Alesis Nitro Mesh Affordable Expansions? Go eDrum, Pintech TC Series
Вставка
- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Today's video I talk about some cheap electronic drum upgrades you can get on Amazon, and whether or not I think they are worth getting. Long story short, I do think the Pintech TC cymbal is a good deal amzn.to/2sV8BMO, but not so much for the Go eDrum.
If you like this video, please try to support my work by streaming demonic sweaters on your favorite music streaming service.
#alesisnitromesh #goedrum #pintechtcseries #electronicdrums Stream Demonic Sweaters on Apple Music / demonic-sweaters
Stream Demonic Sweaters on Spotify open.spotify.c...
Stream Manasota on Apple Music / manasota
Stream Manasota on Spotify open.spotify.c...
#experimentalmusic #drummer #demonicsweaters #manasota Buy and sell used gear, so much better than Ebay! - reverb.grsm.io...
I bought the official nitro mesh upgrade pack for just 100 bucks. Included 1 dual zone tom/snare and 1 cymbal. Also came with attachments and cables :)
you can also buy splitter cables and split the toms and add even more cymbals/drums. . Split Tom 1 and add an extra cymbal for a splash perhaps, split tom 2 and add an extra crash/china. Easy to do
Thanks for the videos my wife just got me this nitro kit for Christmas I’m loving it lots to learn so the videos def help thank you!
an e-drum that doesn't trigger right is worthless
Nitro and extra cymbal,great balance on the kit. Thanks great drumming! 😎
I was just looking at the Pintech TC cymbals. This video is great!
I know it's been a while since you've posted this video, but I watched it today, and thanks to you, I bought five of those babies. I have an expanded alesis command x, But the cymbals and hi-hat are just too small. So, I got 3 of the 14s, One of the 16s, and one of the 18s. Let's go, I'm excited.
Nice!
Great video. Your videos convinced me to get back into drumming. Just ordered my nitro mesh!
That's great, I love to hear that.
Just order the 18" pintech to use as a ride. I know it's single zone but for how I use a ride that's ok for now. Thanks for posting this! One of the only videos I've seen for them.
I recently purchased four 2-zone pads for about $200 new. This gives me a total of 5 pads, with rim triggers. I use this kit at my church. I have a X-stick on the snare pad, and then I have tambourine, hand claps, cowbell, and shaker on the rims of the others.
nice, sounds awesome
Four 2-zone pads for about $200 new? sounds like a good deal. Where did you buy them?
@@Jorge-yo5yo I found them on EBay. They are the Alesis pads, just like the snare that came with the kit, except they all have metal rims.
I plugged a Yamaha bass drum pad into my Alesis so I can run 2 independent kicks and it works awesome. I've been beating that thing to death for a year now.
Sounds good with a nice price. Now if I only could learn to play my nitro mesh drums well!!
I can’t too and I also can not make the drums sound like like his
I just wanted to say that you can get the expansion kit from guitar center for 120 with the tom and cymbal. They don't say it anywhere on their site and their sales team has no clue but... I can confirm both the tom and cymbal are dual trigger. So now I have a snare with a rim shot, normal tom 1, tom 2 with the ride as the rim shot, normal tom 3 and normal tom 4. That allows me to have 3 full cymbals, 2 that are choke-able and 1 that is not. I also ordered the dpd double kick off amazon for $100. So 600 for a 4 tom, 4 cymbal, double kick set up. Not too fucking shabby boys, not too fucking shabby. Great videos and reviews of the kit, it's what made me finally get it.
The cymbal is dual trigger? I didn’t think so, I tied it on mine and it was only single zone. Are you just talking about it being chokable?
@@demonicsweaters Oooooooh, yea. That's what I was getting at. Choke-able on the cymbal and rim shots on the tom. I lumped that in with dual triggers. I also saw your video on the double bass with using the hi-hat pedal and decided to not get the other pedal for $100. Another fantastic tip. 300 IQ plays. Fantastic.
@@gasser5001
Hey, do you still recommend this? It's strange that in Amazon that price is just for the cymbal expansion.. it's a big difference $$
Another excellent video! I am a little disappointed that the snare drum did not work. I actually bought a Yamaha electronic symbol and I got a brand new for $49. So that gives me a ride and two crashes and I'm pretty happy with that. Again thanks for the video and keep them coming!
Thank you for this honest video man. This helps a lot 😁🤘🏻im not using a nitro kit but have an alesis edrums/ kit and still planning on extending my edrums. 😀🤘🏻 Honestly I’m looking and was planning to buy that go edrums snare pad luckily I found your review. 😁🤘🏻
Glad I could help!
Bro, you can fucking JAM. Appreciate the vid.
That works cherry... Cheaper than the expansion pack by far. It's funny, I was actually thinking about swapping my dual zone snare pad with a tom to do the exact same thing that you're doing. Great minds, I suppose... Hahahaha! Cheers for the review. I've got that pintech in my Amazon cart, guess I'll give it a go.
Great video as usual, excellent drumming dude !!!!
Thanks a lot!
Holy cow why did I never think about making the rim of tom 2 a ride cymbal, that alone was worth the watch
How do you do that with a nitro mesh? Do you have to place a dual zone tom there?
@@joelschutt298 i was wondering the same
nice playing at the end bro
Thanks I just got this set for Christmas
you have the ride in the rimshot of tom #2... Does the Alexis Nitro Mesh have a dual zone on all pads? I believed that only in the snare!
kozi fran correct only the snare is dual zone. I believe Justin achieved that by moving the snare in place of the mid tom.
Please confirm !! Lol Im 99% sure he put the snare there
@Joel Schutt @kozi fran
Yes but the snare pad at the 2nd Tom space and put the 2nd Tom pad in the snare spot .
The snare pad is the only pad that is dual
All you have to do is set the rim to a ride cymbal and your good to go .
curious... if all the pad connections are dual zone, (despite the actual pad - excluding the snare), does that mean I can buy a second kit and a splitter for each tom and assign the second "zone" of that tom to a new pad further expanding the kit?
Are there any recommendations for a bigger snare? The one on on it is a bit small
You could check the used market reverb.grsm.io/demonicsweaters
I saw a review about the Pintech cymbal and they also said it was really good!! Too bad about the GO e--Drum!! I would use that cymbal has a ride!! Good review Justin!!
Can you choke the pintech?
I rather use a ddrum Red shot trigger on it. Or the ddrum trigger that has dubble trigger. So I can use the rim shoot.
I 've had 3 of those Pintech cymbals fora couple years - worth every penny
R.B.G.
Manors Creep
Hi could you please do a video on how you split the tom with the ride cymbal on the rim?
Demonic Sweaters help me understand how to operate the module. pLease go slow and do everything twice.
Rate the alesis expansion
4:30 Slayer!!!!! I'm buying one.
Made my day, man! 🤘😂👍
Awesome drummer!
You can use Gibraltar clamp for the 12" snare go e drum snare.
oh yeah, I guess you could!
in addition to my other question below... I'm finding that expansion parts (at least Alesis) are stupid expensive, really putting me in the mindset that it's stupid to buy individual expansion elements (unless you can find them for less than $100 - for - at min, a tom and another cymbal.) I say this based on having purchased the entire kit new from G.C. for $300... so, "Why wouldn't someone just buy another kit and expand with that"? I'm tempted.
I just don't know if I can plug one kits brain/module into the aux in from the headset out of the other to get a complete setup with no lag, etc. (no scientist here, just trying to pick up the instrument after 30 years.)
Does the module have extra inputs and, if so, how many? Very tempted to get two of these for double bass, extra cymbals and more toms.
Ebay has some nice prices on Alesis expansion parts. I got a stock single zone cymbal pad with both boom arm and the clamp for just under 100 dollars.
I have a question: is the original ride a crash ride? Crashable? Thanks
So I haven't seen all of your vids but did you ever try using your hi-hat "stomp" for a second bass drum? It works and you still have the othe 2 positions for....half-open and closed hi-hat. I started to ramble so I put it down below haha.
I just got my Nitro a few weeks ago. First kit Ekit I have ever had. Bought my first Alesis in the mid 90s...SR16. I am a guitarist I think...I took guitar lessons in the 6th grade and was in Jr High band as a drummer. That is how far my musical schooling went. Played jr high dances(guitarist) and family stuff until I was 17 and got my first real job as... a drummer...had an Pearl Trap...The American Legion. Country band...And I was a metal head. Had my Peavey PA set up in my bedroom on either side of my drummer's throne....haha Was into Black S...Steppenwolf...GFR
Then I went into the navy sold my drums and kept a guitar. Never went back to drums and played guitar for 25 years some on the road. Now at 65 these Edrums are perfect. I have mine set up like JB....lol. one mounted tom and two floor. Learning Enter Sandman as first song haha.
awesome video! question: how well is the elevated platform muffling the pedals and vibrations from your neighbors downstairs? also can the entire kit be attached to let say a gebralta rack just to have the space room set up as a regular kit instead of using the small rack it comes with? this way you can add the extra pads cymbal and tom all in one rack?
How has that cheaper Pintech holding up? The 14" is now $41, but there is a used one for $21 that I may pull the trigger on.
How did you make the rim of the toms trigger? you explained it on your other video but im a bit slow i didnt seem to get it u.u. Any chance you can make a video showing us how to? Cheers and awesome videos!
Well, that cheapo cymbal certainly jigglies more than the stock Inés but Who cares???? XD
I was hoping you'll use a cymbal pad as a cymbal for the first time, have a nice week Justin
well you could always tighten it down more on the stand, but I like the natural movement.
Great video what snare would you recommend in the 10 inch version for this set up ? Thanks
could look for an older roland pad
Please please please tell me how you recorded these drums. PLEASE
ua-cam.com/video/zH6P0UaOHv4/v-deo.html
Hi. Excellent videos! Do you think it would be possible to put double trigger cymbals in to the Tom feeds and the Tom's into the cymbal feeds. Then set it up under a user profile. Not sure if a good idea? But would give maybe a few more options. Hope you get time to reply. Keep up the great work!
Martin Hicks yeah you can, I do that for my ride.
@@demonicsweaters excellent! Thanks for the quick reply! Have now ordered, After watching all your videos. Looks like the perfect set for me and my 7 year old to learn and grow with! Thanks and look forward to trying some of your lessons!
How do you get the tom to sound as ride in the edge and as tom in tje mesh??? They are not dual zone so how do you get it?
on the donner ded i heard that in can
kinda fold a bit so u can put it in a corner or something i was wondering if the nitro did the same ??
Hi, can you please tell me what voices are used in the toms? Thank you, I have the alesis nitro also, I found the numbers of the voices that you are used.
Great video. Are the toms duel zone? I noticed that you are getting a ride from the rim on your 2nd tom and the actual tom sounds from the head. Can you program it like that or did you need a different tom?
The toms are not dual zone, but the inputs are dual zone compatible. So you can move the snare pad to the tom two position and put a ride there.
Do you have a video on how you changed the rim of that second Tom to a cymbal? GAME CHANGING.
just move your snare to the tom 2 position then program a ride to the rim :)
@@demonicsweaters I found your other video now my nitro matches my acoustic kit! Love your content thank you!
@@xzuruix glad to help :)
How has that Pintech held up? And how is it as a ride? Thanks! Great video.
It was fine until I sold it.
Happy drumming brother!🤘 was wondering if you still have the Pintech cymbals and how they’re holding up? Was thinking of getting one for a cheep splash or something similar
I still have the spash and sold the rest. Their single zone cymbals are great, but avoid their dual zones at all costs.
@@demonicsweaters nice, kinda what I figured. Thx for the respond🤙
@@demonicsweaters new sub here🤙 I don’t know why utube hasn’t shown me your channel before! I look up pintech and other E-Deum stuff your years! And just now found your channel. But you’ve got my support brother🤘
@@ryanbuckley5529 those pesky algorithms
Hey DS. Thanks for the recco for the Pintech cymbal. Just got one, but needed help with suggestions on how to mount it. I don’t have a Cymbal stand, so bought a Gibraltar clamp and arm, by the clamps too big for the Rack tube. Any affordable suggestions?
Yeah... a cymbal stand haha. That’s what I use.
Found an alternative! A Gibraltar SC-CMBAC extension and Works perfectly. And thanks for the Pintec recco, sounds awesome for the price.
Can't go wrong with those Gibraltar clamps. I replaced the cheap plastic ones on my Alesis DM8 with Gibraltar's all around. They're quite expensive, but worth every penny. Last 4ever
Someone in my area posted on FB Marketplace a great deal on a Alesis strike pro 14" kick which I'd love to add onto my Nitro Mesh Kit since it's a much bigger pad for my double bass. Is this as simple as plug and play? Is it compatible with my kit?
I’ve never tested it, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work
Hi there Demonic,
I'm still waiting for my kit to arrive. But I want to make similar changes: at least add another cymbal (ride to be).
My question:
The extra cymbal will be visible only in the user kits that you configure? Or it is automatically added to all existing kits as "crash 2" ?
Thank a lot for the videos
As soon as you plug one in there you'll get an extra sound on every preset as well. It varies what sound depending on the preset.
Hi Justin, just 10 wks in with my nitro mesh kit and lovin your videos. With regard to expansions, could you have used the Alesis 10” or 14” Strike drum with the nitro mesh kit and re programmed the original snare as Tom 4? Cheers in advance, Andy, London, UK
Sure. You won’t need to reprogram anything, just plug it into tom 4
Same situacion with roland pads , but its alessis nitro module.....
Thank's for your videos! Have you tried plug a double zone extra cymbal in the Nitro module? It works?
Greetings from Chile
No the cymbal inputs are single zone, the tom inputs are all dual zone though
Where can i get the bigger snare drum pad
reverb.com is a good place to look
How did you get the ride sound in the tom, did you switch it with the dual zone snare?
yep!
I believe the Pintech plastic is made of ballistics plastic so it should be pretty durable.
wow nice. I do think it's a great cymbal for $30!
Can you choke it?
Hey! Thank you for this video. I am wondering if it is possible, to have a three zone cymbal working on the alesis nitro module like it is included in the Millenium MPS-750 Kit from thomann. Did you try this already? Or is the input for two channels only?
well, the only way I could see being able to use a 3 zone trigger would be using both additional inputs on the back, but the trigger would have to be able to send the correct amount of outputs.
i read reviews about the Alesis nitro mesh kit by customers. one complaint was the Module user manual being confusing and not helpful. i bought the kit and i agree the manual is horrible. everyone who does demonstrations of how to use the setting goes to fast.
Hi Robert here, I have a question?? was there an extra connection wire inside the box on the time you bought Alesis nitro, or did you purchase some wires online? if that so where did you purchase some spare of wires.
You can buy 1/4 trs cables on amazon 👍
hi do you know if the snare of the alesis surge would it work on my alesis nitro?
yes I think it should, I'm pretty sure they use 5he same module
What's the best snare settings
it really depends on the person, preference and style of playing
Do you have any advice for where to set up the bass beaters?it seems like it's much hotter towards the bottom
try to hit as close to the center as feels comfortable.
@@demonicsweaters thank you
what would be the maximum number of expansions i could add to the standard nitro kit ?
It has two extra trigger inputs on the module
What cable did you buy to hook it up to the cymbal cause I’m about to buy the cymbal and don’t have a cable laying around
ah, I should have mentioned that. It's just a standard 1/4" guitar cable.
Demonic Sweaters okay I thought it was I was just making sure but that’s definitely the most over looked item in the e drumming world for good reason cause who thinks about a cable lol thank you btw :)
Do you know if the alesis 12 inch snare from the crimson kit will work with the nitro module?
yes, it should
What is going on with that ride thats also triggering as a tom?!?!?!
all the tom inputs are dual zone, just not the drums. Switch your snare pad with the tom pad.
Does the pintech come with a cable?
I actually don’t remember
Hey Justin, can you give me an update on the Pintech TC cymbal. Has it held up? I'm trying to figure out if I want to try the TC or PC series. thanks.
The TC and PC are nearly the same. Whatever you do, don't buy a dual zone or choke one. Pintech really sucks at making anything other than single zone. They're plenty durable.
@@demonicsweaters thank you for the input. Does that recommendation about single zone also extend to their visulite series cymbals? I recently bought a set of Lemon cymbals, and for some reason I now have a tear on the edge of one of the cymbals, so I'm looking for alternatives. I'm only wondering about Pintech's metal cymbals.
What about the other nitro mesh kit, it's like $550 on Amazon and has a mesh kick pad and a 10 inch snare? Also the plastic around the rims of the heads are thinner and makes it look more like a higher end electronic drums.
You mean the Surge? Yeah, it's the same module, but with a better rack and some nice pads. So it's definitely a decent kit for $500.
@@demonicsweaters on Amazon they just call it the "adult kit with mesh kick pad" I believe. I've been wanting to learn to play for years and have been trying to decide between the nitro mesh and the surge. I think I may just break down and go for the surge, since it would probably be a better purchase in the long run.
@@adamontoremember Yeah for not that much more you get quite a bit of upgrades on the Surge amzn.to/3aVL5TA
can you add thing from newer alesis drum to older alesis drum
You mean like a trigger? yes it should work.
@@demonicsweaters even if i add a yamaha hi hat to a elesis nitro mesh kit
for this intro mesh kit, I read from one of the comment that when using the aux, the sound is delayed. is that true??
Not with mine. I run an aux in sometimes to play to music no delay. And I aux out to a sony stereo sometimes no delay. Very good module for the price! Good luck
Question on the cymbals, can you choke them? Same question on the amazon cymbal as well.
No
On my set I can choke one of them. It doesn’t matter which cymbal you choose, so long as it’s plugged into the crash 1 slot with the included TRS cable.
If I got two of these kits, would one module have the capacity to build a monster kit?
Oops I misread that the first time. You would need two modules
Does it come with a cable so i can connect it to the alesis module? Or do i have to buy it separately?
You need to buy one, a standard 1/4" guitar type cable works,
Are roland Cymbals compatible with the Alesis nitro module?
The cymbal inputs on the nitro module are single zone. So any single zone trigger will work.
That cymbal is 44.99 now.
Still worth it
Do you have a video on how to make your tom 2 rim into ride? thanks.
No, but it's easy. Move your snare pad to tom 2 position then program the rim to be a ride.
@@demonicsweaters got it, thank you so much man.
Does the lemon 12x4 work with the nitro mesh?
It would surely work, but not sure how well it would perform since settings on the nitro are limited.
I just bought a crimson 2 module
Can you tell us, how to adjust the hi hat sensibility?
Thank you! Huge fan from Panama City, Central America.
Press the 'utility' button on the module, then hit the pad you want to change, then turn it up or down using the arrow keys. Once it's set how you like it, press save until you see 'save pad' then again and it'll save.
@@demonicsweaters Thank You
Great video! This is completely unrelated to your subject matter in the video but what is the drum fill/technique called that you played at 9:36? It sounds so cool and I want to learn how to do that!
How do you get the rims to play as a ride?
seems that he swaped snare pad with 2nd tom. Now snare lacks a rimshot sound but he got an additional crash instead of ride.
Are the Pintech TC series choke capable?
no
I didn't watch the whole video. Is there a snare upgrade you can get? the 8 inch snare that it comes with is really small
How did you make your open-close hihat not cut off quickly??
I’m not sure what you mean
@@demonicsweaters cause everytime I'm trying to do hi hat barking it cuts the open hihat sound instantly it sounds unnatural
@@timothye5042 I've never heard that term "hi hat barking" before, so I'm still not totally sure what yo mean. But I didn't change anything on my hi hat as far as settings go. I did create my own custom kits and keep the hi hat sound a lot lower than the default.
Question... is it possible to hook up wireless headphones to the nitro mesh by using a Bluetooth to headphone receiver and then connecting the headphones through Bluetooth or do you think it would be delayed
I'm sure there would be some delay, which would make it very odd to play.
Demonic Sweaters I’m just trying to figure out how I can use wireless headphones I hate the wires getting in my way
Esimmons91 Me too, I just use headphones with a long cable and have it run down my back and onto the floor back up to the module
@@danielrawlings2820 same here, I was hoping Bluetooth would work
Does anyone know any other affordable 10” snares that might work better? My only grief with the nitro is the size of the snare, as i’ts sometimes a little uncomfortably small.
Then i could have the orig snare as a 2 zone ride...
I don't think a cheap one is really worth it now. Pintech though makes some 10" dual zone snares you can purchase on their website for $189. Since they've been in the game a long time, I will probably try one of those next.
also, I've switched to using 7a sticks on my Nitro, and that seems to be better with the little drums.
@@demonicsweaters good tip! I find the smaller size of the ekit hard to get use to. I have a yamaha dtx532k and it is small.
is the ride cymbal chokable?
No
does dual zone mean there are only two possible sounds, ie, there's no velocity sensitivity?
no, that's not the meaning. Dual zone refers to 2 different 'zones' you can hit for two different sounds. It's essentially 2 triggers in 1. In this situation it's the pad is one zone, and the rim is another.
All drum triggers have velocity sensitivity.
@@demonicsweaters hey thanks for responding so fast. Im buying the surge mesh or the nitro mesh, used to have an acoustic set. They both seem the same.
The surge has a better rack and dual zone tom pads. Other than that, the modules are the same.
@@demonicsweaters yeah, i think the surge then i can have a 6 sounds from the toms rather than just 3 allowing a cowbell, always gotta need more cowbell!!
Why not get alesis surge snare
Last I checked, they don’t sell them on their own
@@demonicsweaters they do used my good brother
@@demonicsweaters www.ebay.com/itm/203037920263?hash=item2f4600cc07:g:nmQAAOSwxs1dk3H~
My high hats are broken, any suggestions?
what kind of problem are you having with them?
@@demonicsweaters well there are times that the triggers are not working
@@andreorlino773 check your cables and adjust your sensitivity.
Does the pintech cymbal have a choke?
no, not this one. The Pintechs that do are pretty terrible.
@@demonicsweaters OMG! I may regret ordering the choke version. Oh well! Thanks anyway.
@@BassGods well maybe you'll have better luck. But the ones I had would get stuck choked then you'd have to peel off the pad to fix it. I had two, sent them back, same exact thing on the replacements. Pintech is really janky overall. But their single zone crashes are good for how cheap they are.
@@demonicsweaters I paid $57 on Ebay for the Dual zone. I thought that was kind of cheap. So if it does that, I wouldn't be surprised.
What kind of arms did you buy for these and where can I find them? It looks like the pintech TC's don't come with a boom arm/choke/any kind of arm. Whats the best arm I can buy that's compatible?
You can just put them on a standard cymbal stand, which is what I did. amzn.to/2ZKIGEB
Is the Pintech PC14 okay too?
looks almost the same as far as what I can tell. I think the only difference is the PC series come with an Aquarian spring mount.
Demonic Sweaters but is it good quality?
@@haejoon2007 I've never used it. The cheap Pintechs are good for the money though. Mine is still working great.
Demonic Sweaters Okay thank you
do not buy a PINTECH crash...its made of cheap plastic and the one i got the foam didn't line up to the curve? the ride isn't that bad, but you cant beat Alesis DM drum heads Command, Surge, and their 12 and 14-inch cymbals, I built a superset after beating so disappointed with the Turbo, I got 2 12 inch dual mesh pads and 2 10 inches, I added 2 real china cymbals,4 inches, and 8 inches. and need to switch mods, and or go MIDI into my PC and add it to a DAW/program....using a regular amp you get no deep kick.
ill have a 12 and 14-inch Pintech TC Cymbals on sale on Reverb for 55 bucks..
lol the snare he said alos this dude look like a gay tom kenny
Junk