They should add the VK 36.01(H) to fill the gap between the Panzer III M and Tiger H1. It had a functional hull built and and some incomplete turrets built. Edit: I've made a mistake saying there are several functional hulls built however there's only one functional hull built so that's a mistake on my part. Also that didn't stop Gaijin adding the E-100 to the game even though it never received any turret
Couldn't agree more although I'm not sure how well its Squeeze bore gun will perform given it fires APCR. Will be cool either way. According to Hilary Doyle only one hull was ever actually drivable. It's a shame they didn't even try to fit the turret and gun to the complete hull
Shoulda put in a meme at the end: *show Panther II* "This thing does not exist." *show Coelian* "This thing does not exist." *Refuse to elaborate further* *end video*
may be a little bit ahead of time, their visions of what their machince want to be is just a little bit further than what they actually capable of making, just imagine the tigers, panther and king tigers can actually do if they do not have tecnical problem, or atleast minimal technical problem@@KedrChadEater
@@KedrChadEateryea but the over engineering caused huge transmission and engine issues and in most actual tank battles they were severely out classed especially against the sherman m4a3 e2 a tank that bounced shells from the tigers 88 and equipped with its 76mm cannon a gun that was known to pen even a panthers frontal armor it just wasn't worth the cost given the m4a3e2 was almost half the price
I hope there will be an Event were we get the Chance to research the Coelian and Panther II aswell as the Tiger II 10,5.... these ones i sadly mist and i want them real bad, even tho they never "existed"
@@noelblack8159over half the tank existed and stuff like the Ho-Ri is in game, why can't the Coelien be too? Tiger 105 is a myth tho and Panther II could come back with something more plausible.
Cant believe you forgot the Panther 2. I guess my favorite way of using the Panther series is just being able to use it. when its not nerfed to being useless. Even with a maxed out crew aka Aced & the modules are worthless/nerfed to being non existant.
because it literally did have a much more powerful engine. Gaijin decided to nerf it for "reasons" because there was a limiter put on the engine to increase it's overall lifespan and prevent overheating. However this is a very stupid reason for the nerf as this was the diffrence between the Ausf A and G in warthunder. (Ausf G has the same engine as the Ausf A but with a limiter on it for the above aformentioned reasons while the Ausf A is without the limiter)
Of note that was left out was that the mantlet on the VK 3002 is also weaker than on the other panther versions. Narrator also got the "chin" armor on the panther G wrong. The "chin" upgrade wasn't to decrease the pen chance to the turret, it was to eliminate a shot trap that the previous mantlet had. (rounds had a chance to bounce downwards into the turret if they impacted the bottompart of the previous mantlets slope, so mostly wrong paired with bad phrasing)
Hey Gaijin, how about making the engine governor a researchable part for Panther A/G/F instead of just downgrading the engine as a whole?I wanna be able to use the full 700 metric horsepower of that HL 230.I'm all for moving Panther A and G to 6.0 as long as they're able to utilise the full power of their engine like Tigers.
Thing is, the govenors were factory issue to the engines, it was meant to increase the life time, reliability of the engine and decrease fuel consumption, all in all it look good on paper to have those, but it in WT it would be great for most if not all situations to have the that few more horsepower, as you don't really have to worry about either of the 3 points above, besides all of them are fine in their own BRs, Panther A isn't really fastest or the most responsive medium anyways, that and it would utterly dismantle German 5.7 lineup, something which is not really worth it in the long run
The only real option for a faster Panther would require Gaijin to fix the engine in the Ausf D. Based on the very poor 3d model its a post June rebuild vehicle for the Battle of Kursk at least so it should have an ungovered 700hp HL230 P30 instead of the 650hp HL 210 P30
Revise the volumetric mechanic or push the Panther at 6.0. Its mantlet was a reliable weakspot, but now it's almost impervious to both the US 76 mm and the soviet 85 mm.
sooo we are just supposed to ignore the Panther 2 and Flakpanther 341, hmm strange its almost like they where removed for a dumb reason and new players cant experience these tanks dispide WT knowing everyone wants them, not to mention a lot of more fake tanks and planes exsist in game
Panther solo's tigers It has great gun and very good armor.I love this tank.If panthers would have a better engine that wouldn't break down in the middle of combat Panther would be a perfect ww2 tank
Panther experience: -Flanked by an M18 or shot by a bushed up M18 from a different zip code -one shot by a t-34 100 or an IS-2 at the beginning of a match -CAS, thats all i have to say -that one game where you are an entire panzer division in one tank -Volumetric bull where your 75 cant pen a russian tank basically flat on -or your shot just doesnt do anything cause of Russian fuel tanks as armor, and no it doesnt catch fire -ghostshelled...
Hey, about the new premium tornado, you need to add at least guided bombs or something. I can barely play this thing as a CAS aircraft. I think if you make it so you have to attach a laser designator pod where the drop tanks goes that it would be fine. Players would have to make a choice between more fuel or guided bombs.
@@CCP-Dissident this has nothing to do with the quality of the armor, I'm not speaking of cracks in the armor or its weakness, but rather about the fact that some things in the game are simply not accurate
Since we are talking about Panthers it only make sense for me to remind those who don't know, Panthers are NOT the same thing as PANZERS. The term "Panzer" is "tank" in German.
Wenn ich Panther spiele dann geh ich meistens in die Dörfer und fahre meist nur vorwärts und lasse die Panzerung und die Überraschung wirken Min 3 kills pro Panther
I’m almost to the panthers and getting excited! Also I can’t find a suitable tank to replace my Sdkfz 231 puma tank because I have tailes men on it and I’m trying to decide if I get the panzer III at 3.7 br and Panzer IV G
Would be great to have the Panther added to the British Tech Tree with a Pather called Cuckoo which was used by the 4th Coldstreams Guards Armoured Battalion in Holland.
My favorite way to use panther is snipe target destroy relocated find enemy at close distance shoot the barrel and play with him and then shoot target destroy
Give the m1a1 abrams and aim their proper armor im goings insane because i cant even pen a t80. Oh and please fix the problem with ai make it to where they can cross the bridges. And heres a idea make it for custom games only so you can pick wich tanks you will fight from other countrys and br. Like for say i want to fight 30 bmps and not any t80s that day i could.
As a USSR main nothing annoys me more than panthers. My only strategy against them is circle around them with my su-100p or m53 and shoot them from the back or the sides. It works half the time
The turret is a reliable spot to shoot in my experience, never aim for the hull unless its side-on. Protection analysis really helps in situations like these.
I have it, it used to be at 5.7. It dominated at that tier as it had a better turret traverse than it's Ausf D cousin also at 5.7. Then in their infinite wisdom gaijin decided to up tier it to 6.0, where it now gets penned by everything.
My grandpa was in the war he said those panthers would hide in abandoned small towns and would drive out swing the turret and destroy a sherman and the panther would reverse quickly back in hiding spot and the convoy wouldn’t know where the panther is.
My favourite way is use a phanter in a battle is the flanking or the front battle(but not in the middle of hell just a person sorry😅 just a very heavy person in the battle 4 kill righit enough)❤
can we get a special event decal for the old german that kept a panther in his basement?
"Basement guy goals" 😂
What a legend
Bro was waiting for the 4th Reich
He had an 88mm Flak in there too
You mean the heikendorf panther? Hell yeah
Imagine leaving out the Panther 2. Even if its not in the tech tree it would be honorable to mention it...
I agree. Was totally expecting the panther 2 at the end
wouldnt be fair too players who cant get it :).
@@djantraxx86 The Russian Panther isn't available for most players either
@@djantraxx86 *Cough* Erzats M10 *cough*
@@Germanempireaboolilel yeah true true.
They should add the VK 36.01(H) to fill the gap between the Panzer III M and Tiger H1. It had a functional hull built and and some incomplete turrets built. Edit: I've made a mistake saying there are several functional hulls built however there's only one functional hull built so that's a mistake on my part. Also that didn't stop Gaijin adding the E-100 to the game even though it never received any turret
german have so many vk's
Vk 30.01p vk30.01h vk 30.01D vk30.02D vk36.01h vk28.01 vk16.01 Vk100.01P vk72.01k or other else
Couldn't agree more although I'm not sure how well its Squeeze bore gun will perform given it fires APCR. Will be cool either way.
According to Hilary Doyle only one hull was ever actually drivable. It's a shame they didn't even try to fit the turret and gun to the complete hull
They really just are trying to get rid of the panther 2 and flakpanzer 341
Real OGs call it the coelian
Shoulda put in a meme at the end:
*show Panther II*
"This thing does not exist."
*show Coelian*
"This thing does not exist."
*Refuse to elaborate further*
*end video*
There are two more missing from the list, the Panther ll and Coleian. Please bring them back Gaijin, we miss them.
i mean you can still play the panther 2 in the tutorial
Panther 2 was not real, coellian can have a pass tho bc it was prototyped
@@Trashpanda115 and so are a lot of russian tanks but they havent removed any of those
@@Inky_wtshhhh gaijin is gonna chat ban you run
@@Trashpanda115 *M1 KVT sweating in the corner*
always loved how the panther looks, even though sherman and t 34 have their own quirks, panthers kinda have that modern look
Yeah compared to all nations Germany definitely had one of the most modernized designs, they were ahead of the times technologically
may be a little bit ahead of time, their visions of what their machince want to be is just a little bit further than what they actually capable of making, just imagine the tigers, panther and king tigers can actually do if they do not have tecnical problem, or atleast minimal technical problem@@KedrChadEater
@@KedrChadEateryea but the over engineering caused huge transmission and engine issues and in most actual tank battles they were severely out classed especially against the sherman m4a3 e2 a tank that bounced shells from the tigers 88 and equipped with its 76mm cannon a gun that was known to pen even a panthers frontal armor it just wasn't worth the cost given the m4a3e2 was almost half the price
I love the Panther D.
Yes its nearly a tank destroyer but still in 5.3 its a beast.
My favorite panther among them all is the Panther II ❤️
My favourite tactic is dying to a heat shell.
i just trained the crew of the VK 3002 like 5 hours ago and played 2 matches and i can say its pretty much the coolest before the Stug 3 G
Cool vehicles, sad that they're the only ones you fight at 5.7-6.7
5,7-6,0*
@@RacerA8he's not wrong though, Panther 2 is at 6.7, beautiful tank with a long 88 and an actual reverse gear
@@flippy4703back when low tier night battles were a thing , it was a blast to play at night
@@invictusmaneo4587 still the last panther you can get is at 6,0
@@flippy4703 panther II was removed
I hope there will be an Event were we get the Chance to research the Coelian and Panther II aswell as the Tiger II 10,5.... these ones i sadly mist and i want them real bad, even tho they never "existed"
3:47 bro got sent back to the lobby
Give PANTHER AA back to us ffs! There was one built not just blueprints.
Kinda wrong, it was a mock-up turret on a real hull, so uh…
Kinda not build, kinda build?
@@noelblack8159it more realistic than the ostawind 2 turret.
@@noelblack8159over half the tank existed and stuff like the Ho-Ri is in game, why can't the Coelien be too?
Tiger 105 is a myth tho and Panther II could come back with something more plausible.
@@kennedytheretard975 Meanwhile russia has 60% of imaginary bias but no one else does.
@@noelblack8159 more realistic than ostwind 2
Cant believe you forgot the Panther 2. I guess my favorite way of using the Panther series is just being able to use it. when its not nerfed to being useless. Even with a maxed out crew aka Aced & the modules are worthless/nerfed to being non existant.
Anyone remember when the Panther A had a much more powerful engine for some reason? It was so fun back then, now its just another panther.
because it literally did have a much more powerful engine. Gaijin decided to nerf it for "reasons" because there was a limiter put on the engine to increase it's overall lifespan and prevent overheating. However this is a very stupid reason for the nerf as this was the diffrence between the Ausf A and G in warthunder. (Ausf G has the same engine as the Ausf A but with a limiter on it for the above aformentioned reasons while the Ausf A is without the limiter)
Panther II in Gaijins basement: Release Me! RELEASE ME!!
My favorite way is ambushing and blitzkrieg in assault lines
Q: When will we get bombercockpits? "placeholders" are there for years!
we want realistic cockpits for bombers too.
Not worth tbh
Where Panther II ?
Yes I know it's been retired but it's still in the game.
Honorable mention of Panther 2.
Panther II: am I a joke for you ?
To be fair the Panther II which we have in War Thunder actually does seem like a joke compared to what the actual Panther II was supposed to be like.
Panther D, a most dangerous predator in BR 5.3... >:D
"Impervious" to american 76mm and 90mm shells as the Panther? Did you forget the turret armor?
The 90mm gun on the pershing could pen the panther's hull irl -_-
Now we just need the Panther's Hungarian cousin, the 44M Tas... or at least a Hungarian Panther for the Hungarian subtree!
Hungary didn't use panthers. It's the reason why Tas exists lol
I love the panthers , my tactic is just be quite far away with the front towards the enemy.
Just like using claymore!!
"Front Towards Enemy!"
Where Panther II and Coelian?
I'm getting warthunder back because it seems like yall are putting in work to make it fun don't disappoint me plz
Of note that was left out was that the mantlet on the VK 3002 is also weaker than on the other panther versions.
Narrator also got the "chin" armor on the panther G wrong. The "chin" upgrade wasn't to decrease the pen chance to the turret, it was to eliminate a shot trap that the previous mantlet had. (rounds had a chance to bounce downwards into the turret if they impacted the bottompart of the previous mantlets slope, so mostly wrong paired with bad phrasing)
Panther II that got deleted be like:💀
Hey Gaijin, how about making the engine governor a researchable part for Panther A/G/F instead of just downgrading the engine as a whole?I wanna be able to use the full 700 metric horsepower of that HL 230.I'm all for moving Panther A and G to 6.0 as long as they're able to utilise the full power of their engine like Tigers.
Thing is, the govenors were factory issue to the engines, it was meant to increase the life time, reliability of the engine and decrease fuel consumption, all in all it look good on paper to have those, but it in WT it would be great for most if not all situations to have the that few more horsepower, as you don't really have to worry about either of the 3 points above, besides all of them are fine in their own BRs, Panther A isn't really fastest or the most responsive medium anyways, that and it would utterly dismantle German 5.7 lineup, something which is not really worth it in the long run
The only real option for a faster Panther would require Gaijin to fix the engine in the Ausf D. Based on the very poor 3d model its a post June rebuild vehicle for the Battle of Kursk at least so it should have an ungovered 700hp HL230 P30 instead of the 650hp HL 210 P30
German Mains taking notes in the back:
Revise the volumetric mechanic or push the Panther at 6.0. Its mantlet was a reliable weakspot, but now it's almost impervious to both the US 76 mm and the soviet 85 mm.
Mental note: 0 reverse speed across all panthers. Except the Panther 2.
jagpanther was my favourite tank in that BR he is absolutely good
You forget to talk about panther 2
Any chance we can get more tanks from the VK line? There are plenty of them, and some unique ones too
I would like to see its grandchild in the game. That would be so cool. (KF 51)
i love to use those as food for my hungry is2
ADD PANTHER II and TIGER 105mm AS EVENT VECHICLE LIKE MOUSE
Give us back the Panther II.
sooo we are just supposed to ignore the Panther 2 and Flakpanther 341, hmm strange its almost like they where removed for a dumb reason and new players cant experience these tanks dispide WT knowing everyone wants them, not to mention a lot of more fake tanks and planes exsist in game
Panther solo's tigers It has great gun and very good armor.I love this tank.If panthers would have a better engine that wouldn't break down in the middle of combat Panther would be a perfect ww2 tank
Panther is one of the most enjoyable tank for me.
6:25, i think everyones favourite tactic in a panther is W key and Mouse 1
This series is so well made thank you
CAN WE GET THE CAMO OF THE VIDEO PICTURE?
If only the American 90 mil had its AP round's historical penetration stats
No way a tank named after a domestic kitty kat??
Attack the D Point!
Never
THEY LEFT OUT PANTHER II!
It didn’t exist so maybe that’s why
@@SomuaSomua That's only half true
Panther experience:
-Flanked by an M18 or shot by a bushed up M18 from a different zip code
-one shot by a t-34 100 or an IS-2 at the beginning of a match
-CAS, thats all i have to say
-that one game where you are an entire panzer division in one tank
-Volumetric bull where your 75 cant pen a russian tank basically flat on
-or your shot just doesnt do anything cause of Russian fuel tanks as armor, and no it doesnt catch fire
-ghostshelled...
Schmalturm means "Slim Turret" BTW.
Hey Gaijin. Es heißt VK 30.02: 30 Tonnen Gewicht und die zweite Ausführung.😊
Hey, about the new premium tornado, you need to add at least guided bombs or something. I can barely play this thing as a CAS aircraft.
I think if you make it so you have to attach a laser designator pod where the drop tanks goes that it would be fine. Players would have to make a choice between more fuel or guided bombs.
1:37 the M36B2 would like a word
my favorite is panther II and old coelian with 64mm pen ammo but you even not mention it once
American 90mm rounds bounce off of panthers front hull armor only in wt,
I saw quite some pictures where they cut right through.
War thunder doesn't count the quality of armor, it's also why you see panthers somehow ricochet t-34-85 turret cheeks
@@CCP-Dissident this has nothing to do with the quality of the armor, I'm not speaking of cracks in the armor or its weakness, but rather about the fact that some things in the game are simply not accurate
@@vanja2565 to be honest, sloped armor in this game are absurdly strong
Best Panther is Panther II
Since we are talking about Panthers it only make sense for me to remind those who don't know, Panthers are NOT the same thing as PANZERS. The term "Panzer" is "tank" in German.
Gaijin pls, give us the Panther II back!
Love playing the panthers really good tanks great armor and fantastic firepower. Just a shame the reverse speed is straight poop though.
noticed they didn't mention the Panther ll
Wenn ich Panther spiele dann geh ich meistens in die Dörfer und fahre meist nur vorwärts und lasse die Panzerung und die Überraschung wirken
Min 3 kills pro Panther
add panther 2 back!!!!
Day 1 of asking the Begleitpanzer 57 to be moved up to 10.3 BR 🙏
Yessir
44m Tas when Gaijin???
I’m almost to the panthers and getting excited! Also I can’t find a suitable tank to replace my Sdkfz 231 puma tank because I have tailes men on it and I’m trying to decide if I get the panzer III at 3.7 br and Panzer IV G
Love my Panther II😊
Would be great to have the Panther added to the British Tech Tree with a Pather called Cuckoo which was used by the 4th Coldstreams Guards Armoured Battalion in Holland.
My favorite way to use panther is snipe target destroy relocated find enemy at close distance shoot the barrel and play with him and then shoot target destroy
I love the panther for its role to be a target for my Centurion mkII.
Lol I never see centurions in my panther a
@@typehyuga607 you don't want to see me
The first MBT AND MY FAFORITE😂❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!!
Give the m1a1 abrams and aim their proper armor im goings insane because i cant even pen a t80. Oh and please fix the problem with ai make it to where they can cross the bridges. And heres a idea make it for custom games only so you can pick wich tanks you will fight from other countrys and br. Like for say i want to fight 30 bmps and not any t80s that day i could.
Can yall model the m1a2 sep armor and NATO era right
As a USSR main nothing annoys me more than panthers. My only strategy against them is circle around them with my su-100p or m53 and shoot them from the back or the sides. It works half the time
The turret is a reliable spot to shoot in my experience, never aim for the hull unless its side-on. Protection analysis really helps in situations like these.
Correction, they're actually medium tanks, not cats.
No Panther II?
TFW Gaijin just denies existence of in-game Panther 2 tank that was made up by them.
I love to flank with my panthers because the were every time one shot
You guys forgot the black hole that is present in every panther mantlet
Cool. Hungarian Panther?
Will the M10 Panther ever make a return? I really want it.
I have it, it used to be at 5.7. It dominated at that tier as it had a better turret traverse than it's Ausf D cousin also at 5.7. Then in their infinite wisdom gaijin decided to up tier it to 6.0, where it now gets penned by everything.
My grandpa was in the war he said those panthers would hide in abandoned small towns and would drive out swing the turret and destroy a sherman and the panther would reverse quickly back in hiding spot and the convoy wouldn’t know where the panther is.
He was a Canadian soldier if your wondering
My favourite way is use a phanter in a battle is the flanking or the front battle(but not in the middle of hell just a person sorry😅 just a very heavy person in the battle 4 kill righit enough)❤
Necesito el Ersatz M10, habrá alguna forma de adquirirlo otra vez?
Could we get "cuckoo " the captured panther used by the british RTR as a premium or event vehicle.
i wish the m10 panther or the german sherman would come back soon. but the m10 is very unlikely
The Best tank you can drive in WW2. 😉
lol
Psst we have been through this to many times Roland .... You will trigger a lot of bs..
@@HaVoC117X How in the world you find me always? :D
@@HaVoC117X Ch*eck my* a*c ab*ut p*anel f*r c*ntact.
@@rolandhunterbecame a force habit
Congratulations gaijin you got 1.08m subscribers 🎉
17 pounder loves to shoot those panther turret checks (just not the first one I just shoot the centre)
The disrespect for the Panther 2 lmao
Do you guys at Gaijin think adding the m40/m43 hmc to the game would be possible? Sherman based 155mm/203mm howitzer carriers would be fun
Please give us the panther 2 and panther ersatz M10 and Tiger 2 10.5 cm kwk L/68
That cat's long-barrel 75mm is not your normal 75
are we getting 5 and 6th gen fighters? such as the Mig-31, F-18, Eurofighter, F-35, and/or Su-30?
So crazy I had a dream I was running away from a German tank, and then y'all post this today haha is it a sign to use german tanks haha
We would love to see german Panthers without side skirts 😭
Panthers really look like Tiger 2
id love the ersats m10