Years? Not to be a dick, but there's tons of guides on the internet as well as books on the subject.. some are very cheap. Lpl doesn't do tutorials, he just magnifies the poor state of modern security and entertains us, so he's it's poor choice of channel for learning how to actually pick locks. I've learned a lot more by googling the subject than i ever could from lpl.
Thank you! I’ve heard plenty of people talk about how the security pins should feel when they’re set, but I hadn’t considered that the key pins would feel different too! That will be a useful tip for me to remember going forward.
When you’re putting tension on the walk, how much tension are you putting? Also when you’re trying to figure out the next pin and it’s kind of stuck do you back off the tension to help or do you keep a firm or semi-firm amount attention the whole time no matter what?
Very interesting. At my job as a Maintenance Engineer, I have to re-key locks often. We use the same cores (Schlage SC4) on every lock in the bldg. Will the binding order be the same on every core since they're all the same or is each one different. I ask because if they're different, the order doesn't really matter because normally you would only have to pick a lock once. Especially with the Lishi since once it's picked, I can cut a key for it. Thank You.
The binding order will be different because it has more to do with manufacturing tolerances than the keypins. However, changing the bitting can make these binding order change due to the tolerances.
This takes time, and once you master it, you will still get lost sometimes. I figured out 5 pin locks, and got lost on paclock 90a pro first time I attacked it
So here’s what I do if I’m lost. I lift my pick at the back of the lock and slowly draw out of the lock. I use very little pressure so as to feel the pins rather than lifting them, that way each pin pushes the pick down, and I count them off until I’m where I want to be. That’s less necessary as you get more experience, but I’m certainly not beyond using it yet lol. Lot of people like the sharpie method, marking the pick, but my mind works with it better thinking about the inside of the lock rather than having an external reference.
If you find this video helpful and would like to learn more concepts in Lock Sport please check out my video series "Lock Picking Home School" which will teach you how to get started in Lock Sport from a beginner up to an intermediate level. Lock Picking Home School: ua-cam.com/play/PLmCWiTycBRr2ydL3SEmLVgzqGZskL0uz_.html
It takes a lot of practice and light touch. You may also need a slimmer pick. If the pick is too thick, it’ll feel clumsy and be hard to move around in the lock, keeping you from getting feedback from the pins. I like to start from the back of the lock now, but when I first started, the best way for me to reference where the pins were was to slide the pick into the top of the keyway without a tension tool. I’d hit the first pin, follow it down, and once I’d slip past the bottom of it, I’d lift it and do the same with the next one. After a few times doing that, you kinda have a feel for where things are.
Really good videos. I'm learning a lot. I have bought some clear plastic locks but now they are too easy. I have managed to pick a couple of Euro locks but I recently replaced a Union assa alloy and I can not pick it. I feel the pains binding ect but then they all feel loose but won't open. I have put hours into it. I'm losing interest and starting to feel I will never be any good at picking locks. Can you tell me what cut away lock you are using? Thanks in advance
Great video. what happens for a masterlock 140 with 3 security pin? I am struggling to understand the feedback and how much tension to let go. Thank you
Could someone please explain to me why does binding order exist? Why can't I just start from pin 5(last) and go to the first one. Why won't it hold there above the sheerline? Also, does binding order exist on all locks with traditional pins? Do padlocks have a binding order?
He said it was to do with the manufacturing tolerances. Which I believe means that when you add rotation, one of the pins hit the side (or become tight) before any of the others. Because it is something like 1/10th of a mm larger than the others due to how it was manufactured. So each pin is a slightly different size (not on purpose just how it is made). This aids us as lockpickers as it allows us to tackle each pin one after the other. After a pin is 'set' it is stuck in that place unless the rotation force is lessoned thus dropping the pins in reverse order or all of them if it is completely released. So when you push on the wrong pin it is springy as there is no pressure on its sides causing the spring to spring back. But when you push the binding pin past the shear line it locks into place & pressure is put on to the next smallest pin. Hope this made sense. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@paulwalker4919 Thank you for explaining that to me, sir. After reading what you have written, I suppose it does actually make sense. Sadly, he poorly explained it in the video therefore I had no clue on what he meant by that statement. You seem to know your way around locks. Would you be so good and answer me one more thing, please? Does this binding rule apply for all locks? Now that I am informed it would be logical to reckon yes, but I just wish to hear the opinion of the wiser.
@@YXVAJZER Believe it or not I do not know much about locks. 😅 after looking into if for a week I got my first clear acryllic lock last night. I've picked that atleast 50 times now. Have just been out and bought a 4 pin master lock m1. Took me a while but I got it open in the end. So I can not answer that. I imagine for all key locks yes. but combination locks are different for sure.
@@paulwalker4919 Unexpected but to be dissapointed is a benefit not all can afford. From what I can tell you, combination and different locking mechanism locks are a different story for sure. Good luck on your journey then. Farewell.
I wish you'd discussed the tension/how you're applying it EDIT: was able to figure it out by paying attention to the position of the screw hole on the Lishi at the beginning of the video
What happen when my 3 lock has not binding pin, each of them I can push down up etc without resistance not matter how much tension i do. What to do with occasion? I bough Yale cylinder but I can see all pins I can change position of them like 1 to 6 2 to 4 and easily without looking on cylinder I can pick pick
Hi Sir,, Hey my question is , can you tension any lock and then pick it in either direction. I have an old lock with a WB stamped in it, and it is giving me hell. it seem I can only rake it open while I tension it counter clockwise. I cant pick it tho... Great Video too. Thanks
You can tension locks in either direction and get an open, however, it might not unlock the lock. To counter this, plug spinners were made to reverse the direction. For example deadbolts always open away from the doorframe and if you picked towards the doorframe that would not open the lock. With a plug spinner, you could reverse the direction and get an open.
Hi I'm new to lock picking and I learn a lot from you. Can you please explain the tool you are using to tension in this video? (or refer me to a video you explain it?) thank you very much
Can someone tell me if they make a Lishi tool for a standard Sargent lock ? Im new at it but... at our facility we use a Sargent ASSA Abloy and the cylinder is not paracentric ..... with I could attach a pic .... can anyone help ?
I have a selection of only 5 locks which I pick over and over for a few months but lately I am struggling with them? sometimes I can open them ok but other times it takes me hours...I guess I need more practice
It would also be a good idea to get a few more locks to throw into the mix. If you work on the same locks all of the time you will eventually develop muscle memory and will learn less from each encounter. Congrats on the open and continuing on with the sport :)
This being 3 months old, you may have figured it out by now, but this depends on the lock. Often times it’ll end up being a security pin, usually a spool. Imagine a pin the shape of an empty thread spool, basically just the center machined down to a smaller diameter than the top and bottom. You may find yourself in what’s called a “false set” where the core turns slightly but the lock doesn’t open fully. You’ll want to feel each pin lightening tension as you press on the pins. A spool will noticeably turn the core backwards against your lightened tension. Allow that to happen until you fully set the pin. The process of setting the spool may allow others to fall, so after you set the spool, check the rest of the pins again if the lock doesn’t open.
Very nice video My Friend, i finally got me a new phone and have also made a new channel not about lockpicking but There might be some picking videos at some point tho and of course my locksport channel is back on track and i just made a video where you guys can actually see me IT was a bit wierd to make but i am happy i did
I'm just getting started and figuring this out... I assume binding order changes when you go the other way because the tolerances are different in that direction... my question is: shouldn't there be a relationship between binding order CW vs CCW? why does binding order not just invert when you go the other direction? I understand binding order is dictated by manufacturing tolerances and imperfections, but wouldn't they be the same in either direction? in other words: why is binding order going CCW not the inverse of binding order going CW? The holes are always the same size and the same amount off...
@@Zencat420 I was wondering the exact same thing. I'm new to the subject but I guess the only logical explanation can be is the holes (in the plug and/or in the body) are not in fact always the same diameter.
I don't understand how you can open a lock in both directions? My entire life I've turned my front door key in one direction because it WON"T go the other way, so why can you pick a lock in the opposite direction?
It depends on how the lock is setup. Deadbolts always open away from the door frame. Padlocks can be setup to open either way based off how the actuator is designed
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you man! I really appreciate you replying to all my comments on your different videos hahaha. And it makes sense now, thank you soooo much. I'm pretty far into your lock picking home school now and It's amazing. You're very helpful and a great teacher.
No fucking way. I just watched this video as I found an old padlock I wanted to use but had forgotten the combination.. anyways tried your method and after fiddling with it for about 5 mins, I got it open! The code..... 666, What are the chances!?
![[215] How To Identify The Binding Pin With The Zipping Test](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Gb-ALzwYGTA/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[206] How To Defeat Overset Pins: Prevent, Identify, and Fix Overset Pins (Learn Lock Picking)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NkXFGATJysY/mqdefault.jpg)
Perfectly helpful. You took the proper amount of time to explain, demonstrate and summarize. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
Hey, @@HelpfulLockPickeri am brand new to lockpicking and am having lots of troubles getting the single pin picking down. Any tips?
This is so helpful, thank you. I'd been watching LPL for years and started picking myself, but had no idea what I'm doing!
Happy to help!
Years? Not to be a dick, but there's tons of guides on the internet as well as books on the subject.. some are very cheap. Lpl doesn't do tutorials, he just magnifies the poor state of modern security and entertains us, so he's it's poor choice of channel for learning how to actually pick locks. I've learned a lot more by googling the subject than i ever could from lpl.
@@stevensavoie856everyone's journey will be different
Great job explaining it, and the visual drives the mechanics of it home. Thanks for posting. 👍🏻
thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
Thank you! I’ve heard plenty of people talk about how the security pins should feel when they’re set, but I hadn’t considered that the key pins would feel different too! That will be a useful tip for me to remember going forward.
As always very good explanation and your camera work is excellent to show how it all looks visually.
Thanks for checking it out :)
Great video! I had no idea counter rotation would effect the binding order in that way.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
Super basic and helpful both, this is the key to picking simple locks. Good basics here for new pickers! Excellent video production. Thanks!
These videos are so helpful, thank you
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad they help!
Nicely done, HLP. This series is a great reference. Take care and stay healthy.
Thank you for the kind words! Do you have any interest in doing another segment for Lock Sport Update?
@@HelpfulLockPicker At the moment I do not. But let me send out a query. I'll let you know tonight.
When you’re putting tension on the walk, how much tension are you putting? Also when you’re trying to figure out the next pin and it’s kind of stuck do you back off the tension to help or do you keep a firm or semi-firm amount attention the whole time no matter what?
Very interesting. At my job as a Maintenance Engineer, I have to re-key locks often. We use the same cores (Schlage SC4) on every lock in the bldg. Will the binding order be the same on every core since they're all the same or is each one different. I ask because if they're different, the order doesn't really matter because normally you would only have to pick a lock once. Especially with the Lishi since once it's picked, I can cut a key for it. Thank You.
The binding order will be different because it has more to do with manufacturing tolerances than the keypins. However, changing the bitting can make these binding order change due to the tolerances.
Great educational video HLP! Quick question, if there's crazy security in the lock, is the binding order still going to be the same every time?
The binding order shouldn't change as long as the pins aren't changed
Gonna buy a set this summer and learn thanks for this explanation
I have a hell of a time figuring out which pin I am on. Anything other than the very last pin and I get lost in the lock real quick.
Me too
Try a sparrows monkey paw. Slide the pick in with the tension wrench to "feel" which pins you are working on.
Without applying tension find each pin in order and make a mark in your pick with a sharpie. Works for me.
This takes time, and once you master it, you will still get lost sometimes. I figured out 5 pin locks, and got lost on paclock 90a pro first time I attacked it
So here’s what I do if I’m lost. I lift my pick at the back of the lock and slowly draw out of the lock. I use very little pressure so as to feel the pins rather than lifting them, that way each pin pushes the pick down, and I count them off until I’m where I want to be. That’s less necessary as you get more experience, but I’m certainly not beyond using it yet lol. Lot of people like the sharpie method, marking the pick, but my mind works with it better thinking about the inside of the lock rather than having an external reference.
Would you make a similar video demonstrating the quirks of different security pins?
I have a lot of videos on spool pins already, I plan to make some more on serrated in the future
Super clear, great 👍
Have subscribed straight away you were so clear and concise.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
👍 Great explanation. Do most locks open/tension clockwise. Is there a rule of thumb?
If you find this video helpful and would like to learn more concepts in Lock Sport please check out my video series "Lock Picking Home School" which will teach you how to get started in Lock Sport from a beginner up to an intermediate level.
Lock Picking Home School: ua-cam.com/play/PLmCWiTycBRr2ydL3SEmLVgzqGZskL0uz_.html
I openeddddddddddddddddddddd finallyyyy,hahaha im so happy!My first lock hahah.Thank u so much man!
Congrats on the open
What type tension tool are you using in this video? What is the brand name and where can i buy? Thnx awesome well explain vid. Im new to lock picking.
I think it's a lishi tool
Nice job, well explained!
thank you for the kind words!
How would you suggest picking a lock that only works if tension is clockwise? I’m using the lock from a covert instruments set
Grest info snd demo. Another helpful video but very important. 👍😎
Thank you for the kind words!
Me dont have lishi pick, just regular ones, snd when i try single pin pick padlocks i cant feel if i am on pins or not :/
It takes a lot of practice and light touch. You may also need a slimmer pick. If the pick is too thick, it’ll feel clumsy and be hard to move around in the lock, keeping you from getting feedback from the pins.
I like to start from the back of the lock now, but when I first started, the best way for me to reference where the pins were was to slide the pick into the top of the keyway without a tension tool. I’d hit the first pin, follow it down, and once I’d slip past the bottom of it, I’d lift it and do the same with the next one. After a few times doing that, you kinda have a feel for where things are.
Really good videos. I'm learning a lot. I have bought some clear plastic locks but now they are too easy. I have managed to pick a couple of Euro locks but I recently replaced a Union assa alloy and I can not pick it. I feel the pains binding ect but then they all feel loose but won't open. I have put hours into it. I'm losing interest and starting to feel I will never be any good at picking locks. Can you tell me what cut away lock you are using? Thanks in advance
This is one I bought on eBay. It is either Kwikset or Schlage.
Things like this really help new pickers!
Thank you for the kind words!
How do you CCW pick an American 1100 series padlock?
U are holding the uper pins up with the core , appling tension in core , right ?
Is there any way of knowing which direction will unlock the door? Clockwise or counterclockwise?
Great video.
what happens for a masterlock 140 with 3 security pin? I am struggling to understand the feedback and how much tension to let go.
Thank you
Try top of keyway for better feedback
@@HelpfulLockPicker hey. Thank you. I got 2 of those locks and I can now open them. Thank you
Very nicely explained
Thank you for the kind words!
Great video, thank you for posting.
Great demonstration.
Could someone please explain to me why does binding order exist? Why can't I just start from pin 5(last) and go to the first one. Why won't it hold there above the sheerline?
Also, does binding order exist on all locks with traditional pins? Do padlocks have a binding order?
Same !
He said it was to do with the manufacturing tolerances.
Which I believe means that when you add rotation, one of the pins hit the side (or become tight) before any of the others. Because it is something like 1/10th of a mm larger than the others due to how it was manufactured. So each pin is a slightly different size (not on purpose just how it is made). This aids us as lockpickers as it allows us to tackle each pin one after the other. After a pin is 'set' it is stuck in that place unless the rotation force is lessoned thus dropping the pins in reverse order or all of them if it is completely released.
So when you push on the wrong pin it is springy as there is no pressure on its sides causing the spring to spring back. But when you push the binding pin past the shear line it locks into place & pressure is put on to the next smallest pin.
Hope this made sense. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@paulwalker4919 Thank you for explaining that to me, sir. After reading what you have written, I suppose it does actually make sense. Sadly, he poorly explained it in the video therefore I had no clue on what he meant by that statement.
You seem to know your way around locks. Would you be so good and answer me one more thing, please? Does this binding rule apply for all locks? Now that I am informed it would be logical to reckon yes, but I just wish to hear the opinion of the wiser.
@@YXVAJZER Believe it or not I do not know much about locks. 😅 after looking into if for a week I got my first clear acryllic lock last night. I've picked that atleast 50 times now. Have just been out and bought a 4 pin master lock m1. Took me a while but I got it open in the end.
So I can not answer that. I imagine for all key locks yes. but combination locks are different for sure.
@@paulwalker4919 Unexpected but to be dissapointed is a benefit not all can afford. From what I can tell you, combination and different locking mechanism locks are a different story for sure. Good luck on your journey then. Farewell.
I wish you'd discussed the tension/how you're applying it
EDIT: was able to figure it out by paying attention to the position of the screw hole on the Lishi at the beginning of the video
Ty/ sharing the video - help full definatly due we need liciense lishi or sci pick keys
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps :)
Very helpful video.
Thanks and stay safe
Thank you for the kind words!
Great video !!!
Thanks for checking it out
What happen when my 3 lock has not binding pin, each of them I can push down up etc without resistance not matter how much tension i do. What to do with occasion? I bough Yale cylinder but I can see all pins
I can change position of them like 1 to 6 2 to 4 and easily without looking on cylinder I can pick pick
It is possible the lock has really good tolerances and that is making it more difficult
What makes the binding order change clockwise vs. counterclockwise
It depends on how the holes lineup one oin will touch first depending on direction
Thanks
Good visual instruction
Thank you for the kind words and I hope it was helpful
What is that lock pick set your using in the video?
I am using the Lishi tool
Hi Sir,, Hey my question is , can you tension any lock and then pick it in either direction. I have an old lock with a WB stamped in it, and it is giving me hell. it seem I can only rake it open while I tension it counter clockwise. I cant pick it tho... Great Video too. Thanks
You can tension locks in either direction and get an open, however, it might not unlock the lock. To counter this, plug spinners were made to reverse the direction. For example deadbolts always open away from the doorframe and if you picked towards the doorframe that would not open the lock. With a plug spinner, you could reverse the direction and get an open.
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you You ,,I think I get it lol.
Great demonstration!!
🐈🐾👍🐈🐾
Thanks for checking it out!
Hi I'm new to lock picking and I learn a lot from you. Can you please explain the tool you are using to tension in this video? (or refer me to a video you explain it?) thank you very much
It is a Lishi tool. You can see it closer up here ua-cam.com/video/TSFXSQcQIPQ/v-deo.html
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you very much
It's called lock decoder.
Thank you 👍
Great stuff man. But what is that tool your using to turn it?
It is the Lishi pick and decoder
A great demonstration, thanks for this video, cheers
Thank you for checking it out!
Can someone tell me if they make a Lishi tool for a standard Sargent lock ? Im new at it but... at our facility we use a Sargent ASSA Abloy and the cylinder is not paracentric .....
with I could attach a pic .... can anyone help ?
I don't believe so
Excellent video, well done!
Nice video thanks for sharing
Thanks for checking it out!
I have a selection of only 5 locks which I pick over and over for a few months but lately I am struggling with them? sometimes I can open them ok but other times it takes me hours...I guess I need more practice
It would also be a good idea to get a few more locks to throw into the mix. If you work on the same locks all of the time you will eventually develop muscle memory and will learn less from each encounter.
Congrats on the open and continuing on with the sport :)
Where can I buy the lock that's using this video
I bought this on eBay
Is really possible to open lock counter clock wise in relation to clock wise
Yes you can but depending on the lock the mechanism might only unlock one way. However, this can be overcome by using a "plug spinner"
So what about European style locks where the pins are located below the keyway?
What am i doing wrong if i get all 5 to be springy and its not opening.? Does that mean its a 6 pin or am i just doing something wrong?
This being 3 months old, you may have figured it out by now, but this depends on the lock. Often times it’ll end up being a security pin, usually a spool. Imagine a pin the shape of an empty thread spool, basically just the center machined down to a smaller diameter than the top and bottom. You may find yourself in what’s called a “false set” where the core turns slightly but the lock doesn’t open fully. You’ll want to feel each pin lightening tension as you press on the pins. A spool will noticeably turn the core backwards against your lightened tension. Allow that to happen until you fully set the pin. The process of setting the spool may allow others to fall, so after you set the spool, check the rest of the pins again if the lock doesn’t open.
@lukepippin4781 thank you for reply! I'm getting a bit better haha
Very nice video My Friend, i finally got me a new phone and have also made a new channel not about lockpicking but There might be some picking videos at some point tho and of course my locksport channel is back on track and i just made a video where you guys can actually see me IT was a bit wierd to make but i am happy i did
What is the name of the new channel?
@@HelpfulLockPicker this is the video on the channel
ua-cam.com/video/3fPAsgjzFN4/v-deo.html
Why use a SC1, pretty sure the SC4 works on both 5 & 6? Just curious, Great videos btw.
I've heard mixed reviews about doing that
It does work. But you may be confused when decoding it afterwards.
What tool are you using?
Lishi pick and decoder
What if pin 4 and 5 are low and 6 is before those?
I lerned a lot from this video
Truly excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Good advice
Glad it was helpful!
thank you
You are welcome
What type of tool is that?
Lishi pick and decoder
THANKS
this is the video that finally made it click for me
no pun intended
thank you
Thanks for checking it out and I am glad it helps!
interesting how the order changes when you go the other way
Thanks for checking it out!
I'm just getting started and figuring this out... I assume binding order changes when you go the other way because the tolerances are different in that direction... my question is: shouldn't there be a relationship between binding order CW vs CCW? why does binding order not just invert when you go the other direction? I understand binding order is dictated by manufacturing tolerances and imperfections, but wouldn't they be the same in either direction? in other words: why is binding order going CCW not the inverse of binding order going CW? The holes are always the same size and the same amount off...
@@Zencat420 I was wondering the exact same thing. I'm new to the subject but I guess the only logical explanation can be is the holes (in the plug and/or in the body) are not in fact always the same diameter.
Very good, thanks
thanks for checking it out
Great video my friend!
Thank you for the kind words!
Another great video, thank you 😊
Thank you for the kind words!
Awesome channel
Thank you!
Like to see a cutaway cylinder when picking spool pins
I am pretty sure I have several of these videos
What if sometimes I set 2 pins, but the rest all feel springy.
I would double check nothing is overset
Nice lushi
Thanks for checking it out!
So what can we now say about binding order?
The next which is binding is the next one? That easy?
Thanks for checking it out
15/86 videos done!
Nice work on the education
I have an American 1100 that has become boringly effortless due to learning the binding order. I need more locks lol.
Can someone make the thing via paper clips?
You can but it doesn't work well
Hola
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very useful information #Billingslocksmith
i want to work as locksmith, i seem a very interesting job
Thanks for sharing
I don't understand how you can open a lock in both directions? My entire life I've turned my front door key in one direction because it WON"T go the other way, so why can you pick a lock in the opposite direction?
It depends on how the lock is setup.
Deadbolts always open away from the door frame. Padlocks can be setup to open either way based off how the actuator is designed
@@HelpfulLockPicker Thank you man! I really appreciate you replying to all my comments on your different videos hahaha. And it makes sense now, thank you soooo much. I'm pretty far into your lock picking home school now and It's amazing. You're very helpful and a great teacher.
Does anyone write down the binding order of their locks? I don't. But it's a fact, they all have a unique order.
Thanks I love the new bike (this is a joke)
Thank you for checking out the video. Please don't pick locks in use or ones that you do not own
No fucking way. I just watched this video as I found an old padlock I wanted to use but had forgotten the combination.. anyways tried your method and after fiddling with it for about 5 mins, I got it open!
The code..... 666, What are the chances!?
reviewbrah is lockpicking
Thank you
Now I think I could pick a lock in an extreme emergency!!
Thank you for sharing this with us
What to do when 2 last pins just don't get set and keeping on springing back???
You either overset something or need more tension