The Xenomorph Infestation of Hadley's Hope: A Timeline
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2021
- From Alien: River of Pain, and Aliens: Newt's Tale - a timeline of events that lead to the fall of Hadley's Hope.
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ELLEN RIPLEY TIER OF EXCELLENCE: Lady Anne ^^ö^^(Jessica M Kandal, PhD)
WEYLAND YUTANI EXECUTIVES: EmYarUk, , Mark Fox
QUEENS: Ronni Jensen, Alyssane, Jackson roesch
WARRIORS: Kurt Venetis, Blockerman
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CHESTBURSTERS: James Aponte, Rafael Aguila, Oliver, Stewart Crichton, Matt Bro, BWXenogears, Thomas Watvedt, Gregor Mundell. John C Jones, Sean Arme, Thomas J Gettings, Commodore Erickson, Tariq_RUH, Arkuras, Ambrosia. Project Acheron, Robert Johnson, Axel R. Garcia, Adam LaZerte, David Hokanson, Mark Lennon - Фільми й анімація
What's haunted me for years was the woman in the hive with the chestburster. If you go by the timeline, it was two weeks until the marines showed up. She was probably the last person to get caught by the aliens.
Just like Newt, she managed to hide and hold out for longer than most, but obviously got caught not long before the arrival of the Sulaco.
Or the first alien took out the communications. Or maybe acid from the first one they killed. Maybe even a facehugger. They could have lost comms trying to get the facehugger of the first test subject. That leaves plenty of time. The first queen would have run off and looked for a place to nest. Maybe nothing else happened for over a week, except a few of the colonists casually searching for it. They couldn't have known how much danger they were in. Ripley only assumes that Newt survived longer than 17 days. The only thing that throws a spanner in the works is her "borderline" malnutrition. But Hell...that could be a few days without food
Duh!
That scene is one of the most pivotal scenes in the film. It literally sets in motion the entire fight in the hive.
Before she wakes up and is subsequently and summarily flamed to death the troops were "safe".
They would have been at least until they found the Queen's chamber. If she was not also dormant as the other aliens were.
I watched a TV version where right as the woman's chest burst... Apone says "FLAMETHROWER move!.... *cut to commercial*
UGH! one of the most frustrating edits I've ever seen in a film.
Timeline to receive a signal round trip LV426 to Earth and back is a month. Then time to delcare them unresposive
and plan a rescue, cut orders (millitary time takes time) and dispatch a ship. Supposed time the troopers are asleep
is 2-weeks more. Let's split the different and think Newt was alone for 7-8 weeks. Not only for two.
Newt's scream sounds almost exactly like my tinnitus, so it's like I'm enjoying Aliens 24/7.
Tinnitus is fun that way
I can relate
You know why you have tinnitus right? It's because of the electromagnetic radiation from 5G and all of the other wireless devices out there. I put it to you. For your own health, leave your phone and any other wireless behind and go camping as far away from any wireless device and radar tower as possible.
@@LukeLovesRose ROFLMAO! Sorry, mine is from gunfire, some full auto. And explosions. The laugh is they bitch about them 3M ear plugs but fuck nobody says a word about them cheap dark orange junk made of solid rubber.😡
@@LukeLovesRose I heard you get it from being exposed to too loud noises while your still a baby-3yo and it from life on from then, it’s pretty common
Last time I was this early, Ash was still trustworthy.
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LMAO!
🤣🤣🤣
I never trusted him.
Damn
I could listen to you talk about the aliens universe all day.
Agreed! I listen to old videos all the time.
Sometimes I do exactly that!
Save all his lore videos onto one playlist
Then Profit
Me too this guy makes a great unique universe even better. He’s really done his homework that’s for sure. Plz keep it up for us to all enjoy
His video Nestromo Revisited is one of my favorites. It's actually put me to sleep before, like listening to someone reading you a bedtime story. Even if it's a bedtime story about a killer alien lol.
I wish a LIMITED SERIES was made about the "THE LAST STAND" events from ALIENS right before THE MARINES come down to LV 426. 4 EPISODES are all that's needed.
Episode 1: 20 YEARS.
Episode 2: ADAM AND EVE of LV 426.
Episode 3: THE BIG SCORE.
Episode 4: They Mostly Come Out At Night.
Yo would literally be such a gooooooooooood series
Dark horse did a 2 issue called newts tails, issue one was what happens to the colony ,and #2 was when ripley and the Marines arrived.
Mostly.......
Would watch the hell out of that
Read or listen to Aliens River of Pain
"Hey guys, you want to move to this cool new colony?"
What's it called?
"River Of Pain."
No.
Lmao!
“ You know. For kids ! “
Whoops wrong film
Those facehuggers are incredibly robust creatures with a hell of a grip. I mean Newt's scream should have blown that slimy thing straight up. Kinda like what it did to my eardrums.
Yeah, she had a scream that would break glass, that's for sure.
Well, they did say they played the footage in reverse to get the crawling effect so it was probably taking off the other way to get away from that eardrum shattering pitch.
Newts scream is the ultimate bad ass text tone! Never miss a text
If having had a waterfall of little cousins in my younger years and later as an adult having 3 nieces has taught me anything, it's that girls under the age of ten have a piercing scream tailored specifically to make their own race go deaf if you're within ten steps of them when they do it.
Pardon?
I caught the "mostly, mostly..." bit and had a good, knowing chuckle. You are a keen investigator in this universe and I salute you!
I caught it as well. I did smirk after I heard it.
@@infojunkieworld same ^^
"They mostly only come out at night..."
Game over man!
Made me smile as well, Newt is one brave kid.
Its surprising they never turned this story into a movie. Feel it could be pretty good.
Don't Disney own the rights to Alien now? It'll probably be a six-season binge watch this time next year.
@@Tormented22 If disney did it, all the aliens would be gay.
@@LordFalconsword The sexuality of the xeno was established long ago: Queen makes egg, egg makes facehugger, facehugger makes alien. Homosexuality is extremely simple, relatively speaking and not somewhere the xeno species can go.
The group of humans however? Maybe one would be gay and one would be trans, and some would be brown and some not. Like society, really, if you think about it. And between you and me, before they actually do this in a show...
...wouldn't it be awesome to see a badass trans woman (or man!) doing cool shit in a film about hostile alien creatures? We don't think of trans people as being badass. I know for a fact Caitlin Jenner could whoop both our asses though :)
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@@Tormented22No.
Alien Isolation 2
35 years anniversary and the film still looks fresh. How many modern films full of CGI can say that. Certainly not the last Predator film. I think it shows the difference between directors who are paid just to make a film and directors who make a film because it is an absolute passion.
Yeah, the new Predator movies are a far cry from what Predator 1 and Predator 2 were, let alone the early Alien movies.
Predator 1 is phenomenal movie in its own right. The way it shifts tonally from being an over-the-top action movie to straight-up horror halfway through with the Predator making contact with the Squad is just fantastic cinema.
"Aliens" is a masterpiece, and will never be eclipsed by the crappy CGI-movies of today. Real heart went into that production!
It's much like John Carpenter's The Thing. Those practical effects STILL outshine CGI today.
I think that some of the effects in Aliens would benefit from a re-do. Love the film by the way, just think it would help.
I Might be stupid, but I liked a lot Prey.
The Alien movie that we wanted and never was done
Or at least a animated movie, that would have worked well.
Seriously. Covenant was a super let down. Prometheus was awesome though.
@@jaybeam1466 Convenant was okay, i liked it but it i agree, it could have been better. Their reasons for landing on the planet was fine but after that the plot was pretty weak. It was like they tried to cram more lore and explanations than what was needed, which messed everything up. Honestly there are alot of Alien comics and books, why not use those to make movie.
On Audible they have this time-line as a cast reading. It's really good
Its pretty badly written. People making obviously stupid decisions. Marines etc getting picked off ons by one. Splitting the parry to charge in to..what? Save the infected? Aliens easily overrunninv a secure area with one entrance vs automatic weapons etc. Its ludocrously bad
I just finished the “River of Pain” audio drama. Super cool stuff
I recently read the book and I wholeheartedly agree.
"Last stand. Must have been a hell of a fight."
Nice, Frost.
Yeah, looks that way.
Hot as hell in here
@@charleshemphill6923 Yeah man but it's a dry heat.
Knock it off Hudson 🤣
"These people are soldiers Newt here to protect you." - Ripley
"It won't make any difference." - Newt
Your video gives some extra clarity to Newt's quote. The colony already had some Marines.
If not Marines, at least Private Bonded Security Teams. The Colonial Marines discovered the Colony and all the evidence of armed Battles with the first waves of Xenos.
@@josephruiz7233 yeah they first saw signs of combat when they saw the huge acid damage in the main entrance of the colony. They even assumed that the threat was non existent.
“These people are here to protect you…they’re soldiers.”
Newt: “It won’t make any difference.”
Hudson to other Colonial Marines: “Did she just call us f*ckin soldiers?”
@@trevorduna7666 Cameron made that aura and attitude intentional. The Marines thought that the Aliens were wiped out. That's the affect that Cameron was looking for with the Colony looking like a former, and I emphasize "former", Combat Zone.
@@josephruiz7233 that's what made it so perfect. They let their guard down against the deadliest threat. 120+ deadliest threats.
This would've made a great prequel movie.
Every other thought in my head while listening to this was your exact statement. It would be horrifying. It would be such an excellent sci-fi horror movie. It would have a built-in audience I just don’t see how it would not be a success. You wouldn’t even have to throw hundreds of millions at the budget. As long as you used good costumes the sets would honestly be minimal. I would even relish the chance to watch a fan made version of this. But anyway. I second your emotion 👍🏼
I m in agreement. They should have gone ahead with making a film on Hadley’s Hope before making the likes of Prometheus and Convenant which to me were a disappointment. That said Resurrection was not all that great and it’s when the franchise started to really lose its way. I liked the idea of Alien 3 and the plot but it was the CGI which let it down.
Same here!! I'd absolutely LOVE a prequel movie about Hadley's Hope! Maybe set just after Isolation. The tense foreshadowing build up of the company's decision to start a colony, Newt's parents being all like "This will be the big break for us!" All the subtle signs of the colony being infiltrated, people mysteriously dissappearing. Just get someone competent to recreate the old school 70s style and we're made! Anything better than the "actual" prequels like Prometheus or Covenant.
Read the two issue comic "Newt's Tale" for your prequel.
Totally agree!I always wanted movie about a Hadleys hope it would be for sure better than Covenant or Prometheus crap
"The dates presented here mostly align with the novel version... Mostly..."
Freaking classic!!
I could just feel the tension hearing the timeline of events unfold. Chilling!
Amazing, wasn't it? Like a ticking clock....
especially when we know the horrific fate for everyone.
Ultimately everyone involved at LV426 ends up dead soon there after.
ooh yeah I love the early stages of the infestation when colonists are getting pulled away and going missing little by little and the infestation just keeps getting worse and worse until basically all hell breaks loose
Al Simpson..... also the captain from red dwarf 👌
YES! :D
And the dude who got his throat slit in Clive Barker's "Nightbreed"
Don't forget, he was also a cop in The Fifth Element too, his name is Mac Mcdonald, the guy IS Sci fi!
Thanks , I couldn't remember where I'd seen him before and I recently watched aliens again but it still didn't click.👍
@Cracking cheese lad Ace Rimmer would defeat the aliens barehanded
@@johnjaleco5683 just make sure you smoke him a kipper for when he's done 😁
nice "mostly" - newt reference :)
also catched it :P
Its game over Maaa'an !!!
@@wtfsalommy3250 it's game over man MOSTLY!
@@jackmullin9247 that would make for a shirt 💪
There's been two times a movie kind of glossed over something. That i thought...."can we go back and get more of that". And they were both from a JC film. The fall of Hadleys Hope and that future scene from Terminator. At least we got a scene in Terminator. This was just left to our imagination.
JC can borrow alien is undestructible from t1000
Sometimes your imagination is better than what can be brought to the screen. This is part of what made the first two Terminator movies and Aliens so good.
An alien theory upload, this brings a smile to my face.
I could listen to people talk about my favorite franchise all day long
I can't believe it's as old as me.
Happy birthday aliens
Happy birthday to the greatest science fiction movie ever made
It's sad that the fate of the Hadley's Hope colony was because of Burke's greed and none of the colonists knew about this until Ripley discovered the directives sent by Burke.
But with business ethics as it is today......
Does it surprise you?
At least the xenos wouldnt fuck each other over for a percentage right..? @@justsayain9794
This little bit confused me a bit the first time I watched it, I always thought it was convenient that the prospectors just so happened to find the derelict ship coincidentally as Ripley was thawed out but on rewatch I realized that the prospectors were literally sent there by the company and by Burke more specifically after Ripley reports her findings. Pretty scummy of them
That's what the moral of the story was. Ripley says: You don't see them f*ucking each other over percentages.
I was dead set on watching some alien theory all day and got home to see a new upload…
Niceeee.
Quit your grinning and drop your linen, we got ourselves a new upload!! ;)
17 days, we're not gonna last 17hrs with those things running around, one of my favourite lines, especially because a short time earlier he was the ultimate badass, just gold. Hey thanks for the vid.
Newt's tale was one of, if not the, first comics that i ever purchased (and was not purchased for me) along with ALIEN: SACRIFICE.
Loved the book River of pain,wish they had done a movie following it!
I liked some part of it. Other parts i didn't like towards the end.
I like the book, too. The only minor quibble I may have, and not even a quibble really, is the description/location of the egg chamber in the book. Or rather the discrepancy between how/where Kane found the egg chamber by being lowered all the way down into it, and then how the Jorden's found the egg chamber right next to the fossilized Engineer. Not a big deal for me at all, but a discrepancy. Still really enjoyed the novel.
The inclusion of the deleted scenes of Hadley's Hope (showing the Jorden's finding the Derelict spaceship) back into Aliens was brilliant. I like the further connective tissue it provides if only in a small way.
Hadley's Hope last stand would have made for a very nice Alien: Isolation 2. Endless creative choices for before, during and after the invasion.
I always wanted to know the story of the woman the Marines found in the nest. Considering the impregnation process only takes a couple of days, she must have survived a long time before finally being captured and taken to the nest. I wonder if she has a story, or is that just a continuity error?
I don’t doubt she may have escaped the 2nd last battle or last battle. Maybe with the group that left after the loss of both teams. Either way she survived that long is incredible but it was only a matter of time before she was caught. Unlike Newt, she probably didn’t know the duct system and good places to hide. Only so many places to hide with 100+ Xenos running around.
I watched Alien today, I was just starving for some good Sci-Fi! There hasn't been anything in a while!
Have you seen ‘Prospect’ from 2018? It’s decent.
@@Ryglado I wasn't a fan of that film man, I wanted to like it but it was just boring!, I'll tell you what is good though Sputnik from 2020, it was a great sci-fi horror, not that I'm a horror fan but it's a horror like Alien is a Horror! You seen it?
Raised by Wolves was great also! I feel it was the vision Ridley mixed the Alien franchise up in and anoyed us all with Prometheus and Covenant! Not that I didn't enjoy them but they weren't 'Alien'!
@@S-T-E-V-E No worries! I can’t disagree that that Prospect was slow moving.
Yes, I did see Sputnik and liked it a lot!
Another alright low budget one was Archive, if you saw that.
Yes, I’ve seen Raised by Wolves too - excellent first half of the series and definitely worth watching!
Yes, we didn’t need Prometheus or Covenant (but Prometheus was good if it wasn’t an Alien film!). I’m holding out a little hope with the new Alien series with Noah Hawley involved, but only a little.
@@Ryglado I haven't seen that, I'll give it a go, there's a little known sci-fi from 2018 called Extinction, it's really good in my opinion, give it a go! Also 'I Am Mother' is a great sci-fi film, you might have heard of that one!
Funny, I rewatched Aliens last week (3 times in a row actually) and was wondering how the infestation was taking place. But everytime I thought of it I had to stop, because I felt so sorry for Newt from having to experience it (I unwillingly imagine my own daughter in her place). Yes she survived it, but the trauma from having being alone with everyone disappearing.. fuck man..
She’d grow up to be one tough cookie. Think Vasquez on steroids with Ripley’s experience
@@GuinessOriginal Shame she died in a crash soon after escaping.
"Newt died on the way to her home planet."
yeah, that would have too traumatizing to most people or kids. Watching it slowly happen and grow...you are right, HAUEhuaheau91.
I thought Rebecca/Newt died along with Hicks?
@@maratonlegendelenemirei3352 In Alien3, yes.
Would nice to see a prequel movie of what happened a Hadley's Hope before the Marines arrived.
I’d rather have James Cameron do this instead of an Avatar sequel
Or heck, even a TV show of the event.
@@eddieolshefski6467 there is already a book, could easily adapt that to TV or a movie.
As much as I'd love a prequel with the events leading up Aliens, I think it's better as a story untold. The Aliens special edition with extra scenes allows us to imagine the horror, less is more sometimes!
@@trj1465 Yeah don't give Disney any ideas. We don't need another effed up franchise.
Ahh I was hoping for an in-depth video about this. The fall of Hadley's Hope, a tale for the ages! 🧐
The Alien Universe is literally the only thing that scares me and gives me nightmares and for that I love it. These videos are great I need more!
Me too and I love it
Still my favourite all time film, 31 years later after first watching it on VHS with my mom back in 1990 when I was just 10 years old. Thanks for keeping it alive 😎👍
Mom took my brother and I (I was 10 or so) with friends to see the original in the theater. My brother and I made it to the chest buster scene and ran out of the theater, we waited in the lobby until the film was over. I have been fascinated with the Alien story (ies) evermsince that night.
Always wished they'd make a movie about the events of Hadleys Hope from the moment the parasite was brought into the complex to the sheer panic as the first xeno bursts out and quickly grows to a fierce humanoid nobody has the capability to fight. "The last stand" as they barricade themselves off and only have the use of small fire arms and seismic survey charges, gradually being dragged into ducts overnight. Would be one of the few movies that wouldn't have a happy ending but I'm all for it!!
Or maybe even the first 30 minutes of Aliens showing more of what happened at Hadleys Hope. As we do see the start, but it then cuts away after the event with Newts parents.
They could have filmed it and released it after. Maybe as a short film at least. As my idea would surely screw up the pacing of Aliens.
The pacing of one of my other favorite movies is slightly annoying. 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day'. I seem to lose interest after the prison break and they are driving at night in the car towards Sarah's Mexican friend with the underground weapons storage. That is when I usually stop watching, almost every time I re-watch it.
Where the pacing in Aliens is perfect. I'm going to re-watch Aliens now to see if I'm remembering the pacing correctly. Both directed by James Cameron as well as I'm sure you know.
"Have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
"Have you?"
:)
There was a series called Hadley's Hope and 3 others, 1 being a UK series that looked like Hadley's Hope. Hadley's Hope had the girl named Newt. It was on the cover of TV guide, I had this TV Guide until '00 when it came up missing. There was the movie too and you could buy the big wheel. People called it the Hadley's Hope big wheel.
I really wished CA would make a game and revisit this part of Aliens, you could play as either a major or minor character, initially starting off doing your day to day routine on Hadley's Hope, word through the grape vine is one of the colonists family's has scored something big time, next thing you know everyone's on a need to know basis, upper management won't say a word til an "accident" occurs in the Medlab, before you know it all hell breaks lose, sheer terror, confusion and panic among the colonists... your family and friends "disappearing" one at a time, until you finally see it for the first time... Now that, is a game I would spend my life savings just to play
Same that sounds amazing it also sounds refreshing.
What will be the ending be? Waking up to a group of Marines trying to save you as you hang from the wall?
@@hippoace Could be I'd rather there was no happy ending, there really wasn't one for any of the colonists save Newt unless you include Alien 3 then maybe not 😁
@@glenakatsr Brackett perhaps? Loosely following River of Pain.
What some people have talked of is wishing you could play AS Newt.
She's alone. Her brother, and parents are gone. All she has is herself and her knowledge of the colony airducts. Maybe have a tutorual stage where she played
"the game" (hide and seek) inside the air ducts with her friends. The novelization of Aliens mentions this twice. Once when she is being jeered as a"cheater"
by her brother Timmy right before their parents make their fateful journey. This is shown in the deleted scenes of the film. And later in the novel only Newt says
to Ripley "I was best at the game" and Ripley understands she probably meant the air shaft system given where they found her living. She goes on to mutter
about having a good memory and that she could get into places others were too big. It makes her the Marines' Ace in the hole when they're escaping.
When we think about it Newt was not so minor a character in Aliens. She was every bit as important as Hicks, Vasquez or Bishop.
EVEN Newt as a playable character for one level would be interesting.
A DLC pack since her mission would start with death of her parents and end when the Colonial Marines and Ripley arrive.
"The dates mostly align with the novel version. Mostly."
Great touch pertaining to Newt's dialog in the movie, love it.
I saw Aliens live in the theater, 35 years ago. That would make me...old, I'll go with old.
Haha.... Don't worry friend, you are not alone. I was 12 when I saw this in the theaters.
At least we got to grow up with good films. These movies today are trash.
Yep. 1986, it was ahead of its time for scifi. Great sets, and effects. I was 19yo
Same here. Aliens and Die Hard are the most influential cultural events of my youth!
When it came out I was there.
If they were smart these events would be the alien isolation sequel
I always wanted to see an alien Isolation sequel with the hordes of Aliens, but a much more subtle approach to combat.
Something whereby the player character has the potential to fight off a half dozen aliens or so, but the gameplay penalises combat randomly. Ie- hit points required to kill aliens is random. And sometimes a random xeno may take more ammo to kill than the limited supply the player carries.
Aliens that are programmed to use the ducts, and structure of Hadleys Hope to traverse the colony, whilst you try to hide like Newt. And there are a few small groups of surviving colonists, some with an engineer, a doctor, or security specialist in their midst. You have to choose which groups to save, by running quests such as to barricade one group in at the expense of another, or put in place security turrets, or restore the power so they can monitor swarms, and hide accordingly.
The games story should be multi-tiered, with the characters being dependent on player choice. Who lives and who dies. The doctors can provide you medical assistance. The engineers can help remotely guide you to parts of the facility that can be closed off, or hatches that can be forced open, and security can remotely control turrets, help you setup mine traps, guide you to dead comrades with weapons and ammunition, or help give you quests to cobble together the components to build your first flamethrower etc…
Sewers, vents, corridors. It should be all open to the player. An open world, with colony tractors as transport. The facility, the landing field, the atmosphere processor and all its sub levels and engineering facilities shown and not shown in the film.
Alien Isolation plus, in the high octane vein of aliens.
This could make for another alien movie much like aliens
It would have been a pretty awesome movie.
I agree 👍👍@@squidlipssupreme168
If Burke had survived the Xenomorph assault in Operations and the last survivors made it to Gateway, that narration would have made an outstanding prologue to Burke and W-Y's trial.
assuming corporations hadn't had bought the justice system in the future.
Let's be honest, whether the Xenomorphs got him or not, Burke was never making it off that rock
If you have not listened to River of Pain on Audible you are truly doing yourself a disservice. Excellent project and I believe the next Alien movie should be about what happened at Hadley's Hope.
This convinced me to buy the “River of Pain” audio book. I’m looking forward to it.
Its an amazing tale well acted. Even if we know how the story ends.
Guess ill Google that
You won't be disappointed,it's awesome
I'm running a Hope's Last Day session in the near future for the Alien RPG, this video is very useful to me, thank you for making it.
SUPER interesting. I wish they would make a movie out of the Hadley's Hope disaster. I'm definitely going to check out the River of Pain novel. Thank you and keep it up! One more thing, if you could make a video detailing the "studies" they did on the facehuggers and xenomorphs on HH, I think that would be fantastic (if there's enough information, of course).
Instead of the novel, listen to the audio drama. The cast do a great job, it's very well done. You can listen to it on UA-cam.
I always thought instead of just making sequels and strange prequels about the engineers they should have done a high budged "series" about Hadleys Hope and the situation there. I think this would be a very interesting thing to watch.
Agreed, it would be a good project if disney every decides to do anything.
@@breembo The story is pretty much already done for em too! No wait, not even pre-production and they've already ruined it by adding way too much random stuff. Dang, it was good while it lasted.
Not really interesting, as everyone know how it would end. A short, like half an hour feature movie add on to the Aliens movie, would be nice though.
@@antonicholernik1747 So? Just because we know how it ends doesn't mean there can't be interesting story lines or characters. I mean it's just your opinion. There has been a comic line about it after all known as Aliens: Newt's Tale.
@@antonicholernik1747 Titanic is one of the best selling movies ever, and the ending isn't exactly a mystery :D
After reading the schlock that was Aliens Aftermath, this is exactly what I needed to celebrate the film’s 35th! Keep up the great work!
This is the prequel movie we truly needed!!!!
I've read the novel River of Pain a couple of years ago and listened to its audiobook more than once. This may sound cheesy but a prequel of Aliens using this great novel would be awesome. At least way better than Prometheus, Covenant, i think. Cheers to all Alien universe fans
You have no idea how happy I get when my name is in a film, especially this film.
You are an absolute mad man sir. I felt like I was watching Aliens for the first time in my life. Best video I've seen in ages. Bravo bravo
I had not considered the fall of Hadleys Hope as a story worthy of exploration. But upon watching your rendition of the timeline I see it really is full of intriguing possibilities and well worth a set piece in it's own right. I can imagine the personal arguements and positions taken by individuals regarding impromptu expeditions before the Jordan's trip out, not to mention the suspicions they would have had of the company and it's motives. Thank you AT.
TBH if it wasn't for the maniacal idiocy/sadism of Weyland-Yutani: humanity would have been well informed and able to fight off the xenomorphs before they could get really dangerous. I think Ridley Scott's biggest message throughout the Alien series is that callousness and hubris (especially in the form of mega-corporation CEOs seeking to be gods) will be the main thing that precipitates humanity's downfall.
millions of drones made of acid-resistant plastic that seek out xenomorphs and blow up near them could eradicate any alien infestation, flying, swimming, or crawling drones, makes no difference. They may have thousands but we would make millions. Poetic justice.
I mostly watch your channel at night. Mostly. Another amazing video sir.
Man, 35 years already. Where the heck has the time gone?!
How many combat drops? Uh, two. Including this one.
Great exchange between Private Vasquez and Lieutenant Gorman, then of course the classic "Awe Man" by Private Hudson. Rest in Peace, Bill Paxton...
@@erict.5724 I would Marry Private Vasquez but she would wear the pants in the house.
@@walterheisenberg9278 Ditto.
@@walterheisenberg9278 She also wears a Smartgun, if you need a spider to be exterminated
Aww mannn
Best movie and sequel of all time. Fantastic writing
Alien is my favourite.
I've been wanting this to be made into a short film or an independent project that leads directly into Aliens for years!
Also, it seems lots of people gloss over or ignore one fairly large detail that was highlighted in Aliens: after the first dropship crashes and explodes, Newt remarks that the Xenomorphs "mainly come out at night." This means that they are either nocturnal or fear bright lights.
I think it's more they understand the value of darkness for cover. They're obviously much smarter than mere animals.
Your efforts and the passion you put in the topic must be commended. Great work, always a pleasure to tune in!
I really like your videos on Alien Theory- the missing parts, the technical readouts ( which I can appreciate because I got an A in college level deafting) and the contingency plans not shown in the actual movie. Good job.
Imagine an Alien movie set on a tundra planet. The movie is based off the iconic lovecraft story, The Mountains of Madness (Kinda like The Thing)
@Mel Gibson After 4 Beers I actually think the thing could take the xenomorphs
I feel like they'd work together
I've alway wanted to see Xenemorphs vs Starship Troopers (the soldiers, not the bugs)
The thing and alien are the best sci-fi horror films ever made, so I'd imagine that would make for a prolific film
@@elektrobear2027 The xenos are silicon based hence I think they would be considered non-organic to The Thing imo. However I'm not opposed to the idea' but I think it would be them saying to each other "look you do your thing I will do mine and lets stay out of each others way."
I love this channel and how it keeps the lore feeling so fresh
Hey there, this came up in my mentions so I gave it a watch. I thought your narration of the collection of events that lead up to Aliens was pretty darn good and I quite enjoyed this video. It’s amazing that even after all this time, Aliens is still an amazing movie I never get bored of.
"mostly..." nicely done, really enjoyed this. Aliens is my favourite movie of all time, so love all this lore.
Awesome video! So Newt survived for 1 month. On another video it was already discussed why this time was 1 month (plus the emergency call was days earlier) when the marines expected backup in just 17 days. Suppose it could be explained by other marine operations happening closer to them than to Earth and the rescue wouldn't be starting out from Earth.
Thanks for this upload, this answered a lot of questions! As many have commented on previous videos, you have an excellent delivery and knack for storytelling, I’ve been hooked since the first upload that I stumbled along months ago! Great work :)
I think River of Pain is an excellent addition to the existing lore
was about to re-watch Aliens and decided to see if someone knew the said timeline described here. Superb work, many thanks
'Mostly' nice touch.
Happy 35th Birthday Aliens! One of the best Sci-Fi movies in history!
The best IMO
Da best
Hard to believe it has been 35 years! I remember seeing it in Vancouver, BC with my brother (I was 15). It was his introduction to the 'Alien' franchise and he was SO impressed!
I love what you do 👍 I wish we had some more lore from films but I am more than happy with what you provide and the comics/novels 🙂
This has answered a big question in my mind with the events. Sometimes I wondered if the timeline took over a week or a day. I'm glad I found this video.
8:00 13 colonists got face hugs, just by visiting the ship. Dam! Newt mom must not have warned the people not to get close to the eggs.
Who else wants this to be an HBO mini series?!?!??!
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I find this information fascinating to the point that its a history lesson regardless of fact or fiction.
Great video, lots of backstory I didn't know about.
Aliens (1986) is my favorite of the Alien movies, seen it many times.
The Aliens novel is the 2nd scariest novel I've read, 1st is Bram Stokers Dracula.
Without a doubt your videos, AT, have rekindled my interest in the Alien universe.
I grew up in the '80s and '90s on these films, certainly on the first two films, and in part on the third. By the time I was older there was the fourth film and the AVP film and my interest had waned. Now, with my interest somewhat rekindled I bought the extended editions of the first two films, and the book Alien: River of Pain, as all three of these stories mesh so perfectly they are so brilliantly weaved together. Having watched and read them (for the first time in this millennium) I get the feeling that TPTB made a wrong turn in deciding what direction to take for Alien 3. I recall seeing the film in theaters and liking it at the time, but knowing that Newt and Hicks are killed off, off screen, makes me reluctant to continue on and get Alien 3 because I don't like where they took the story. It's alright as a reworked standalone, with some character other than Ripley getting killed off, but as the direct sequel to Aliens it doesn't work for me. Even if it's a little too late, TPTB need to rectify their earlier mistake, and make a proper sequel to Aliens.
This is absolutely brilliant thank you
You should probably really give a reference to the book “River of pain”because it gives a backstory what happened before and Aliens. There is so much action and you better understand the characters especially Newt
Thats what he is summarizing here. No idea if the Fire and Stone series connects in. Its not really contradicted by the novel but the book doesn't make it reasonably likely either. On the upside it means Aliens in a universe without Prometheus or Covenant which I am totally good with.
Hey Alien Theory! Happy 35th anniversary Aliens!
When I was a young kid, I always wondered what happened at Hadleys Hope. Now I do thank you. Would have been a good as a film
I always wanted to see the demise of Hadley Hope see what Newt seen b4 Ripley caught up with her. Love the channel this is close enough!!! You do awesome work!!!
They could of made a movie out of this. It would of definitely been class
Could have yeah
"Look Into My Eye!"
Great Job with the short documentary! 👏
Love the spooky audio effect @5:00 . well done as always!!
This was so well done, so intense! I was tensed up the entire time, and I knew the story!
Dates have to be off. The date Newt's brother and mother die are the 26th and the Mariens arrive the next day. If the Sulaco would have only taken a few days to get there, they wouldn't need to use hypersleep like they did in the movie. I believe in the directors cut, after the operations center is attacked and newt is the only survivor, the Sulco is show approaching with the text "Three weeks later". Either way, it's interesting to hear a detailed timeline
After the marines are attacked, Hicks also states that they won't be reported overdue for 17 days before help is sent out. Ripley reminds him that Newt survived longer than that with no weapons. It took over a day for Newts family to get to the alien ship and the father had the face hugger attached on June 21st. The rescue team arrived on the 22nd and he was brought back on the 23rd and had the alien burst out later that day. The other team went out to the ship on the 22nd, which means they shouldn't have made it back until the 24th. Yet they are all back and have aliens bursting out of them by the 23rd. The timelines don't make sense. It also would have taken time for the Queen to be laying the eggs and have them develop with grown face-huggers inside, so the aliens wouldn't have grown in number as quickly as they did in this scenario.
Also, don't forget that newt was reported to have "borderline malnutrition...but no permanent damage." So it makes sense that newt was on her own for longer than 24 hours when she was found by the Marines and Ripley.
According to this, It did take roughly a month. Newts family die on June 26th and she escapes, Ripley and the rest arrived JULY 27th.
A bad day fishing beats a good day working. And a day with an Alien Theory upload beats em both.
Honestly I am loving this channel. You are telling us stories that hasn’t even been shown. I legit didn’t know that there were novels of alien and even then, you have info no one knows. And I love it!
Either a series or a film should be made regarding the events that unfolded, looking at facial CGI they could use actors to play some of those at Hadley's hope.
Absolutely brilliant! keep up the great work!
How have they not made this yet? This would be epic!
@alientheory That was great man! Do you realize that you sound like someone from the movie! I can listen to you talk about the alien franchise all day! Keep up the good work and I'll be tuning In!
I thought I read somewhere that the Marine response took two weeks after the distress signal was sent. In the movie they also stated they lost contact with the colony, so that would take a significant amount of time to send a signal through space and wait for the same amount of time for a response before dictating they have lost contact.
River of pain is the best novel in the Aliens world so far. Must read for every fan. Also, the Audible drama version is excellent
a small discrepancy, in the movie the colony looks like a solid structure but according to this and the image at 1:24 it was built from dismantled cargo ship sections .
15:49 Nice touch.
Kudos for the use of the word "mostly"!