Guys, thank you all for your suggestions! I created a poll on which topic you would like to see in the next video, you can vote in the "community" tab. Unfortunately it turns out that I could only put 5 options there, sorry if your suggestion didn't make it. But don't worry there will be more such polls😊
Как ни странно, но нужно отодвинуть мотоциклы на второй план и обратить внимание на остальных действующих лиц... Я имею ввиду всех участников движения - пешеходы, велосипелы, легковушки и вплоть до фур и спецтехники. Большинство двухколесов не верно оценивают возможности транспорта других водителей, не понимают логику их действий и то, как выглядит движение с их стороны. Конечно, все это познается на практике, но порой бывает слишком поздно.
To all new riders-dont worry about the BS chicken strip. Take a couple of classes, don't get to much bike and above all, ride your ride. LEARN from experience and push yourself in small increments. Don't try to hang with the " fast " riders Have fun and be safe.
Don’t know about any of you but I got a bike to ride my ride, enjoy nature, and learn at my own pace. I didn’t get it so I can satisfy others’ and get their approval on whether I have chicken strips or not….
I think there’s still value in this video. Getting rid of chicken strips with a kitchen pad does nothing but improve someone’s fragile ego. Doing slow speed maneuvers to get rid of them improves your skill.
I'm scheduling some therapy for chicken strip trauma and abuse. I'm sick of everyone laughing and pointing at my tires everywhere I go. I've tried painting them, scuffing them up, anti-chicken-strip spray ... nothing works. My doctor says it's called Acute Chicken Strip Syndrome or ACSS. I kinda liked this video. Shows you routines to practice and how to do it. Better than some guy on a moto blog just talking while he rides his bike with one hand :D
Can I get the name of your therapist, I think I need some help too. My doctor sent me on an intensive course which he called "summer months" and my chicken strips cleared up but they came back during winter and I just don't know what to do 🤧
No, your all backwards….it’s the dipshi+s who obsess over made up crap about how far you lean. It’s Complete nonsense, it’s about going just as fast and not leaning at the ragged edge, through proper techniques. Take your top non chicken strip wonder bro, bragging about just how fast he is….and bring him to any of the regional racetracks, suit him up against some the nations lower ranked, but qualified motorcycle racers, and watch boy wonder chicken strip, get lapped twice! Better yet, take any one of these motorcycle influencers here on UA-cam flapping their gums, (even ones talking nonsense with Some horribly broken English), give them the best bike, best tires, and watch them pee their pants, at speeds, the over 60s senior citizen race circuit are doing. Don’t fall for this horse crap, just keep learning, being smart, and eating up road, and you’ll be fine. I like chicken, jackasses not so much!
You didn’t watch the video 💀 you should do this exercise so that you are able lo lean this far, just in case you reallly need it. It doesn’t mean you have to always lean this much.
@amzuppa I watched the video and I see a video goading noobs to lean more and they will do it on street corners and bust their butt. JOIN a club and get trained.
@@amzuppa Exactly, yesterday I went wide because I was afraid to lean in. About 200km into the trip, all backside roads, an increasing corner radius caught me off guard. I trail braked enough to clear the corner but it would require a high lean angle which I was afraid of and went wide. Thankfully I braked hard enough that I was perfectly okay, also wearing good gear, the motorcycle is also untouched because I ditched it into sand. Decided to sign up for track courses, the ability to lean hard is crucial for safety.
@@halo-7797or just enter turns with proper speed then you will never need to lean more or just ride the bike and eventually you will lean. I am 100% sure you do not have more than 5k km on the bike
I think throttle and clutch control at slow speeds along with counter-steering and reaction time are essential motorcycle skills. That and the proper use of the brakes maybe.
I feel like if you need to scratch out the chicken strips then you probably care too much about what other people think 🤔 just ride and be you, not everyone wants or has a need to lean that far. Maybe they just use it to commute 🤷♂️
When I commute any turn or corner, I can I’m trying to lean and get that back tire to slip so it doesn’t really matter if it’s a commuter and I ride a 400😅
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne lol it’s called throttle control I definitely don’t do it around cars an if I go down I’m wearing full gear an going less than 60 so I’ll be fine 🥳
watched one video, ended up watching about 10 more of your content - really useful stuff and i really like how you back up what you're saying by showing us in person you riding, earned a sub
l didn't get to 76 by trying to clean my tyres of chicken strips...l currently ride a Street Triple 675r running Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2s.. My 'chicken strips' are currently 15 mm which after the last few changes of similar tyres is pretty well the norm for me...l consider the strip a safety margin rather than prove I'm a bad arse biker.... In my experience tyre profile, compound, tyre pressure and suspension all play a part in the ability to lean. Another point I'd like to make is l live in Spain where during the summer months the road temperature is very high compared to 'winter' which makes the tyre hotter and 'stickier' giving the feeling of confidence. also the suspension feels different, temperature possible effecting the damping fluid..
With the rush to learn how to RIDE our bikes, a lot of new riders skip over maintenance and care. Topics like changing wheels/tires or performing periodic maintenance would be cool.
@@Mespera3011 brakes, chain maintenance, all fluids, filters, tire pressure, battery, lights. for that you don't need a lot tools. no one is telling you to do ducati valves in your drive way.
I could not care less about what others think! I have been riding Harleys for 54 years now and not once have I worried about "chicken strips" and I am still here and riding.
My pals who are brothers, own a Harley custom shop. They both have gone down several times. Transition from street to gutter to driveway the main protagonist.
Well you're just a tough Harley Davison Riders man 😂😂 Sheep following the flock , The tough Harley Rider Image is so 1970's 😵💫🙈😵💫🙈👎👎 Stuff Harley Davison Bikes & that Shit Biker image 👎👎👎
Topic - actions and how to practice them when emergency arises in the middle of the corner while in full lean. Also, I think one day you should delve into suspension settings check and setup as many rides bikes with suspension setup completely wrong.. Keep up the good job, love your channel!
Too many variables in suspension set up. It will be different for every rider and bike combination. Unless we all ride the same bike and we all are the same hight and weight.
@@MotoControlEn I'm in the same boat, sold my ninja zx-6r with fully adjustable suspension and bought a new 390 duke, but I've always been missing the full knowledge on how to do suspension adjustments correctly (all my adjustments on my old bike were kinda by feel, and not by any rules) and I might upgrade my 390's suspension at some point or just get a 790 duke later
Be constantly "proactive" in 360 situational awareness... i.e.: know where ur escapes are constantly before u need them ! And then, pay attention to "traffic flow"... Just because u can go 0-60 in 3 sec., doesn't mean u should EVERYWHERE u go ! Inner city and residential neighborhoods are BAD places to "try and go 100mph" ! Constantly "pick ur spots and choose ur battles" and don't get impatient when "your choosing NOT to battle" ! "Be fine with being behind"... you'll move ahead eventually... Just because u can lane split, doesn't mean u have to, constantly, at the same pace ! Out here, where the 10 meets the 405, is a "shitshow of mergers" in AND out ! Lane splitting through that right side where it's happening, is damn near suicide! It's actually WAY better, to hang out in the left lanes, then, as a bike, u can easily make ur merge long after everyone is done ! And slide in quite easily ! By minimizing chance, u thus minimize "risk", by avoiding certain risks altogether ! Put the situation/odds in your favor as much as u can ! 🤷🤙 Hope this helps and ride well !
Tips and exercises for practicing emergency braking from high speeds (60-100kmh) on a bike without abs. I can more or less comfortably do a stoppie at slow speed, but at higher speeds I have no confidence that I will be able to reduce brake pressure in time not to flip the bike. A video on this topic or a comment from you would be great. Especially since no other channel has a video about this topic as far as I am aware at least
Excellent topic! If you're going straight, it's surprising how hard you can squeeze (not stab!) the brake lever. Start squeezing and once you feel the weight transfer onto the front (a bit of fork dive) then progressively increase pressure (about 1-2 second from initial squeeze until squeeze pretty hard). Repeat and continue building up until you're squeezing pretty hard.
All right, I'm adding this to a poll. The reason nobody makes a video about that is because it's hard to film, you need big enough place to repeatedly show braking from high speeds. I'll be able to record 80km/h, I'll try 100 but no promises😄
Next Topis : Where to look in the corner. A video explaining exactly how to approach a corner following your eyesight. I haven't found any videos on UA-cam that really show this in detail. People are always talking about this in general but never show this on example video, where to look exactly. How far into the next turn, for example. Also, when to start the apex and when to accelerate out of the corners based on what you see. I would appreciate a video like this, really detailed and focused on correct vision through the corner.
always appreciate that you explain your lessons from the perspective of safety-first. I keep remembering that line a motor salesman taught me, "never forget, that everytime you hit the road, you are gambling your life and death. always ride safe!"
@@bmo3778 any incident i get into... cops like "whos fault?" mine... "howd you figure that? you just said she ran a red and teeboned you?" i chose to ride, chose not to watch out, chose to be here...
Ride to arrive. If these stripes worry you, it's because you have a small weener. Nobody other than a small portion of other bikers care. Women certainly don't
Another brilliant video, thank you! I tend not to ride in wet weather. Primarily because it just isn't much fun. However, if I do get caught out I'd appreciate some discussion on riding in the wet, types of tyres and any other tips to improve safety. Hope this helps you.
the only tyre i now use is metzler sportec. i havent had anything quite the same. it grips. it steers. it wears properly. it... iunno. i aint changing now. pre-order a few sets. and im a moto courier...so yeah.... i use tyres. ignore suggestions to lower tyre pressure. wtf? you want less contact area for more pressure per cm^2 to cut through any water, rather than go the other way... why do dune buggies have fat tyres? pfft, rain dont hurt. until you get nearly two years straight of it!
@@paradiselost9946 on my original ninja 600 loved metzlers better than any other top brand just worked great on that bike. Now my later ZX6 found other brands that worked well michelin and pirelli seemed to work good on them. I found over the decades every bike has 1 or 2 tires that just fit the handling characteristics better than others. On a few it too me 4 to 6 sets to find the right ones. Once found a perfect match and they discontinued the damn model LOL oh I was pissed never did find another set that was as good in that bike.
@@RT22-pb2pp darn tootin. tyre selection is... challenging. im always a bit amazed with super motard, how do they decide which tyres to run and how many sets do they waste by simply trying for a day then tossing as theyre crap? oh yeah... they got cash to splash, lol. change that aspect ratio, and suddenly the radius is different. now the amount of scrub between the inner and outer points of the contact patch are different, its following a different arc... so the same amount of lean you threw in on 14070 will be utterly different to a 14080, and if you happen to throw a 15065 on then things get really unpredictable... whilst a bike doesnt have a diff, the contact patch and curve of the wall accomplishes much the same task. any scrub in that contact patch is losing traction. there aint much traction on a bike. we want ALL of it! sidewall radius must coincide with steering geometry and lean angles and the line one is taking... some really concerted harmony going on between parts that most people cant even start to contemplate with bike tyres...
@@paradiselost9946 Tires and susension settings are the big ones cause bike rider and road conditions are all variables so there is no perfect set up or tires for any 2 people. it is a feel thing and a riding style thing. what works for me may not work for anyone else. These are the things others cannot help with it is trial and error for each person
Many years ago I had a Honda CD200. Yes, a 200. I ground the foot pegs on it. But it was easy, you did not have to lean far over to do it. I do not have chicken strips on my ‘98 bandit, I have wisdom strips. They show I am now wise enough corner with a margin for the unexpected. Like a rabbit in the road. I am not trying to get to the morgue as quick as I can, I am trying to get to my destination. When I still lived in my father’s house (30 odd years ago) there was a chap in the village in the same school year as me. By the time I moved out at 25 he had written off more motorcycles than I have owned in the following 30 years. He had no chicken strips, he had road rash.
Topic 1 : throttle input on exit of a corner. From neutral throttle in the middle of a corner to max throttle, when to initiate acceleration, how much and how fast should the wrist movement be? Topic 2: Ride a twisty road and talk us through the fast ride (ex: I'm closing throttle now, I'm gently braking, now I open throttle 5%, now I'm max throttle) By the way, love your videos.
Topic- Though I've seen you explain that you need to increase lean angle in the turn when learning to lean, what I had problems learning when I was young was on how to actually do this. Increasing the speed will stand you up, and it's not really intuitive for people to countersteer it out a little bit more and let it fall/catch it with throttle, without overdoing it. or to let out the gas a bit to let the bike drop more and pick up the speed to hold the angle, there's different times for different methods and I think it'd provide great depth for people
counter steering push on right bar to go right push left to go left try it in parking lot be ready small push will force quick lean in fast. in stright line push on right bar bike will lean right fast and easy practice it you can slalom a bike with just light pushes side to side it is fun. it is how you make a fast entrance and get leaned in fast and smooth slowly build up you will be shocked than weigh shift is not even needed bike does the work.
I recall an instance when I was riding home from Mexico in my Camry. I was doing right about 80mph going north of San Diego, on the I5, as I had just glanced at it. All of a sudden I get this revving engine sound. (not my car) Two bike riders passed me. One on each side. They passed like I was standing still. They both had to be well over 100mph. Dont get me wrong. I have crossed the triple digit mark just about everytime I ever hit the freeway on my own two wheels. The thing of it was that both of them passed me on one wheel. And they kept it up until I lost sight of them. When I finally got out of the car I had to check for "Chicken Strips" on my backside.
I've been following Motojitsu for a while now and even purchased his books. However after watching a few of you video's I will also purchase your course to see where it differs. I keep a very open mind and understand that everyone rides differently, but I've just found your channel so I have to explore :). +1 sub.
Hi Andrei, I have asked more than one time for a video regarding riding in the rain, a situation that can be tricky even to seasoned rider. You may include the differences on braking and accelerating, in wet conditions, motorcycles that have ABS and traction control and those that don't have such devices. Thanks and all the best from Brazil. ✌
I ride In the uk my bike has no traction control or abs literally just be gentle on the throttle try not to lean much break gently and early both front and back break and don’t chop your throttle and you will be fine
@@Louis-jn8mp Thanks man. That's what I've been doing for nearly 30 years. My bike, just like yours, doesn't have traction control or ABS and is pretty heavy because it is a Harley Softail Deuce but I always feel safe riding such beast even in the rain. The reason by which I keep asking Andrei about a video regarding riding in wet conditions is because I always think I can learn more than what I already know and I also may recycle something that I think I know but that can be wrong. Andrei always give us some insight to some detail that we, average riders, even if we are experienced, do not see, or perceive. Anyway, thanks again for the goodwill and for the advice. All the best from Brazil.✌
practice in any condition is key and most hate rain so never practice in a parking lot in rain but lower tire pressure and go to parking lot and get feel for brakes and traction in controlled area. smooth is key no sudden stops or take offs smooth is key ease into every motion.
Very good video. On the road it´s wise not to use all the wheel and keep some rubber as a safety gap. I let about 1cm unused, just for safety reasons. Scrapping the pegs on every corner usually is the prelude of a crash.
I would like to see a video on gravel roads in general. I'm still fairly new riding and turning into gravel roads or parking lots is a big one for me. Also clutch/throttle control leaving side road parking areas that are on slanted roadways.
I love that bike I don't know why. I have a Kawasaki Z125. I love machines which are a small as possible while getting the job done haha. The Z125 is fun and I love it, but I want something full sized, and gives me enough height to significantly change my center of gravity in corners....Like a full sized bike.
I recently upgraded my bike from 150cc to 400cc. I hope you can make video about riding wet road/rain. I encountered a lot more tire skidding using 400cc bike compared to 150cc moped.
Hello coach!! May I address something? It is possible to make a turn at the same speed with different lean angles. The body itself leverages the center of mass and thanks to the deformation of tires, you can make the turn at high speeds without reaching the tyre's limit, thus creating some chicken strips. On the contrary, if you just stay still on top of the bike, in order to make a turn successfully you'll need to lean a lot when going at high speeds. This is similar to the differences between the English / Sport riding styles as seen on Enduro / MotoGP disciplines. On dirt you really want to push the bike down to drift and ride fast, whereas in MotoGP the straighter the bike makes the turn, the more power they can apply when exiting it. Any thoughts of this matter? PDTA: I always have like 1 and a half finger-wide chicken strips and I consider myself a medium to fast rider in corners.
Look where you are going and ride as fast as you can stop , you will soon scrub your tyres properly , if you look at tyres then you will see those who actually accelerate through corners and those who break or drag , just getting rid of the bobbles will not help when you need help , eyes where you want to go , straighten everything , use it all and keep it hot . The learning curve is steep solitary and satisfying , focus and zone in 👍
Tip for longer video:I'd like to see overview of most common types of crashes and what to do to avoid them(or at least mitigate them if falling) (accelerating into T intersections, overtaking, wrong line on twisty roads etc. ). Keep doing great work!
Hi, love the videos a fairly new rider here! Got a question from the leaning video. I like counterleaning for increased visibility. Do you think it makes sense to counterlean into turns and and 'kiss the mirror' only to straighten the bike when approaching obstacles (manhole covers, puddles) and/or braking? Does it upset the stability during a turn? I seem to do that quite a bit with no ill effect to this date, but not sure if this is a bad habit in the long run. Thanks!
Counterleaning makes sense if you expect the need to quickly make the bike upright (to increase the turning radius or to brake heavily or even to change direction completely, like they do in gymkhana). It also makes sense if you expect to slide the rear and use your inner foot as a way to keep the bike rubber side down while sliding (supermoto style). On the other hand, it may be counterproductive if you need to quickly tighten a turn (without sliding) since increasing the lean angle when you're already counterleaning is harder to perform quickly. So for normal street riding your best bet is to lean with the bike, and only counterleaning or leaning more into the turn when you need to make quick adjustments to the bike's trajectory.
This is super helpful and interesting!!! I now have chicken strips about 3/4" and it surprised me to see them actually... When I ride through the mountains and curves on tarmac my leaning feels great, as it feels like the angle of lean is substantial like if I were almost all the way. But apparently I have not hit that max... Yeah, having some chicken strips is ok for me😊
Over the past few years I've noticed my 'Chicken strips' lessen during the summer months.. This is on the same motorcycle ..Street Triple 675r plus same make and series of tyre. Possibly because the tyres become hotter and just feels more in contact with the road which in turn gives more confidence in the feel of the Bike when leaned over...
most street tires never get to very edge and if it does you really need to be on track for that kind of leaning, where it is safer to truly ride on the edge, pun intended. ridden for decades and even ripping on canyon or twisties on street i have some chicken strips as squids call them I call those the racing edge, on track they disappear quick as I can really lean on a track where surface is smother and more consistent traction than streets.
RT 22 Yep, spot on. If you're getting to the edge of your tyres on public roads, you're going to hurt yourself and or someone else sooner rather than later.
@@diaryofanolddad easier than app lean bike until pegs touch and you can measure the angle. I have after market rear sets if the peg touches you angle is crashing lol. A little basic geometry will give you lean at point peg hits if you drag peg if not then app may be close but to be exact app has to be set when bike and phone is at perfect 90 degrees and still probably not accurate without all bike parameters factored exactly
That's a bit tricky, because they are not directly related and used in very different proportions in different sports applications, it'll be a very huge topic. But I'll think if I can put together anything cohesive😁
@@MotoControlEn maybe create situations of lean where you'd need more and describing a range of situations, where the inbetween the lines would fill itself out by learning a spread of different situations
I am interested in learning about how to navigate sharp corners with inexpensive or oem tires. I own a small Aprilia 125cc bike and am hesitant to rely on the Michelin Pilot Street OEM tires. Even when attempting circle exercises as shown in the video, I am afraid of losing traction early and potentially dropping my bike.
@@MotoControlEn I'd appreciate aswell, just got my Versys x 300, and it came with Pirelli MT60 (70% on, 30% off road), and i get nervous about my leaning angle because of tire shape to loose traction early
Thank you very much for all the Bike Tips I have since become a better rider though still struggle with bending curves on the road I am from South Africa and follow your videos all the time. Riding M50 Boulevard and U-turns are still a bit of a nightmare for me
In 2017 I tried to sell my Ninja 600 quick because I came across hard times. But no one wanted to buy it because it had no chicken strips, very low mileage, and I was asking for almost half of what it was worth. But I was just trying to sell it quick. So they claimed it to be a track bike and called me a scammer online. Although I have never ridden on a track in my life. So seeing this, I even had it safetied to satisfy them. Yet everyone was suspicious and kept asking if it was a track bike. I started questioning them on why people thought that. They said because nobody leans that low in the streets.... But I do haha. Whoever it was that bought that bike got an insane deal because I sold it for half its worth. It was literally brand new.
Hi,i have a Ducati multistrada 1200. I was thinking of buying a 2nd bike for learning wheelies,stoppies, doing motogymkhana etc..I already practice on my ducati but going to the limit is not fun because even a small crash on that bike can be thousands of Euros. Do you think an old Honda CB500 is a good choice for this?
Hey Andrei, your videos helped me a lot but one thing is missing (or I cant find it) the best way to do a emergency break. Everybody says something different. The best way to stop at every speed.
can you make a video on mirrors; mirror position, changing lanes using mirrors, kinds of mirrors (bar end vs upright). My bigest fears are changing lanes around other vehicles
What should be proper body position in different situations. Beginning with who to sit on a bike, progressing through normal street riding ending with dragging knees. How to train your vision. Explain how/where to look in different riding situations.
Vision will come very soon (in fact the first video is here: ua-cam.com/video/8NO08zW1_70/v-deo.html ), and there are 2 videos about body position on the channel. And knee dragging topic I already added to the poll😉
Those unworn areas are also the area where the tyre has reduced grip until the rubber has been scrubbed off to remove the release compound. It is a chicken and egg situation, the area has reduced grip until it is scuffed but cannot be scuffed until it is used.
Hi I think one of the most important things i couldn't find anywhere is what are the most important skills a rider should develop in order to be safe. Improvement skills for an emergency like something on the road, like oil, car, or even person
Visibility is probably the top - thinking about where other vehicle's blind spots are and whether they can see you, means you are proactively thinking about what to do if they pull out unexpectedly etc and will react faster. Not every accident can be anticipated, but these are the most common and most dangerous. FortNine has a great video showing how and why car drivers don't see motorcycles
Really useful videos ... Thanks slot . I've changed my bike from a cruiser to a racing style it's really light bot because of a bold gas tank in front, my testicles really suffers in riding do you have any useful tip for this ?🙏🙏
Dude, I love your videos, humour, and most of all, how clear you are! One of the absolute best instructors here on the Tube. Stay well and safe. Ok.... I have @8mm chicken strips for road riding.... I am cool with that... But.... I notice that its comfortable to lean... to a point... then the extra lean angle after that, the bike seems super unstable. Tyres are amazing, Michelin Road 6s soild as a rock, bike is 2004 Speed Triple 955i. Just feel that last bit of lean is out of reach. Maybe others have this too?
Yes, it happens to me with every unfamiliar bike or when I start with big lean angles after a long pause (like after a winter). It's usually a mental thing, the more you gradually try lean more and more - the more relaxed you'll become and it will become less scary. Just make sure you practice it in a safe environment and in full gear 😉 BTW, don't really worry about chicken strips, they are just a silly bragging thing, to be honest😁
Do you also ride in circle using the friction zone, or the clutch is permanent disengaged? I guess it depends on the speed you ride, right? At what speed (km/h) you put your fingers away from the clutch? Thank you very much.
I was at a bike meet on my V Max. There were other ones there but they were all bling straight liners. I was parked a way down the street sitting near it. Mine is all about performance & cornering. Its non standard in the suspension with frame mods & stage 7 tune. Well to cut this short. Two dudes walking past when one says to the other, "there's something you never see on a V Max". the other one says "what"? Answer, "no chicken strips". lol. BTW iv'e been riding since a very young age & in my younger day's road raced in Ulster & the IOM. Thanks for your channel. Its interesting & informative especially for new rider's.Keep up the good work.
After years and years of having chicken strips, all it took was one 400km day of continuous twisties of various degrees in california to forever improve my cornering immensely!
Honest question: don't you have to take into account the dirt and grease/slime in the chicken strips? This is one of the first exercises I started doing even before seeing it on this or any video and I find myself having to do it again and again when the chicken strips have rebuilt (for example after weeks of normal riding) before I can ride aggressively. In this exercise, when the chicken strips are there, even if I have practiced to the point of scraping the pegs, even if I know the limit, I just cannot immediately lean the bike: I will feel the bike being unstable and the rear slightly sliding every time I progressively lean into the chicken strips. They will slowly clean themself up, tiny strip by tiny strip after each round of few laps and, every time a tiny strip cleans, if feels like you can lean that strip with much more stability, but it takes quite some laps on each side. It seems it's not just about skill, but also about grip which can change soo much (even with just some leafs or stones on the ground, but also with a thin film of dirt on the chicken strip) and I think it's dangerous if you don't know or ignore this. Of course you will quickly realize how much grip matters doing the exercise, but if by some turn of events you have practiced it only on clean tires and then suddenly you try to do the exercise on dirty chicken strips, you will find yourself baffled because you are struggling to lean and if in that moment you go "it's just psychological, you know how to lean, just lean it" and then push it, I think you will easily low side. I know I did a couple of times, at least once by mistake and another one by trying to test this theory and I cannot think of another explanation.
Hi Andrei, greetings from The Netherlands! I wish to hear more about motor maintainance and safety margins in this. Should I strictly stick to those of the manual (Kawasaki ER-6N) for the chain, gears, brakes? I'm a very new rider, and a keen hobby mechanic, seeking to enjoy own but safe maintainance. Keep up your careful, smart, great videos!
Chicken strips are also affected by the width ofvthe rim and tire, and the profile of the tire. Ive ridden on tires where it is impossible to wear to the edge of the tire due to the profile shape. Back in the late 80's, when wider tires were first becoming available, people would put wider than stock tires on the rear because it looked cool, but the narrow rim gave those tired a squared profile and the edge of the tread was sucked in, never to be used.
I have a hard time reaching that last half inch of tire. I was going in circles getting comfy with lean angle, and it’s like I can’t counter steer any harder to get the last bit at 20-25mph. It’s like an invisible resistance, at that point my inner hand has to support more of my weight which it cannot do while pushing the clip on forward
Hi mate! Will you add content related to sport bikes at some point? I love all your content, and I also know that in Argentina sportbikes are not particularly accessible, but maybe tips and tricks on a RC250 about body position might enrich your range of topics. Thanks! Keep it up :)
I commute my FZ6 in a moderately sized flat Florida city. There aren't many opportunities for knee drags and im not moto gp leaning in rush hour traffic.
Greetings from Spain. I'm 52 year old and ride a CBR 600 F4i, a CBF 600S and a GSF 650S. Mi concern it's about the fatigue while riding, how to prevent the fatigue? and the mistakes associated to a this fatigue, especially when ride for more than 4 or 5 hours? Thanks in advance and thanks for your advices, they are very useful!.
man i love this channel, not only yougive us education regarding riding bikes but you also give us chances to choose what to learn in the future, gotta sub now so i'll know if something came up 😁👌 rev high brotha 💪
Unusual thing about me, I've only ridden small cc pitbikes and sorts on the track and easily lean with them dragging knees and everything. Do those skills actually transfer to riding a bigger cc bike on a canyon?
@MotoControlEn I'm a new rider and live in a busy city where there are a lot of bumpy roads, dips, train tracks, etc and not so flat surfaces. Can you make video on what to do and how to ride through these pavements to make it safer for street riders. Thanks
Should we always keep our body neutral when street riding? Usually this is a great position but what is best to do in those sleeping 180 corners that go through mountains or forests?😊
Even in Japan, it is called “amaring”(””余り:amari/Surplus """輪:ring/ring)and is looked down upon by some people who have an inferiority complex. Similarly, there are people with small engine displacement condescending.
I had never heard the term "chicken stripes" before. And to be honest, during my active time on a motorcycle between 1988 and 2014, no one ever asked me how I had worn down my tires on that motorcycle. And why should I push a heavy touring motorcycle (1990 Yamaha XVZ 13 td) to the tire's cornering limit if I don't have to? What does it say? Does one now become a bad driver because one currently has "chicken stripes" on the tire? The tire pattern only says that this tire has not been pushed to its limit recently. It says nothing about the driver's driving style. Does this tire have to be pushed to its limit? In terms of driving dynamics, some motorcycles cannot go down that far. The wider the tire, the more you have to lean into the curve to take the same curve as a motorcycle with narrow tires. Heavy choppers with thick rear tires (Suzuki M109r), which are designed more for the ¼ mile, touch the asphalt much sooner when leaning than the rear tire reaches its limit. And from what I see, most aggressive motorcyclists judge other drivers by how they drive their motorcycles. This raises the question of who loses their motorcycle on the road more often and who draws more lines and color accents into the asphalt with their crashed motorcycle frame. The driver with the chicken stripes or the driver who went over the tire limit? I prefer to ride with drivers who ride defensively and not with people who want to criticize you and your driving style based on the tires. Everyone should ride in a way that gets them to their destination. And critics should rather examine themselves and see whether their driving style is safe for everyone. And anyone who really wants to push themselves to the limit should go to the race track. There he can test whether he is the hero against like-minded drivers.
Is it just me or I’m not the only one with this perception! I just started moto school, been driving cars for 20 years, never on a motorcycle, moped or scooter. When riding 125cc on first 2 school sessions, I felt that as being more of a toy than a normal motorcycle. Very easy to control, jerky throttle, not enough power, but when I switch to 600+cc bike, everything felt planted, much more heavy but a lot more controllable even though is a bit unforgiving on corners in not leaned and throttle controlled properly. I was feeling more afraid to lean the small CC one on the corners that I do with the bigger one. And now my suggestion for a topic, making ♾️ turns with just one hand, pushing on the lever which is inside the turn. I was asked to do this one handed with a stretched arm and always pushing on the lever to counter steer the bike, which I find a bit strange because I have to control my body position on the bike and body lean angle also! Maybe you have a video about already but i am quite new subscriber and haven’t checked all you videos yet! Thank you for the lessons and sorry for long a$$ comment! 😂
All right, added 1-handed figure 8's to the poll! 125cc was scary to lean probably (I'm not sure because I wasn't there, obviously😄) because of tires - on 125s they usually put the cheapest stuff with more "square" profile. Which is quite good for transporting 5 people at once at 25km/h, but not for cornering.
TOPIC IDEA = a video on the differences bewtween standard (manual shifting) and automatic (DCT, CVT) motorcycle RIDING techniques and SKILLS required please.
You’ve missed out a very important part, body position. Which has an effect on lean angle, the more you lean off the less lean angle you need. Which means that the more you stay in the centre of the bike the more tyre you’ll use. If you have chicken strips on the road it could mean that your body position is very good. So don’t worry about it.
Andrei! How can we as riders, get our message across to drivers, to watch out for us too and to be more patient on the road. Unfortunately I was involved in a very serious motor car accident because someone made a silly decision and was in a hurry. Its been 10 months and I’m still in recovery waiting to ride again. If driving schools would only teach drivers that there are cyclists and motorcycle riders on the too! Sure I’ll get back on my bike, but it sure would be nice to know someone on the road is looking out for me! Thanks. Alf
Sorry to hear about your accident, get well soon! About your question - I don't know, really. I think the ideal solution would be more education for drivers and riders, with more emphasis on learning more different road situations etc. But the problem is that big long learning program would cost a lot, and for society that would be unacceptable if it would become obligatory. So I don't know what to do about that, really.
As a very old man now, this thing about some people caring about how the edges of the tread pattern on their tyres look is beyond me. Who cares? I never cared on sports bikes, when I could ride them (fucked up knees stopped that) and I don't care on cruisers. The point of riding is not to 'look cool' to other people, and if you're concerned about that you'll like come a cropper when you do something you should have known better than. Ride the damned bike, and enjoy it, just ride it sensibly and safe. If you ride like a lunatic, there's a better than even chance you'll die like a lunatic.
Guys, thank you all for your suggestions! I created a poll on which topic you would like to see in the next video, you can vote in the "community" tab. Unfortunately it turns out that I could only put 5 options there, sorry if your suggestion didn't make it. But don't worry there will be more such polls😊
Как ни странно, но нужно отодвинуть мотоциклы на второй план и обратить внимание на остальных действующих лиц... Я имею ввиду всех участников движения - пешеходы, велосипелы, легковушки и вплоть до фур и спецтехники. Большинство двухколесов не верно оценивают возможности транспорта других водителей, не понимают логику их действий и то, как выглядит движение с их стороны. Конечно, все это познается на практике, но порой бывает слишком поздно.
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To all new riders-dont worry about the BS chicken strip. Take a couple of classes, don't get to much bike and above all, ride your ride. LEARN from experience and push yourself in small increments. Don't try to hang with the " fast " riders
Have fun and be safe.
Don’t know about any of you but I got a bike to ride my ride, enjoy nature, and learn at my own pace. I didn’t get it so I can satisfy others’ and get their approval on whether I have chicken strips or not….
I think there’s still value in this video. Getting rid of chicken strips with a kitchen pad does nothing but improve someone’s fragile ego. Doing slow speed maneuvers to get rid of them improves your skill.
yes but its also fun to improve and get better not just be stuck, progress is part of the experiance
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This is what a rider with chicken strips would say.
If all you wanna do is use the center of the go ahead ..me i like using all my tire
I'm scheduling some therapy for chicken strip trauma and abuse. I'm sick of everyone laughing and pointing at my tires everywhere I go. I've tried painting them, scuffing them up, anti-chicken-strip spray ... nothing works. My doctor says it's called Acute Chicken Strip Syndrome or ACSS. I kinda liked this video. Shows you routines to practice and how to do it. Better than some guy on a moto blog just talking while he rides his bike with one hand :D
Can I get the name of your therapist, I think I need some help too. My doctor sent me on an intensive course which he called "summer months" and my chicken strips cleared up but they came back during winter and I just don't know what to do 🤧
No, your all backwards….it’s the dipshi+s who obsess over made up crap about how far you lean. It’s Complete nonsense, it’s about going just as fast and not leaning at the ragged edge, through proper techniques. Take your top non chicken strip wonder bro, bragging about just how fast he is….and bring him to any of the regional racetracks, suit him up against some the nations lower ranked, but qualified motorcycle racers, and watch boy wonder chicken strip, get lapped twice! Better yet, take any one of these motorcycle influencers here on UA-cam flapping their gums, (even ones talking nonsense with Some horribly broken English), give them the best bike, best tires, and watch them pee their pants, at speeds, the over 60s senior citizen race circuit are doing. Don’t fall for this horse crap, just keep learning, being smart, and eating up road, and you’ll be fine. I like chicken, jackasses not so much!
Boo yaaahh
If you're worried about chicken strips, just go ahead and sell your bike before you get hurt...
You didn’t watch the video 💀 you should do this exercise so that you are able lo lean this far, just in case you reallly need it. It doesn’t mean you have to always lean this much.
Exactly!!
@amzuppa
I watched the video and I see a video goading noobs to lean more and they will do it on street corners and bust their butt.
JOIN a club and get trained.
@@amzuppa Exactly, yesterday I went wide because I was afraid to lean in. About 200km into the trip, all backside roads, an increasing corner radius caught me off guard. I trail braked enough to clear the corner but it would require a high lean angle which I was afraid of and went wide. Thankfully I braked hard enough that I was perfectly okay, also wearing good gear, the motorcycle is also untouched because I ditched it into sand. Decided to sign up for track courses, the ability to lean hard is crucial for safety.
@@halo-7797or just enter turns with proper speed then you will never need to lean more or just ride the bike and eventually you will lean. I am 100% sure you do not have more than 5k km on the bike
I think throttle and clutch control at slow speeds along with counter-steering and reaction time are essential motorcycle skills. That and the proper use of the brakes maybe.
I feel like if you need to scratch out the chicken strips then you probably care too much about what other people think 🤔 just ride and be you, not everyone wants or has a need to lean that far. Maybe they just use it to commute 🤷♂️
When I commute any turn or corner, I can I’m trying to lean and get that back tire to slip so it doesn’t really matter if it’s a commuter and I ride a 400😅
@@OnlyTheReal_RPM "I'm trying to lean and get that back tire to slip"
The words of a fool who will end his life way sooner than need be...
@@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne lol it’s called throttle control I definitely don’t do it around cars an if I go down I’m wearing full gear an going less than 60 so I’ll be fine 🥳
@@OnlyTheReal_RPM You sound like a man or something. Trying to do crazy sh17 just to satisfy your curiosity lol.
watched one video, ended up watching about 10 more of your content - really useful stuff and i really like how you back up what you're saying by showing us in person you riding, earned a sub
l didn't get to 76 by trying to clean my tyres of chicken strips...l currently ride a Street Triple 675r running Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2s.. My 'chicken strips' are currently 15 mm which after the last few changes of similar tyres is pretty well the norm for me...l consider the strip a safety margin rather than prove I'm a bad arse biker.... In my experience tyre profile, compound, tyre pressure and suspension all play a part in the ability to lean. Another point I'd like to make is l live in Spain where during the summer months the road temperature is very high compared to 'winter' which makes the tyre hotter and 'stickier' giving the feeling of confidence. also the suspension feels different, temperature possible effecting the damping fluid..
I like to brush up on road safety, cornering, and slow speed exercises, many thanks for your excellent tutorials.
With the rush to learn how to RIDE our bikes, a lot of new riders skip over maintenance and care. Topics like changing wheels/tires or performing periodic maintenance would be cool.
You can replace a battery, change the oil and filter by yourself.
And thats pretty much it.
For the rest, you need proper mechanic tools..
@@Mespera3011 brakes, chain maintenance, all fluids, filters, tire pressure, battery, lights. for that you don't need a lot tools. no one is telling you to do ducati valves in your drive way.
I could not care less about what others think! I have been riding Harleys for 54 years now and not once have I worried about "chicken strips" and I am still here and riding.
My pals who are brothers, own a Harley custom shop. They both have gone down several times. Transition from street to gutter to driveway the main protagonist.
Well you're just a tough Harley Davison Riders man 😂😂 Sheep following the flock , The tough Harley Rider Image is so 1970's 😵💫🙈😵💫🙈👎👎 Stuff Harley Davison Bikes & that Shit Biker image 👎👎👎
Topic - actions and how to practice them when emergency arises in the middle of the corner while in full lean.
Also, I think one day you should delve into suspension settings check and setup as many rides bikes with suspension setup completely wrong.. Keep up the good job, love your channel!
All right, adding "Emergency in a corner" to the poll🙂
I second correct suspension setup tips
@@raoulrr I don't have adjustable suspension at this moment (I miss 690 Duke R, that suspension was incredible), so we have to wait for this😉
Too many variables in suspension set up. It will be different for every rider and bike combination. Unless we all ride the same bike and we all are the same hight and weight.
@@MotoControlEn I'm in the same boat, sold my ninja zx-6r with fully adjustable suspension and bought a new 390 duke, but I've always been missing the full knowledge on how to do suspension adjustments correctly (all my adjustments on my old bike were kinda by feel, and not by any rules) and I might upgrade my 390's suspension at some point or just get a 790 duke later
Instructions on how to be streetwise dealing with traffic, for safety.
There will be a lot of that soon, more than 1 video😉
Dandanthefireman has a great channel for this
Be constantly "proactive" in 360 situational awareness... i.e.: know where ur escapes are constantly before u need them ! And then, pay attention to "traffic flow"... Just because u can go 0-60 in 3 sec., doesn't mean u should EVERYWHERE u go ! Inner city and residential neighborhoods are BAD places to "try and go 100mph" ! Constantly "pick ur spots and choose ur battles" and don't get impatient when "your choosing NOT to battle" ! "Be fine with being behind"... you'll move ahead eventually... Just because u can lane split, doesn't mean u have to, constantly, at the same pace ! Out here, where the 10 meets the 405, is a "shitshow of mergers" in AND out ! Lane splitting through that right side where it's happening, is damn near suicide! It's actually WAY better, to hang out in the left lanes, then, as a bike, u can easily make ur merge long after everyone is done ! And slide in quite easily ! By minimizing chance, u thus minimize "risk", by avoiding certain risks altogether ! Put the situation/odds in your favor as much as u can ! 🤷🤙 Hope this helps and ride well !
Tips and exercises for practicing emergency braking from high speeds (60-100kmh) on a bike without abs. I can more or less comfortably do a stoppie at slow speed, but at higher speeds I have no confidence that I will be able to reduce brake pressure in time not to flip the bike. A video on this topic or a comment from you would be great. Especially since no other channel has a video about this topic as far as I am aware at least
Excellent topic! If you're going straight, it's surprising how hard you can squeeze (not stab!) the brake lever. Start squeezing and once you feel the weight transfer onto the front (a bit of fork dive) then progressively increase pressure (about 1-2 second from initial squeeze until squeeze pretty hard). Repeat and continue building up until you're squeezing pretty hard.
All right, I'm adding this to a poll. The reason nobody makes a video about that is because it's hard to film, you need big enough place to repeatedly show braking from high speeds. I'll be able to record 80km/h, I'll try 100 but no promises😄
I would also be interested in emergency braking from high speeds
Next Topis : Where to look in the corner. A video explaining exactly how to approach a corner following your eyesight. I haven't found any videos on UA-cam that really show this in detail. People are always talking about this in general but never show this on example video, where to look exactly. How far into the next turn, for example. Also, when to start the apex and when to accelerate out of the corners based on what you see. I would appreciate a video like this, really detailed and focused on correct vision through the corner.
Nice, added to the poll!
Been riding a long time and I have seen many many videos on UA-cam that go into detail with going into corners and where to look.
always appreciate that you explain your lessons from the perspective of safety-first. I keep remembering that line a motor salesman taught me, "never forget, that everytime you hit the road, you are gambling your life and death. always ride safe!"
I think it's a bit too dramatic, but there is a truth in that😉
@@MotoControlEn better be dramatic* than be dead 😅
*I think it's good for a "saying" to be dramatic, to make us remember them more strongly 😃
@@bmo3778 any incident i get into... cops like "whos fault?"
mine...
"howd you figure that? you just said she ran a red and teeboned you?"
i chose to ride, chose not to watch out, chose to be here...
Ride to arrive. If these stripes worry you, it's because you have a small weener. Nobody other than a small portion of other bikers care. Women certainly don't
Ofc I have a small weener, I'm a youtuber, baby. It's all just a huge ego-booster for us, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
Another brilliant video, thank you! I tend not to ride in wet weather. Primarily because it just isn't much fun. However, if I do get caught out I'd appreciate some discussion on riding in the wet, types of tyres and any other tips to improve safety. Hope this helps you.
lower air presure it lays lager contact patch and use tire with more tread and center channel to channel off water.
the only tyre i now use is metzler sportec. i havent had anything quite the same. it grips. it steers. it wears properly. it... iunno. i aint changing now. pre-order a few sets.
and im a moto courier...so yeah.... i use tyres.
ignore suggestions to lower tyre pressure. wtf? you want less contact area for more pressure per cm^2 to cut through any water, rather than go the other way...
why do dune buggies have fat tyres?
pfft, rain dont hurt. until you get nearly two years straight of it!
@@paradiselost9946 on my original ninja 600 loved metzlers better than any other top brand just worked great on that bike. Now my later ZX6 found other brands that worked well michelin and pirelli seemed to work good on them. I found over the decades every bike has 1 or 2 tires that just fit the handling characteristics better than others. On a few it too me 4 to 6 sets to find the right ones. Once found a perfect match and they discontinued the damn model LOL oh I was pissed never did find another set that was as good in that bike.
@@RT22-pb2pp darn tootin. tyre selection is... challenging. im always a bit amazed with super motard, how do they decide which tyres to run and how many sets do they waste by simply trying for a day then tossing as theyre crap? oh yeah... they got cash to splash, lol.
change that aspect ratio, and suddenly the radius is different. now the amount of scrub between the inner and outer points of the contact patch are different, its following a different arc... so the same amount of lean you threw in on 14070 will be utterly different to a 14080, and if you happen to throw a 15065 on then things get really unpredictable... whilst a bike doesnt have a diff, the contact patch and curve of the wall accomplishes much the same task. any scrub in that contact patch is losing traction. there aint much traction on a bike. we want ALL of it!
sidewall radius must coincide with steering geometry and lean angles and the line one is taking...
some really concerted harmony going on between parts that most people cant even start to contemplate with bike tyres...
@@paradiselost9946 Tires and susension settings are the big ones cause bike rider and road conditions are all variables so there is no perfect set up or tires for any 2 people. it is a feel thing and a riding style thing. what works for me may not work for anyone else. These are the things others cannot help with it is trial and error for each person
Many years ago I had a Honda CD200. Yes, a 200. I ground the foot pegs on it. But it was easy, you did not have to lean far over to do it.
I do not have chicken strips on my ‘98 bandit, I have wisdom strips. They show I am now wise enough corner with a margin for the unexpected. Like a rabbit in the road.
I am not trying to get to the morgue as quick as I can, I am trying to get to my destination.
When I still lived in my father’s house (30 odd years ago) there was a chap in the village in the same school year as me.
By the time I moved out at 25 he had written off more motorcycles than I have owned in the following 30 years. He had no chicken strips, he had road rash.
❤ wisdom stripes ❤ Good one! ❤
Topic 1 : throttle input on exit of a corner. From neutral throttle in the middle of a corner to max throttle, when to initiate acceleration, how much and how fast should the wrist movement be?
Topic 2: Ride a twisty road and talk us through the fast ride (ex: I'm closing throttle now, I'm gently braking, now I open throttle 5%, now I'm max throttle)
By the way, love your videos.
All right, will add first topic, but will not add the second, because there are no twisty roads in the area😁
Topic- Though I've seen you explain that you need to increase lean angle in the turn when learning to lean, what I had problems learning when I was young was on how to actually do this. Increasing the speed will stand you up, and it's not really intuitive for people to countersteer it out a little bit more and let it fall/catch it with throttle, without overdoing it. or to let out the gas a bit to let the bike drop more and pick up the speed to hold the angle, there's different times for different methods and I think it'd provide great depth for people
Ok, added to the poll!
counter steering push on right bar to go right push left to go left try it in parking lot be ready small push will force quick lean in fast. in stright line push on right bar bike will lean right fast and easy practice it you can slalom a bike with just light pushes side to side it is fun. it is how you make a fast entrance and get leaned in fast and smooth slowly build up you will be shocked than weigh shift is not even needed bike does the work.
I recall an instance when I was riding home from Mexico in my Camry. I was doing right about 80mph going north of San Diego, on the I5, as I had just glanced at it. All of a sudden I get this revving engine sound. (not my car) Two bike riders passed me. One on each side. They passed like I was standing still. They both had to be well over 100mph. Dont get me wrong. I have crossed the triple digit mark just about everytime I ever hit the freeway on my own two wheels. The thing of it was that both of them passed me on one wheel. And they kept it up until I lost sight of them. When I finally got out of the car I had to check for "Chicken Strips" on my backside.
Thanks for making these safety educational vids they are very helpful and fun to watch, love your sense of humor.
I've been following Motojitsu for a while now and even purchased his books. However after watching a few of you video's I will also purchase your course to see where it differs. I keep a very open mind and understand that everyone rides differently, but I've just found your channel so I have to explore :). +1 sub.
Step one: don't care what other people think about how far you lean, since there's no point in leaning that far on the street.
Chicken strip gone and then crashed strip is the new problem 😅
Hi Andrei, I have asked more than one time for a video regarding riding in the rain, a situation that can be tricky even to seasoned rider.
You may include the differences on braking and accelerating, in wet conditions, motorcycles that have ABS and traction control and those that don't have such devices.
Thanks and all the best from Brazil. ✌
I ride In the uk my bike has no traction control or abs literally just be gentle on the throttle try not to lean much break gently and early both front and back break and don’t chop your throttle and you will be fine
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Thanks man. That's what I've been doing for nearly 30 years. My bike, just like yours, doesn't have traction control or ABS and is pretty heavy because it is a Harley Softail Deuce but I always feel safe riding such beast even in the rain.
The reason by which I keep asking Andrei about a video regarding riding in wet conditions is because I always think I can learn more than what I already know and I also may recycle something that I think I know but that can be wrong.
Andrei always give us some insight to some detail that we, average riders, even if we are experienced, do not see, or perceive.
Anyway, thanks again for the goodwill and for the advice.
All the best from Brazil.✌
All right, adding this to the poll!
@@MotoControlEn
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practice in any condition is key and most hate rain so never practice in a parking lot in rain but lower tire pressure and go to parking lot and get feel for brakes and traction in controlled area. smooth is key no sudden stops or take offs smooth is key ease into every motion.
Very good video. On the road it´s wise not to use all the wheel and keep some rubber as a safety gap. I let about 1cm unused, just for safety reasons. Scrapping the pegs on every corner usually is the prelude of a crash.
How to recover a powerslide.
Which rain repellents and anti-fog visa treatments work.
Any chance for excercise cone layouts? With distances in between etc.
Thank you!
I would like to see a video on gravel roads in general.
I'm still fairly new riding and turning into gravel roads or parking lots is a big one for me.
Also clutch/throttle control leaving side road parking areas that are on slanted roadways.
All right, will do some gravel if I get a chance!
@@MotoControlEn awesome! Thank you!
What bike are you riding I’m feeling a lot of love for a super moto right now
I love that bike I don't know why. I have a Kawasaki Z125. I love machines which are a small as possible while getting the job done haha. The Z125 is fun and I love it, but I want something full sized, and gives me enough height to significantly change my center of gravity in corners....Like a full sized bike.
I recently upgraded my bike from 150cc to 400cc. I hope you can make video about riding wet road/rain. I encountered a lot more tire skidding using 400cc bike compared to 150cc moped.
try fortnine. i just watched that video two days ago
Good, I'm adding this to the poll🙂
The fireman analogy had me rolling 😅😅
Did you just commit a crime?- dandanfireman
Hello coach!!
May I address something?
It is possible to make a turn at the same speed with different lean angles. The body itself leverages the center of mass and thanks to the deformation of tires, you can make the turn at high speeds without reaching the tyre's limit, thus creating some chicken strips. On the contrary, if you just stay still on top of the bike, in order to make a turn successfully you'll need to lean a lot when going at high speeds.
This is similar to the differences between the English / Sport riding styles as seen on Enduro / MotoGP disciplines. On dirt you really want to push the bike down to drift and ride fast, whereas in MotoGP the straighter the bike makes the turn, the more power they can apply when exiting it.
Any thoughts of this matter?
PDTA: I always have like 1 and a half finger-wide chicken strips and I consider myself a medium to fast rider in corners.
Hi! Yes, if you mean the body position, counterbalancing/hanging off the bike - i have a vid about that: ua-cam.com/video/o2i5tbwsMas/v-deo.html
Look where you are going and ride as fast as you can stop , you will soon scrub your tyres properly , if you look at tyres then you will see those who actually accelerate through corners and those who break or drag , just getting rid of the bobbles will not help when you need help , eyes where you want to go , straighten everything , use it all and keep it hot . The learning curve is steep solitary and satisfying , focus and zone in 👍
Tip for longer video:I'd like to see overview of most common types of crashes and what to do to avoid them(or at least mitigate them if falling) (accelerating into T intersections, overtaking, wrong line on twisty roads etc. ). Keep doing great work!
That's a tip for multiple videos, and they are coming soon😉
Hi, love the videos a fairly new rider here! Got a question from the leaning video. I like counterleaning for increased visibility. Do you think it makes sense to counterlean into turns and and 'kiss the mirror' only to straighten the bike when approaching obstacles (manhole covers, puddles) and/or braking? Does it upset the stability during a turn? I seem to do that quite a bit with no ill effect to this date, but not sure if this is a bad habit in the long run. Thanks!
Counterleaning makes sense if you expect the need to quickly make the bike upright (to increase the turning radius or to brake heavily or even to change direction completely, like they do in gymkhana). It also makes sense if you expect to slide the rear and use your inner foot as a way to keep the bike rubber side down while sliding (supermoto style). On the other hand, it may be counterproductive if you need to quickly tighten a turn (without sliding) since increasing the lean angle when you're already counterleaning is harder to perform quickly. So for normal street riding your best bet is to lean with the bike, and only counterleaning or leaning more into the turn when you need to make quick adjustments to the bike's trajectory.
Idea for topic - maintenance throttle vs acceleration during cornering (while leaned) and their respective impact on traction. Cheers!
Good, will add to the poll
This is super helpful and interesting!!! I now have chicken strips about 3/4" and it surprised me to see them actually...
When I ride through the mountains and curves on tarmac my leaning feels great, as it feels like the angle of lean is substantial like if I were almost all the way. But apparently I have not hit that max...
Yeah, having some chicken strips is ok for me😊
Over the past few years I've noticed my 'Chicken strips' lessen during the summer months.. This is on the same motorcycle ..Street Triple 675r plus same make and series of tyre. Possibly because the tyres become hotter and just feels more in contact with the road which in turn gives more confidence in the feel of the Bike when leaned over...
most street tires never get to very edge and if it does you really need to be on track for that kind of leaning, where it is safer to truly ride on the edge, pun intended. ridden for decades and even ripping on canyon or twisties on street i have some chicken strips as squids call them I call those the racing edge, on track they disappear quick as I can really lean on a track where surface is smother and more consistent traction than streets.
RT 22 Yep, spot on. If you're getting to the edge of your tyres on public roads, you're going to hurt yourself and or someone else sooner rather than later.
use an app that measure lean angle. Bet youre not leaned over as much as you think
@@diaryofanolddad easier than app lean bike until pegs touch and you can measure the angle. I have after market rear sets if the peg touches you angle is crashing lol. A little basic geometry will give you lean at point peg hits if you drag peg if not then app may be close but to be exact app has to be set when bike and phone is at perfect 90 degrees and still probably not accurate without all bike parameters factored exactly
Some information on the balance between body weight and counter-steering when leaning through a corner would be great. Cheers
That's a bit tricky, because they are not directly related and used in very different proportions in different sports applications, it'll be a very huge topic. But I'll think if I can put together anything cohesive😁
@@MotoControlEn maybe create situations of lean where you'd need more and describing a range of situations, where the inbetween the lines would fill itself out by learning a spread of different situations
Haha, i loved the joke abouting leaning too much and boom there's a new video on dandanthefiremans channel
TOPIC - caveats / differences in the exercises if you ride motorcycle with dirt road tires (like in example VRM275 on Yamaha TW125) - Thanks! : )
I'm not an off road guy really, but suspect the answer would be - less cornering speed and more distance to allow for less grip for braking😉
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Mr. Puff is on DellBollocks case as well! I approve!
Factory!
I am interested in learning about how to navigate sharp corners with inexpensive or oem tires. I own a small Aprilia 125cc bike and am hesitant to rely on the Michelin Pilot Street OEM tires. Even when attempting circle exercises as shown in the video, I am afraid of losing traction early and potentially dropping my bike.
Excellent, you asked just the guy! I also have super-shitty tires now, so I'll make a quick video about that.
@@MotoControlEn Perfectly! I am looking forward to watch the video!
@@MotoControlEn I'd appreciate aswell, just got my Versys x 300, and it came with Pirelli MT60 (70% on, 30% off road), and i get nervous about my leaning angle because of tire shape to loose traction early
Oem tires are generally better than the skill of most riders.
@@fs3994 Probably yeah haha, often times I feel the tire slipping for just a few milliseconds or so, thats why I have like no trust in them.
Thank you very much for all the Bike Tips I have since become a better rider though still struggle with bending curves on the road I am from South Africa and follow your videos all the time. Riding M50 Boulevard and U-turns are still a bit of a nightmare for me
2up riding considerations for balance, body position, etc...
All right, adding it to the poll!
In 2017 I tried to sell my Ninja 600 quick because I came across hard times. But no one wanted to buy it because it had no chicken strips, very low mileage, and I was asking for almost half of what it was worth. But I was just trying to sell it quick. So they claimed it to be a track bike and called me a scammer online. Although I have never ridden on a track in my life. So seeing this, I even had it safetied to satisfy them. Yet everyone was suspicious and kept asking if it was a track bike. I started questioning them on why people thought that. They said because nobody leans that low in the streets.... But I do haha.
Whoever it was that bought that bike got an insane deal because I sold it for half its worth. It was literally brand new.
Hi,i have a Ducati multistrada 1200. I was thinking of buying a 2nd bike for learning wheelies,stoppies, doing motogymkhana etc..I already practice on my ducati but going to the limit is not fun because even a small crash on that bike can be thousands of Euros. Do you think an old Honda CB500 is a good choice for this?
Hey Andrei, your videos helped me a lot but one thing is missing (or I cant find it) the best way to do a emergency break. Everybody says something different. The best way to stop at every speed.
can you make a video on mirrors; mirror position, changing lanes using mirrors, kinds of mirrors (bar end vs upright). My bigest fears are changing lanes around other vehicles
What should be proper body position in different situations. Beginning with who to sit on a bike, progressing through normal street riding ending with dragging knees.
How to train your vision. Explain how/where to look in different riding situations.
Vision will come very soon (in fact the first video is here: ua-cam.com/video/8NO08zW1_70/v-deo.html ), and there are 2 videos about body position on the channel. And knee dragging topic I already added to the poll😉
Those unworn areas are also the area where the tyre has reduced grip until the rubber has been scrubbed off to remove the release compound. It is a chicken and egg situation, the area has reduced grip until it is scuffed but cannot be scuffed until it is used.
Hi I think one of the most important things i couldn't find anywhere is what are the most important skills a rider should develop in order to be safe. Improvement skills for an emergency like something on the road, like oil, car, or even person
Visibility is probably the top - thinking about where other vehicle's blind spots are and whether they can see you, means you are proactively thinking about what to do if they pull out unexpectedly etc and will react faster. Not every accident can be anticipated, but these are the most common and most dangerous. FortNine has a great video showing how and why car drivers don't see motorcycles
Really useful videos ... Thanks slot . I've changed my bike from a cruiser to a racing style it's really light bot because of a bold gas tank in front, my testicles really suffers in riding do you have any useful tip for this ?🙏🙏
Yes, move your butt further back😁
Love your channel and your videos. Keep doing what you doing.
Thank you! Will do!
Hey can you make a video about how to maintain chains.... My chain worn out just within 13000 kms, I haven't maintained in last monsoon properly.
Dude, I love your videos, humour, and most of all, how clear you are! One of the absolute best instructors here on the Tube. Stay well and safe.
Ok.... I have @8mm chicken strips for road riding.... I am cool with that... But.... I notice that its comfortable to lean... to a point... then the extra lean angle after that, the bike seems super unstable. Tyres are amazing, Michelin Road 6s soild as a rock, bike is 2004 Speed Triple 955i. Just feel that last bit of lean is out of reach. Maybe others have this too?
Yes, it happens to me with every unfamiliar bike or when I start with big lean angles after a long pause (like after a winter). It's usually a mental thing, the more you gradually try lean more and more - the more relaxed you'll become and it will become less scary. Just make sure you practice it in a safe environment and in full gear 😉 BTW, don't really worry about chicken strips, they are just a silly bragging thing, to be honest😁
Do you also ride in circle using the friction zone, or the clutch is permanent disengaged? I guess it depends on the speed you ride, right? At what speed (km/h) you put your fingers away from the clutch? Thank you very much.
from Philippines i love your videos
I was at a bike meet on my V Max. There were other ones there but they were all bling straight liners. I was parked a way down the street sitting near it. Mine is all about performance & cornering. Its non standard in the suspension with frame mods & stage 7 tune. Well to cut this short. Two dudes walking past when one says to the other, "there's something you never see on a V Max". the other one says "what"? Answer, "no chicken strips". lol. BTW iv'e been riding since a very young age & in my younger day's road raced in Ulster & the IOM. Thanks for your channel. Its interesting & informative especially for new rider's.Keep up the good work.
They're basically just gay
Discuss your experience with bias and radial tyres in terms of lean angle and other stuff.
After years and years of having chicken strips, all it took was one 400km day of continuous twisties of various degrees in california to forever improve my cornering immensely!
Honest question: don't you have to take into account the dirt and grease/slime in the chicken strips?
This is one of the first exercises I started doing even before seeing it on this or any video and I find myself having to do it again and again when the chicken strips have rebuilt (for example after weeks of normal riding) before I can ride aggressively. In this exercise, when the chicken strips are there, even if I have practiced to the point of scraping the pegs, even if I know the limit, I just cannot immediately lean the bike: I will feel the bike being unstable and the rear slightly sliding every time I progressively lean into the chicken strips. They will slowly clean themself up, tiny strip by tiny strip after each round of few laps and, every time a tiny strip cleans, if feels like you can lean that strip with much more stability, but it takes quite some laps on each side.
It seems it's not just about skill, but also about grip which can change soo much (even with just some leafs or stones on the ground, but also with a thin film of dirt on the chicken strip) and I think it's dangerous if you don't know or ignore this. Of course you will quickly realize how much grip matters doing the exercise, but if by some turn of events you have practiced it only on clean tires and then suddenly you try to do the exercise on dirty chicken strips, you will find yourself baffled because you are struggling to lean and if in that moment you go "it's just psychological, you know how to lean, just lean it" and then push it, I think you will easily low side. I know I did a couple of times, at least once by mistake and another one by trying to test this theory and I cannot think of another explanation.
I would like a video with guidance on developing kills for filtering through traffic. For example how to estimate if my bike fits between two cars.
All right, I'll add it!
How to set the proper motorcyce rebound and compression for your bike.
Hi Andrei, greetings from The Netherlands!
I wish to hear more about motor maintainance and safety margins in this. Should I strictly stick to those of the manual (Kawasaki ER-6N) for the chain, gears, brakes? I'm a very new rider, and a keen hobby mechanic, seeking to enjoy own but safe maintainance.
Keep up your careful, smart, great videos!
Chicken strips are also affected by the width ofvthe rim and tire, and the profile of the tire. Ive ridden on tires where it is impossible to wear to the edge of the tire due to the profile shape. Back in the late 80's, when wider tires were first becoming available, people would put wider than stock tires on the rear because it looked cool, but the narrow rim gave those tired a squared profile and the edge of the tread was sucked in, never to be used.
😅 I always used to go 1 size up!!
I have a hard time reaching that last half inch of tire. I was going in circles getting comfy with lean angle, and it’s like I can’t counter steer any harder to get the last bit at 20-25mph. It’s like an invisible resistance, at that point my inner hand has to support more of my weight which it cannot do while pushing the clip on forward
Hi mate! Will you add content related to sport bikes at some point? I love all your content, and I also know that in Argentina sportbikes are not particularly accessible, but maybe tips and tricks on a RC250 about body position might enrich your range of topics. Thanks! Keep it up :)
As the master of going faster Noriyuki Haga once sad: „Only ride within your comfort zone. You‘ll get faster over time.“
Didn't know borat done motorcycles !
I commute my FZ6 in a moderately sized flat Florida city. There aren't many opportunities for knee drags and im not moto gp leaning in rush hour traffic.
Greetings from Spain. I'm 52 year old and ride a CBR 600 F4i, a CBF 600S and a GSF 650S. Mi concern it's about the fatigue while riding, how to prevent the fatigue? and the mistakes associated to a this fatigue, especially when ride for more than 4 or 5 hours? Thanks in advance and thanks for your advices, they are very useful!.
Four or five hours in a comfortable cage is tiresome. Your half a century old. Take more breaks and get a touring bike.
@@fs3994 Thanks for point the obvious about my age; and not, i don't want another touring bike, now i have two.
@@G.Seguin Then suck it up buttercup.
man i love this channel,
not only yougive us education regarding riding bikes but you also give us chances to choose what to learn in the future,
gotta sub now so i'll know if something came up 😁👌
rev high brotha
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Unusual thing about me, I've only ridden small cc pitbikes and sorts on the track and easily lean with them dragging knees and everything. Do those skills actually transfer to riding a bigger cc bike on a canyon?
Behemoth? Mr Moto Control has a better English vocabulary than many native English speakers!
It's the same word in Russian, so just in this case it was easy😄
Get the correct sized tire as well...Fat tires that balloon on the wheel have a lot of unusable vertical tread...
Hello Andrey, I would like a video on how to pass a truck or other large vehicles on the route or highway safely.
All right, will add it to the list!
Can you give us some techniques to improve our riding during rainy days.
Learned a lot from your tutorials bro 👌
interesting and very helpful! thanks a lot
Roundabouts and cornering or taking on the twisties thank you
I'll do it later, once I travel to twistier place, in BA everything is flat and straight😄
@MotoControlEn I'm a new rider and live in a busy city where there are a lot of bumpy roads, dips, train tracks, etc and not so flat surfaces. Can you make video on what to do and how to ride through these pavements to make it safer for street riders. Thanks
Should we always keep our body neutral when street riding? Usually this is a great position but what is best to do in those sleeping 180 corners that go through mountains or forests?😊
I already have a video on body position: ua-cam.com/video/o2i5tbwsMas/v-deo.html
@@MotoControlEn Yeah, I've seen them. I might just be a bit greedy 😅
Riding in Quebec (where our roads literally look like they’ve been bombed), the people who don’t have chicken strips are dead
I remember my first time going on my límits and i will never forget that its more then 12 years now and how amazing it feels.
You had me rolling with “doesn’t involve kitchen ware” 😂🇬🇧
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Even in Japan, it is called “amaring”(””余り:amari/Surplus """輪:ring/ring)and is looked down upon by some people who have an inferiority complex.
Similarly, there are people with small engine displacement condescending.
I had never heard the term "chicken stripes" before. And to be honest, during my active time on a motorcycle between 1988 and 2014, no one ever asked me how I had worn down my tires on that motorcycle. And why should I push a heavy touring motorcycle (1990 Yamaha XVZ 13 td) to the tire's cornering limit if I don't have to? What does it say? Does one now become a bad driver because one currently has "chicken stripes" on the tire? The tire pattern only says that this tire has not been pushed to its limit recently. It says nothing about the driver's driving style. Does this tire have to be pushed to its limit? In terms of driving dynamics, some motorcycles cannot go down that far. The wider the tire, the more you have to lean into the curve to take the same curve as a motorcycle with narrow tires. Heavy choppers with thick rear tires (Suzuki M109r), which are designed more for the ¼ mile, touch the asphalt much sooner when leaning than the rear tire reaches its limit. And from what I see, most aggressive motorcyclists judge other drivers by how they drive their motorcycles. This raises the question of who loses their motorcycle on the road more often and who draws more lines and color accents into the asphalt with their crashed motorcycle frame. The driver with the chicken stripes or the driver who went over the tire limit? I prefer to ride with drivers who ride defensively and not with people who want to criticize you and your driving style based on the tires. Everyone should ride in a way that gets them to their destination. And critics should rather examine themselves and see whether their driving style is safe for everyone. And anyone who really wants to push themselves to the limit should go to the race track. There he can test whether he is the hero against like-minded drivers.
Thank you for making this Tremendously helpful video
Take care my friend
My pleasure😊
Is it just me or I’m not the only one with this perception! I just started moto school, been driving cars for 20 years, never on a motorcycle, moped or scooter. When riding 125cc on first 2 school sessions, I felt that as being more of a toy than a normal motorcycle. Very easy to control, jerky throttle, not enough power, but when I switch to 600+cc bike, everything felt planted, much more heavy but a lot more controllable even though is a bit unforgiving on corners in not leaned and throttle controlled properly. I was feeling more afraid to lean the small CC one on the corners that I do with the bigger one. And now my suggestion for a topic, making ♾️ turns with just one hand, pushing on the lever which is inside the turn. I was asked to do this one handed with a stretched arm and always pushing on the lever to counter steer the bike, which I find a bit strange because I have to control my body position on the bike and body lean angle also! Maybe you have a video about already but i am quite new subscriber and haven’t checked all you videos yet! Thank you for the lessons and sorry for long a$$ comment! 😂
All right, added 1-handed figure 8's to the poll! 125cc was scary to lean probably (I'm not sure because I wasn't there, obviously😄) because of tires - on 125s they usually put the cheapest stuff with more "square" profile. Which is quite good for transporting 5 people at once at 25km/h, but not for cornering.
TOPIC IDEA = a video on the differences bewtween standard (manual shifting) and automatic (DCT, CVT) motorcycle RIDING techniques and SKILLS required please.
You’ve missed out a very important part, body position. Which has an effect on lean angle, the more you lean off the less lean angle you need. Which means that the more you stay in the centre of the bike the more tyre you’ll use. If you have chicken strips on the road it could mean that your body position is very good. So don’t worry about it.
Andrei! How can we as riders, get our message across to drivers, to watch out for us too and to be more patient on the road. Unfortunately I was involved in a very serious motor car accident because someone made a silly decision and was in a hurry. Its been 10 months and I’m still in recovery waiting to ride again. If driving schools would only teach drivers that there are cyclists and motorcycle riders on the too! Sure I’ll get back on my bike, but it sure would be nice to know someone on the road is looking out for me! Thanks. Alf
Sorry to hear about your accident, get well soon! About your question - I don't know, really. I think the ideal solution would be more education for drivers and riders, with more emphasis on learning more different road situations etc. But the problem is that big long learning program would cost a lot, and for society that would be unacceptable if it would become obligatory. So I don't know what to do about that, really.
Don't expect others to be responsible for your safety. Even newer cars with active radar may not pick up a motorcycle in time to avoid an accident.
My right side is bigger than my left side. Still after 30 years, I am less confident in right turns.
Most of the footage is from Argentina, i recognized the places haha Great video
Topic. Roundabouts In The Rain! i.e The Balance Of Clutch & Throttle & Lean Angle.
Thank You.
As a very old man now, this thing about some people caring about how the edges of the tread pattern on their tyres look is beyond me. Who cares? I never cared on sports bikes, when I could ride them (fucked up knees stopped that) and I don't care on cruisers. The point of riding is not to 'look cool' to other people, and if you're concerned about that you'll like come a cropper when you do something you should have known better than. Ride the damned bike, and enjoy it, just ride it sensibly and safe. If you ride like a lunatic, there's a better than even chance you'll die like a lunatic.
4:10 Where is this lot? I see it all the time! It's famous to me at this point.