HOW to FIX Schuberth C5 VISOR and Long Term Review
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2023
- Is the C5 Visor REALLY THAT BAD?? Check out my long term review and how to fix the visor
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Melissa, that is awesome!!! You rock!! Most people present problems but you present solutions!!
@Steven-js8yk aww thanks! I appreciate the comment :) have a great day!
Good tips, thanks! I've been using C3, C3 carbon and Touratech Aventuro Mod (Schuberth E1) for about 10 years, I agree with you with the ratchet pull-tab, it's far too small and short, an absolute pain in winter with thick gloves. My only other gripe is with the "double-glazing" pinlock visor, if/when it gets loose, the first time you notice is after 10 minutes, and by that time you might already be on a motorway with the next exit 20 miles away... Apart from that, best helmets in the world! 😂
Yes! All good points. Thanks for commenting!
I have this issue too, so ordered some o-rings too. Thanks for sharing
Great!! Lemme know how it works for you!
Hey Melissa I actually have a C4 which does exactly the same thing. Even though I prefer the visor down above 60MPH I went ahead and got a box of O rings from Amazon and installed them just as you showed and it worked perfectly so I can avoid the mini heart attack that happens when the visor suddenly slams shut. There are a few other more complicated solutions on YT but yours is the simplest and therefore (imo) the best. You are a very clever and practical person so thanks because this tradesman would not have thought of such an elegant solution. I guess I had better subscribe in case you have other great ideas 🤟
Awww thank you sooooo much :) what a nice comment and thanks so much for watching!!
Brilliant fix for the issue. Have used it and it works great thank you. I’ve watched the video 20 times just to make sure though 😊
I'm so glad!!!! Thanks for watching and commenting :)
Hello,super Visor Trick! I got the C3 pro and its so annoying too. Super simple and clever 😊
Thanks!!
I purchased two C5’s last year, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Mine was a little tight front to back. The pads for long oval heads fixed that. My girlfriend complains about the thickness of the cheek pads. She has complained about her visor not staying up. It didn’t bother me, but I don’t ride with the visor up very often. I will have to add the o-rings.
put the pinlock back! lol! I usually take my new visor out and pop the pinlock in immediately to prevent any dust or fingerprints getting stuck in between and driving me insane. Nice breakdown and glad you dig the helmet
Yeah I didn't want to take it out but I was in a situation where I had to ride at night and with my prescription glasses, pin locks make it so that any light or reflection are huge lines in my vision. It's super hard to see. My plan is just to get a second visor so I can change it out if I'm in a situation like that.
Thanks for tips Melissa. After watching and reading comments I went to my local Ace Hardware and bought #29 "o" ring 1 1/4" ODs 1 1/8" ID. Thin and stretches around visor, plus it's not too big where you go back it comes off. Thought I'd pass this info forward.
Thank you and I'm so glad my video and viewer comments helped you!!!
Great tip! I have a Schuberth SR1 and was looking for an explanation for two black nobs left and right below the transparent pinlock things. Well, I subscribed anyway 😉.C5 is not suitable for me because I ride a lot at high speed on the German Autobahn. Modular Helmets might be enough below 130mph but above I think modular helmets are not safe enough. Keep on making these kind of useful videos! It is not always only about entertainment. Other people helped me countless times by sharing their content, so thumbs up!
Thanks so much for subscribing!!! Welcome :) 😘
Hi Melissa from the UK. Thanks for sharing. I wish I had found this video a year ago, I also have been having this issue . I will be going to my hardware store tomorrow to purchase your recommended 20mm x 2mm O rings. I also have a riding buddy with a C5 will also benefit.
@stixdrive Glad you found my video! My husband and I have been using this fix for well over a year with no difficulties. My husband has started to notice a little deterioration of the plastic of the O rings which we treated with some mineral oil to preserve it a little longer. But considering my husband put over 17,000 miles on his bike last year using the C5 with the O ring...I think that's pretty good longevity. Good luck and happy riding!
Nice fix ,i was thinking of buying that helmet & was worried about the visor problem.
I would say now that it's fixed, it's a near perfect helmet :) good luck with your purchase!
Hi Melissa! I've never experienced that visor issue on my Schuberth C series helmets, but I do seem to read about it often! If it ever becomes an issue, you bet I have saved your extremely helpful tip in my pea brain!! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Happy riding to you!
Hello Melissa, thank you for finding this out. I'll be going to the hardware store tomorrow.
Question for you???
How do you run your microphone through your helmet?
Hi! Good luck with the fix. Lemme know how it goes! I just tried to type out my mic setup and well...it was getting too difficult to type out clearly. I'll make a video and get it out this week for you. Hit the bell so you'll know when it comes out :)
Works perfectly fine! Thank you so much for sharing this brilliant idea - now the C5 is as I expect a helmet in that price range to be…
You're welcome!! Glad it worked!!
Great review!! I returned a Ruroc 4.0 been looking at the shoe and the c5…
Thanks so much! So what do you think you're going to get?
This is so helpful, thank you. I've been trying to figure this out for weeks. What size o-ring did you buy please? I can see the eBay link, but there are lots of size options and yours seems perfect and I'd like to replicate it - thank you again.
20x2mm did the trick :) Lemme know how it goes!
Hi Melissa,
It seems like you also have an early-series helmet, just like me. The early-series helmets had a faulty mechanism, which was later modified. My dealer told me that there's a sort of recall for the helmet, and Schuberth will replace the mechanism under warranty, so I was able to send my helmet back to them. I can't wait to get the helmet back and try it out to see if it has really improved.
Really???? This is the first I've heard this! I'm going to look into this right now! Thank you!
I was looking into this about a week ago and some had claimed that Schuberth didn’t see this as a problem because they weren’t a fan of riding with the visor up. I hope their fix fixes your problem. I’m surprised that any US market helmets were early-series helmets since the helmets were introduced in late 2021 in Europe. The US helmets didn’t arrive until mid 2022. I know that the shell is different on the US helmets. It is possible that the shield mechanism could be different too or they realized that people in the US like riding with the visor open. It does seem silly to have a visor with detents as if it can be in different positions while riding.
Great tip Melissa. Can you tell us if it is now easier or more difficult to "lock" the visor into the tabs on each side in the down position? That is the other issue I have with the C5 visor that sent me to the Neotec 2.
I have no problems with the lock. The only thing that is different is that the memory of the visor being open doesn't work. It's always in the closed position when you open the modular part. But it is still worth it to put the O ring in for me
Thanks for the video.
Has anyone tried putting a bit of grease on the O rings? I'm wondering if that would make a difference to the memory feature working or not and
I have no idea how that works because I don't have access to that helmet, but think I would like one.
The possibility just crossed my mind though.....🤔
In my C5 it works. The visor can finally be opened while driving. very wise advice👍But it's still my first and last schuberth
I'm so glad to hear this!!! I'm with you...when I'm ready for a new helmet, I may not use schuberth again. Who knows what will be out by then
I watched and commented on your Shuberth vs Shoei video. I still enjoy the C5 but the visor falling still scares the 💩 out of me. I'm going to buy the O rings. I saw another video with the same solution. I also ride and R1200RT. Nice video.
I've been using that O ring trick for almost a year now. Works great. The only thing that changed with doing that is that the visor memory doesn't work anymore. The visor will always close when you open the modular part. But for me it's worth it not to have the visor slamming down and scaring me :) nice to meet another RT rider!!! And thanks for watching/commenting :)
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I rode the three flags trip this year and enjoyed the ride from Mexico to Canada. I'm looking at O Rings now. I just bought a second C5 so I want to do your trick for both helmets. Is the 20 mm x 2 mm the outer dimension of the O Ring?
Melissa, no disrespect, but your are gorgeous. Your hubby is one lucky man...Have a great day. I did enjoy your pros and cons...
Thanks :) I appreciate such a flattering comment
Thank you Melissa, great video. I used your tip, It worked but I ran into a small problem. With both O rings on, the visor does stay open but if push too far up either by wind or hands it will come off. Watching your video again, I suspect that the O rings I used might be too thick. However my short term solution is to use only one O ring on either side. In that case the visor is secure even when fully open. I will try thinner O rings and see.
Wow, I haven't experienced this with my O rings but someone else mentioned this as well. I will keep an eye out for my visor and let me know how your revised sizing works for you!
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures I did purchase the exact same O ring as yours. Everything works and the visor stays put fully open. Thank you
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures I think the key measurement for the Oring is in the 2mm thickness. anything thicker will prevent the latch to lock in and secure the visor when fully open.
@@poupard1963 thanks for the tip and I'm so glad it's working well for you!
what are you using for a camera mount on the C5?
I use made for c5s from chin mount. You can use my coupon code for 10% off here! chinmounts.com/?ref=melissasmotorcycleadventures
I also have my whole vlog setup in a video :)
Thanks for the visor tip.
You're welcome!!!
Great fix
Thanks, perfect fix
Tried a 20x2.5 mm first. That wa to thick. Then i took a 16x1.5mm that worked. It might break quick then i will buy a 20x2
Great video and innovative fix! I just bought a C5. Anybody know if you can upgrade the built-in speakers and mic to the new Harmon Kardon Quantum setup offered by Sena?
I don't know but I'm going to look into this!
Can I integrate cardo freeTalk into C5 ?
I bought the E2 which, as I understand, is the same but with a peak. Struggled with the visor but, what was worse was when I took it out in the rain. Absolutely lethal. Poorly sealing visor meant a waterfall down the middle, pooling on the chin-bar. Opening the vents to clear the mist from the ill-fitting pinlok blew water droplets directly into my eyes. Took it back and got a Neotec 3.
Wow! That's crazy! I've never had any issues like that with my C5. Very glad you found a helmet you like though. Ride safe :)
Thanks, although I'm yet to ride the Note in heavy rain - we'll see. @@melissasmotorcycleadventures
I was in the market for a new modular helmet.I saw the negative comments about the C5 and I was hesitant.But after purchasing it I have to say its the best helmet I've ever bought.It is the quietest helmet I've ever had.I can use the drop down sun visor with the main visor locked and not get fogging with both vents open.I did change the rear pad for a thinner one with the oval head kit as it was slightly catching on the forehead initially but now its super comfortable.I haven't tried the visor fully up on the motorway at motorway speeds yet my my x lites in the past which I loved slammed shut on the motorway so if it happens the c5 its almost expected.Its physics.The SC2 is amazing.Super loud compared to the shark tooth I have in my Evo GT.Great helmet.
Totally agree about how quiet the helmet is! It's super comfortable for me too :) thanks for watching and commenting!
@melissasmotorcycleadventures No probs.I enjoy your vids.Keepnup the good work.
Have a nice day.
I bought Schuberth C5 as well, because I wanted to believe German engineering would be better. Same problems as others with the clear face shield not locking down in place because the plastic tabs molded into the shield either side would not clear the “ledges” on the black plastic parts on either side of helmet. One owner filed them down a bit to make it work. Another went back to Schuberth and they sent replacement black parts for either side. Another mentioned using silicon lube. Great, buyers/users of $800 helmets smarter than German engineers. I just bought a Shoei Neotec II modular. Clear face shield latches in place every time. The modular front part faces and locks with more certainly. Airflow keeps my head cooler in 90-100degF temps. And it is quieter. And seems the aerodynamics are better because after wearing it 3-4 hours the joint at the base of neck vertabrae and top of back vertabrae is not sore. Enough said. But it did cost $100 more. I think in this case Japanese beats German. Hopefully my BMW MCs don’t mind.
How does it feel to use glasses with this helmet? I did not have my glasses on when I tried the helmet in the store, but it seemed to me the pads on the sides are a bit stiff and the handles could possibly start pressing in to my skin.
I've actually had Flying eyes glasses for some time and they are THE BEST! So I can't speak about regular glasses because I'm never going back to them lol. I'll have a video about flying eyes up next week but I have a discount code. Go to www.flyingeyes.com flyingeyesoptics.com/ and use MelMoto10 for 10% off
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Thanks for the suggestion, but they don't seem to offer frameless, which is my personal preference when riding a bike. I have a fear (almost phobia) of losing something behind the frame of glasses and then getting in to a collision. This is why I also avoid riding a car, as much as possible. There is just too much, blocking the view.
@theodorstravels ahhhh makes sense! My husband prefers very thin frames and ones that are very large so his vision is not obscured. He also has a c5 and he hasn't had any complaints about his glasses not fitting in his helmet. He tried while in the show room to be sure before he bought the helmet.
Hi Melissa from South Africa 🇿🇦. Have you heard about the new rpha 91 from HJC? Apparently its been tested as the quietest modular in the market.
i am in the market for a new lid, but can't decide between the shubert or HJC.
i believe Shubert also launched the C5 carbon as well.
decisions, decisions.
ride safe
@zunaidkajee4540 thanks for commenting and watching. I don't know but about the rpha 91. Lemme know what you decide!
Awesome!!
for some reason my mind wondered a 5:44. was there a helmet involved ?
Hahaha 😈
Wow smart i will test this tip on my helm not a C5 but still it might work :D
Lemme know what you think!
Hi, I didn't have this issue until recently so I applied your fix. It worked well and the detents were also improved. However, it caused another issue where the visor wouldn't close and caused whistling inside the helmet. Annoying for my group rides, as the Sena SC5 would pick up the whistling and broadcast to the group.
Do you have any tips on how to fix this? Appreciate the advice :)
Im sorry to hear this! My husband and I have both been using this fix for a year without that issue. I'm wondering if you need a thinner O ring.
Thanks for replying. I have removed the o-rings and seems to have fixed the whistling. So you might be right and I need to use thinner o-rings
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@@melissasmotorcycleadventures UPDATE: My C5 is now a paperweight.
The amount of noise that comes in as the visor doesn't seat properly, makes riding with it unbearable. The wind comes in and whistles loudly. It comes in via the bottom part where the visor is meant to be seated as well as on the sides where the visor connects.
The detents don't hold up at all now and will drop with a slight bump.
On top of that, the vent for the visor (top vent on the chin bar) also fell off last time I rode in the flip up position.
All-in-all very disappointed with it. I can't even send it back to Champion Helmets for warranty as postage costs are a good chunk of the helmet cost. Schuberth nor Champion Helmets won't cover postage back. In addition, CH needs to "assess" to see if it's covered for warranty.
Now, what to do with the Send SC2...
Is the fix still working? Also others have reported other issues like leaking in heavy rain. Have you experienced this at all?
Still working just fine. No leaking for me. My husband also rides 5 days a week and also has had no issues
Thank you for the tip. I have 2 C5s and it only happens on the older one. Maybe they have fixed the issue on newer releases. I'll get the O rings for the old one. It shouldn't be necessary on a £500 helmet but there it is.
I totally agree...for the price there shouldn't need to be that modification. But I still really like the helmet so it's worth it to get some o rings
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures It worked, thank you! I just need to find a use for the other 298 O rings that came in the pack now 🙂
@@baldiedash yay!! I'm glad! If you find a use, let me know since I have a bunch too 🤣
How's the fit - fit to size - or up or down size ...?
That's a difficult question for me to answer. I'm an XS and it was perfect as is. My husband is on the small side of an XS and he had to add padding. So I would say it's true to size
I got 20x2mm o-rings and found that they were too small. 20mm is close to the size of a quarter. I made another trip to the hardware store and found that 35x2mm were the right diameter. They fit on the posts and tightened up the mechanism, but the release levers did not lock so the visor would rotate off the helmet if the visor was pushed back. I don’t know if this would actually happen in use.
I had the same experience. If you put smaller O rings inside the plastic column on the visor. I do have to replace them every month or so
I got a single 1 5/8 x 1 7/16 by 3/32 (they only had one) and put it on the right side. Everything locked up as before. Now clicking which is OK, will see if they deteriorate and need to be replaced.
Great solution, what is concerning is that Schuberth has had this visor problem with other earlier generation helmets. Why haven't they fixed this problem from happening on their latest generation helmets? Quite frankly, its unacceptable
Good question! Since I posted this video, I've had people tell me that it's actually a safety feature to ensure the visor is down at higher speeds. That would make sense to me but my personal preference is that I don't like it slamming down.
Clever fix using o-rings.
Are you running on high beam?
See for yourself on my Only Fans @MelMotoAdv 😈
Hi, is this solution still working?
So far its been 10 weeks and I have no issues
About the o ring fix -- the o-rings prevents the visor lock from engangeing, so u might loose ur visor if u raise it to hign.
Interesting...I've been using this for months and lift my visor all the way up and haven't had an issue yet. But thank you for the warning..I will keep an eye out!
did not work for me. I added some pads on the hinges and that worked for me
Hmmm that's interesting! I can't picture how that works but I'm glad you found a fix :)
It is nice quite helmet. But overall, for me shoei neotec 2 still better then the c5
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@melmotoadv
Hard pass on the C5, build quality seems spotty at best. I run a Nolan 105 now and just picked up a Neotec 3 and love it.
Glad to hear you found what works best for you :) happy riding;
I finally gave up... Selling my C5 that I have worn about 4 times... I cant take it any more. The visor drops while riding... And often... And sometimes violent. I took it back to Schuberth and they told me F-off basically... So, hello Shoei Neotec 3... I have been a customer of Schuberth since my C3 and have had every version since... No recall on the C5 helmet is nuts...
My understanding is the visor comes down because it's a European rule for safety. Enjoy your neotech! It's a great helmet for many ppl :) happy riding
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Makes sense… But it’s impossible to wear that helmet when the visor drops hard while riding. We live in the USA - No need for that extra regulations… Leave that to the Europeans. As I said, after owning Schuberth helmets for more than 10 years - I’ve never had this issue…
I think Schuberth should recall the visors. I am sure they knew it from out of production. It bugs me every time it closes down because it does it with force.
I agree with you. I reached out to Schuberth twice about it...no response. That disappointed me that their customee service was not very good
Perdón por entrar a su conversación, en mi caso, el visor se baja solo, y en otras situaciones mi visor se atora al querer abrirlo o cerrarlo, se lo reporte a schuberth Alemania por email y en 3 días me pusieron en contacto con Schuberth Norte América y ya me enviaron una nueva visera por garantía, estoy esperando que me llegue, y claro les comentare si se soluciono mi problema @@melissasmotorcycleadventures
Vaseline is always recommended on a tight ring.
For safety reasons, the flip will close automatically by a speed of approximately 30 40 miles.
It's not for safety reasons it's just bloody annoying 😂
You must mean 20 mm radius o-rings. O-rings sold by diameter. I bought 20 mm ones on Amazon and absolutely no way getting those around the 40mm diameter plastic circles on each end of visor. Unless of course you are buying some type of very stretchable material. A particular type of rubber like in rubber bands, maybe.
What I don't get with Schuberth is their use of 2 shell sizes for that kind of money. I have a LS2 Infinity 2 carbon that was $230 and comes in 4 shell sizes. The Shoei Neotec 2 also comes in 4 shell sizes, but for me personally, no helmet brand has fit me worse than Shoei. I suspect I should have upsized from what I normally wear, but they're too expensive to gamble on that being a fix, so I just don't buy them anymore.
Yes I don't know why they don't have different shells. I'm sure it comes down to money as is with my business decisions. 🙄
Isn't to heavy weight this helmet? I bought it and used only two times! The neck hurts from the weight! I will sell it. I'm very disappointed!
I do find most modulars are heavier for sure. The AGV sport modular is 2.98 lbs. I dont know much about that helmet but that is a pound lighter than Schuberth!
I don’t actually mind the visor coming down at speed. I don’t want to get hit on the cheek by an insect at 60 mph.
I can say the comms system is A1
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Neotec 3 is A LOT better 😊
Definitely a personal choice with helmets :)
6:35 and thank me later if you know you know!
We all know 😈
no way to focus on oring
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Here’s how you fix it, buy an Arai
Haha I love arai and have one but they don't make modular helmets 😕
So you want to ride over 55 mph with visor up 🤔🤔 lol
Sometimes it's necessary to have it cracked for airflow but you can't without my fix.
Hey Melissa, i have never watched a video from you before but my senses are tingling.
You jokingly said that that your Husbands BMW is now yours, you are clicking your tongue very often, you are talking about "your" house 05:40.
You gonna kill your Husband or what?
He knows....everything that's "his" is actually mine 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures he dead already?