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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Sonic fan theories have populated the internet for decades now. However, there are a specific sub-set of theories that seem crazy, but they make a ton of sense when you think about them. Let's talk about some Sonic conspiracy theories!
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    "End of the World" from Sonic 06
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    "Gaia Manuscripts" from Sonic Unleashed
    "Shamar (Night)" from Sonic Unleashed
    "Chao Race" from Sonic Adventure
    "Aquarium Park Act 2 (Remix)" from Sonic Colors Ultimate
    "Midnight Owl" from Sonic Lost World
    "Cyber Space 1-3" from Sonic Frontiers
    "Fakery Way" from Sonic Adventure
    "Boss (US)" from Sonic CD
    "Result" from Sonic 06
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 451

  • @SpinKreator
    @SpinKreator 3 місяці тому +206

    I hate the “Tails is dead” theory because everybody fails to realize that the good ending has both of them in the sky.

    • @burner555
      @burner555 3 місяці тому +52

      Mfw Sonic and Tails were dead all along

    • @omegaflowey9932
      @omegaflowey9932 3 місяці тому +1

      But the game over theme does not fit

    • @SpinKreator
      @SpinKreator 3 місяці тому +15

      @@omegaflowey9932 You said that three times, and I didn't understand a single time you said it.

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому +16

      The implicit meaning of Sonic alone in the field though. Shouldn't it be his constellation alone in the sky then? Why Tails'? To remind you to go for the good ending, of course.
      Still, you're right: This doesn't mean Tails is dead... but maybe worse: That he's kept as a test dummy or unwilling math slave for 8-bit Eggman.

    • @madokalover
      @madokalover 3 місяці тому +3

      no one knows that bc the game is so goddamn hard

  • @knowingjordankid
    @knowingjordankid 4 місяці тому +38

    The old movie Sonic design was weird and when I first saw I was like they are going on a wrong path. The new design made me a lot more happy.

  • @AccelerateHedge
    @AccelerateHedge 4 місяці тому +13

    About the Sonic '06 thing, they DID release an unfinished build, but it was on purpose. They definitely had later builds of the game made, but they were very unstable and probably unbeatable. Retail '06 is just the closest thing they had to something acceptable beyond demos.

  • @dangangalaxy9759
    @dangangalaxy9759 3 місяці тому +5

    My conspiracy theory: I think Yuji Naka is cursed. Every single project he touches either has bafflingly odd decisions made for it, has something weird or bad outside of his control happen to it, or both. There’s always a monkey paw with everything he touches, especially the Sonic series, which he created.
    Considering the guy has always been kind of a jerk, I wouldn’t be surprised of someone put a hex on him or something lol.

    • @AnAverageGoblin
      @AnAverageGoblin 3 місяці тому +3

      Not a curse, its what having a bad personality does to your work and people around you.

  • @burnum
    @burnum 3 місяці тому +5

    The build that was more finished couldn't work for the 360/PS3, and yes, it has been stated to be the case.
    I doubt Nintendo cared enough to go and sabotage X-Treme.

  • @Londonlink
    @Londonlink 3 місяці тому +4

    Funny part Sonic in the comics is blue because of the chaos emeralds but when he has his power taken he is brown

  • @iananderson4754
    @iananderson4754 4 місяці тому +3

    A theory I heard was that the alpha build of 06 kept crashing so they had to use an earlier build and the xbox live demo is supposed to be built upon the alpha build which is why it has so many differences including not having the standing on the side of wall glitch. I cant seem to find any evidence for this. someone suggested that they built the demo afterwards with some improvements but if thats the case why would they not patch out any of the glitches that were apparently fixed in the demo. The only reason they wouldn't do that is that the build used in the demo is different to the one in the game.

  • @andersonsansonowski5644
    @andersonsansonowski5644 4 місяці тому +5

    12:07 People say that sonic had a rough transition to 3D with SA1.....................
    imagine how it would be with X-treme.............

  • @DanialDEcool
    @DanialDEcool 4 місяці тому +3

    4:49
    Marble and hilltop are volcanic. But egg man did partially create his world. As the game progresses, robotnik’s power over the world. Labrynth is the bottom of the island so it’s the last old structure in sonic 1. Afterward, is starlight which is his and scrap brain.
    The third act of scrap brain is labyrinth because it was mechanised by robotnik.
    18:41
    This game was de-canonised by origins.

  • @BB9_animations
    @BB9_animations 4 місяці тому +9

    for the theory where tails is dead, I think its a relative of tails, who joined sonic to get revenge on Eggman.

  • @PinkyPinkuPinko
    @PinkyPinkuPinko 3 місяці тому +2

    The fact that the "HES NOT BLUE" is the biggest thing we can see on the thumbnail 😂

  • @Mecha-tel
    @Mecha-tel 4 місяці тому +2

    Bro you uploaded this on the last day of my 7th grade year, what a coincidence, great video btw.

  • @Hannyxtreme
    @Hannyxtreme 4 місяці тому +3

    About the theory of Sonic 2, I remember hearing that after that bad ending of the game, Sonic 3 from Sega Genesis continues, and that all the phases represent the phases of the duel, that's all I remember because I heard that in a video years ago but I think it's better than just saying that the tails of the other games are imaginary and that's it, obviously the theory is still not credible but I like the other one better, I don't know.

  • @Nister.N
    @Nister.N 4 місяці тому +4

    I absolutely love the 06 build theory. It's answers so many questions about the game and I don't see much proof against it.

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 4 місяці тому +4

    Even if tails did die in game gear sonic 2 that isn’t the canon ending so it’s moot either way

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +7

    Ah yes, conspiracies, some are scary, specially the more obscure or bad ones

  • @mediamanjamessmith251
    @mediamanjamessmith251 3 місяці тому

    Also let’s not forget, (regarding “Ugly Sonic being a marketing plan”) the Vancouver, Canada division of Moving Picture Company (the VFX company behind the Sonic Redesign) had to shutdown which according to workers who were laid off was because of:
    crunch times of 17-hour days (w/ no days off), “external marketing pressures”, and other opportunities made sustaining the studio difficult

  • @reniculous1559
    @reniculous1559 3 місяці тому

    Used to believe the publicity stunt thing, but I never knew just how much info we had about things before the redesign

  • @sugarsmile7852
    @sugarsmile7852 2 місяці тому

    Funny thing about sonic not being blue is that we already had sonic not being blue all the way back in 1991 with the sonic bible

  • @Ratscallion_exe
    @Ratscallion_exe 3 місяці тому +1

    My Theory: Everything is Canon, if you have multiple canons
    That implies that there could be 4 Canon Versions of Blaze:
    Sonic Rush/Adventure Blaze
    Sir Percival
    Sonic '06 Blaze
    ...And if Silver had successfully did his deed in the cycle of Solaris...
    *_*Ignis Blaze*_*
    EDIT: /// THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE FUTURE ///
    YEAR OF SHADOW EVERYONE, SHADOWS ARE RISING
    I REPEAT, SHADOWS ARE RISING, GEARS ARE RISING, ANGELS ARE SCREAMING IN BLAZING FIRE & DEVILS ARE BREAKING IT DOWN CRYING
    _SAVIOR_
    _BLUESTAIN_
    _SOLFIRE_
    _SHADOW_
    _HEAVEN ON A LANDSLIDE_

  • @therollingcreeper1
    @therollingcreeper1 2 місяці тому

    8:25 The good ending of Knuckles chaotix actually has sonic with tan legs as well, even though you meant to say sonic pocket adventure.

  • @Verynoobman
    @Verynoobman 3 місяці тому +1

    i like how the first thing people think of about "take off hedgehog suit" is the fact that hes not blue instead of not being a hedgehog

    • @omegaflowey9932
      @omegaflowey9932 3 місяці тому +1

      But it says "Hedgehog suit" not "blue suit"

  • @sonchedgeofthehog7222
    @sonchedgeofthehog7222 3 місяці тому +1

    8:26 chaotix also has tan legs sonic

  • @Only_Some
    @Only_Some 3 місяці тому

    they may have had more than a few builds of the game @ 95-98% finished, maybe just maybe the build with the complete animations was less stable for some unknown reason, maybe even a build where every bug we have in the game is not present but the game may be an unstable build... my guess is this is the most stable build sega had when it came down to it. to bad this game did not come out in the modern era, as simple updates can fix the issues

  • @ManuFortis
    @ManuFortis 2 місяці тому +2

    7:22 No actually, it is very likely they accidentally released the wrong build. It's not exactly unheard of for things like this to happen, though maybe not exactly like how this occurred. For instance, there are games out there like I think FF9, where the source code is just straight up gone forever. Deleted with no backups known about. Which is why it, along with some other games that get ported to PC, tend to be ported over from the PS1 release instead of the internal build they already (should) have that can be ported over properly instead without the 'optimizations' made for the console. Etc stuff like that.
    Uncommonly known about in the gaming community (*though it really should be better known) is that except for games made on development systems outright; most games are made on a PC with the hardware it is running being used to make the game. The release onto console or other hardware is more of an afterthought of sorts. It's made to work well on the PC, and then altered to work well enough on console. (again, unless a proper development system is available. And even then there is still nuanced exceptions.)
    A good example of this being the case, where some game is made without the 'official' development kit, is like how EA used to release their hockey games on Sega genesis. Long story short, they didn't want to jump through Sega's hoops, so they reverse engineered the cartridge just to be able to sell their game without a license from Sega. Since they already had the game made, mostly if not completely at that point; it was just a matter of getting it published. I.E. All the code and such had already been written. On a PC, or the dev kit (if they had one at that point. I think they didn't... hence part of the reason why the backwards engineering was needed.)
    Anyways. Even if some of the details aren't quite correct, the main point overall remains the same. Developers/publishers absolutely do make huge mistakes from time to time, where whole projects get deleted, or the wrong build gets used.
    One last example, sort of. Dark Souls on PS3's original release, contained exploits that weren't supposed to be there on the release build, so it required a day one patch. I'm trying to find some information that corroborates this, but google is mostly full of people talking about the legal issues Fromsoftware had with Sony because of the name of the game needing to be changed due to Demon Souls being owned by Sony. That, and people talking about the exploit itself, now how it came to be. That sort of thing. What I remember though comes from an article from back in 2012 or so. And I remember it mentioning something from the developers saying something along the lines of "We released the wrong version of the game."
    So. Yeah, this one is more plausible than you might think. And yes, the manual having elements of the game that the game itself does not contain for whatever reason; is a glaring red flag that it's likely true.

    • @JRSonicFan2024
      @JRSonicFan2024 Місяць тому +1

      It could be unlikely, because the PS3 and Xbox 360 were the first consoles capable of digital game updates. If Sega released the wrong version of 06, they could just send a patch or update to the game and the problems would be resolved. It's like the first day of the Switch port of Sonic Colors Ultimate back in 2021. It was very buggy at the start until Sega sent an update to fix all the issues.

    • @ManuFortis
      @ManuFortis Місяць тому

      @@JRSonicFan2024 This is not an unfair point. But, there is one aspect that maybe you didn't consider, or even realize at all?
      So, yes, updates were possible back then, but the sheer amount of what would need to be updated to 'fix' the game so to speak, would have necessitated likely an absolute huge update. The kind of which that back then, a lot of people just would not be able to download in a reasonable amount of time. It's why we still had mostly physical media back then. Internet access was both not universal, or fast.
      So imagine being Sega, releasing a broken game in such a scenario. How would you go about it in a way that doesn't immediately annoy your customers? Or at the very least, shifts the blame away from you, and onto something else?
      Well, you claim that one console is too hard to code for properly, and the other one is effectively just a port of that game; since coding them separately for each platform would cost more time and money.
      This would work back then, because the PS3 was a unique setup in how it operated compared to the Xbox 360, which was basically just a PC with some special edram or esram attached. (I forget which term it was).
      This situation with the PS3 was actually literally used as an excuse by companies too. Too hard to code for, hence why the game isn't as polished as promised, etc.
      And as for the Xbox 360, that special ram included caused its own hiccups.
      I think it was Fable 3 that showed this problem the best, with the game working just fine on PC, but had frame pacing issues on the 360 (if I remember correctly).
      Now, as for the update situation...
      Remember when Nintendo had that huge update released basically right after launch, which caused a bunch of kids christmas gifts to be effectively unusable until they got that update finished?
      If you do, then you probably realize instantly why such an update would be a terrible idea for a game that was just released. It would make it effectively unplayable until the update is finished. A game that you already bought in a state that should have been fully playable.
      Yes, there would be returns. And lost profit cause of it, rightfully so.
      So Sega probably just said 'Screw it, and make sure the next release doesn't have these problems.'
      To be fair to you, they really should have just put the update out anyways, if it really was the case that the wrong version got released. It would have sucked for those who want to play the game right away in a fully working state; but at least they would have gotten their monies worth properly eventually.
      Eventually, because of that network speed issue. Bluray games were often 25-50GB in size, and internet speeds were on average only hitting about 5-10mbps for A LOT of people. (City folk, you tend to forget that you have it pretty good for internet speeds. You are not the norm. Please, remember this.)
      IN fact, at the time, my own internet speed was literally a maximum of 5mbps.
      That would mean having to download 204800 megabits of data, assuming for the 25GB size the game might be needing to fully update. (not bytes, we're talking about network atm, not storage; which means we are working with bits and not bytes technically.)
      That would be about 11-12 hours of downloading time, assuming the 5mbps speed I had at the time was going full throttle the whole time without any hiccups.
      Oh, what's that you had a power outage at the 6th hour? Guess you get to restart that update. (If you can't just resume it, I forget if that was a thing yet for PS3. I think it was for 360, but not PS3... could be wrong, been a while.)
      If it were a 50GB game update... that's nearly a whole day of update time at the same speeds.
      Bluray today can handle up to 120~GB of data.
      Just imagine if we had to do a full update of that... on those speeds.
      Would be 2.5 days of update.
      I think it's fair to say that most would say F.this, and move on to a different game... even at the lower sizes.

  • @themoabrigade
    @themoabrigade 4 місяці тому +1

    in the origional comics, Sonic was brown.... and became blue after the accident that gave him his speed
    and yeah the comics arnt cannon with the games but this seems like a good explanation for it, could also be game sonic just dyes his hair cuz he is a 25 years old hedgehog thats like 150 in hedge years! lol XD

  • @zephon6745
    @zephon6745 4 місяці тому +1

    In some Sonic Media Sonic was originally Brown.

  • @nekofox5821
    @nekofox5821 3 місяці тому

    I feel like the theory that sonic characters know their in a video game is true because in all the sonic games the characters are the ones giving instructions on the controls and how to play the game

  • @AggressiveSpaghetti
    @AggressiveSpaghetti 3 місяці тому

    IMHO "ugly" sonic isn't even ugly, he's just not how sonic used to look like, and I like both designs, the first one maybe would work in a more dark and adult sonic movie

  • @theultimaneard
    @theultimaneard 2 місяці тому

    my only question is if the wrong sonic 06 build was released why didn't the correct build get put in to it as an update patch to at least try save the reputation on the game. it just don't make sense to me to think they would intentionally leave this game in the state its in.

  • @Cookiefromtheshugacookies
    @Cookiefromtheshugacookies 4 місяці тому +1

    sonic used to be orange.

  • @HonoredGlint
    @HonoredGlint 4 місяці тому +1

    7:20 I think this was a Toy Story 2 situation where they lost the files except unlike Toy Story 2 06s files weren’t found

  • @samifarkouche401
    @samifarkouche401 3 місяці тому

    I feel sorry for the sonic franchise ...so much failure and wrong choices.sometimes i fear that the series won't be able to continue.

  • @mariochicasg
    @mariochicasg 4 місяці тому +1

    Yeah, Tails’ death in Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (SEGA Master System) is not canon.

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +2

    8:52 tbh i loved the world and characterization, it was perfect

  • @Blu3Mane
    @Blu3Mane 3 місяці тому

    Dam, that "Hey Google" got me 😂

  • @btf_randist28
    @btf_randist28 3 місяці тому

    13:45 erm actually if you look at the boost animation from unleashed and generations there is a poof of smoke that goes around the screen this seems that he’s breaking the sound barrier also causing the ost to get distorted also in unleashed it shows his mph usually at 900-1000 while boosting☝️🤓

  • @sophitiaofhyrule
    @sophitiaofhyrule 3 місяці тому

    There are also several pieces of concept art as well as many production photos of the ugly movie Sonic. The theory that it was a marketing is 100% false.

  • @arfinjalal4563
    @arfinjalal4563 3 місяці тому

    Sonic lost media video needed

  • @classicstd2
    @classicstd2 3 місяці тому

    wow the thumbnail its redhotsonic

  • @Ultimatesonicgame101
    @Ultimatesonicgame101 3 місяці тому

    The tails is dead isn't unlikely, it's false. As sonic 2 8-bit isn't canon.

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +2

    15:06 hey, when i was a kid i made very deep and complex stories compared to other kids, so maybe their just good story writers

  • @adnan_honest_jihadist5775
    @adnan_honest_jihadist5775 4 місяці тому

    13:47 we wouldnt be able to see him? if you would be living in his world then yes but bcs we play as him we do and sonic's top speed is literally infinite

  • @bluerose_funkin_mod_master
    @bluerose_funkin_mod_master 3 місяці тому +2

    Technically, Sonic wasn't blue before, in one of the comics, it showed Sonic and Eggman's origins, and Sonic was brown in color, so technically Sonic not being blue is kinda right

  • @Happyitboi1
    @Happyitboi1 4 місяці тому +1

    8:26 The fact that even though you meant Pocket Adventure, Sonic DOES have tan legs in the credits of Chaotix.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  4 місяці тому +1

      WAIT FR?!

    • @SonicTheBlueFastBoi
      @SonicTheBlueFastBoi 4 місяці тому +1

      @@SFproductions1 Yeah, It’s really weird, if you look at the credits for Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic is on the tornado with Tails and look at this legs

  • @Toughmaster245
    @Toughmaster245 3 місяці тому

    The second one ain't a conspiracy, it's freaking obvious. It's not like eggman😢 conveniently found everything he needed on the ground!😂

  • @Yapping_Chameleon-m4y
    @Yapping_Chameleon-m4y 4 місяці тому

    How can sonic accelerate his feet into a wheel while running?

  • @SuperSonicUltimate-YT
    @SuperSonicUltimate-YT 4 місяці тому +1

    This Is a Really Good Video ❤

  • @BaconBoy-c2e
    @BaconBoy-c2e 3 місяці тому +1

    10:39 starting in the 2010s that’s wrong. It’s started in 1991 >:(

  • @andersonsansonowski5644
    @andersonsansonowski5644 4 місяці тому

    I have a conspiracy theory of my own which is that
    Elise was a form of protest of the devs of 06
    So I think the people making sonic 06 on sonic team were having a terrible time making the game, so as a way to protest their suffering of making the game to SEGA
    after seeing that SEGA wasn't having worries with approving things after shadow 05, they talked to the game writters while making the story that they would create a human female character that would have a romance with sonic and.......... you know the end of the game..... eh.......
    then SEGA approved it no problem and here we are today

  • @JohnCarman-p2d
    @JohnCarman-p2d 3 місяці тому

    IN SPB BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM SPONGEBOB SAYS IN THE BEGINNG USE THIS BUTTON SO HE BREAKS THE 4 WALL

  • @carcas77
    @carcas77 2 місяці тому

    Nice video

  • @kanenbumford3737
    @kanenbumford3737 4 місяці тому +1

    eggman looks alot like mario but originally sega wanted eggman to be playable,but they did sonic playable instead because it was be a copyright violation if another mustached man would be playable

  • @SpicyPunkRockerOfficial
    @SpicyPunkRockerOfficial 4 місяці тому

    Awesome video

  • @dimitrisavinov3544
    @dimitrisavinov3544 3 місяці тому

    There's a comic ware sonic is brown

  • @JoshuaRodroguez-hz5yb
    @JoshuaRodroguez-hz5yb 3 місяці тому

    SONIC GAMES HAVE LORE? WOW. You’re like a mythbuster 🤯🤯🤯

  • @MPie-zh6tp
    @MPie-zh6tp 4 місяці тому +1

    Remember the movie cats exists

  • @TheGamingChampions-pg1sl
    @TheGamingChampions-pg1sl 4 місяці тому +2

    The yuji naka one is my favorite

  • @rageinducing8368
    @rageinducing8368 3 місяці тому

    Ahhhh yes. More stuff for my adhd to simmer upon

  • @srcoeiu6100
    @srcoeiu6100 4 місяці тому +1

    Not every aspect of Chronicles is terrible, the 2d artwork of the game is really good

    • @JadenYukifan28
      @JadenYukifan28 4 місяці тому

      The graphics of the game were good, I agree, but to me...the way you have to move the characters was clunky, it was so Stylus heavy and you needed to tap the screen so much that I thought I was going to poke holes in the touchscreen...

  • @VXMasterson
    @VXMasterson 4 місяці тому +360

    Tails going through a Winter Soldier type arc would be WILD

    • @lemonyanva1976
      @lemonyanva1976 4 місяці тому +28

      There was sonic prime, the show was pretty mid but it explored what tails could've became

    • @ItsImYoBoiLMS
      @ItsImYoBoiLMS 4 місяці тому +4

      True

    • @TKize777
      @TKize777 4 місяці тому +10

      Who the hell is Miles

    • @SamCo-
      @SamCo- 4 місяці тому +1

      Tail's full name is miles (tails 'nickname' )prower.

    • @SamCo-
      @SamCo- 4 місяці тому +2

      Tails is miles nickname.

  • @Sb129Gaming
    @Sb129Gaming 4 місяці тому +243

    the original sonic movie design was based on the realism that the TMNT 2014 and Transformers movies had with their characters, paramount assumed there wouldn’t be hate since those movies made bank, which is why it couldn’t be a publicity stunt, but rather a misdirection by the studio
    and OG design merch lol

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 3 місяці тому +15

      Yeah i originaly was in the vagon that everything had been just a publicity stunt by the studio until I learned about the merchandise thing and yeah, it was just a bad decision since merchandise its always one of the first things made for any movie

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому +8

      Yeah. As a fan of the Bayformers films, I could see the parallel: "Make 'er more reallistic, more detailed, more alien."

    • @fabiosonhandogrande1697
      @fabiosonhandogrande1697 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@charmyzard The "Bayformers"? How's this the first time I've seen it shortened to that?! Now I'm *sure* there's some fan stuff called "Baeformers" somewhere!

    • @SampIeCDArchive
      @SampIeCDArchive 3 місяці тому +2

      It's like they showed the designers The Garfield, Smurf, & Alvin movies and told them "Do that"

  • @nightygamer11x
    @nightygamer11x 4 місяці тому +172

    “Kid”: *Gasp* Dad, what if I die this time and we make me no-clip into walls.
    Father: What the fuck.

  • @Amiculi
    @Amiculi 3 місяці тому +72

    When I saw "Sonic isn't blue" with the picture of a red Sonic, I thought the theory was going to be that he was so fast he was blue shifted.

    • @Akunne-to8iv
      @Akunne-to8iv 27 днів тому +2

      @gamingrainbowandothers293 ye it is

  • @davifacundobrescia1383
    @davifacundobrescia1383 4 місяці тому +137

    4:56 I heard in a video that I don't remember the name that there was a more finished 06 build, however it was so unstable and crashed so much that they had to release an earlier, less finished build to meet SEGA's deadline

    • @Slimeonian
      @Slimeonian 4 місяці тому +16

      I think I remember hearing that somewhere too but I don’t even remember where I heard it from lel

    • @JM_CLARKO
      @JM_CLARKO 4 місяці тому +19

      Was about to comment this.
      Actually I heard that the demo on the 360 store was an early beta version of the game while the retail release was a later alpha version

    • @Marchers46
      @Marchers46 4 місяці тому +7

      Yea, was it Sunshine Feeler’s video on 06?

    • @legoawcstopmotioner9435
      @legoawcstopmotioner9435 4 місяці тому +8

      From what I've heard, the 06 that was released was the most recent build, but a lot of the features were disabled.

    • @TheLivelovelaugh165
      @TheLivelovelaugh165 3 місяці тому +10

      That sounds reasonable, in development there's a thing call the "Feature-based" development. Large chucks were developed at a time and tested/debugged later. As you can imagine, his causes some back and forth between progress and testing. The populare one nowadays is "Trunk-based" method, where minuscule bits of progress are tested and added to the core development continuously. This eliminates the back and forth debugging and crashing, which likely happened with 06.
      Which explains why older games had impressive features but buggy functionality, and modern games can function with partially finished features with little delay.

  • @Cortez_blast
    @Cortez_blast 4 місяці тому +185

    My theory : tails can't die and he's immortal. However every time he dies and respawns, he loses peices of his memory wich is why hes a coward in the newer games

    • @FirestoneAnimation
      @FirestoneAnimation 4 місяці тому +29

      You might actually be onto something.

    • @andersonsansonowski5644
      @andersonsansonowski5644 4 місяці тому +6

      hahahahahhahaha.............

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 4 місяці тому +11

      Bro thinks Tails is Meliodas

    • @UltraCenterHQ
      @UltraCenterHQ 4 місяці тому +11

      dude made a binding vow. that's crazy

    • @SilverSaiyanAce
      @SilverSaiyanAce 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@@kauanjos3199 Meliodas but if he became more emotional instead of less emotional

  • @Sonic24prime
    @Sonic24prime 4 місяці тому +108

    The reason why sonic arms look like a sleeve is because in the 3-D games it’s hard to animate, which is the reason why he has blue arms in Sonic Boom and the sonic movies

    • @Spir1tViri
      @Spir1tViri 3 місяці тому +6

      The reason why I applause Sonic Boom and the Movie and other blue armed Sonic's out there
      It's not the 1990's anymore so it wouldn't really make sense for Sonic to be the only male hedgehog to have flesh arms so it's nice to see the Movie and Boom make him look a bit more pleasant.... Still hate the games, Only liked the show-

    • @Sonic24prime
      @Sonic24prime 3 місяці тому +2

      Ya

  • @CSTH1
    @CSTH1 4 місяці тому +78

    I don’t buy the Yuji Naka being sent to kill Sonic theory. Thing is, if he was sent to SEGA to sabotage Nintendo’s competition, wouldn’t he have started from the very beginning? Since he was the programmer for Sonic 1, I think he would’ve intentionally made the game bad in order for the game to not be the commercial success that it still is today. So, yea, this theory doesn’t have any weight. I don’t know if anyone actually bought this one, but if you did, well, you have all of the evidence you need to prove that it’s false. I just wanted to engage with the video a little bit. 👍

    • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
      @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +6

      If anythint he was sent to give life to sonic

    • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
      @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +6

      Tho i do gotta say he just did the games, tho naka just wasnt that great, i believe the true father of sonic is naoto ohshima , he made the character himself and was great person, he made his design and stuff, and even helps nowadays like in superstars even without being directly in sonic team, hes good, and better, tho idk who the other guy is, there was yuji naka, naoto ohshima, and some other guy who made sonic but does anyone know who and what he did?

    • @Super70000
      @Super70000 4 місяці тому +6

      maybe when sonic xtreme was in development Nintendo paid him a very big amount of money to make the game get cancelled that make more sense.

    • @RClipsGaming101
      @RClipsGaming101 4 місяці тому +16

      ​​@@Super70000 I mean, he's was just ARRESTED for insider trading a few years ago. So who knows, maybe someone found out that he was paid off by Nintendo or something. And it is curious that he intentionally had certain characters to be written in ways that often made the fans angry. Such as the case with certain mandates on Amy, Sonic, and some other characters. I wouldn't be surprised if his "hate" for Sonic stems from the internal feud that was going on at SEGA of Japan during the early 90's. He was part of the Japanese branch after all and Sonic CD was game developed by that branch, only for it to be outsold by Sonic 2 which was developed by SEGA of America.😅 I don't know, I could be grasping at straws here, but needless to say, there is definitely SOME evidence for Yuji Naka being a Nintendo operative or something.

    • @Super70000
      @Super70000 4 місяці тому +6

      @@RClipsGaming101 it makes even more sense now bro if that is true that would be so crazy

  • @TTG-37
    @TTG-37 4 місяці тому +37

    5:38 fun fact: sega did actually release the wrong version:
    When they finally “finished” sonic 06, they tried to test the game, but everytime they tried to run it, it kept on crashing, so they scrapped that old version, and rushed to make a new one

    • @TTG-37
      @TTG-37 4 місяці тому +14

      Yes, the unreleased build was only slightly better and finished than the one actually released

  • @ericm215
    @ericm215 4 місяці тому +40

    Mario IS Sonic. Mario wears a hedgehog suit like the tanooki and frog, ect...

  • @RDSC_
    @RDSC_ 4 місяці тому +16

    For the sonic 06 conspiracy theres some information you left out. Halfway through the game yuji naka was kicked off the team and they lost a whole bunch of progress which is why the game isnt as good as it looked in the trailers and what not.

  • @Emery_Pallas
    @Emery_Pallas 4 місяці тому +37

    The Eggman setting up all the trap in the levels is actually somewhat canon to Sonic CD (at least in concept art). The increasing amount of mechanical traps as the levels progress represent Eggman's increasing control of Little Planet, with Stardust Speedway and Metallic Madness being completely under his control. Its a really cool form of silent storytelling and I'm surprised it was never brought back for any of the games.

    • @Feroror
      @Feroror 4 місяці тому +6

      and that’s why sonic CD is secretly the best classic 2D sonic game 😎

    • @Emery_Pallas
      @Emery_Pallas 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Feroror It is my favorite, though thats just a me thing

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому

      @@Feroror Artistically yes.

    • @Spir1tViri
      @Spir1tViri 3 місяці тому +1

      Should've kept it in permanently tbh

  • @Bestmotion2389
    @Bestmotion2389 4 місяці тому +47

    Guys... I think Sonic is a Sonic
    I know, it sounds crazy

    • @Skullfacehoodieboy
      @Skullfacehoodieboy 4 місяці тому +4

      He's obviously golden Freddy

    • @Neoniq41
      @Neoniq41 4 місяці тому +3

      Nah he's Obama

    • @errorstudioz
      @errorstudioz 4 місяці тому +1

      Wrong. It's been explicitly confirmed over and over throughout the mainline games that Sonic is actually Tom Kenny in disguise.

    • @sonicultimateyt1090
      @sonicultimateyt1090 4 місяці тому +2

      What the f* is a sonic

    • @Skullfacehoodieboy
      @Skullfacehoodieboy 4 місяці тому +2

      @@sonicultimateyt1090 he's joe and has ligma

  • @LobotomyTC
    @LobotomyTC 4 місяці тому +57

    Eggman DID intentionally place the level hazards, springs, bumpers, etc. in most Sonic games, and has admitted to it a handful of times. He even did so in the Sonic OVA.
    Also yes, they DID release the wrong build of Sonic 06. Kind of. The game went gold and went into production much earlier than the last known build of the game (which is the Xbox Live Arcade demo of Sonic 06, released about a month before the game launch, and much more similar to the one seen at E3 2006). The XBLA demo has all of these features present, including the dynamic day/night cycle, better physics, a homing attack with SA2 styled downward arc, normal spinjumping on enemies would do damage, etc. It actually DID play well in that demo. Unfortunately, the game we got is about 3 months older than the build date on the XBLA Demo. I still have a copy of this demo, which I will pick up from time to time. Polygon Jim once started integrating features from this demo into the final game, but it didn't get too far, as he unfortunately died in a car accident some years ago.

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins 3 місяці тому +5

      Surprised they didn't do a day one patch... 2006 wasn't quite so early they couldn't have.

    • @LobotomyTC
      @LobotomyTC 3 місяці тому +4

      @@keiyakins The game had patches, and even DLC, but it was never brought up to the build date of the demo, for some reason.

  • @VELVET_WARRIOR
    @VELVET_WARRIOR 3 місяці тому +13

    the theory about sonic and his friends being a bunch of kids playing and pretending with their older parent/guardian being eggman is so cute. I really want to see this as some sort of alternate concept because i love how endearing it is.

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 3 місяці тому +9

    So, I've thought about the "Infinite is broken Tails from 8-bit Sonic 2" one for a bit, and I've come to an interesting conclusion: The 8-bit games happened in an alternate timeline, and when the Phantom Ruby appeared into our timeline, seemingly unsupported by even reality as Silver's future seemingly fell apart "in real time" as it was introduced, one of the first instances of reality-breaking may have been Eggman making contact with his 8-bit-verse self and taking his Tails for some of his "modern Eggman" technology; an arms exchange.
    This explains perfectly why Infinite lacks the second tail, his inferiority complex, and special seeming hatred for Sonic. He let him down, the first friend he ever truly had. Where was his hero? His thirst for destruction being him lashing out his hatred against everything is reframed as something despicably tragic instead of more plain evil.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 4 місяці тому +42

    WHAT IF THIS WHOLE TIME SONIC WAS PORCUPINE INSTEAD OF A HEDGEHOG???

    • @OrangezLanternz
      @OrangezLanternz 4 місяці тому +5

      me when pizza tower sage 2019 demo

    • @TrueBruceTube
      @TrueBruceTube 4 місяці тому +2

      @@OrangezLanternz I was just about to reference Snick, my 2nd favorite PT character, used to be my favorite but The Noise as a character is really fun.

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 4 місяці тому +18

    Also, Infinite and Tails are separate species despite being canines. Infinite is a jackal, while Tails is a fox. Also, Sonic 2(Master System) is a spin-off game of Sonic 2(Genesis). Same goes for Sonic The Hedgehog, where instead of being a port of the original game, it's built from the ground up and introduced new concepts, like picking up emeralds from the ground instead of from a special stage. Also, the spikes could be placed just by a former civilization, like Hydrocity Zone. In media, booby-traps are a common trope when it comes to visiting ancient ruins. Also, the ghosts from Sonic and Knuckles's "Sandopolis Zone Act 2" don't work for Eggman since they're in a capsule, until Sonic broke it, therefore releasing them. They also don't drop any animal compared to Eggman's robots meaning that they are ghosts and not metallic creations.

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому

      But then again, Episode Shadow and the prequel comics were afterthoughts.
      Maybe the plans were different at the start...

  • @FanicTheHedgehogYT
    @FanicTheHedgehogYT 4 місяці тому +23

    Wait is that @redhotsonic ? In thumbnail is that You?

  • @RClipsGaming101
    @RClipsGaming101 4 місяці тому +29

    For the Yuji Naka Theories, you should have mentioned that he was recently arrested and jailed for insider trading. Meaning he was dealing with other companies and selling secrets. That would have added a TON of weight to those theories.

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 4 місяці тому +2

      TON OF WAIT LOL Waiting for what? A good Sonic game?

    • @RClipsGaming101
      @RClipsGaming101 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@TheSultan1470 I just mean that the evidence adds their credibility as being possibly true. Not that they ARE true.

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 4 місяці тому +2

      @@RClipsGaming101 Weight, not wait

    • @RClipsGaming101
      @RClipsGaming101 4 місяці тому +4

      @@TheSultan1470 Oh yeah. My bad.😅😅😅

  • @MrR-d1v
    @MrR-d1v 4 місяці тому +19

    "Give me a part 2 now" I want more of this

  • @TheAlbertchannel1
    @TheAlbertchannel1 4 місяці тому +16

    For Sonic 06, I heard they had to release an older build of the game because the newer build was unstable which couldn't be fixed in time. I'm not sure how true this is though.

    • @TheRayerrr
      @TheRayerrr 3 місяці тому +4

      They never even play tested the game and knew it was completely broken but they couldn't do anything about it due to being rushed and half the development team being sent to work on sonic and the secret ring

    • @NinjaTheRaymanFan13
      @NinjaTheRaymanFan13 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@TheRayerrrits stupid how they sent half the team to work on another sonic game they should've just cancelled sonic and the secret onion rings and full on just worked on 06

  • @RandomAnimeGamer
    @RandomAnimeGamer 4 місяці тому +5

    The 06 build theory is definitely not real, pre-release footage used an earlier build that they lost access to. The two theories on this are that they had a hard drive catastrophe due to a power outage or that the build was later used for Secret Rings (since that was originally the wii port of 06). The latter makes a lot of sense, given a lot of the themes of the game in general and some aspects from the early build being in it. This same situation happened for Sonic X-Treme where it ended up using the Nights engine, and Yuji Naka forced them to stop using the engine, based on Sega's policy on internal tech usage.

  • @sopix7761
    @sopix7761 4 місяці тому +5

    with the sonic 2 tails dead theory i always get annoyed cause if that constelation means that tails is dead then what about the good ending? you know, where sonic and tails constelations appear

    • @omegaflowey9932
      @omegaflowey9932 3 місяці тому +1

      But the game over theme in the good ending does not fit

  • @SonicTheBlueBlur15
    @SonicTheBlueBlur15 4 місяці тому +12

    17:37 its always the good ending thats canon, so this is not likely, like you said

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому +1

      But in an alternate timeline, one to which the reality-altering pink rock could've made a door to...

  • @ilyamuromez6412
    @ilyamuromez6412 3 місяці тому +4

    The sonic being human therory kinda implies these kids know:
    -what aids is
    -child death
    and governmental conspiracy
    -

  • @TrollmakerOfficial
    @TrollmakerOfficial 4 місяці тому +11

    Bro wtf google assistant launched on my phone when u said hey google 17:20

  • @ReeceCarpenter-xp3nd
    @ReeceCarpenter-xp3nd 4 місяці тому +5

    He also breaks the fourth wall in sonic unleashed when he looks at the camera and says did I fall on him at the start of the game

  • @DailyOnYT
    @DailyOnYT 4 місяці тому +25

    I swear when it comes to video ideas, you know every single one lol

  • @solidusgadget
    @solidusgadget 4 місяці тому +3

    Naka didn't have to be paid to sabotague STI. He simply hates Americans with passion. And Mircosoft are to blame for rushing '06.

    • @Feroror
      @Feroror 4 місяці тому +3

      Him being a toxic wildcard is an automatic sabotage on any dev team lmao

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Feroror Number of quality Sanic games after his departure:

    • @Cr102y
      @Cr102y 3 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@TheSultan1470Unleashed,Colors,Gens,Frontiers,etc.

  • @HarryPRO-xp3nl
    @HarryPRO-xp3nl 4 місяці тому +2

    i think the last theory is likely because tails was this awesome kid in sa1 and 2 and suddenly in all of the other games he's just this scared guy he doesnt mean anything and the reason tails was so confused in sonic forces because he was reading about himself when infinite beat up sonic and eggman probably used the timestones and went to the bad ending of sonic 2 8 BIT and stole that tails from there and turned him into infinite*

  • @maximyllion
    @maximyllion 4 місяці тому +4

    everyone knows sonic is a nice shade of crimson, where do you think the nickname "red hot sonic" comes from?

  • @ulkimion
    @ulkimion 3 місяці тому +2

    Since i was a kid, i always assumed that eggman put all the obstacles. Thinking it was unspoken lore.
    I mean, he has robots all over the place, is it that far of a reach to think he also put the spikes?

  • @Dimumouto
    @Dimumouto 4 місяці тому +2

    The idea of the cast being just kids imaginations because "we can't control Sonic at the speed of sound" is weak as hell. Using a gameplay mechanic to explain why that theory somehow works doesn't make sense when you think about it either; when you hit the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom. Sonic wants to protect nature and most of the levels take place in nature. A sonic boom would damage and destroy said nature, so Sonic naturally doesn't go *that* fast. You can see this in the opening to Sonic CD. Sonic runs fast, but not fast enough to do damage, but as soon as he lands on the chain leading to Little Planet, he just fuckin' *GOES'. Since if his speed let off a boom there, it wouldn't damage anything, not even the thick chains.
    Lets not even touch what Archie Sonic can do lol.

    • @SFproductions1
      @SFproductions1  4 місяці тому +1

      I'm just the messenger lol i didnt create these theories

  • @PieStudios
    @PieStudios 4 місяці тому +4

    For some added context on the 06 theory: the reason why the tech demos generally look better is because those demos had separate teams with separate deadlines, so they had time to make improvements to various gameplay functions. But these tech demos were on 360, and the main platform was PS3 (since they’re Japanese obv) so these changes and fixes were never brought into the main development build of the game
    Matt McMuscles talked about this in his what happened video for Sonic 06, shoutouts to him

  • @Koko-cy4ff
    @Koko-cy4ff 4 місяці тому +2

    Regarding the '06 build, in software development the latest build with the most features is usually the less stable one. Stuff you add needs to be tested rigorously to assure it does not break the entire program in some manner. The build Sonic Team ended up releasing was obviously not the one that had the most work put into it, but it was most likely the last stable one they had.
    Now, I know many would love to say "Sonic '06 stable? Haha, are you kidding?" But regardless the game can be completed from start to finish with no crashes or major softlocks. Sure, Silver can stun lock you, but it's not like you're dealing with a dead save.

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 4 місяці тому +20

    1:04 that’s why UA-cam removed dislikes

    • @ilikegetting
      @ilikegetting 4 місяці тому +1

      I can see dislike

    • @zachpro5475
      @zachpro5475 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ilikegetting they removed the dislike counter that’s what I meant

    • @ilikegetting
      @ilikegetting 4 місяці тому

      But i have modded UA-cam app on my phone

  • @mattiaZ3000
    @mattiaZ3000 4 місяці тому +9

    Another proof that debunks the "Tails is dead" theory is the good ending of sonic 2 8-bit, which shows Sonic and Tails in the Sky.

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 3 місяці тому

      Yet the implicit meaning of Sonic alone in the field watching Tails' constellation instead of his own if this meant nothing. Why?

    • @Pumpkinchu.
      @Pumpkinchu. 3 місяці тому

      @@charmyzard to tell the player to go back for tails

  • @isaiahscobel
    @isaiahscobel 4 місяці тому +3

    Every mainline character in the series after Project Shadow was meant to prevent the echidnas from going extinct (with the exception of the characters from the Sol Dimension)

  • @SonicThrough-out
    @SonicThrough-out 4 місяці тому +7

    It's crazy to think that ppl think Sonic's world is made by eggman

    • @L1am21
      @L1am21 3 місяці тому

      It's crazy that they call dr robotnik eggman.