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  • @TheMisterEpic
    @TheMisterEpic  2 місяці тому +420

    Check out the new RedMagic Nova Gaming Tablet! - bit.ly/3XTMnqu

  • @sith6375
    @sith6375 2 місяці тому +9956

    Dunno why everyone was so mad at the bukkit guy, he was totally in the right for deleting his code. To think that he unknowingly was working for Mojang and was being paid nothing for it is crazy, even if he wanted to contribute because he was passionate about it.

    • @TwinShards
      @TwinShards 2 місяці тому +818

      Yep. In my opinion he did the right thing.

    • @Captions-Eric
      @Captions-Eric 2 місяці тому +1138

      it is such a good feeling to me to see a indepentant person exercise there right and FREAKING OWN a million dollar corp with there being nothing the corp can do about it in any way
      it is one of THE most SATISFYING things in this world, and anyone who would object needs to be educated on what being exploited in this manner is like

    • @evdestroy4121
      @evdestroy4121 2 місяці тому +61

      this tbh

    • @SolstaceWinters
      @SolstaceWinters 2 місяці тому +369

      1000%. It's situations like this that I can point to and say "You can't always blame Microsoft for all of Mojang's bad deeds. They can be just as scummy. Not always, but the cracks are there." If I had the info and the wherewithal.... I'd take the shot too. My blood, sweat, and tears went into something like that, you're damn straight I'm getting some sweet vengeance for them stealing it like that. Especially broadcasting to the world "Erm acktually it's not going down, we are keeping up for EVERYONE, YAY US!" Like they are the peoples' heroes or something.

    • @randomxgen6167
      @randomxgen6167 2 місяці тому

      "How dare someone be upset at the trillion dollar company for using his work without compensation? I love eating corporate dick."

  • @cephalonbob15
    @cephalonbob15 2 місяці тому +4218

    Mojang when servers literally make slot machines for kids: I sleep
    Mojang when someone makes optional mods: THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT
    if mojang wants ANY moral high ground to stand on they need to permaban any server with gambling mechanics on it or lootboxes with paid keys first.

    • @thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415
      @thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415 2 місяці тому +180

      Minecraft community: creates optional slot machines for their servers
      Mojang: le kalm
      Jenny mod: Allow me to introduce myself
      Mojang: *deepfried eyes XD* real shit! 😂👌
      Jenny hawk tuah stonks: *dips*
      Minecraft community: *surprised pikachu face*
      Everyone involved: wholesome [-100]!
      UA-cam commentary channels: are we blind? deploy the video essay slop!
      Reddit: you were supposed to destroy the siths, mojang! not join them!
      10 gold medals for part 2

    • @f.n.8540
      @f.n.8540 2 місяці тому +21

      They literally ban those servers too

    • @neoncat6820
      @neoncat6820 2 місяці тому

      ​@@f.n.8540 And then unban them

    • @redssign
      @redssign 2 місяці тому +118

      seriously, the eula had that added years ago and big youtubers like ssundee are still able to run gambling servers. it's gotten to the point that players have been taking them down themselves.

    • @grab_a_snickers
      @grab_a_snickers 2 місяці тому +62

      ​@@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415Godzilla had a stroke trying to read this and fucking died

  • @ripleyandweeds1288
    @ripleyandweeds1288 2 місяці тому +3785

    Ok but the twist with Bukkit is genuinely evil. They used their fans' work without compensation--fans who thought they were doing work for their community with their community--and only revealed that when one of the previous Bukkit devs tried to shut the whole thing down. If that never happened, then they'd probably still be doing this. That one guy who DMCA'd them was a goddamn hero.

    • @eis6570
      @eis6570 2 місяці тому +41

      he who sees red.

    • @Sackm4n
      @Sackm4n 2 місяці тому +16

      Sees blue

    • @snailymitch
      @snailymitch 2 місяці тому +21

      They weren't using their fans' work without their compensation any more than before the project was owned by them, after the purchase it still stayed as an open source project and the code written for it belonged to the community (outside of what was written by the hired contributors). I don't blame the guy for taking his work down because he had the full right to do that but I don't see how what happend here can be called evil quite frankly, at worst it seems like a failure of communication.

    • @tristan282
      @tristan282 2 місяці тому +212

      ​@@snailymitch"Failure of communication" isn't a valid excuse when it was deliberately kept a secret between Mojang and the hired Devs.

    • @doctorgrubious7725
      @doctorgrubious7725 2 місяці тому +84

      @@snailymitch it was kept secret bruh, and they had said they had "purchased it", which means jack shit, they had 2 people who had some shares of it give it to them, at best they could contribute to it themself or remove the code they had done but beyond that, they didn't own it.

  • @nabusvco
    @nabusvco 2 місяці тому +5512

    Jenny mod being dmca'd is so funny, probably that bought more attention to it than leaving it be

    • @goldenwarrior1186
      @goldenwarrior1186 2 місяці тому +522

      Classic Streisand effect

    • @nash6237
      @nash6237 2 місяці тому +380

      At least she’ll live on in unofficial, under the radar mods (if people make them) and definitely r34. Gone, yet more accurately, change in industry job. She on the big screen now! (Edit: been reminded it transferred ownership so it’s still alive)

    • @SkyRecruit18
      @SkyRecruit18 2 місяці тому +137

      Ong they have their own website now lmao

    • @lucifertempest9566
      @lucifertempest9566 2 місяці тому

      @@SkyRecruit18 the "official" one is now called fapcraft. OG dev gave code to another person who renamed it to that. not sure what website ur talkin about tho

    • @recursiveslacker7730
      @recursiveslacker7730 2 місяці тому +371

      Remember, if they DMCA it, it’s canon

  • @IJNAoba9-25-26
    @IJNAoba9-25-26 2 місяці тому +543

    Cracking down on the Jenny mod, a mod that you have to actually seek for and even then regulated towards adults, while completely ignoring servers that present gambling towards kids, while said servers are being shown front and center because they have a popular name tied to them, is the most ironic and hypocritical thing I've seen a company do.

    • @_Freariose
      @_Freariose 2 місяці тому +54

      I mean that's just classic western pearl clutching in a nutshell.

    • @yomamas1559
      @yomamas1559 Місяць тому

      jenny mod was a weird ass mod. I'm glade that shit was banned, a bunch of gooners defending it... like dawg go get a gf

    • @Knucklehead8
      @Knucklehead8 Місяць тому +3

      Bro are u getting mad of them doing something? Idc if it's for adults minecraft is for all ages u cant just make a mod for adults like DO U KNOW WHY 18+ exist? I'm confused ofcourse gambling is bad for kids but so as the Jenny mod Adults or not it's still bad maybe bc I'm a perteen and I hate porn but still

    • @_Freariose
      @_Freariose Місяць тому +35

      @@Knucklehead8 Trust me bud, adults don't give a fuck what you do or don't like.

    • @Knucklehead8
      @Knucklehead8 Місяць тому

      @_Freariose I see

  • @drzoidberg71
    @drzoidberg71 2 місяці тому +1576

    that Bukkit story is insane. Good on that guy for taking his revenge though.

    • @daedalus6433
      @daedalus6433 2 місяці тому +38

      Yeah, companies still don't seem to care about respecting the GPL or LGPL

    • @Darwin-sd1gt
      @Darwin-sd1gt 2 місяці тому +14

      @@daedalus6433 they really don't give a shit, unless it's a big project (for example, a company forks Linux, doesn't open-source, and Linus make a huge fuss)

    • @daedalus6433
      @daedalus6433 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Darwin-sd1gt Yeah, the issue with big companies being able to just strongarm everyone both by abusing copyright law and ignoring it when it is convenient for them. Makes me want to throw copyright out the window

  • @diamonje
    @diamonje 2 місяці тому +1606

    Bukkit learned the hard way about business ethics.
    13:25 "Kinda sad that someone is trying to ruin everythin for everyone"
    Bro was putting his life work into something to his understanding that he had an ownership of just to find out that his buddies sold the project to a billion dollar company 2 years prior behind their back. Of course he's going to sue the shit out of them and claim all of his code. He wasn't paid for it at all and isn't going to let some shmuck in a cubicle take it from him for free.
    Ergo Bukkit dies. Rightfully so. Not because of the claim from Bro but because of Mojang's shady backrooms deal.

    • @shadowwalker8296
      @shadowwalker8296 2 місяці тому +10

      No, they were hired on as developers when they signed their contracts.They gave away their rights technically Mojing didn't own the Property property, which no one really looked into, but because each person owned a percent of it, they owned those 2 peoples per cent, which does mean that he couldn't take it down without their permission, which meant that his percent was lessen. There's rapid, they probably had the most percent. However, they're also dumb because, with non pay like freelance work like this. Technically? They wouldn't own an either way. Cause the code would still be owned by the developers. Cause no one sign contracts for a free development.
      And if it's ever caught 1 day. That mojang used any of the code from within there. Technically, they could still be sued.

    • @Keksemann666
      @Keksemann666 2 місяці тому +153

      Actually mojang did something very illegal by not telling people who owns the open source project and that they work for free for.

    • @jonathancarter5120
      @jonathancarter5120 2 місяці тому +129

      @@shadowwalker8296 Contracts made under deception (also known as fraudulent inducement) or coercion get challenged and potentially voided or rescinded in court.

    • @S4NSE
      @S4NSE 2 місяці тому +23

      That's crazy, seems like Mojang 100% knew, since I've never heard that Bukkit was official Mojang software before, so they were hiding that for a reason

    • @squid_cake
      @squid_cake 2 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@Keksemann666 that's true and all but based pfp

  • @letcreate123
    @letcreate123 2 місяці тому +993

    I remember being pissed as a pre-teen that one Wolfe straight-up DMCA'd basically all of Bukkit and thought it was an overzealous thing to do. Now 10 years later and now I know the context behind this and now I think that they were 100% right in DMCA-ing the whole thing, they were practically doing free labor for Mojang under the pretense of an independent open-source project. Shame on Mojang for this type of slimy shit and it really goes to show that they were slimy pieces of shit even pre-Microsoft.

    • @penguinsushi8442
      @penguinsushi8442 2 місяці тому +68

      It's just insane... to think that Mojang stole Bukkit with no one the wiser, it was out of character for them at the time (at least in the public eye). Didn't help it was a messy situation and clear information about who was in the wrong hard to find, unless you read forum threads. I don't recall many vids at the time explaining it well, even now tbh (other than this video).

    • @GothBoyUK
      @GothBoyUK 2 місяці тому +44

      That, my friend, is called growth. Many people get stuck in one mindset and refuse to ever see someone else's side of the story regardless of the facts presented to them. I'm guessing your age-range based on your comment but it's nice to see someone young with already developed critical thinking skills. Maybe there is some hope for humanity! 😁

    • @Platinum_XYZ
      @Platinum_XYZ 2 місяці тому +4

      yeah man that story was unbelievable honestly

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. 2 місяці тому +15

      @@GothBoyUK I was a teenager when Bukkit was a thing, and now I'm almost 30 💀

    • @mightyhead4962
      @mightyhead4962 2 місяці тому +15

      It goes to show that Mojang has always been a shitty company, it's not Microsoft forcing them to.

  • @Electric0eye
    @Electric0eye 2 місяці тому +111

    Massive enormous kudos to Bukkit dev. His work was stolen without his knowledge or consent and he did something almost unheard of: use the DMCA system for its intended purpose.

  • @mikaLtubeyou
    @mikaLtubeyou 2 місяці тому +338

    The yuti kidnap mod...
    I was part of the main server of the Yuti kidnap mod.
    That was a fantastic server with a huge security to get in, forbidden to minors. And even when you were on, anything +18 was banned. It was just a comforting realm where adventures could be created with that 'damsel in distress' or 'captured hero/villain' type of fun.
    We made many roleplay scenarios of rescues, infiltrations and even rpg stuff for the fun of it. This was my most played minecraft server and i miss it everyday.
    Yuti, the creator, was devastated when he was thretened to remove this mod he worked so hard on. This wasn't his first mod, he worked on plenty of games in the past.
    The whole community joined in to comfort him and we even pooled together to gift him something to remember this server by.

    • @repentanceee
      @repentanceee 2 місяці тому +56

      "it's enough to make a grown man cry, and that's ok."

    • @itzthepanther7999
      @itzthepanther7999 Місяць тому

      😂​@@repentanceee

    • @pussydestroyer-wm2tn
      @pussydestroyer-wm2tn Місяць тому

      gooners

    • @DarkerX5
      @DarkerX5 Місяць тому +21

      So basically, to low attention span this comment
      70% using this mod to recreate cs_italy
      and the other 30% using this mod for le bad

    • @fattaman777
      @fattaman777 Місяць тому +5

      This mod was the only reason I downloaded Minecraft. Shame it got shut down.

  • @goblez5900
    @goblez5900 2 місяці тому +598

    Bukkit dev who DMCA'd Mojang was honestly awesome. Real Killdozer energy.

    • @hizatageblank
      @hizatageblank 2 місяці тому +20

      "killdozer energy" makes me laugh, lmao

    • @CreeperMind89
      @CreeperMind89 2 місяці тому +1

      "killdozer energy" is so relatable

    • @ricedbroccoli
      @ricedbroccoli 2 місяці тому +8

      I know this is a joke, but Marvin heemyer was an entitled asshole throwing a tantrum, not a hero fighting corruption

    • @vexs4883
      @vexs4883 2 місяці тому

      @@ricedbroccolihis local government was harassing him and trying to take his land if I recall correctly so he decided to destroy government buildings with the killdozer no one was hurt except for the guy taking his own life after the dozer got disabled, his local government decided to screw around and they found out

    • @greatmacaron5779
      @greatmacaron5779 Місяць тому

      @@ricedbroccoli hello bootlicking cocsucker

  • @LaserCoreX
    @LaserCoreX 2 місяці тому +103

    Seph: Development is ending.
    Jeb: The project's not _yours_ to discontinue
    An unpaid and disgruntled dev: Bet.

    • @ninjafrog6966
      @ninjafrog6966 21 день тому +5

      *Dabs on mojang by shutting down the project*

  • @OverlordTRM
    @OverlordTRM 2 місяці тому +801

    It's like when they took down moneplex for having guns, but everyone was so angry that they just stopped. Which is a good thing. Minecraft is a game for everyone mojang says so. Not just for 7 year olds.

    • @Protofall
      @Protofall 2 місяці тому +67

      Ah sweet. I didn't know that Mojang decided to use their brain and leave them alone. Hooray for Moneplex!

    • @Lockmahn
      @Lockmahn 2 місяці тому +39

      Despite the fact that there are 7 year olds on COD...

    • @demogod4955
      @demogod4955 2 місяці тому +21

      really? I thought Mojang went all scorched earth on any servers with guns in them.

    • @seeyougotthatextrawhippedcream
      @seeyougotthatextrawhippedcream 2 місяці тому +33

      When kids find these mods they usually find it by actively searching for them, it's more likely for someone to get hit by a meteor compared to finding porn mods by accident.(parents should look at what their kids are doing)

    • @TrippaGuvna
      @TrippaGuvna 2 місяці тому +6

      Blame Microsoft, not Mojang

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol742 2 місяці тому +492

    once something is on the internet its there forever. theres definitely ways to still find these mods

    • @that_guy1211
      @that_guy1211 2 місяці тому +55

      yea, with 500+ viruses
      (you should use a Virtual Machine with a pirated minecraft account in order to not get hacked while playing)

    • @geekerandy8773
      @geekerandy8773 2 місяці тому +48

      unfortunately, there are inherent risks in doing so. Many people have gotten compromised from malicious code trying to look like some "long-lost" mod.

    • @prenstopper
      @prenstopper 2 місяці тому +6

      wayback machine?

    • @geekerandy8773
      @geekerandy8773 2 місяці тому +7

      @@prenstopper doesn’t that mainly revolve around screenshotting everything than archiving files?

    • @prenstopper
      @prenstopper 2 місяці тому

      @@geekerandy8773 I tried it before, it does archive files

  • @m.silver7993
    @m.silver7993 2 місяці тому +971

    Sorry but you did get some of the Pixelmon information wrong.
    Pixelmon Reforged didn't come out first, it came out after two different Pixelmon mods merged and became Pixelmon Generations. For some reason people prefer Reforged over Generations based on the lies that Reforged likes to spew, BOTH versions of the new Pixelmon have developers from the original, Reforged just REALLY likes to start drama and spread misinformation. Generations has offered to merge with Reforged multiple times but Reforged continued to refuse. Reforged's drama and toxicity is why Cobblemon exists now, a dev from Reforged quit and made his own Pixelmon. Technically Generations itself as a mod isn't getting updated but now it is an addon to Cobblemon, Devs for it don't want to continue the drama that Reforged seems to enjoy.
    The biggest speculation is that the original Pixelmon never actually received a DMCA and that's why they are able to remake Pixelmon again without receiving another, unfortunately there is no real confirmation on this.

    • @TheMisterEpic
      @TheMisterEpic  2 місяці тому +361

      Oh interesting, i saw a lot of conflicting statements on Reddit about it and it was hard to find the true information free from bias

    • @Thealseie
      @Thealseie 2 місяці тому +55

      Eh, Cobblemon is way better anyway

    • @shirofox6422
      @shirofox6422 2 місяці тому +25

      Its really weird people dont realize generations has devs from the old pixelmon too. Imo personally generations is simply too slow in developing, but it has insane graphic designs and models compared to reforged. Because it had too slow of a development it died down, no server would use generations, who was so far behind, over reforged. At some point in the past they did have somewhat of an equal fight though.

    • @Vyzzariz
      @Vyzzariz 2 місяці тому +17

      ​@@Thealseie cobblemon sadly dont have much for now than pixelmon. So we cant say which is better. There's that big difference of time. Pixelmon was there for years and Cobblemon still has much to do. But i think that cobblemon will be a masterpiece in the future so i waiting for new updates and features.
      Sorry for bad english. Can make mistakes if there's some

    • @paceysinclair8089
      @paceysinclair8089 2 місяці тому +26

      This lowkey sounds like the most childish discord drama I've ever heard💀

  • @MiniatureW
    @MiniatureW 2 місяці тому +246

    Jenny mod got DMCA therefore she is canon to the minecraft lore, now.

    • @jamescourt6554
      @jamescourt6554 2 місяці тому +47

      Mojang shot themselfs in the foot for that one

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 2 місяці тому +7

      True 😂

    • @Knucklehead8
      @Knucklehead8 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@jamescourt6554 no they not u guys made it up

    • @TENOZILIA
      @TENOZILIA 18 днів тому

      @@Knucklehead8 shut up bruh

    • @sohnoterra16
      @sohnoterra16 16 днів тому +10

      @Goofysonicfan I know this is a late reply, but the logic is that DMCA takedowns are on the basis of intellectual property being infringed upon (Used without permission) by a third party. The Jenny mod is an original creation, so a DMCA takedown, while being used to take down content the first party doesn't like, is essentially Mojang legally saying "This is mine and someone else used it" about Jenny, which is where the joke about Jenny being confirmed a part of Minecraft and therefore Canon originates.
      But also, unironically you shouldn't be engaging in conversation about adult content. I would recommend avoiding topics until you're a little older, as you've mentioned being a preteen. I don't say so as "kids should pretend it doesn't exist", but genuinely you'll likely look back later in life and wish you had a bit more time not caring about that sort of thing. Have fun, and be safe.

  • @digitalempire2982
    @digitalempire2982 2 місяці тому +423

    Generally speaking... I've said this before about modding.
    Any mod should be allowed to exist, so long as that mod isnt illegal or breaking a law of some kind.
    People shouldn't discuss any mod that's not fit for the ears of one younger, in a space where theres a reasonable suspicion that someone may not be an adult.
    If no one talked about the Jenny mod, it never would've been more mainstream. But people who saw it said "CONTENT" instead of leaving it the fuck alone. They used it as shock value for views, which in turn just exposed their younger audience to something they should've have never been.
    Mojang blamed the wrong people in my opinion... Is it weird as fuck? Yes. Is it hurting anyone? When its in the proper channels, no.
    Were the people responsible for spreading it, primarily content. creators? Yes. In my opinion, the blame fell mostly on the creators that were responsible...
    But also the parents for probably letting their kid have unsolicited access to the net.

    • @gnarled128
      @gnarled128 2 місяці тому +53

      Nah dude, the parents have no blame here. You might say "Oh b-b-but UA-cam Kids!" when TheMisterEpic himself has made videos on the depraved stuff on that platform already. Also, even the best parents unfortunately can't protect their kids from everything, which is actually a good thing - growing up too sheltered by overly-controlling parents can be just as damaging as growing up overly neglected. It's entirely as you said - content creators milked it for shock value, and UA-cam allowed it on their platform. Those are the two parties at fault for that whole fiasco.

    • @neondanmods
      @neondanmods 2 місяці тому +8

      The jenny mod should have not existed in the first place.
      There are games and experiences made for adults for a reason
      Why do you need to mod something like that into a game made for children
      Developers especially if the game is made for children have every right to ruin stuff like this.

    • @neontheblue
      @neontheblue 2 місяці тому +110

      @@neondanmodsi wouldnt say minecraft is a game for kids. More like, a kid dominate audiences.

    • @DraconisWyrm
      @DraconisWyrm 2 місяці тому +96

      ​​@@neondanmods
      it's so weird how every game ever is "for kids", like adults don't like to play games, or once a game is 20yo the 10yos that played it when it came out aren't 30yos now, or that the people even capable of modding it in the furst place aren't adults.
      there's a difference between putting adult content into SPACES for kids, and just having adult content. you don't invite kids to your jenny server. that'd be fnckin weird. playing fun games for yourself and your friends isn't fncking weird. y'all just get all weird and jealous about it when others are having fun without you.
      anyway, yes. parents should absolutely be monitoring their kids' software installs. if a kid doesn't have access TO install software, that's not the same thing as helicoptering them.

    • @ToxicMothBoi
      @ToxicMothBoi 2 місяці тому +3

      If youre breaking minecrafts rules then that is yo an extent breaking law as youre from that point on breaking the tos which is in fact a reason for them to potentialy take legal action.
      From paid mods, to straight up copied and stolen ones, or straight up p*rnographic mods aswell

  • @The_Wafool
    @The_Wafool 2 місяці тому +314

    bukkit really pulled a totem of undying

    • @KateYagi
      @KateYagi 2 місяці тому +19

      So did jenny mod (via fapcrait) and pixelmon (via cobblemon) lol

  • @Pyrotrainthing
    @Pyrotrainthing 2 місяці тому +616

    The whole Jenny mod situation is hilarious but I still feel bad for its creator, you can dislike how someone mods something but you need to consider what the mod does, it's not like the Jenny mod would've fractured a country's economy.

    • @chrisk6637
      @chrisk6637 2 місяці тому +53

      FOR REAL

    • @brokentoaster4231
      @brokentoaster4231 2 місяці тому +8

      not yet, anyway.

    • @thcgm
      @thcgm 2 місяці тому +46

      go goon somewhere else bro

    • @Greatduck777
      @Greatduck777 2 місяці тому +183

      It is just a mod, and it’s not even on most mainstream modding websites for minecraft, and it’s hard to find, the only reason why it got banned is because youtubers kept making videos on it even though they knew it would likely get banned. I do still have a file of it because I knew it would get banned and having rare mods is cool.

    • @neontheblue
      @neontheblue 2 місяці тому +79

      @@Greatduck777You've acquired a rare piece of history

  • @Platinum_XYZ
    @Platinum_XYZ 2 місяці тому +146

    that Bukkit story was so unbelievable I honestly am shocked. to think all this server software we still commonly use today is still in many ways tied to such an incident. I'm just glad that dude was actually able to be successful in his code takedown. deserved by Mojang honestly...

    • @TheInsane104
      @TheInsane104 Місяць тому +7

      And to think that Mojang was corrupt even BEFORE Microsoft had owned them.

    • @ninjafrog6966
      @ninjafrog6966 21 день тому +2

      and this was before mojang was acquired by microsoft, so the people that blame microsoft for everything wrong with the game and that mojang can do nothing wrong are just idiots.
      mojang has always been responsible for their actions. they were a scummy company before they were acquired by microsoft and still are today

  • @Captions-Eric
    @Captions-Eric 2 місяці тому +108

    it was viscerally satisfying to hear how that contributor reacted to the Bukkit situation

  • @knightwolf3511
    @knightwolf3511 2 місяці тому +70

    Mojang > you can't sell mods
    Mojang > creates a marketplace for mods to sell on bedrock

    • @tenebraemachina
      @tenebraemachina 26 днів тому +7

      Yeah, keyword being "you". Of course the company doesn't want anyone other than itself profiting off their product.

    • @mdbgamer556
      @mdbgamer556 20 днів тому

      WE can't sell them, but THEY damn sure can.

    • @HugoMine.
      @HugoMine. 10 днів тому

      @@mdbgamer556 Nah, it's more like : you sell them but we get a % of the price of the mod, that what they do with java mod creator who sell their mods on marketplace

    • @mdbgamer556
      @mdbgamer556 10 днів тому

      @@HugoMine. You can sell Java mods on marketplace?

  • @ViceMightBeTaken
    @ViceMightBeTaken 2 місяці тому +195

    Can't have minecraft sex, literally 1984.

  • @novaboogaloo2
    @novaboogaloo2 2 місяці тому +21

    fun fact: Pixelmon Generations is still being worked on, they're just mostly silent about it as they completely redid the backend to work with Cobblemon

    • @kaidentjosaas7731
      @kaidentjosaas7731 3 дні тому

      Both Generations and Reforged are being worked on, Generations is trash however. Stolen Code, buggy experience. All for a lead in Pokemon that they are struggling to keep.

  • @NexusOfChaos
    @NexusOfChaos 2 місяці тому +176

    some ppl might scream the thumbnail was clickbait, but that implies the content in the thumbnail isn't present.
    I can assure you, *that* mod will be discussed

    • @dizzyheads
      @dizzyheads 2 місяці тому +2

      At least it isn't hidden somewhere in the middle of the video and only shows a few seconds

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq 2 місяці тому +46

    It's kinda wild that Mojang can just outright ban mods. Like, it's a sandbox game where you're meant to be able to do whatever you want, and you have to ACTIVELY go searching for these mods to use them, so it's not like people are just going to stumble across them without themselves seeking it out.
    They allow all sorts of shady and scummy things to run rampant on servers to take money from Little Timmy, but heaven forbid someone wants to look at some jiggly cubes or something.

    • @GliYch
      @GliYch 2 місяці тому +5

      I don't really get how they even get away with it. As long as the jar files don't have copyrighted content, they're just that. Jar files with random lines of code.
      Not to mention that you need fabric/forge/whatever to make then run in the first place, which is also not owned by Mojang.
      So technically, the rule that you cannot sell mods for Minecraft is just- not valid, right?
      I mean, I could be wrong of course, but I don't see how they can enforce this, outside of course making you go poor through legal fees.

    • @ARDIZsq
      @ARDIZsq 2 місяці тому +7

      @@GliYch I'm no lawyer, but to me it just seems like Mojang/Microsoft really just want full control over the game. If someone does something they personally don't like, they go after it.
      Like, the fact is that you need to find and download a mod loader, install it, find and download the mod, put it into the mods folder, then make sure you're playing the right version of the game. I dunno about most people, but even just that was too much for kid me.
      I think that if kids are finding and playing these mods, that's entirely on them for going out and looking for them. Mojang shouldn't be allowed to police someone's actions based on that of another.

    • @kokdolfn
      @kokdolfn Місяць тому +7

      they let all those scummy things run rampant because they have a hand in creating/profiting off of them. They don't want mods to be paid or have things that don't appeal to wide audiences because they won't make a profit. That's why they made bedrock marketplace where they sell other peoples mods and take a cut.

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 Місяць тому

      Welcome to the magical world of "Being owned by a greedy corporation so powerful and corrupt that they were able to ignore a judge in the 1990's and regularly install spyware and adware on most peoples' computers with impunity."

    • @mdbgamer556
      @mdbgamer556 20 днів тому

      What's crazy is the devs could combat it, but they won't due to the stress, time, and effort required. So they just give up. And Mojang FUCKING KNOWS THIS, the scummy bastards.

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 2 місяці тому +51

    Mojang: we own bukkit
    Random passionate dev: “wait what? No you don’t, see?”

  • @emi8679
    @emi8679 2 місяці тому +29

    A little tip from a developer myself, developers sometimes do dmca waves where they do a bunch of them at once after gathering an extensive list, it helps them stop workarounds by just doing them in waves like how blizzard banned 2 million players using bots all at once they do it in waves for simplifying the already annoying dmca takedown which as I've had to do it before, it's a Hassel when it's just the 1 of you so they have a massive team doing them all at once I'd assume

  • @lunalikesmetroidvanias
    @lunalikesmetroidvanias 2 місяці тому +871

    me who just installed Pixelmon yesterday seeing the thumbnail

    • @syndan9245
      @syndan9245 2 місяці тому +109

      It's still available lol. You installed reforged. Original pixelmon has been gone for awhile

    • @madeofgrease9220
      @madeofgrease9220 2 місяці тому

      @@syndan9245it’s not the same anymore, they made it too smooth.

    • @mocherz
      @mocherz 2 місяці тому +6

      Virtues last reward… it’s been so long

    • @bavarian_mapping
      @bavarian_mapping 2 місяці тому +50

      Cobblemon is the superior mod anyway, I strongly suggest it over Pixelmon

    • @marioborgen
      @marioborgen 2 місяці тому +7

      @@bavarian_mappingit’s better if you like the old blocky style

  • @kitsunemusicisfire
    @kitsunemusicisfire 2 місяці тому +21

    I'm actually one of the people that archived SchnurriTV's mod. I found his mod while looking for weird Minecraft mods for the funnies, and then got sucked down the SchnurriTV devlog rabbithole (which wasn't deep but interesting nonetheless). I was in awe by the guy's dedication and talent, even if it was for something that was very peculiar. I still have the mod on my PC, and plan on keeping it as a sort of Internet fossil of sorts. It was a really well-coded and well-animated mod. I hope he's doing good rn.

    • @Sirmixalittle
      @Sirmixalittle 2 місяці тому +5

      He has since given the mod to someone else who still keeps up with the mod but doesn't update it very frequently, she posts updates on her twitter from time to time. She also has a website for it that is still up at the time of making this comment.

    • @kitsunemusicisfire
      @kitsunemusicisfire 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Sirmixalittle Ooooh that's interesting, glad to see the legacy is continuing!

  • @zman1064
    @zman1064 2 місяці тому +728

    FREAKY AHH THUMBNAIL DAWG 😭

    • @TheMisterEpic
      @TheMisterEpic  2 місяці тому +65

      Hahaha I see you saw that one out of the 3
      PS: search "zman Jenny mod" on UA-cam

    • @n.-_
      @n.-_ 2 місяці тому +7

      praise skibidi or perish

    • @eurybiaball63
      @eurybiaball63 2 місяці тому

      @@n.-_trash language

    • @eurybiaball63
      @eurybiaball63 2 місяці тому +68

      @@n.-_no one cares kid

    • @Neonus_randompersenus
      @Neonus_randompersenus 2 місяці тому +47

      ​@@eurybiaball63that either a bot or ragebait, replying it wont do anything

  • @mine4114-rc7nu
    @mine4114-rc7nu 2 місяці тому +134

    Pixelmon Generations still exists, its just not Pixelmon anymore. Its now an addon for Cobblemon!

  • @ItzYotamGamingYT
    @ItzYotamGamingYT 2 місяці тому +89

    bro at first I thought "DMCA-ed physics mod? who did that? fucking Isaac Newton or something?"

  • @Saviliana
    @Saviliana 2 місяці тому +87

    I suspect that mojang stopped banning R-18 mods was because that they lost so many customers after they ban Jenny and Kit of knapping. Player used to play minecraft since early 2010s are now old enough to play R-18 mods, so why stopping them?

    • @RazzleTheRed1
      @RazzleTheRed1 2 місяці тому +54

      exactly, it's not Mojang's business what players do in their own private servers/games. They have no right to take it down

    • @R_E_D22
      @R_E_D22 2 місяці тому +4

      @@RazzleTheRed1 they do have a right to take stuff down its there game

    • @TalviItzotz
      @TalviItzotz 2 місяці тому

      They do but that doesnt mean they should ​@R_E_D22

    • @the1necromancer
      @the1necromancer 2 місяці тому +50

      @@R_E_D22
      You are free to modify software that you own as you see fit. You are free to write and distribute your modifications to software you own, so long as you are not distributing any part of the core software that is owned by another company (Mojang).
      Filing DMCA claims against developers who follow these guidelines is intimidation and an abuse of power. If any such developer had the time, money, and inclination to defend themselves in court, they would win.
      Mandatory "Talk to a lawyer. Don't take this as legal advice for your situation."

    • @legatelaurie
      @legatelaurie 2 місяці тому +26

      @@R_E_D22 No one's putting it in Microsoft's game, people are downloading modifications to a program to run on their own computers

  • @yadtube1502
    @yadtube1502 2 місяці тому +248

    Like i always say
    Pirating Nintendo and adobe stuff is morally correct

    • @matheuspires2462
      @matheuspires2462 2 місяці тому +20

      Agreed
      They deserve to be pirated

    • @neonflavouredpirate3214
      @neonflavouredpirate3214 2 місяці тому

      ​@@matheuspires2462especially considering how scummy they treat costumers and comprtitors

    • @Gadottinho
      @Gadottinho 2 місяці тому +23

      And ubisoft, and ea, and, after seeing this video, mojang definitely too

    • @piroko13
      @piroko13 2 місяці тому +7

      Most software as a service, especially Adobe products, movies and series as the streaming service thing changed from being kinda nice to absurd, AAA games, especially Nintendo’s and medical books are ok on my list

    • @ChocoRainbowCorn
      @ChocoRainbowCorn 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Gadottinho Contrary to the popular opinion, I don't believe in pirating EA stuff, much less Mojang, although I'm also not really believing that purchasing anything from them is right either - In the end though, actually making your purchase is the bigger good.

  • @nonetrix3066
    @nonetrix3066 2 місяці тому +220

    Honestly I don't feel like you should be able to DMCA mods tbh, or as much to point limiting what people can do with game like 18+ mods. It's cringe sure, but I think people should have creative freedom without Mojang being nanny

    • @kitsunekaze93
      @kitsunekaze93 2 місяці тому

      they really cant, they can only DMCA content they own. They can only request a takedown, and people get scared and comply

    • @sorrtt
      @sorrtt 2 місяці тому +26

      DMCAing the 18+ mods were valid

    • @mensalveare9130
      @mensalveare9130 2 місяці тому +27

      Microsoft owns Minecraft. It wouldn't look pretty if you knowingly allow a mod of, let's say, promoting a certain austrian man, or a mod about doing not very nice things to certain groups of people. Modders do not, cannot and will never own the code of games they mod for, this is by law, unless they make an entire new game, or somehow manage to buy the IP, they cannot do whatever they want with said IP. Game devs tend to turn a blind eye on mods so long as they don't do messed up things, and others, like Mojang, help out modders, so long as they follow (very inconsistent) guidelines. Modding is cool, but we aren't entitled to ti, nor should we force gamedevs to bend backwards to others. They own the code, they wrote the code, and they allow us to modify that code for silly little goofs.

    • @Corgisaurus-Rex
      @Corgisaurus-Rex 2 місяці тому +10

      @@robertm9631 Microsoft/Mojang/Minecraft's house, Microsoft/Mojang/Minecraft's rules. Modders build off of a platform that they don't own and did not build, so they have to follow that platform's rules. Granted, whoever owns the platform needs to make it clear what the rules are so that people can hopefully follow them without issue. If modders want to be able to do whatever they want without being beholden to anyone, then they need to make their own game/platform where they can control the rules.

    • @amvjin6760
      @amvjin6760 2 місяці тому +63

      @@Corgisaurus-Rex Let me guess, you pay for marketplace?

  • @andwhat5_dev
    @andwhat5_dev 2 місяці тому +97

    Former original Pixelmon and Reforged dev here (even though I only played a small part in Pixelmon development. My focus was primarily in official sidemods). The blacklist for Pixelmon was made with good intentions, primarily to protect servers from chronic abusers. Primarily, people that made hacks or distributed software that harmed server's in some way shape or form. There was a very high bar to getting blacklisted from the mod and it was almost never used minus a few cases.
    That being said, I believe the decision to add it was an mistake. Now adays, Pixelmon Reforged is safe to play without any of that code. Though I no longer pay close attention to that community.

    • @nikolaysitnikov796
      @nikolaysitnikov796 2 місяці тому +20

      If you need to hide the code in an obscure file instead of announcing it publicly when developing a mod for the public, you are wrong in your actions.
      People trust you that your mod does what it says it does. If you add a new feature, you must document it or you are betraying that trust, plain and simple. When Mojang added the server blacklist, they didn't try to hide it. They said it outright, and if you didn't like it, you could mod it away if you so wished.

    • @Raizk_
      @Raizk_ 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@nikolaysitnikov796This 1000%

    • @voidwalker9939
      @voidwalker9939 2 місяці тому +2

      @@nikolaysitnikov796 the only correct take

    • @elementalwoof
      @elementalwoof Місяць тому

      @@nikolaysitnikov796 If I remember correctly, mojang's server blacklist wasn't announced publicly at the start. Servers would just get shadow banned. The game would silently check if the server you were trying to connect to was on the blacklist and then pretend to have connection issues if it was. It was only announced publicly after the community caught on.

    • @RaccoonRecluse
      @RaccoonRecluse 17 днів тому

      The road to hell is paved with good intentions. As someone who helped with play testing java when it first dropped, and was playing classic Minecraft. Yall had no right. Not a single damn right to install an anti-cheat on to peoples servers and control them as you saw fit based on bias of how people used the mod. If I am not mistaken, it was kernel level with is FUUUUUUUUU up.

  • @docbrown538
    @docbrown538 2 місяці тому +350

    EA is a shit company but even THEY don't try to interfere with mods for having inappropriate content. As long as the content involved doesn't break real-world laws. They really try to crack down on sims mods that allow you to make simulated CP and whatnot, but that's about it. In both the Maxi's era and the current EA era, sims mods with graphic violence, realistic sex, uncensored adult nudity, drugs, kidnapping, and sometimes even cannibalism were always left alone. Because they understand that it's not their place to decide an adult player's experience just because sometimes kids play the sims games. (Hell, EA made reference to the most popular nsfw sims 4 mod, wickedwhims, by naming an item from the laundry pack 'wicker whims'. Mojang could never.)
    Never thought i'd see the day when EA was better about something than Mojang.

    • @midnight4685
      @midnight4685 2 місяці тому +65

      jesus christ i hadn't even considered that people would mod that kind of illegal thing into the sims, and I've seen a lot of mods. That's depressing as hell.
      But yeah EA gets a win on this one. It is very cool that despite their absurd content pack pricing, modding is free.
      I do think that comparing the Sims 4 and Minecraft in age range is a little unfair, the Sims 4 is definitely a for a bit of an older audience in every way (more of a chill simulator than a potentially thrilling game like Minecraft, it already has Woohooing, boring adult jobs/life choices, etc.). Not that there aren't kids who play the Sims, but Minecraft's brand has definitely been 'for kids' in the last 8 years.

    • @TR0NDAONE
      @TR0NDAONE 2 місяці тому

      ​@@midnight4685allthefallen look it up lol

    • @neondanmods
      @neondanmods 2 місяці тому

      Why do people have to make sex mods for games like that anyway? it's perfectly right for devs to come after you for that,if you really want to beat it then buy p*rn games simple

    • @SamiTheAnxiousBean
      @SamiTheAnxiousBean 2 місяці тому +27

      This is the one exception where taking down mods is actually fine imo
      Nothing of valiue is lost, gooners should find something else to do

    • @docbrown538
      @docbrown538 2 місяці тому +18

      @@midnight4685 When i say kids, i was mostly referring to younger teens, since sims games are rated T. not too far off from minecraft's E10+ rating. 13-year-olds are definitely a big part of both games' intended demographic. Minecraft breeding is about as graphic as sims 4's woohoo, mining isn't a particularly fun job IRL (and you can't really speed through the work day like you can in sims), both vanilla games' violence is pretty tame, death in the sims 4 is slightly more dramatic than minecraft's deaths, but not by much... In my opinion, the modding thing still mostly applies.

  • @Testbot379
    @Testbot379 2 місяці тому +15

    Good for the Bukkit developer, imagine being exploited for working for free for a multi-billion corporation.

  • @OrloxPhoenix
    @OrloxPhoenix 2 місяці тому +17

    "The physics mod adds realistic physics"
    Immediately shows water mountains spawning out of nowhere 😂👍🏼

    • @nephatrine
      @nephatrine 2 місяці тому +6

      Yeah like it looks neat or whatever, but realistic is not the word I'd use for anything depicted from the mod.

  • @hiroprime7025
    @hiroprime7025 2 місяці тому +53

    A thing i don't understand is why moders for Java aren't allowed to earn money from what they make. But Bedrock modders (Skin makers, Map makers, Texturepack) Are allowed to sell it on the Minecraft Marketplace. It sounds like Microsoft wants to get rid of Java modding

    • @tiagotakuceoofredacted8802
      @tiagotakuceoofredacted8802 2 місяці тому +20

      Because on Bedrock, they can claim a portion of the revenue earned by selling those.

    • @Neospection
      @Neospection 2 місяці тому +11

      Because Java *modding* is completely free, Microsoft don't make money that way. But on the marketplace they get a cut of the money.

    • @joni4867
      @joni4867 2 місяці тому

      @@Neospection Java isn't free

    • @Neospection
      @Neospection 2 місяці тому

      @@joni4867 as in modding

    • @egocentric.0
      @egocentric.0 2 місяці тому +10

      @@joni4867 The modding aspect of it is

  • @Chainshot91
    @Chainshot91 2 місяці тому +36

    I remember the whole bukkit fiasco, I was literally just starting my server, and if you didn't know a lot of tech, there wasn't another option at the time.

  • @t0uchme343
    @t0uchme343 2 місяці тому +20

    Gambling good.
    Physics bad.
    Booba bad.
    That's the first takeaway. The second is that mojang turned out to be surprisingly scummier than I could ever imagine.

    • @repentanceee
      @repentanceee 2 місяці тому +11

      well, if you think about it. gambling involves money. and i think everyone knows how corporate scum feels about money.

    • @DakumunDahBat
      @DakumunDahBat 2 місяці тому +7

      @@repentanceee They're Mr. Krabs but on actual ketamine.

  • @Swagmaster07
    @Swagmaster07 2 місяці тому +21

    Nah that kidnap mod sounds insane, it would be fun to try and deffend against kidnappers with some gun mods with it though lol.

    • @itzthepanther7999
      @itzthepanther7999 Місяць тому +5

      That's the thing about it. It was used in a more... You know what, way. 😅

    • @kokdolfn
      @kokdolfn Місяць тому +5

      @@itzthepanther7999 it can be used however the person wants to use it, because its a mod and doesn't have guidelines or anything. This is the same stupid argument people make for custom cod emblems being removed. People think it was removed because people would make offensive emblems, when in actuality it's because they wanted to start selling emblems instead of letting people make their own.

    • @TENOZILIA
      @TENOZILIA 18 днів тому

      @@kokdolfn fr.

  • @justpassingby298
    @justpassingby298 2 місяці тому +50

    So a little about the jenny mod.. Schnurri is a German, which means that to own a website, he needs to have his personal information available on the site. There's problem one. Then mojang DMCA'd him, that's problem two.
    It's those things coming together that made him stop working on the mod, which fun fact, had a custom lighting system.
    Why I know this information is for me to know.

    • @nopenoperson9118
      @nopenoperson9118 2 місяці тому +26

      "Schnurri is a German, which means that to own a website, he needs to have his personal information available on the site."
      How is Germany even a real place
      E: just found out Germany taxes you if you're religious and will go to extremes to unearth any lies and make SURE they're getting their 9% of your income every year

    • @BihanduKulatunga
      @BihanduKulatunga 2 місяці тому +3

      That's why we don't have an updated jenny mod for new versions

    • @justpassingby298
      @justpassingby298 2 місяці тому +2

      @@BihanduKulatunga we don't have an updated version because he didnt want to develop on newer versions. That's it. There's no deeper reason.

    • @RaccoonRecluse
      @RaccoonRecluse 17 днів тому +1

      @@nopenoperson9118 Yeah, it protects cooperate entities and doxes the small guy. Its wild.

  • @animema
    @animema 2 місяці тому +19

    When I heard about the SchnurriTV mod getting shut down I was honestly pretty scared that that was just the beginning and that Mojang would also try to get Gun Mods or other mods of the kind removed which thankfully didn’t happen

    • @legatelaurie
      @legatelaurie 2 місяці тому +10

      Hasn't happened yet. All it takes is a concerned group writing to Microsoft or Mojang and one of their employees feeling overzealous about protecting people from what they want to do with a game they own

    • @wingedflyingforce5139
      @wingedflyingforce5139 2 місяці тому +3

      Give it time, it's coming dude

    • @kaidentjosaas7731
      @kaidentjosaas7731 3 дні тому

      @@wingedflyingforce5139 Do you know another mod that shows hardcore porn? I'm not aware of one. You guys are acting like it was weird for Mojang to take a stance on a Sex mod for a game that is clearly marketed towards children.

  • @redwolf5047
    @redwolf5047 2 місяці тому +28

    Here's likely what happened:
    Corporate MBA Type: "I want to clean up the multiplayer minecraft scene. this group, i want to ban grifers, that group will ban adult content."
    (Employees do what they're told for a couple weeks)
    Corporate MBA type: "Great work team! let's move on to (new thing that'll get me favorably looked at by the board)!"
    Employees: "yeah sure, whatever."

  • @adamsgaming1444
    @adamsgaming1444 2 місяці тому +6

    6:14 “adding realistic water”
    Ah yes, the most realistic waves I’ve ever seen in a video game lol

    • @kaidentjosaas7731
      @kaidentjosaas7731 3 дні тому

      That is with the config settings cranked up. That's not default how the mod comes.

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ 2 місяці тому +142

    Pixelmon: puts in code to give them the power to ban players from a specific server, DMCA's criticism, gets massive outrage and shuts down
    Mojang: puts in code to ban players from _literally any server,_ DMCA's criticism, gets away with it

    • @commodorex
      @commodorex 2 місяці тому +29

      Well the difference is that Mojang literally owns the rights to the game, while Pixelmon doesn't. Your argument is flawed

    • @art0007i
      @art0007i 2 місяці тому +25

      I always play with no chat reports mod on those versions. I don't know how they didn't have more backlash for this change to be honest.

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ 2 місяці тому +51

      @@commodorex They literally had to change the original EULA to make that possible. Many of us who bought the game earlier initially signed up for a completely different terms of service, one which simply said we owned the game, which the bans violate. I'm not sure on the legality of this but its definitely iffy.
      Additionally, they have abused DMCA, using it outside its legal bounds. Antvenom has a video where he discusses how this has been done against Bugrock developers. Plus there's been the whole fiasco with Minecraft Movie DMCA. Pixelmon was definitely not operating legally, but Mojang has done some remarkably shady stuff recently.

    • @normified
      @normified 2 місяці тому +32

      @@commodorex Your argument is also flawed, just because they own the rights to the game doesn't mean they should have the right to forcibly remove an entire feature of the game from a particular player who payed in a DEFINITELY targeted attack.

    • @LoinkLoink
      @LoinkLoink 2 місяці тому +3

      @@normified The reason why the original argument is flawed is because it implied that the two cases were of equal tiers. A double standard that does not exist. Pixelmon is a mod. Mojang owns the game.

  • @Nevir202
    @Nevir202 2 місяці тому +7

    TBH, never seen a more deserved DMCA in my life than the dev who was suddenly told all his work belonged to Mojang, and said, "No it doesn't!"

  • @Syphe07
    @Syphe07 2 місяці тому +7

    I feel like the kidnapping mod would be hilarious if just secretly installed in a giant modpack (like atm9) to just troll / meme with friends

  • @hac0b24
    @hac0b24 2 місяці тому +438

    Kidnap mod❌
    Rope play✅

  • @spoopyvirgil4944
    @spoopyvirgil4944 6 днів тому +1

    Why does the kidnap mod actually look kinda fun? Like. Even in a singleplayer server, I could easily see myself making up storylines with it.

  • @ChortleChortle
    @ChortleChortle 2 місяці тому +10

    12:50 I was there for the DMCA takedown. Heck of a time to be an in-college server admin. I downloaded the final Craftbukkit build off TPB and hoped for the best. Though from what I remember, it was *Craftbukkit* , the *implementation* of the Bukkit API, that Wolfe was able to take down by DMCA'ing his contributions. You can see it in the list of URLs that rises up the screen. IIRC through a herculean effort Spigot was able to compensate for the loss of Wolfe's code, and with their new BuildTools distribution system, saved the entire Bukkit server scene.
    Back then I was mad at Wolfe for making it harder to run my server, but as an adult now it's 100% justified and I'd be mad if he hadn't. Sucks how much the DMCA devastated the Bukkit website though, it made some research and information completely impossible to find.

    • @pikatrainer3835
      @pikatrainer3835 19 днів тому

      Pretty sure Bukkit & Spigot could have continued using Wolfe's code, as the issue was it being mixed with Mojangs closed source-code. After switching to user made builds by patching a local Minecraft server file, I don't see how the DMCA applies.
      To my understanding, once code is released under the GPL, the author cannot revoke the license or take down the code in others projects as long as the GPL’s terms are upheld.

  • @ProtectusCZ
    @ProtectusCZ 2 місяці тому +25

    1:02 - Nintendo Switch, Steam Deck, Windows handhelds, Playstation Portal, Controller Phone Mount exist

    • @madbanana22
      @madbanana22 2 місяці тому +2

      how is the advertised tablet better than a normal one

    • @blakeroni155
      @blakeroni155 2 місяці тому +3

      plus all of those are cheaper than a redmagic iirc

    • @321Jarn
      @321Jarn 2 місяці тому +4

      I have a Steam deck and have to agree.
      Making a gaming tablet actually good is difficult, but even if it is that's ignoring you can't play most pc games because you're on android.
      Plus with the alternatives you actually get controller input AND touchscreen, instead of only having to use touchscreen.
      And I bet the steam deck's price is way better too.

    • @Judgement_bcuz
      @Judgement_bcuz 2 місяці тому

      Eh, he gets paid for the sponsorship so he probably already knows

    • @amycosmicpuppy
      @amycosmicpuppy 2 місяці тому

      @@321Jarn You can use controllers through bluetooth on a tablet or phone

  • @willowryk
    @willowryk 2 місяці тому +9

    16:10 is insane , i didn't even know you could just have your minecraft account banned

    • @repentanceee
      @repentanceee 2 місяці тому

      there was a chat reporting system in place i believe, implemented 3 years ago. community told m*jang itd be a failure, but they insisted. 2 years later, surprise surprise, it was a failure.
      so now because of the way a lot of servers are implemented now, you can only report names and skins.
      tldr yes, but the only way you can get banned on minecraft is if you have less than 5 functioning braincells

    • @DAVE_MILLER_oldsportshubby
      @DAVE_MILLER_oldsportshubby Місяць тому

      How did you not know..?

    • @youssef1770
      @youssef1770 3 дні тому

      you thought hackers and cheaters on minecraft could roam freely? without getting banned?😂
      ofcourse you could get your minecraft account banned for reasons

    • @repentanceee
      @repentanceee 3 дні тому

      @@youssef1770 systems like watchdog on hypixel already enforce that well enough. you can't get your account banned by Microsoft for using a hacked client unless you're a wingnut who hacks on their main acc

  • @Notta_femboy
    @Notta_femboy 2 місяці тому +10

    Ahh i miss the days of the kidnap mod, playing that with friends was so fun

  • @marcy2225
    @marcy2225 2 місяці тому +81

    0:13 I mean I can kinda understand why this one was💀

    • @dont8216
      @dont8216 2 місяці тому +5

      What even was it called? I never have even seen this one

    • @WarLightning042
      @WarLightning042 2 місяці тому

      UT's Kidnap mod​@@dont8216

    • @CircusRodent
      @CircusRodent 2 місяці тому +17

      @@dont8216 Kidnapping mod. It was taken down because a server was using it without verifying the ages of people who joined and well it got reported.

    • @TheNormalPurplePumpkin
      @TheNormalPurplePumpkin 2 місяці тому +2

      Jenny mod is still up though

    • @DakumunDahBat
      @DakumunDahBat 2 місяці тому +5

      @@CircusRodent sooooo the entire mod got banned, not the server? seems like an overreach ngl.

  • @Andwei70
    @Andwei70 2 місяці тому +42

    2:29 "Let's do not forget this anime girl-system thing that you can put on your screen as long as you want"
    "Let's get rid of that for now though" LOL 😂😂😂

  • @bigdot2355
    @bigdot2355 2 місяці тому +3

    You know what they say a game starts off fresh and baked but mods keep the game alive. You could say Minecraft’s success was built on mods itself.

  • @firstnamlastnam2141
    @firstnamlastnam2141 2 місяці тому +3

    The Bukkit story really shows that even before the Microsoft buyout, Mojang wasn't some innocent angel that could do no wrong, they were pretty awful already.

  • @TheGuytm-w6c
    @TheGuytm-w6c 2 місяці тому +44

    first of all the "jenny mod" and schurritvs mod are the same thing
    and secondly, even though it was dmca'd its still around under a new name and being actively developed

    • @gregatim
      @gregatim 2 місяці тому

      There are different Jenny mods some utilize the schunrri code others fully remade.

    • @zhan146
      @zhan146 2 місяці тому +1

      @@gregatim wait, there are multiple?
      i thought there was only the one that has a page

    • @gregatim
      @gregatim 2 місяці тому +5

      @@zhan146 yeah schunri opened a pandora box of nsfw mods

    • @gregatim
      @gregatim 2 місяці тому +1

      @@zhan146 i should too explain those mods have different characters and stuff

    • @zhan146
      @zhan146 2 місяці тому +6

      @@gregatim mind sharing some of those?

  • @celestialbattle666
    @celestialbattle666 2 місяці тому +40

    In the hands of the wrong, power causes destruction.

  • @hazeltana
    @hazeltana 2 місяці тому +10

    kidnapping villager*
    mojang: i sleep
    kidnapping npc that behaves like villager*
    mojang: real sht

    • @saltyycoffee
      @saltyycoffee 2 місяці тому

      I mean it worked on players...

    • @TENOZILIA
      @TENOZILIA 18 днів тому +1

      @@saltyycoffee holding some player hostage while demanding randsome diamonds sounds sick asf

  • @_4M
    @_4M Місяць тому +3

    Crazy how they banned monetizing Java mods but it’s a completely different story on bedrock…

  • @mineapple1165
    @mineapple1165 2 місяці тому +7

    9:17 🫡🫡 Fly hight soldier.

  • @Makem12
    @Makem12 2 місяці тому +6

    16:13 Notch coming in with a crushing response!

  • @RaccoonRecluse
    @RaccoonRecluse 17 днів тому +1

    Mojang cried, and now Microsoft is crying about how Minecraft is a "kids game" not realizing half or over half of its fan base are adults who have been here since the beginning.

  • @piekay7285
    @piekay7285 2 місяці тому +2

    The funny thing about the DMCA takedown of Bukkit is that he only could do it (from my understanding of the GPL), because Bukkit violated the GPL by using Mojangs code, which wasn’t licensed under a GPL-compatible license.

  • @clothieredward
    @clothieredward 2 місяці тому +3

    As someone who uses Pixelmon a lot, I had no idea Pixelmon did such a thing as blacklisting servers with their mod. Genuinely psychotic that Pixelmon did that at one point.
    And the 18+ mods you showed off in the video... they sure are unhinged. I'll just say that.

  • @helper_games
    @helper_games 2 місяці тому +4

    Alright so, i was questioning for awhile "where's the kidnap mod?, i need it to make my cowboy series fun", and yep this explains why i couldn't find it, i thought it only had rope, npc's and a robbery system, ya i was dead wrong

    • @repentanceee
      @repentanceee 2 місяці тому +2

      i mean i've used it in the past for non-sexual stuff so win win

    • @helper_games
      @helper_games 2 місяці тому +2

      Oh i can fully get a ton of people didn't use it for, that, but i was always questioning why it was gone

  • @HoGo-m1e
    @HoGo-m1e 2 місяці тому +6

    For the physics mod, i have some underground info, there was an arms race between telegram leakers, they would leak and crack the auth on the mod, eventually one of them filed a complaint to mojang to get it to be free. Thats why it was singled out

    • @Runelee1
      @Runelee1 Місяць тому +2

      tbf dude was charging effectively the equivalent of an MMO subscription for the mod instead of a one time purchase. He was kinda asking for it.

    • @GG_Blade_GG
      @GG_Blade_GG 25 днів тому +1

      No mod for any game should be allowed to be put behind a paywall, I just wish they would also get rid of the bedrock marketplace too

  • @KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtks
    @KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtks 2 місяці тому +1

    I've seen game modders put up projects on Patreon, giving perks to patrons, while making the final product/update free to avoid inciting the games' companies' wrath, and they're successfully making a living out of it; e.g. Cheello, who makes voxelized models of sprites in '90s FPS games like Doom. It's nice that modders (who used to never get compensation for their work) could do this now.
    I'm glad Haubna got his Patreon back, and he seems to be doing fine with Pro being free now. I did fear this great mod getting taken down eventually. Misa, creator of one of the oldest "HD" texture packs, has done the same for her pack, giving patrons perks like early access but making the final updates completely free, and now she's doing the pack full-time.

  • @ginnogianni1980
    @ginnogianni1980 2 місяці тому +2

    The bukkit lore is series worthy 10/10

  • @clockFox09
    @clockFox09 2 місяці тому +6

    Really kinda hate Nintendo for all their abuse of the legal system. "Oh, you REFERENCED our game in yours? FULL FORCE LAWSUIT!!!" Like... C'mon, I'm pretty sure Nintendo is not above sueing LITERAL CHILDREN. Someday I hope they bite off more than they can chew and lose a lawsuit and get taken down quite a few notches.

    • @DakumunDahBat
      @DakumunDahBat 2 місяці тому +2

      Honestly am hoping they lose the Palworld lawsuit, PocketPair has a huge mobile company wanting to make a Palworld mobile game, and Microsoft and Sony as partners, so I'm REALLY hoping Nintendo loses this one.

  • @Day100
    @Day100 2 місяці тому +4

    I had no idea that mojang and MS tried to steal bukkit like that. I made a couple bukkit servers with my friends growing up and they were way better than anything else at the time

  • @ethansito5321
    @ethansito5321 2 місяці тому +4

    Mojang: being able to ban people from any server that runs your software is not cool. Stopping abusers is not an excuse.
    Microsoft: what if we paid you?
    Mojang: actually banning people from any server is important for safety

  • @whiteglovian
    @whiteglovian 2 місяці тому +2

    I was actually a patron of the physics mod! It was really, really fun. Glad it's free now, though

  • @teimodrp.jpeg1234
    @teimodrp.jpeg1234 2 місяці тому +1

    the fact that the 18+ mods in the chapters have more replays than every other part of the video

  • @darksouls90
    @darksouls90 2 місяці тому +16

    1:04 no offense dude but with shipping and handling plus tax the 499 price tag shoots ab0ve 550 or over, for that much of an increase you might as well just buy a gaming laptop off of market place, i have an asus rog zyphrus that i found on market place for 650 and it has a 2070 max q design and an intel I7, idk about weirdos, but buying a gaming tablet over an actual pc or console is ridiculous

  • @tehbeard
    @tehbeard 2 місяці тому +13

    The bukkit API still lives on inside spigot/paper and all the forks thereof.
    Decade old legacy code.
    And paper is trying to move away from it. It doesn't fit as well with modern Minecraft's code as datapacks make the game more configurable (Particularly around things like paintings etc, which are dynamic now rather than a static list of painting variants).
    You've reminded me that, perhaps it's also to get out from under Mojang's thumb if they still own the Bukkit project, and therefore the Bukkit API spec....

    • @MasterBroNetwork
      @MasterBroNetwork 2 місяці тому +1

      Minestom is a pretty decent option for that, There are a lot of projects like it too.
      But keep in mind that Minestom does not implement vanilla features on its own and is more of a framework to build on top of.

  • @shauncarrier3575
    @shauncarrier3575 Місяць тому +8

    Guys, I swear I didn't leave that comment. 15:35

  • @IceAccount
    @IceAccount 2 місяці тому +221

    I'm creaking

    • @ThatAsianPenguin
      @ThatAsianPenguin 2 місяці тому +31

      Nice to meet you creaking. I’m penguin, at least one of us got in the game eh?

    • @HKIHNDKNSI
      @HKIHNDKNSI 2 місяці тому +19

      ​@@UppersteelInstead you're getting a notification telling you to get a life

    • @3RR0RNULL
      @3RR0RNULL 2 місяці тому +10

      @@Uppersteelget a life

    • @Gatorboy5678
      @Gatorboy5678 2 місяці тому +5

      @Uppersteel is a bot. Just report for spam and move on.

    • @ZenithSolsticeYT
      @ZenithSolsticeYT 2 місяці тому +5

      @@UppersteelFoolish

  • @chhungusgaming
    @chhungusgaming Місяць тому +1

    The mod by SchnurriTv was actually taken down because he was locking the newest versions behind a paywall on his patreon. (source: i was a patron)

  • @The-Omega-Blade
    @The-Omega-Blade 17 днів тому +1

    the "Kidnap" mod is _most likely_ inspired by a game called "Didnapper" an JRPGmaker game that has VERY similar style stuff and text lines (while the game is 18+ too technically, it's got no sexual content in the ways of showing nudity or scenes including intimate acts), This is doubly reinforced by 4 NPC Names (Saki, Athena, Carol and Evelyn) and the Dev of the Mod "Yuti"'s profile picture (Evelyn) which are all from the same game...
    (the game was very fun (i can't seem to find a working link anymore, the game is hella old and was left years ago, so probably not upkept at all) and was legit one of the better oddball games out there, even if the game was just "bondage fetish"...

  • @Emmanuel-ll7od
    @Emmanuel-ll7od 2 місяці тому +3

    NPC: I'll take you somewhere nice
    Mr Epic:(cool footage for my video)
    😂

  • @TheStarshipGarage
    @TheStarshipGarage 2 місяці тому +6

    Reject Pixelmon, embrace Cobblemon

  • @Rig
    @Rig 2 місяці тому +3

    Holy shit that Bukkit drama was 10 years ago... God I'm old

  • @Mr_Fallout76
    @Mr_Fallout76 Місяць тому +1

    Mann we need All mods back that were mentioned in youre vid even the 18+ ones the were iconic

  • @JamesR624
    @JamesR624 Місяць тому +1

    Hey, remember when this was an open sandbox game about freedom for all....
    Before Micro$oft got a hold of it and turned into an abusive money machine?

  • @crimi.photos
    @crimi.photos 2 місяці тому +18

    1:55 500$ monitor with only 144hz is diabolical, you got scammed

    • @GIKKI9268
      @GIKKI9268 2 місяці тому +1

      he didn't get scam because they probably send him the device for free

    • @IxJK_
      @IxJK_ 2 місяці тому +2

      @@GIKKI9268he meant the fact that this guy bought a monitor worth 500

    • @crimi.photos
      @crimi.photos 2 місяці тому

      @@GIKKI9268 he mentioned that his own 500$ monitor has 144hz in an attempt to make that tablet seem good

    • @RbXi-m2z
      @RbXi-m2z 2 місяці тому +1

      my $100 34 inch 1440p wide monitor has 244 hz 💀

    • @ArtificialDjDAGX
      @ArtificialDjDAGX 2 місяці тому +1

      depends on what monitor tech it uses, be it TN, VA, IPS, or OLED. Good gaming monitors are overpriced to hell. That $500 monitor is (and I hate this fact) entry-level, with the actually great stuff costing around $1000.

  • @Pebbleguy
    @Pebbleguy 2 місяці тому +14

    Note that the "Jenny Mod" is still in development weirdly enough.
    Mojang just told the dev that they couldn't be making money off of the mod and he handed the code off to another minecraft modder. I find it weird Mojang was like "yeah you cant make money off of it but you can keep developing it as long as its free"

    • @midnightcaretakers7954
      @midnightcaretakers7954 2 місяці тому +8

      If that's true, then the Kidnap mod would still be around. Is there any proof of this? If so I'd love a screenshot, I want to throw the holy hand-grenade of antioch at Mojang.

    • @rickywilliams8689
      @rickywilliams8689 2 місяці тому

      ​@@midnightcaretakers7954 The mod is under a different name

    • @Veroom
      @Veroom 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@midnightcaretakers7954 The kidnap mod was always free.

    • @midnightcaretakers7954
      @midnightcaretakers7954 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Veroom I am very much aware, I was referring to the Jenny Mod being told as long as it's free..since kidnap was free. I'm always looking for a way to kick Mojang in the nards about this. But hey it's not like I have an alter ego in the cold.

    • @blockstacker5614
      @blockstacker5614 2 місяці тому +1

      I've never really been a fan of paid mods. I feel like if I'm paying for something that isn't official content, it better be just as good as a complete new game if not more.

  • @Lukaurio
    @Lukaurio 2 місяці тому +5

    I never knew that about bukkit. It's good to have the information now but that guy was 100% in the right to delete the code. Imagine working for a multibillion-dollar company and not being paid for it, all the while not knowing that they technically own it. That was completely unjustified by Mojang. Though another thing, I'm surprised, there wasn't anything about gun related mods in here. Cuz I know that they went on a spree taking those down but there's one that even I still use right now called MrCrayfish gun mod. Which has a ton of add-ons as well. Either way, this was a very interesting video, well done. :]

  • @John_Gillman
    @John_Gillman 2 місяці тому +2

    Mods shouldn't be behind paywalls, that's the bedrock marketplace's job afterall

  • @thechallenger6124
    @thechallenger6124 2 місяці тому +1

    surprized to see kidnapmod in thumbnail. still sad to see it gone, had more fun playing cops and robbers with that than anything

  • @theimpossibros39
    @theimpossibros39 2 місяці тому +12

    13:56 I remember a video on UA-cam about this when I was quite young, maybe 13 or less, and I did have a history with this type of thing back then which led me to be… let’s say from a teen to a degenerate.

  • @JonelKingas
    @JonelKingas 2 місяці тому +4

    6 Best mods ever made: Cracker's Wither Storm, Dragon Block C, Cobblemon, Jenny mod, ProjectE, Industrial Craft.

    • @DakumunDahBat
      @DakumunDahBat 2 місяці тому

      Am currently excited for Dragon Block V, and Tensura: Reincarnated, lol.

  • @kitsunekaze93
    @kitsunekaze93 2 місяці тому +4

    i wonder how Mojang can DMCA mods, as long as the mod doesnt contain any of their content, anyone can make a mod and even sell it. Just as i could make a product thats specifically compatible with apple phones or nintendo consoles, as long as it doesnt use their branding.

  • @mircirs
    @mircirs 2 місяці тому +1

    god i feel old back when i use to run a Minecraft server it used bukkit i didn't even know bukkit was gone