Hungarian Tanks: Big Ambitions
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Due to historic reasons, Hungarian vehicles of the WW2 era were never in the spotlight, always in the shadow of tanks produced by other nations, like the iconic German Panzer. To make the situation even more complicated, Hungary never shied away from using foreign designs. At the same time, though, the Hungarian defense industry was nothing short of impressive, even compared to other Axis states, which allowed the country to produce at least several interesting military vehicles.
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Please add more Hungarian tanks:
-44M Tas heavy tank - best Hungarian WW2 tank, very popular suggestion
-Straussler V-4 - fully Hungarian interwar light tank with 40 mm gun
-Toldi I/II - early Toldi with weak 20 mm autocannon
-Toldi IIAK/Toldi III - late Toldi with side skirts, much more armour, etc.
-Toldi Pancelvadasz - Toldi tank destroyer with 75 mm gun like a Marder III
-40M Nimrod - Hungarian SPAAG based on the L-62
-Toldi Buzoganyveto - Toldi with huge anti-tank rocket launchers
-D-944 PSZH (with Malyutka ATGMs) - Hungarian cold war armoured car with Malyutka ATGMs
im from hungary so i like this plan
I'm whit this too. I whud love to see more of our nations tanks in war thunder+ it whud make the italian tech tree somewhat better
Sure hoping for the rest of the indigenous (Toldi I, III, TD variant, maybe the Tas-44) and foreign built (maybe a T-34-85, T-54/55, BMP1, and ofc the Leo2A7HU) Hungarian vehicles to be added to the game in the future.
man we aint even got the 2A7 yet bruh
@@r.ndompersondehogy nem már 1 db meg is érkezett
@@Adamka663 úgy érti a játékban még nincsen Leo 2A7 csak A6
@@Adamka663 nem, még nem érkezett egy sem. Ami érkezett, az egy félkész teszt verzió a gyártás indulása előtti példány ami még nincs kész teljesen. Ezt átnézik a hadsereg szakértői, a leendő személyzet, majd vissza lesz szállitva németországba, és az esetleges módositásokkal együtt lesz befejezve, és ez alapján készülma többi. Állitólag decemberben érkezik az első három.
@@vorosjanos77 úgy tudom ami már a hidvetovel jött az nem referencia példány
Hungary still have a few variants for the existing ingame tanks, and some missing ones. The full list could be: Toldi I (had the same gun we have on Csaba), Toldi II with side armour, Toldi III (a bit differend armour shape, different turret), Toldi TD (Marder copy), Toldi with Buzogány rockets (only 1 photo exist about it), Nimród (AA vehicle, maybe a TD version with the rocket-like ammo). We already have all the Turan variants, but they could have a version without side armour (or it could be an upgrade like track links on other tanks). The original Zrínyi I didnt had the rocket launchers, this version could be added too. The ultimate WWII tank could be the 44M Tas, which had 2 variants (on paper), one with the same gun as Turán III and Zrínyi I, and a variant with 80 mm gun (modofied hungarian AA gun). Unfortunatelly the prototype of Tas wasnt finished, USA bombed the factory with the half-finished tank. They also had the Straussler V4 tank.
The Nimrod is technicaly already in the game as the Landsverk L-62, which is in the Swedish tech tree, so i don´t see why they couldn´t just copy and paste it.
Nem is értem miért egy olyan páncélautóval kezdődik a sub-tree, mint a Csaba, amiről semmit nem tudtam, amíg a játékba be nem került, pedig majdnem az összes harckocsinak utánna néztem, ami magyar
@@LastGoatKnight Pedig van olyan ikonikus a Csaba, mint a többi :D
@@chickenpie4402 pedig nem hallottam róla, a Toldik meg Zrínyik azok oké, de nem hallottam sem történelem órán (ahol igazából meglepne ha hallanék bármilyet) sem pedig amikor érdeklődtem. De attól még fennáll az amit írtam
@@LastGoatKnight Hát történelem órán valóban nem szoktak ezekről beszélni. Nálunk is azért volt csak róla szó mert annó általános suliba bevittem az 1:72 -es Toldi 1-es makettemet. De van jó pár videó itt fenn youtubon róluk, én annó még az Elfnet csatornán néztem róluk az első videókat
Question Gaijin: will the Churchill with the 290mm mortar be added to the game?
CHURCHILL AVRE
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I think we just found out what next years aniversary vehicle is gonna be.
Its actually 230mm
@@Hyper_1989 mb
@@Hyper_1989 but don’t you think it would be cool?
I love the Hungarian tech tree so far! I'm up to the ZSU-23-4 now, researching the T-72M1, and I even managed to have some fun with the BTR-80A once I spaded it. Combined with spading the Leopard 40/70 and M109G, the Italian tech tree has been really fun to play again. I appreciate every new vehicle we get, and I look forward to growing my collection even more.
I'd love to see more Hungarian vehicles like the Toldi I (20mm anti-tank gun, same as the Csaba), Toldi II (slightly improved, could be a premium), and Toldi III (40mm, improved armor), and definitely the Nimrod I (SPAA, similar to L-62 ANTI). Even more HPA vehicles would be fun to throw in, like the T-55 and 2S3, or even a T-34-85 and PT-76. Also can't wait until we eventually get a Leopard 2A7HU, their most modern vehicle.
Really hope an air tree is coming someday too, because I'd love to try out some of the more unique ones like the MiG-17PF. Maybe eventually a JAS 39?
i agree with you, as for Cold War era stuff, we also developed the PSZH D944 FUG (FUG - Felderítő Úszó Gépkocsi, it means amphibious reconnaissance vehicle) it was basically a Cold War successor of Csaba, armed with a 14.5 mm machine gun and it can also carry anti tank missiles
@@Marcell.98 I'm not sure how they could fit that in, sadly. A single 14.5mm would be very low-tier, perhaps even lower than the BTR-152 because it wouldn't have the elevation necessary for being SPAA. Add the missiles, and even Malyutkas would be mid-tier around 6.7. I guess it could be added there, like the Zachlam Tager.
The TURAN II was MASS produced (at least in Hungarian quantities) and Hungarian tanks were used from 1941 not ‘44
Exactly and also 39M Csaba was mass produced
A few corrections. The Csaba and Turán II WAS mass produced. Nearly 140 Csaba and near 200 Turán IIs were built. And the BTR-80 was not used until the 1990s. Also War Thunder should add the missing Hungarian vehicles. like 44M Tas, the Toldi I and III, and other listed by @victortruong6789 below.
A Hungarian tiger needs to be added as the Italian tech tree lacks heavy tanks
Well got added but premium
Q:You guys consider to add other T72 variants to different nations?
For example hungary does have a modified T72 called CURRUS. Hungarian ERA package,Thermal sights,and neutral steer. A lot of people made suggestions about the tank.
I've never heard of it before
Can you give us more information about it?
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Let me nitpick on the Leopard 2A4. The hungarian army didn't adopted it for general service (it received only 12), rather as training vehicles, because the army will adopt the 2A7 variant instead.
more precisely, the A7+HU variant.... which is the best of the L2A7 series with the L55A1 cannon. Many of the systems that were built in were already designed for the A8... (night vision, thermal imaging, reinforced upper armor, remote-controlled (also suitable for AA tasks) machine gun on top, trophyAPS armor, advanced IT system, backup generator)
as far as I know, the A4s will be sent back to the German factory and upgraded to the base A7 version (only L55 gun, without tropjyAPS), as the number of tanks has proven to be low. The A7+HUs were ordered even before the situation in Ukraine, and thus the number of units ordered is already small after the Russian aggression. The KMW gave such a deadline for further Leopards that now the Hungarian army is looking in other directions, Rheinmetall's KF51 was also discussed (but it is still under development, but with the expansion of the Hungarian Rheinmetall factory, they can even be produced in Hungary)
Correction: there's actually no Hungarian premiums available at the early ranks of the Italian ground tech tree.
Gaijin's management loves so much their fomo tactics that they locked all 3 hungarian premiums behind the Battle Pass and 2022's summer event, and you can't even buy them on the Marketplace.
Good job Gaijin
and even if they comeback in future 10 years they will be sold for 200€ packages
"Wahhhh, give me everything for free, bad dev wahhh"
@@whatdothlife4660
I didn't say I wanted them for free, I said they are not available anymore.
Gaijin needs to make money to keep going, but even there they seem to take the worst ways to do so. BP seasons could easily be always available to be bought, so one can either use the Marketplace to get one specific vehicle or just buy the entire season and grind it and his own pace. This way all seasons could always turn a profit, as new players would be able to buy even older ones at their own accord. Instead we get the usual period of time were you need to buy and grind the season like a madman, otherwise you'll miss it.
To me it just feels like a massive waste in every conceivable way, aside from trying to drive Marketplace prices as high as possible.
@whatdothlife4660 It's not even about getting stuff for free, not everyone has been playing this game long enough to get old event vehicles
@@whatdothlife4660i had to grind 3 hours just to get the soviet milk truck (forgot its name)
This game is for masochists, nobody with a life is grinding 2 years just to get as many vehicles as they can in the tech trees (they cant even complete tge tech tree because some tanks are premium only lol)
Still waiting for Nimród, Tas, Toldi páncélvadász, Toldi III, but most importantly the Hungarian aviation.
I cant understand why the Nimród hasnt been added yet.
a tas kell
The game still missing a lot of the hungarian tank tho.
Nice video, it would be interesting to see more hungarian vehicles added to BRs absent in Italy, like 40M Nimród, 44M Tas and others more
If ever you tought of adding more tanks please add the 40M Nimrod, a Hungarian spaa with a 40 mm gun
After learning that Hungary also had German heavy tanks, the slightest hope of having one in the tack tree increases
Q: will we be getting Hungarian aviation + will we be getting the 44M Tas and 40M Nimrod?
Is a little bit misleading to say that the Csaba didn't make it to mass production. Okay, okay... around a hundred was built, which is defenetly not a lot, but I still wouldn't say that.
Hungary also has a Leopard 2A7
Yes but the game is not ready for it.
3:30 that's me every morning
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Well we Hungarians were better in the agricultural sector than in the arms sector, altough it's worth two mention the Hungarian People's Army did have BMP-1s, T-55s, T-34s, even IS-2s also we also made our own APC as well the D-994 PSzH which was even exported, also the there are some sources claiming that the Rába Magyar Vagon- és Gépgyár did made the schematic of a new BTR-80 like APC/IFV called PSzH-2, there were actually 2 design variants, one with a BMP-1 turret and one with a BMP-3 turret. This could be an interesting premium or event vehicle in my oppinion.
Where polish tech tree?
:(
4 tanks
@@sasin2715 not enough, and there aren’t even four
@@oscarparandyk4843 Morons with no historical knowledge.
I’m a Hungarian, and when I decided I’ve had enough of America and Germany, I decided to grind Hungary. And oh man, I am NOT GOING BACK! I’m officially a Hungarian bias now
Fix the Zrinyi's unusable rockets please!
hat i can say is, Zrinyi II is Powerful as hell. I love this tank
now can we have the WAR armor kit on the Ariete fixed and the Ariete estimates seem kind of wrong especially comapred to something like the Leclerc S1 wich has the same exact dimensions but a heavy autoloader, the bigger engine and a bigger turret, even if they were made in the same years(so surely the materials are really similar) and the leclerc weighs just 700kg more than the Ariete the Leclerc has double the armor, it seems that you based the armor statistics to fit a certain Glass cannon type of tank but now that the Ariete doesn't have it's really good ammo it's just bad and left there to rot, hopefully you fix the tank with the other AMV prototipes the pt2 and pt3, still don't get how can Italy be treated so badly.
Please fix the arietes armor
Agreed; considering the Leclerc's armour has been shown to be incredibly underperforming in game anyways, the way the arietes is modelled is just hilarious levels of incompetence
Q. will you ever add Yugoslavia?
In the Hungarian tech tree it should be added also the T-55AM2.
Hungarian Army had many T-55AM2 Kladivo from Czechoslovakia and were based in Retság and would be amazing if in WT there will be a T-55AM2.
Hungarian tanks are good but they don't fix any of the italian tech tree issues. We still do not have a good 11.7 mbt or a good top br spaa.
Hungary has the Mistral UNIMOG, a truck with Mistral 3 SAMs, it could be a top tier SPAA for the Italian tree.
@@victortruong6789 yes but isn't here at the moment. The same argument can be made for the Leopard 2a8 or the Leopard 2 UH but those two mbt are still not here
Hungarian Leopard 2A7HU literally gives Italy the best top tier MBT
@@Player-st4hn more like on par on what germany have minus the lineup. Still 7 months ago, It wasn't there as the top of the hungarian line was the lynx wich Is still not a great veichle
Q : would you ever give the option to refund backups on tanks that we no longer play or rather to put it on a different tank. And idea would be to let us remove backups for 1000sl
Would be nice to also have Romanian vehicles in the TT as well as more Hungarian stuff.
Absolutely, Romanians have some very interesting home produced vehicles.
im happy but also sad and upset about the hungarian line in italy TT
1st its just a filler for italy and the 2 nation barely had any connection
2nd hungary only was added to italy for the leopard 2 and lynx, thats why there are loads of vehicles used by hungary missing from TT (but i dont wanna see more soviet stuff in western nations, it ruin SB even more)
3rd the hun subtree misses loads of vehicles, mainly the light tanks like Straussler v-3 and v-5, the toldi series, TT miss the hungarian "panther" the 44M Tas and soviet made t-55, 2s3, strela-10, pt-76, bmp-1 and brdm-2 with atgm and AA guns (but again i dont wanna see more soviet stuff in western TTs)
Queastion, Gaijin, is there any chance of a proper Hungarian hangar? I know the prototype vehicles was not that much welcomed, but there are many good prototype hungarian vehicle, tanks and planes mainly, for example the Ezüstnyíl was a 1prop lowwing fighter that only one, i have a small list o known vehicles, and a counter cuz i didnt found all of them yet.
I hope Poland comes to the game with it’s own tech tree
Bro, Poland, Spain and Yugoslavia could be much better than China. I know a bit about poland aircraft and i count around 40 aircraft just in the ww2 era wirhout mentioning the Spitfires, then there is the Lim 1 Lim 2 Lim 5 and Lim 6, and more. About Spain, another 50 aircraft, including modified airlines as bombers but not counting copypaste such as the Phantom or the Starfighter
Lynx is not only purchased by Hungary but manufactured as well.
I'm up to the Soviet era and the WW2 vehicles are a joy to play I never enjoyed playing tanks this much since the Swedish tree was released. Since you mentioned the Skoda T-21 and other Czech vehicles I hope one day to see there tech tree added.
Question Gaijin: When will you add the Tas 44m? I think it would be a nice tank after the Turan III...
Magyarként megtisztelő..
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I love the addition of Hungary, but I'd like to see Italy receive more to fill their tanks since there's SO MUCH MORE TO ADD, a lot has been already proposed but it's been YEARS since the devs even took a look at the forums
Also please, just add a semblance of armor to th Ariete, it's supposed to have the same armor protection as a Leopard 2A4 or A5, everyone and their mother knows that, the Ariete AMV is a completely useless addition as well that doesn't even exist, so far the prototypes for the C2 Ariete is all we have and it's 60% different from the normal C1, NOT JUST AN ENGINE UPGRADE (and it'll have APS, as seen by tests)
Q: nimrod when?
I haven't played with Hungarian vehicles very much, but of those, the Turan II is my favorite so far. I've had a lot of fun with that tank and even in an uptier, I've had some really good matches with it.
I think you guys should have done a separate tech tree and in it have Austria, Hungary and Romanian vechles.
Hungarian aviation when?
where tf is Nimord series and other Tolids gaijin?
hey, gaijin! how’s the basement guy? ehe, weell ive got a problem with the game, when you test fly most low br planes, one of the aircraft carriers just does not work, thanks!😊
PLSS ADD THE YUGOSLAVIAN TECH TREE!!!!!!
we already have a soviet tech tree
Why there is no t59 in the tech tree my grandfater use to tell me stories about the he was an enginier who built them and it wuold perfectly fit in the technik tree and a lot of ww2 plane is missing too like the hungarian ju 188
Can we get an austrian sub focus tree in the german tech tree? An ADGZ would be sick in war thunder
Cool, now make the KF41 not a useless pile of garbage
Cant belive Czechoslovakia and Škoda got metion by War Thunder
Add spike to the puma
The KF1 is a Puma with Spike as you can see, enjoy hungarian sub TT!
@@the5000cc Nah thanks i rather play germany or sweden ther just better in any way aganst italy , the kf41 and freccia are the only things that make italy "Good " , thanks to germany hungary was the first nation to get an worse puma with rokets that can not even kill an tank that 500m away .
Q: will there be for PVE game modes or single missions? (I like playing them with friends but there’s only so much)
Same here, maybe we could get longer form missions
Hi gaijin as a Hungarian i like its our tank and now aircraft in the game
I would like to have a laptop just to play the best game in the world, WAR THUNDER
there was also another hun tank called Tas,but it never made it into production
Does not matter as number of vehicles, or as crews available.
Is a leopard 2A7 HU which is actually the tank Hungary purchased coming? 2A4s are for training.
When 44M-TAS?
Those are definitely Hungarian tanks since they used so much shells.
Zrinyi's armor is very effective, this is all what i can say
its op, also its gun
Jesus the basement guy is going to suffucate on the exhaust.
Anyway I think the US bomber tree ends way too soon. I think it should be extended with the F-117. It is a earlier aircraft then some other requests, and it would also be good testbed for stealth that wouldn't be as overpovered as say the B-2 because the F-117 could only carry two big bombs.
Q: when will we get bombercockpits? "placeholders" are there for years now!
JUST ADD THE 44M TAS PLEASE
When is the winter update leak? I'm hyped up for the update
Hungary should be a part of the German tech tree, it would make so much more sense.
Keep up the great work Gaijin. Im excited for the next update. $$$$
Why did you remove the Rooivalk. And when will you bring it back
Little question do you wanna add the F-18 Super Hornet Boeing because you have the growler already.
And it would be nice if you add the Boeing B-47 Stratojet and the Rockwell B-1 please
Great, Hungary is here.
When Czechoslovakia?
im hungarian i love this vid much love
When will a Oceania tech tree/ tech line come to the game
lots of Turan but the only Toldi was a battle pass reward :|
where exactly is the toldi ii?
Excellent video, a question how can I get the Churchill Crocodile?
Wouldn't it make more sense to have the Subtree as part of Russia or Germany? Or at the very least, if Poland is ever added as a nation. Transition them there? Honestly makes no sense to have them in Italy.
Why would they fill the 2 nations that don't need anything with more and leave out one of the lesser nations?
When will we have EE T1 Osório in the game??
40M Nimród AA when???
Question Gaijin: how do i submit my clip to the thunder show
When no 44M tas
why the italian tech tree? this is the only question what i want to be answered.....
add the polish tech tree!
4 original tanks
Yo is it possible that germany get finally the 2a7 ? or a puma with GOOD rokets and not like the italy one´s that cant even kill a tank thats not even moving ?
I think Hungaian tech tree sloud have t34-85 t-54 and for top tier the leopard 2a7HU. I belive oyu guys vill add these thing's.
REWORK - time fuse shells !
Please add indian tech tree, and i would ask it to be added with soviet tech tree rather than adding it to our former colonizer i.e british tech tree, as most of our weaponry comes from the former soviet union or russia added with indigenous aircrafts, helicopters and even tanks , best thing would be it get a separate tech tree
Im hungarian and I didnt even know this😅
Italian squadron vehicles when?
Make the sturmtiger available again(day 70)
How do you purchase military vehicles. Is it like amazon or ebay where you just click and buy
Puma with spike
No Polish yet :(
So Gajiin i have a problem with my planes, i can't turn them properly because it has this barrier and its anoying i need help to get rid of it
Question Gaijin: will the F-15A be added to the game?
Could you add the cougar avgp to the game?
Turan ❌
Another Panzer model ✅
Please give hungary the 44.M Tas. (Basically hungarian T-34-85) and also give Italy the spanish verdeja tanks made during the spanish civil war. You already have a spanish centaro so why not give them more spanish tanks?
44M Tas is nothing like the T-34-85, it is actually better.
Q. Are you planning to add ww1 vehicles or an event about it?
Make the sturmtiger available again(day 69)
Q: do you guys have any plan on adding Thailand as Japanese subtree? i feel like japan could use a little bit more vehicles.
When are yall adding the new country in the game