Sonic Frontiers is named "Sonic Rangers" internally, according to the name of the game's .acf sound archive file. This title also appeared in the metadata of the game's first teaser, and in a SEGA press release on May 27th, 2021.
@FanYTXP Kishimoto said it was a canceled Sonic game before the open world idea. He said the game changed but they never bothered changing the code name
Glad to see Sonic Rose not specifically mentioned, because that WAS real, though not very signifigant. It was more of an internal (and semi-internal) survey-stage code name for Sonic Frontiers, and as such a certain list of possible features. The issue there is that at such stage it's so much just spit-balling that everythng is subject to change. But people get weirdly religious about a word, like it's the True Name of a dargon and these people are inhaling too much Ursula Le Guin. Sort of like people unironically say Metroid Dread was "picked back up again" and now it's a game 15 years in development. When literally it's just a word they figured "well, still as fine a name as ever". Games will literally be named ANYTHING that marketing things will sell, it's about as meaningful as the color of the box.
The 4chan leaks on Sonic Frontiers were true 75% of the time, they even got sage and sonic's friends returning right, the only fumble was that the story was gonna be _way_ darker than it ended hp being (Smth about sonic living in a simulation and finding out that in the end)
Shadow 05 actually didn’t flop that badly, it made at least 2.06 million, it sold under expectations but it didn’t sell poorly, just not good enough to greenlight a sequel
I remember the Sonic Dimensions one really annoying me, not only because there was no concrete evidence to support it, but at the time I remember reading multiple articles of people badmouthing Sonic games, most notably Sonic's friends by calling them "unimaginative, poorly thought out recolours of Sonic!" Yet this was apparently a game that literally had actual recolours of Sonic and people were getting excited for it? I'd personally take any of Sonic's friends as playable characters over that! It not only sounded boring, but like the Werehogs and the Wisps before it, it just sounded like a cheap alternative to keep the "Sonic's stupid friends" crowd happy! I also remember back when Project Needlemouse was first announced. Not only were fans convinced that it was going to be the "long awaited" Sonic 4, they were convinced that it was going to bring back Sonic's older design, and it was going to serve as a complete retcon of every Sonic game from Sonic Adventure onwards, but many fans were also 100% convinced that it was going to be a launch game for a brand upcoming new Sega console. Rumours surrounding a project at Sega called "the Ring Edge" or something was apparently "proof" of that! And boy, did these whiney fan boys throw the mother of all hissy fits when only thing that turned out to be true was the title! And it honestly feels like Sega's over reliance on Classic Sonic and nostalgia is Sega's way of overcompensating for all of the whiney complaints people had about that game.
*Honestly, the only one of these that got me was about Sonic being in Smash Bros Melee.* You have no idea the disappointment I had in my heart when I found out it wasn't true... after trying for hours 😅
Sonic Dimensions was my idea for a Sonic game. But it had a different story and some of Boom Sonic's abilities because of Tails' new device Sonic uses in Dimensions.
I remember when the original teaser for Sonic Frontiers came out, there was a popular hoax that the game was called "Sonic Rangers" and was gonna see Sonic dimension hopping and such. I actually believed that for a time, not too long but for a time.
These are interesting, and I like that they test how much people will believe. Though, I'm glad this stuff is taken with a grain of salt as it should be. It's good to know what's outlandish and what's realistic.
on the 2015 toy fair thing, boom was meant to come out in 2015 and be multi platform, but seg forced them to make it wii u only and nintendo's contract stated it had to come out 2014, no exceptions. it was very likely to be about boom, or synergy as it was called back then,
back in 2021 i was 12, and i was so desperate to see a new sonic 3D game to be announced, i remember vividly seeing a lot of sonic youtubers covering the leaks and giving their thoughts about it. when the first sonic frontiers teaser was revealed, i thought the game would be called "Sonic Zap" because of that symbol that is all around the map in frontiers that appeared in the end of the teaser, and that looked like it was written "Zap" on it. thanks god that wasn't the name of the game bc it's not a very good title, but i just remember being so hyped for it i didn't even care. when the gameplay was revealed, i remember starting to get worried about the quality of frontiers, but i was still very hopeful until the actual release. i just played the game last year because my family is very poor financially, but i had an absolute blast playing the game after all that pre-release hype. got to be one of my favorite sonic games :)
4:37 That wasn't always the case. It was originally supposed to be exclusively on PS4 and Xbox One, but SEGA signed a 3-game exclusivity deal with Nintendo mid decelopment without consulting the developers. It's actually the reason the Wii U version ran so poorly.
There was this one video I vaguely remember that was showing off screenshots and box art of "Sonic Galaxy" for the Wii. It was abviously fake and the renders were amateur. I can't seem to find the video or pictures from it, so I assume it was deleted
The 2015 multiplatform game refers to the canceled Sonic Synergy. It was the game that could've been released instead of Sonic Boom if Sega hadn't made the exclusive deal with Nintendo, which honestly I'm disappointed about
You took the book said a hoax then a teacher with a very long stick which causes very painful damage to your friend showing fake hoaxes sf productions at the elemantry school
@@SFproductions1 holy crap dude! I had the best night ever just binge watching all of your content for hours. Dude im hooked on your stuff. Keep up the great work!
I remember some one ask in elektronik geaming monthly why it don't work so elektronik geaming monthly feel sorry so they give him a copy of sonic adventure 2 batel bisa
Was sonic really going to be in Melee. Dreamcast was still trying to survive at that time. And even then I doubt at the time of development Nintendo would've been cool with it.
Technically SF can we make a joke and call sonic forces a hoax because one of the headlines of the trailer was from the people who brought u colors and generations and turns out it was newb level designers
4:32 actually the developers of sonic boom weren’t told it was a Nintendo exclusive until around 8-9 months before its release date, making the devs rush to port it onto a new engine. It was actually supposed to be high quality with amazing graphics for the newer consoles, but once they were told it was a Wii U exclusive, they rushed to lower the quality a lot. This was probably a big reason Sonic boom turned out the way it did. Good job sega!
The 'telltale' pitch is more of the style of old adventure games like Monkey Island, Sam and Max Hit the Road, and others. They're slower paced games more focused on dialogue and item management, but they're not bad games because of it.
Oh I been saying this nonsense for a while and I’m like guys don’t believe these people on the internet. There have been a lot of Sonic Hoaxes in the Sonic Series. It’s just so weird how people just were hyping people up by thinking that Sonic Runners was going to be on console even though the game release on mobile. I just hate how people believe like anything they see. Great video SF Productions)
Shadow The Hedgehog didn't 'flop', it sold well enough to get a Greatest Hits release. You can say you didn't like the game but that's not the same as 'the game flopped' no it sold decently well. People just like to bash it as they hate fun.
You want to know a funny thing? Most of the poor reviews seemed to come from the bad PS2 port. The one that wasn't (that is linked at Wikipedia) barely goes indepth about the game at all.
I am honestly a bit saddened by how much harder it is to get away with gaming urban legends these days. Stuff like finding Mew under the truck in the original Pokemon games or being able to unlock Shadow in Sonic Advance. These old urban legends may have been total BS most of the time, but it was a lot harder to fact check them and so they inspired the imagination and gave gaming as a whole a much more magical feel where anything might be possible. That magic is largely gone now. Fake leaks are much more easily debunked and fake rumors about games already out are even more easily debunked by dataminers and completionists. It's a positive in that there's less deception going around that anyone is getting away with, but I also see it as a negative in that the magic behind games is disappearing and they're becoming little more in our minds than just lines of code. Even stuff like glitches used to be a lot more fun. These days glitches are heavily more frowned upon and less tolerated, largely because of shoddy AAA releases. The only glitches anyone even likes anymore are the ones with speedrun strat potential, and even those rarely survive update patches.
Yk I think we can agree sonic lost world is fine until the last 2 zones Sky zone and lava mountain because bruh they punish you so hard just for 1 mistake like lava mountain I don’t need to explain because of Act 2 Sky road copy’s Windy hill and Desert ruins in act 1 and 4 besides that Sonic Lost world is fine not terrible but could be faster and what’s better in the Wii U and PC version is the wisps are mostly optional. Overall I give sonic lost world a 6. (My opinion) I just wanted to say my thoughts on Sonic Lost world after seeing your latest short 3ds rating tho is 2/10
Can You Put Those New Sonic Characters in Sonic X Like Blaze the Cat, Marine the Raccoon, Silver the Hedgehog, Eggman Nega, Sonic the Werehog & Chip, Jet the Hawk and Wave the Swallow
Great video man! Even if we΄re talking about scenarios that were never meant to be it is always fun to dive into the "what if" ! Speaking of "what ifs" would it be easy for you to make a video on the hidden ending of Sonic 06? I am aware that the achievement which implied the said ending is earned by S ranking the last story, however i am sure everyone would love to have more insight on this mystery!
Thank you my man! It really is! There is this achievement called "Nights of Kronos" the description of which might say something about unlocking the complete ending to the last hidden story. Since the day of release though until today of course this trophy is literally unlocked just by s ranking the end of the world. I should point out the "might say" i used earlier. I think the description varies among the copies of the game. Personally i remember myself vividly s ranking the end of the world and earning the trophy on the 360 with the description of the hidden ending. However after a quick search i saw that many people earned the trophy with the actual description of the s ranking requirement. You could say that it is quite the rabbit hole ahaha @@SFproductions1
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Sonic Frontiers is named "Sonic Rangers" internally, according to the name of the game's .acf sound archive file. This title also appeared in the metadata of the game's first teaser, and in a SEGA press release on May 27th, 2021.
I literally just commented about this a minute ago, though I didn't know Rangers was actually somewhat true, just thought it was a straight up rumour.
@@koolaid33 yeah i don't know why's this name was changed?
@FanYTXP Kishimoto said it was a canceled Sonic game before the open world idea. He said the game changed but they never bothered changing the code name
Glad to see Sonic Rose not specifically mentioned, because that WAS real, though not very signifigant. It was more of an internal (and semi-internal) survey-stage code name for Sonic Frontiers, and as such a certain list of possible features. The issue there is that at such stage it's so much just spit-balling that everythng is subject to change.
But people get weirdly religious about a word, like it's the True Name of a dargon and these people are inhaling too much Ursula Le Guin. Sort of like people unironically say Metroid Dread was "picked back up again" and now it's a game 15 years in development. When literally it's just a word they figured "well, still as fine a name as ever". Games will literally be named ANYTHING that marketing things will sell, it's about as meaningful as the color of the box.
This is old Sonic Frontiers name in Sonic Central 2021, In teaser trailer of the Game.
The 4chan leaks on Sonic Frontiers were true 75% of the time, they even got sage and sonic's friends returning right, the only fumble was that the story was gonna be _way_ darker than it ended hp being (Smth about sonic living in a simulation and finding out that in the end)
I hate Sonic hoaxes, they're so cringy w/ these wishes that are turned into game synopses...
Shadow 05 actually didn’t flop that badly, it made at least 2.06 million, it sold under expectations but it didn’t sell poorly, just not good enough to greenlight a sequel
Yeah, it actually like...did fine.
Frontiers Pre-Release was so fucking fun and crazy man. I still remember the Strip Club Open Zone rumor.
The What?!
Huh?
ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!
That one came from a satirical website
I’ve seen way too many of these as a kid…wait since when was I a member?!
I’m pretty sure sonic dimensions exist but it’s a lego game I remember seeing a sonic lego minifigure in a Best Buy years ago
I think thats lego dimension, the Sonic pack
0:27 ain’t no way is that modern classic sonic? 🤯
That shit was cursed 💀
I never knew Sonic had hoaxes!?!? I think the only one thing I remember from him was him and tails being in melee
I remember the Sonic Dimensions one really annoying me, not only because there was no concrete evidence to support it, but at the time I remember reading multiple articles of people badmouthing Sonic games, most notably Sonic's friends by calling them "unimaginative, poorly thought out recolours of Sonic!" Yet this was apparently a game that literally had actual recolours of Sonic and people were getting excited for it? I'd personally take any of Sonic's friends as playable characters over that! It not only sounded boring, but like the Werehogs and the Wisps before it, it just sounded like a cheap alternative to keep the "Sonic's stupid friends" crowd happy!
I also remember back when Project Needlemouse was first announced. Not only were fans convinced that it was going to be the "long awaited" Sonic 4, they were convinced that it was going to bring back Sonic's older design, and it was going to serve as a complete retcon of every Sonic game from Sonic Adventure onwards, but many fans were also 100% convinced that it was going to be a launch game for a brand upcoming new Sega console. Rumours surrounding a project at Sega called "the Ring Edge" or something was apparently "proof" of that! And boy, did these whiney fan boys throw the mother of all hissy fits when only thing that turned out to be true was the title! And it honestly feels like Sega's over reliance on Classic Sonic and nostalgia is Sega's way of overcompensating for all of the whiney complaints people had about that game.
*Honestly, the only one of these that got me was about Sonic being in Smash Bros Melee.* You have no idea the disappointment I had in my heart when I found out it wasn't true... after trying for hours 😅
Sonic Dimensions was my idea for a Sonic game. But it had a different story and some of Boom Sonic's abilities because of Tails' new device Sonic uses in Dimensions.
You can count that Sonic Superstars Plus Leak recently too maybe
I think some of the leaks from the past were really convincing because I am really gullible lol
Love the video 😁
I remember when the original teaser for Sonic Frontiers came out, there was a popular hoax that the game was called "Sonic Rangers" and was gonna see Sonic dimension hopping and such. I actually believed that for a time, not too long but for a time.
The name Sonic Rangers wasn’t actually a hoax. That was the original title before release.
Sonic Rangers was the actual code name…
@@LittleLexi24 Wait, really? Neat.
First time I’ve ever been a channel member
Good vid
These are interesting, and I like that they test how much people will believe. Though, I'm glad this stuff is taken with a grain of salt as it should be. It's good to know what's outlandish and what's realistic.
on the 2015 toy fair thing, boom was meant to come out in 2015 and be multi platform, but seg forced them to make it wii u only and nintendo's contract stated it had to come out 2014, no exceptions. it was very likely to be about boom, or synergy as it was called back then,
back in 2021 i was 12, and i was so desperate to see a new sonic 3D game to be announced, i remember vividly seeing a lot of sonic youtubers covering the leaks and giving their thoughts about it. when the first sonic frontiers teaser was revealed, i thought the game would be called "Sonic Zap" because of that symbol that is all around the map in frontiers that appeared in the end of the teaser, and that looked like it was written "Zap" on it. thanks god that wasn't the name of the game bc it's not a very good title, but i just remember being so hyped for it i didn't even care. when the gameplay was revealed, i remember starting to get worried about the quality of frontiers, but i was still very hopeful until the actual release. i just played the game last year because my family is very poor financially, but i had an absolute blast playing the game after all that pre-release hype. got to be one of my favorite sonic games :)
4:37 That wasn't always the case. It was originally supposed to be exclusively on PS4 and Xbox One, but SEGA signed a 3-game exclusivity deal with Nintendo mid decelopment without consulting the developers. It's actually the reason the Wii U version ran so poorly.
Imagine we actually get a Silver spinoff in 2025.
"Boy, do i love me some good Sonic games! But do you know what i like even more? Fake Sonic games!!"
*You know what? Me too.*
There was this one video I vaguely remember that was showing off screenshots and box art of "Sonic Galaxy" for the Wii. It was abviously fake and the renders were amateur.
I can't seem to find the video or pictures from it, so I assume it was deleted
Just found out i was gifted a membership lol so i might aswell use it 😂
It is fun looking back at fake leaks
The 2015 multiplatform game refers to the canceled Sonic Synergy. It was the game that could've been released instead of Sonic Boom if Sega hadn't made the exclusive deal with Nintendo, which honestly I'm disappointed about
Can't wait to watch this vid!
😂 the fact that there is a silver BASED game it’s hilarious you said that
I mean ppl are speculating when the next mainline sonic game will come out and frontiers came out in 2022 so like 😭
I remember there was a fake game leak called Sonic Rift in 2021
I remember one hoax was a 4th season of Sonic X with Silver, Blaze, and Mephiles and I believed it back before the 2010’s
Lmao i remember when i did some leaks myself in twitter(you even replied in some lol) but the acount got permanently banned lol
You took the book said a hoax then a teacher with a very long stick which causes very painful damage to your friend showing fake hoaxes sf productions at the elemantry school
6:08 you can actuaally tell thats fake as it seems to use assets from sonic 2 8 bit
9:57 fin.
I Remember Rift.
Bro im getting stoned asf rn cuz its my 19th birthday and i have no friends and i just gotta say, your videos are the best my guy
Thanks man. Stay safe alright?
@@SFproductions1 holy crap dude! I had the best night ever just binge watching all of your content for hours. Dude im hooked on your stuff. Keep up the great work!
0:28
What is transpiring here lol
I still think rift is frontiers.
Doesn't Sonic Rift date back to 2019?
I don't think so
@@SFproductions1 oh ok
I remember some one ask in elektronik geaming monthly why it don't work so elektronik geaming monthly feel sorry so they give him a copy of sonic adventure 2 batel bisa
Why 32x sonic and knuckles mega cd sonic 3 sonic 3d blast sonic soinball not available in malaysia why
neat
I'm a member?
You are possibly 17 years old
You are like a year older than me
Damn
I am
@@SFproductions1 is crazy to think we could’ve went to the same school lmao
@@Da_Homie_Don lmao true
@@SFproductions1We're the same age but you're better making videos than me, which makes sense
Why are they fake in adult age
I found a fake sonic 3 action figures
And a leak of Rouge
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renember,
Was sonic really going to be in Melee. Dreamcast was still trying to survive at that time. And even then I doubt at the time of development Nintendo would've been cool with it.
Technically SF can we make a joke and call sonic forces a hoax because one of the headlines of the trailer was from the people who brought u colors and generations and turns out it was newb level designers
SONIC FRONTIERS AND SONIC LOST WORLD ARE FAKE
4:32 actually the developers of sonic boom weren’t told it was a Nintendo exclusive until around 8-9 months before its release date, making the devs rush to port it onto a new engine. It was actually supposed to be high quality with amazing graphics for the newer consoles, but once they were told it was a Wii U exclusive, they rushed to lower the quality a lot.
This was probably a big reason Sonic boom turned out the way it did.
Good job sega!
The video I got this from is splash dash’s “the missed potential of sonic boom”
Have you seen early footage of Sonic Boom? it literally just had different lighting thats it. once again sonic revisionists are making shit up lol.
The 'telltale' pitch is more of the style of old adventure games like Monkey Island, Sam and Max Hit the Road, and others. They're slower paced games more focused on dialogue and item management, but they're not bad games because of it.
Oh I been saying this nonsense for a while and I’m like guys don’t believe these people on the internet. There have been a lot of Sonic Hoaxes in the Sonic Series. It’s just so weird how people just were hyping people up by thinking that Sonic Runners was going to be on console even though the game release on mobile. I just hate how people believe like anything they see. Great video SF Productions)
1:13 We actually got an Sonic Dimensions. Lego Dimensions' Sonic Level Pack Dlc is called Sonic Dimensions. Are there parallels?
prolly not
Not really
Shadow The Hedgehog didn't 'flop', it sold well enough to get a Greatest Hits release. You can say you didn't like the game but that's not the same as 'the game flopped' no it sold decently well. People just like to bash it as they hate fun.
You want to know a funny thing? Most of the poor reviews seemed to come from the bad PS2 port. The one that wasn't (that is linked at Wikipedia) barely goes indepth about the game at all.
People also hate bad games, that’s probably why they like to bash it so much, fyi.
@@quangamershyguyyz7166
Me:"What's so bad about it?"
People:"The stuff that we just dealt with in other games. aLsO, ShADoW hAs GUn"
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 Amazingly, not everybody has the same opinion on games.
Good video bro
Thanks gang
I am honestly a bit saddened by how much harder it is to get away with gaming urban legends these days. Stuff like finding Mew under the truck in the original Pokemon games or being able to unlock Shadow in Sonic Advance. These old urban legends may have been total BS most of the time, but it was a lot harder to fact check them and so they inspired the imagination and gave gaming as a whole a much more magical feel where anything might be possible.
That magic is largely gone now. Fake leaks are much more easily debunked and fake rumors about games already out are even more easily debunked by dataminers and completionists. It's a positive in that there's less deception going around that anyone is getting away with, but I also see it as a negative in that the magic behind games is disappearing and they're becoming little more in our minds than just lines of code. Even stuff like glitches used to be a lot more fun. These days glitches are heavily more frowned upon and less tolerated, largely because of shoddy AAA releases. The only glitches anyone even likes anymore are the ones with speedrun strat potential, and even those rarely survive update patches.
You could've included those fake Adventure series remakes that people kept talking about.
Sonic Hoaxes go pretty hard ngl. But fr I remember the whole Sonic Rangers thing and how I was excited man.
That wasn't a hoax. It was just the beta name for frontiers
That wasn’t fake
Frontiers is Rangers
SF Productions is apparently my age? ayee
Sonic Rift sounds like it would make a very good sonic game ngl
You were six in 2012? Dude I'm old
Thanks SF you just made my day uploading sonic hoaxes love your Channel!
love how i knew all of these BUT the sonic runners one lol
1:25 wait, you are 18yrs old?, I thought you were 24
LOL
vividly remember shadow the hedgehog redemption, video brought back some early internet memories
Yk I think we can agree sonic lost world is fine until the last 2 zones Sky zone and lava mountain because bruh they punish you so hard just for 1 mistake like lava mountain I don’t need to explain because of Act 2
Sky road copy’s Windy hill and Desert ruins in act 1 and 4 besides that Sonic Lost world is fine not terrible but could be faster and what’s better in the Wii U and PC version is the wisps are mostly optional. Overall I give sonic lost world a 6. (My opinion) I just wanted to say my thoughts on Sonic Lost world after seeing your latest short 3ds rating tho is 2/10
Holy shit you are 5 years older than me 💀, try not to judge, please
sonic dimensions seems like it could've outclassed every wiiu sonic title
Bruh how could you not mention the iconic Sonic 1 Beta Hoax?
What's waluigi in sm64 ds
No way this dude is 17
Can You Put Those New Sonic Characters in Sonic X Like Blaze the Cat, Marine the Raccoon, Silver the Hedgehog, Eggman Nega, Sonic the Werehog & Chip, Jet the Hawk and Wave the Swallow
Funny thing is, most of the hoax games sound better than most of real games we got in the 2010s
The things people make, right, sonic fans? 😂😂😂
Great video man! Even if we΄re talking about scenarios that were never meant to be it is always fun to dive into the "what if" ! Speaking of "what ifs" would it be easy for you to make a video on the hidden ending of Sonic 06? I am aware that the achievement which implied the said ending is earned by S ranking the last story, however i am sure everyone would love to have more insight on this mystery!
Like was there really a hidden ending planed and if there was what could possibly take place in it? Very interesting stuff
That's a thing?! That sounds awesome I'll totally make that vid
Thank you my man! It really is! There is this achievement called "Nights of Kronos" the description of which might say something about unlocking the complete ending to the last hidden story. Since the day of release though until today of course this trophy is literally unlocked just by s ranking the end of the world. I should point out the "might say" i used earlier. I think the description varies among the copies of the game. Personally i remember myself vividly s ranking the end of the world and earning the trophy on the 360 with the description of the hidden ending. However after a quick search i saw that many people earned the trophy with the actual description of the s ranking requirement. You could say that it is quite the rabbit hole ahaha @@SFproductions1