[259] First Look At The New KW1 Lishi Pick and Decoder
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Is the New KW1 Lishi Tool A Game Changer? Let’s Find Out!
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Lishi tools are historically utilized in the automotive industry and NOW they are starting to appear in the residential / commercial lock market in the form of the Kwikset (KW1) and Schlage (SC1) keyways. These are two of the most common residential locks that one can find in North American. What is so special about the Lishi 2-in-one Pick and Decoder is it has the ability to have a true novice learn how to pick open a lock very quickly.
How does this become a potential game changer?
1. Novices can learn to pick open a lock quickly.
2. Where this tool really stands out is it can be used to decode a picked lock IN SECONDS.
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What are the potential implications?
This makes it so someone could potentially pick, decode, and code cut a key in minutes. This could be done for a happy customer or for more insidious reasons. This tool does impact the potential security of two of the most common residential locks.
Fail-Safes
1. Lock smiths won’t typically cut a code cut key for someone they do not know or someone that can not reasonably show ownership of the lock.
2. This tool can only be currently purchased by lock smiths
3. Most unauthorized entry comes from destructive entry and not through lock picking. As nice as it looks in the movies picking a real lock takes time and patience and is much more difficult in a “field setting” vs a “lab setting.”
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i don't see many people buying that lishi decoder it does make it a valuable training aid and makes anyone a picker of that lock brand/model in a few minutes time. as far as criminal elements, i don't think it would be widely used.
Thanks for sharing!
I want to buy the LISHI tool for English lock exactly for LASSA, KALE, ABUS and like that from you or can you tell me please where can I buy it?
I would refer to my last reply
It's a cool idea but not a game changer IMO. You still have to pick the lock...so tension it, overcome spools etc. It makes it easier I guess. It won't work on many keyways too, ones that have paracentricity. The decoding aspect is cool.
The decoding aspect is the more important part because of the fact in the United States Kwikset and Schlage is used on the vast majority of residential locks.
Obviously in the right hands with someone with the knowledge it can be a very powerful tool but to the average person it will not be too helpful.
I just find it interesting how much power does come with it to someone that knows how to use it
The decoding part is the ONLY gamechanging thing
this sooo needs to be in a movie! Should my character be a computer hacker as well? It would be like The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo but with lockpicking. I would like her to get in and out of cars as well. How convenient, she needs a car, she just gets in one and drives off. The only problem with this is I don't have any f****** money! If you wanna send me some I'll take it. I'll send you my details you can mail me a check or just deposit it straight into my bank account if you feel like it.
@@jhowardsupporter More importantly, who asked?
Yeah-no,the guy in the video believes the bullshit hollywood movies where they show people just insert a lock pick into a lock and the lock magically pops open,don't befuddle the poor sucker by bringing up the fact that locks have different keyways and key bittings AKA depth of key cuts and spacings.
I wanted to ask for information which Lishi do you recommend for Italian European locks?
Any Lishi that matches the profile of the lock you are working on
Awesome. If you don't mind me asking? Where did you get yours. I've been looking for one a few weeks now. And can only find them for automotive. Great review as always bud.👍
Thank you for the kind words! Send me an email and I can try to answer the rest of your question
Would a 6 pin KW work on a 5 pin ? Like Would I be better off buying 5 pin and 6 pin or just a 6 pin?
It does work but it adds stress to the tool. If you can only afford one I would get the 6 pin but I would prefer strongly to have both
So does this go in any keyways? If IT do i might need one for 6 and 7 pin ruko's it would be a great tool to have, and i don't think it Will be a big game changer in locksport as we mostly use pick's but out in the real World i think it does
It goes directly into the keyway ans only works for the keyway it is designed for. At least for the US market having these in KW1 and SC1 covers the vast majority of residential locks which is significant
@@HelpfulLockPicker ok then someone need to make one for ruko's i would deffently buy that but i don't relly think i need one for u.s locks
I had the KW1 for a bit but i returned it and no one would answer my question. I see it is supposed to unlock deadbolts, but when i tried the regular lock, it would turn. However the actual lock on the other side was stil in the lock position and i could not turn the knob. How can the lock on key side turn, but the lock inside and knob stay locked?
It depends on the lock
Very cool to see this in use. I use the automotive lishis daily and have been considering buying the sc1 or kw1 lishi. Thanks for the upload !
Thank you, I recommend both of them they are great tools to have. I just hope they can make a Y1 version someday.
Hi, please I’m new to this business, so does it pick any kind of lock? Thanks
What decoder would I need for a master lock made by milwaukee wis lock No. 7 I know it's the same as a No. 3 but is smaller does that matter for the decoder?
If the Master Lock 1K or common off brand M1 key fits into it the M1 Decoder should work
@@HelpfulLockPicker what is the cheapest off brand I can buy to try it?
What a well designed tool. A universal one, that is if it were possible to make one that fits in petty much all keyways.... now that would be a game changer.
That would be cool but it would make it hard to have all the markings line up
@@HelpfulLockPicker Very true.
Thats a great tool!
But does it fits all lock? ..if not how do i know it fits?
it only fits the lock that is made for
only 4 KW1
Nice video & nice tool - thanks for sharing! This tool can also be used to pick the lock in a way that's easy for beginners. only thing is for me, I've never picked a kwikset lock as I have never seen one in real life (not common in New Zealand).
My video next week will show me picking a lock with one. And I also help you do some more combo lock videos as well :-) I've been enjoying yours
@@HelpfulLockPicker Ah great ... and great! hehe :D
strong NZealand people uses a heavy log to block their door from thief.
Great Video. I want to pick that one up, as well as the SC1. I have just started looking at them, and notice they have MANY different ones. Do you know if they make ones for pad locks ?I 'm still learning, have all sorts of picks, but this was also be super for a padlock.
These were initially made for car locks and now they have just branched out into some residential locks. Kwikset and Schlage (they have two schalge keyways) but as far as I know the only padlock one they have is for American Locks.
You need a Lishi tool for the specific keyway you are working on. They are not universal like lock picks.
@@HelpfulLockPicker , Thank you. I am seeing that now the more I research. I think these will not only be helpful to see what you are learning, but as well as I think they will become valuable one day, even though they might be useless :-)
These tools are good for picking but even better for decoding. It is awesome being able to pick a lock and then make a key for it. No all locks can come apart.
One thing to keep in mind is these are mostly sold only to locksmiths so they are not always the easiest thing to purchase
Being so many of them which one works on most locks?
Cool little tool. I don't think you have to worry about thieves spending over a 100 bucks on a tool, and actually learning how to use it, when there are so many destructive ways in that require almost no skill, cost, or intelligence. But good points about how it could be used.
Thanks for sharing!
Great tool!!! That is a device that is great for the locksmith and rapid decoder needs. As a lock sport enthusiast it really has limited use for me.. I want the thrill of the pick and the feedback of the lock. This seems more like a novelty - I could not find a functional purpose for the device in my hobby. It would be cool to have one just to say that you have one!
I think looking at this through the scope of someone that needs to decode locks and get into them this tool is much more than a novelty item. Not having to get out a screwdriver is a great thing.
I'm just find it interesting for someone with the know-how how powerful this tool is in North America can be because the majority of houses use the KW1 and SC1 keyway
@@HelpfulLockPicker Indeed.. with this tool someone can open any lock in the office or most homes in this state. Given I was a professional locksmith... I would be all over these!
Is there a Similar Device for Euro Cylinders? Actually i don't know if this Fits EU Cylinders lol, i'd Really Appreciate your Response!
I don't think so currently
I have a few of them, and I'm always nervous to use them, I feel I'm going to break the pick portion.
As long as you're not going to crazy on the tension you should be good
Great tool. No issue though, just make sure you don't use Kwiksets if you're serious about security.✌😎
LOL, fair statement :-)
You can get (or build) a cheap 3d printer and then start using Thingiverse customizer (or OpenSCAD) to make Schlage and Kwikset keys. That will get you a key that can be used quite a few times until the plastic fatigues (and you print another one).
Or you can print the key and bring it to a key duplication kiosk at Walmart and you can have a permanent metal key for $2.
What about a key with the restricted keyway How hard do you think it would be to do a metal casting
@@HelpfulLockPicker ah. If the keyway hasn't been published yet, then you'll have to reverse engineer the keyway yourself before working on the printing/bitting.
But to cast into metal? I haven't done it myself, but there are instructibles and videos on people doing lost cast with PLA. It'll require finishing/Polish but it's possible.
Great review!!!
I would say yes it’s a game changer.
Thank you for sharing this!!!
👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks for checking it out!
An excellent tool. Security is a problem anyway. Cheers
Thanks for checking it out!
Too decode on the the spot with out taking it a part is fantastic good money spent .😎
I agree, it almost pays for itself on aggravation savings after a couple calls, LOL
Can the KW1 pick Schlage locks?
No
Great way to defeat the lishi on KW1 is to key your lock with a number 7 pin. The lishi only goes to 6 depth
Thank you for sharing
Let's just put it this way.IMO no one needs this tool(As even a novice can pick a Kwikset with standard picks)however it is a really cool idea that just had to made.PS:I doubt that it will ever be used in the comission of crimes(Not only due to the price point, but more because the majority of criminals do not have the patience or inclination to learn the art of nondestructive entry)and will end up being a novelty item(Toy)for locksmiths/locksporters
I honestly don't see how it would be a novelty tool the picking part is stupid but the decoding part is very powerful. Using this tool on a lockout would save a whole bunch of time and aggravation.
Not having to take out the screwdriver it's always a nice thing
Not a game changer but a nice tool for picking then decoding the lock to make a key for it, picking the lock can easily still be picked using traditional tools and just as quick and some cases quicker, also a good tool to learn picking at first
Thanks for sharing
Lishi is a good tool, nice video 👍
Thanks for checking it out!
Where can I buy one now
Most of the vendors require you to be a locksmith. You can try clksupply and see if they cancel your order
Try Ebay.
These aren't made for automobiles are they
They are primarily made for automobiles
I can't really see this tool being a game changer let's face it Kwik locks open easy enough as it is so I didn't see a stampede for this tool besides they're not cheap...
Robbie from Huyton Liverpool UK
It makes life a lot easier
Fail safe?! Oh! That’s when people must of been honest …now you can easily order any key you want comfortable from your couch..lol..an you don’t even need the cuts a simple picture of they key will suffice…
thank you
The Kwikset key for my front door has the bitting stamped on the key...FML. >_
Thata good, make a duplicate of the key and keep it out of site and write it down just in case you lose it
Nothing changes. Low security locks remain low security. :)
Thanks for sharing! I still find the decoding a very powerful tool but like you are insinuating if someone wants to get in there getting in LOL
@@HelpfulLockPicker Sure decoding is useful in situations, but there's no need to make a mountain out of a molehill. :)
@ Noctis Motus That is not always true,the security of a lock cylinder can be increased by using security pins. www.lockpicks.com/high-security-pin-kit.html
@@nelsonechevarria7009 One cannot polish a turd, but as you suggest, you can add glitter to it. :)
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I'm not sure what you're talking about
Thank u
Thank you Mr. Li for making such great tools!
It’s a great tool. But honestly most thieves could never afford one nor would use one when it’s so much quicker to use other means. I don’t consider it a security risk either otherwise they’d be using these more often with cars since they’ve been around forever. Thieves in my area are mostly opportunists. When they go near a door whether it be a car or standard door, they’ll check it. If a doors locked they move on to the next door. They usually don’t spend too much time at a door they can’t open quickly. And this tool even if it works good can still take some time to use. Locks usually don’t open that fast when they’re on the door and your in a hurry😂😂😂. This is all jmo. I’m a locksmith and I bought this tool because I pick up a lot of new locks at our habitat for humanity that are missing keys but still new and I sell at a discount or use as “fill-a-holes” and this is quicker to use to decode than disassembly.
I personally agree that if someone is going to want to get in they are going to get in and they are likely going to use destructive entry because that is the easiest way and most reliable. I do highly enjoy the decoding aspect from the fact that you don't need to take the lock apart and it just saves a bunch of time and aggravation. First service locksmiths I feel like this could be a pretty cool tool.
What kind of locks will this tool open?
It only opens and decodes the keyway written on the tool. This one is KW1 and the also just made an SC1 tool. To the person with the right know how this tool has a lot of implications in North America
informative
Thanks for checking it out
As a Locksmith for over 13 years a standard pick gun is 10X easier to use, and quicker, and also what non lock smith is going to know how to file a key to code 😂
Lishi are great tools and even just buying a code cut key online is a simple task good sir
Very cool tool, a little expensive.
Thanks for sharing. But in all honesty after a few annoying lockout jobs it would pay for itself to not have to deal with the aggravation
For the professional yes it will be.
The aggravation savings are definitely worth it :-) having to do a lockout out without getting out of screwdriver makes it worth it
Why is the old saying "stay tuned" still exist? We haven't had to tune into a station in years with a dial. Just say "keep watching".
It is a fair point but it is just the way it is. You could say the same thing about roll up the windows, hang up the phone, dial the number, etc.
I'm sure I saw Bill review one a while ago (ua-cam.com/video/gqaDvQbYWmA/v-deo.html).... what is the "adaptation" you mention? As Lockmania mentioned, can yours be used in any keyway?
That adaptation is they moved from automotive locks to residential locks. It is an exciting transition in their lineup.
@@HelpfulLockPicker Sort of takes the fun out of it, unless you do it for a job though I suppose. Would still like to try one, or a Sputnik! :-)
Most (actually) all breaking-ins that I know/aware of involved the crooks using bricks/baseball bats/crowbar/cars as a key. These tools are just another toy for people in the locks sports arena.
Thanks for sharing
"A huge game changer in security"? Yes. Depending on how you look at it.
Thanks for checking it out
Yikes - $120 for the sc1 and another $120 for the kw1!! (only the rich criminals will be buying this) :)
Lol. Destructive entry is just so much simpler and cheaper
Just think about the time you can save from taking off the lock, picking or shimming it to replace the key if a rekey isnt necessary tho its very cool
Get the SC4...that’s the 6pin and you can use it for 5pin (SC1) as well....I wouldn’t bother with the kwikset, but the Schlage is a really good tool, the tolerance on Schlage is much tighter and this tool can pick one in minutes
@Kissalude No...you're wrong. You only have to worry about the nerds who love buying expensive locksmith toys to make videos to teach the thieves.
I don't think it is a game changer simply because it is too expensive. I see this tool costs 120 dollars where as other lishi tools for cars are closer to the 40 dollar mark. Now to make someone a car key you can easily charge over a hundred dollars, so it is definitely worth buying those tools. this KW1 lishi tool wouldn't really help you out all that much unless a customer lost all their keys and wants a key fitted, but at this point they might just want everything rekeyd anyways.
I think once the price comes down (Chinese manufacture makes a clone) it will have a much bigger impact. They are really cool tools and thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Best way to overcome this is to use a good lock not the usual kwickset or schlage crap.
That is a fair but I still find these tools to be really interesting because when you look at the larger picture most residential locks in the US are KW1 and SC1 and the fact that you could pick (whatever means you choose) and decode the lock with this tool and quickly code cut or hand file a key has some large implications for both locksmiths and anyone else who can watch a basic tutorial online.
Criminals don't care about your lock, if they can't pick it with a screwdriver, a sledgehammer or crowbar works too.
Thanks for sharing!
Really great tool but not that useful in Europe/France 😉
Very true, thanks for sharing:)
Why?
@@nomercy7161 this tool is for kwikset locks, there are no kwikset locks in France ^^
@@nomercy7161 They don't have the KW1 and Sc1 keyway too often there.
What person who owns this tool is going to go to a locksmith? If this individual has the skill to use it, they certainly have the skill to make their own key. I'm just stating the obvious.
Hand filing a key is a pain and buying an expensive machine is expensive
You can make one yourself for about $5
I'd buy it if you could do it. Can you make me one for Yale Y1 keyway?
The main message is most residential locks available in America are crap.
Yes
Thank you for the video.I had no choice but to give you a thumbs down because in my opinion you are fear mongering.First of all in order to be able to cut a key by code you need a code cutting key machine and you must know what you are doing because different lock manufacturers use different bittings and spacings.Secondly a good code cutting key machine will cost anywhere from $2,500.00 and up plus the cost for the different cutters that the code cutting key machine will require for the different lock brands.As a licensed locksmith I never and I mean never code cut any keys for anyone without the person presenting a photo identification card to me and what I do when asked by anyone to code cut any keys is to write down the name and address of the person requesting a code cut key and I keep that information in case law enforcement ever requires that I give that information so it's not as simple as you make it out to be.I will not say that there are no dishonest locksmiths but those are few and far between.I have been a licensed locksmith for quite some time now and I have spent a lot of time and money on tools and key machines to become a proficient locksmith and I can tell you that unless it's the CIA,FBI or any other secret service agency no person in their right mind is going to spend so much money and time on tools,key machines and studying just to commit felonies and end up behind bars for code cutting keys for unauthorized people.I will not ever open any lock for anyone that does not present me with a valid photo identification with the address as to where said locks need to b e opened and anyone who tries to give me a hard time about that will end up being introduced to the chief of police which I happen to know personally.Lock picking is not as straight forward and as easy as you make it out to be in this video and what's more who other than a licensed locksmith is ever going to stand at a person's front door picking any lock open?It took me the better part of more than six years before I started becoming proficient at lock picking,stoop watching so many bullshit hollywood movies and believing everything you see and hear in those bullshit movies because there is much much more to lock picking than just having lock picks and lock tools,locks don't magically open when you insert lock picks into the locks like what is portrayed in bullshit hollywood movies.Even with the best lock picks and lock tools locks take time to pick open.I had to pass a background check in order to get my locksmith license and every two years when my locksmith license comes up for renewal I must back a background check otherwise no locksmith license,do you honestly believe that any self respecting locksmith is going to violate the law and the public trust just like that by code cutting keys for anyone without requiring proper photo identification and keeping a record of people who ask for code cut keys?Because if you believe that there's a bridge in Brooklyn NY that somebody may be interesting in selling you.
Have you been on eBay? You can buy a code cut key for $2.50 shipped
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will you pick me out a nice beginner lock set . im just looking to pick dead bolt home locks, pad lock wafer locks an the last thing i would want to lean is car locks . with so many set i don't no which set to get . i want a good one but dont want to brake the bank . o yea, i will need a set that has locks in it so i can lean . now that you no what im looking for in america . will you please pic on out for me ?
What is your price range?
@@HelpfulLockPicker 25.00 to 50.00