was so sprawling, and the night so utterly dark, that finding all of the scavenger corpses just wasn't happening. Scanned the ones I could find, though...
Great thanks for the guide, I'm starting to do on foot missions, I hope you do more videos, last one was a year ago sadly...
Your videos are fantastic
Awesome stuff but you forgot point FIVE! Which is disembark with your SRV circle the settlement with night vision while you target lock and blast em with the twin rapid fire lasers retreating when shields get low then recharge and repeat!
Best Foot Combat Guide. Thank you! o7
Great video, viewers may have noticed that you keep your shields OFF during the stealth part of the mission: this is very important otherwise you'll end up having to look for energy cells. Don't forget to turn shields ON when your under fire.
Great tip! In the mission I used just one energy cell and raised my shields maybe twice. So, there's flexibility there for commanders who want to take their time.
heh, reminds me when i forgot to turn off the shield and running 500m away from the base to call taxi, and another 500m to get to that taxi.. and ended with no power and O2 left..
I also like doing the following:
1 - In my DBS using Dumbfire Missles to soften up the target (4 hardpoints, all independent of each other)
2 - Circle and attack the perimeter in my Scorpion SRV
3 - Go into the buildings and kill everyone (I might switch back and forth btn Maverick + Dominator suits from the SRV)
nice work
Good stuff!
Thanks for this. I was pointed to you by Buur discord and you tube. This is very helpful as I am rubbish and stealth and am learning patience…like yourself and a little green Jedi also recommend.
Remain hidden, you will.
Hi. Just watched your stealth videos after Mr Buurs recommendation. Excellent guides. Clear and extremely well presented information. Will you be doing engineering guides for stealth? Noise suppression etc. Keep up good work. Thank you.
Thank you! I'll be doing stealth guides with engineered items yes!
This was pretty excellent, and mirrored my learning experience in Odyssey. I've played a bunch of FPS games for years, so thinking tactically and defensively really made a difference. I noticed when I talked to people who were getting frustrated by this aspect of Odyssey that they didn't seem to have that previous experience, and what felt to me exhilarating to be forced to adapt like that was to them they a brick wall that they hit. I guess the self preservation and tactical stuff hadn't been driven into them by years of asymmetric FPS games like it had for me.
Years of FPS games experience definitely helps! I actually think there's probably scope for some more dialed back FPS beginners guides to help players understand some of the things we take for granted.
@@StealthBoyElite Agreed. I hope that they add more on foot tutorials for just that, like how they revamped the ship ones...was that last year or 2019?
Thank you again for a great guide. o7 cmdr!
-CMDR Bommy
Thank you. For me what works is using a "bait" method with Manticore Intimidator (Shotgun) - just (with a Maverick suit) I'll open some doors, overload them, it doesn't really matter which, just be sure there are a lot of plases to cover. Then I'll shot anyone from that door, they are trying to swarm me, but I have a shotgun and only one acces way to me -- so just kill them all in that door, basicaly. With Intimidator, it's a matter of 2--3 shots (with shields, one without). Ideally use a building with a "ammo crate" next to the door somewhere, then you'll be basically a Lord of Death :-D
This is actually some good advice for when you're leaving a building when scavengers arrive midway through the mission and they're camped outside. I'll definitely cover this at some point because it can give new players trouble. It's not strictly stealth killing but at some point I will be covering other methods of combat anyway. Thanks!
@@StealthBoyElite Thank you :-) Your tutorials really helped me a lot when I was new player, I don't have many expierences with FPS shooters, so I was really glad someone covered the basics for me :-) I still can't do settlement raids "safely," I mean I can do that, but somethimes they kill me. But other kind of missions I am now okay, I just don't like open spaces (like near the crashed ship), preffer the settlement buildings. So I worked that to my advantage, that's all.
Thank you again, your content is great!
@@StealthBoyElite Or you could just “dumb fire” missile the scavs from the air by flying above the base. That works as well, although NOT stealthy by any stretch of the imagination.
@@cmdrbravo2zero726 we definitely won't be highlighting this here :D but knowledge is power!
Great guide mate. One Question: After you’ve killed them all and you start looting, how long is it before more Scavs arrive?
Excellent guide, aided me greatly in my first exterminate scavengers mission, only one managed to get a shot back 👍
Fantastic! I'm glad it helped. Stay stealthy.
I have a lazy alternative to this. Put a couple of dumbfire missile racks on your ship. Then fly low over the settlement. The scavengers should start firing at you. Then you can just fire missiles at them and the splash damage will take them out. If they put up their shields it makes them easier to spot.
good stuff.
Thanks again for your shout outs (really humbling words!) I'm adding a brief feature for your channel next video.
Also note that in high security military settlements, shooting unshielded guards in their "backpack" is not a one shot kill, even with grade 5 executioner. Aiming for the butt is safer :)
There's another way. Use the transfer tool in overload mode. As long as you're not seen, you won't alert npc's as the noise is silent.
Edit: If raiding settlements (as in just going from settlement to settlement and stealing materials), make sure to turn off the settlement alarms FIRST! Settlement alarms will more often than not be in the power or command building. They can be elsewhere (I raided an agricultural settlement and the settlement alarm was in one of the hydroponics buildings).
If I use the "quiter footsteps" mod on my suit, does it also remove/reduce the falling noise when I get down from high locations?
Excellent guides - I am working on something akin to fuel rats and hull seals called the foot clan. it involves providing foot soldiers for ground missions. many of the missions even though single person are much easier and faster to get through with a knowledgable assistant. please friend and contact Delta G
Burr Pit sent me here. :)
Quality stuff. With some luck, mr B will probably become overconfident and get himself dead and save me the trouble xD (for the record, this is a long running internal Bpit joke)
I am about to upgrade my Sniper to lvl 2. Did they change this method on the damage? This video still works if upgraded I use the upgraded level 2 does not oneshot them unless im doing something wrong?
Tnx for the video, an excellent guide, After you kill all those guards, can you get inside and loot everything? You never mention that
Yes, there's nothing stopping you doing that in any scenario. Bear in mind it's an inactive settlement so no power and many items will be taken already, so pickings are slim (you can turn power on if you have a power regulator and ebreach/access)
@@StealthBoyElite Tnx mate I haven't ventured into Odyssey just yet, looking to instruct myself before doing it and your videos are absolutely excellent as a guide, Thanks again
For combat missions do you usually land nearby and walk in? use the settlement landing pad? SRV?
I land at the pad in all cases except for the settlement massacre missions where they've been tipped off and so know you're coming. I'm going to do a guide specifically for those missions (footage is already recorded for it) because they're quite challenging to do sometimes.
I tried the same but after missing my kill they were alerted and I managed to escape. When I came back they're on high alert with red marks, how do I bring them down?
How about the flash light? Does that make enemy see me more than I don't?
If you turn on your flashlight behind an npc it'll alert them. I've not tested it but I'd not bet against it making you more visible at range. I just don't use it when sneaking, it's just asking to get seen.
stealth is good, but laser rifle (Aphelion?) + karma 15 pistol do well. Remove npc shield with rifle, then kill him with pistol. With dominator suit even better if you can use mashine gun with you or rockets. Ofc there is chance to swarmed by npc, but hit and run works. Newer got patience to be stealthy ;)
How do you find treat level one and two missions? Most of the ones I see are threat level 4, which I just get slaughtered
change system, for me as starting system LLT 1349 was ok with lv3
Fascinating, still doesn't answer the question what to do when scavs drop at my abandoned base in a group right on top of me. It is rather aggravating that despite seeing an imperial cutter scavs still decide it's worth trying. And I suppose one can always say I should have brought a friend.
It's gotten much more difficult since this video was released. There are some good tricks though. If they attack, dismiss your ship (they'll just attack it otherwise) and use the interior of a building for cover, preferably one with ammo and power.
They never enter buildings. You can take cover and whittle them down slowly that way. It's not perfect, but it's something.
If there's another exit, you can also use that and just run off. Worst case, just exit the game and try again (though that will mess up the progress of the mission you're doing).
This video is a year old now - have the stealth mechanics changed at all? Is all the advice given in this video still valid?
Besides needing to land your ship out of sight of scavengers, it's functionally the same. At some point I'll create an updated combat stealth guide that includes strategies for settlement approach.
Great, but if someone finds a body, the alarms go off and the skimmers come out to find me and shoot me up. Then I have to run away and hide and wait for the alarms to stop. Rinse and repeat, but it takes years to complete a mission.
My first raid had 22 enemies...
I got so sick of the skimmers, I killed them with my SRV. The base alarms stayed red as long as I sat outside in the SRV, but when I went on foot again, they reset. Then I snuck back and sniped a few more. Then they saw me from right across the map at night, with their eagle eyesight, and sniped me back. I got 4 out of 22 - pretty similar to most of my attempts.
You're describing a different scenario which is an occupied settlement. I'm going to try to cover this too.
But the first priority is to disable those alarms, then you'll never get attacked by the whole settlement.
@@StealthBoyElite oh I see. Since it was a raid of some pirates "occupying a base" I thought they would shoot anyone they saw - ie. I'd never make it to the alarm switch. But that assumption was probably wrong.
Here to L2sneak burr sent me
Welcome!
I'm shooting with my AR 50 half a magazine in the sky, then they come and I kill em with 2 shots with the Tormentor. It's a joke atm. Way too easy. Edit: that's possible at G4/5 Tormentor.
It's felt over the last year like most of the whining was from players expecting to just run in and faceroll the AI like COD or DOOM. Nobody's used to an FPS where you're not a god by default.
Most of the "planets" we land on atm are moons and don't have atmosphere, so how is there sound to alert enemies?
It's the same as how we hear sounds in space in our ships: it's explained as our computers relaying a simulation of sound. The actual reason is because in early development, Frontier tried out a version of the game with no sound in space and found it to be nowhere near as fun (and I agree with that). This video explains it briefly: ua-cam.com/video/GiAcsrmyePs/v-deo.html (time stamped right to the question)
There are better explainations from devs I just couldn't find them right now. Bottom line is: combat is better with sound. Sound cannot exist in a vacuum. Elite simulates sound for you so it's fun. And that's how we hear gun shots in airless or tenuous atmospheres in Odyssey.
@@StealthBoyElite consider it as same kind of system than some combat vechiles has which tells distance and direction of shot based on different things as flash and sound etc.
completely irrelevant guide. NPCs dont play like this anymore
Sadly so, I'll be doing an updated version soon. The only practical difference is you cannot land nearby, though. So I'd argue the "completely irrelevant" part.
Trying hard to not let the lisp out, eh?