The Downfall of New Super Mario Bros.
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- The New Super Mario Bros. series was once a faithful, yet innovative return to 2D Mario. However, with each new entry in the series, the formula became very stale. But what caused this? Let's discuss this in today's video!
Special thanks:
FCPlaythroughs - NSMBDS Footage
packattack04082 - NSMBDS Vs. Footage
Couch Potatoes - NSMBW Multiplayer Footage
World of Longplays - NSMB2 Footage (Played By Tsunao)
World of Longplays - NSMBU Co-Op Footage (Played By Frederikct112 & Sebbe12)
CreepTeller Games - NSMB2 Co-Op Footage
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0:00 Intro
0:48 New Super Mario Bros.
8:17 New Super Mario Bros. Wii
18:28 New Super Mario Bros. 2
26:51 New Super Mario Bros. U
36:45 New Super Luigi U
41:32 New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
45:03 Outro
Music Used:
"Staff Roll" from New Super Mario Bros.
"Walking the Plains" from New Super Mario Bros.
"Mushroom Waltz" from New Super Mario Bros.
"Underground Theme" from New Super Mario Bros.
"World 7" from New Super Mario Bros.
"Special World 9" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"Overworld" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"Beach" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"Castle Boss" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"World 1 Map" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"Credits" from New Super Mario Bros. Wii
"Title Screen" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"World 1 (Leaf)" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"Underground (Gold Ring)" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"World 9 (Map" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"World 2 (Leaf)" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"Staff Roll" from New Super Mario Bros. 2
"Superstar Road" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Acorn Plains (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Meringue Clouds (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Sparkling Waters (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Credits Roll" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Sparkling Waters (map)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Enemy Challenge" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Soda Jungle (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Frosted Glacier (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Peach's Castle (level)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
"Menu (Choose Challenge)" from New Super Mario Bros. U
#newsupermariobrosu #newsupermariobros #mario #supermario #newsupermariobrosu #supermariowonder - Ігри
Little fact: Apparently, NSMB2 was supposed to be a sequel to the DS game, which is why it plays similarly, has the Mega Mushroom, and is called 2 despite being the third game.
Isn't that kinda obvious
@@mbii7667 yeah. I have never understood why people get confused about this game having the number 2 instead of 3 since it obviously means that it is the second one on the ds
@@haroeneissa790 exactly
When i was younger i didn't know about the existence of the ds new super mario bros so when i saw the commercial for nsmb2 i thought it was a sequel to the wii game
@@mbii7667Get off your high horse
Even though U Delux was just a cash grab, the super crown power up broke the internet to the point of increasing Nintendo's actions value when Bowsette was made by the fans, this was one of the best accidents Nintendo ever made.
It’s kind of ironic how the series went from new to NEW like Scott once said it’s new milk but it’s also expired
Who scott
@@Comicsxco Scott The Woz
@@bluejay21. no scott cawthon
@@Comicsxco If you watch Scott The Woz's episode on the series, it's "figuratively" there via joke.
@@bluejay21. I do watch him
As a guy who had grown up with nsmbw, i say that every nsmb game is fine on it's own because let's be honest they are far from being horrible or bad at all, all of them are still fun to pickup and play , it's like they're the comfort 2D mario games whom don't offer to much originality and they're not meant to be super ambitious but still decent enough to play at least to myself
Yeah. not bad, but they all feel the same in a good way.
Like you said, it's pretty much a "con" ppl that love Mario games can live with, but also if you only ever play 1 you don't miss out on much
@@SplendidNinja true
@Ademhadji653 I would say more so towards DS & Wii cause they were acceptable. Afterwards, they become the samey game with no ambitious.
@@jaretco6423 very true, but my point still holds the newer ones just lack originality that's it other than that they still have content like coin rush, missions.....etc
I’m sorry you grew up on them
I can understand why Nintendo capitalized on this series. When NSMB DS was released, it was a reboot of the 2D Mario series that everybody didn’t know they needed. It had high rocket sales and the fans just can’t get enough because again, it’s easy to play and it’s FUN. People didn’t really get tired of it even until NSMBU deluxe, you’ll see a decline in sales but still it was selling 10s of millions of copies. That’s the power of MARIO
Funfact: level 1-1 is the best level to get a mega mushroom in your pockect by simply letting the shroom walk towards the bricks. Once under the bricks, pick the shroom as close to them and voilà, the shroom will go to your pocket since you don't have the space to grow
So you can now use the mega mushroom anywhere you want. It's super OP against Bowser jr and it's fun to use it on the final boss
Wouldn't you Break these bricks while growing ?
@@tarekcat1 nope. The game thinks that you're still small so the bricks don't break.
However, you don't have the space to grow. To not waste the power, it goes to your pocket and remain small
It never occurred to me you could naturally put a mega mushroom in your inventory outside the houses. Wow!
It’s a crime you didn’t talk about the final boss in the Wii section
It’s kinda surreal knowing New Super Mario Bros. U was my first ever platformer and yet many consider it to be the most underwhelming.
It’s kind of just Wii, but HD didn’t do a lot really and also the fact that they tried to make the world map like super Mario world with dinosaur land by combining every single average Mario world into one which is so weird.
@@LAQL31I can understand that. U at its core really is just an alternative version of Wii.
U deluxe was mine 💀
I think DS was my first but U is the one I mainly remember as a kid.
2 was my first Mario platformer and not even nostalgia bias will the save that game from me
New Super Mario Bros. Wii is a tough game. Old school tough. So you better bring your butt-stomping A-game, as this will test even the most seasoned platforming veterans.
Some of the World 9 levels, yeah. Other parts of the game: not so much.
Yeah no just some world 9 levels all the levels are so spaced out and empty for 4 players so when you play by yourself it becomes apparent
No it is not.
@@Neo-Metal17 yuh it is
@@levi7126 No this game is not "Old school hard" it's not even "new school hard" it's easy-medium.
The original NSMB was a return to 2D Mario while adding elements such as Wall Jumps, Triple Jumps, and Ground Pound in the levels.
NSMBW added new power ups, secrets, multiplayer, and more levels.
NSMB2 added.... coins.
NSMBU added.... the same aspects as the Wii version except HD.
NSMBU added the connected world map the acorn suit (which is the best power up in the nsmb series right behind the mega mushroom blue shell and propeller musheoom) and luigi u which is the best nsmb game right behind ds and it had agruably more enjoyable levels and you didn't need multiplayer to have fun and challenge and boost rush mode. And it had a slight change in the plot where instead of peach getting kidnapped the castle gets taken over. You just never played U so you just assume that its just the same as wii. But nsmb2 is underrated but still the most unoriginal and it also had only 4 original soundtracks so yeah it's obviously the worst out of the nsmb games.
@Milesishere484 Never played it!?!?! Buddy, if UA-cam can manage to add images to this text, I could easily show you I've played NSMBU AND NSLU.
And yes, connected worlds was clever but the levels weren't all that memorable. It was New Super Mario Bros again for the 4th time and it already got stale. I'll give NSLU a pass because the levels were difficult which made it fun to play through. But don't ever assume I never played a Mario game. Especially NSMBU.
@@captainseg got it but yeah i was just tryna show that it was more then an hd reskin of wii but yeah i agree with it not being that memorable and yeah it was getting kinda stale so you have a point.
@Milesishere484 Actually, Super Mario World started the worlds being connected. As well as Land 2: Six Golden Coins where you can also tackle any worlds you want. So yeah. That doesn't count.
@@jaretco6423ik that.
It sucks because I WANT more 2d Mario platformers. Wonder is great. Mario vs Donkey Kong is great.
But the concept is exhausted and I’m sure everyone except me is done with it.
Like the 3d platformers are all different and beloved. Sm64, sunshine, galaxy, 3d world and wonder. Why can’t we have that variation with 2d games?
The first three Mario nes games were beloved because they were all different and weren’t afraid to take new ground. Super mushrooms, fire flowers, turnips, throwing, tanuki leaf.
While the "new" series went downhill in sales and demand, I find the games in the series mostly improved as it went on. My favorites from the series was the Wii U one as well as Luigi U. I can understand those who say that the games got stale really quick, and I mostly agree...mostly with the graphics and world themes...but if you look at each one objectively, together and apart, it's easy to see how they got better as they went on. I am happy they ended though when they did.
I agree with everything you said here, except for the very last thing. I'm disappointed with Wonder. It's not a bad game, but it's not really challenging.
@@TheRealNintendoKid ok, but Wonder isn't part of the "new" Mario series.
The downfall of 3D Sonic. It started in 1999
AS SOMEONE WHO GREW UP WITH NSMB 1 AND 2 I MISS THIS SEIRIES
This was a really fun video to watch. The "New Super Mario Bros" Series has a very special place in my heart. The first game in the series I played was New Super Mario Bros Wii and it was also one of the first video games I ever played. Ever since I played "NSMB Wii", I played every other game in the series. After playing through them all, in the end, my favorite game in the series is a tie between New Super Mario Bros Wii and New Super Mario Bros 2. The nostalgia and memories of these games hit me like a brick. I still play the games in the series and love them all to this very day... I wish this series comes back one day...
This video made my entire day, and it was overall an extremely well done video!!
Keep up the good work SF!!! 👍
I'm rooting for you!
New Super Mario Bros. 2 is my favorite game in the NSMB game, I don’t know why. Maybe because I find the collecting coins gimmick to be really fun
The hate that New Super Mario Bros. gets is similar to the hate that Illumination, Teen Titans Go and modern Family Guy gets. It's not so much the "you are the worst piece of media I have ever seen" type of hate, but more the "you can do better than that, but you chose the bare minimum and the general public rewards you for it" type of hate.
The reason these games get the bad reputation that they have is more on the fact that they are barely indistinguishable from each other and just lack a sense of identity to get you to revisit them. They're predictable, but they're "safe" since they're just regular 2D Mario games so everyone knows what to expect from them. By the time the Switch came around it would have been expected to get a proper "new" 2D Mario, but instead we got a watered-down port of NSMBU with barely anything changed, making that the final nail to this sub-series' coffin.
Compare this to SMB3, World, 64, Galaxy, Odyssey and even Wonder which are considered fan favourites, and that's in large part to how they actually feel unique from other Mario games, had unpredictability within their gameplay giving large replay value and don't feel like soulless cash grabs. Those games felt like they were made as passion projects by a team of developers who had big imaginations and not some corporate mandate that took the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" to heart.
New Super Mario Bros. U was NOT pointless, the whole point of it was to make sure more people had access to it because the Wii U didn’t sell very well.
I don't know what it is, but I've always loved all of the games... No matter how much they reused, each game had something that made me want to go back to it. I honestly dont know what those things are, though... (Except Luigi U, I love the challenge)
All I really hate personally is going between the handheld and console games because I keep thinking i have the spin jump which results in having to replace my 3DS's top screen
2:00 Nice music sync!
Wonder is still absolutely a NSMB game. It just has more "new" things, ironically.
You said the spin jump was removed for NSMB2 because it was only in the Wii version to solve a problem that wasn't there anymore and that you'd talk about it later, but I don't remember you bringing it up again
I was alluding to the fact that the level design is more compact in NSMB2, thus there was no need for it because there's less empty space to cover. Sorry for the confusion lol
So this is what u were workin on for so long
@@caseykm1405 yessir
there is no downfall bc that series is still good
NSMBWii is by far the greatest 2D mario game untill wonder came out.
Smb3 smb world nsmb ds nslu smb2 are better then nsmbw in almost every single way.
I consider Wonder as a reboot to the New series
Fans: What inspired you to make a handheld New Super Mario Bros. game around the same time as the console one?
Nintendo: Money!
Ironic thing is that the Handheld one was mostly about collecting money
While some may have less then stellar feelings for these games overall these games are fantastic to me personally and to my friends and family. Also a little laughable that while some may say these games are getting stale and repetitive it's a little more then laughable as these games have sold a ton of copies as fans have been there for these games when released. I still remember when buying my copy of New Super Mario Bros.U for the Wii U and the person in front of me was complaining about the game being just another clone of the past game. I commented back to the person "If it's a clone game you're tired of then why are you buying the game too as the person had a a copy in their hand and the cashier was ringing them up" said person quickly shut up after that.
New Super Mario Bros Wii was the very first Game I've ever played it's what began my love for Video Games still to this day I love NSMB Wii and I'll play it whenever I get a chance.
I've played trough every NSMB game and I have to say: not many game series can use the same level themes, same music, same enemues and get away with it. Solid platformers in their own right but some of the most soulless sequels I've ever played.
I had the first game back when I was using an Action Replay on my DS. I loved having the blue shell power up always in my pocket. I can't believe it only appears in 1
Still think that Mario U slaps only because of that Van Gogh level.
As much I kinda love this series, letting it go and making creative 2D Mario games again was the smartest choice on Nintendo's part.
They are ALL creative and they are ALL great games. Every single one, even the ones you hate.
@benmalsky9834 No. Not all of them. New Super Mario Bros games aren't bad. But there not that great. DS gets an pass cause it was " new ". But the ones afterwards aren't that special nor great.
Well, at least New Super Mario Bros didn't pull a Sonic 4 where it attempted to "go back to the classics" and then force a game out on an incomplete/lacking game engine where the first episode was so bad that it ended after only 2 episodes.
Side Note: It would be awesome if there was a game where Sonic and Mario team up together against Eggman and Bowser or some new enemy. It could be called "Super Mario and Sonic: [Include catching subtitle here]". Not the Olympic games.
They were no Wonder back then.
Mario DS is the best one and I will not hear otherwise (im nostalgia blind)
Agreed.
Well your def not as nostalgia blind as the people who think wii is the best in the series.
I love new super Mario bros
I honestly don’t understand the hatred for the New Super Mario Bros. games online. These games are targeted towards a modern generation of Mario fans and game players, and are designed with casual gamers in mind. On top of that, not everyone owns every Nintendo system, so I respect the decision to make a new game with every new system. These games are fundamentally very good, as with every Mario game really. Also, I STRONGLY disagree with the notion that NSMBU Deluxe is some sort of “cash grab”, its main purpose was to allow people who didn’t own the Wii U (it’s user base was very small compared to the Switch) to experience the game. It paid off to as it’s considered a must-have Switch game. I think that it’s only the saltiness of people who dislike these games, everyone else can appreciate them for being quintessential Mario.
I wanna see the downfall of New Super Mario Bros. But each time he says new it gets faster.
Listen I love this series mostly due to the fact I grew up with it and they were my first platformers, but I am so glad we moved on. Wonder is an amazing game, and i seriously hope that 2d mario keeps re-inventing itself as it did for the first time in almost two to three decades
“Daring today aren’t we?”
I love the OG new Super Mario bros game so many memories
2 confuses me with one design decision. The goal is to get so many coins, but getting 100 still gives you an extra life. And there are 1 up houses. I mean really? Who is that devoid of lives that they need to go to a 1up house in 2?
Actually, you can still play as both yellow and blue toad in multiplayer, i tried it, you just need someone to select blue toad first.
just tried this and it didnt work
@@SFproductions1 I could have sworn it worked, the fact that you can't play as both simultaneously when the original version let you is really stupid
There is major significant in regards to Super Mario Land 2 being the last original 2d Mario game for 14 years.
I do hope after Mario Wonder every 2D Mario game will have a lot creativity Wonder was just perfect if you ask me sure the bosses kinda suck but the game had high highs for me to ignore
Agreed.
Per an Iwata Asks, NSMBU was developed by the veteran Mario team while NSMB2 was developed by a newer team to teach newer employees about the development of Super Mario games.
The wii and wiiu (deluxe) is my two personal favorite but is so sad that the helicopter suit barley makes it into wiiu as a secret power up but super mario maker 1 and two has that so i could fly my butt of
It never fell, they just change styles every "generation" of Mario games. We had the Classical Super Mario generation (1 to World) then New Super (DS to Deluxe), 3D (Land and World) and now we have whatever the Wonder generation will be. I'm not expecting 4 to 5 exact games but more likely just a couple in a new, unique painter's style as it's currently a trend to make new games out of old things. I call these generations because they're all groupable that way.
This was a great video. New Super Mario Bros use to be so good but over the years they have fell.
I wouldn't say fell but rather it became stale.
They are ALL good!
What made me not get NSMB2 at the time and still baffles me, is why would you make a game centered around collecting coins and then not add a ton of things to spend them on? Then I again, I guess Nintendo does really like just collecting money.
I actually have every game in this series (except the remaster) and I like all of them. Such a shame my Mario U + Luigi U disc doesn’t work for some reason, it’s not even scratched.
Donkey Kong Country Returns & Tropical Freeze were shining examples of sidescrollers during the whole New Super Mario Bros era.
It didn't matter much to me that Mario was stale, because DKC was back and better than ever... Of course that didn't last long, but it was nice while it lasted.
Wow , now this is a big video , you definitely deserve a break after this work !
Hope you enjoyed it!
I kinda remember there being a pattern with the panel minigame in wii and 9 out of 10 times we would get all the power ups
Was this private and now public because for me it says 1 min ago but there are comments 1 day ago
yes it was available for members first
@@SFproductions1 oh ok
I didn't understand why Peach was connected to Toadette. I believe Toadette should have been her own character remaining completely removed from Peach.
Nice job I can say, to be honest I thought you wouldn't say anything new for NSMBUD because I have 100% completed it, but when you said that blue toad is in there I was honestly shocked because for the longest time I thought that he was just replaced by toadette but it seems that there are still things to learn :) Good job once again with the video, I was waiting for it for so long.
Mario bros wii was my first video game ever and is the best version by far.
Yeahhh no ds and luigi u and nsmbu are better but its your opinion and I can't change that
42:54 "Only Toadette can use that!" WHY'D YOU GIVE IT TO ME THEN? IM LUIGI!!
FACTS
In my opinion there is something very annoying in New Super Mario Bros DS:
There is no way to always get a guaranteed blue shell item, but you need it for so many Star Coins and Secret Exits 🤬!
Luckily they never did something like that again!
Also about New Super Mario Bros U DX Price: the Wii U version was only for 25$ as the Selects Version, so for removed content they charge more then double the price
36:56 The Year of Luigi also included Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, featuring Luigi’s dreams of multitude and magnitude.
Been a New Super Mario bros fan since the wii version. To me that just feels like the most classic one, but hopefully there is a resurgence with more games like SMW.
You know, I thought you were gonna make a video about just how new super Mario Bros DS is more original than literally every other game, but this is still a nice video to recap on it.
You can only say "Welcome back to (nostalgic thing)" so many times in a short period of time before it gets stale.
Bro...did we have the same childhood? I mean shoot I called the propeller mushroom a helicopter and of course NSMBWII is my personal favorite due to nostalgia bias like what?
Yoooo
I like New Super Mario Bros 2 because it was my first game
Nabbit is super op
I can't stop watching this, and I don't know why.
23:06 Well, actually, there is a mountain theme, but it's combined with the cloud theme in World 5.
They didn't evn bother to incorporate the coin collecting into NSMB2's story. It feels completely tacked on and more like something you would do in a Wario game.
New Super Mario Bros has fallen
The modding community for nsmbwii is insane and it makes me love the game so much more, I hope it never dies. It's funny because I learned how to install riivolution on the wii with your tutorial over four years ago, so, I have no one to thank for being able to play nsmbwii mods but you, SF.
The only reason I play as Toadette in Deluxe is because she is just a girl like me, however it would've been nice if she was also playable in normal mode
Nintendo just had to follow up on Super Mario World.
What was so complicated about that for them?
There just isn't much innovation until mario wonder.
New super Mario bros 2 is my guilty pleasure I’ll admit it
The good part about NSMBUD is that it was available on Switch. I didn’t ever have a WiiU so that’s how I played it. I still play the other two on the 3DS they’re great games. Good video
The mega mushroom was made to one hit bowser in the final level of the game 😁
Loved your opinions and take on the franchise. I haven’t really played any 2D Mario games since NSMBU all those years ago and haven’t kept up with the franchise since then, but your video and explanations made it super enjoyable to watch and restored many nostalgic memories I had, having played most of these games as a young kid. I would really love to see a video on you talking about SPMB Wonder, as I don’t know much about the game and just would love to hear your opinions on it 😊
Thanks! I definitely want to make a video on Mario Wonder one day
that seems..... not fun
That hidden star coin is hilarious
The mini mushroom is in wii 10:36
NSMB DS was my first Mario game and this game is absolutely amazing! But I find it really weird how Nintendo kept making NSMB instead of making a new one, it's been too many years but at least we finally got SMBW
Hey SF,do you know about sonic speed simulator and make a video of the history I would love it!
Even though super Mario bros wonder is the start of a new 2d Mario, I still want them to go back to the previous formula but make some changes. I wouldn’t mind if we get dlc for nsmbu deluxe, nsmb 3, or a nsm world game. I seriously want them to do that. Maybe if they release a new super Mario all stars containing the original, Wii version, and 3ds version, they could include never before released games.
I saw a review of the game that came after the new soup series a couple days ago, and suffice to say it makes this video look like a Stephen Spielberg movie, because while there are some ideas there, there were a lot of things wrong with it. I'm of course talking about Super Mario Bros. Wonder which I'm happy we got, because it laid the groundwork for a new era of 2D Mario that I'm excited for, for once. But the road to get to that point was something of a journey of disconnect between Nintendo and their hardcore audience who're now old and can beat these games blindfolded.
So if I had to personally rank each of the New Soup games, it would go New Super Mario Bros. U/Deluxe, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, New Super Mario Bros. DS, and New Super Luigi. U respectively.
While I admit Super Mario Bros. Wonder is conflicting in a lot of areas, it's not a bad game like some older Mario fans are gaslighting newer fans into believing, because Wonder has something going for it besides pretty animation and a new location, and that something is variety in level types. And I don't just mean the Wonder Flower either. It's kinda like going from looking at a Spruce Tree, to a Christmas Tree.
I'd still go play the Newer Soup games by the Newer Team, because fans are better at making games than even the most talented staff at Nintendo sometimes.
I will say the final boss in nsmb wii was great.
True
@@SFproductions1 no screw that, it was awesome!!!
It would seems that Nintendo realised that a consistent and stable product makes just as much money and is cheaper to produce. Though Super Mario Bros. Wonder may take some different approaches, it still retains the same general visual style that is instantly recognisable. Safe, but lacking innovation. That doesn't sounds like the Nintendo I know...
I remember in high-school or even intermediate school we had mini tournaments for mario vs luigi, good old days
They kept the NEW in the title way too long.
That is perhaps the biggest flaw with calling anything return to form as "new", most often it gets old really quickly.
The problem with the series is when NSMB 2 and Wii U came in. They felt like nothing but rehashes. The one problem about the Wii U game is that no one notices is that the Wii U game is the first Super Mario Bros. games to be a launch title for a new Nintendo console since Super Mario 64 and the Wii U game was the best they could come up with.
This series was a mixed bag for me. I had fun with all of the games individually. Especially NSMBU's Luigi expansion. But they did as a series kind of fall into a rut when taking all four games as a whole. Still, I'm glad they exist and had fun with the, especially the Luigi one.
New Super Mario Bros is one of my most favorite Mario series
40:02 bruh that still got me dead to this day
I grew up on the original new super Mario Bros on the Nintendo DS
Still my favourite game serie
A 46 minute video? Time to get my food, my drink and sit back and relax and enjoy the show.
Nah fr tho you definitely deserve a break.
I THOUGHT i was the only one who called it helicopter head
1:59 the jumping synched with the music
I actually liked to be the guy on the GamePad. I was able to help my friends, but also troll them. I was a bit disappointed it didn't come back on the Switch port, although it makes sense.